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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #50 on: Tue, 28 September 2010, 07:44:15 »
Hey, hey!  Look who's back!  What's going on Lam?


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« Reply #51 on: Tue, 28 September 2010, 07:48:32 »
Hey man. Good to see you :)
Lots going on. Fingers crossed it all stays together for a bit :)
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« Reply #52 on: Fri, 01 October 2010, 06:35:10 »
Quote from: Dirty Bint;206177
I need the UK layout as I need the £ symbol and the € symbol in readily accessible keystrokes. If there was a simple option to activate these symbols on a US layout keyboard I would go for it.


Rgds
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You can still use those, just set the keyboard layout in the OS of your choise to English UK. The symbols on the keys themselves won't match what is printed on the screen but why look down anyway? :)

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« Reply #53 on: Fri, 01 October 2010, 12:03:57 »
That's what I do. I have @ next to enter and " on 2. £ is on 3 and I don't know where hash is. Never used it!
The US physical layout is just so much more comfortable. The HH is even better with the lower BS key. And Control has to be next to A!
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« Reply #54 on: Fri, 01 October 2010, 12:40:37 »
#### its above enter.
So where is forward slash? Numpad I guess.
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« Reply #55 on: Wed, 06 October 2010, 09:02:49 »
Quote from: Bruce;223301
Hi Sefira

Welcome to geekhack.
The Swede/Finn models will arrive at the same time as the others so you can chose.
You're right. We find the majority of people are much happier with the layout they're familiar with. I am too - although I am using a USA Tenkeyless right now as it's all I've got.


Okay, nice. But about the custom keycaps, how are they compared to the standard ones?

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No keyboard left at the Keyboard Company ?
That's a bit frightening :wink:


I have to agree there :p
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« Reply #56 on: Thu, 07 October 2010, 14:36:23 »
Hi Sefira

Quote

Okay, nice. But about the custom keycaps, how are they compared to the standard ones?


It's not a custom job, these are proper Filco, they'll have the usual keys, just laid out European style.

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« Reply #57 on: Fri, 15 October 2010, 04:59:08 »
waiting for a tenkeyless filco brown too! a friend of mine either

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« Reply #58 on: Fri, 15 October 2010, 07:38:00 »
So you already sold all SW/FIs? I'm bit suprised, but true there isn't many other options for SW/FI-layout...
So I should add something useless here yes? Ok, ok...
Filco 105-key NKRO MX Browns Sw/Fi-layout|IBM Model M 1394545 Lexmark 102-key Finnish-layout 1994-03-22|Cherry G80-3000LQCDE-2 with MX CLEAR
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Dell AT102W(105-key SF) (Black ALPS)|Steelseries Steelkeys 6G(MX Black) ISO-FI-layout|Cherry G84-4400 G84-4700 Cherry MLs

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« Reply #59 on: Mon, 08 November 2010, 07:34:11 »
Quote from: Bruce;201866
Tenkeyless in UK, French, German and Scandinavian is my current project.
My wheels are in motion - It is happening - most definitely.

Hi Bruce.

First of all im new in hear so bear with me if there is some info im missing here...

Will you be having Filco Keyboard with danish layout, and if so any ETA?

I am fully aware of the slight difference between finnish/swe layout and the danish, but considering the amount to pay for it, you certainly do want to get fully satisfied.

EDIT: did not see another similar post asking exact same question...though I am looking forward for the filco danish layout!!!! ^^
« Last Edit: Mon, 08 November 2010, 09:15:58 by dxong »

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« Reply #60 on: Mon, 08 November 2010, 15:27:33 »
Hi Dxong.

Welcome to Geekhack.

Danish layout will be a little time i'm afraid. It is one of the layouts we want to have but I can't really see it happening until the 2nd half of 2011.

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« Reply #61 on: Mon, 08 November 2010, 17:23:34 »
Thank you Bruce.

Im not sure I am willing to pain myself for that long, might have to go with swe/finnish layout, however if or when the time comes where you get those neaty boards with danish layout, will it be possible to perhaps buy certain key letters to complete a danish layout keyboard?

I do have two last question.

Looking upon the pictures with the swe/finnish layout seen on the link below

http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_big.asp?PRODUCT=753

the key letter on right side of numlock has a "plus + " inscription, is that a misprint because it should be "slash / " if I remember correctly

Do the red escape key come along upon buying the keyboards or do you have to buy them as accessory?

Thank you again

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« Reply #62 on: Mon, 08 November 2010, 21:24:16 »
Quote from: dxong
the key letter on right side of numlock has a "plus + " inscription, is that a misprint because it should be "slash / " if I remember correctly

It is an Obelus, not a plus sign.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obelus

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« Reply #63 on: Tue, 09 November 2010, 10:12:30 »
Quote from: dxong;244435
Thank you Bruce.

Im not sure I am willing to pain myself for that long, might have to go with swe/finnish layout, however if or when the time comes where you get those neaty boards with danish layout, will it be possible to perhaps buy certain key letters to complete a danish layout keyboard?

I do have two last question.

Looking upon the pictures with the swe/finnish layout seen on the link below

http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_big.asp?PRODUCT=753

the key letter on right side of numlock has a "plus + " inscription, is that a misprint because it should be "slash / " if I remember correctly

Do the red escape key come along upon buying the keyboards or do you have to buy them as accessory?

Thank you again


Yeah, didn't notice that one, but yeah it's the "division"-sing. Still works as / no red escape key, just USB->PS/2 adapter.
So I should add something useless here yes? Ok, ok...
Filco 105-key NKRO MX Browns Sw/Fi-layout|IBM Model M 1394545 Lexmark 102-key Finnish-layout 1994-03-22|Cherry G80-3000LQCDE-2 with MX CLEAR
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Dell AT102W(105-key SF) (Black ALPS)|Steelseries Steelkeys 6G(MX Black) ISO-FI-layout|Cherry G84-4400 G84-4700 Cherry MLs

Offline dxong

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« Reply #64 on: Tue, 09 November 2010, 16:11:31 »
thank you for the replies both of you.

I am gonna buy it for sure then, regardless of the language inscriptions on the keys. However I just hope I can buy certain keycaps to fulfill a danish layout, it has to be perfect!

Last obstacle before purchasing it is what switches I should get between blue and browns, though the reason why I want a mechanical keyboard is first of all the nostalgic feeling and especially the clicky sound, and the great experience from typing on mech board. The blue switches might be an annoyance so im opted for browns...

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« Reply #65 on: Wed, 10 November 2010, 05:48:56 »
Quote from: dxong;244729
thank you for the replies both of you.

I am gonna buy it for sure then, regardless of the language inscriptions on the keys. However I just hope I can buy certain keycaps to fulfill a danish layout, it has to be perfect!

Last obstacle before purchasing it is what switches I should get between blue and browns, though the reason why I want a mechanical keyboard is first of all the nostalgic feeling and especially the clicky sound, and the great experience from typing on mech board. The blue switches might be an annoyance so im opted for browns...

I'm not looking for any nostalgic feelings from my blues and I love the sound :thumb:

If there would be any time I'd want to cover the sound, I'd wear headphones and listen to some music, but the click from mx blues has become my music.
« Last Edit: Wed, 10 November 2010, 06:09:28 by db_Iodine »
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« Reply #66 on: Wed, 10 November 2010, 12:52:19 »
Quote from: dxong;244729
thank you for the replies both of you.

I am gonna buy it for sure then, regardless of the language inscriptions on the keys. However I just hope I can buy certain keycaps to fulfill a danish layout, it has to be perfect!

Last obstacle before purchasing it is what switches I should get between blue and browns, though the reason why I want a mechanical keyboard is first of all the nostalgic feeling and especially the clicky sound, and the great experience from typing on mech board. The blue switches might be an annoyance so im opted for browns...


I had the same goal when buying my first mechanical keyboard back then. I was very disappointed when I got the browns and could barely tell a difference. I expected too much.

If you want the real "whoa, thats what I was looking for", go with the blues.

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« Reply #67 on: Thu, 11 November 2010, 03:13:45 »
Quote from: sixty;245068
I had the same goal when buying my first mechanical keyboard back then. I was very disappointed when I got the browns and could barely tell a difference. I expected too much.

If you want the real "whoa, thats what I was looking for", go with the blues.


I'm getting more suprised with browns every day, BS was bit of meh... RDs are nothing like the browns.
So I should add something useless here yes? Ok, ok...
Filco 105-key NKRO MX Browns Sw/Fi-layout|IBM Model M 1394545 Lexmark 102-key Finnish-layout 1994-03-22|Cherry G80-3000LQCDE-2 with MX CLEAR
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Dell AT102W(105-key SF) (Black ALPS)|Steelseries Steelkeys 6G(MX Black) ISO-FI-layout|Cherry G84-4400 G84-4700 Cherry MLs

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« Reply #68 on: Sat, 11 December 2010, 15:44:02 »
Quote from: FullyPresent;206149
Tenkeyless swedish would be so awesome. I would order one immediately.

+1 on that.
I am too looking for tenkeyless fin/(swe), just can't find any. Sure there are bunch of 105-key mechanical boards but sadly on my desk the space is limited :(
<-- pic shows my sad Topre which gets to be slightly tilted in a narrow space
« Last Edit: Sun, 12 December 2010, 14:57:38 by nasse »
Topre Realforce 88UFB Tenkeyless Black (variable force)
Topre Realforce 105UFB Black (variable force)
Key Tronic KT2001PS2SV (VFT)

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« Reply #69 on: Sun, 12 December 2010, 05:17:37 »
Hi nasse

We are still looking good for February.
That's Tenkeyless UK, French, German and Swe/Fin
I know it's a long wait - Sorry.

Bruce

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« Reply #70 on: Sun, 12 December 2010, 15:03:15 »
Better late than never!
I'm really looking forward on those.
Topre Realforce 88UFB Tenkeyless Black (variable force)
Topre Realforce 105UFB Black (variable force)
Key Tronic KT2001PS2SV (VFT)

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« Reply #71 on: Tue, 21 December 2010, 01:48:26 »
Are you accepting preorders for those EU tenkeyless Filcos?
Wouldn't want to miss out on the first batch you guys get because some maniac want's to decorate his wall with a bunch of Filcos.

I'd assume we're talking about black Filcos right?
White tenkeyless with EU layout would be way too awesome.

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« Reply #72 on: Tue, 21 December 2010, 16:20:12 »
Quote from: gacken;266587
Are you accepting preorders for those EU tenkeyless Filcos?


We will be adding them to keyboardco.com very soon.
Then it will be possible to pre-order.

Black only for now.

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« Reply #73 on: Tue, 21 December 2010, 17:23:47 »
Same questions over and over again - same here actually just today via mail re a German Filco Ten-Keyless :angel:. I just wanted to take the time to say a big thanks to Bruce for taking his time and to literally be responding within minutes (to the same old question as I come to realize now from the thread over here).

I cannot wait to preorder (let alone receive) mine* and will prolly keep refreshing the site every 2 minutes from now. :tongue:

Really nice folk at Diatec as well by the way. At least to me that also plays a role in the buying decision. Big thumbs up there.


* A 88 Ten-keyless German with brown switches being the object of desire.

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« Reply #74 on: Wed, 22 December 2010, 11:36:53 »
They're on there now!
Orders coming in already.

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« Reply #75 on: Wed, 22 December 2010, 11:49:06 »
*Preordered* :thumb:

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« Reply #76 on: Wed, 22 December 2010, 12:04:17 »
Hey Bruce. I know this is the EU layout thread, but do you happen to have any idea if you'll be stocking the 87-key ANSI layout Filcos any time soon?
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« Reply #77 on: Wed, 22 December 2010, 12:27:08 »
Hi db

We got some nice Brown Switch ones in about 2 weeks.

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« Reply #78 on: Wed, 22 December 2010, 12:50:14 »
I was hoping for blues. If you'll stock them in a few months I think I can wait. I might have to "settle" for the SWE/FI if you stock those before the ANSI ones.
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« Reply #79 on: Wed, 22 December 2010, 13:03:36 »
I think Blues might be in the shipment.
If not they will be on order.

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« Reply #80 on: Wed, 22 December 2010, 13:24:25 »
Will there be Tenkeyless FI/SWE with Cherry MX blacks? It's not on preorder list  :shocked:

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« Reply #81 on: Thu, 23 December 2010, 04:12:11 »
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Will there be Tenkeyless FI/SWE with Cherry MX blacks?


Yes.
What I did was got a mix of languages and switches such that if we have to we can make more combinations by swapping over keysets so if I judged it right we'll be good for Black Switch 88TKL Swe/Fin.

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« Reply #82 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 08:13:06 »
Hey Bruce. Do/will you have white Filco with danish/swedish/europe keys?

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« Reply #83 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 09:05:10 »
Is possible to buy a 88 FIlco iso tenkeyless...but with spanish keys???
Too many keyboards....

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« Reply #84 on: Tue, 08 March 2011, 09:34:23 »
Hi ohm-ish
Welcome! Your cat looks comfortable there! The Whites have only been made in ASNI so we can't make them into ISO layouts. Sorry.
Javifest. Sorry but we have no Spanish keysets to do that with.

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« Reply #85 on: Wed, 09 March 2011, 05:06:20 »
Just wanted to ask if there is ISO-layout(/s) with MX Reds available, in anytime future?
So I should add something useless here yes? Ok, ok...
Filco 105-key NKRO MX Browns Sw/Fi-layout|IBM Model M 1394545 Lexmark 102-key Finnish-layout 1994-03-22|Cherry G80-3000LQCDE-2 with MX CLEAR
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Dell AT102W(105-key SF) (Black ALPS)|Steelseries Steelkeys 6G(MX Black) ISO-FI-layout|Cherry G84-4400 G84-4700 Cherry MLs

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« Reply #86 on: Wed, 09 March 2011, 05:11:12 »

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« Reply #87 on: Thu, 10 March 2011, 04:26:37 »
Hi Guys.

Sorry, my responses are slow this week, been spending a bit of quality time.
The answer is yes, but I really don't know when at this stage.

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« Reply #88 on: Thu, 10 March 2011, 05:31:19 »
Those are fantastic news Bruce !

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« Reply #89 on: Thu, 10 March 2011, 07:12:43 »
Hi Bruce,

Any idea when FI/SWE layouted tenkeyless keyboards with brown switches will be available again? The website says they're out of stock :(

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« Reply #90 on: Thu, 31 March 2011, 02:56:24 »
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Hi Bruce,

Any idea when FI/SWE layouted tenkeyless keyboards with brown switches will be available again? The website says they're out of stock :(
Or normal FI/SWE with blues?

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« Reply #91 on: Tue, 05 April 2011, 14:38:12 »
Hi Elos.

We have Full size on a ship right now - due about 4 weeks. The Tenkeyless is a few weeks behind that, but not a confirmed date right now.
We do have a few Full Size FI/SWE with Browns right now.

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« Reply #92 on: Wed, 11 May 2011, 23:40:50 »
Hi Bruce,
The second half of 2011 is coming soon, any news on the spanish layouts? full or tenkeyless would do, afteralls, spanish of one of the top 5 languages spoke in the world, and the layout is the same to most europeans, just the keycaps is the thing. BTW, when will you guys get new blank 105key layout(UK) filco keycaps at sale? and sorry for so many questions, but lastly, why if I want to get a keyboard shipped to Bolivia, South America I can set the shipping to the cheapest one, but if I add anything else, if it's more than 1 item(keycaps or keycaps puller) it forces me to pick a higher priced shippment option? the difference between them is so high that having 2 orders separate is cheaper for me.

Thanks a lot for your answer!