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« on: Wed, 23 June 2010, 07:16:43 »
Hi All.

We now have a tentative delivery date of Mid August 2010 for Filco Majestouch 105 in the following varieties.

Swedish/Finnish
German
French
Italian.

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« Reply #1 on: Fri, 25 June 2010, 07:51:03 »
All of those are Colemak layouts, I take it?  :þ
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« Reply #2 on: Fri, 25 June 2010, 08:03:59 »
\o/

Any plan of having those in tenkeyless as well someday ?

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« Reply #3 on: Sat, 26 June 2010, 15:07:19 »
Nice, thanks for the update :) It will be nice to finally have a real keyboard at work

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« Reply #4 on: Sun, 11 July 2010, 10:20:41 »
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Any plan of having those in tenkeyless as well someday ?


Seconding this.

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« Reply #5 on: Mon, 12 July 2010, 05:10:57 »
Tenkeyless in UK, French, German and Scandinavian is my current project.
My wheels are in motion - It is happening - most definitely.

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« Reply #6 on: Mon, 12 July 2010, 05:12:10 »
And what about spanish? Is posible? The layout is the same...
Too many keyboards....

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« Reply #7 on: Mon, 12 July 2010, 05:14:03 »
I'd buy a Spanish Majestouch 105 right now.

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« Reply #8 on: Mon, 12 July 2010, 05:20:22 »
Hi you guys in Sapin.
Congratulations on the football. Very well played.
We will eventually be covering all languages but it will takes some time i'm afraid.

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« Reply #9 on: Mon, 12 July 2010, 05:34:50 »
Come on, sort out the Filco Tenkeyless UK before I lose patience and buy a Das 105.

The european vendor for Das have a preliminary date of September 2010 for the new Das S Professional in UK layout without the media key, my money goes to the 1st supplier with goods available between Filco Tenkeyless UK or Das 105 Pro S UK

Never mind the waffle, get it sorted.


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« Reply #10 on: Mon, 12 July 2010, 06:04:35 »

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« Reply #11 on: Mon, 12 July 2010, 06:40:18 »
What's a preliminary date?

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« Reply #12 on: Mon, 12 July 2010, 07:05:10 »
Quote from: Dirty Bint;201874
Come on, sort out the Filco Tenkeyless UK before I lose patience and buy a Das 105.

Uh...
You want a Filco Tenkeyless, or you'll take a DAS 105 ?!

It's the lack of tenkeyless in other brands that makes you want Filco's, I guess ?
Else that doesn't make much sense.


Bruce, any idea when your wheels will reach their destination(s) ?

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« Reply #13 on: Mon, 12 July 2010, 08:38:17 »
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What's a preliminary date?


Collins English Dictionary - "Preliminary":
"An eliminating contest held before the main event or competition"

In other words, they will be there before you.

It is nice to see that the sycophantic chum boys are present, your support for your friend the Keyboard Company is admirable.


I would prefer to spend my dosh with Bruce's outfit as it is English and it keeps my money in the UK, however, if the UK vendor does not have the product I wish for then overseas to Germany it is, even though they knocked us out of the World Cup.

Come on Bruce, these white fivers are burning a hole in my pocket, bint on, bint on !!


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« Reply #14 on: Mon, 12 July 2010, 10:43:32 »
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Collins English Dictionary - "Preliminary":
"An eliminating contest held before the main event or competition"...


Or in other words "held before the main event"
or, they have a day, when they might have an idea when they will get told what day they can expect...

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« Reply #15 on: Mon, 12 July 2010, 11:24:40 »
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It is nice to see that the sycophantic chum boys are present, your support for your friend the Keyboard Company is admirable.

I'd rather be sycophantic that an ass (see what I did there ?), but to each his own.

Now show me any other company that propose (or *will* propose) quality french mechanical keyboards, and I might shift my interest.
I'm not saying there's none, but at least I didn't find one, so for the time being I'll keep on supporting KeyboardCo, mind you.

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« Reply #16 on: Thu, 22 July 2010, 16:58:41 »
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Hi All.

We now have a tentative delivery date of Mid August 2010 for Filco Majestouch 105 in the following varieties.

Swedish/Finnish
German
French
Italian.

Yes, please. :)

A tenkeyless would be better but in the meantime...
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Apple Extended Keyboard
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Filco Majestouch

Very few tactile mech keyboards are available in Italian layout...

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« Reply #17 on: Fri, 23 July 2010, 15:39:53 »
I would be more interested in a blank tenkeyless ISO layout than Swedish legends.
.... but those circles on the Meta keys are too much of an eye-sore either way.

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« Reply #18 on: Sun, 25 July 2010, 02:50:48 »
Tenkeyless swedish would be so awesome. I would order one immediately.
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« Reply #19 on: Sun, 25 July 2010, 04:13:47 »
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Come on, sort out the Filco Tenkeyless UK before I lose patience and buy a Das 105.


Don't jump!, wait for the filco.

IMO, the US layout has the edge with the enter key that little bit closer to the home keys.  I've just pulled the trigger on a new unicomp and went for the US layout even though the UK was available at the same price.
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« Reply #20 on: Sun, 25 July 2010, 06:22:54 »
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Don't jump!, wait for the filco.

IMO, the US layout has the edge with the enter key that little bit closer to the home keys.  I've just pulled the trigger on a new unicomp and went for the US layout even though the UK was available at the same price.


I need the UK layout as I need the £ symbol and the € symbol in readily accessible keystrokes. If there was a simple option to activate these symbols on a US layout keyboard I would go for it.


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« Reply #21 on: Sun, 25 July 2010, 06:28:45 »
Here you go.

Alt-Gr + 5 = Euro
Alt-Gr + 4 = Pound
« Last Edit: Sun, 25 July 2010, 06:37:02 by ch_123 »

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« Reply #22 on: Sun, 25 July 2010, 11:27:36 »
Are those built in to the keyboard?
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« Reply #23 on: Sun, 25 July 2010, 12:35:44 »
I assume that the Filco keyboards all use standard PS/2 and USB/HID protocols.
Then the Alt Gr - combinations are all in software on the host.

Most keyboards don't know anything about key combinations at all, or even about which character comes out when you press which key. The keyboard produces a scan-code for each key that is pressed.
The operating system uses a keymap to convert scan-codes and combinations of scan-codes into key-codes and unicode character codes.

You can change keymap in a operating system's "keyboard settings" or "language settings". Most of the times, when the operating system is installed, the user selects his country and language, and the keymap is assigned based on that information. This selection becomes the default selection for all new users after that.
I think that both Windows and MacOS comes with menu bar / tray apps for changing keymap on the fly.  For instance, I have worked with a programmer who uses that regularly to swap between US/English and Swedish keymaps with the same keyboard. He uses US/English keymap when programming (because the most popular programming language are better suited for US/English key layout) and Swedish/Finnish keymap when writing text in Swedish.
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« Reply #24 on: Sun, 25 July 2010, 12:39:27 »
I know that at work, there was a Spanish keyboard on one machine and I had to install a driver for it in order to get the special n~ key and a few others work properly.
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« Reply #25 on: Tue, 27 July 2010, 06:10:58 »
Quote from: Bruce;195686
Hi All.

We now have a tentative delivery date of Mid August 2010 for Filco Majestouch 105 in the following varieties.

Swedish/Finnish
German
French
Italian.

What means a "tentative delivery" in terms of disposability for consumers? I'm impatiently interested in a Majestouch 105 in German with brown switches. Will there be a possibility to purchase them Mid August over the webpage of keyboardco.com ?

Thanks
Chris

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« Reply #26 on: Tue, 27 July 2010, 13:26:50 »
Now if I just could get my self justify 140€ on keyboard, and to choose between browns and blues...
So I should add something useless here yes? Ok, ok...
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« Reply #27 on: Wed, 28 July 2010, 07:28:12 »
Hi All.

The 105 Majestouch Euro Models are on a ship due to dock in the UK on 17 August. So all on schedule for the end of August.
They'll only go live on http://www.keyboardco.com once they arrive with us but if you want to pre-order drop me an email.

Bruce.

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« Reply #28 on: Wed, 28 July 2010, 10:04:03 »
Does that include Spanish, Bruce?

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« Reply #29 on: Thu, 29 July 2010, 03:27:05 »
Hi Mart.
Welcome..

No. It's these layouts in the shipment:-
Swedish/Finnish
German
French
Italian.

Spanish is going to be some time I think.

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« Reply #30 on: Thu, 29 July 2010, 15:55:30 »
Hey Bruce good work on getting those keyboards to europe.

Any idea if/when you guys will be offering danish versions? I think it's a little bit different from the swedish ones.

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« Reply #31 on: Thu, 29 July 2010, 17:25:58 »
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Hey Bruce good work on getting those keyboards to europe.

Any idea if/when you guys will be offering danish versions? I think it's a little bit different from the swedish ones.


Yep Ö and Ä after L and \ | in different places also § ½ swaped for some reason... Think thouse are all differences...
So I should add something useless here yes? Ok, ok...
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« Reply #32 on: Fri, 30 July 2010, 08:54:29 »
Hi Moby.

Welcome to Geekhack.

Sorry but I don't think we'll be considering any further layouts until next year. I need to see some comeback on these ones first :-/

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« Reply #33 on: Tue, 03 August 2010, 04:40:37 »
I'm leaving for holidays today, so too late to send a preorder mail, but one of the first things I'll do when coming back is definitly getting one of these beauties! Great news that they are not delayed :)

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« Reply #34 on: Tue, 17 August 2010, 09:58:21 »
Hi

Our carriers have told me today that this shipment will be with us on Friday
(20 August 2010)
Have added the parts today for ordering on keyboardco.com

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« Reply #35 on: Tue, 17 August 2010, 12:43:08 »
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Hi

Our carriers have told me today that this shipment will be with us on Friday
(20 August 2010)
Have added the parts today for ordering on keyboardco.com


Good now I only need to drag myself over the price and order one...
Good that finaly an option is available.
So I should add something useless here yes? Ok, ok...
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« Reply #36 on: Sat, 21 August 2010, 04:03:52 »
Hey Bruce,
I bought a Filco keyboard from The Keyboard Company about a month ago. It's got a UK layout, which is the same as Swedish except for the lettering on some of the caps. I was wondering if it would be possible to buy replacement caps for Swedish or other language layouts?

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« Reply #37 on: Sat, 21 August 2010, 16:22:31 »
Hi Pipedream.
Welcome to Geekhack.
I think I can work something out on that. A bit of swapping around and we can have a 105 'Otaku' and a set of spares.

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« Reply #38 on: Fri, 03 September 2010, 11:28:56 »
Now working on one of these for a week, thanks Bruce for allowing this! And for people who hesitate, I say go for it, a great great keyboard with your local layout is finally possible :)

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« Reply #39 on: Fri, 10 September 2010, 05:50:55 »
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Tenkeyless in UK, French, German and Scandinavian is my current project.
My wheels are in motion - It is happening - most definitely.


Hello,
Is it possible to get any information or clues when the tenkeleyss models will be available? Is it on schedule to happen still this year?
I could get a 105 now, but would regret the purchase really much if a tenkeyless version came available in a couple of months..

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« Reply #40 on: Fri, 10 September 2010, 09:00:11 »
Hi RON1
Welcome to Geekhack.
It's looking like January next year for the Tenkeyless now i'm afraid.
I am sorry, with hindsight I should have got on the case much earlier, we didn't realise how long it would take to get the ISO format made up.
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« Reply #41 on: Fri, 10 September 2010, 09:00:28 »
Hi RON1
Welcome to Geekhack.
It's looking like next year for the Tenkeyless now i'm afraid.
I am sorry, with hindsight I should have got on the case much earlier, we didn't realise how long it would take to get the ISO format made up.

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« Reply #42 on: Fri, 10 September 2010, 11:03:58 »
Thanks for the fast answer. Now I got a hard situation, to wait or not, and my fingers are itching to type with something nice. :)
Its awesome that you are getting euro layouts made and more options for us, thanks for that.

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« Reply #43 on: Fri, 10 September 2010, 11:08:36 »
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That should pretty much sum it all up, everything works and is there, few unlegended charaters which aren't in mapping, but I don't even need those. First impression of this keyboard(Swedish/Finnish tactile 105-Filco) is pretty solid.
So I should add something useless here yes? Ok, ok...
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« Reply #44 on: Mon, 13 September 2010, 16:45:45 »
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It's looking like January next year for the Tenkeyless now i'm afraid.


Will this include the cherry black version? I was thinking of getting a setup with the alphabetical keycaps blank plus the blue WADS and red ESC, since i use both dvorak and qwerty (witch makes printing on the caps confusing :p ) Would it be possible for you to exchange the keycaps so i can save a bit on the shipping? Also, are the custom keycaps the same size and feel as the standard ones?

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« Reply #45 on: Mon, 13 September 2010, 18:34:26 »
Hello

Another Swede here, just wanted to let you know there are plenty of us whanting the tenkeyless swe/fin version :)

If I could file a preorder on 2 of theese I would.
Thanks for offering this :)
I "cant" wait.

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« Reply #46 on: Tue, 14 September 2010, 07:30:36 »
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Another Swede here, just wanted to let you know there are plenty of us whanting the tenkeyless swe/fin version :)

Indeed, I am trying as best I can to convert my unenlighted rubber dome using friends. :)

I'd like to add, if this wasn't clear in my previous post, that if I get the setup I mentioned I wouldn't be needing the swe/fin edition, just an EU layout with cherry black. But eventual friends I might successfully convert would probably prefer swedish printing. ^^

edit: I made a crappy photoshop of how I want it to look, except the image is of a US keyboard.

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« Reply #47 on: Tue, 14 September 2010, 15:48:16 »
Hi Sefira

Welcome to geekhack.
The Swede/Finn models will arrive at the same time as the others so you can chose.
You're right. We find the majority of people are much happier with the layout they're familiar with. I am too - although I am using a USA Tenkeyless right now as it's all I've got.

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« Reply #48 on: Wed, 15 September 2010, 02:28:42 »
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I am using a USA Tenkeyless right now as it's all I've got.

No keyboard left at the Keyboard Company ?
That's a bit frightening :wink:

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« Reply #49 on: Tue, 28 September 2010, 07:14:45 »
I can't type on a UK board any more. The horizontal enter key is just painful for my little finger. And some even have a single width backspace. Horrible.
US layout FTW!
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