[IC] POM Alice Case - PCB Info Available!

[Rejeckted]

Well, unfortunately my participation in this is now contingent on the PCB being offered . Now to figure out what to do with this Project Keyboard PCB and plate.

[eniigma]

Well, unfortunately my participation in this is now contingent on the PCB being offered . Now to figure out what to do with this Project Keyboard PCB and plate.

Like I said, the PCB will be an option, but you can opt out of it, and save a few bucks. For the plate, I'm really sorry about that, but you could probably unload it on r/MM for the same/similar price.

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[rtmf]

little update here, i was made aware that the Project PCBs will NOT be compatible with the Lubrigante, as the mounting points are different.

Sorry, I'm a little confused. This effectively means the case in this IC wouldn't work with any of the Project Keyboard plates and PCBs (I ordered R2 version, I know others have ordered R3), is that right? But you'll be offering a PCB and plate of your own that will work with the case?

[FinalEleven]

little update here, i was made aware that the Project PCBs will NOT be compatible with the Lubrigante, as the mounting points are different. I attached a picture so you guys know what I'm talking about (thanks pangowon).

really sorry for not making this info available earlier, and sorry for anyone who bought a plate because of this. DM me on Discord if you need help with anything relating to plates, because I feel responsible. eniigma#0683.

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Is it just the plate that's incompatible or the PCB as a whole? The way it's worded is kinda confusing.

[eniigma]

little update here, i was made aware that the Project PCBs will NOT be compatible with the Lubrigante, as the mounting points are different. I attached a picture so you guys know what I'm talking about (thanks pangowon).

really sorry for not making this info available earlier, and sorry for anyone who bought a plate because of this. DM me on Discord if you need help with anything relating to plates, because I feel responsible. eniigma#0683.

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Is it just the plate that's incompatible or the PCB as a whole? The way it's worded is kinda confusing.

Sorry, the PCB is compatible! the plate is the one that is incompatible. I'll have photos of the prototype up by Friday and hopefully have the fit checked a week from that date.

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[eniigma]

I updated the post to say plates not PCBs. sorry for any confusion. to confirm, the project PCBs WILL be supported and the Project plates WON'T be supported.

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[guzzi]

Since this is not explicitly stated in the post: Is this gonna be an international GB or will it be NA exclusive?

[eniigma]

Since this is not explicitly stated in the post: Is this gonna be an international GB or will it be NA exclusive?

I'm looking to make it international

I'll post shipping prices later

[mrkantz]

Ha what a rollercoaster of emotions, good to hear the PCB is still compatible. Looking forward to this!

[rtmf]

Sorry, the PCB is compatible! the plate is the one that is incompatible.

OK cool. So just to confirm the plan is still to offer both the case and a compatible plate in the GB, right?

[eniigma]

Sorry, the PCB is compatible! the plate is the one that is incompatible.

OK cool. So just to confirm the plan is still to offer both the case and a compatible plate in the GB, right?

yes, a POM plate will be included in every kit.

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[Dissitesuxba11s]

The GB for POM will start November 1st.

Here's a little preview of the color options for acrylic though :^).

Colors: clear, white, opague, black, neon blue, neon green, neon orange, neon pink, intense orange, deep purple, red tint, intense blue, forest green, ivory (off-white), light gray, medium blue, neon yellow, lavender, and more.

So yeah, there's a lot of color options. Pretty much anything you can think of.

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The GB on Nov 1st, will that just be for the POM, or will you be offering acrylic options at that time?

If you are offering acrylic, how will the price be affected?

[eniigma]

The GB for POM will start November 1st.

Here's a little preview of the color options for acrylic though :^).

Colors: clear, white, opague, black, neon blue, neon green, neon orange, neon pink, intense orange, deep purple, red tint, intense blue, forest green, ivory (off-white), light gray, medium blue, neon yellow, lavender, and more.

So yeah, there's a lot of color options. Pretty much anything you can think of.

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The GB on Nov 1st, will that just be for the POM, or will you be offering acrylic options at that time?

If you are offering acrylic, how will the price be affected?

I will be offering both acrylic and POM from November 1st. the POM cases will be the first ones I focus on and invoice, as I want to take it slow and get it right. after the cases are in manufacturing (1-2 weeks after the form closes), I will start invoicing for the acrylic cases.

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[Dissitesuxba11s]

I will be offering both acrylic and POM from November 1st. the POM cases will be the first ones I focus on and invoice, as I want to take it slow and get it right. after the cases are in manufacturing (1-2 weeks after the form closes), I will start invoicing for the acrylic cases.

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Nice, and will the prices be the same?

[eniigma]

I will be offering both acrylic and POM from November 1st. the POM cases will be the first ones I focus on and invoice, as I want to take it slow and get it right. after the cases are in manufacturing (1-2 weeks after the form closes), I will start invoicing for the acrylic cases.

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Nice, and will the prices be the same?

I'm not sure yet about pricing for the acrylic version, I will update it once I have confirmed the prototype is working. it should be in that same range though.

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[Nujabez0]

So what is everyone to do with their alice plates purchased from Project Keyboard? Because you've said before "not 100% sure, but should be fine since the mounting points are the same." But now we're stuck with Alice plate orders that won't even work with this case and are past the refund/cancellation period.

[Dissitesuxba11s]

So what is everyone to do with their alice plates purchased from Project Keyboard? Because you've said before "not 100% sure, but should be fine since the mounting points are the same." But now we're stuck with Alice plate orders that won't even work with this case and are past the refund/cancellation period.

You can sell it in r/mechmarket. You can probably sell it at a price to break even.

[eniigma]

So what is everyone to do with their alice plates purchased from Project Keyboard? Because you've said before "not 100% sure, but should be fine since the mounting points are the same." But now we're stuck with Alice plate orders that won't even work with this case and are past the refund/cancellation period.

mechmarket is an option but DM me and we'll see if we can work something out.

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[eniigma]

Prototype pics incoming!

[MdotMaxson]

Is white still gonna b an option?

[eniigma]

Is white still gonna b an option?

yes, I just ordered the prototype in black since that is what most people were interested in.

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[NoxNoxNox]

What PCB options are being offered with this?  The first post mentions PK's, but those PCB's are sold out so that isn't an option to buy separately. 

[eniigma]

What PCB options are being offered with this?  The first post mentions PK's, but those PCB's are sold out so that isn't an option to buy separately.

I've been in talks with PK and we will be offering those PCBs with the group buy. they will be available at the time of the group buy either from the PK website or along with this group buy.

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[NoxNoxNox]

Great!. That makes things much easier.

[eniigma]

I'm curious to know - if you guys look closely at the prototype, there are many small microscratches in the POM. If I was to actually handpolish each unit, I would definitely have to put a cap on the total units and higher the price. Would that bother you guys? Or are you guys alright with taking a couple of hours polishing it yourself? Should I sell the base without any polishing and have polishing as an add on? Let me know your thoughts.

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[mrkantz]

I say let us polish or have it as an add-on

[dankpupdaddy]

Letting us do it ourselves to keep cost and time down would be the way I'd go. Having it as an option for those that would rather you do seems smart though

[NoxNoxNox]

I'm happy to polish my own, but maybe you could offer a limited number of polished 'finished' kits for a premium.

[guzzi]

The thing that draws me to this GB is the affordability, so I'll polish it myself. Since I'm gonna go for a white one, small scratches should not be as visible as ones on a black case anyways.

[eniigma]

Okay guys, so I finally have some updates regarding PCBs. We need to reach 50 MOQ for the PCBs and they will cost $50 each. They will be the same, good ol' PCBs from the folks over at ProjectKeyboard. I will also be offering extra POM plates so stay tuned for info regarding that!
Also, thanks to the people who gave me feedback regarding polished vs unpolished cases, updates on that will come in the next week.

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[asianfork]

Okay guys, so I finally have some updates regarding PCBs. We need to reach 50 MOQ for the PCBs and they will cost $50 each. They will be the same, good ol' PCBs from the folks over at ProjectKeyboard. I will also be offering extra POM plates so stay tuned for info regarding that!
Also, thanks to the people who gave me feedback regarding polished vs unpolished cases, updates on that will come in the next week.

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I'm assuming that the PCB's won't be hotswap?

[Rejeckted]

Okay guys, so I finally have some updates regarding PCBs. We need to reach 50 MOQ for the PCBs and they will cost $50 each. They will be the same, good ol' PCBs from the folks over at ProjectKeyboard. I will also be offering extra POM plates so stay tuned for info regarding that!
Also, thanks to the people who gave me feedback regarding polished vs unpolished cases, updates on that will come in the next week.

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I'm assuming that the PCB's won't be hotswap?

You would be assuming correctly.

[eniigma]

Okay guys, so I finally have some updates regarding PCBs. We need to reach 50 MOQ for the PCBs and they will cost $50 each. They will be the same, good ol' PCBs from the folks over at ProjectKeyboard. I will also be offering extra POM plates so stay tuned for info regarding that!
Also, thanks to the people who gave me feedback regarding polished vs unpolished cases, updates on that will come in the next week.

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I'm assuming that the PCB's won't be hotswap?

no, they won't be hotswap. if you want, you can experiment with mill-max sockets, but I personally would just solder as it's not as hard as it seems.

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[Asryl]

Is it possible to purchase the PCB alone?

[eniigma]

Is it possible to purchase the PCB alone?

yes, it will be an option.

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[hamilton]

Will the plate be alps compatible?

[eniigma]

Will the plate be alps compatible?

no it won't be, but if you're willing to create an Alps PCB, then you can use the files from Zambumon to create it!

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[hamilton]

Will the plate be alps compatible?

no it won't be, but if you're willing to create an Alps PCB, then you can use the files from Zambumon to create it!

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I believe the project keyboard PCB already has alps support so I may try that

[eniigma]

i have a discord now.

https://discord.gg/a8VVCD

[packleadercho]

Dope. Glad to hear there'll be PCB availability since I missed out on the projectkeyboard drop. Hopefully it'll reach MOQ!

[eniigma]

quick update everyone, I've concluded that I'm not going to be offering polished cases. the finish that the POM has, while a bit inconsistent, seems to be better than what I have been ending up with. for context, I've tried sanding it nearly 10 different ways, and always I've come back to prefer the bare look. if you guys want to give it a shot, you can but I'm not going to be offering it.

also, not sure if I clarified this enough, you WILL be able to purchase PCB separately through this group buy.
I decided to allow people to choose the color of the PCB, so here's a strawpoll link and vote on the color you like best!
https://www.strawpoll.me/18769058

also, join the discord!!! https://discord.gg/nkfgmVc

[eniigma]

another update everyone! I have finally finished fitting screws with the case! the pictures below are not going to be the final screws used, and they will be the proper length. i'm still working out whether I want to use washers or not, but will most likely not end up using them for the people who want to turn the screws upside down for a flush top (I prefer having the screws visible in the top, but it's all preference).

[eniigma]

hey everyone, good news!
everything has been finalized for the GB and we are on track for the 1st of November.
a few things I wanted to mention:
1. the screws require a bit of torque to insert, so  be prepared for that
2. be careful when screwing and unscrewing the case so the holes don't strip
3. I'm not going to be offering coned aluminum feet after all, since I've come to prefer the flatter profile, but you can still buy them from KBDfans for cheap
4. because of the change mentioned in point number 3, the price of the additional hardware will be going down to $6.
5. PCBs WILL be offered standalone
6. I will be capping this group buy at around 150-ish units, which is what I could consider unreasonably difficult for me to handle. it will be FCFS, and there will be extras.
7. I'm not going to be offering acrylic cases for this group buy, because unlike some, I don't want to have to compete with 2 other vendors who are running acrylic cases. Peripheral and homerowco are both running GBs, so if you want acrylic, you guys can talk to them.

the color options for POM will be black or white (+$7) and I will invoice through PayPal.

I hope to see you all on November 1st!

[eniigma]

in case some of you guys haven't seen already, the group buy thread is up!

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103084.0

all of the final info is posted there!

see you all on November 1st