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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 07:52:39 »
Dedicated server costs are as follows:

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Believe me...we can NOT run on someone's home internet service.  That would be a nightmare.

We also incur around $150 monthly for our AWS infrastructure...which provides support functions, such as email (including anti-spam, anti-virus), some administrative connectivity, etc. 

It would definitely be helpful if folks would consider a monthly subscription.  We will definitely come up with a cool way to identify those who contribute in this way to the community...


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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 08:37:54 »
I'm about to put in a donation, and just to be clear, do you want them put through the "Donate" button, or direct through PayPal?
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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 08:39:05 »
As soon as I can find a stable job, I'm be setting up a monthly donation.  :)

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 10:23:02 »

I'm about to put in a donation, and just to be clear, do you want them put through the "Donate" button, or direct through PayPal?

Donate button.

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 10:24:20 »
iMav did you get my rather drunken donation from a day or two ago? I used the info from the OP rather than the donate button... due to, reasons

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 10:30:30 »
Updated the OP with where to donate. Sorry about that baldgye

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 10:36:29 »
Let's get special stars for donators, or at least a wall of fame(supporters)
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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 10:37:21 »
Updated the OP with where to donate. Sorry about that baldgye

No worries, if I had been sober I would have used the donate button lol

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 12:19:23 »
What about giving donors the opportunity to have a dollar sign or something by their avatar, similar to the stars or the gears that the makers have?  Giving people the chance to publicly stroke their own ego may encourage more donations.  Just a thought.

Let's get special stars for donators, or at least a wall of fame(supporters)

I'm a little conflicted about this. Your reward is that Geekhack stays running. If you like the site and community, this is the ultimate plus. Not a little star or whatever. Doesn't hurt but it's kinda superfluous in my opinion.

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 12:33:35 »
Yeah, I don't feel like I need a special start to show my monthly donation off.
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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 12:51:52 »
I generally agree with not needing a special icon, or whatever, to show off a donation. However, I also think that while the main reason of providing a donation is to keep GH up and running, the people who do donate are providing this benefit, in a small way, to the entire community. Nothing wrong with bringing attention to that, necessarily. That being said, my reason for donating is not to get any special acknowledgement, and my donation will be there regardless. I'm just saying that I don't see any harm in it.
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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #61 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 12:53:26 »
What about giving donors the opportunity to have a dollar sign or something by their avatar, similar to the stars or the gears that the makers have?  Giving people the chance to publicly stroke their own ego may encourage more donations.  Just a thought.

Let's get special stars for donators, or at least a wall of fame(supporters)

I'm a little conflicted about this. Your reward is that Geekhack stays running. If you like the site and community, this is the ultimate plus. Not a little star or whatever. Doesn't hurt but it's kinda superfluous in my opinion.

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« Reply #62 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 13:11:03 »
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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #63 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 13:18:21 »
Let's get special stars for donators, or at least a wall of fame(supporters)

Are people donating because they like GH or so people can see how generous they are?

Never mind the years of free gh.
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« Reply #64 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 13:26:05 »
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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #65 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 13:55:51 »
$ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $$

Somebody made a huge donation :eek: all praise moose's wallet
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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #67 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 14:04:04 »
$ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $$

Somebody made a huge donation :eek: all praise moose's wallet

Well, I am part of the super elite cool kids club.
Well I'm glad they suggested putting somebody so we can all praise how generous you truly are.
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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #68 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 14:09:36 »

iMav did you get my rather drunken donation from a day or two ago? I used the info from the OP rather than the donate button... due to, reasons

Yep, got it.  Either way is fine.  The donate button is easier, and has the option of one-time or on going donations...

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #69 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 15:31:19 »
Let's get special stars for donators, or at least a wall of fame(supporters)

Are people donating because they like GH or so people can see how generous they are?

Never mind the years of free gh.

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #71 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 18:57:30 »
Maybe it's time to charge the vendors for advertising.    There are quite a few vendors here making a significant portion of their livelihoods off of the site.

Margins on some of the items sold are often nothing short of obscene.
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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #72 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 19:23:41 »
Maybe it's time to charge the vendors for advertising.    There are quite a few vendors here making a significant portion of their livelihoods off of the site.

Margins on some of the items sold are often nothing short of obscene.

That seems like a slippery slope. 

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« Reply #73 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 19:23:52 »
Maybe it's time to charge the vendors for advertising.    There are quite a few vendors here making a significant portion of their livelihoods off of the site.

Margins on some of the items sold are often nothing short of obscene.

start charging per WTB/WTS thread, you'll get way more money.
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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #74 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 19:26:16 »
If ebay can charge 10% per transaction, Geekhack should certainly charge 3%-5%
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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #75 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 19:30:37 »
If ebay can charge 10% per transaction, Geekhack should certainly charge 3%-5%

We can't confirm that a sale did or did not take place.

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #76 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 19:33:06 »
Maybe it's time to charge the vendors for advertising.    There are quite a few vendors here making a significant portion of their livelihoods off of the site.

Margins on some of the items sold are often nothing short of obscene.

That seems like a slippery slope.

The idea inherently is very sound I think. Pulling it off in a way that actually works seems to be quite a bit more difficult though. I feel like it could be very slippery indeed.
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« Reply #77 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 19:36:08 »
5 dollars per thread, 1 dollar per bump.


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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #78 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 19:39:03 »
Maybe it's time to charge the vendors for advertising.    There are quite a few vendors here making a significant portion of their livelihoods off of the site.

Margins on some of the items sold are often nothing short of obscene.
By vendors do you mean artisans?

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #79 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 20:18:48 »
Bronze-level subscription  :)

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #80 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 20:21:59 »
Maybe it's time to charge the vendors for advertising.    There are quite a few vendors here making a significant portion of their livelihoods off of the site.

Margins on some of the items sold are often nothing short of obscene.
By vendors do you mean artisans?

I would think most artisan makers do their hobbies on the side (except for maybe GON and a few others, if I'm wrong, let me know). I think Tiramisuu is referring to websites like mechanicalkeyboards.com and the like.

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #81 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 21:24:40 »
Maybe it's time to charge the vendors for advertising.    There are quite a few vendors here making a significant portion of their livelihoods off of the site.

Margins on some of the items sold are often nothing short of obscene.
By vendors do you mean artisans?

I would think most artisan makers do their hobbies on the side (except for maybe GON and a few others, if I'm wrong, let me know). I think Tiramisuu is referring to websites like mechanicalkeyboards.com and the like.

It gets hairy though.  How do you define a vendor?  Is it just anyone who isn't making and selling their own product?  Are you just going to start taxing those who appear to make over a certain amount of money through the site?  That seems difficult to regulate.  The bigger problem is it might urge up-and-coming moneymakers to keep things small or to fake being small to slip under the payment radar.  You would really create two classes of users.  Those who are paying the site to advertise wares, and the cattle that keep them fed.  It might seem a reasonable compromise to create ad space which can be purchased by vendors.  I don't think that is sustainable without being annoying.  The profitable portions of the keyboard community are fad based, and when they fade, the site may resort to pulling ads from outside the community.  I can't speak for everyone, but ads really annoy me. 

The forum should stay open as a place for all types of keyboard weirdness to occur.  The fact that this board is Artisan heavy is a function of the desires of the user base enjoying it.  This is the culture of the group.  Similarly, the users on Deskthority seem to focus on more vintage keyboards simply because that is the culture that happens to be thriving there.  If it is possible, running as a donation based site is, in my singular opinion, the best option.  The users are passionate enough to 'buy-in' to the well-being of their community.  If this fades, one would expect the site traffic to decrease with it, lessening the need for more expensive hosting. 

My recommendation would be to encourage users to donate to keep the site afloat.  The vendors and artisans that rely on this site have a vested interest to keep it running smoothly - and they will hopefully contribute accordingly.  By providing token rewards (which avoid dividing the community into haves and have-nots, but that is another wall of text for another time) and keeping the communication lines open between the users and the administration, the site stays alive and the users become more knit into the health of the forum.

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #82 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 21:50:43 »
How do you define a vendor?

This is actually fairly well-defined from the perspective of GH staff.  Artisan vs vendor can sometimes be blurry lines, but we do already separate the two groups distinctly.

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #83 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 21:57:38 »
I'll donate via the button when I get a chance.

From this point forward I think encouraging GB organizers to include a few bucks GH donation per participant would be healthy. Obviously as a function of the entry price.

Maybe even encouraging classified users to say "price is $30 + $3 donation" or something.
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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #84 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 21:58:19 »
There will be no mandatory fees regarding GH usage.  With donations (one time and reoccurring subscriptions) we will find a way to thank and identify those members.  Maybe even have some benefit for contributors...

But no mandatory fees/kick backs/etc. 

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« Reply #85 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 22:15:40 »
Has there been any consideration into a Members area? A lot of forums do this, and you pay a fee to gain access. The only issue I see with "flair" is that there is a lot of people who are not always active. So something that doesn't really benefit them.

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #86 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 23:39:46 »
How do you define a vendor?

This is actually fairly well-defined from the perspective of GH staff.  Artisan vs vendor can sometimes be blurry lines, but we do already separate the two groups distinctly.

I'll donate via the button when I get a chance.

From this point forward I think encouraging GB organizers to include a few bucks GH donation per participant would be healthy. Obviously as a function of the entry price.

Maybe even encouraging classified users to say "price is $30 + $3 donation" or something.

There will be no mandatory fees regarding GH usage.  With donations (one time and reoccurring subscriptions) we will find a way to thank and identify those members.  Maybe even have some benefit for contributors...

But no mandatory fees/kick backs/etc.

Yeah, I hope I didn't ruffle any feathers with my little diatribe there.  I just thought it would be better to voice that opinion now rather than later.  Strong beer also turns me into a mini-economist.

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #87 on: Fri, 10 July 2015, 23:40:04 »
You're posting in the members area right now

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #88 on: Sat, 11 July 2015, 02:49:40 »

Yeah, I hope I didn't ruffle any feathers with my little diatribe there.  I just thought it would be better to voice that opinion now rather than later.  Strong beer also turns me into a mini-economist.

No feathers ruffled here. I appreciate all the input and discussion.  I think it would be great to see group buys, vendors, etc help support the community.  I'd just rather they do so on their own and not be forced to.

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #89 on: Sat, 11 July 2015, 03:20:57 »
This is a keyboard forum right? Why not produce a key cap that corresponds with a donation value. For example $25=Purple $50=Green $150=Pink etc. Slap GH 2015 or something on it and mix up the colours and writing next year. Send them out once a month to reduce the PITA postage trips. Alternatively put fun for all pictures/words/faces etc on them. Essentially the worlds most expensive group buy. You know what would be a good starting GB, a Hapster to kick it off.

That would be pretty cool but of course you would need someone to sacrifice their time and effort to keep the cogs turning and in that respect a donate button is probably the least complicated.


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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #90 on: Sat, 11 July 2015, 06:41:13 »
Actually not a bad idea (keycap idea).

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #91 on: Sat, 11 July 2015, 11:50:36 »
Actually not a bad idea (keycap idea).

Yeah, that is actually a really cool idea.
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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #92 on: Sun, 12 July 2015, 10:00:36 »
I will be selling hand-screened T-shirts and will donate $5 of each sale to this fund.

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #93 on: Sun, 12 July 2015, 14:26:46 »
Dedicated server costs are as follows:

$240/mo for server
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Believe me...we can NOT run on someone's home internet service.  That would be a nightmare.

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #94 on: Sun, 12 July 2015, 14:49:09 »
I'm considering running another t-shirt buy myself. I'll have a sale as well coming shortly.

How about getting the artists of GH to design new shirts? Making threads where users can post specific ideas etc.

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #95 on: Sun, 12 July 2015, 16:59:27 »
How about getting the artists of GH to design new shirts?

My shirts are not intended to compete with or short-circuit any "official" Geekhack shirts.

They are one-off, hand-made on the kitchen counter, individual pieces made on a very small scale.
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« Reply #96 on: Sun, 12 July 2015, 17:05:49 »
Just put in for the monthly silver.  I hope others will follow.  Constantly having to rally support for a donation shirt/cap/karma would get a bit tedious.  Strike while the iron is hot, before everyone forgets the outage.

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« Reply #97 on: Wed, 15 July 2015, 12:22:00 »
Just saw this thread! I'm setting up a monthly donation, but I'll do a one-time as well because I want in on that sweet, sweet @geekhack.org email action.

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #98 on: Wed, 15 July 2015, 12:41:45 »
GH email addresses are pretty awesome.  :)

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Re: Public Service Announcement - Geekhack Needs Your Donations! $$$$
« Reply #99 on: Wed, 15 July 2015, 13:03:36 »
GH email addresses are pretty awesome.  :)

Indeed they are, I hope the offer's still there next month!
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