Avatar size

[baldgye]

How many of the accounts that voted were created since this poll went up?

And how many accounts with avatars have voted?

[keymaster]

It's a conspiracy!

[rknize]

We get dozens of registrations per day, so I can't really say.  The polls are anonymous.

[baldgye]

It's a conspiracy!

YOUR A CONSPIRACY!

[The_Ed]

We get dozens of registrations per day, so I can't really say.  The polls are anonymous.

Wait, so you're saying someone could make a bunch of sockpuppet account votes, and you wouldn't be able to tell?! I thought you could see who made the votes, and thus throw out sockpuppet votes...

[rknize]

I can tell.  So far there has only been one vote from a zero-poster.

[jdcarpe]

So as of right now, we have 30 votes for a bigger avatar, 19 votes for the same size or smaller, and 2 people who voted just to voice that they have no preference.

[The_Ed]

Alrighty then, I think it's about time to deploy 150 and see how it goes.

[rknize]

No one seemed to complain about the margin changes.  Avatar size limit is now 150x150 pixels.

[jdcarpe]

Looks good to me. Thanks, Russ!

[esoomenona]

No one seemed to complain about the margin changes.  Avatar size limit is now 150x150 pixels.

Did something change with signatures?

Edit: blegh, seems like it disappeared...

[rknize]

I didn't touch sigs.

[The_Ed]

Lookin' good! BTW can anyone explain to me why a bunch of people had changed their avatars to less than 50?

[jdcarpe]

Lookin' good! BTW can anyone explain to me why a bunch of people had changed their avatars to less than 50?

It was only me and moose, I believe. We did it in support of larger avatars.

[The_Ed]

...That's a strange way to show your support...

I think some other people did it as well, but I don't remember who or where I saw them.

[SmallFry]

I don't believe the others, such as mkawa, were intentional.

[Tarzan]

Holding out for an all-text view.

[jdcarpe]

Holding out for an all-text view.

Tapatalk for mobile.

[The_Ed]

Holding out for an all-text view.

Click the "Print" button... You didn't even look...

[esoomenona]

Was there a change in the way uploaded images were resized?

[SmallFry]

Holding out for an all-text view.

Click the "Print" button... You didn't even look...

That would require manual input on each page. I think you can turn off signatures and avatars to streamline some browsing.

[Tarzan]

Holding out for an all-text view.

Click the "Print" button... You didn't even look...

That's already been pointed out.  Selecting "Print" resets whenever you change threads. 

Should be a selectable option.  If we can change the background/foreground color schemes, we should be able to select an all-text view, sometimes called a "low bandwidth" mode. 

[E TwentyNine]

If a couple of themes were added a lot of these items could be addressed with minor impact, max avatar width included (sizing down).

Though I'm hoping the next version of SMF has better facilities for this sort of thing.

[esoomenona]

That would require manual input on each page. I think you can turn off signatures and avatars to streamline some browsing.

What is wrong with this option? It sounds pretty much exactly what he's asking for.

If a couple of themes were added a lot of these items could be addressed with minor impact, max avatar width included (sizing down).

Though I'm hoping the next version of SMF has better facilities for this sort of thing.

Custom themes? A site I used to browse often had them, as well as contests for people to build them.

[E TwentyNine]

Custom themes? A site I used to browse often had them, as well as contests for people to build them.

We already have a few options, but they're basically just color changes.  The customization could go further and give a barebones look or other styles.

[rknize]

Was there a change in the way uploaded images were resized?

I haven't fixed the re-encode bug in avatar uploads, if that's what you mean.  It's on the list.

[The_Ed]

Theme's are usually just overlayed over an exiting structure. So you'd have to use options to change the existing structure.

In other news I apparently can't count... I had to have bought 11 POS boards to give a stock of 6, but there is only record of me buying 10... So how the hell do I have 6?!... EDIT: Found it! There was a double pack.

[SmallFry]

That would require manual input on each page. I think you can turn off signatures and avatars to streamline some browsing.

What is wrong with this option? It sounds pretty much exactly what he's asking for.

If you wanted to cut down on bandwidth, this option would be not what he's looking for,since you'd still need to load the themed page. I'm just picking nits here, I love the Nostalgia theme with Avatars. and signatures.
Also, FWIW, 150 seems to be a very happy medium. I quite like the 150px avatar size.

[E TwentyNine]

Theme's are usually just overlayed over an exiting structure. So you'd have to use options to change the existing structure.

No you wouldn't.

If you wanted to cut down on bandwidth, this option would be not what he's looking for,since you'd still need to load the themed page. I'm just picking nits here, I love the Nostalgia theme with Avatars. and signatures.

You're already using a theme.  You'd just have a different theme.  SMF doesn't care which one it uses.

[SmallFry]

I'm lost now. Oh well.

[rknize]

Custom themes? A site I used to browse often had them, as well as contests for people to build them.

We already have a few options, but they're basically just color changes.  The customization could go further and give a barebones look or other styles.

We launched with Thoriated and Oranje.  They are simply re-skins of the default SMF2.0 theme, Curve.  I did it this way in the interest of time, but later made Nostalgia when I got bored with Curve's look.  Nostalgia also leverages much of the default theme, but has template changes to bring back more of the look of the old forum.

Themes in SMF2 are quite complex.  Even though SMF's core does a lot of the heavy lifting, much of the forum's PHP code is found in the theme templates themselves.  Some forum features are implemented almost entirely by the templates.  SMF2 does define a fairly clean API between its core and the templates and provides a "core" theme to illustrate this.  Drastically changing the look of the site means writing new templates, which quickly escalates into a large project given the sheer complexity of the default theme.  I have a couple of them sitting around, but I haven't had the time to devote to it.

I'm certainly open to anyone wanting to take on writing a drastically-new theme for GeekHack.  Doing so requires good PHP programming skills, CSS experience, and an SMF sandbox site of your own to experiment on.

[baldgye]

lmao The_Ed's avatar looks so much worse now hahaha

[The_Ed]

lmao The_Ed's avatar looks so much worse now hahaha

Worse?... Do explain.

[Tarzan]

Fixed the display for myself, at least partially.

Using Firefox as my browser, I added geekhack.org to the exception list for "Load Images Automatically."

Still get inline images in posts, but all others are turned off.

Thanks.

[rknize]

Don't load the style sheet.  Then you will get the 1992 look that you are after.

[esoomenona]

Fixed the display for myself, at least partially.

Using Firefox as my browser, I added geekhack.org to the exception list for "Load Images Automatically."

Still get inline images in posts, but all others are turned off.

Thanks.

I still don't see why you have to ignore what people are telling you about turning off avatars via the settings. But if you wish to do things the hard way: you could also use AdBlock to block avatars. Right click on one, then replace the number after attach= with an asterisk.

[E TwentyNine]

Don't load the style sheet.  Then you will get the 1992 look that you are after.

This option is in the menu: View->Page Style->No Style.  (Edit: unless you're talking about blocking the style sheet via adblock?)

And it's brutal.  Gives a simple look but does not save any space and doesn't hide some things normally hidden.

(this post made in that mode, where is that dang Post button....)

[E TwentyNine]

I still don't see why you have to ignore what people are telling you about turning off avatars via the settings. But if you wish to do things the hard way: you could also use AdBlock to block avatars. Right click on one, then replace the number after attach= with an asterisk.

You're ignoring what he's said.  Goes beyond avatars.

[rknize]

I was mostly joking, but way to go retro!

The complexity of SMF's theme templates lends itself well to what you want.  You can defeature the site quite effectively through a minimalistic theme.  I eagerly await your patches! 

[baldgye]

Did you even care to read it before you decided to comment?

I still don't see why you have to ignore what people are telling you about turning off avatars via the settings. But if you wish to do things the hard way: you could also use AdBlock to block avatars. Right click on one, then replace the number after attach= with an asterisk.

You're ignoring what he's said.  Goes beyond avatars.

looooool

[Tarzan]

Don't load the style sheet.  Then you will get the 1992 look that you are after.

This option is in the menu: View->Page Style->No Style.  (Edit: unless you're talking about blocking the style sheet via adblock?)

And it's brutal.  Gives a simple look but does not save any space and doesn't hide some things normally hidden.

(this post made in that mode, where is that dang Post button....)

[E TwentyNine]

I was mostly joking, but way to go retro!

The complexity of SMF's theme templates lends itself well to what you want.  You can defeature the site quite effectively through a minimalistic theme.  I eagerly await your patches! 

  I've actually had the source to SMF 2.0.4 downloaded for a few days now and have been browsing through it.   Quite amazed at the level of complexity in the themes and how it is so much more than just reskins.  Thought a theme could be cloned and have a few key things changed to get a minimalistic look by someone more familiar with the code.

As I'm happy with the GH layouts as they are, I'm not going to try to set it up local and muck with it.  Maybe when there's some quirk I just have to have...

[esoomenona]

preeettyy mature

Because baiting and turning people's words around is so mature, right?

[rknize]

I was mostly joking, but way to go retro!

The complexity of SMF's theme templates lends itself well to what you want.  You can defeature the site quite effectively through a minimalistic theme.  I eagerly await your patches! 

  I've actually had the source to SMF 2.0.4 downloaded for a few days now and have been browsing through it.   Quite amazed at the level of complexity in the themes and how it is so much more than just reskins.  Thought a theme could be cloned and have a few key things changed to get a minimalistic look by someone more familiar with the code.

As I'm happy with the GH layouts as they are, I'm not going to try to set it up local and muck with it.  Maybe when there's some quirk I just have to have...

Hehe...yeah you are going through the same process that we did.  It seems like a straight-forward job at first.  Mkawa was working on a simpler theme and had made some progress.  In the end we all had to move on to other, more pressing matters with the new site hardware architecture.

The style sheet for Curve is completely insane.  The way they achieve the curvy look is by snipping-out slivers of PNGs and pasting them into blocks.  This gives 100% control over how the blocks are rendered in terms of radius and color gradient.  Just changing the colors took a very long time because I had to re-color all of these PNGs.

Nostalgia uses less of this, but it still uses some because I was trying to roll it out quickly.  Cutting away this cruft is on my to-do list.  Doing so will be a good stepping stone to more interesting themes.  But yes, the template has all kinds of extra eye-candy and all the style sheet support that goes with it.

There are lots of SMF themes out there.  A lot of them are incomplete or hopelessly broken.  Playing with the topic index and post layouts is fun.  Writing templates for the profile editor or the package installer is much more boring.

[baldgye]

preeettyy mature

Because baiting and turning people's words around is so mature, right?

Being mature and trying to get reasoned arguments out of people got me abuse and resentment... why would I continue down that path when instead I can just have fun?

[The_Ed]

If this poll is open indefinitely, then the news announcement for it should be up in the header indefinitely as well.

[rknize]

If this poll is open indefinitely, then the news announcement for it should be up in the header indefinitely as well.

I'll leave it in there for a while, but probably not forever.

[rknize]

Added 120x120 pixels.  Sorry about the order.  I can't fix that without resetting the poll.

[The_Ed]

Added 120x120 pixels.  Sorry about the order.  I can't fix that without resetting the poll.

...Why? I still don't understand why you put the "Don't Care" option as well... I think both of them should be removed, but you own the poll so it's your decision I guess.

[rknize]

It's an ongoing poll, so just let it run its course.  People can change their votes, too.