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geekhack Community => Other Geeky Stuff => Topic started by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 28 October 2014, 09:26:04
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My workstation (Win 7 64bit) at work either works well or crashes a lot so when it works I tend to leave it alone and never restart it. Current uptime is over 33 days.
Just wondering how often you guys think a PC needs to be restarted?
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my work PC i usually shut down at the end of the week and restart monday morning.
i know our server doesn't ever get shutdown/restarted unless there's upgrade or planned maintenance.
My home PC i restart prob once every 2-3 weeks. Mainly because i run windows update once every few weeks and it asks me to restart.
Or nvidia pushes out a new driver that requires a reboot.
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I turn my computer off every night cause I'm cheap.
How often a PC needs to be restarted? I guess that depends on the application.
Our servers @ work are rebooted once a month for updates/maintenance.
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Personal Desktop , daily because I sleep right next to it .
Work computer : 2 months uptime , don't remember why i restarted it .
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I shut down my personal whenever I am not using it. Boot time with ssd and asrock quick boot is 15 seconds to a usable desktop so it doesnt matter to me. If I leave it on, between my pc and receiver, my comp room starts to heat up after a couple days.
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The only time I ever restart my machine is after patches have been applied, which is on average once a month after "Patch Tuesday". I don't allow it to restart automatically, I just have it alert me to do so. If I could never reboot my Windows machine I'd be perfectly happy. Makes me appreciate Linux.
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Whenever they need it after updates and such.
Restarting isn't as painful now that most systems have SSDs.
EDIT: If you don't leave office computers running or asleep when you leave (and your IT group manages updates & restarts), can you just not? :confused:
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i hate restart bcs the lappie when booting is very slow :-X :confused:
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On average, I'd say I restart my home rig about once a week. Lately it's been a bit more than that, as I've had a few hardware issues...
For work, I have a laptop, so it gets shut down every day when I leave.
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I restart my computer every morning.
For one thing, it is a heat generator, and in the summer you are just making your air conditioner do extra work to overcome it. In the winter that is OK, but it is a very expensive way to heat a room.
PS - I also have to restart every time I want to test a PS/2 keyboard!
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Windows gets restarted whenever--Updates for OS, Software, drivers.
Linux box only when I want to do a kernel update!
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I don't shut my PC off very much. If I'm home, I'm either using it directly or streaming something from it to another room. I could shut it off when I go to work, but I usually forget.
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I do system and driver updates once a week which is when it gets a reset.
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My workstation (Win 7 64bit) at work either works well or crashes a lot so when it works I tend to leave it alone and never restart it. Current uptime is over 33 days.
Just wondering how often you guys think a PC needs to be restarted?
Once a month during patch-day is usually sufficient. If it's up longer (2-3 months+), restart it before patching to clean up possible memory corruption.
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I turn off my desktop whenever I stop using it, thus it gets about eight-hour uptime a day on average. What would be the point of data encryption otherwise?
My laptop on the other hand goes to sleep, and I reboot it only after huge/critical system updates. My current uptime is five days.
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I always turn off my PC when I leave the house, I'm kinda surprised you guys dont? :3 Just an automatic feature for me, especially now I have an SSD with <10 second boot time
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Desktop - About once a month, it's my primary machine as well as home server, so used for streaming as well as downloading new stuff.
Laptop - Every night before I go to sleep, it heats up enough already, don't need it running otherwise.
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You shouldn't need to restart your computer. If you get it stable enough, you can get uptimes on your workstation like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/n8jwJt5.png)
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Interesting thread! My "home server" (Win7) is up 24/7/365, but gets booted every 7-10 days. I always feel it gets a bit wonky after a week up. My Macbook, I just shut the lid when I'm done with it, but I boot it every week also.
And I'll add I run a "tight ship" - not installing every old thing that comes by, cleaning and updating all the time, so I consider the systems "clean." But I still like a fresh start once a week. Maybe it's an old habit from Win95 days :D
Now my router...
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Work PC every week or two, usually when it becomes unresponsive or insists on a reboot for whatever flimsy reason.
Home:
zinc-2:~ rowdy$ uptime
6:14 up 129 days, 14:30, 2 users, load averages: 1.20 1.19 0.85
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I always turn off my PC when I leave the house, I'm kinda surprised you guys dont? :3 Just an automatic feature for me, especially now I have an SSD with <10 second boot time
For my work PC it stays powered on 24/7 in case I need to remote into it.
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For my work PC it stays powered on 24/7 in case I need to remote into it.
Fair point, fair point :)
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My servers are too expensive to run 24/7.. i checked the electric bill last month.. NO BUENO...
So.. I only run one of them now..
For my desktop.. I turn it off, because it's no longer my server.
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My servers are too expensive to run 24/7.. i checked the electric bill last month.. NO BUENO...
So.. I only run one of them now..
For my desktop.. I turn it off, because it's no longer my server.
Get you some solar panels and some batteries!
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Get you some solar panels and some batteries!
and hook them up to his nipples?
I'm honestly not sure how that would help Ray... :))
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Get you some solar panels and some batteries!
and hook them up to his nipples?
I'm honestly not sure how that would help Ray... :))
To offset the cost of his servers power usage.
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Actually, having just read the title (sorry SpAmRaY!) I guess you should restart your PC when something needs to be installed that is in use and cannot be replaced until the computer is restarted (e.g. a kernel, unless you are running ksplice on Linux), the system hangs, or if there is a fairly significant resource leak or depletion that cannot easily be rectified in other ways.
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I shut down my desktop every night. I only restart my laptop if it has some update it needs.
Linux box only when I want to do a kernel update!
https://github.com/jirislaby/ksplice
http://rhelblog.redhat.com/2014/02/26/kpatch/
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I turn my computer off every night cause I'm cheap.
How often a PC needs to be restarted? I guess that depends on the application.
Our servers @ work are rebooted once a month for updates/maintenance.
I hibernate every month becasue I'm cheap.
I restart my windows box about once a week for updates and maint. The linux box usually gets 100-200 days of uptime before I restart it for some reason.
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I wonder whether I am living in Bizarro World http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarro_World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarro_World)
You guys act like the "natural state" of a computer is "on" rather than "off" and that it is simply a part of the scenery, rather than a work/recreation appliance for the assistance and/or entertainment of living beings.
Expending energy for no purpose besides waste is merely one aspect, but it is probably not wrong to assume that the "computer being on" also implies an endless connection to the "world-wide-web" where, every type of nastiness resides, relentlessly seeking entrance into the inner sanctum of your essence.
But, I am a weird and paranoid old man who has utterly obsolete concepts of conservation and privacy and minimalism, so just leave me alone and I will do the same for you.
That means: I turn my computer off every night and back on the next day. If it weren't for the wife and kids, I would do the same for the modem and router.
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My servers are too expensive to run 24/7.. i checked the electric bill last month.. NO BUENO...
So.. I only run one of them now..
For my desktop.. I turn it off, because it's no longer my server.
Get you some solar panels and some batteries!
I haven't looked into single panels , are they good ? any recs ?
My server chews up 600watt just from being ON, doing NADA.. how many panels is that ?
when I task in, it's ~900 without any gpu load, and ~1000 with gpu load.
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I wonder whether I am living in Bizarro World http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarro_World (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarro_World)
You guys act like the "natural state" of a computer is "on" rather than "off" and that it is simply a part of the scenery, rather than a work/recreation appliance for the assistance and/or entertainment of living beings.
Expending energy for no purpose besides waste is merely one aspect, but it is probably not wrong to assume that the "computer being on" also implies an endless connection to the "world-wide-web" where, every type of nastiness resides, relentlessly seeking entrance into the inner sanctum of your essence.
You can leave your computer on as a space heater for your room and save money by keeping the rest of the apartment at 40 degrees so the pipes don't freeze.
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Also, some parts are less prone to failure under constant use (e.g., smaller temperature changes).
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I turn off my desktop pretty much every time I'm done with it. I only sleep it if I know I'm returning within a few hours and want to keep what I have open. <15 seconds to full boot means it doesn't matter to me.
MacBook Air doesn't get shut down as often. Work laptop is shut down at the end of the work day, but I don't have a desk job. It's used on commercial sites. Because it has a really slow and heavily encrypted hard drive, I sleep it dozens of times a day rather than booting from scratch (which takes 2-5 minutes).
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I turn off my desktop pretty much every time I'm done with it. I only sleep it if I know I'm returning within a few hours and want to keep what I have open. <15 seconds to full boot means it doesn't matter to me.
MacBook Air doesn't get shut down as often. Work laptop is shut down at the end of the work day, but I don't have a desk job. It's used on commercial sites. Because it has a really slow and heavily encrypted hard drive, I sleep it dozens of times a day rather than booting from scratch (which takes 2-5 minutes).
I'm like this for the most part:
- Gaming rig: SSD equipped, boots in like 7 seconds, powered off when not in use.
- Surface Pro: SSD equipped, boots nearly instantly, powered off when not in use.
- Work laptop: Spinning HDD, boots in like two or three minutes to a functional desktop, sleeping when not in use, powered off if not needed for a day or two.
- Mac mini: Spinning HDD, used daily, put to sleep overnight and when not in use. Just ordered a drive carrier for a second drive and will be swapping in a SSD and will power off when not in use.
If it takes less than a minute to boot and be functional, I shut it down when I'm done. Power savings add up. Especially when you're dealing with a number of machines. I feel guilty having so many, but three of them are "necessary" for my day-to-day life. The Surface Pro is "spare" but it's a stand-in machine for my work laptop. What they gave me is 15.6" and weighs probably like seven or eight pounds and gets about two hours of battery life. It's not too handy for being out and about with work.
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- Mac mini: Spinning HDD, used daily, put to sleep overnight and when not in use. Just ordered a drive carrier for a second drive and will be swapping in a SSD and will power off when not in use.
It's not too bad, but installing the second drive is made way more difficult than it had to be by the "looks design" at apple. I think form should follow function, apple sacrifices almost everything for form.
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Just wondering how often you guys think a PC needs to be restarted?
For Windows I have no idea so I won't be of any help but "funny" story here... I've had a Debian Linux server reach an uptime of four years (!): no major security patch affecting my setup during all these years so the thing kept cranking happily. The motherboard eventually died if I recall correctly: the thing wouldn't reboot because the hosting company had replaced the dedicated server by a much more recent version which had chipsets on the new motherboard not even recognized by my old Debian Linux version (I didn't even have the network working anymore IIRC) :p
As for my workstation (Core i5 / 16 GB of Ram): it's running 64-bit Debian Linux too and it regularly reaches 6 months of uptime. Typically I reboot it when I physically need to move it or when I leave on vacation for several weeks. No fancy graphic card and I'm using underpowered CPUs so that the max TDP is low. The thing is really not drawing much current when idle so I don't care about leaving it always on.
(btw SpAmRaY thanks for that link of mine you fixed in the other thread)
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- Mac mini: Spinning HDD, used daily, put to sleep overnight and when not in use. Just ordered a drive carrier for a second drive and will be swapping in a SSD and will power off when not in use.
It's not too bad, but installing the second drive is made way more difficult than it had to be by the "looks design" at apple. I think form should follow function, apple sacrifices almost everything for form.
Yeah, just read the guide on this and it looks pretty fun. Shy of melting the aluminum down, you basically have to take everything apart, eh?
Oh well, good weekend project.
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- Mac mini: Spinning HDD, used daily, put to sleep overnight and when not in use. Just ordered a drive carrier for a second drive and will be swapping in a SSD and will power off when not in use.
It's not too bad, but installing the second drive is made way more difficult than it had to be by the "looks design" at apple. I think form should follow function, apple sacrifices almost everything for form.
Yeah, just read the guide on this and it looks pretty fun. Shy of melting the aluminum down, you basically have to take everything apart, eh?
Oh well, good weekend project.
nah it's not that bad: you don't have to take the MB apart that much, just take the RAM out so you can slide it out of the case a little. If you want I can see if I can dig up the apple hardware maintenance manual on it. Apple makes the best ones with pretty picutres and screw charts and everything. It's annoying, but straightforward. I think installing a second drive is easier than the first because the hardest part is slotting the drive into the "stop" in the case blind. You just have to fiddle with it until it works. And the power cable always gets in the way. Once you have the first in, the second one lies pretty much on top of it so it's pretty easy to slot into place. Just keep trying and you'll get it. Sometimes it'll slot in right away with no issues. If you run into trouble, PM me or whatever and I should be able to help.
It's not like replacing the powerbutton on an imac. Requires you to replace the back case, having to take everything out of the old one and put into the new: takes an experienced technician all day.
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...but it is probably not wrong to assume that the "computer being on" also implies an endless connection to the "world-wide-web" where, every type of nastiness resides, relentlessly seeking entrance into the inner sanctum of your essence.
In my case it's wrong :)
I'm "paranoid" too: the main user account I use for accessing the Web is... living entirely in ram! It's created by a tiny script which sets up a temporary user directory in ram and copies the web browser into that temp directory. All it takes is one command to kill the current browser, delete that entire user dir and re-create it, copy the browser (locally, to that user dir) and then launch that browser. A security exploit would need to first exploit a security hole in the browser and then manage to escalate privileges to be able to compromise my "real" users accounts. It's not impossible but I'm not losing sleep over it.
That and my ethernet switch is, on purpose, near my desk so I can turn the switch's power off when I go to sleep (being paranoid my workstation has, of course, no WiFi capabilities).
That said I realize it's definitely not the norm to run a browser in a throwaway user account living in ram ::)
Now, as a developer using my computer as a tool to make a living, the one thing that pisses me off the most is when it crashes. It's not that I "need" six months of uptime for my workstation: it's that the fact that my workstation can trivially reach six months of uptime is quite a hint that the system is rock stable solid.
The other benefit is that by running Debian Linux on my workstation and seeing how stable that thing is, I gives me confidence that my servers running Debian Linux are stable too.
So I can work and be quite confident that, baring any hardware issue, my computers will simply do their duty without making me lose my time with crashes / reboot / unstable behavior :)
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In my case it's wrong :)
I'm "paranoid" too: the main user account I use for accessing the Web is... living entirely in ram! It's created by a tiny script which sets up a temporary user directory in ram and copies the web browser into that temp directory. All it takes is one command to kill the current browser, delete that entire user dir and re-create it, copy the browser (locally, to that user dir) and then launch that browser. A security exploit would need to first exploit a security hole in the browser and then manage to escalate privileges to be able to compromise my "real" users accounts. It's not impossible but I'm not losing sleep over it.
Wow that's really cool! Is this Linux? I think I'd know how to make that work. Maybe I'll give it a shot.
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I usually restart whenever something starts becoming quirky. Which is usually after a week or so of uptime.
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In my case it's wrong :)
I'm "paranoid" too: the main user account I use for accessing the Web is... living entirely in ram! It's created by a tiny script which sets up a temporary user directory in ram and copies the web browser into that temp directory. All it takes is one command to kill the current browser, delete that entire user dir and re-create it, copy the browser (locally, to that user dir) and then launch that browser. A security exploit would need to first exploit a security hole in the browser and then manage to escalate privileges to be able to compromise my "real" users accounts. It's not impossible but I'm not losing sleep over it.
Wow that's really cool! Is this Linux? I think I'd know how to make that work. Maybe I'll give it a shot.
Yup it's linux... I just created a shell script that mounts a tmpfs (or ramfs: the two have different properties), unzips the browser in that directory, links that directory to the user's home dir ("ln -s $MY_TEMP_DIR /home/temp") and that's basically it. There's really not much to it: basically /etc/passwd is not modified and reference /home/temp as the directory for user "temp". It's just that this directory doesn't really "exist": the shellscript simply symlinks to it using "ln" once the ramdisk has been setup.
The main user account allows the temp user to display graphical program in its X session and the temp user exports the DISPLAY=:0.0 and then displays its browser on the main user's graphical session.
You can always be more paranoid/secure, say by running it all in a sandbox / VM or even surfing from a dedicated diskless "read-only" computer or whatever but I'm prefectly happy with my setup : )
When I want to exchange files between user accounts (typically a PDF), I simply copy it to the /tmp/ dir or to some shared dir.
I set this up ages ago and the thing keeps working fine. I simply update the browser to be unzipped once in a while to get the latest version but that's it.
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In my case it's wrong :)
I'm "paranoid" too: the main user account I use for accessing the Web is... living entirely in ram! It's created by a tiny script which sets up a temporary user directory in ram and copies the web browser into that temp directory. All it takes is one command to kill the current browser, delete that entire user dir and re-create it, copy the browser (locally, to that user dir) and then launch that browser. A security exploit would need to first exploit a security hole in the browser and then manage to escalate privileges to be able to compromise my "real" users accounts. It's not impossible but I'm not losing sleep over it.
Wow that's really cool! Is this Linux? I think I'd know how to make that work. Maybe I'll give it a shot.
You could also look into chroot jails.
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I think I can count on one hand how many times I've restarted my win 8.1 machine
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I think I can count on one hand how many times I've restarted my win 8.1 machine
only had it for 2 weeks or do you just never install updates?
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I shut mine down every night!
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People restart their machines?!?!
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never unless something is acting up
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I shut mine down every night!
Living GREEN
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To be honest, now with SSDs, I turn my desktop off when I'm not using it (plus, it's greener). The Mac in the studio just goes to sleep when I am not using it, and only gets rebooted when Logic starts acting up...
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people that never restart their windows machines explains the insane amount of malware infections....
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people that never restart their windows machines explains the insane amount of malware infections....
People running Windows machines in the first place explains the insane amount of malware infections ... :p
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people that never restart their windows machines explains the insane amount of malware infections....
That's just plain not true. I rarely ever reboot my computer and strictly monitor all network traffic in and out of my router, as well as all processes running on my system (including using a couple tricks to expose rootkit-type processes). In over 15 years of working with and using computers, I've had precisely one infection (and that was 14 years ago).
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people that never restart their windows machines explains the insane amount of malware infections....
People running Windows machines in the first place explains the insane amount of malware infections ... :p
people that never restart their windows machines explains the insane amount of malware infections....
That's just plain not true. I rarely ever reboot my computer and strictly monitor all network traffic in and out of my router, as well as all processes running on my system (including using a couple tricks to expose rootkit-type processes). In over 15 years of working with and using computers, I've had precisely one infection (and that was 14 years ago).
It is possible to spread malware to every OS, it's just less time consuming to produce it for the 90% of the people on earth. I own PC and Mac, lets try not to be biased about it :P
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Once a week is about right for Win7. Older builds of WinDoze I'd say daily.
Linux, you restart it when you upgrade the hardware.
That said, I don't leave my PC running, why waste the power? Unless it's winter and it's cold where you live and electricity is cheaper / as cheap as the other ways you warm your house.
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Just ... Wow ... wtf !?
Why would you leave the computer running while not using it!?
Are you too lazy to turn it off?
Cannot wait 2 minutes for booting?
Don't know that this thing is using electricity, and you have to pay for it?
I'm turning the computer on when I need it, and I'm turning it off when I stop working on it (for a longer period of time, otherwise sleepmode)
Seems to be common sense to me ...
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Just ... Wow ... wtf !?
Why would you leave the computer running while not using it!?
Are you too lazy to turn it off?
Cannot wait 2 minutes for booting?
Don't know that this thing is using electricity, and you have to pay for it?
I'm turning the computer on when I need it, and I'm turning it off when I stop working on it (for a longer period of time, otherwise sleepmode)
Seems to be common sense to me ...
wellllllll.... 8 years ago.. it would've been quite wasteful to leave the PC on.
But... these days.. you're looking at less than 20 watt for some of the low power builds.. so... that really doesn't add up to much relative to the rest of your gizmos.
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Ever heard of suspend to RAM/disk/both? What about remote connection? What about hardware designed to run 24/7?
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I shut my home desktop down as soon as I know I wont need it for the next hour... kind of the same way I turn my water taps off after washing my hands. It sucks 80W at idle, not much but why burn the energy needlessly?
My work PC is on all the time for remote access. I turn off the monitors at the end of the day.
Low power home server in on 24x7 as it's regularly connected to a couple of other sites overseas. Burns 40W.
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That means: I turn my computer off every night and back on the next day. If it weren't for the wife and kids, I would do the same for the modem and router.
I do the same thing, actually I only turn my computer on when I need to use it. The electricity cost of keeping it on all the time when I am not even using it is too darn high. Plus, then I'd be paying for something when I am not even using it.
P.S. I'm in my 20s, this is not an old man thing. Unless I'm actually a weird and paranoid young man and too young to realise it of course. :eek:
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I restart mine once about a month, but the longest uptime I have gone was about 70 days. My dad was running a server in our basement on an old laptop and the longest it was up for was over 1000 days.
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I have a hackintosh so if I don't boot OSX once a day it gets mad. ^-^
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I restart daily.
that being said, older HDD's can take on quite a bit of wear and tear by going through thousands of heat cycles throughout their lives. But I bet the electricity bill will be more expensive for leaving it on than the cost of a new HDD.
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Why would you leave the computer running while not using it!?
Because I'm a professional and it's my main tool and I don't want to waste time. Although my system may "boot" in less than twenty seconds, I'd then need to: launch my favorite text editor + open all the files I was working on, launch my IDE (IntelliJ IDEA) + open all the files I was working on, launch the three browsers I'm using (in three different user accounts) + re-open all the tabs that were open, launch the VMs that are running, re-open the network connection to remote servers (SSH), etc. :thumb:
I could script all that to re-open automatically but it would take quite a while to come all back up.
Not to mention automated backup happening at night and being SCP'ed automatically to remote servers.
I've got an 80+ gold certified alim or whatever the norm is and my PC at full-speed (100% usage on all cores) is dissipating so few energy that it has a passive cooler (no fan). It is so quiet while running that at first I'd sometimes turn it off thinking it was off, etc. At idle that thing is consuming next to nothing.
By the way: I own a very old Nokia 6110 or something like that (a dumbphone). That thing hardly consume any energy and can stay on for three weeks without needing to be plugged and is perfect for giving/receiving phone calls/text messages and is a fine alarm clock. Why do you even own a smartphone? :o
Regarding the tap water analogy: I think it actually makes a very strong case for leaving the PC idling with all its software / windows / tabs open instead of turning everything off ... When you turn it on you get water instantly. Not after two minutes. Not after twenty seconds. ;)
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At a risk of going off on a tangent:
The tap analogy was mine. I was using it to try make a point not about convenience, but rather about using non-renewable resources- in a fair chunk of the developed world water overuse permanently damages underground aquafiers, similarly the bulk of our electricity comes from non renewable sources (70% of US power is from fossil fuels).
I guess a better analogy might be that I don't leave the *hot* water tap running all the time, just to save the 60 or so seconds it takes for hot water to start coming out the faucet (and that 60 seconds really does bug me!). My time has some value (I leave my work PC on, and at home I leave things like wifi on all the time), but at home I'm a little more relaxed, a little more concious of power bills, and a little more concious that I have kids who are going to inherit problems of my generation's creation.
Also, I kind of find the whole bootup and login process strangely relaxing (as long as it's SSD) at home. Yeah, I know that sounds weird.
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Since I use my PC as a TeamSpeak server, an FTP server, and a web server, I try to keep it running at all times. Meaning I only restart if Steam is being a **** and won't launch my games. Which happens so frequently, I restart about once a week.
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Never, if I can help it. Some friends from college even started a company (KSplice, now an Oracle company) to apply Linux kernel updates in flight.
I don't want to start an uptime contest but my work Linux workstation tells me:
jsoltren@lonestar:~$ uptime
11:06:12 up 225 days, 2:01, 17 users, load average: 0.57, 1.16, 1.25
Granted, my employer pays the electric bill.
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Turn off when I go to bed, turn on after work/after I cook dinner, etc.
I have my MacBook Air floating around my apartment which is always doing whatever it does when the lid is closed, so I really use that a majority of the time.
The only thing that bugs me about it is from what I understand it is better for HDDs to spin continuously instead of start/stop regularly. However I haven't had any issues in years so maybe it's not so bad if they're kept running cool and under moderate load.
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Turn off when I go to bed, turn on after work/after I cook dinner, etc.
I have my MacBook Air floating around my apartment which is always doing whatever it does when the lid is closed, so I really use that a majority of the time.
The only thing that bugs me about it is from what I understand it is better for HDDs to spin continuously instead of start/stop regularly. However I haven't had any issues in years so maybe it's not so bad if they're kept running cool and under moderate load.
macbook air doesn't have a spinner, does it?
But.. the thing about the spinning drives is.. Heating and COoling isn't good, and starting voltage isn't good for the circuits..
But.. my media drives will spin up 2 times per day total.. they're rated for 5000-10000 starts.. so it's gonna be a WHILE..
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macbook air doesn't have a spinner, does it?
But.. the thing about the spinning drives is.. Heating and COoling isn't good, and starting voltage isn't good for the circuits..
But.. my media drives will spin up 2 times per day total.. they're rated for 5000-10000 starts.. so it's gonna be a WHILE..
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Nah the MBA is an SSD, was talking about my desktop PC. Yeah with what they're rated for there probably isn't actually anything to worry about.
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macbook air doesn't have a spinner, does it?
But.. the thing about the spinning drives is.. Heating and COoling isn't good, and starting voltage isn't good for the circuits..
But.. my media drives will spin up 2 times per day total.. they're rated for 5000-10000 starts.. so it's gonna be a WHILE..
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Nah the MBA is an SSD, was talking about my desktop PC. Yeah with what they're rated for there probably isn't actually anything to worry about.
Yeah that's if you were to spin it down after every file retrieval, or such. Once a day shutting it down isn't going to do anything. It's similar to the idea that you're not supposed to start up your car too frequently, meaning every 20 minutes (or less maybe); once a day is fine.
Note: I am not an expert.
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I seem to turn mine off every other night. The nights I don't turn it off, it goes into sleep mode after 3 to 4 hours (sometimes I have things downloading that I want to finish before I wake up).
I shut my monitor off every single time I get up from my chair though.