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Offline planet36

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where to try ergonomic chairs?
« on: Fri, 29 December 2017, 12:22:29 »
Are there stores to try ergonomic chairs (by well-known brands like Herman Miller, Humanscale, Steelcase, etc.)?

In office supply stores I visit, I only find non-ergonomic chairs.

Offline gak1234

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Re: where to try ergonomic chairs?
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 30 December 2017, 11:06:49 »
I guess it depends on where you live. 

https://www.hermanmiller.com/where-to-buy/find-a-store/?q=90210

Herman Miller has authorized retailers, search by zip code.  I recently tried the Aeron, Embody, and a few other of their chairs.  To me they were surprisingly uncomfortable, and after playing musical chairs for 2 hours in the local showroom, I left without making a purchase.  I'm a smaller person, and the Aeron size A was pretty nice but the back was too short.  I asked if the size B back could be ordered with a Size A seat and they said no.  As of a few days ago, I now sit in a Tempur-Pedic TP6400 (Staples exclusive model) and I absolutely love it - my only wish is that the armrests could be slid further toward my torso.

https://www.humanscale.com/about/where-to-buy/find-a-reseller.cfm

https://www.steelcase.com/find-us/where-to-buy/dealers/location/34.1030032/-118.41046840000001/us/all/distance/Beverly%20Hills,%20CA%2090210,%20United%20States/
« Last Edit: Sat, 30 December 2017, 11:12:13 by gak1234 »

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Re: where to try ergonomic chairs?
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 01 January 2018, 04:39:38 »
I would be concerned. Depending on how much you sit. The Staples chair may be comfortable now but could cause serious injury. The Embody is a fantastic chair and should fit someone very small. That is why it is one size unlike the Aeron. It can go from 4'6" 90# to myself at over 7 feet and nearly 400#. Of course the warranty is only 300# but I have no doubt it will hold 600#. That person would run into a problem with the armrests though. I barely make it, but I do even though it is not supposed to be. It just goes to show it is very flexible in size. I had to fit a 27" gas cylinder from another brand for myself. I use a sit/stand raised to where I sit. The Embody is fantastic but it is not for everyone. I would just be weary of the Staples chair if you sit more than 2hours/day.

Offline gak1234

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Re: where to try ergonomic chairs?
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 01 January 2018, 09:38:58 »
I would be concerned. Depending on how much you sit. The Staples chair may be comfortable now but could cause serious injury. The Embody is a fantastic chair and should fit someone very small. That is why it is one size unlike the Aeron. It can go from 4'6" 90# to myself at over 7 feet and nearly 400#. Of course the warranty is only 300# but I have no doubt it will hold 600#. That person would run into a problem with the armrests though. I barely make it, but I do even though it is not supposed to be. It just goes to show it is very flexible in size. I had to fit a 27" gas cylinder from another brand for myself. I use a sit/stand raised to where I sit. The Embody is fantastic but it is not for everyone. I would just be weary of the Staples chair if you sit more than 2hours/day.

What is it in particular about the Tempur-Pedic TP6400 that concerns you?  I've spent several 8+ hour days in it now and still have no complaints other than not enough armrest adjustable range.  I even binge-watched the first 5 hours of HBO West World in this chair and commented to myself that it is almost as comfy as a bed.

Believe it or not, the Embody was one of the most UNcomfortable office chairs I've ever sat in!  My friend bought one and loved it so much he bought another one.  He is about the same size/build as me, so just his praise about the chair had me half-convinced that Embody was THE chair for me too.  I walked into the retail store, quite excited to sit in the legendary Embody, sat down in it, and 10 minutes later I realized I hated everything about the chair except for the adjustable seat edge, a function that the Aeron really should have as well.

I shopped around for several weeks before buying a chair - I sat for at least 15 minutes in over a dozen different chairs ranging from mild to wild, and the TP6400 almost instantly won me over.

I think the lesson here is that the brand doesn't matter, the store that sells it doesn't matter, and the price doesn't matter.   Comfort matters!  Try all the chairs, OP!

Offline davkol

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Re: where to try ergonomic chairs?
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 01 January 2018, 12:52:55 »
comfortable != healthy

Offline gak1234

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Re: where to try ergonomic chairs?
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 01 January 2018, 13:03:02 »
pain, headaches, stiff muscles, circulation issues, etc caused by an uncomfortable chair != healthy... and for that matter, healthy != uncomfortable.
« Last Edit: Mon, 01 January 2018, 13:31:31 by gak1234 »

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Re: where to try ergonomic chairs?
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 01 January 2018, 14:44:58 »
Last time I bought a chair (Humanscale Freedom), I went to Design Within Reach, which also had most of the Herman Miller and Steelcase chairs, as well as Knoll and some others. If youíre in the SF Bay area or Portland, Oregon, Fully (which used to be ErgoDepot, but apparently thought that name was too confusing) has showrooms where you can try out several brands of chairs (notably Varier).

Another brand to consider is the Ekornes Stressless chairs.  We have a couch and some lounge chairs, and theyíre some of the most comfortable furniture Iíve ever sat on. We happened to find some of their office chairs when we were in the UK, and they are just as amazingly comfortable.

A good chair is a good investment; itís a shame that you canít rent them for a couple of weeks or months so you can try them out and really figure out if they work for you.

Offline gak1234

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Re: where to try ergonomic chairs?
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 01 January 2018, 14:56:53 »
Last time I bought a chair (Humanscale Freedom), I went to Design Within Reach, which also had most of the Herman Miller and Steelcase chairs, as well as Knoll and some others. If youíre in the SF Bay area or Portland, Oregon, Fully (which used to be ErgoDepot, but apparently thought that name was too confusing) has showrooms where you can try out several brands of chairs (notably Varier).

Design Within Reach in Denver is where I tried out all the Herman Miller chairs, they let me try them all out for almost 2 hours without hovering around me the whole time.

Speaking of which... There were numerous like-new, refurbished, office-liquidation Aeron chairs for sale used on Craigslist last time I looked, in the $300 price range.

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Re: where to try ergonomic chairs?
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 01 January 2018, 15:40:49 »
pain, headaches, stiff muscles, circulation issues, etc caused by an uncomfortable chair != healthy... and for that matter, healthy != uncomfortable.
<insert a rant about logic>

Let me put it this way: a comfortable chair is great and stuff, but it doesn't prevent (in fact, when used too much, then it does cause) muscle weakening/shortening. That's also the problem with horizontally oriented setups: weakening of the cardiovascular system.

That's why there's a whole segment of ergonomic chairs that are slightly uncomfortable in the sense that they prevent sitting still for longer periods of time.

Although, I'm not saying it applies in this case, if you got pain, headaches, stiff muscles and circulation issues among other things from sitting in a chair for only 10 minutes. O_o

Offline gak1234

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Re: where to try ergonomic chairs?
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 01 January 2018, 17:07:56 »
I just fixed the TP6400 issue of not having enough armrest range.  I drilled/tapped an additional 3/8-16 hole to allow the armrests to come in further.



Now it is even more unhealthy/comfortable!
« Last Edit: Mon, 01 January 2018, 17:10:40 by gak1234 »

Offline seva1385

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Re: where to try ergonomic chairs?
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 26 March 2018, 17:26:06 »
Google for "ergonomic furniture near me" :)
Also, consider user office furniture stores; you can get an almost new chair for a fraction of the price.
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Re: where to try ergonomic chairs?
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 27 March 2018, 02:43:55 »
I have never had so much back pain as when I was forced to use a Kinnarps chair with umpteen different knobs and dials. I had it adjusted by their representative "expert" and it didn't do much difference either. My back improved only after I had quit that job.

Either you sit comfortably in a chair that allows you to slouch, or you use a backless "kneeling chair".
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Offline templanet

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Re: where to try ergonomic chairs?
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 21 April 2018, 23:06:57 »
Either you sit comfortably in a chair that allows you to slouch, or you use a backless "kneeling chair".

Kneeling chairs will wreck your knee joints so I hear. My parents bought me one when I was a teenager and I do remember it gave me sore knees. I use a saddle chair now, but I've found with a saddle chair if I don't have a body pocket cutout to rest my forearms on, my back gets tired and I want to return to a normal chair.
« Last Edit: Sun, 22 April 2018, 02:32:04 by templanet »