Wow. Inspiring.
If one were to hack off a part of a G80-3000, how do you figure out where to solder connections so the remainder of the keys work? For arguments sake that is.
how do you figure out where to solder connections so the remainder of the keys work?
sweet, i've never seen an alps space saver.
Eyeballing the pics of my ALPS keyboards the SGI makes a poor candidate because of controller placement. The Apple mini uses OLD ALPS that makes switch swaps near impossible. The Focus 2001 is the best candidate but you'd lose the best feature, the dust cover.Show Image(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9142&stc=1&d=1271344824)
I might pop this one open someday and look at it again. Void that lifetime warranty. :biggrin1:Show Image(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9143&stc=1&d=1271344931)
In the meantime my NeXT keys sit lonely and unloved.
I really like the look of this mod, the deep footprint of the bigfoot make this space saver look more squarish and I really like it. I think I might actually go for it. Did you just epoxy the case together?
Minitouch and Ortek ALPS space savers are nice, but this mod has a much better layout.
You've inspired me to cut the numpad off of one of my compax MX11800's. I've started doing it, I cut the contacts to the numpad with a drill so far and the remainder of the board works with 3 simple solder connections. I suck at soldering so this is sorta iffy, but I will post pictures later. It's really simple actually. I'll post pics later
Show Image(http://kbdholic.net/img/dell-saver/img_4349.jpg)
You put the bracket keys in the wrong order: "] [" instead of "[ ]".
This is the plan for my elbowglue mod this weekend.Show Image(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9350&d=1271961783)
The column of keys will have to be handled in software. By the PCB traces it will be
NumLock
7
4
1
0
With a big Oh Oh on the double-wide 0. Or maybe ditch the column and fill with Bond-O. You never knO.
Wow, that did come out nice. Can't make a Filco that small because the controller is right above the Arrow cluster (at least on a tenkeyless).
Are they Cherry Blacks?
And Welcome To Geekhack!
OOooo... Cherry Blues. Even better.
This mod gets a Geekgirl. She's kinda little because of the electrical tape. Awesome first post though.Show Image(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=9593&stc=1&d=1272752253)
I'm still thinking Great Stuff (http://greatstuff.dow.com/) would work. :madgrin: Maybe I'll try it out on my semi-DOA MX-8100 or one of my MY boards...
Roughly how much of that stuff did you use? Is it along the lines of filling the thing up, or coating the casing, or less than that? Sounds like it would be worth doing.
Also, I want to fill pretty much all the free space in the case because there's some flex at the moment under the 90- area if I apply a lot of pressure, and flexing pcbs are something I want to avoid. Any suggestions?
Show Image(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=10539&stc=1&d=1275572079)
Yeah baby! Proof of concept. You rock.
A work in progress. I got the keyboard working fine, just need to make the case look halfway decent.
I'm going to be lazy and not read the rest of the thread, is this possible with a model m?Hardly. Either you have to manage attaching wires to a plastic membrane sheet with solder printed on it or you have to remake that whole membrane.
Hardly. Either you have to manage attaching wires to a plastic membrane sheet with solder printed on it or you have to remake that whole membrane.
I wouldn't recommend it - get a model M space saver instead.
Can this be done with a AT101W?
Show Image(http://geekhack.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=12451&stc=1&d=1284211831)
swapping the switches from the plates...
that is also mass todo, hmm
Awesome thread. I like the idea of 'rolling up' the unused portion of the Model M membrane. Has anyone actually tried it?
No, I meant opening each switch and swapping out the slider and spring. Some folks around here have done it, there may also be a writeup somewhere. It seems reasonably easy for PCB-mounted switches like your two boards have, even though you're probably well advised to do one at a time and take care that the springs don't jump away and get lost (they're like really small - a magnet could be handy).
Yes :becky: Shhh...
He made it possible for folks who want to use them to have them. Collectors are still going to go the the real thing and keep prices nice and high.Good point. I kinda wish I didn't sell my full size M now; I would like to try it as well. Make a personalized mini without fear of ruining my stock case.
Of course, once he gets the technique down, he can probably double his money on any Model M he buys off the 'bay. Obviously, not everyone who wants a Space Saving is a GHer or a collector.
I am absolutely going to try this. I'll post pics when I'm done.
Also, how could I make it look seamless? To make it actually look like a mini.
There we go, proof of concept. The seam is pretty awful, but it's good enough for my own use. I'll probably make that cut with a bandsaw next time, and use some MEK to weld the pieces together. I wanted to preserve the legs on the right side, but I can't think of a good way to do that which doesn't get in the way of the supports.Show Image(http://www.danielbeaver.net/storage/projects/geekhackposts/space-saver-model-m-mod/21102010915.jpg)
Haven't seen one yet, but I imagine it would be less difficult than the 11900, since it's just a straight cut.
Than again, it all depends on what the traces on the PCB look like and whether they are harder to follow.
Cute arrow key layout.I was thinking the same thing.
more details about the modding plz.
i cant believe the 2. keyboard (below) is a 11900. where is the controller?
solderpoints? keylayout???
in the meantime i like keyboards without case very much...
Oh by the way ricercar - I have looked at the matrix at more detail. You will most likely be able to make the cut as you had described on your post, without doing *any* solders, and I predict it will work without *any* soldering. You'll still need to remap using autohotkey though.
Can I get a tiny weensy geek girl if this works as I predict? ;)
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Wow sixty that looks great! What did CeeSa use to cut the case?
Nice bottom row :)
I wonder your key assignment. How?
Win! That is beautiful areswu!
Looks sick, but why do the buttons go RM, LM, MM instead of LM, MM, RM? Easier to hit that way with your thumb?
looks ugly or ?
In Chinese slang, arieswu= uncle ar
Totally making a DELL 101 TKL when i find one cheap locally....GREAT WORK! Still trying to find my dropped jaw.:)
my 11900 became mini 60% board, without a case
the case is a big problem now....Show Image(http://armake.com/photo/albums/album116/IMG_0331.jpg)
my 11900 became mini 60% board, without a case
the case is a big problem now....Show Image(http://armake.com/photo/albums/album116/IMG_0331.jpg)
Wow dude, i love the layout of that other keyboard. model?
is that mod or something?
my 11900 became mini 60% board, without a case
the case is a big problem now....Show Image(http://armake.com/photo/albums/album116/IMG_0331.jpg)
Wow dude, i love the layout of that other keyboard. model?
is that mod or something?
The guy who posted that pic hasn't been active for a while, so I'll tell you. I think that it's a Cherry G80-1800. They aren't as common as the G80-3000, but you can still find them around.