Author Topic: [IC] Clicky Zealio with a twist (Read 45436 times)

Zeal · « **on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 01:20:03 »

Hey guys, me again.

Just wanted to gauge interest on how many people would be interested in a new clicky switch? It's not going to resemble anything close to what Cherry or Gateron has to offer. I'm planning to exhume the Aristotle stem from its grave and making some slight modifications to it to make it into a modern Zealio switch. From preliminary testing, the click is crisper, and the tactile position is higher than Cherry -- almost like Alps. The clicky sound is also louder than Cherry/Gateron Blues (without the high pitched plasticky sound) and gets even louder with a thick keycap ontop.

What makes the stem different is that the clicky slider runs on the INSIDE of the stem sliders, unlike Cherry/Kailh/Gateron/etc. This gives it a lot more of a tactile feel than current MX compatible clicky switches.

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Pic dump. Every pic in here is a macro shot, enlarge to your heart's content.

Slider within a slider. Sliderception?

Dat bump doe. Just imagine a way more tactile MX Blue!

Due to the Aristotle slider design, I had to level it with some business cards

. Here you can see the tactile bump is larger and higher than those of MX Blues.

MX Blue's click slider goes on the outside. Aristotles on the inside.

Sound comparison (that moment when you raise iso to 2000 for a vid

):

"Esc", "Q", "A" are Gateron Greens with blue springs
"1", "W", "S", "X" are Gateron Blues with clear tops
"2", "3", "4", "5", "E", "R", "T", "Y", "D", "F", "G", "H", "C", "V", "B", "N" are 65g Aristotle Zealios
"6", "7", "8", "9" are a quieter batch of MX Blues
"U", "I", "O", "P", "J", "K", "L", ";", "M", ",", ".", "/" are a clicky batch of MX Blues.

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If you're interested, I'd love to hear your comments!

exitfire401 · « **Reply #1 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 01:33:14 »

I'd be interested in a board's worth if for no other reason than to say I've tried them

Elrick · « **Reply #2 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 01:57:32 »

Definitely worth purchasing, when you have them available

.

Nice to see further development of the humble Cherry Switch, into something ........ better.

KnivesM · « **Reply #3 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 02:01:43 »

I'd buy a boards worth at least to try them.

Karura · « **Reply #4 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 02:02:46 »

I'm interested, had the pleasure of hearing these in person at Zeal's office, and I am impressed.

Zeal is a very cool guy that comes up with very interesting offerings for the community, and I'm glad we get along well.

nmur · « **Reply #5 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 02:05:37 »

Quote from: Zeal on Tue, 15 December 2015, 01:20:03

louder than Cherry/Gateron Blues

oh man

sounds very interesting and I love that you're thinking outside the square once more

a comparison photo with a regular stem might help too

KatzenKinder · « **Reply #6 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 02:14:46 »

I have an interest

Jokrik · « **Reply #7 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 02:33:09 »

holy ****

pleaseeee...........

rm-rf · « **Reply #8 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 02:46:14 »

I have also been experimenting with these!
I can confirm the sound is quite nice.
If you can get a better housing, and make keys fit more snug on these...
I am definitely in.
or ever better yet, make a few switch types with different frequencies on clicks,
IE: color A is high pitch and crisp, and color B has a more low and deep click sound.

as much as I enjoy a clicking keyboard, there are only so many options readily available on the market.
cherry for example there is only one sound for click switches.

maybe in the future, there is a small market for people who want their keyboard clicking to sound a specific way...
and once again i'm rambling on, i'l stop now.

Thumper_ · « **Reply #9 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 02:52:48 »

I would really love them because of the sound, but I can't stand switches with a bump :/
None the less, I might buy one for ESC ,'

LeandreN · « **Reply #10 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 03:08:26 »

Damn Zeal! I will definetily buy.

gadzkun · « **Reply #11 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 03:54:44 »

buy it for sure CLICKY hack yeah!!

Zorberema · « **Reply #12 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 04:12:58 »

Interested!

t8c · « **Reply #13 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 04:17:57 »

Quote from: rm-rf on Tue, 15 December 2015, 02:46:14

Or ever better yet, make a few switch types with different frequencies on clicks,
IE: color A is high pitch and crisp, and color B has a more low and deep click sound.

Excellent suggestion to a great initiative!

UTEster750 · « **Reply #14 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 04:55:17 »

Oooh these sound like they could be awesome!

Lepidus · « **Reply #15 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 04:56:25 »

hype incoming

jaffers · « **Reply #16 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 05:54:33 »

I'd like to try them. Maybe with very heavy spring

swimmingbird · « **Reply #17 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 05:59:29 »

Look interesting

Dernubenfrieken · « **Reply #18 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 06:11:08 »

Definitely interested, gotta catch em all right?

VinnyCordeiro · « **Reply #19 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 06:30:25 »

Count me in.

dgneo · « **Reply #20 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 06:34:55 »

IN for this!

raymogi · « **Reply #21 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 06:38:45 »

Yes please!

Latin00032 · « **Reply #22 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 06:41:23 »

I'd like the switch to be louder. I'd also like it to be more tactile than cherry.

The problem is many cherry/gateron/etc click switches feel clunky when using them at times.

qwack · « **Reply #23 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 06:43:22 »

I am still hoping that someone will make a "stock" Jailhouse Blue (so, no click, high tactile point) at some point but this one sure looks interesting!

SL89 · « **Reply #24 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 06:54:48 »

Would it be possible to allow for a version that comes close to Greens or Clicky Greys even?

olijuice · « **Reply #25 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 06:59:46 »

I would be interested in some.

nickheller · « **Reply #26 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 07:14:43 »

I was able to try this stem out in a zealio housing with a 65g spring, the switch felt and sounded great. I am very interested in these!

romevi · « **Reply #27 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 07:36:25 »

Ja, bitte.

E3E · « **Reply #28 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 08:09:34 »

And here I am scrounging for vintage MX whites to transfer into my linear zealios so I could have a translucent clicky switch. Is this proposed clicky variant also going to retain the translucent stem color, Zeal? I'm definitely down for these if so (I know, it sounds like such a trivial aspect--don't worry, I definitely don't EXPECT anything).

Either way, I'm diggin' the sound of this switch.

FLFisherman · « **Reply #29 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 08:11:09 »

I'm all in for some new clicks on the market.

zhihuichan · « **Reply #30 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 08:33:24 »

Sounds like white switch from Taipei

cryptokey · « **Reply #31 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 08:36:50 »

I am ready to further annoy my roommates

Hypersphere · « **Reply #32 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 08:56:08 »

Interested, especially if it is closer to Alps than to Cherry.

ideus · « **Reply #33 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 09:04:16 »

Interested:

Inject the stem sliders with a nice new plastic color.
Make the fit of stems and caps tighter.
Make the housing tighter.
Make the bottom more heat resistant even if they were not transparent.
Offer a selection of spring modules.
Keep the cost competitive.

Note: I have found that Gaterons, including Zealios, bottoms have smaller holes for the LEDs that do not allow dip sockets to pass through, could you fix that in this run?

KetchyKech · « **Reply #34 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 09:16:45 »

super duper interested! tactiles on tactiles

ccarlitos2 · « **Reply #35 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 10:18:37 »

This sounds interesting! I would love to get at least a boards worth. Especially if the casing is translucent like the original zealios.

apolotary · « **Reply #36 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 10:23:18 »

Count me in!

Speaking of the ALPS comparison, how clacky are they going to be? Because Matias clickly switches had so much clack that it went from enjoyable to plain annoying real quick.

Also curious if it's possible to reproduce that shallow clicky feel of a buckling spring keyboard

ImAWildDeer · « **Reply #37 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 10:46:58 »

I'd be down for at least a boards worth.

HoffmanMyster · « **Reply #38 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 11:43:34 »

Definitely interested. Clicky switches are in my regular rotation, so I'd love to see how these stack up.

theanyday · « **Reply #39 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:19:33 »

Loves me some clicky so I'd get a boards worth too.

Lurch · « **Reply #40 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:20:20 »

yes. I have one of these switches and they are delightfully clicky. I would love to try a full board of them

Steezus · « **Reply #41 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:24:24 »

I'm all about the tactility, you can count me in.

ika · « **Reply #42 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:26:04 »

It's intriguing. I'd be interested pending 1) comparison videos to, ideally, MX blue and some type of Alps switch (preferably Matias QC and click), and 2) some kind of info on how the switch actuates, and 3) price.

EDIT: found a typing vid of a Chicony 5191 and it sounds really interesting, count me in if they're not too expensive!

3K · « **Reply #43 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 12:59:24 »

Now the most important question: What color will the new stem be? I vote for pink. :3

ccc24 · « **Reply #44 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 13:02:59 »

haven't had a chance to put my purples on a board yet but i'm definitely interested in your version of the white/Aristotle switch. As far as i know mx white is both clicky and tactile correct?

Zeal · « **Reply #45 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 13:05:31 »

Hey guys, thanks for the interest thus far.

So far, the colour I have on mind is this:

I'm not sure what to call it though...Aqua Zealios? Celeste Zealios (sounds too long)?

Will be answering some of the above Qs

3K · « **Reply #46 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 13:08:03 »

Quote from: Zeal on Tue, 15 December 2015, 13:05:31

Hey guys, thanks for the interest thus far.

So far, the colour I have on mind is this:

Show Image

I'm not sure what to call it though...Aqua Zealios? Celeste Zealios (sounds too long)?

Will be answering some of the above Qs

Tealios.

E3E · « **Reply #47 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 13:09:16 »

Quote from: 3K on Tue, 15 December 2015, 13:08:03

Quote from: Zeal on Tue, 15 December 2015, 13:05:31
Hey guys, thanks for the interest thus far.

So far, the colour I have on mind is this:

Show Image

I'm not sure what to call it though...Aqua Zealios? Celeste Zealios (sounds too long)?

Will be answering some of the above Qs

Tealios.

THIS.

Tealios or Celestios. Gotta keep the eeo vibe. :P

ccarlitos2 · « **Reply #48 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 13:10:35 »

Quote from: 3K on Tue, 15 December 2015, 13:08:03

Quote from: Zeal on Tue, 15 December 2015, 13:05:31
Hey guys, thanks for the interest thus far.

So far, the colour I have on mind is this:

Show Image

I'm not sure what to call it though...Aqua Zealios? Celeste Zealios (sounds too long)?

Will be answering some of the above Qs

Tealios.

WINNER!!!

CPTBadAss · « **Reply #49 on:** Tue, 15 December 2015, 13:11:44 »

Quote from: Zeal on Tue, 15 December 2015, 13:05:31

Hey guys, thanks for the interest thus far.

So far, the colour I have on mind is this:

Show Image

I'm not sure what to call it though...Aqua Zealios? Celeste Zealios (sounds too long)?

Will be answering some of the above Qs

I'm interested in trying any new switches out. Count me in XD. Call it PMS1837.

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Author Topic: [IC] Clicky Zealio with a twist (Read 45436 times)