Burt orange were way too heavy for me. Too stiff for accurate typing. And the bump was stronger on the return in a weird way.
Are these as stiff as oranges?
Well, I'm a pretty heavy typist so Box Burnt Orange feels somewhat light to me. I think Box Navy's and BKE Extremes are average weight.
Haata has done force curve graphs for the Box Royals and the highest point seems to be a 67g, compared to Navy's 77g and the Burnt Orange's 60g. Based on numbers alone, Royal might be too high for you. It's very likely Mike will be doing a lower weight version similar to the Jade.
The tactility is nothing to scoff at. From using a single switch in hand, this Royal has more tactility than the 78g Zeal switch I have, which is the most tactile of the Zeal switches imo. It makes the Burnt Orange feel linear and, while that may seem like an exaggeration, I'm actually not kidding. Of course, as always, key feel is very personal and subjective so your mileage may vary.
They also have more of a unique bump than I've felt in any other tactile (mx stem style at least, not enough knowledge in alps and others).
I had to get my orange switches out again to test because they certainly feel a lot heavier than 60g. I think maybe you are talking about box oranges? I was referring to the regular burnt orange, non-box. My bad. Regular burnt oranges are 70g and certainly get heavier than that near bottoming out. I have never tried the box burnt orange since the reported issues with crooked stems.
I will definitely be trying the Royals when they are out. I'm a sucker for new switches... probably why I have a good 2-3 thousand different switches sitting in my closet at the moment O.o
I still don't understand box navy fascination. I love clicky switches, but the stiffness of the click is a bit absurd to me. I've got them in a board for novelty, but I don't type on them regularly. Jades feet sticky on the way up and they sit unused for now. Still wishing for a somehow improved box pale blue. It's so close to perfect but just not quite clicky or heavy enough for me. Maybe some sort of non-linear spring like in Hako switches would do the job?
I think the Hako True switches are the nicest heavy switch I've tried to this date. They are the only current mechanical switch that I find myself actually craving to use when I'm away from my computer. I guess I'm addicted to them. It's not just the heaviness of the spring, but the interesting change in weight from the fast drop at the top to the rather stiff bottom. Hats off to everyone who worked on that switch. I hope the box royals will be even nicer. It sure is a nice time to be interested in mechanical keyboards.
Ahh, the speed heavy ones? Yeah, those are closer to 65g according to Haata's graphs. Although, the spring is rated to be 70g. I've only tested that in a switch tester but it's light for my tastes, still.
2-3k, wow, that's a lot. I might have a few hundred to at most 1k. I'm going to get a couple hundred of this Box Royal when it becomes available. I already love it so much based on the sample.
I'm also a pretty big fan of the Navy. I do think it can get better but so can Zealios and people praise those.
I have Hako Trues, just waiting for a board to come in so I can build with them. I've heard good things about it if you're able to type properly and not bottom out. Being a heavy typist, I fear bottoming out and not getting the best feel of these switches.
Maybe you can swap a Hako True spring into a Box Navy? They're both Box switches so I assume the springs are swappable.
