I think having a pair of 2.25x (left shift) shift keys would be nice for 660 owners.
I will be in for two addon kits.
I'd replace "Alt" replacing "Alt Gr" with "Alt Gr."
I'd replace "Alt" replacing "Alt Gr" with "Alt Gr."
Gr oss.
I'm an ISO user, and I hate alt gr.
Based on the feedbacks, added a very basic Dolch Base sets to the IC.
I will be in for 2 add-on kits if it supports 75%.
I think having a pair of 2.25x (left shift) shift keys would be nice for 660 owners.
How about Base set with Icons Modifier like Sky Dolch reborn?
Ivan did it great no doubt about that, would like to see it relunch again. :rolleyes:
Added a very basic base set, but with so much GMK Keysets floating around next year, I am not sure if this set can make it ways.
No ISO keys in any kit? I don't know if there's someone else who needs them.
I've discovered that gmk pricing is quite suprising, I mean that once you pass a certain number of keys, they start to become "quite" cheap.
I mean that the 1800 kit could cost for example €20, and adding a numpad kit to the 1800 kit could possibly cost only €7, while the numpad kit alone could cost €15. This isn't an easy problem to address.
No ISO keys in any kit? I don't know if there's someone else who needs them.
I've discovered that gmk pricing is quite suprising, I mean that once you pass a certain number of keys, they start to become "quite" cheap.
I mean that the 1800 kit could cost for example €20, and adding a numpad kit to the 1800 kit could possibly cost only €7, while the numpad kit alone could cost €15. This isn't an easy problem to address.
It sounds like you should be really inclined to start a GB for it ;). I highly encourage you to do so in order to achieve the most optimized kit pricing for the keys you and your fellow ISO members need.
But the real question is: how many ISO users are there with GMK dolch that want it? Or how many people want to buy GMK dolch and get ISO? Is there demand? Can you fill 150 units?
No ISO keys in any kit? I don't know if there's someone else who needs them.
I've discovered that gmk pricing is quite suprising, I mean that once you pass a certain number of keys, they start to become "quite" cheap.
I mean that the 1800 kit could cost for example €20, and adding a numpad kit to the 1800 kit could possibly cost only €7, while the numpad kit alone could cost €15. This isn't an easy problem to address.
It sounds like you should be really inclined to start a GB for it ;). I highly encourage you to do so in order to achieve the most optimized kit pricing for the keys you and your fellow ISO members need.
But the real question is: how many ISO users are there with GMK dolch that want it? Or how many people want to buy GMK dolch and get ISO? Is there demand? Can you fill 150 units?
Please stop.
No ISO keys in any kit? I don't know if there's someone else who needs them.
I've discovered that gmk pricing is quite suprising, I mean that once you pass a certain number of keys, they start to become "quite" cheap.
I mean that the 1800 kit could cost for example €20, and adding a numpad kit to the 1800 kit could possibly cost only €7, while the numpad kit alone could cost €15. This isn't an easy problem to address.
It sounds like you should be really inclined to start a GB for it ;). I highly encourage you to do so in order to achieve the most optimized kit pricing for the keys you and your fellow ISO members need.
But the real question is: how many ISO users are there with GMK dolch that want it? Or how many people want to buy GMK dolch and get ISO? Is there demand? Can you fill 150 units?
Please stop.
Giorgio, why do you ask so many people to do this yet, when people ask you to do it, you say there's no way?
No ISO keys in any kit? I don't know if there's someone else who needs them.
I've discovered that gmk pricing is quite suprising, I mean that once you pass a certain number of keys, they start to become "quite" cheap.
I mean that the 1800 kit could cost for example €20, and adding a numpad kit to the 1800 kit could possibly cost only €7, while the numpad kit alone could cost €15. This isn't an easy problem to address.
It sounds like you should be really inclined to start a GB for it ;). I highly encourage you to do so in order to achieve the most optimized kit pricing for the keys you and your fellow ISO members need.
But the real question is: how many ISO users are there with GMK dolch that want it? Or how many people want to buy GMK dolch and get ISO? Is there demand? Can you fill 150 units?
Please stop.
Giorgio, why do you ask so many people to do this yet, when people ask you to do it, you say there's no way?
I don't think that's fair if you to say Giorgio. As romevi said, you ask others to include it, yet don't take the initiative to do it yourself.
I think my question is pretty fair with the moqs. You know iso has an issue with meeting it as is mate.
In any case, I'll drop it. Hope you find what you're looking for.
Sorry to butt in, but if you wish to talk about numbers, instead of opinions, the 150 MOQ question should either be had for all of the keys in the kit or for none. For example the WKL bottom row is hardly more popular than ISO, and yet you seem to feel that it is perfectly OK for it to be present in any kit. It has been a while since the last GB that made a clear-ish separation for WKL buyers. The latest one being the still ongoing dasher/dancer, and in that one currently ISO has 54 kits sold, while 7U spacebar has been bought by 87. The spacebar set has also an extra 6.25U spacebar, and thus some correction should be added to the 87 spacebar kits sold as some people are buying them just to get the space in mod colour instead of the standard alpha colour. Both (ISO UK and WKL bottom row) have realistically under 10% of people behind them, so unless this set sells more than 1500 units, both should be removed "as they would not reach MOQ on their own".No ISO keys in any kit? I don't know if there's someone else who needs them.
I've discovered that gmk pricing is quite suprising, I mean that once you pass a certain number of keys, they start to become "quite" cheap.
I mean that the 1800 kit could cost for example €20, and adding a numpad kit to the 1800 kit could possibly cost only €7, while the numpad kit alone could cost €15. This isn't an easy problem to address.
It sounds like you should be really inclined to start a GB for it ;). I highly encourage you to do so in order to achieve the most optimized kit pricing for the keys you and your fellow ISO members need.
But the real question is: how many ISO users are there with GMK dolch that want it? Or how many people want to buy GMK dolch and get ISO? Is there demand? Can you fill 150 units?
Please stop.
Giorgio, why do you ask so many people to do this yet, when people ask you to do it, you say there's no way?
I don't think that's fair if you to say Giorgio. As romevi said, you ask others to include it, yet don't take the initiative to do it yourself.
I think my question is pretty fair with the moqs. You know iso has an issue with meeting it as is mate.
In any case, I'll drop it. Hope you find what you're looking for.
Sorry to butt in, but if you wish to talk about numbers, instead of opinions, the 150 MOQ question should either be had for all of the keys in the kit or for none. For example the WKL bottom row is hardly more popular than ISO, and yet you seem to feel that it is perfectly OK for it to be present in any kit. It has been a while since the last GB that made a clear-ish separation for WKL buyers. The latest one being the still ongoing dasher/dancer, and in that one currently ISO has 54 kits sold, while 7U spacebar has been bought by 87. The spacebar set has also an extra 6.25U spacebar, and thus some correction should be added to the 87 spacebar kits sold as some people are buying them just to get the space in mod colour instead of the standard alpha colour. Both (ISO UK and WKL bottom row) have realistically under 10% of people behind them, so unless this set sells more than 1500 units, both should be removed "as they would not reach MOQ on their own".No ISO keys in any kit? I don't know if there's someone else who needs them.
I've discovered that gmk pricing is quite suprising, I mean that once you pass a certain number of keys, they start to become "quite" cheap.
I mean that the 1800 kit could cost for example €20, and adding a numpad kit to the 1800 kit could possibly cost only €7, while the numpad kit alone could cost €15. This isn't an easy problem to address.
It sounds like you should be really inclined to start a GB for it ;). I highly encourage you to do so in order to achieve the most optimized kit pricing for the keys you and your fellow ISO members need.
But the real question is: how many ISO users are there with GMK dolch that want it? Or how many people want to buy GMK dolch and get ISO? Is there demand? Can you fill 150 units?
Please stop.
Giorgio, why do you ask so many people to do this yet, when people ask you to do it, you say there's no way?
I don't think that's fair if you to say Giorgio. As romevi said, you ask others to include it, yet don't take the initiative to do it yourself.
I think my question is pretty fair with the moqs. You know iso has an issue with meeting it as is mate.
In any case, I'll drop it. Hope you find what you're looking for.
Of course the OP can just have whatever keys he likes to have in a set, I'm not denying that and the driving factor should always be the GB leaders vision. Just don't mix numbers with personal need and feelings, thanks!
The kits you mention have the 7U space integrated in them, making the differentiation between WKL bottom row and the rest op the adapter keys, namely the popular short right shift and stepped capslock, impossible. By that logic if the ISO enter would be introduced in the base modifiers kit it would be hugely popular key to have, no? If you check the Dasher/Dancer ratio of adapter kits and 7U spacebars bought and use that ratio on the godspeed adapter kit, you will see that the combined UK+Norde beat the 7U spacebar option in popularity. Same applies for Jukebox. Of course in those buys more people might have bought the adapter kits for the 7U space than is the case in Dasher/Dancer (as no one knows, because of how they are bundled together), but I don't think that the difference is of the magnitude you think.Sorry to butt in, but if you wish to talk about numbers, instead of opinions, the 150 MOQ question should either be had for all of the keys in the kit or for none. For example the WKL bottom row is hardly more popular than ISO, and yet you seem to feel that it is perfectly OK for it to be present in any kit. It has been a while since the last GB that made a clear-ish separation for WKL buyers. The latest one being the still ongoing dasher/dancer, and in that one currently ISO has 54 kits sold, while 7U spacebar has been bought by 87. The spacebar set has also an extra 6.25U spacebar, and thus some correction should be added to the 87 spacebar kits sold as some people are buying them just to get the space in mod colour instead of the standard alpha colour. Both (ISO UK and WKL bottom row) have realistically under 10% of people behind them, so unless this set sells more than 1500 units, both should be removed "as they would not reach MOQ on their own".No ISO keys in any kit? I don't know if there's someone else who needs them.
I've discovered that gmk pricing is quite suprising, I mean that once you pass a certain number of keys, they start to become "quite" cheap.
I mean that the 1800 kit could cost for example €20, and adding a numpad kit to the 1800 kit could possibly cost only €7, while the numpad kit alone could cost €15. This isn't an easy problem to address.
It sounds like you should be really inclined to start a GB for it ;). I highly encourage you to do so in order to achieve the most optimized kit pricing for the keys you and your fellow ISO members need.
But the real question is: how many ISO users are there with GMK dolch that want it? Or how many people want to buy GMK dolch and get ISO? Is there demand? Can you fill 150 units?
Please stop.
Giorgio, why do you ask so many people to do this yet, when people ask you to do it, you say there's no way?
I don't think that's fair if you to say Giorgio. As romevi said, you ask others to include it, yet don't take the initiative to do it yourself.
I think my question is pretty fair with the moqs. You know iso has an issue with meeting it as is mate.
In any case, I'll drop it. Hope you find what you're looking for.
Of course the OP can just have whatever keys he likes to have in a set, I'm not denying that and the driving factor should always be the GB leaders vision. Just don't mix numbers with personal need and feelings, thanks!
Great analysis and perspective. I have seen those numbers, and you are very correct. However, I recommend you see the numbers after the China GB has submitted their numbers. WKL is very popular in China, and are used in a chunk of customs (TKL WKL for example), and more.
But other than that, you do drive one very compelling argument and I can't help but to agree, if we didn't have numbers for other sets such as: Jukebox and Godspeed. You can refer to "TSAFOX" and "NONSTANDARD" for these kits.
In any case, I hope everyone can get the keys they want :).
GODSPEEDShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/godspeed-custom-sa-keycap-set/MD-25045_20161009231101_7161befc124a038a.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=1)
JukeboxShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/jukebox-sa-keyset/MD-18515_20160525121936_b83e4af710f610b7.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=1)
Great analysis and perspective. I have seen those numbers, and you are very correct. However, I recommend you see the numbers after the China GB has submitted their numbers. WKL is very popular in China, and are used in a chunk of customs (TKL WKL for example), and more.
But other than that, you do drive one very compelling argument and I can't help but to agree, if we didn't have numbers for other sets such as: Jukebox and Godspeed. You can refer to "TSAFOX" and "NONSTANDARD" for these kits.
In any case, I hope everyone can get the keys they want :).
GODSPEEDShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/godspeed-custom-sa-keycap-set/MD-25045_20161009231101_7161befc124a038a.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=1)
JukeboxShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/jukebox-sa-keyset/MD-18515_20160525121936_b83e4af710f610b7.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=1)
Great analysis and perspective. I have seen those numbers, and you are very correct. However, I recommend you see the numbers after the China GB has submitted their numbers. WKL is very popular in China, and are used in a chunk of customs (TKL WKL for example), and more.
But other than that, you do drive one very compelling argument and I can't help but to agree, if we didn't have numbers for other sets such as: Jukebox and Godspeed. You can refer to "TSAFOX" and "NONSTANDARD" for these kits.
In any case, I hope everyone can get the keys they want :).
GODSPEEDShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/godspeed-custom-sa-keycap-set/MD-25045_20161009231101_7161befc124a038a.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=1)
JukeboxShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/jukebox-sa-keyset/MD-18515_20160525121936_b83e4af710f610b7.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=1)
Well, take a look at Overcast then, with a minimal ISO kit and a 7u spacebar kit the only way to get a 7u spacebar:Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/mito-dsa-sci-fi/MD-20583_20160629160141_056672855de07e6f.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=1)
I know 44 ISO kits aren't that many compared to 720 total kits, but 20 7u spacebars are even less.
*shrug*
I would also love to see basic ISO compatibility for this as an icon only Dolch is one of my dream sets and I'm currently using only ISO keyboards. But that's my personal preference, and if it's not added then I simply won't buy the set, simple as that.
EDIT: Just to clarify. I can agree that Giorgio can be a little argumentative and provocative sometimes, but I can't see the issue with his comments in this thread. So far he's only asked for including a few more keys to be added to the sets, and mentioned that combining kits can make a better deal than keeping them separate, and the response is "well create your own GB then!". Kinda going overboard don'tcha think?
Great analysis and perspective. I have seen those numbers, and you are very correct. However, I recommend you see the numbers after the China GB has submitted their numbers. WKL is very popular in China, and are used in a chunk of customs (TKL WKL for example), and more.
But other than that, you do drive one very compelling argument and I can't help but to agree, if we didn't have numbers for other sets such as: Jukebox and Godspeed. You can refer to "TSAFOX" and "NONSTANDARD" for these kits.
In any case, I hope everyone can get the keys they want :).
GODSPEEDShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/godspeed-custom-sa-keycap-set/MD-25045_20161009231101_7161befc124a038a.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=1)
JukeboxShow Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/jukebox-sa-keyset/MD-18515_20160525121936_b83e4af710f610b7.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=1)
Well, take a look at Overcast then, with a minimal ISO kit and a 7u spacebar kit the only way to get a 7u spacebar:Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/mito-dsa-sci-fi/MD-20583_20160629160141_056672855de07e6f.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1023&dpr=1)
I know 44 ISO kits aren't that many compared to 720 total kits, but 20 7u spacebars are even less.
*shrug*
I would also love to see basic ISO compatibility for this as an icon only Dolch is one of my dream sets and I'm currently using only ISO keyboards. But that's my personal preference, and if it's not added then I simply won't buy the set, simple as that.
EDIT: Just to clarify. I can agree that Giorgio can be a little argumentative and provocative sometimes, but I can't see the issue with his comments in this thread. So far he's only asked for including a few more keys to be added to the sets, and mentioned that combining kits can make a better deal than keeping them separate, and the response is "well create your own GB then!". Kinda going overboard don'tcha think?
This is a clear and logic post.
They're telling you to make your own gb in 3, 2, 1....
i'm not sure but I think the control keys on row 4 in base set should be "ctrl" instead of "control" but I guess this just a temporary mockup.Some people adapt from ansi to ISO as well. You can ask Ideus for details. No one knows whether you are the next convert ... You can also adapt from WKL to standard bottom row, just don't buy a board that does require it :))
about ISO issue, it always happen to keyset group buy.
In terms of the GB/IC leaders opinion, they need to make it cheapest for ANSI users as they're the majority users.
GB leaders always tried to reduce everything that majority users didn't need, and ISO keys is one of those thing.
ISO users(Minority ) - Why you guys can't pay a little bit more for us.
ANSI users(Majority) - Why do we have to pay for something that we never use.
if ISO users are 20% of group buy, 120 people have to pay at least $5 for the keys that they never use.
that's how you waste $600 for the useless keycaps.
but when you're talking about Winkeyless kit, everyone have a chance to use it.
everyone have a chance to get a Winkeyless keyboard, might be not now but in the future... no one know.
but there's no way that ANSI users gonna have any chance to use ISO keys.
are you fine with a keycap set without WKL kit aren't you?
if you have a keycap set without WKL kit when you got a WKL keyboard, your whole set is useless.
in terms of ISO users you can adapt, because there's no ISO-Only custom keyboard if I remember correctly.
I get it that you don't like ISO and that is fine, just don't try to argue with numbers that are not in your favour. The same amount of, or even more, people want/need/see themselves using the ISO keys than WKL bottom row. Based on the SP kit sales on Massdrop as discussed above.
are you fine with a keycap set without WKL kit aren't you?
if you have a keycap set without WKL kit when you got a WKL keyboard, your whole set is useless.
in terms of ISO users you can adapt, because there's no ISO-Only custom keyboard if I remember correctly.
Based on the feedbacks, added a very basic Dolch Base sets to the IC.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/JYfXbPi.png)
i'm not sure but I think the control keys on row 4 in base set should be "ctrl" instead of "control" but I guess this just a temporary mockup.
about ISO issue, it always happen to keyset group buy.
In terms of the GB/IC leaders opinion, they need to make it cheapest for ANSI users as they're the majority users.
GB leaders always tried to reduce everything that majority users didn't need, and ISO keys is one of those thing.
ISO users(Minority ) - Why you guys can't pay a little bit more for us.
ANSI users(Majority) - Why do we have to pay for something that we never use.
if ISO users are 20% of group buy, 120 people have to pay at least $5 for the keys that they never use.
that's how you waste $600 for the useless keycaps.
but when you're talking about Winkeyless kit, everyone have a chance to use it.
everyone have a chance to get a Winkeyless keyboard, might be not now but in the future... no one know.
but there's no way that ANSI users gonna have any chance to use ISO keys.
are you fine with a keycap set without WKL kit aren't you?
if you have a keycap set without WKL kit when you got a WKL keyboard, your whole set is useless.
in terms of ISO users you can adapt, because there's no ISO-Only custom keyboard if I remember correctly.
but in the small add-on kits or budget keycap sets every penny that higher meant a lot to how interesting they are.IMO in budged sets one should remove the least used keys first, no? Based on actual numbers, instead of your opinions, one can argue that WKL is used less than ISO. So if ISO is to be removed, then WKL should be long gone as well. Even if WKL and ISO would have about the same popularity, ISO is cheaper to add than WKL and should thus be introduced first, no?
I just hope you guys understand why they always cut it off.
Well thanks for making this hobby a more friendly and inclusive community for us all (NOT!)
It may be unfathomable to you, but ISO support is non-trivial to many of us. That's not the correct or healthy attitude to have. If you're dying to have Wkl bottom row, Originative still has Dolch WKL add-on on their site, go get it from there. I'd much rather have iso keys.
I feel like this discussion is starting to derail. But seriously, do you understand how US centric your post is?
Here in Sweden and Nordic Europe there's no WKL board to be found for sale, and ANSI keyboards usually cost double the price of the corresponding ISO variant.
Hence I appreciate when ANSI users show some solidarity and pay $5 (for some keys you can sell, I've bought ISO keys from US users for $10+/set a few times), just as standard bottom row users usually are fine with paying for WKL keys.
Thanks for all the input. :)
I have made some quick adjustment to the Base and the Add On Kits, I hope this will cover most of the popular key caps set by now. :p
What''s your guys opinion on the 1.75u Shift and 1u FN in the Add On Kits, IMO maybe there are some demands on it if their Dolch is harvest from OLD Dolch key caps and wanted a new one, but if those who bought Ivan's or maybe this ICON Dolch, it will be redundant.
What are the colours? Same as here http://keypuller.com/gmk-dolch-replica ?
Would be nice (for me):
1) ISO UK
and/or
2) Dark gray flex kit for F1-F12
Mostly to mix with a Stormtrooper set. I wish it was known whether there is going to be a full proper Dolch coming next year from anyone...
PS: the thread should probably be renamed now as it has some sort of a base kit.
...
I think is also good that I throw in an idea of mine during the Dolch Reborn GB phase, x-CMYW.
The winkey colors are yet to determine yet, what color you think that will fill in blank? :pShow Image(http://imgur.com/UouWqmD.jpg)
I think the sets are pretty much sums up at this point, and I will start getting quote from GMK now.
For those who are interested, please fill in this IC form to let us know what chance does this sets have. :p
https://goo.gl/forms/wkn9KL9AKmTZcVRi2
*Please note that those prices are just an early estimation by me...might be cheaper or expensive. :-X
The reason why I am using the new diamond on the Dolch AddON as Winkey is because I thought it will be more widely accept than win8, but if everyone can accept win8 I will definitely change it to the win8 ICON. :p
The reason why I am using the new diamond on the Dolch AddON as Winkey is because I thought it will be more widely accept than win8I personally like the style of both Win 8/10 and the diamond you're proposing. Furthermore Win95/98 logos are usually pad printed.
Item | Profile | Legend | Size |
1 | C-D | Enter | ISO |
2 | C | `~ | 1 |
3 | B | \| | 1 |
4 | B | Shift | 1.25 |
Item | Profile | Legend | Size |
1 | E | ` ¬ | 1 |
2 | E | 2 " | 1 |
3 | E | 3 £ | 1 |
4 | C | ' @ | 1 |
5 | C | # ~ | 1 |
The second less demanding ISO compatibility option for an US set is implementing an UK layout.
Hi everyone, just back from a long holiday. I will post an update after I wrap the feed backs. :thumb:
Hi everyone, just back from a long holiday. I will post an update after I wrap the feed backs. :thumb:
I think is also good that I throw in an idea of mine during the Dolch Reborn GB phase, x-CMYW.
The winkey colors are yet to determine yet, what color you think that will fill in blank? :pShow Image(http://imgur.com/UouWqmD.jpg)
I am currently thinking on RO2(A new bright red from GMK) and DY (Purple)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lEWynZl.png)
Yes, i am not too fond of the dark red and brown either. Would probably end up not being used.I think is also good that I throw in an idea of mine during the Dolch Reborn GB phase, x-CMYW.
The winkey colors are yet to determine yet, what color you think that will fill in blank?Show Image(http://imgur.com/UouWqmD.jpg)
I am currently thinking on RO2(A new bright red from GMK) and DY (Purple)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lEWynZl.png)
Love the colours aside from the dark brown and dark red windows keys in the top render. The mock-up below with the bright red and purple = must buy. Awesome colours, please make this =]
x3Yes, i am not too fond of the dark red and brown either. Would probably end up not being used.I think is also good that I throw in an idea of mine during the Dolch Reborn GB phase, x-CMYW.
The winkey colors are yet to determine yet, what color you think that will fill in blank?Show Image(http://imgur.com/UouWqmD.jpg)
I am currently thinking on RO2(A new bright red from GMK) and DY (Purple)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/lEWynZl.png)
Love the colours aside from the dark brown and dark red windows keys in the top render. The mock-up below with the bright red and purple = must buy. Awesome colours, please make this =]
Long time no post for me; I originally came for a Dolch set, ended up with red and white (living it up at work), green and white, the commodore set (whose name I forget but which has graced my daily home driver ever since, I love it) and a Clack.
Carried away I didn't get the Dolch! Need the set with ISO (apologies to the thread debaters on this). So am in.
Oooh..there's another thread..Honeywell...pretty. Oh dear. Here we go.
Long time no post for me; I originally came for a Dolch set, ended up with red and white (living it up at work), green and white, the commodore set (whose name I forget but which has graced my daily home driver ever since, I love it) and a Clack.
Carried away I didn't get the Dolch! Need the set with ISO (apologies to the thread debaters on this). So am in.
Oooh..there's another thread..Honeywell...pretty. Oh dear. Here we go.
If you need the ISO, why don't you join the ongoing German GB mentioned on DT?
Long time no post for me; I originally came for a Dolch set, ended up with red and white (living it up at work), green and white, the commodore set (whose name I forget but which has graced my daily home driver ever since, I love it) and a Clack.
Carried away I didn't get the Dolch! Need the set with ISO (apologies to the thread debaters on this). So am in.
Oooh..there's another thread..Honeywell...pretty. Oh dear. Here we go.
If you need the ISO, why don't you join the ongoing German GB mentioned on DT?
That's QWERTz, they could have added a correct z and y
The Final version of the mockup will be as below.Does your dolchi use the same color code as other dolchi? Your title says GMK, but it looks like taihao to me. :rolleyes:
As suggested by Ideus, I have change the ISO to IBM XT Type..I am not really familiar with ISO, if you guys still have any suggestion, feel free to comment below.
1. The Dolch will be using ICON Mod.
2. Dolch Base will be using win8 Icon, while the Dolch AddOn will be using diamond icon.
3. A color pack has been added.
4. x-CMYW will be using new bright Red and purple with win8 and diamond legend respectively.
Dolch BaseShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/PDv7NML.png)
Dolch AddONShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/R11X86h.png)
Dolch Color KitsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/qf8loNe.png)
x-CMYWShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/lEWynZl.png)
Using the Color kits, if you have Sky Dolch/Dolch Reborn Cyan Mod + 9009/Classic Beige, you can get something like:-Show Image(http://ww1.sinaimg.cn/large/0060lm7Tgw1fb5cwbgbidj31kw0zkaso.jpg)
:p
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Does your dolchi use the same color code as other dolchi? Your title says GMK, but it looks like taihao to me. :rolleyes:
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Does your dolchi use the same color code as other dolchi? Your title says GMK, but it looks like taihao to me. :rolleyes:
Yeap~it is actually a copy of Taihao version rebranded to GMK. :cool:
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Does your dolchi use the same color code as other dolchi? Your title says GMK, but it looks like taihao to me. :rolleyes:
Yeap~it is actually a copy of Taihao version rebranded to GMK. :cool:
Am I hearing it clearly..?
So it is not in the traditional classic Dolch colorway, and instead it is a copy of TaiHao's design??
:eek:
Please, please make it a classic GMK Dolch Groupbuy!
I am a little confused now. Is this like a typical or taihao?...
Does your dolchi use the same color code as other dolchi? Your title says GMK, but it looks like taihao to me. :rolleyes:
Yeap~it is actually a copy of Taihao version rebranded to GMK. :cool:
Am I hearing it clearly..?
So it is not in the traditional classic Dolch colorway, and instead it is a copy of TaiHao's design??
:eek:
Please, please make it a classic GMK Dolch Groupbuy!
I think its just kidding
Base color would be N9 CC
I am a little confused now. Is this like a typical or taihao?...
Does your dolchi use the same color code as other dolchi? Your title says GMK, but it looks like taihao to me. :rolleyes:
Yeap~it is actually a copy of Taihao version rebranded to GMK. :cool:
Am I hearing it clearly..?
So it is not in the traditional classic Dolch colorway, and instead it is a copy of TaiHao's design??
:eek:
Please, please make it a classic GMK Dolch Groupbuy!
I think its just kidding
Base color would be N9 CC
i see. i might not be joining then.I am a little confused now. Is this like a typical or taihao?...
Does your dolchi use the same color code as other dolchi? Your title says GMK, but it looks like taihao to me. :rolleyes:
Yeap~it is actually a copy of Taihao version rebranded to GMK. :cool:
Am I hearing it clearly..?
So it is not in the traditional classic Dolch colorway, and instead it is a copy of TaiHao's design??
:eek:
Please, please make it a classic GMK Dolch Groupbuy!
I think its just kidding
Base color would be N9 CC
typical
i see. i might not be joining then.I am a little confused now. Is this like a typical or taihao?...
Does your dolchi use the same color code as other dolchi? Your title says GMK, but it looks like taihao to me. :rolleyes:
Yeap~it is actually a copy of Taihao version rebranded to GMK. :cool:
Am I hearing it clearly..?
So it is not in the traditional classic Dolch colorway, and instead it is a copy of TaiHao's design??
:eek:
Please, please make it a classic GMK Dolch Groupbuy!
I think its just kidding
Base color would be N9 CC
typical
Long time no post for me; I originally came for a Dolch set, ended up with red and white (living it up at work), green and white, the commodore set (whose name I forget but which has graced my daily home driver ever since, I love it) and a Clack.
Carried away I didn't get the Dolch! Need the set with ISO (apologies to the thread debaters on this). So am in.
Oooh..there's another thread..Honeywell...pretty. Oh dear. Here we go.
If you need the ISO, why don't you join the ongoing German GB mentioned on DT?
MoreLong time no post for me; I originally came for a Dolch set, ended up with red and white (living it up at work), green and white, the commodore set (whose name I forget but which has graced my daily home driver ever since, I love it) and a Clack.
Carried away I didn't get the Dolch! Need the set with ISO (apologies to the thread debaters on this). So am in.
Oooh..there's another thread..Honeywell...pretty. Oh dear. Here we go.
If you need the ISO, why don't you join the ongoing German GB mentioned on DT?
Happy to, can someone provide a link?
Only thing my recent GMK Dolch set didn't include which would have been really handy would be a control key the same size as the Caps Lock key (I'm guessing 1.75u R3?). I can't remember if that set included a 1.25 Fn key either, but I'd like both of those before plowing that set on my Pok3r.
I am getting quote from GMK this week. Probably will start at the end of the month if time permits.
I am getting quote from GMK this week. Probably will start at the end of the month if time permits.
I am getting quote from GMK this week. Probably will start at the end of the month if time permits.
Only thing my recent GMK Dolch set didn't include which would have been really handy would be a control key the same size as the Caps Lock key (I'm guessing 1.75u R3?). I can't remember if that set included a 1.25 Fn key either, but I'd like both of those before plowing that set on my Pok3r.
Looks like the add-on kit has both those keys
Hmm, the cyan accent kit adds a nice touch of color and makes the set enticing. Time to finally pick up some Dolch, I guess. :)
I am getting quote from GMK this week. Probably will start at the end of the month if time permits.
There's currently a set being run in Germany. Will this set use some of the same keys?Show Image(https://www.computerbase.de/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=600402&d=1482309118)
Edit
Ugh. What's with GH lately? Sometimes the pics show up fine; other times they don't.
Also, kekkon, will this set use the same side prints as Ivan's did? Would you consider doing the slashed 0s as well?
This is a much healthier Dolch set than Ivan's--meaning it's much more compatible than his set--but the reason I'm hot for Ivan's sets is the icon modifiers (which you've got going), the side prints on some of the keys, and the slashed 0s. I'm surprised we don't see too many of the slashed 0s; I think it looks really neat.
There's currently a set being run in Germany. Will this set use some of the same keys?Show Image(https://www.computerbase.de/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=600402&d=1482309118)
Edit
Ugh. What's with GH lately? Sometimes the pics show up fine; other times they don't.
Also, kekkon, will this set use the same side prints as Ivan's did? Would you consider doing the slashed 0s as well?
This is a much healthier Dolch set than Ivan's--meaning it's much more compatible than his set--but the reason I'm hot for Ivan's sets is the icon modifiers (which you've got going), the side prints on some of the keys, and the slashed 0s. I'm surprised we don't see too many of the slashed 0s; I think it looks really neat.
Let me see what I can do with this.
I have also take a look on the German GB, their Red Color Esc seems pretty neat, maybe I will add a separate Esc Packs. :p
I have got the quotation from GMK, expect to launch the GB in a few days, and leave it until end of February. Hopefully this can make it. :p
Terminal, Dolch ,Soware ,Plum, oh sheeeet :confused:
Terminal, Dolch ,Soware ,Plum, oh sheeeet :confused:
:confused:
Maybe we should get small kits going first and get the full sets on GB. :))
Terminal, Dolch ,Soware ,Plum, oh sheeeet :confused:
:confused:
Maybe we should get small kits going first and get the full sets on GB. :))
Terminal, Dolch ,Soware ,Plum, oh sheeeet :confused:
:confused:
Maybe we should get small kits going first and get the full sets on GB. :))
Terminal, Dolch ,Soware ,Plum, oh sheeeet :confused:
:confused:
Maybe we should get small kits going first and get the full sets on GB. :))
I have got the quotation from GMK, expect to launch the GB in a few days, and leave it until end of February. Hopefully this can make it. :p
I have got the quotation from GMK, expect to launch the GB in a few days, and leave it until end of February. Hopefully this can make it. :p
Do you have an estimated price for the keyset? I'm trying to see if I have enough money for all the groupbuys going on
I have got the quotation from GMK, expect to launch the GB in a few days, and leave it until end of February. Hopefully this can make it. :p
Do you have an estimated price for the keyset? I'm trying to see if I have enough money for all the groupbuys going on
Prioritize, prioritize, prioritize.
There are three standard MX keysets all enthusiasts should have in their arsenal: classic beige, Dolch, and WoB.
I have got the quotation from GMK, expect to launch the GB in a few days, and leave it until end of February. Hopefully this can make it. :p
Do you have an estimated price for the keyset? I'm trying to see if I have enough money for all the groupbuys going on
Prioritize, prioritize, prioritize.
There are three standard MX keysets all enthusiasts should have in their arsenal: classic beige, Dolch, and WoB.
it's a good thing I already have all 3 :))Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BZqaNTF.jpg)
Dolch is my favorite out of the 3, and the set I have is shiny as hell. I just want to stock up on it
I have got the quotation from GMK, expect to launch the GB in a few days, and leave it until end of February. Hopefully this can make it. :p
Do you have an estimated price for the keyset? I'm trying to see if I have enough money for all the groupbuys going on
Prioritize, prioritize, prioritize.
There are three standard MX keysets all enthusiasts should have in their arsenal: classic beige, Dolch, and WoB.
MoreI have got the quotation from GMK, expect to launch the GB in a few days, and leave it until end of February. Hopefully this can make it. :p
Do you have an estimated price for the keyset? I'm trying to see if I have enough money for all the groupbuys going on
Prioritize, prioritize, prioritize.
There are three standard MX keysets all enthusiasts should have in their arsenal: classic beige, Dolch, and WoB.
it's a good thing I already have all 3 :))Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BZqaNTF.jpg)
Dolch is my favorite out of the 3, and the set I have is shiny as hell. I just want to stock up on it
After some planning, here is the kits...some of the kits come with decimal because these are convert from Malaysian Ringgit(MYR), real rates T.B.D by your bank at the payment time.
(All key caps come with trays or shrink wrap.)
Updated Layout (http://imgur.com/a/RbuOi)
1. Dolch Base (w/o spacebars) 122pcs : ±$99
2. Dolch AddON 29pcs : ±$35.30
3. Dolch Color Kits 18pcs : ±$19
4. x-CMYW : ±$45.60
5. CC Spacebars (6.25u + 7u) : ±$5
Color Used:
Dolch : N9, CC, CP, TU2
x-CMYW : TU2, MG1, N6, RO2, N5, AE, DY
I have separate the CC Spacebars from the Base, because I think some people might need extras or those with old dolch set will need them to replace their old shinny spacebars. :))
Estimate shipping cost for those with Big-Trays will be $25 and small kits start from $5, all of these will be calculate again when we sent out the shipping invoices.
After some planning, here is the kits...some of the kits come with decimal because these are convert from Malaysian Ringgit(MYR), real rates T.B.D by your bank at the payment time.
(All key caps come with trays or shrink wrap.)
Updated Layout (http://imgur.com/a/RbuOi)
1. Dolch Base (w/o spacebars) 122pcs : ±$99
2. Dolch AddON 29pcs : ±$35.30
3. Dolch Color Kits 18pcs : ±$19
4. x-CMYW : ±$45.60
5. CC Spacebars (6.25u + 7u) : ±$5
Color Used:
Dolch : N9, CC, CP, TU2
x-CMYW : TU2, MG1, N6, RO2, N5, AE, DY
I have separate the CC Spacebars from the Base, because I think some people might need extras or those with old dolch set will need them to replace their old shinny spacebars. :))
Estimate shipping cost for those with Big-Trays will be $25 and small kits start from $5, all of these will be calculate again when we sent out the shipping invoices.
I'm sure that you've already made your calculations about MOQ and such, I would just like to point out that due to gmk pricing, 1)+2)+5) would cost about $120 instead of the $140 resulting from separating those keys into different kits. Great compatibility and great looking set BTW.
After some planning, here is the kits...some of the kits come with decimal because these are convert from Malaysian Ringgit(MYR), real rates T.B.D by your bank at the payment time.
(All key caps come with trays or shrink wrap.)
Updated Layout (http://imgur.com/a/RbuOi)
1. Dolch Base (w/o spacebars) 122pcs : ±$99
2. Dolch AddON 29pcs : ±$35.30
3. Dolch Color Kits 18pcs : ±$19
4. x-CMYW : ±$45.60
5. CC Spacebars (6.25u + 7u) : ±$5
Color Used:
Dolch : N9, CC, CP, TU2
x-CMYW : TU2, MG1, N6, RO2, N5, AE, DY
I have separate the CC Spacebars from the Base, because I think some people might need extras or those with old dolch set will need them to replace their old shinny spacebars. :))
Estimate shipping cost for those with Big-Trays will be $25 and small kits start from $5, all of these will be calculate again when we sent out the shipping invoices.
I'm sure that you've already made your calculations about MOQ and such, I would just like to point out that due to gmk pricing, 1)+2)+5) would cost about $120 instead of the $140 resulting from separating those keys into different kits. Great compatibility and great looking set BTW.
I am aware of this, but 1800 kits are essential for those who have already own Dolch from previous GB and doesn't need to buy a new dolch just to get one. :))
After some planning, here is the kits...some of the kits come with decimal because these are convert from Malaysian Ringgit(MYR), real rates T.B.D by your bank at the payment time.Looks really good. I am definitely in.
(All key caps come with trays or shrink wrap.)
Updated Layout (http://imgur.com/a/RbuOi)
1. Dolch Base (w/o spacebars) 122pcs : ±$99
2. Dolch AddON 29pcs : ±$35.30
3. Dolch Color Kits 18pcs : ±$19
4. x-CMYW : ±$45.60
5. CC Spacebars (6.25u + 7u) : ±$5
Color Used:
Dolch : N9, CC, CP, TU2
x-CMYW : TU2, MG1, N6, RO2, N5, AE, DY
I have separate the CC Spacebars from the Base, because I think some people might need extras or those with old dolch set will need them to replace their old shinny spacebars. :))
Estimate shipping cost for those with Big-Trays will be $25 and small kits start from $5, all of these will be calculate again when we sent out the shipping invoices.
After some planning, here is the kits...some of the kits come with decimal because these are convert from Malaysian Ringgit(MYR), real rates T.B.D by your bank at the payment time.
(All key caps come with trays or shrink wrap.)
Updated Layout (http://imgur.com/a/RbuOi)
1. Dolch Base (w/o spacebars) 122pcs : ±$99
2. Dolch AddON 29pcs : ±$35.30
3. Dolch Color Kits 18pcs : ±$19
4. x-CMYW : ±$45.60
5. CC Spacebars (6.25u + 7u) : ±$5
Color Used:
Dolch : N9, CC, CP, TU2
x-CMYW : TU2, MG1, N6, RO2, N5, AE, DY
I have separate the CC Spacebars from the Base, because I think some people might need extras or those with old dolch set will need them to replace their old shinny spacebars. :))
Estimate shipping cost for those with Big-Trays will be $25 and small kits start from $5, all of these will be calculate again when we sent out the shipping invoices.
Make this happen before I have a chance to throw my money at any other GMK set :p
Make this happen before I have a chance to throw my money at any other GMK set :p
Yes! This is correct. Kindly expedite the GB process... ;D
why 1u numpad 0 is not crossed like the base kit?
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Is the big Uniqey 'Q' cap a promo one, complimentary from GMK?
why 1u numpad 0 is not crossed like the base kit?
I might have miss them, will update it again. :-X......
Is the big Uniqey 'Q' cap a promo one, complimentary from GMK?
The Uniqey 'Q' is a cap that I have included in all of my previous GB, except 9009 because it doesn't exists by then.
I think is kinda something unique and kind of good looking as a R1 keys, but some say it is ugly, to each of their own I guess.
I have draft a google form for this :-
goo.gl/7xUgmO
(http://goo.gl/7xUgmO)
Please let me know if I have miss anything.
I thought the google form was just a draft and that the GB hasn't start yet..
All the pics are down in the OP
After some planning, here is the kits...some of the kits come with decimal because these are convert from Malaysian Ringgit(MYR), real rates T.B.D by your bank at the payment time.
(All key caps come with trays or shrink wrap.)
Updated Layout (http://imgur.com/a/RbuOi)
1. Dolch Base (w/o spacebars) 122pcs : ±$99
2. Dolch AddON 29pcs : ±$35.30
3. Dolch Color Kits 18pcs : ±$19
4. x-CMYW : ±$45.60
5. CC Spacebars (6.25u + 7u) : ±$5
Color Used:
Dolch : N9, CC, CP, TU2
x-CMYW : TU2, MG1, N6, RO2, N5, AE, DY
I have separate the CC Spacebars from the Base, because I think some people might need extras or those with old dolch set will need them to replace their old shinny spacebars. :))
Estimate shipping cost for those with Big-Trays will be $25 and small kits start from $5, all of these will be calculate again when we sent out the shipping invoices.
This isn't in GB mode yet, is it? Still in IC phase?