Interesting Layouts

[regack]

Edit: I renamed them Space Control

'opposites feature'

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When my '30% experiment' is finished this might be its (final) successor.

2 more but I don't think I like them as much

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So you're mostly playing with different bottom row configurations?  Programming the different layers/keys will probably come from usage, but figuring out where you want your fingers to be, yes, that's harder.

[Dwarlorf]

Edit: I renamed them Space Control

'opposites feature'

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When my '30% experiment' is finished this might be its (final) successor.

2 more but I don't think I like them as much

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So you're mostly playing with different bottom row configurations?  Programming the different layers/keys will probably come from usage, but figuring out where you want your fingers to be, yes, that's harder.

Yeah, that's right. I try to imagine which button configuration is best suited but in the end practical usage will tell. When I'm ready to make these I'll just make 2 plates and experiment.

[Phenix]

Is the 59% keyboard handwired? Looks like a really neat idea!

[regack]

Is the 59% keyboard handwired? Looks like a really neat idea!

I made a PCB for it, but it could certainly be handwired instead.  I have it posted up on github.

[Dwarlorf]

This could be very close to my final design. It has actually turned into a 25% (26 keys)

[mrbishop]

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/aa22b6f9d07a7ad87b2030dc439dfac8

Plank atomic variant
discuss

[Sifo]

I just really want a TKL but without the 3 columns to the right.

So 75% but with proper F-row spacing to play starcraft and no extra column for pageup/pagedown and all those keys.

I call it 69%, been meaning to build one for a while but I'd want to design a pcb for it and don't have the knowledge. I'll hit you up whenever I get around to it xD

[mrbishop]

I just really want a TKL but without the 3 columns to the right.

So 75% but with proper F-row spacing to play starcraft and no extra column for pageup/pagedown and all those keys.

I call it 69%, been meaning to build one for a while but I'd want to design a pcb for it and don't have the knowledge. I'll hit you up whenever I get around to it xD

Cool I look forward to it

sent from my chess board

[iFreilicht]

Interesting numpad on the 40 long !

And here is my try on the central numpads :

5x15 central numpad matrix

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I like that idea, I'll try to make something like that with my Atomic. Right now my layout looks like this:



Link.

I thought about making it "winkeyless", removing the bottom right and left keys, but I don't want to eliminate the options a full-grid layout otherwise gives me.

[dusan]

I'm working on this layout.


Specification has been finished. However the function layers are subjected to change.

Implementation is underway.

The layout was presented here on GH a year ago. Keyword: "Plum matrix keyboard".

The idea was presented here on GH two years ago. Keyword: "RealMatrix as an alternative to TypeMatrix".

[mrbishop]

because i've been curious about the Ortho keyboards for awhile now.

Ortho 60 and variants.

[switchnollie]

I call it the switch180



For when you want an 1800-ish look on a smaller board
Legends are just placeholders & the bottom is a split space layout frostytoast did.

[decker]

I call it the switch180
For when you want an 1800-ish look on a smaller board
Legends are just placeholders & the bottom is a split space layout frostytoast did.

If I shorten Backspace and add spaces, that reminds me of one of my layouts (with one extra column)...

40+N

[menuhin]

Trying to come up with some sensible and HHKB friendly layouts on the Atomic keyboard layout.
Just realized that without 'staggering', our home placement of fingers are 1 row away from the edge for the left hand and 4 rows away from the edge for the right hand.

I tried to make the hand placement more centered on the first one.
This is a comfortable layout however can't be so HHKB, and sadly without the full arrow keys:


This one has no attempt to center the hand placement.
This is more holistic but with some short modifier keys on the left and without the gap on the right bottom corner:

[xtrafrood]

I call it the switch180

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For when you want an 1800-ish look on a smaller board :p
Legends are just placeholders & the bottom is a split space layout frostytoast did.

Yes.

[sypl]

I call it the switch180

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For when you want an 1800-ish look on a smaller board :p
Legends are just placeholders & the bottom is a split space layout frostytoast did.

Where's the escape key...?

[iFreilicht]

because i've been curious about the Ortho keyboards for awhile now.

Ortho 60 and variants.
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Hm, those 1.5u keys to the left and right just seem to be there for the sake of it, not a fan of those really. Except for the blue layout, all of them would work out perfectly fine with 1u side columns and I'd argue they'd look better, too.

Trying to come up with some sensible and HHKB friendly layouts on the Atomic keyboard layout.
Just realized that without 'staggering', our home placement of fingers are 1 row away from the edge for the left hand and 4 rows away from the edge for the right hand.

I tried to make the hand placement more centered on the first one.
This is a comfortable layout however can't be so HHKB, and sadly without the full arrow keys:
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What about using 1u shift on the right? Then you'd have enough space for a full arrow cluster.

I call it the switch180

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For when you want an 1800-ish look on a smaller board :p
Legends are just placeholders & the bottom is a split space layout frostytoast did.

That looks pretty damn cool, I'd love to see that being built!

[Zorberema]

Something I've been working on for a while!



Basically kind of similar to a regular 60% but with arrowkeys, split space and some other rearangements. I implemented the arrows kind of similar to the 1800 just like switchnollie did with his ones. Tell me what you think! This is weird for sure, just made it for what I personally would like in a board, so fun to see what others think about it

[Moistgun]

Not the most revolutionary layout, but its great if you just want a popout fullsize add-on to your 60% board.
Great for in and out data entry.

[mrbishop]

Not the most revolutionary layout, but its great if you just want a popout fullsize add-on to your 60% board.
Great for in and out data entry.

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I'm partial to this board

sent from my chess board

[Moistgun]

Not the most revolutionary layout, but its great if you just want a popout fullsize add-on to your 60% board.
Great for in and out data entry.

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I'm partial to this board

sent from my chess board

Case made by the one and only Mr Bishop

[mrbishop]

Not the most revolutionary layout, but its great if you just want a popout fullsize add-on to your 60% board.
Great for in and out data entry.

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I'm partial to this board

sent from my chess board

Case made by the one and only Mr Bishop

Mad scientist / evil genious extraordinaire

sent from my chess board

[switchnollie]

I call it the switch180

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For when you want an 1800-ish look on a smaller board :p
Legends are just placeholders & the bottom is a split space layout frostytoast did.

Where's the escape key...?

Wherever you want it :rolleyes:

Programmable ofc :)

[mrbishop]

I call it the switch180

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For when you want an 1800-ish look on a smaller board :p
Legends are just placeholders & the bottom is a split space layout frostytoast did.

i have an affinity for this.  :thumb:

[xtrafrood]

I call it the switch180

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For when you want an 1800-ish look on a smaller board :p
Legends are just placeholders & the bottom is a split space layout frostytoast did.

i have an affinity for this.  :thumb:

I like that it has exactly zero insert keys

[iFreilicht]

Something I've been working on for a while!

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Basically kind of similar to a regular 60% but with arrowkeys, split space and some other rearangements. I implemented the arrows kind of similar to the 1800 just like switchnollie did with his ones. Tell me what you think! This is weird for sure, just made it for what I personally would like in a board, so fun to see what others think about it :)

Nice! My current board does the same thing, but I had to stay inside my 60% PCB, so my arrows are 1.25u wide (uparr is 1.75), which was irritating in the beginning, but it's easy to get used to.

[menuhin]

Making the Shift key 1u will increase its mistype rate. That's why I try to introduce gaps at the bottom row for easier reaching of the modifier keys.

Trying to come up with some sensible and HHKB friendly layouts on the Atomic keyboard layout.
Just realized that without 'staggering', our home placement of fingers are 1 row away from the edge for the left hand and 4 rows away from the edge for the right hand.

I tried to make the hand placement more centered on the first one.
This is a comfortable layout however can't be so HHKB, and sadly without the full arrow keys:
(Attachment Link)

What about using 1u shift on the right? Then you'd have enough space for a full arrow cluster.

[menuhin]

Yes, it reminds me of the TypeMatrix, and also the Maltron.

I'm working on this layout.

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Specification has been finished. However the function layers are subjected to change.

Implementation is underway.

The layout was presented here on GH a year ago. Keyword: "Plum matrix keyboard".
The idea was presented here on GH two years ago. Keyword: "RealMatrix as an alternative to TypeMatrix".

[dusan]

Yes, it reminds me of the TypeMatrix, and also the Maltron.

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I'm working on this layout.

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Specification has been finished. However the function layers are subjected to change.

Implementation is underway.

The layout was presented here on GH a year ago. Keyword: "Plum matrix keyboard".
The idea was presented here on GH two years ago. Keyword: "RealMatrix as an alternative to TypeMatrix".

The physical layout is somewhat similar to the Maltron. The logical layout isn't. It was inspired by the TypeMatrix. The key difference to the TypeMatrix is location of modifier keys (Ctrl, Shift, Alt) relatively to navigation keys (arrows, Home, End etc) and editation keys (Backspace, Delete, Undo etc).  Location of modifier keys is IMO the major issue in the TypeMatrix, compared to standard PC and laptop keyboards.

Another difference is the symmetry of the physical layout, making it possible to swap parts of the layout between left and right half. For example, if you use the mouse by the right hand, you may want to do all keyboard navigate-select-edit actions by the left hand. This is impossible in the TypeMatrix.

Finally the logical layout separates hands better than the TypeMatrix, given the same physical dimensions.

[Phenix]

Something I've been working on for a while!

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Basically kind of similar to a regular 60% but with arrowkeys, split space and some other rearangements. I implemented the arrows kind of similar to the 1800 just like switchnollie did with his ones. Tell me what you think! This is weird for sure, just made it for what I personally would like in a board, so fun to see what others think about it :)

Nice! My current board does the same thing, but I had to stay inside my 60% PCB, so my arrows are 1.25u wide (uparr is 1.75), which was irritating in the beginning, but it's easy to get used to.

Will you design a PCB? I hope so, thats an beautiful layout (which will also fits my need)

[menuhin]

Something I've been working on for a while!

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Basically kind of similar to a regular 60% but with arrowkeys, split space and some other rearangements. I implemented the arrows kind of similar to the 1800 just like switchnollie did with his ones. Tell me what you think! This is weird for sure, just made it for what I personally would like in a board, so fun to see what others think about it :)

It looks very similar to layout options 4, 5, or 6 on the White Fox Keyboard. Anyways, you can reprogram the keys on the White Fox:

[Dwarlorf]

5 Way Hat keyboard



D = Del
C = CTRL
T = TAB
E = Enter / FN2

The white buttons are 4-directional with center push.

[iFreilicht]

5 Way Hat keyboard

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D = Del
C = CTRL
T = TAB
E = Enter / FN2

The white buttons are 4-directional with center push.

How exactly would one activate the secondary/ternary/whatever functions of that board? Chording?

[Dwarlorf]

5 Way Hat keyboard

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D = Del
C = CTRL
T = TAB
E = Enter / FN2

The white buttons are 4-directional with center push.

How exactly would one activate the secondary/ternary/whatever functions of that board? Chording?

Normal press = top left symbol
Long press  =  top right symbol

FN1 + normal press = bottom left symbol
FN1 + long press = bottom right symbol

FN2 + normal press = Front left symbol
FN2 + long press = Front right symbol

Concepts and partially prototyping

[menuhin]

5 Way Hat keyboard

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D = Del
C = CTRL
T = TAB
E = Enter / FN2

The white buttons are 4-directional with center push.

Someone placed a customizable number pad in horizontal position and redefine it as a one-hand pad with a similar layout as yours:

[Dwarlorf]

5 Way Hat keyboard

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D = Del
C = CTRL
T = TAB
E = Enter / FN2

The white buttons are 4-directional with center push.

Someone placed a customizable number pad in horizontal position and redefine it as a one-hand pad with a similar layout as yours:

That's actually how I started out as well. I wonder how many functionalities that one has. I want mine to have/keep full keyboard functionality.

[menuhin]

Perhaps it's good to get inspiration of the layout and layers from Matias Half-Keyboard:

http://www.matias.ca/halfkeyboard/index.php?refID=7
http://www.matias.ca/halfkeyboard/resources/downloads/HK101_RevisedManual.pdf

[Dwarlorf]

Perhaps it's good to get inspiration of the layout and layers from Matias Half-Keyboard:

http://www.matias.ca/halfkeyboard/index.php?refID=7

Interesting concept indeed. Very expensive for just half a keyboard though. 

On a side note: I did not intend mine to be a one handed keyboard but many people seem to think so.

[replicaJunction]

I'm designing a board based around the thought "60% split Atreus" and looking for some feedback on layout options.

Here's a "true" 60% Atreus design - I've tried to stay as close as possible to the original Atreus:



Based on my hand size, it looks like I'd benefit from a more aggressive column stagger. I'm not quite sure how many and what sizes of keys I'd like, though. Here are a couple of the ideas I've been playing with:





Here are a couple of my other references and inspirations:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74518.0

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85164.0

What do you all think? Any of these options look better than the others?

[mrbishop]

60% symmetry.



http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/71c94c914797c80fda46eaecb1bfac96

[Phenix]

60% symmetry.

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http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/71c94c914797c80fda46eaecb1bfac96

Split capslock

[mrbishop]

60% symmetry.

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http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/71c94c914797c80fda46eaecb1bfac96

Split capslock

not quite. split shift. on both sides tho and spacebar

[feralfoo]

Have seen some useful and interesting layouts here so far. I've been a fan of the 60% form factor for a while, but can't live without an arrow cluster. So trying my hand at a custom which is still compatible with poker 60 style cases:

[Phenix]

Have seen some useful and interesting layouts here so far. I've been a fan of the 60% form factor for a while, but can't live without an arrow cluster. So trying my hand at a custom which is still compatible with poker 60 style cases:

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That looks good!

[menuhin]

Have seen some useful and interesting layouts here so far. I've been a fan of the 60% form factor for a while, but can't live without an arrow cluster. So trying my hand at a custom which is still compatible with poker 60 style cases:

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Nice, the 2.75u R_Shift can go just right in there as the space bar.
Actually following your practice of putting the Up-arrow key right next to the forward-slash key, even a 6u or 6.25u space bar can be achieved, depending on how many functional modifiers you are going to keep.

[xtrafrood]

Have seen some useful and interesting layouts here so far. I've been a fan of the 60% form factor for a while, but can't live without an arrow cluster. So trying my hand at a custom which is still compatible with poker 60 style cases:

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This reminds me of the HHKB Pro JP. Nice

[feralfoo]

This reminds me of the HHKB Pro JP. Nice

Yeah the Pro JP has been my everyday keyboard for about a year now. Be nice in ANSI instead of ISO.

[feralfoo]

Nice, the 2.75u R_Shift can go just right in there as the space bar.
Actually following your practice of putting the Up-arrow key right next to the forward-slash key, even a 6u or 6.25u space bar can be achieved, depending on how many functional modifiers you are going to keep.

Great point, had a few iterations which did exactly that.

Plate is on the way via Swillkb's fantastic builder site, will create another thread after that.

[mrbishop]

So I've been wanting to try an ortho so here we go



sent from my chess board

[DeTommie]

So I've been wanting to try an ortho so here we go

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sent from my chess board

Too bad you didn't make the keys have a chess-pattern. Then you could really send it from your chessboard...