Nice! Any chance we'll see a black option?
Nice! Any chance we'll see a black option?
SORRY, DIDN'T READ CAREFULLY. im dumb lol
The gold color does not look very gold on my screen, more like beige. Is it my screen or is it the color itself?
The gold color does not look very gold on my screen, more like beige. Is it my screen or is it the color itself?
It looks pretty gold to me.
Hi, I know it is a little stupid but i really wanna know how to put the plate into the keyboard? does it stay between switch base and pcb plate? do i need to resolder all the switches?
How tall is the edge of the case? Tall enough so there's no visible gap between top of the edge and bottom of the keycaps?this enought to no visible :D Tall edge inside is 16mm.
Hi, I know it is a little stupid but i really wanna know how to put the plate into the keyboard? does it stay between switch base and pcb plate? do i need to resolder all the switches?
Yes to fix the plate you'll need to solder out the switches first.
To add to his question, does the plate allow spring/stem swapping ?
Thanks
Great looking case, fantastic job!
Quick questions, I'm currently using a Poker II, which comes already plated, will the case work just fine with the current plate?
Or is the plate you designed specific/proprietary to that case?
Is the tilt angle adjustable? If not what is the angle?
Order placed :D
GLWS :thumb:
So will this work with the current WFD plates for the GH60? I don't see why it wouldn't but I figured I'd ask.
Paid! Looking forward to this!
EDIT: What sort of time frame are we looking at before the first batch is complete?
my 1st batch will start next week :D U can get in if pay soon :DPaid! Looking forward to this!
EDIT: What sort of time frame are we looking at before the first batch is complete?
I'll get time to complete CNC from manufactor soon :D after CNC, we need 7-10days to finish anodizing. More one week for hanlding and shipping :D
Will there be a 2nd batch? I want this but it would be ideal to order it in January.
CNC time :DShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ND8PDbO.jpg)
*I'll do my 87 case first :( because I need time to asssamble keyboard :D My 60% case will CNC next week :D
thx u
:D distance from my location to CNC factory about 90km :D but I'll talk them take it later
God all this cool stuff for The poker 2 but i'm so conflicted about getting a poker 2 or a HHKB.
Just got my poker 2, brown's with full led in iso layout and.... HOLY SH*T BATMAN!
I love this board. The quality is the same if not better than my filco tkl.
Just got my poker 2, brown's with full led in iso layout and.... HOLY SH*T BATMAN!
I love this board. The quality is the same if not better than my filco tkl.
Oh? Same! Except I got it in the ANSI layout. AND I JUST GOT IT TOO, LOL. :)
^^ It's hammer case :D not my sample. I creat only 1 sample in black on #1.Sounds good, I think I am going to be down for a sandblasted purple.
all sample color is sandblaster :D
I still take order during CNC time :3In the color selection it says GREY BL, what does the BL stand for?
In the color selection it says GREY BL, what does the BL stand for?
In the color selection it says GREY BL, what does the BL stand for?
I'm assuming 'blue'? I was hoping the grey would have been as dark as the colour sample pic http://i.imgur.com/qbg3tyE.jpg :/
In the color selection it says GREY BL, what does the BL stand for?
I'm assuming 'blue'? I was hoping the grey would have been as dark as the colour sample pic http://i.imgur.com/qbg3tyE.jpg :/
i really would like it to be grey and not a blue/grey colour. Is it the same grey you see in this picture?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PayACNV.jpg)
that grey would look good in a brushed look.
U can see sample here: http://imgur.com/a/jSUSc.
U can see sample here: http://imgur.com/a/jSUSc.
Will you sell stabs with the anodized metal in the last picture?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2jaOIMu.jpg)
U can see sample here: http://imgur.com/a/jSUSc.
Will you sell stabs with the anodized metal in the last picture?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/2jaOIMu.jpg)
Stabilizer groupbuy next?
These look really good. When will the second run happen?
How is everything going alixinhzai?
Hey I think I just received an invoice for this, but it was kind of out of the blue, and it's due tomorrow. Unfortunately my rent is due in two days and I won't be able to pay it for about two weeks.
I was waiting on new color samples before I finalized my colors. Were ten ordered? Are these going in to production now? I'd like a little information and maybe a heads up before I shell out $200 USD; sorry in advance if this is an issue.
These look really good. When will the second run happen?
These look really good. When will the second run happen?
I still taker order. If u like this case, fill a form in #1 post.
To all: this time still in CNC time. But u know, now have many holiday :(
@alixinhzai:
sorry, but my invoice will not be paid today. if you could bill me for Jan 12th I can have it paid by then.
edit: also, are these moving to production now? I would like to know why I was billed suddenly.
Anyone know if these plates allow for switch removal without desoldering?
Okay thanks. I would think this would still be compatibe with the alu plates that sprit is selling in his GB? I know ali said any 60% plate should do but I just wanted to confirm.
Thanks again :D
Hi alixinhzai, can I ask where we're at with the cnc? And an estimate when the cnc for the first batch will be finished? And if everything goes as planned an estimate when the postage will start.
Kind regards
Redeye
Can we please get an update with time frames on when these will be finished and shipped? Sent you a PM as well.
he's been busy with his new born baby so give the man some time, people ;D
It takes just a couple of minutes to give us an update and he's been online many times since we've asked.
It takes just a couple of minutes to give us an update and he's been online many times since we've asked.
I guess there might still be delays with the manufacturing process since it's the beginning of a new year and sounds like he has a lot on his plate with personal life stuff. But I get where you're coming from as well. Providing short updates every now and then seems like a better approach than ignoring one's own thread.
I'll update when CNC complete. This is my fault, I still open order :( and somebody still order :( Now I close order to finish some case order recent.
I'll update when CNC complete. This is my fault, I still open order :( and somebody still order :( Now I close order to finish some case order recent.
alixinhzai, I sent a few PMs regarding this.I'll update when CNC complete. This is my fault, I still open order :( and somebody still order :( Now I close order to finish some case order recent.
I don't know if my order was already included in the batch that's with the manufacturer. If not could you please check your PMs and let me know. Or if it's possible for someone else to take my spot in the list of orders.
Thanks.
What are those TKL?
all person I sent and paid invoice now are in 1st batch :D only few poker case more we'll compelet CNC.
They (manufacturer) said: next 7-10 days to finish :D
some photo I take from their company
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all person I sent and paid invoice now are in 1st batch :D only few poker case more we'll compelet CNC.
Is it possible for me to transfer ownership of the case and plate I ordered to someone else before this ships? Or would that be frowned upon? I received another keyboard as a gift over the holidays so I no longer have any use for these parts.
I sry, ur case already done :( U can change option surface and color and transfer to others, who want to buy this case :( still have 1 week before I sent all to anodizing.
I'm fine with either option. And yeah, I ordered a case (grey) and plate (blue).
alixinhzai, thoughts?
hey i never paid my invoice because I was waiting for the update on color samples.I sent my prototype to my friend :D He got DSLR and I think I'll get a better photo :D
I'm not sure if that happened but I still want this case.
If avtar has a case+plate I would love to force my colors on that and take it off his hands.
Please let me know about the pink/teal colors and avtars order and I'll probably chime in with some cash.
If they are the same as the original imgur pic of the wires I would like a pink case and teal plate.
I can either pay my invoice of 191.40 usd and we can cancel his payment, or I could work out a private payment and have the case shipped to me.
Both parties let me know!
Thanks.
I'm fine with either option. And yeah, I ordered a case (grey) and plate (blue).
alixinhzai, thoughts?
Yep, exactly :Dhey i never paid my invoice because I was waiting for the update on color samples.I sent my prototype to my friend :D He got DSLR and I think I'll get a better photo :D
I'm not sure if that happened but I still want this case.
If avtar has a case+plate I would love to force my colors on that and take it off his hands.
Please let me know about the pink/teal colors and avtars order and I'll probably chime in with some cash.
If they are the same as the original imgur pic of the wires I would like a pink case and teal plate.
I can either pay my invoice of 191.40 usd and we can cancel his payment, or I could work out a private payment and have the case shipped to me.
Both parties let me know!
Thanks.
Great :-* because I just got my miami keycaps today and think it would look better with teal case and pink plate.
So final offer! Teal case and pink plate please, and I'll just have to live with that decision. [I might just have to buy two, will you be doing a second run?]
Would it be easier for you to simply change the address on his order to mine, and have us work out the payment privately?
Or do you want me to pay my invoice and you can refund his?
Is there an even better solution I missed? Let me know so we can make this final.
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Better off sorting out money privately, no reason Ali should have to refund money.
Well I have an invoice in my paypal from him for the same thing. Should I just cancel that?
I'd really just like Alixinhzai to respond, so we can change the address and colors on the order and I can work out payment, private or not.
Yeah this terrifies me because of my payment options, doesn't look like I'll make it in time.Sounds great. What is my deadline for color changing?
Anodising has already started on the TKL cases so I'd make payment asap if you want a chance of making color changes.still have 1 week before I sent all to anodizing.
Hey taylordcraig, regarding payment options it's probably best if we do that between each other so not to add posts to this thread that won't be of interest to others participating in the groupbuy. Please check my PM.
Thanks.Sounds great. What is my deadline for color changing? I can pay echeque now but it won't be processed until the 27-29. Else I can get a hold of a credit card for faster payment.
Sounds great. What is my deadline for color changing? I can pay echeque now but it won't be processed until the 27-29. Else I can get a hold of a credit card for faster payment.
Sounds great. What is my deadline for color changing?
still have 1 week before I sent all to anodizing.
Will there be a second round of these?I think ali 'll continue run round 2 :)
Hi alixinhzai, how do the cases look? Sweet i bet.
Lunar new year in Vietnam, this is holiday.
Everybody don't work now, you can wait few day
I'm in lunar new year now :D I cant update until vacation end :(
I'll update asap when every company back to work
thx u
I'm in lunar new year now :D I cant update until vacation end :(
I'll update asap when every company back to work
thx u
I'm in lunar new year now :D I cant update until vacation end :(
I'll update asap when every company back to work
thx u
So lunar new year is over now, how long till these are finished?
I'm in lunar new year now :D I cant update until vacation end :(
I'll update asap when every company back to work
thx u
So lunar new year is over now, how long till these are finished?
Around a month lol :))
all person I sent and paid invoice now are in 1st batch :D only few poker case more we'll compelet CNC.
They (manufacturer) said: next 7-10 days to finish :D
some photo I take from their company
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@alixinhzai:
sorry, but my invoice will not be paid today. if you could bill me for Jan 12th I can have it paid by then.
edit: also, are these moving to production now? I would like to know why I was billed suddenly.
It's ok
I can take order during CNC time bro. But if CNC end, I cant add anymore. Because It will go next stage (surface processing).
thx
I'll update when CNC complete. This is my fault, I still open order :( and somebody still order :( Now I close order to finish some case order recent.
These look really good. When will the second run happen?
I still taker order. If u like this case, fill a form in #1 post.
To all: this time still in CNC time. But u know, now have many holiday :(
I try get photo soon :D u can change color now :v I still anodizing my 87 case first.
I'm in lunar new year now :D I cant update until vacation end :(
I'll update asap when every company back to work
thx u
It only seems that myself and bueller care for updates?
It only seems that myself and bueller care for updates?
I do care, but why should I post when you guys keep doing that every other day? Lots of "Any updates, Ali?" is not going to make this thread any more readable.
I'm in lunar new year now :D I cant update until vacation end :(
I'll update asap when every company back to work
thx u
It's nearly been a fortnight, what's going on?
It's nearly been a fortnight, what's going on?
I'm in the same situation as you because I ordered from Ali team 2 TKLs (one black and one green-teal). I believe at least 3 other Vietnamese customers are also in the same situation.
I just tried to contact Ali team in order to have some updates, here are what I received:
- The skeleton of the cases were finished but they still need to have some optimizations in order to be released as the final products.
- The products were not finished yet because the manufacturers in Vietnam did not really get back to work after a long Lunar New Year break, especially the hard anodizing manufacturers.
Usually, people in Vietnam really get back to work after the 15th Jan of Lunar moon (14/02/2014 Gregorian calendar). I know it's a bit awkward but I think we have no choice in this case.
I'm not sure why Ali did not update frequently to you but I think it's because Ali just had a newborn son so he is quite a bit busy than usual, maybe he just logged in to check the message?
In short, there are still some minor production issues and delays. However, Ali team is working hard to fix. So don't worry too much except we need to wait a bit longer than our expectation.
That's all what I know so I don't mind sharing to you.
Hope it can help. ;D
Ali. Give us an ETA please, this is totally unacceptable to just up and disappear for weeks on end with no updates.
Ali. Give us an ETA please, this is totally unacceptable to just up and disappear for weeks on end with no updates.
Am I the only one that's completely run out of patience? I would possibly be a little bit more understanding if you actually provided us with information but considering you've just left us hanging I'm well past that point now. Give us a damned update already, I don't even give a **** if you tell us they're going to take another month. I just want to know when I'm getting the goods I paid for over 2 MONTHS AGO.
As of today I've sent you 7-8 emails (none of which you've replied to) and countless PM's which got the same treatment. And you're online almost every day. Total bull****.
Yeah I'm cheesed about this. Its tough, because what other options do we have but to wait.
Canada
Yeah I'm cheesed about this. Its tough, because what other options do we have but to wait.QuoteCanada
Considering the money we amount of money I put down on one, I would like an update. But, considering how long it I've seen keycaps, cases, and other products that new guys and the veterans have made and how long it's taken to get the product put out on a successful GB, then collect the money, then get the product paid for and manufactured, then packaged and shipped;I think we can say it takes a good amount of time.
Sure, we can sit here and post a bump page or get irate on a message board about how long it's taking, but all you do is look childish. Instead, why don't we take a look at some of Alixinhzai's past posts and works?
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40468.msg802930#msg802930 (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40468.msg802930#msg802930)
Here is a completed groupbuy from him in Feb. of 2013. He ran open orders until mid April, and orders were seen arrived early June. Others got theirs as late as mid July. But, for a groupbuy that ran for 4 months with around 30ish orders that was processed, manufactured, and shipped by a single man overseas, I think he got the job done and did a damn good job of it too.
So why am I bring this all up? Because maybe you guys need to think how much work and effort goes into a single person to make a damn dozen keyboard cases (with or without plates) and think of how long it would take you to do it by your damn self. Chill people.
My case is not that terrible about this seller being MIA.
I approached him just before Lunar New Year and he replied me quite fast. Basically, I'm organising a keychain GB for the Spaniard folks plus a custom keycap (we made an IC and we get interest for around 120-130 keychains)
He told me he could provide me those keychains, after that, I have been waiting him to reply my PMs for almost 1 month now.
I have not collected money yet, but I fear that not having the keychains it is going to kill the GB. Even if he shows up again, it's going to be difficult for me to not worry thinking that he can be MIA again, but this time with some money that it is not mine at all. Our problem now is finding a cheap source of Cherry MX keychains to keep our GB alive (any suggestion is more than welcome!)
Sorry for the OT :$, I hope your situation will be happily solved at some point.
Ali. Give us an ETA please, this is totally unacceptable to just up and disappear for weeks on end with no updates.
That's what happens when you deal with 'No-names" here on Geekhack. The no-name description goes to anyone running a Group Buy for the FIRST time hence they have no GH experience and no credibility amongst anyone here.
I got scalped by trusting those sorts of 'no-names' here and got butt-raped (wallet-speak) but you learn from your experience here. NEVER ever trust 'no-names unless they've already done successful Group Buys in this section and everyone has dealt with them. In the future Bueller when something sounds too good, it's usually is and you will only lose your moolah in that belief.
That is why you trust the status quo, like BunnyLake, Raccoon, Matt3o, Feng, Qtan, IvanIvanovich, jil_jil32, i3oilermaker, MOZ, imsto, mkawa, jdcarpe and Pexon. These I have dealt with in the past and were all 100% honest and decent about their Group Buys. Anyone else I didn't mention is simply because I've never dealt with you just yet but be aware newly arrived individuals need time to establish themselves.
I'm not saying all noobies are not to be trusted, just be aware of the items they're promising to deliver and whether or not you could afford to lose your money with that stranger.
Ali. Give us an ETA please, this is totally unacceptable to just up and disappear for weeks on end with no updates.
That's what happens when you deal with 'No-names" here on Geekhack. The no-name description goes to anyone running a Group Buy for the FIRST time hence they have no GH experience and no credibility amongst anyone here.
I got scalped by trusting those sorts of 'no-names' here and got butt-raped (wallet-speak) but you learn from your experience here. NEVER ever trust 'no-names unless they've already done successful Group Buys in this section and everyone has dealt with them. In the future Bueller when something sounds too good, it's usually is and you will only lose your moolah in that belief.
That is why you trust the status quo, like BunnyLake, Raccoon, Matt3o, Feng, Qtan, IvanIvanovich, jil_jil32, i3oilermaker, MOZ, imsto, mkawa, jdcarpe and Pexon. These I have dealt with in the past and were all 100% honest and decent about their Group Buys. Anyone else I didn't mention is simply because I've never dealt with you just yet but be aware newly arrived individuals need time to establish themselves.
I'm not saying all noobies are not to be trusted, just be aware of the items they're promising to deliver and whether or not you could afford to lose your money with that stranger.
FWIW - I've bought from him during his fairly large acrylic case sale in the classifieds with no hassle. Judging by how big the thread was, I wouldn't doubt theres a large number of people who would buy from him again.
my 1st batch will start next week :D U can get in if pay soon :DPaid! Looking forward to this!
EDIT: What sort of time frame are we looking at before the first batch is complete?
I'll get time to complete CNC from manufactor soon :D after CNC, we need 7-10days to finish anodizing. More one week for hanlding and shipping :D
whats up Alixinhzai? it has been nearly 4 months past :'( :'( never had this such delay with my previous gb :eek: :eek:
I must admit I have feared for my money over this time.
After the 45 day paypal windows I stopped following this thread and am just hoping.
Good luck team.
and sending updates to some members via PMs. It's a weird way of conducting a group buy.
Still no replies to my request to change address. Has anyone been PM'ed recently?
Coming up on 19 weeks now.Last active April 11th, just give an update...
sigh...some ppl who join FMJ's 2nd GB already got their case in china,and this one seems like never :(
I wish I could get my money back. I've watched other cases and plates get manufactured and ship before this.
I don't get the deal with this guy. He was active today too! :oI wish I could get my money back. I've watched other cases and plates get manufactured and ship before this.
You and me both. I'm done, I don't believe for a second that were going to get our cases after such a long delay and no communication.
**** you alixinhzai, you scamming bastard.
I wish I could get my money back. I've watched other cases and plates get manufactured and ship before this.
You and me both. I'm done, I don't believe for a second that were going to get our cases after such a long delay and no communication.
Like what bueller was saying I did get a couple of unofficial pm updates from "friends"/associates of alix and the last one (sent in the middle of march), stated that black cases would be ready "next" week (my case happened to be black).
Ok... So next week rolled on and the week after... Still nothing... So at the end of March I contacted my credit card company and they opened a dispute with paypal for goods not received. He did not respond to the dispute and now the case is closed.
So to be honest I think he has no intention of sending the cases. If he was honest he should have made contact with paypal to explain the situation and give assurances that the product would be shipped even if it would be in the distant future, but he did not.
Like what bueller was saying I did get a couple of unofficial pm updates from "friends"/associates of alix and the last one (sent in the middle of march), stated that black cases would be ready "next" week (my case happened to be black).
Ok... So next week rolled on and the week after... Still nothing... So at the end of March I contacted my credit card company and they opened a dispute with paypal for goods not received. He did not respond to the dispute and now the case is closed.
So to be honest I think he has no intention of sending the cases. If he was honest he should have made contact with paypal to explain the situation and give assurances that the product would be shipped even if it would be in the distant future, but he did not.
Good luck with it bud, If you need any info just pm me
Cheers for the info mate, I might have to see if my credit card company will do the same.
Like what bueller was saying I did get a couple of unofficial pm updates from "friends"/associates of alix and the last one (sent in the middle of march), stated that black cases would be ready "next" week (my case happened to be black).
Ok... So next week rolled on and the week after... Still nothing... So at the end of March I contacted my credit card company and they opened a dispute with paypal for goods not received. He did not respond to the dispute and now the case is closed.
So to be honest I think he has no intention of sending the cases. If he was honest he should have made contact with paypal to explain the situation and give assurances that the product would be shipped even if it would be in the distant future, but he did not.
Cheers for the info mate, I might have to see if my credit card company will do the same.
FYI, you guys are not alone. I have invested ~550$ into this group buy but until now I also did not receive anything even I live in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam. From what I received via Facebook message, by the end of this week, Ali team will have the delivery. I'm not 100% sure about that but all I can do now is to hope for the best.
FYI, you guys are not alone. I have invested ~550$ into this group buy but until now I also did not receive anything even I live in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam. From what I received via Facebook message, by the end of this week, Ali team will have the delivery. I'm not 100% sure about that but all I can do now is to hope for the best.
Then why isn't he saying this. Utter complete BS. I don't believe anything anymore with this GB.
Does this quality as being in the artisan area?What would happen to it though, when he is clearly not even trying to conduct an honest business? Why not just ban him?
If he's banned, then there's no hope for case/money. At this point, I just want a money return. I wish there was some way for the moderators to help us out. I know that this is a buyer beware area, but this just sucks, that's all.If I see a guy with my money who logged on everyday, (and since his English is his second language) knows enough English to make replies and give updates, and he doesn't, I don't expect anything back. Whatever happened, clearly he's not interested and doesn't respect the community enough to make us be aware of it. Sucks, but I think your money is long gone.
Sucks, but I think your money is long gone.
Prove me wrong Alixinhzai. I dare you.
Sucks, but I think your money is long gone.
Prove me wrong Alixinhzai. I dare you.
This is pretty much where I'm at now, I don't really have any hope of getting my case any more but I'm happy to be proved wrong.
Sad so many buys have turned out bad lately.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58067.0
Look at this post :))
I think we're getting off topic. Refund or no refund for that other thing, it doesn't relate to the people in this group buy that just want their cases. Please don't bring other things into this, create hard feelings, and cause more of a delay. I'm hopeful that this can still be resolved. Please Please PLEASE, resolve this group buy.
I made a member of the community mechkey Vietnam.
Today I writing this letter to denounce GB is really just a joke.
I not want to create this but in the last few days, alixinhzai and botay46 insulted Vietnam mechkey community,
especially they insulted Mr Pham Hoang Minh (pmh1410) after he asked alixinhzai and botay46 to delivery mechkey to GeekHack.
This an answer for their acts of evil:
Many Alixinhzai team members,
including the two main members alixinhzai and botay46,
they in Ha Noi, Vietnam.
As understand it, prior to the GB,
the production in a good factory,machinery made in Japan, good.
But after receiving the money,
botay46 and alixinhzai production of other,cheaper,bad,very bad.
So after running a GB done once the product has a lot of bugs (anodization bad, many scratches...),first delay.
Alixinhzai and Botay46 to find another one to replace
the factory after production but still full of bugs.
Currently this GB full of errors and
the product is being repaired,delay second.
This can be considered as acts of fraud (ashamed of Vietnamese).
In addition, I also know issues also need to confirm and check again :
* Motherboards Trik ?
* Origin of cherry mx + switch is used ?
I feel very ashamed of Vietnam who withheld
information from not telling the truth of the matter.
proved by action ali and botay46! focus on your work instead of insulting Mr pmh1410 too much >:D
I made a member of the community mechkey Vietnam.
Today I writing this letter to denounce GB is really just a joke.
I not want to create this but in the last few days, alixinhzai and botay46 insulted Vietnam mechkey community,
especially they insulted Mr Pham Hoang Minh (pmh1410) after he asked alixinhzai and botay46 to delivery mechkey to GeekHack.
This an answer for their acts of evil:
Many Alixinhzai team members,
including the two main members alixinhzai and botay46,
they in Ha Noi, Vietnam.
As understand it, prior to the GB,
the production in a good factory,machinery made in Japan, good.
But after receiving the money,
botay46 and alixinhzai production of other,cheaper,bad,very bad.
So after running a GB done once the product has a lot of bugs (anodization bad, many scratches...),first delay.
Alixinhzai and Botay46 to find another one to replace
the factory after production but still full of bugs.
Currently this GB full of errors and
the product is being repaired,delay second.
This can be considered as acts of fraud (ashamed of Vietnamese).
In addition, I also know issues also need to confirm and check again :
* Motherboards Trik ?
* Origin of cherry mx + switch is used ?
I feel very ashamed of Vietnam who withheld
information from not telling the truth of the matter.
proved by action ali and botay46! focus on your work instead of insulting Mr pmh1410 too much >:D
Thanks for the update mate. So I guess we're just waiting for more updates from Ali and botay?
i'm ignore this GB, not in team of this project. but i'm Vietnamese and members on GH. i just want to say one thing:CLGT? :-*
Don't make the Vietnamese members on GH shame anymore, Approve by action.
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Updated 14/05/2014
I just contacted Hiếu (Ali) and Tuấn Anh (Botay) via Facebook and ask them several question, here are what they responded
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Question: Where are our cases?
Answer: Picture taken
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Question: Is that all? Where are the rest? How many cases in production totally? How is their condition?
Answer: No, it is not all. The rest are in anodizing process. Totally, there 22 cases are in production, 16 Poker and 6 TKLS, 14 for GH and 8 for Vietnam community. There are 3 TKL cases (sanding) are failed because of manufacturing, so definitely they will be reproduced. The scratched TKL are in good condition.
Question: Where are the poker, I didn't see many Poker in the picture, where are they?
Answer: They are in anodizing process too. We only take some of them as you can see in the picture above.
Question: When will you ship to GH community? When will you ship to all Vietnamese customers? Please give me some estimation.
Answer: GH customers mostly ordered Poker, so we can ship to them by the next 2 weeks. Vietnamese customers need to wait for 2 weeks after that.
Question:Do you have any promise to your customers?
Answer: We will try our best to delivery the products as the sample product. That's for sure.
Question: Why don't you go to GH and update these for them? Why did you let them be furious?
Answer: We cannot control the manufacturer so we cannot make any promise about the delivery since then. The manufacturers are big OEM for giant customers like Panasonic, so they can only work on our products as part-time income projects. However now that we understand about the consequences of losing credibility so we feel very sorry about this delay. Actually, we don't know how to handle the damage control, so we can only keep quite until the issues resolved. This is the first GB that we join to the world, so we don't know exactly how to handle the accidence, how to respond to the customers in English when there is a problem.
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That's all I have.
Better than nothingYes, of course Pacifist, we use Vietnamese to communicate.
I assume that you translated this to english?
Cheers for the update, is there any chance whether you could confirm Ali has my updated address? I messaged him several times about it but never heard back.
Better than nothingYes, of course Pacifist, we use Vietnamese to communicate.
I assume that you translated this to english?
Better than nothingYes, of course Pacifist, we use Vietnamese to communicate.
I assume that you translated this to english?Cheers for the update, is there any chance whether you could confirm Ali has my updated address? I messaged him several times about it but never heard back.
Hi Bueller, yes, he confirmed that your new address was received.
Wow thats a relief - I ordered the same exact case so hopefully mine should be on it's way soon.
Heard anything new phoenix?
honestly im not surprised, his acrylic case group buy was horrible, there was no communication for MONTHS and when we did see them 1. they didn't all arrive at once, people got their acrylic cases in a trickle of like 6 months time i got mine in the middle of that time and it came in really crappy packaging, like wrapped in some food container 2. they were horrible quality, glue stained the acrylic and anything clear looked like crap, only solid colors ended up usable and many people just straight up sold theirs in the classifieds because they were so disapointed. When i saw this aluminium case i was surprised because it looked so high quality but i knew **** like this would happen, i just didn't want to be rude.
Update 29/05/2014: according to Botay and Ali, there are still many quality issues to be fixed and completed including but not limited to: TKL plates, cases, screws and anodizing. Therefore, everything must be delayed until next week, according to Botay via Facebook PM :confused:
honestly im not surprised, his acrylic case group buy was horrible, there was no communication for MONTHS and when we did see them 1. they didn't all arrive at once, people got their acrylic cases in a trickle of like 6 months time i got mine in the middle of that time and it came in really crappy packaging, like wrapped in some food container 2. they were horrible quality, glue stained the acrylic and anything clear looked like crap, only solid colors ended up usable and many people just straight up sold theirs in the classifieds because they were so disapointed. When i saw this aluminium case i was surprised because it looked so high quality but i knew **** like this would happen, i just didn't want to be rude.
Just because your clear case came out looking like crap doesn't mean everyone's did. My clear case was fine. Regardless of the lack of communication, eventually, we got what we ordered.
Received mine yesterday.
I do have to say ordering a clear top / bottom was a horrible idea. The glue was applied very poorly, as others have stated, which ruins the entire look of the case.
Will be forced to modify it since the glue has essentially rendered it useless.
Heard anything new phoenix?
Guess I'll beat the dead horse :mad:. updates???
Alright who's up for getting together and emailing PayPal to let them know about this obvious fraud? I want my case or I want his account locked.
Alright who's up for getting together and emailing PayPal to let them know about this obvious fraud? I want my case or I want his account locked.
I can tell you from my experience with reporting DrugER/JackASS to PayPal over the whole DSA Dolch debacle, that if you're outside the 45-day window, or if you paid as gift, they don't give a rat's ass. They will send you a form letter and consider the matter closed.
It's just like what we gave Botay (aka. Botay46 - Quan Tuan Anh) and Ali (Hieu) are useless. After yet another 45 days, we did not receive anything from them ... Obviously, this GB became something completely ridiculous and a lot of people did not get what they paid for. I'm not sure what they are doing recently but nothing was updated so far ... It's pointless to have more hope on this GB ...
update 27/06/2014
I asked Ali to ship the PCB and stabilizers to me because I have reasonable doubt on the case and the plate. So today, I received 2 PCB and 2 sets of stabilizers. It seems they are in good condition. Here they are :Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/sPlkzV8.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/k0L9hQD.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5zOsL34.jpg)
I need to pay a separated shipment from Ha Noi to Sai Gon but at least I can receive partially the order from Ali (~30% of my order value : 150/500 USD).
As Ali confirmed, Ali only kept mostly the pcb, stabilizers, switches ... Botay (aka botay46, Quan Tuan Anh) is responsible mainly for the case, plate and screws. However, until now, nobody has any up-to-date information about them from Botay. I don't know exactly the internal business between them but it is exactly what I get so far. Indeed, Ali is the one who receives the payment from GH community so he will be responsible for this mainly even behind the scenes Botay aka Botay46 might be the mastermind of production. I think anyone wants to contact directly Botay should use his Facebook.
Glad you got something out of Ali, as I suspected he hasn't responded to the message I sent him on Facebook a few days ago. I'm guessing he's a little bit more concerned with sorting you out because you're actually in Vietnam.
Sucks, this case was for my GH60 which has been finished for ages and now I'm too broke to buy another.
Glad you got something out of Ali, as I suspected he hasn't responded to the message I sent him on Facebook a few days ago. I'm guessing he's a little bit more concerned with sorting you out because you're actually in Vietnam.
Sucks, this case was for my GH60 which has been finished for ages and now I'm too broke to buy another.
No, I don't think so. Until now, I did not receive any case. I just received the PCB and the stabilizers. The guy, who kept the cases, Botay46 is just like hiding from the issue. He kept promising endlessly from one day to another day :confused:.
Definitely, I will not be happy if I receive the case while GH community receives nothing. If I receive them now, it's just like I'm a dumb ass who kept shouting to the empty world that "Hey! I got the case" while nobody is there. At the extreme level, I will even refuse to receive the case if nobody has it because I don't want to be treated as a separated group. It would be a shame for me if I have the case while the rest are suffering from losing money. Therefore, I even sent PM to Botay46 and told him to take care GH order first, he can put my cases at the end of list, I don't care actually
$150 down the drain :(
Even more infuriating considering the photo they sent us which clearly shows finished cases. Like bueller's black case in the middle and the silver cases - like I ordered - in the background. Just send those damn cases out. Nobody cares anymore whether the finish is perfect or not.
We just want our cases that we paid half a year ago.
Well, I'm pissed like hell too, but I think that might be going a bit too far. I still somewhere deep inside believe that they're not trying to scam us, but ****ed something up and just don't have the balls to admit it.
I could handle a **** up. But they can't just ignore the problem and hope it goes away, I'm sure if they had any intention of ever delivering they'd get on here and respond to one of the million questions that have been asked of them. I know phoenix has been having some luck with them but I honestly think they're just trying to placate him because he's in Vietnam and could actually be a threat to them.
I can't be the only one thinking that someone should sign up to that vietnamese forum and call Botay out in that thread?
@phoenix: Did anyone from the vietnamese community receive their cases? I don't speak a single word of vietnamese and I can't be bothered to use google translate on all 11 pages of that thread. But it would be really interesting to know if and which cases they received. Because if they received cases that are exactly the same as those that we here ordered, the whole "production defects" thing is a huge pile of steaming cow feces.
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I'm probably beating a dead horse here, but has anyone heard any updates? phoenix1234?
Update:
Today, Mr Garoti (Mr Liem), the one who also participated in this GB, paid a serious visit to Botay house to see what is going on here. Here is the results that Mr Garoti took from the scene :
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Botay confirmed that there are only 4 missing cases from those pictures. They are produced and on the way from the factory to his house.
I really appreciate what Mr Garoti did to help us on updating this. :thumb:
Edit: Mr Garoti even carefully took the picture with the date included.
Update:
Today, Mr Garoti (Mr Liem), the one who also participated in this GB, paid a serious visit to Botay house to see what is going on here. Here is the results that Mr Garoti took from the scene :
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Botay confirmed that there are only 4 missing cases from those pictures. They are produced and on the way from the factory to his house.
I really appreciate what Mr Garoti did to help us on updating this. :thumb:
Edit: Mr Garoti even carefully took the picture with the date included.
2 weeks have passed, anyone know if those final few cases arrived with botay?
It's ridiculous that I'm still waiting on my case when it's been finished for months.
2 weeks have passed, anyone know if those final few cases arrived with botay?
It's ridiculous that I'm still waiting on my case when it's been finished for months.
Now that is another issue. No one receives the case yet as far as I know. From what I get via Mr Liem Garoti, Ali is responsible for the shipping because he is the one who received the payment from GH and had the address of GH members. However, until now he did not ship anything out yet. Mr Liem and Botay are working out with Ali to resolve all of this. In the worst case, perhaps Botay will ship with the given list of addresses from Ali.
That's what worries me, I really hope they confirm addresses before shipping anything considering its been like 9 months.2 weeks have passed, anyone know if those final few cases arrived with botay?
It's ridiculous that I'm still waiting on my case when it's been finished for months.
Now that is another issue. No one receives the case yet as far as I know. From what I get via Mr Liem Garoti, Ali is responsible for the shipping because he is the one who received the payment from GH and had the address of GH members. However, until now he did not ship anything out yet. Mr Liem and Botay are working out with Ali to resolve all of this. In the worst case, perhaps Botay will ship with the given list of addresses from Ali.
welldone Phoenix, I believe few people have their circumstance changed. I pm Ali to change my shipping address but so far no reply from him :(. please let the person in charge delivery to aware about this.
I'm having a really strange issue.
I just found my invoice which I apparently never paid.
However I did make a payment of $200 usd for this case to an NO PERSONAL INFO.
I honestly can't remember this happening, I thought I paid the invoice.
Was that $200 usd for something else?
Does anyone know this email?
I'm having a really strange issue.
I just found my invoice which I apparently never paid.
However I did make a payment of $200 usd for this case to an NO PERSONAL INFO.
I honestly can't remember this happening, I thought I paid the invoice.
Was that $200 usd for something else?
Does anyone know this email?
http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=94890
http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=33047
Google too hard.
I'm sorry you cant remember who you sent $200 to? You would think someone would remember posting multiple times and pming back and forth to buy out someone's GB order.I'm having a really strange issue.
I just found my invoice which I apparently never paid.
However I did make a payment of $200 usd for this case to an NO PERSONAL INFO.
I honestly can't remember this happening, I thought I paid the invoice.
Was that $200 usd for something else?
Does anyone know this email?
http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=94890
http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=33047
Google too hard.
I actually googled the email address and geekhack and variants to no avail.
I had to run to a family breakfast and didn't have time to further investigate.
I thought a kind geekhacker might have the answer.
An unkind geekhacker found it for me.
Thanks jerk.
just got back.
MoreI'm sorry you cant remember who you sent $200 to? You would think someone would remember posting multiple times and pming back and forth to buy out someone's GB order.I'm having a really strange issue.
I just found my invoice which I apparently never paid.
However I did make a payment of $200 usd for this case to an NO PERSONAL INFO.
I honestly can't remember this happening, I thought I paid the invoice.
Was that $200 usd for something else?
Does anyone know this email?
http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=94890
http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=33047
Google too hard.
I actually googled the email address and geekhack and variants to no avail.
I had to run to a family breakfast and didn't have time to further investigate.
I thought a kind geekhacker might have the answer.
An unkind geekhacker found it for me.
Thanks jerk.
just got back.
1) Don't post personal information of any kind.
2) Let's settle down here, make up, and be friends. :-*
3) I recommend putting a note in the paypal transfer to remind yourself why you sent someone money - it comes in quite handy at times like this. :)
1) Don't post personal information of any kind.
2) Let's settle down here, make up, and be friends. :-*
3) I recommend putting a note in the paypal transfer to remind yourself why you sent someone money - it comes in quite handy at times like this. :)
Sheesh, this Canadian! Amirite??
So whats going on now. I pm someone to get my cases? Is that how this is rolling now?
Would be awesome if botay46 could at least send a confirmation that he received the address.
But then again, communication has been pretty much nonexistent in this group buy already, so why do I actually expect anything else?
Update:Far out it never ends with these guys.
Totally this group buy is a mess after mess :confused: They never kept things that they promised on schedule. They kept giving excuses for the delay.
Botay confirmed that he received the list from Ali since Friday last week. However, nothing is shipped due to the given reason "internal issue between Botay and Ali". My cases and GH cases are still waiting somewhere. Some cases that are required assembly services are still in pending condition. Ali did not start to assemble those cases yet. I'm seeking for the answer from them what exactly is the "internal issue" ...
Hell has frozen over.
Can confirm I have tracking for my case.
Probably shipped the cases to himself.I don't think so. It would be a big mistake to do so in Vietnam because anyone can contact the post office to locate their parcels. The post office which is the State company will give they all information related to those packages.
Yeah I have mine too. However the tracking looks like its destination is within Vietnam.
Probably shipped the cases to himself.I don't think so. It would be a big mistake to do so in Vietnam because anyone can contact the post office to locate their parcels. The post office which is the State company will give they all information related to those packages.
It is a sad news for me. Botay promised me he will ship my case 3 weeks ago. I'm pretty glad to wait his action but the result is I'm even not on that list.Be patient man, I know it's been a long wait but I have faith that botay will get it sorted.
It is a sad news for me. Botay promised me he will ship my case 3 weeks ago. I'm pretty glad to wait his action but the result is I'm even not on that list.Be patient man, I know it's been a long wait but I have faith that botay will get it sorted.
Remember that this isn't even his GB, he's cleaning up after ali's mess.
Got my case/plate today.
Selling it at cost$160 + shipping[roughly $20 anywhere NA]
http://imgur.com/a/sefgC
To be fair with Ali and Botay, today I assemble the keyboard in order to have the overall look of the case.
Assembly steps:
- springs: I used a set of 68g gold spring from sprit GB and one 120g on the space bar
- switches: a mixture between Cherry MX Clear and Cherry MX Black (only used black for modifiers key with stabilizers)
- Lube type: Krytox for switches and stabilizers, Victorinox for springs
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The aluminium plate is quite light and soft but it is completely flat and there is no issue with inserting the switches
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- Soldering with Kester 63/37 and cleaning the flux residue with Alcohol 99% and assemble back to the case
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- Partially fix the scratches on the surface with 1000-grit sandpaper, it ends up with exposing the aluminium surface a little bit
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- Insert the 3M rubber feet.
- Put the PBT BSP Olivetti keycap set from Originative onto it
http://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets/products/bsp-classic-beige
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- Typing experiences : It's great, there is no bouncing issue with the Trik PCB after I upgraded to the latest firmware version. In fact, I'm typing this review on it. The keyboard is quite solid and heavy.
Although the keyboard has several post production mistakes but after all I can see that design is correct, there is no issue with stabilizer and switch position. It seems they only have the production, pre and post production issue as they said.
I hope after this GB, they can learn from their mistake, overcome those issues and come back with better quality control, design, production, service and especially the communication.
So, is there any word about them shipping out the other orders, or will it just be the vocal few that get theirs so this thing appears solved? I still have received nothing despite botay telling me "will ship to u next week" in a pm from August 21st.
My case was shipped but returned to sender for some stupid reason, haven't heard a peep since then. So annoying, it was actually in my town and now i'm back at the beginning.
Honestly is this guy really that big of a piece of ****? give them there money back! why on earth would you organize something that you can't handle? if the "plant" isn't making the product up to par or taking their sweet ass time complain until you get results. All these "family Problems" my Wife's mother died at 58 and she was back to work 3 weeks later. She took some time, and life when on. I don't understand, there is no excuse, unless you spent the money and are now just screwing everyone over.Some people just cannot handle stress and run away from their problems... It's not like he intended to rip people off (or so it seems) but that is exactly what he is doing. Super selfish and pathetic.
Honestly is this guy really that big of a piece of ****? give them there money back! why on earth would you organize something that you can't handle? if the "plant" isn't making the product up to par or taking their sweet ass time complain until you get results. All these "family Problems" my Wife's mother died at 58 and she was back to work 3 weeks later. She took some time, and life when on. I don't understand, there is no excuse, unless you spent the money and are now just screwing everyone over.Some people just cannot handle stress and run away from their problems... It's not like he intended to rip people off (or so it seems) but that is exactly what he is doing. Super selfish and pathetic.
Honestly is this guy really that big of a piece of ****? give them there money back! why on earth would you organize something that you can't handle? if the "plant" isn't making the product up to par or taking their sweet ass time complain until you get results. All these "family Problems" my Wife's mother died at 58 and she was back to work 3 weeks later. She took some time, and life when on. I don't understand, there is no excuse, unless you spent the money and are now just screwing everyone over.Some people just cannot handle stress and run away from their problems... It's not like he intended to rip people off (or so it seems) but that is exactly what he is doing. Super selfish and pathetic.
True...but if u cant handle the stress why even try something like this?
I think the zero communication is just as big of a problem. everyone is in the dark.
Well they've delivered on some of the cases. It's a mystery for the rest.
Hopefully Botay will reply to Phoenix.
If you could ask him about mine as well, that'd be grand. I ordered a silver sandblasted case which I'm pretty sure showed up in the very first photos of what they had received from the factory.
If you could ask him about mine as well, that'd be grand. I ordered a silver sandblasted case which I'm pretty sure showed up in the very first photos of what they had received from the factory.
Message sent. Let's see how he can deal with this.
@bueller: he answered to me that he did not come to the office yet. If you have a tracking number, please use this website and track if it arrives in Vietnam
http://www.vnpost.vn
Honestly I'm having a hard time figuring out what the hell these messages mean with the whacky translations.
http://www.vnpost.vn/TrackandTrace/tabid/130/n/RR110258392VN/t/0/s/1/Default.aspx
Yeah I sent it to botay weeks ago but it seems like he forgot about it.Quote from: bueller link=topic=51101.msg1543997#msg1543997
Honestly I'm having a hard time figuring out what the hell these messages mean with the whacky translations.
http://www.vnpost.vn/TrackandTrace/tabid/130/n/RR110258392VN/t/0/s/1/Default.aspx
I wish I could receive this tracking earlier to help you.
The package was returned to HANOI since 08/10/2014 However, they failed to deliver it . The latest message indicated:
14/10/201417:00:01100000 - Giao dịch Trung tâmChưa phát được. Bưu gửi lưu kư/Đă phát thành công giấy mời, chờ người nhận đến nhận/
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14/10/201417:00:01100000 - Central Post Office : Not yet delivered. Invitation letter sent, waiting for the person to pick up.
I just passed this tracking to Botay. Let's wait and see his answer.
Yeah I sent it to botay weeks ago but it seems like he forgot about it.
@Bueller:What a daft prick. Unbelievable.
I don't want to be the guy who brings the bad news but as far as I get from Botay, he was not able to get it back because he lost the Proof of Sender paper ...
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I'm speechless :-X
Its GB like this the scare the heck out of me. I will be joining the TX87 Kustom when it opens. I'd sure it will be fine, but damn this puts a sour taste in your mouth.
Dem feels :("you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free"
Useless bastards.
Dem feels :("you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free"
Useless bastards.
It seems, the cases similar to this group buy appear in one of the biggest gaming club in Ha Noi - Vietnam, the Pegasus Club (12 June at 11:00)
https://www.facebook.com/pegasus.club.hp/posts/1642189229350951
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What and Why is that? :-\
You decide ...
Dem feels :("you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free"
Useless bastards.
It seems, the cases similar to this group buy appear in one of the biggest gaming club in Ha Noi - Vietnam, the Pegasus Club (12 June at 11:00)
https://www.facebook.com/pegasus.club.hp/posts/1642189229350951
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What and Why is that? :-\
You decide ...
Sounds about ****ing right.
and where's my money? where's my keycap? :(
Doesn't look like the right case, but I wouldn't be surprised if some people got a free case or he got paid twice for the cases in Vietnam.
Doesn't look like the right case, but I wouldn't be surprised if some people got a free case or he got paid twice for the cases in Vietnam.
It should be this one with no change https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51021.0Show Image(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51101.0;attach=78272;image)
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* Pretty close, isn't it?
Hell yah it is.
But the most important factor is that one reliable guy in Ha Noi told me that these ones at Pegasus Club were done by botay46
https://www.facebook.com/pegasus.club.hp/posts/1642189229350951
I don't know that is the truth so you should judge it by yourself. Today, the world is flat, you can just send a message to this guy and ask him
https://www.facebook.com/pegasus.club.hp