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geekhack Marketplace => Vendor Forums => The Keyboard Company => Topic started by: Bruce on Wed, 23 June 2010, 07:16:43
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Hi All.
We now have a tentative delivery date of Mid August 2010 for Filco Majestouch 105 in the following varieties.
Swedish/Finnish
German
French
Italian.
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All of those are Colemak layouts, I take it? :þ
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\o/
Any plan of having those in tenkeyless as well someday ?
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Nice, thanks for the update :) It will be nice to finally have a real keyboard at work
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Any plan of having those in tenkeyless as well someday ?
Seconding this.
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Tenkeyless in UK, French, German and Scandinavian is my current project.
My wheels are in motion - It is happening - most definitely.
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And what about spanish? Is posible? The layout is the same...
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I'd buy a Spanish Majestouch 105 right now.
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Hi you guys in Sapin.
Congratulations on the football. Very well played.
We will eventually be covering all languages but it will takes some time i'm afraid.
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Come on, sort out the Filco Tenkeyless UK before I lose patience and buy a Das 105.
The european vendor for Das have a preliminary date of September 2010 for the new Das S Professional in UK layout without the media key, my money goes to the 1st supplier with goods available between Filco Tenkeyless UK or Das 105 Pro S UK
Never mind the waffle, get it sorted.
Regards
Dirty Bint
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What's a preliminary date?
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Come on, sort out the Filco Tenkeyless UK before I lose patience and buy a Das 105.
Uh...
You want a Filco Tenkeyless, or you'll take a DAS 105 ?!
It's the lack of tenkeyless in other brands that makes you want Filco's, I guess ?
Else that doesn't make much sense.
Bruce, any idea when your wheels will reach their destination(s) ?
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What's a preliminary date?
Collins English Dictionary - "Preliminary":
"An eliminating contest held before the main event or competition"
In other words, they will be there before you.
It is nice to see that the sycophantic chum boys are present, your support for your friend the Keyboard Company is admirable.
I would prefer to spend my dosh with Bruce's outfit as it is English and it keeps my money in the UK, however, if the UK vendor does not have the product I wish for then overseas to Germany it is, even though they knocked us out of the World Cup.
Come on Bruce, these white fivers are burning a hole in my pocket, bint on, bint on !!
Regards
Dirty Bint
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Collins English Dictionary - "Preliminary":
"An eliminating contest held before the main event or competition"...
Or in other words "held before the main event"
or, they have a day, when they might have an idea when they will get told what day they can expect...
Also ch_123 :D
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It is nice to see that the sycophantic chum boys are present, your support for your friend the Keyboard Company is admirable.
I'd rather be sycophantic that an ass (see what I did there ?), but to each his own.
Now show me any other company that propose (or *will* propose) quality french mechanical keyboards, and I might shift my interest.
I'm not saying there's none, but at least I didn't find one, so for the time being I'll keep on supporting KeyboardCo, mind you.
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Hi All.
We now have a tentative delivery date of Mid August 2010 for Filco Majestouch 105 in the following varieties.
Swedish/Finnish
German
French
Italian.
Yes, please. :)
A tenkeyless would be better but in the meantime...
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I would be more interested in a blank tenkeyless ISO layout than Swedish legends.
.... but those circles on the Meta keys are too much of an eye-sore either way.
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Tenkeyless swedish would be so awesome. I would order one immediately.
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Come on, sort out the Filco Tenkeyless UK before I lose patience and buy a Das 105.
Don't jump!, wait for the filco.
IMO, the US layout has the edge with the enter key that little bit closer to the home keys. I've just pulled the trigger on a new unicomp and went for the US layout even though the UK was available at the same price.
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Don't jump!, wait for the filco.
IMO, the US layout has the edge with the enter key that little bit closer to the home keys. I've just pulled the trigger on a new unicomp and went for the US layout even though the UK was available at the same price.
I need the UK layout as I need the £ symbol and the € symbol in readily accessible keystrokes. If there was a simple option to activate these symbols on a US layout keyboard I would go for it.
Rgds
Dirty Bint
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Here you go. (http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=98337&postcount=26)
Alt-Gr + 5 = Euro
Alt-Gr + 4 = Pound
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Are those built in to the keyboard?
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I assume that the Filco keyboards all use standard PS/2 and USB/HID protocols.
Then the Alt Gr - combinations are all in software on the host.
Most keyboards don't know anything about key combinations at all, or even about which character comes out when you press which key. The keyboard produces a scan-code for each key that is pressed.
The operating system uses a keymap to convert scan-codes and combinations of scan-codes into key-codes and unicode character codes.
You can change keymap in a operating system's "keyboard settings" or "language settings". Most of the times, when the operating system is installed, the user selects his country and language, and the keymap is assigned based on that information. This selection becomes the default selection for all new users after that.
I think that both Windows and MacOS comes with menu bar / tray apps for changing keymap on the fly. For instance, I have worked with a programmer who uses that regularly to swap between US/English and Swedish keymaps with the same keyboard. He uses US/English keymap when programming (because the most popular programming language are better suited for US/English key layout) and Swedish/Finnish keymap when writing text in Swedish.
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I know that at work, there was a Spanish keyboard on one machine and I had to install a driver for it in order to get the special n~ key and a few others work properly.
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Hi All.
We now have a tentative delivery date of Mid August 2010 for Filco Majestouch 105 in the following varieties.
Swedish/Finnish
German
French
Italian.
What means a "tentative delivery" in terms of disposability for consumers? I'm impatiently interested in a Majestouch 105 in German with brown switches. Will there be a possibility to purchase them Mid August over the webpage of keyboardco.com ?
Thanks
Chris
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Now if I just could get my self justify 140€ on keyboard, and to choose between browns and blues...
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Hi All.
The 105 Majestouch Euro Models are on a ship due to dock in the UK on 17 August. So all on schedule for the end of August.
They'll only go live on http://www.keyboardco.com once they arrive with us but if you want to pre-order drop me an email.
Bruce.
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Does that include Spanish, Bruce?
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Hi Mart.
Welcome..
No. It's these layouts in the shipment:-
Swedish/Finnish
German
French
Italian.
Spanish is going to be some time I think.
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Hey Bruce good work on getting those keyboards to europe.
Any idea if/when you guys will be offering danish versions? I think it's a little bit different from the swedish ones.
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Hey Bruce good work on getting those keyboards to europe.
Any idea if/when you guys will be offering danish versions? I think it's a little bit different from the swedish ones.
Yep Ö and Ä after L and \ | in different places also § ½ swaped for some reason... Think thouse are all differences...
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Hi Moby.
Welcome to Geekhack.
Sorry but I don't think we'll be considering any further layouts until next year. I need to see some comeback on these ones first :-/
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I'm leaving for holidays today, so too late to send a preorder mail, but one of the first things I'll do when coming back is definitly getting one of these beauties! Great news that they are not delayed :)
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Hi
Our carriers have told me today that this shipment will be with us on Friday
(20 August 2010)
Have added the parts today for ordering on keyboardco.com (http://keyboardco.com)
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Hi
Our carriers have told me today that this shipment will be with us on Friday
(20 August 2010)
Have added the parts today for ordering on keyboardco.com (http://keyboardco.com)
Good now I only need to drag myself over the price and order one...
Good that finaly an option is available.
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Hey Bruce,
I bought a Filco keyboard from The Keyboard Company about a month ago. It's got a UK layout, which is the same as Swedish except for the lettering on some of the caps. I was wondering if it would be possible to buy replacement caps for Swedish or other language layouts?
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Hi Pipedream.
Welcome to Geekhack.
I think I can work something out on that. A bit of swapping around and we can have a 105 'Otaku' and a set of spares.
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Now working on one of these for a week, thanks Bruce for allowing this! And for people who hesitate, I say go for it, a great great keyboard with your local layout is finally possible :)
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Tenkeyless in UK, French, German and Scandinavian is my current project.
My wheels are in motion - It is happening - most definitely.
Hello,
Is it possible to get any information or clues when the tenkeleyss models will be available? Is it on schedule to happen still this year?
I could get a 105 now, but would regret the purchase really much if a tenkeyless version came available in a couple of months..
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Hi RON1
Welcome to Geekhack.
It's looking like January next year for the Tenkeyless now i'm afraid.
I am sorry, with hindsight I should have got on the case much earlier, we didn't realise how long it would take to get the ISO format made up.
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Hi RON1
Welcome to Geekhack.
It's looking like next year for the Tenkeyless now i'm afraid.
I am sorry, with hindsight I should have got on the case much earlier, we didn't realise how long it would take to get the ISO format made up.
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Thanks for the fast answer. Now I got a hard situation, to wait or not, and my fingers are itching to type with something nice. :)
Its awesome that you are getting euro layouts made and more options for us, thanks for that.
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That should pretty much sum it all up, everything works and is there, few unlegended charaters which aren't in mapping, but I don't even need those. First impression of this keyboard(Swedish/Finnish tactile 105-Filco) is pretty solid.
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It's looking like January next year for the Tenkeyless now i'm afraid.
Will this include the cherry black version? I was thinking of getting a setup with the alphabetical keycaps blank plus the blue WADS and red ESC, since i use both dvorak and qwerty (witch makes printing on the caps confusing :p ) Would it be possible for you to exchange the keycaps so i can save a bit on the shipping? Also, are the custom keycaps the same size and feel as the standard ones?
Thanks :)
Johan, Sweden
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Hello
Another Swede here, just wanted to let you know there are plenty of us whanting the tenkeyless swe/fin version :)
If I could file a preorder on 2 of theese I would.
Thanks for offering this :)
I "cant" wait.
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Another Swede here, just wanted to let you know there are plenty of us whanting the tenkeyless swe/fin version :)
Indeed, I am trying as best I can to convert my unenlighted rubber dome using friends. :)
I'd like to add, if this wasn't clear in my previous post, that if I get the setup I mentioned I wouldn't be needing the swe/fin edition, just an EU layout with cherry black. But eventual friends I might successfully convert would probably prefer swedish printing. ^^
edit: I made a crappy photoshop of how I want it to look, except the image is of a US keyboard.
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q122/Blakkness/kb2.jpg)
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Hi Sefira
Welcome to geekhack.
The Swede/Finn models will arrive at the same time as the others so you can chose.
You're right. We find the majority of people are much happier with the layout they're familiar with. I am too - although I am using a USA Tenkeyless right now as it's all I've got.
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I am using a USA Tenkeyless right now as it's all I've got.
No keyboard left at the Keyboard Company ?
That's a bit frightening :wink:
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I can't type on a UK board any more. The horizontal enter key is just painful for my little finger. And some even have a single width backspace. Horrible.
US layout FTW!
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Hey, hey! Look who's back! What's going on Lam?
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Hey man. Good to see you :)
Lots going on. Fingers crossed it all stays together for a bit :)
XX
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I need the UK layout as I need the £ symbol and the € symbol in readily accessible keystrokes. If there was a simple option to activate these symbols on a US layout keyboard I would go for it.
Rgds
Dirty Bint
You can still use those, just set the keyboard layout in the OS of your choise to English UK. The symbols on the keys themselves won't match what is printed on the screen but why look down anyway? :)
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That's what I do. I have @ next to enter and " on 2. £ is on 3 and I don't know where hash is. Never used it!
The US physical layout is just so much more comfortable. The HH is even better with the lower BS key. And Control has to be next to A!
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#### its above enter.
So where is forward slash? Numpad I guess.
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Hi Sefira
Welcome to geekhack.
The Swede/Finn models will arrive at the same time as the others so you can chose.
You're right. We find the majority of people are much happier with the layout they're familiar with. I am too - although I am using a USA Tenkeyless right now as it's all I've got.
Okay, nice. But about the custom keycaps, how are they compared to the standard ones?
No keyboard left at the Keyboard Company ?
That's a bit frightening :wink:
I have to agree there :p
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Hi Sefira
Okay, nice. But about the custom keycaps, how are they compared to the standard ones?
It's not a custom job, these are proper Filco, they'll have the usual keys, just laid out European style.
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waiting for a tenkeyless filco brown too! a friend of mine either
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So you already sold all SW/FIs? I'm bit suprised, but true there isn't many other options for SW/FI-layout...
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Tenkeyless in UK, French, German and Scandinavian is my current project.
My wheels are in motion - It is happening - most definitely.
Hi Bruce.
First of all im new in hear so bear with me if there is some info im missing here...
Will you be having Filco Keyboard with danish layout, and if so any ETA?
I am fully aware of the slight difference between finnish/swe layout and the danish, but considering the amount to pay for it, you certainly do want to get fully satisfied.
EDIT: did not see another similar post asking exact same question...though I am looking forward for the filco danish layout!!!! ^^
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Hi Dxong.
Welcome to Geekhack.
Danish layout will be a little time i'm afraid. It is one of the layouts we want to have but I can't really see it happening until the 2nd half of 2011.
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Thank you Bruce.
Im not sure I am willing to pain myself for that long, might have to go with swe/finnish layout, however if or when the time comes where you get those neaty boards with danish layout, will it be possible to perhaps buy certain key letters to complete a danish layout keyboard?
I do have two last question.
Looking upon the pictures with the swe/finnish layout seen on the link below
http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_big.asp?PRODUCT=753
the key letter on right side of numlock has a "plus + " inscription, is that a misprint because it should be "slash / " if I remember correctly
Do the red escape key come along upon buying the keyboards or do you have to buy them as accessory?
Thank you again
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the key letter on right side of numlock has a "plus + " inscription, is that a misprint because it should be "slash / " if I remember correctly
It is an Obelus, not a plus sign.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelus)
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Thank you Bruce.
Im not sure I am willing to pain myself for that long, might have to go with swe/finnish layout, however if or when the time comes where you get those neaty boards with danish layout, will it be possible to perhaps buy certain key letters to complete a danish layout keyboard?
I do have two last question.
Looking upon the pictures with the swe/finnish layout seen on the link below
http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_big.asp?PRODUCT=753
the key letter on right side of numlock has a "plus + " inscription, is that a misprint because it should be "slash / " if I remember correctly
Do the red escape key come along upon buying the keyboards or do you have to buy them as accessory?
Thank you again
Yeah, didn't notice that one, but yeah it's the "division"-sing. Still works as / no red escape key, just USB->PS/2 adapter.
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thank you for the replies both of you.
I am gonna buy it for sure then, regardless of the language inscriptions on the keys. However I just hope I can buy certain keycaps to fulfill a danish layout, it has to be perfect!
Last obstacle before purchasing it is what switches I should get between blue and browns, though the reason why I want a mechanical keyboard is first of all the nostalgic feeling and especially the clicky sound, and the great experience from typing on mech board. The blue switches might be an annoyance so im opted for browns...
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thank you for the replies both of you.
I am gonna buy it for sure then, regardless of the language inscriptions on the keys. However I just hope I can buy certain keycaps to fulfill a danish layout, it has to be perfect!
Last obstacle before purchasing it is what switches I should get between blue and browns, though the reason why I want a mechanical keyboard is first of all the nostalgic feeling and especially the clicky sound, and the great experience from typing on mech board. The blue switches might be an annoyance so im opted for browns...
I'm not looking for any nostalgic feelings from my blues and I love the sound :thumb:
If there would be any time I'd want to cover the sound, I'd wear headphones and listen to some music, but the click from mx blues has become my music.
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thank you for the replies both of you.
I am gonna buy it for sure then, regardless of the language inscriptions on the keys. However I just hope I can buy certain keycaps to fulfill a danish layout, it has to be perfect!
Last obstacle before purchasing it is what switches I should get between blue and browns, though the reason why I want a mechanical keyboard is first of all the nostalgic feeling and especially the clicky sound, and the great experience from typing on mech board. The blue switches might be an annoyance so im opted for browns...
I had the same goal when buying my first mechanical keyboard back then. I was very disappointed when I got the browns and could barely tell a difference. I expected too much.
If you want the real "whoa, thats what I was looking for", go with the blues.
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I had the same goal when buying my first mechanical keyboard back then. I was very disappointed when I got the browns and could barely tell a difference. I expected too much.
If you want the real "whoa, thats what I was looking for", go with the blues.
I'm getting more suprised with browns every day, BS was bit of meh... RDs are nothing like the browns.
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Tenkeyless swedish would be so awesome. I would order one immediately.
+1 on that.
I am too looking for tenkeyless fin/(swe), just can't find any. Sure there are bunch of 105-key mechanical boards but sadly on my desk the space is limited :(
<-- pic shows my sad Topre which gets to be slightly tilted in a narrow space
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Hi nasse
We are still looking good for February.
That's Tenkeyless UK, French, German and Swe/Fin
I know it's a long wait - Sorry.
Bruce
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Better late than never!
I'm really looking forward on those.
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Are you accepting preorders for those EU tenkeyless Filcos?
Wouldn't want to miss out on the first batch you guys get because some maniac want's to decorate his wall with a bunch of Filcos.
I'd assume we're talking about black Filcos right?
White tenkeyless with EU layout would be way too awesome.
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Are you accepting preorders for those EU tenkeyless Filcos?
We will be adding them to keyboardco.com very soon.
Then it will be possible to pre-order.
Black only for now.
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Same questions over and over again - same here actually just today via mail re a German Filco Ten-Keyless :angel:. I just wanted to take the time to say a big thanks to Bruce for taking his time and to literally be responding within minutes (to the same old question as I come to realize now from the thread over here).
I cannot wait to preorder (let alone receive) mine* and will prolly keep refreshing the site every 2 minutes from now. :tongue:
Really nice folk at Diatec as well by the way. At least to me that also plays a role in the buying decision. Big thumbs up there.
* A 88 Ten-keyless German with brown switches being the object of desire.
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They're on there now!
Orders coming in already.
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*Preordered* :thumb:
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Hey Bruce. I know this is the EU layout thread, but do you happen to have any idea if you'll be stocking the 87-key ANSI layout Filcos any time soon?
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Hi db
We got some nice Brown Switch ones in about 2 weeks.
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I was hoping for blues. If you'll stock them in a few months I think I can wait. I might have to "settle" for the SWE/FI if you stock those before the ANSI ones.
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I think Blues might be in the shipment.
If not they will be on order.
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Will there be Tenkeyless FI/SWE with Cherry MX blacks? It's not on preorder list :shocked:
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Will there be Tenkeyless FI/SWE with Cherry MX blacks?
Yes.
What I did was got a mix of languages and switches such that if we have to we can make more combinations by swapping over keysets so if I judged it right we'll be good for Black Switch 88TKL Swe/Fin.
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Hey Bruce. Do/will you have white Filco (http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_big.asp?PRODUCT=693) with danish/swedish/europe keys?
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Is possible to buy a 88 FIlco iso tenkeyless...but with spanish keys???
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Hi ohm-ish
Welcome! Your cat looks comfortable there! The Whites have only been made in ASNI so we can't make them into ISO layouts. Sorry.
Javifest. Sorry but we have no Spanish keysets to do that with.
Bruce
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Just wanted to ask if there is ISO-layout(/s) with MX Reds available, in anytime future?
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That same question puzzles me too :D
http://geekhack.org/showpost.php?p=307018&postcount=35
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Hi Guys.
Sorry, my responses are slow this week, been spending a bit of quality time.
The answer is yes, but I really don't know when at this stage.
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Those are fantastic news Bruce !
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Hi Bruce,
Any idea when FI/SWE layouted tenkeyless keyboards with brown switches will be available again? The website says they're out of stock :(
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Hi Bruce,
Any idea when FI/SWE layouted tenkeyless keyboards with brown switches will be available again? The website says they're out of stock :(
Or normal FI/SWE with blues?
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Hi Elos.
We have Full size on a ship right now - due about 4 weeks. The Tenkeyless is a few weeks behind that, but not a confirmed date right now.
We do have a few Full Size FI/SWE with Browns right now.
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Hi Bruce,
The second half of 2011 is coming soon, any news on the spanish layouts? full or tenkeyless would do, afteralls, spanish of one of the top 5 languages spoke in the world, and the layout is the same to most europeans, just the keycaps is the thing. BTW, when will you guys get new blank 105key layout(UK) filco keycaps at sale? and sorry for so many questions, but lastly, why if I want to get a keyboard shipped to Bolivia, South America I can set the shipping to the cheapest one, but if I add anything else, if it's more than 1 item(keycaps or keycaps puller) it forces me to pick a higher priced shippment option? the difference between them is so high that having 2 orders separate is cheaper for me.
Thanks a lot for your answer!