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Offline SteveH

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Looking for an NEC APC-H25
« on: Sun, 02 September 2012, 08:08:05 »
Bit of a long shot, but I'm looking for an old 1980s NEC APC-H25 keyboard.  It's for one of these http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/big/6832/NEC-APC-Advanced-Portable-Computer/

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Re: Looking for an NEC APC-H25
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 02 September 2012, 17:31:11 »
Welcome to Geekhack!

I can't help with your need (although I do have an NEC APC-H4100E, so I understand your liking - those old NEC boxes were very well made.

Although most of the regulars will likely see this post, your best bet would be to join in, do a few more posts, then create a thread in Classifieds where this WTB will be stored for posterity.

Have you tried online auction sites?
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Re: Looking for an NEC APC-H25
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 03 September 2012, 01:03:45 »
Saw one recently. On eBay with the machine. Very expensive for just the board.

Offline SteveH

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Re: Looking for an NEC APC-H25
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 04 September 2012, 16:09:13 »
Hi rowdy, 486,

I've been looking on auctions sites like ebay for some time now and the only ones to come up so far have been in the US.  There are two full NEC APC machines currently on ebay but the sellers will only post within the US.  Not much help as I'm in the UK.

I suppose an alternative is to cobble together an interface to connect some other keyboard, but for that I'd at least need the NEC APC schematics - apparently they were provided with these beasts, but I've not managed to find them either.  I'll keep searching for a keyboard and/or schematics.

I've still got more work to do to restore the rest of the NEC APC.  You can see it's current condition here http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?18044-NEC-Advanced-Personal-Computer
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Re: Looking for an NEC APC-H25
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 04 September 2012, 17:29:20 »
Sounds like you'd need to find someone living in the US to act as a postal proxy for you.

Shipping costs would be quite high anyway - shipping from CONUS to Australia, for example, seems to be around $60 to $70 for a single keyboard.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

NEC APC-H4100E | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED red | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED green | Link 900243-08 | CM QFR MX black | KeyCool 87 white MX reds | HHKB 2 Pro | Model M 02-Mar-1993 | Model M 29-Nov-1995 | CM Trigger (broken) | CM QFS MX green | Ducky DK9087 Shine 3 TKL Yellow Edition MX black | Lexmark SSK 21-Apr-1994 | IBM SSK 13-Oct-1987 | CODE TKL MX clear | Model M 122 01-Jun-1988

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Offline digitalleftovers

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Re: Looking for an NEC APC-H25
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 05 September 2012, 19:29:57 »
Since you are in the UK, you should also post a classified over at Deskthority.net

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Offline SteveH

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Re: Looking for an NEC APC-H25
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 07 September 2012, 15:28:56 »
Thanks for the pointer, I'll head on over to deskthority.net
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Re: Looking for an NEC APC-H25
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 17 October 2017, 12:44:29 »
hey there, did you ever end up finding one of these? I came across one and think it's pretty cool, but don't really know what to do with it. I live in Los Angeles, so a long way from the UK, but if you're still looking and willing to work with me, I'm happy to work it out.
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Re: Looking for an NEC APC-H25
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 02 January 2018, 21:55:33 »
That's quite a necro-bump :eek:

I managed to find a replacement switch for my APC-H4100E, soldered it in place, and it now works perfectly (although is very yellowed).
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

NEC APC-H4100E | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED red | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED green | Link 900243-08 | CM QFR MX black | KeyCool 87 white MX reds | HHKB 2 Pro | Model M 02-Mar-1993 | Model M 29-Nov-1995 | CM Trigger (broken) | CM QFS MX green | Ducky DK9087 Shine 3 TKL Yellow Edition MX black | Lexmark SSK 21-Apr-1994 | IBM SSK 13-Oct-1987 | CODE TKL MX clear | Model M 122 01-Jun-1988

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