[IC] Key 65

[SUB01]

I think the key logo is much better. The chinese symbol isn't even that clean with lots of strokes, and it isn't even a very famous or well known symbol.

[Kasterborous]

100% in for this. Key logo is much cleaner than the old one. When is the estimated GB start date?

[bobdenard]

I don’t get the backlash regarding the new logo, looks clean in my opinion, much better than the old one. Nice job!

[SoraNoTenshi]

I'd definetly go for the Split Spacebar + Kanji Logo(鍵) FOR SURE!

Oh and welded Steel.
I am pretty sure most of the people here will like this board a lot!!!

[happycamper87]

I have mixed feelings about the new logo. Looks just like the X-Men logo. Would be nice if the kanji/chinese character could also be used for the top right corner and not just the weight. Would definitely be in for that.

[moonux]

To be honest, not a fan of the new logo. I know it's totally subjective, but for me, it doesn't convey a sense of sophistication or craftsmanship that I'd think the Fox brand would want to represent.

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[xef]

I think the new design is a big improvement and I will be in either way, but I get why people don't like this logo either.

I really like the suggestion of the kanji character on the blocker instead. But as someone else pointed out it has a lot of strokes and isn't that clean. If you were to move the character to the blocker, maybe a much simpler one could be used. I really like the ketsu kanji for "missing" or "lack of" and I think it's fitting for a blocker space.




Even the leaf from previous boards would look really nice too. Either way though I think it currently looks great as is and will be buying.

[Rob27shred]

I think the new design is a big improvement and I will be in either way, but I get why people don't like this logo either.

I really like the suggestion of the kanji character on the blocker instead. But as someone else pointed out it has a lot of strokes and isn't that clean. If you were to move the character to the blocker, maybe a much simpler one could be used. I really like the ketsu kanji for "missing" or "lack of" and I think it's fitting for a blocker space.

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Even the leaf from previous boards would look really nice too. Either way though I think it currently looks great as is and will be buying.

I think that would look infinitely better than the new Fox Lab logo on top of the case IMO. I mean the new logo isn't terrible (I personally don't like it, but respect the fact they do & want that to be their logo from now on), but I will always prefer branding that is done inconspicuously vs conspicuously.

[Dennyroxsox]

Guys - the new logo is amazing. I'm so excited for this GB.

[senter]

Glad the logo has changed. Much prefer the kanji character on both the kb top and on the weight.

How about plate and PCB ISO Support?

iso support?

PCB wise, ISO layout is supported. I don't plan to add ISO support on the plates.
I can share the plate file if someone needs.

[senter]

I prefer key logo on the back. Btw you said "A separate version without the top left logo will also be provided. A key will replace the Key. " Did u mean top right?

Sorry am new don't know how to do quote thing.

You're right. Thanks for catching the mistake. It's corrected now.

[vtachkov]

Will there be an all brass version like you had for a leaf 60?

[Incarnius26]

I like this new logo more than the NR but think that the Chinese character as the top right badge would be better. Maybe there could be a separate option for it?


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[vaughno]

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Really would have been sold if it just had something small like a number

[chakkii]

Glad the logo has changed. Much prefer the kanji character on both the kb top and on the weight.

How about plate and PCB ISO Support?

iso support?

PCB wise, ISO layout is supported. I don't plan to add ISO support on the plates.
I can share the plate file if someone needs.

So ISO supported on PCB and not for plates? What plates should I use then? any recommendations or compatibility list? or does "any" standard 65 plate will work?

[Zeldris23]

im in for this, also would there ba a chance for a hot swap PCB?

[Howser]

if your logo doesn't stick out next to road signs i think there is room for improvement;

[packleadercho]

I think I prefer the Chinese character over the key logo. I know people have noted that the multiple strokes make it look less streamlined but that's actually the main appeal for me. The numerous strokes makes the character more visually interesting imo.

The new key logo is nice no doubt but it's not really exciting to me since the key imagery is already being used by Keycult. Let me be clear: the logo design is certainly distinct enough from Keycult's and other keyboard companies are entitled to use key related logo. I'm fine with this being on the back of the board.

I'm only saying that I would've liked to see a logo that takes inspiration from anything else. I get that a key is a great candidate for a keyboard company's logo since it's a nod to the product and the image of a key is instantly recognizable; the f(x) reference is a nice touch too. With that said, it's like seeing an electronics company enter the market with an apple as its logo a year after Apple already got established. The design of this new company's apple logo would certainly be different enough from Apple's but consumers have already associated the image of an apple with the company who laid claim to it first.

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[Solotov]

Actually, your logo is pretty good. Can’t you just use it directly instead of the key design?

[SoraNoTenshi]

I think I prefer the Chinese character over the key logo. I know people have noted that the multiple strokes make it look less streamlined but that's actually the main appeal for me. The numerous strokes makes the character more visually interesting imo.

The new key logo is nice no doubt but it's not really exciting to me since the key imagery is already being used by Keycult. Let me be clear: the logo design is certainly distinct enough from Keycult's and other keyboard companies are entitled to use key related logo. I'm fine with this being on the back of the board.

I'm only saying that I would've liked to see a logo that takes inspiration from anything else. I get that a key is a great candidate for a keyboard company's logo since it's a nod to the product and the image of a key is instantly recognizable; the f(x) reference is a nice touch too. With that said, it's like seeing an electronics company enter the market with an apple as its logo a year after Apple already got established. The design of this new company's apple logo would certainly be different enough from Apple's but consumers have already associated the image of an apple with the company who laid claim to it first.

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I actually somewhat second this, i thought at first that this looks very similar to keycult - nonetheless i like the new logo, and would preferr the kanji, too!

[Vigrith]

Just stopping by once again state that the NR was actually a good logo.

[Zuology]

I am an OG Fox Labs owner, with an Orange TKL that I still hold dearly in my collection, though my tastes and preferences have changed.

I think the originality and simplicity of the synergy between the name and design language was the beauty in the Orange, Time, and Leaf. The name of the board was very clearly represented in the weight/accent design. Never was there a need to put the Fox name in logo or text on those.

The key logo puts the Fox name on the board where it doesn't need it, and previous boards didn't either. Other "brands" are too concerned with putting their name in a very obvious place and it makes the keyboard feel less premium, IMO. I have a lot of respect for senter/runninghack, but this direction is not in line with what I have come to expect from them.

Overall/In general, I like the F(x) logo. The fox-key logo looks unfinished and doesn't show much thought or design. The Kanji logo risks blending in with other designs that I've seen in the past, and comes off as a bit of an easy out.

Edit: Saw the plate cutouts logo version and actually much prefer this over the current key design. I shortened up the fangs on the F, and it doesn't look so disproportionate. Also, keeping it in this sideways orientation makes it less obvious and glaring that you are looking at a giant letter F. Also, the segments/cutouts are very reminiscent of the Orange and Leaf designs with negative space.

[Hokabuki]

Actually, your logo is pretty good. Can’t you just use it directly instead of the key design?

I much prefer this logo as well. It’s clean, small, and gets the FOX brand front and center.

[Sissy]

I am an OG Fox Labs owner, with an Orange TKL that I still hold dearly in my collection, though my tastes and preferences have changed.

I think the originality and simplicity of the synergy between the name and design language was the beauty in the Orange, Time, and Leaf. The name of the board was very clearly represented in the weight/accent design. Never was there a need to put the Fox name in logo or text on those.

The key logo puts the Fox name on the board where it doesn't need it, and previous boards didn't either. Other "brands" are too concerned with putting their name in a very obvious place and it makes the keyboard feel less premium, IMO. I have a lot of respect for senter/runninghack, but this direction is not in line with what I have come to expect from them.

Overall/In general, I like the F(x) logo. The fox-key logo looks unfinished and doesn't show much thought or design. The Kanji logo risks blending in with other designs that I've seen in the past, and comes off as a bit of an easy out.

Edit: Saw the plate cutouts logo version and actually much prefer this over the current key design. I shortened up the fangs on the F, and it doesn't look so disproportionate. Also, keeping it in this sideways orientation makes it less obvious and glaring that you are looking at a giant letter F. Also, the segments/cutouts are very reminiscent of the Orange and Leaf designs with negative space.

I like the edit you did and prefer it sideways ,it's doesn't look like a male gender symbol or Xman logo.

[beekey]

I am an OG Fox Labs owner, with an Orange TKL that I still hold dearly in my collection, though my tastes and preferences have changed.

I think the originality and simplicity of the synergy between the name and design language was the beauty in the Orange, Time, and Leaf. The name of the board was very clearly represented in the weight/accent design. Never was there a need to put the Fox name in logo or text on those.

The key logo puts the Fox name on the board where it doesn't need it, and previous boards didn't either. Other "brands" are too concerned with putting their name in a very obvious place and it makes the keyboard feel less premium, IMO. I have a lot of respect for senter/runninghack, but this direction is not in line with what I have come to expect from them.

Overall/In general, I like the F(x) logo. The fox-key logo looks unfinished and doesn't show much thought or design. The Kanji logo risks blending in with other designs that I've seen in the past, and comes off as a bit of an easy out.

Edit: Saw the plate cutouts logo version and actually much prefer this over the current key design. I shortened up the fangs on the F, and it doesn't look so disproportionate. Also, keeping it in this sideways orientation makes it less obvious and glaring that you are looking at a giant letter F. Also, the segments/cutouts are very reminiscent of the Orange and Leaf designs with negative space.

This flipped vertically, would make it again f(x) and keeps the key symbol.

[biothermal]

it's doesn't look like a male gender symbol or Xman logo.

+1

[ghstgrl]

I... actually don't like the new logo compared to the NR. I agree with some of the others that it looks like a male gender symbol/xmen symbol and flat out 'it doesn't stand out' stance. If this board isn't going to have a special theme like Clock, Orange, Leaf, I really think a nicer 'Key' or 'f(x)' symbol would be better. Or perhaps a stylized fox - the animal - logo? This current logo feels a lot like something one would whip up in Powerpoint using the shapes and text tools you have in Microsoft Office. imo compared with a lot of the other boards coming out the logo for this one is weak. I understand this isn't a super high end luxury board like Iron165 or the higher end Chimera 65 (the cannon logo is really awesome imo) or the 7V (whose design is nice but the layout is not what I'm looking for) but compared to previous Fox Labs works it's really underwhelming.

[R0N1N]

Is there going to be a green one?

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[cronohack]

I suggest bringing back the leaf logo or no logo at all.

[orim23]

I... actually don't like the new logo compared to the NR. I agree with some of the others that it looks like a male gender symbol/xmen symbol and flat out 'it doesn't stand out' stance. If this board isn't going to have a special theme like Clock, Orange, Leaf, I really think a nicer 'Key' or 'f(x)' symbol would be better. Or perhaps a stylized fox - the animal - logo? This current logo feels a lot like something one would whip up in Powerpoint using the shapes and text tools you have in Microsoft Office. imo compared with a lot of the other boards coming out the logo for this one is weak. I understand this isn't a super high end luxury board like Iron165 or the higher end Chimera 65 (the cannon logo is really awesome imo) or the 7V (whose design is nice but the layout is not what I'm looking for) but compared to previous Fox Labs works it's really underwhelming.

+1 this. I was hoping for an actual fox or a leaf.

[R0N1N]

Logo reminds me of keycult.

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[prototype26]

Nothing about the new logo is even remotely similar to Keycult's logo except for the fact that they are both a key.

This one is way worse though. I suggest picking leaf or fox logo instead.

[xantiema]

Just slap the resemblence of an animal on there - should fix it right up 

[mrpetrov]

Nothing about the new logo is even remotely similar to Keycult's logo except for the fact that they are both a key.

This one is way worse though. I suggest picking leaf or fox logo instead.

So they are nothing alike except they both look like the same thing (a key)...?! Umm...

Separately, I am not a huge fan of the new logo in any case (sorry!), but I actually don’t mind the one flipped on the side etc. the F(x) is better too, imho.

[Vigrith]

From hereon out, as the hobby grows to proportions unknown, it has been declared that no other brand or designer is to be able to design a logo that even remotely resembles a key because Keycult's logo is also a key.

Makes perfect sense.

[prototype26]

Nothing about the new logo is even remotely similar to Keycult's logo except for the fact that they are both a key.

This one is way worse though. I suggest picking leaf or fox logo instead.

So they are nothing alike except they both look like the same thing (a key)...?! Umm...

Separately, I am not a huge fan of the new logo in any case (sorry!), but I actually don’t mind the one flipped on the side etc. the F(x) is better too, imho.

They don't look like the same thing. I never said that but maybe I need to clarify. They are indeed the same object but design wise they are totally different.

[KingOfMemes]

Loving the Key Logo! I think it looks super clean

[steezkeez]

Key 65 brought to you by Comic Sans^TM

[otanishock]

I'm a die hard Keycult fan, but lol this looks nothing like Keycult's logo. Its cool if you don't like the design, but don't say its a copy/resemblance of Keycult's logo, because it is not...

[sevenseacat]

So much drama over the logo...

[Kingjunguhn]

Let's be honest most people in here are going to buy one even if it isn't the logo that they want

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[Vireca]

I like the Key lobo but its a but weird off centered. Forma the kanji/chinese logo, i dont like it. It dont mean anything forma me, just a random asian letters

[Kingjunguhn]

I like the Key lobo but its a but weird off centered. Forma the kanji/chinese logo, i dont like it. It dont mean anything forma me, just a random asian letters

Don't let the weebs catch you saying that they might go haywire lol

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[chakkii]

logo is absolutely fine imo, I rather waiting for reply for the ISO plate support. Because PCB does support ISO but no plate? what plate should I use then or ISO only plateless?

[Zuology]

logo is absolutely fine imo, I rather waiting for reply for the ISO plate support. Because PCB does support ISO but no plate? what plate should I use then or ISO only plateless?

Getting custom plates cut after the fact is not difficult at all, if the designer is willing to share plate files, or at least the stock dimensions.

[chakkii]

logo is absolutely fine imo, I rather waiting for reply for the ISO plate support. Because PCB does support ISO but no plate? what plate should I use then or ISO only plateless?

Getting custom plates cut after the fact is not difficult at all, if the designer is willing to share plate files, or at least the stock dimensions.

I honestly have no clue where I can get custom plates done So I rather have it directly from the "vendor" / designer. do you have any suggestions?

[Zuology]

logo is absolutely fine imo, I rather waiting for reply for the ISO plate support. Because PCB does support ISO but no plate? what plate should I use then or ISO only plateless?

Getting custom plates cut after the fact is not difficult at all, if the designer is willing to share plate files, or at least the stock dimensions.

I honestly have no clue where I can get custom plates done So I rather have it directly from the "vendor" / designer. do you have any suggestions?

There's a number of options available, depending on your budget and location in the world. Would advise creating another topic/post about this question, and fielding answers separately outside of this thread. Lasergist, Laserboost, Big Blue Saw, etc. I find that if enough people are interested in a custom plate, better to run a side group order to get quantities up for lower cost.

[loud_asian]

I like the Key lobo but its a but weird off centered. Forma the kanji/chinese logo, i dont like it. It dont mean anything forma me, just a random asian letters

I don't like your profile picture, it doesn't mean anything to me. It's just a random wolf.


Just because it holds no meaning to you does not mean that it has no value to the creator.

[KingOfMemes]

I like the Key lobo but its a but weird off centered. Forma the kanji/chinese logo, i dont like it. It dont mean anything forma me, just a random asian letters

I don't like your profile picture, it doesn't mean anything to me. It's just a random wolf.


Just because it holds no meaning to you does not mean that it has no value to the creator.

Username checks out

[!Q]

Would have genuinely loved it a lot if it was a nicely stylized f(x) but not a fan of the key logo :/

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