[IC]SP SA 128K (Color sample chips updated Fab.18)

[hoq]

Inspired by Macintosh 128K and Adobe PS and AI, I designed  this new keyset.
I'm a PS and AI daily user, and I love PS and AI very much. To speed up my retouch work I always have to remember some short cut keys, but some times I press the wrong keys.
So, I think it would be better if I have a cheat sheet on my keyboard, or some icons on my keycaps.
You know, you may buy some short cut icon stickers from some online shops, but they looks not good, and feels bad.
Then, this idea flashed in my mind.

Profile: SA 1-1-2-3-4-3
Factory: Signature Plastics, USA
Material： Double-shot ABS











Renders: (Made by York.Chen)







Q and A:

Q: Whether these shortcut icons have infringement problems？
A: Although it looks like original PS and AI software icons, it is actually my own work, I redrew them by myself.

Q: Why there are not Numpad kits?
A: I have not decided whether or not to add a kit for each, but if a lot of people would like to have numpad, I may add one for each color.
     In fact I want to reduce the total cost to make more people can affort it.

Q: Does SP can side-print those icons on the front skirt of the keycaps?
A: SP replied me no problem. 

Q: Where do you want to run a group-buy for this keyset?
A: TBD

Q: When will you hold the group-buy?
A: TBD, maybe at this Christmas?

Q: What a possible production schedule for this keyset?
A: 1 year after the group-buy ends, the recent production slot for SA is Nov.2019.  Don't always complain why it's so slow, why is it always delayed, you know it's just "new normal" for SP SA ABS keycaps.

Q: Have you cosidered to make with other metarial by other makers? such as SP PBT or Maxkey?
A: No. At least the first step, I want to do SP SA ABS first.

Q: What is your next work for this keyset?
A: 3D renders. ) (done)

[spkmic]

SA Mechanist GB is fail?

[otanishock]

SA Mechanist GB is fail?

It has already concluded. I joined that one.

[otanishock]

SP and SA? Count me in  )

[MikeTheTiger]

I like it, looks great! I vote for the numpad inclusion.

[gr4v3m4n]

I guess it'll be a fun question to ask since this keycaps actually functional other than just esthetics. What If i were going to use both programs in a work flow? Since both shortcuts has some differences and similarity.

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[hoq]

SP and SA? Count me in  )

Yes SP SA!
Thanks!

[AaronR]

would love option and command keys as this is inspired from a Macintosh to it really should have popper Mac support then

[Hamel]

this is really clean. i like it.

[appaboy]

would really like a numpad kit myself. I love this! we need more sets with front printed stuff.

edit: also not to be rude but i dont really like the trend of the "Up Down Left Right" printed arrow keys, so an option to have icons there would be appreciated

[sevenseacat]

SA Mechanist GB is fail?

Yeah, it really was. Chances are if this gets run on some sketchy unknown site, it will too!

[yap68]

Such a neat design. Prefer blue but have to buy both to be complete.

So, please keep the cost down. I am ok without numpad. Lastly, can you do the gb on zFrontier or on your own like SA Song?

[fatpolomanjr]

Any chances at a spacebars kit, to support 40% and split spacebar layouts?

[lovetree]

SA Mechanist GB is fail?

It has already concluded. I joined that one.

Did you receive any invoice?

[hoq]

I guess it'll be a fun question to ask since this keycaps actually functional other than just esthetics. What If i were going to use both programs in a work flow? Since both shortcuts has some differences and similarity.

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haha,it's a fun question, maybe you need to got 2 keyboards for both 2 keysets to put them on.
Just jorking.

[hoq]

would really like a numpad kit myself. I love this! we need more sets with front printed stuff.

edit: also not to be rude but i dont really like the trend of the "Up Down Left Right" printed arrow keys, so an option to have icons there would be appreciated

Yes, Numpad can be added later.
Do you mean front print the arraws on UP DOWN LEFT RIGHT keys?

[hoq]

would love option and command keys as this is inspired from a Macintosh to it really should have popper Mac support then

No problem , I'll add them later.

[mimalik]

I am a sucker for orange and blue so will def go for these. Please include numpad kit as well, else it will be incomplete. Are you planning to run this via MD or some other vendor?

[William_S_Jones]

I love it, I’m a 40% user, so I’ll find a way to make it work. BTW, I known SP SA takes over a year, have you thought about checking w/ MAXKEYS too? Also, see no Iso kit, another reason, I’d recommend checking w/ MAXKEYS


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[Oblotzky]

I love it, I’m a 40% user, so I’ll find a way to make it work. BTW, I known SP SA takes over a year, have you thought about checking w/ MAXKEYS too? Also, see no Iso kit, another reason, I’d recommend checking w/ MAXKEYS


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This set heavily relies on side printed legends, which Maxkeys does not offer afaik

[William_S_Jones]

I love it, I’m a 40% user, so I’ll find a way to make it work. BTW, I known SP SA takes over a year, have you thought about checking w/ MAXKEYS too? Also, see no Iso kit, another reason, I’d recommend checking w/ MAXKEYS


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This set heavily relies on side printed legends, which Maxkeys does not offer afaik

Thanks, I wasn’t aware


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[Zilleon]

SA Mechanist GB is fail?

It has already concluded. I joined that one.

Did you receive any invoice?

I also did not receive any invoice

[young_won]

i think that i will can't see side-printed well. 

[hoq]

I love it, I’m a 40% user, so I’ll find a way to make it work. BTW, I known SP SA takes over a year, have you thought about checking w/ MAXKEYS too? Also, see no Iso kit, another reason, I’d recommend checking w/ MAXKEYS


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Maxkey is not a bad choice, after I run SP SA I'll consider it.

[William_S_Jones]

I love it, I’m a 40% user, so I’ll find a way to make it work. BTW, I known SP SA takes over a year, have you thought about checking w/ MAXKEYS too? Also, see no Iso kit, another reason, I’d recommend checking w/ MAXKEYS


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Maxkey is not a bad choice, after I run SP SA I'll consider it.

Thanks, I’m may still try to join you SP SA run, I just hate SP’ long & at time additional delays w/ SA sets.


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[breusch91]

Before people get hyped on this you might want HOQ to answer a few very important questions.

1. Who will be hosting this GB? Last time you ended up passing the GB off to some company with a brand new extremely sketchy website that wasnt functioning properly, only had this GB hosted on it and nothing else, and had no other functioning links, even the "privacy policy" link lead to a "File Not Found" page.

2. Where will people be able to discuss this buy if/after it makes it to the GB stage?  Last time you quickly closed the IC once the GB opened (which is GH procedure), but then you never opened a GB thread or provided anywhere else to discuss the GB and its status.

3. Will you be accepting paypal for if this hits GB? This may seem like a dumb question, but last time Paypal was NOT accepted as payment.


I'm asking these questions because they are extremely important to the success of the set.

[pixelpusher]

I love both sets and I think these would be great as a teaching tool for my son.  I've had all of these shortcuts committed to memory for years now, but it would probably help a novice.  I just wish there was an accent enter that didn't have the "hello" text.  I get the homage, but I'm not a fan of it.

[spkmic]

SA Mechanist GB is fail?

It has already concluded. I joined that one.

Did you receive any invoice?

I also did not receive any invoice

I did not receive any invoice.
They did not tell me anything.
So I thought that GB failed.
But I was suddenly billed today.
I do not even know my order list.
Panic. 

[Zilleon]

SA Mechanist GB is fail?

It has already concluded. I joined that one.

Did you receive any invoice?

I also did not receive any invoice

I did not receive any invoice.
They did not tell me anything.
So I thought that GB failed.
But I was suddenly billed today.
I do not even know my order list.
Panic. 

Same thing!

If I don't get an email or something I'll have to chargeback...

@hoq can you tell us what is going on here?

[hoq]

SA Mechanist GB is fail?

It has already concluded. I joined that one.

Did you receive any invoice?

I also did not receive any invoice

I did not receive any invoice.
They did not tell me anything.
So I thought that GB failed.
But I was suddenly billed today.
I do not even know my order list.
Panic. 

Same thing!

If I don't get an email or something I'll have to chargeback...

@hoq can you tell us what is going on here?

Sorry, I also don't quite know the progress now.
If the group buy fail finally, I think I can run it one year leter with fewer kits and shorter group buy period.

[hoq]

Thanks for York.Chen's help, I got some renders. Looks so beatiful!

Renders: (Made by York.Chen)

[bluesclera]

I would prefer a spacebar that matches the alphas at least as an option.

[hoq]

I would prefer a spacebar that matches the alphas at least as an option.

Do you mean the white spacebars? That not bad idea.

[bluesclera]

I would prefer a spacebar that matches the alphas at least as an option.

Do you mean the white spacebars? That not bad idea.

Like this:

[hoq]

I would prefer a spacebar that matches the alphas at least as an option.

Do you mean the white spacebars? That not bad idea.

Like this:

Ok, I understood.

[biip]

Really nice use of side-printing
Well executed.

I would have added a tabs icon under `~ tho.

[hoq]

Before people get hyped on this you might want HOQ to answer a few very important questions.

1. Who will be hosting this GB? Last time you ended up passing the GB off to some company with a brand new extremely sketchy website that wasnt functioning properly, only had this GB hosted on it and nothing else, and had no other functioning links, even the "privacy policy" link lead to a "File Not Found" page.

2. Where will people be able to discuss this buy if/after it makes it to the GB stage?  Last time you quickly closed the IC once the GB opened (which is GH procedure), but then you never opened a GB thread or provided anywhere else to discuss the GB and its status.

3. Will you be accepting paypal for if this hits GB? This may seem like a dumb question, but last time Paypal was NOT accepted as payment.


I'm asking these questions because they are extremely important to the success of the set.

Hi, sorry I missed your replay, I just saw it now.

1, For SA 128K, I will run all buy myself. I know you mean techbuys issue of Mechanist, but until now I can't tell what really happend of techbuys, I can’t contact him either.

2, The GB date has not decided yet, Of course, I will fully seek all your opinions. Sorry for the previous experience made you unhappy, but, you know I 'm a individal designer, all that I can do is to keep the design neat and simple, that can reduce the cost for all the people, more kits is impossible to meet MOQ. A summary of everyone’s opinions does not guarantee a successful group buy.

3.Surely this time I use Palpay, if you feel unsafe of the payment or the procedure anytime you can cancel the payment.

[mgsickler]

This is really nice. I’m interested for sure.

[MFahim]

This looks great, I'd prefer the numpad kit as well.

[pixelpusher]

question... Doesn't the illustrator set have too much red in it?  It needs to be more orange, right?

Pretty sure it should be OBC, no OB for Illustrator.  OB is too close to red, which would be Animate (Flash)







Actually, OAS might be even closer, but it is a true orange.  Seems like you want a more red-orange.

[hhkbp2]

Beautiful design and awesome renders.  Cool.

[baoduy23]

you guys can still run GB of SP SA? I heard someone said they full of production for 2019?

[yap68]

Of couse can, as long as you can wait for a year or more

[hhkbp2]

you guys can still run GB of SP SA? I heard someone said they full of production for 2019?

Not good to wait for a year, but some of us are still willing to take this wait for our favorite design and profile.  )

[hoq]

question... Doesn't the illustrator set have too much red in it?  It needs to be more orange, right?

Pretty sure it should be OBC, no OB for Illustrator.  OB is too close to red, which would be Animate (Flash)


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Actually, OAS might be even closer, but it is a true orange.  Seems like you want a more red-orange.

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OBC and OAS look more close to AI icon 's color.  haha .
I just followed the feeling of choosing the color.

[hoq]

updated.

[otanishock]

Any update on GB timing?

[hoq]

Any update on GB timing?

Have not any plan yet. I'm busy at something else now.
 )

[hoq]

BTW, Its 35th anniversary of Macintosh 128K today.

[pixelpusher]

BTW, Its 35th anniversary of Macintosh 128K today.

Nice.

Any update on GB timing?

Have not any plan yet. I'm busy at something else now.
 )

Tell us more!  Must know secret hoq project

[hoq]

Mac kit added!

[otanishock]

This has my name all over. I'm in.

[pixelpusher]

Mac kit added!

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I think you meant (ON) for the side print in the illustrator set, not (NO)

[AaronR]

Spacebar kit has (no) listed also instead of (on) for the side printing

[vicissitude]

Money is ready.
Just make the GB happen. 

[mimalik]

Not sure if SP will be able to do side printing. But now more I look at it, I find that it will be much cleaner and better set w/o the side print. Again just my personal opinion, not asking that set be modified.

[pixelpusher]

Not sure if SP will be able to do side printing. But now more I look at it, I find that it will be much cleaner and better set w/o the side print. Again just my personal opinion, not asking that set be modified.

SP can do side printing, as stated in the Q&A of the OP.  Plus we know they can b/c of SA Retro

[hoq]

Spacebar kit has (no) listed also instead of (on) for the side printing

OK, modified! Thanks.

[hoq]

Not sure if SP will be able to do side printing. But now more I look at it, I find that it will be much cleaner and better set w/o the side print. Again just my personal opinion, not asking that set be modified.

That's no problem, I have asked SP , they told me OK.
Just like SA Carbon and Camping, their LED windowed Capslock and Scroll Lock keys also have side print legends.  )

[hoq]

This has my name all over. I'm in.

HH. Thanks bro.

[otanishock]

Any updated timeline avail?

[Juiceion]

How much extra would it cost to have the side print icons? I think side print is cool but wouldn't they need to make new moulds for each key?

[AaronR]

I think the side printing should be removed from the Mac kit as it doesn’t match the rest of the mods as they lack the side printing

[hoq]

How much extra would it cost to have the side print icons? I think side print is cool but wouldn't they need to make new moulds for each key?

Not that high with side print icons. I'm not sure if SP need made some molds, but I don't think that will far more high than the normal ones.

[hoq]

Any updated timeline avail?

Maybe I run this in March. 

[hoq]

I think the side printing should be removed from the Mac kit as it doesn’t match the rest of the mods as they lack the side printing

Yes, you said right. I thought people like those MAC option and command icons, so I added.
If I removed those icons, the kit should be some what cheaper I think.

[coffeeshopcoder]

I personally like the mac kit with the side printing. Its unique, although not in keeping with the theme of graphics applications.
If you decide to take it off, What would be cool is if you could try the mac kit as "novelties" with the proper icons double-shot. I don't think SP has molds for the mac ctrl, opt, and the command icons, hence "novelty". This is a heavily icon focused kit, and I think it would be a awesome if the community had a proper icon mod kit for the SA profile !

[Cods]

I use neither photoshop, nor illustrator.... but you had me at SP + SA + Mac. 

[vicissitude]

Mac kit is so nice.
Can't wait. 

[coffeeshopcoder]

Glad to see there is support for a mac kit !!! loving this !
I hope one day SP will have proper icon mod molds for mac!

[mudcakehoney]

Hey hoq, any update on Mechanist just wondering if production has started yet

[JPVann]

Love having a practical reason to justify new good looking keycaps!

[hoq]

I personally like the mac kit with the side printing. Its unique, although not in keeping with the theme of graphics applications.
If you decide to take it off, What would be cool is if you could try the mac kit as "novelties" with the proper icons double-shot. I don't think SP has molds for the mac ctrl, opt, and the command icons, hence "novelty". This is a heavily icon focused kit, and I think it would be a awesome if the community had a proper icon mod kit for the SA profile !

I haven't asked SP whether they would like to make new MAC novelties for themself yet, but it's really hard to tell.

As an additional information, the cost of mold for permanent use is not the same with one-time use mold.
If I ask to make novelties keys for myself, which will be charged 50USD for each new mold to me, which just for me for temporary use.
because I pay for them, SP will not use these molds for other designs of any other designers for universal keyset designs. 

Unless SP is planning to make their onw MAC novelties, but the long-lasting mold is very high, SP may have their own decision.

[hoq]

Hey hoq, any update on Mechanist just wondering if production has started yet

A production slot has been ordered.

[hoq]

Color chips as below:

[RealLaugh]

Color chips as below:

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Just out of interest can you tell me how ON and OB are used in the Ai kit? I thought there was only one (ON or OB but not both).

[coffeeshopcoder]

Just out of interest can you tell me how ON and OB are used in the Ai kit? I thought there was only one (ON or OB but not both).

Its there on the OP. Here it is again (I also thought this was hard to find on OP).
KeyColor(LegendColor)

[hoq]

hi ,everyone ,
I have got the price from SP, I'm planning to run a group-buy on 5th March.

The prices are not that high except Mac kit. SP said that front-print keys are too much to get them done.
It's the first time they handle so many front-print keys.

[AaronR]

I bet it’s too late to remove the side printing on the Mac kit as that price is a joke

I can’t really see selling 50 plus Mac kits to make closer to reasonable

[hoq]

I bet it’s too late to remove the side printing on the Mac kit as that price is a joke

I can’t really see selling 50 plus Mac kits to make closer to reasonable

Yes, I'm a little hesitant to remove the front-print of Mac kit to make it cheaper.

[coffeeshopcoder]

Is the GB starting today ? I don’t see a gb post ?

[skaloola]

Why the "Hello" return?  why not just ditch that and offer regular return?  does anyone actually that key?  or make icon mod even

i'm considering purchasing but that key alone is aggravating to me

[duxbridge]

As a Mac user, I whole-heartedly support this IC!