Post by: Umio1 on Sun, 29 December 2019, 16:09:12
GROUP BUY PAGE OPEN: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105033.msg2873354#msg2873354
ORDER FORMS ARE OPEN.
I started this project because I needed a keyboard to replace my worn out $5 Logitech keyboard, and I wanted something a little more practical for CAD work, but there weren't very many options on the market for keyboards with a left hand number pad; so I made my own. Some friends and coworkers took interest in the board so I'm here to see if others are interested as well to help get the price down below $150 by getting at least 25 people interested.
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Details
- 65% with Left Hand NumPad
- Case Angle: 7 Degrees
- Case Material: Anodized 60601-T6 Aluminum
- USB-C
- Dimensions (mm): 111 x 396 x 12 (LxWxH)
- Hot Swap-able Switches (MX)
- 2 Rubber Cone Feet
- Mounting Method: 10 M2 x 6mm machine screws
- Custom PCB
- 1.5mm thick Plate
- Price Goal of less than $150 with at least 25 people
Case and Plate Pictures
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PCB Photos
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Approximate Price Breakdown Based on 25 Orders. (USD)
- Case Base: $64 (includes any color anodize)
- Case Plate: $8 (includes any color anodize)
- PCB Manufacturing: $10
- PCB Assembly: ~$30 (this is a high estimate)
- Kaihl Hot Swap Sockets: $10
- 2Mx6mm Screws: $4
- 4Mx4mm Screws: $5
- Aluminum Cone Feet: $6
The case and plate can be anodized in any color, and is included in the price. I will contact 3DHubs for their definite color selection because the RAL colors they offer aren't accurate to what is actually received.
The Kaihl Hot swap Sockets are the only piece that will need to be soldered onto the board once it is received.
If interested here is a Google form to collect number of interested people:
https://forms.gle/tT7g8mUXrfB7ydQ87
IMGUR Build Album:
https://imgur.com/gallery/UPyRTVN
Updates
(12/29/19) - Google form added options for High profile, and other Key Layouts
(1/20/20) - Work in Progress Renders for the High profile case:https://imgur.com/gallery/IfyFQLm (https://imgur.com/gallery/IfyFQLm)
- Case design set (based on mahjong tile)
- Feet/back-design mounting method needs to be chosen
- Center plate needs mounting holes & small fit changes to be made
- Thinking about doing powdercoat for the high profile
- PCB is completed and fully quoted ~ $25-30 for manufacturing and assembly
- Case designs are both completed and ready to be quoted/put into production; I cannot get a good quote at the moment because of all the Corona Virus causing delays with all of Chinese manufacturing
- Recently ran into a snag with the finishing process for the boards the place i was originally going to get powdercoat done had a fire so i'll have to check for other locations and get prices: here are colors im thinking of going with (the green, white and black are definites but the others are up in the air; going to offer 5 color options) https://imgur.com/bD4q3oN
- Back Emblem will be mounted using VHB tape
50 Hi-Pro for the first round and going to get quotes to see how many I will do for the Low-pro
(3/2/20) - All files uploaded to GitHub: https://github.com/Neil-de-grass-eating-Bisson/Canvas-Mahjong-Keyboards
(3/10/20) - Group buy and order forms are open: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105033.msg2873354#msg2873354
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Post by: eskimojo on Sun, 29 December 2019, 16:12:42
Post by: lukelex on Sun, 29 December 2019, 16:52:52
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Post by: Dorihoile on Sun, 29 December 2019, 17:21:40
Post by: YMwoo on Sun, 29 December 2019, 17:46:47
would love to see hight profile and ideally have the screws on the bottom so they arent visible from the top to keep a clean look, ideally also a standard bottom row, with either 2 1.25u keys and a blocker between them and the arrow keys or three 1u keys ideally the first option just to keep things more standard for more people and keep it cleaner and more aesthetically pleasing really love the look and layout tho and think it has a great potential :)+1 to this (high profile, no screw, standard bottom row)
Post by: honoka on Sun, 29 December 2019, 17:50:12
Hotswap is a big plus, but if that is hindering the ability for more layout options, like the bottom row configuration for example, I would maybe drop it.
Also, ISO for hugs.
Edit:
I cant explain it, but the mounting looks 'harsh'. If there is any room for rubber gaskets or at least rubber o-rings or something similiar at the mounting points that could improve typing feel and accoustics.
Post by: Umio1 on Sun, 29 December 2019, 19:34:44
Like the idea but how's this a 65% though? Are TKL's gonna be called 60% with f-row and arrows now?
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I was under the assumption this is the only instance you call it 65% is with the left numpad; What else would you call it? 78% :p?
Post by: Umio1 on Sun, 29 December 2019, 19:48:23
would love to see hight profile and ideally have the screws on the bottom so they arent visible from the top to keep a clean look, ideally also a standard bottom row, with either 2 1.25u keys and a blocker between them and the arrow keys or three 1u keys ideally the first option just to keep things more standard for more people and keep it cleaner and more aesthetically pleasing really love the look and layout tho and think it has a great potential :)+1 to this (high profile, no screw, standard bottom row)
I was actually thinking about making a high profile case soon, with screws on the back, and standard bottom row (I already have the CAD model and PCB ready to go for manufacturing) :P .
(https://i.imgur.com/rh4RXL3.png)
The only thing is, making a case high profile increases the cost to manufacture because there are more parts; this board is me trying to get it as low cost and utilitarian as possible, hence the "White Fox" style assembly.
I'll definitely add a standard layout to allow for more compatible keycapsets to this build if it gets to group buy stage.
If the highprofile option is preferred I will create a new IC for it!
Post by: YMwoo on Sun, 29 December 2019, 20:46:41
would love to see hight profile and ideally have the screws on the bottom so they arent visible from the top to keep a clean look, ideally also a standard bottom row, with either 2 1.25u keys and a blocker between them and the arrow keys or three 1u keys ideally the first option just to keep things more standard for more people and keep it cleaner and more aesthetically pleasing really love the look and layout tho and think it has a great potential :)+1 to this (high profile, no screw, standard bottom row)
I was actually thinking about making a high profile case soon, with screws on the back, and standard bottom row (I already have the CAD model and PCB ready to go for manufacturing) :P .Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rh4RXL3.png)
The only thing is, making a case high profile increases the cost to manufacture because there are more parts; this board is me trying to get it as low cost and utilitarian as possible, hence the "White Fox" style assembly.
I'll definitely add a standard layout to allow for more compatible keycapsets to this build if it gets to group buy stage.
If the highprofile option is preferred I will create a new IC for it!
Great news then! I like that look!
Maybe offer it as an option if possible? The low price point is one of the main attraction indeed and as long as the high profile doesn't make it over $200, i think it's quite acceptable.
Two questions:
- Assuming everything is smooth, when is the ETA?
- What do you think (if possible) to change the logo blocker to the position above right arrow? I dont mind the logo, but personally, I rarely use that spot for my 65%
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Sun, 29 December 2019, 20:57:27
Post by: lush_bunny on Sun, 29 December 2019, 20:58:49
Post by: zakatak on Sun, 29 December 2019, 21:14:21
Post by: Umio1 on Sun, 29 December 2019, 22:54:52
Let's say I don't use the feet. 0° angle then?
Yep, the bottom is completely flat
Post by: Umio1 on Sun, 29 December 2019, 23:56:38
would love to see hight profile and ideally have the screws on the bottom so they arent visible from the top to keep a clean look, ideally also a standard bottom row, with either 2 1.25u keys and a blocker between them and the arrow keys or three 1u keys ideally the first option just to keep things more standard for more people and keep it cleaner and more aesthetically pleasing really love the look and layout tho and think it has a great potential :)+1 to this (high profile, no screw, standard bottom row)
I was actually thinking about making a high profile case soon, with screws on the back, and standard bottom row (I already have the CAD model and PCB ready to go for manufacturing) :P .Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rh4RXL3.png)
The only thing is, making a case high profile increases the cost to manufacture because there are more parts; this board is me trying to get it as low cost and utilitarian as possible, hence the "White Fox" style assembly.
I'll definitely add a standard layout to allow for more compatible keycapsets to this build if it gets to group buy stage.
If the highprofile option is preferred I will create a new IC for it!
Great news then! I like that look!
Maybe offer it as an option if possible? The low price point is one of the main attraction indeed and as long as the high profile doesn't make it over $200, i think it's quite acceptable.
Two questions:
- Assuming everything is smooth, when is the ETA?
- What do you think (if possible) to change the logo blocker to the position above right arrow? I dont mind the logo, but personally, I rarely use that spot for my 65%
I just whipped up some quick quotes for what I currently have for the high profile design and its coming together around $200 which is significantly cheaper than I thought it would be!
To answer your questions:
If everything goes smooth I'd probably start a group buy middle of February to avoid the manufacturing delays and chaos around Chinese New Year, give that about a month, then i'd give manufacturing and shipping to people a conservative 2 months.
For the logo Block, I think it would look misplaced in that positions, but thats just my opinion. If enough people want it I don't see why I couldn't make the change.
Post by: Kokaloo on Mon, 30 December 2019, 00:26:33
Post by: IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES on Mon, 30 December 2019, 00:27:22
Post by: SleepIsAllINeed on Mon, 30 December 2019, 00:58:23
Post by: YMwoo on Mon, 30 December 2019, 01:44:50
I just whipped up some quick quotes for what I currently have for the high profile design and its coming together around $200 which is significantly cheaper than I thought it would be!February sounds nice and around $200 (hoping it'll be under) would be nice, just hoping that it won't be a limited GB though.
To answer your questions:
If everything goes smooth I'd probably start a group buy middle of February to avoid the manufacturing delays and chaos around Chinese New Year, give that about a month, then i'd give manufacturing and shipping to people a conservative 2 months.
For the logo Block, I think it would look misplaced in that positions, but thats just my opinion. If enough people want it I don't see why I couldn't make the change.
pretty sure it can be quite popular. ;D
as for the logo block, i'd understand. i just thought of something like Think 6.5 but smaller blocker (only occupies 1 key). it's very uncommon indeed and might be just me. i just like to have my DEL key right besides Backspace.
anyway, i'm so excited for this, hopefully everything goes well! :thumb:
Post by: lukelex on Mon, 30 December 2019, 03:28:32
78%. Not a bad idea. Better than the misleading 65%+numpad shenanigan.Like the idea but how's this a 65% though? Are TKL's gonna be called 60% with f-row and arrows now?
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I was under the assumption this is the only instance you call it 65% is with the left numpad; What else would you call it? 78% :p?
If a newcomer is searching the forum for 65%, this one is definitely not what he'd be looking for (happened to me multiple times eons ago)
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Post by: stoffelduss on Mon, 30 December 2019, 04:31:27
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 30 December 2019, 04:38:37
+1 for high profile! I like the blocker on the design as well. One thing i'd suggest is some space between the numpad and the rest. Pricing has me definitely interested.
+1 for space between numpad and the rest of the layout. I need to know when my leftside mods end and when my numbers begin without looking.
Post by: eskimojo on Mon, 30 December 2019, 06:32:39
would love to see hight profile and ideally have the screws on the bottom so they arent visible from the top to keep a clean look, ideally also a standard bottom row, with either 2 1.25u keys and a blocker between them and the arrow keys or three 1u keys ideally the first option just to keep things more standard for more people and keep it cleaner and more aesthetically pleasing really love the look and layout tho and think it has a great potential :)+1 to this (high profile, no screw, standard bottom row)
I was actually thinking about making a high profile case soon, with screws on the back, and standard bottom row (I already have the CAD model and PCB ready to go for manufacturing) :P .Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rh4RXL3.png)
The only thing is, making a case high profile increases the cost to manufacture because there are more parts; this board is me trying to get it as low cost and utilitarian as possible, hence the "White Fox" style assembly.
I'll definitely add a standard layout to allow for more compatible keycapsets to this build if it gets to group buy stage.
If the highprofile option is preferred I will create a new IC for it!
This looks great! Is the plate separate from the top/bottom (ideally top mount)? If it is, you can provide compatibility in a soldered PCB, and people can get a custom plate cut (providing you release a DXF file) to get anything that you don't want to include in a default plate (ISO for example).
I recommend something like this: KLE here (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/746bf0d0b9891bfdf3e87842acfce64b)
(https://i.imgur.com/zoBQL1t.png)
Post by: E.E.L. Ambiense on Mon, 30 December 2019, 08:54:06
Post by: Koatl on Mon, 30 December 2019, 10:03:59
Numpad and arrow cluster division possibility are great. Not a fan of the content on the back, or upper right blocker of hipro. But I wish you the best on this one.
Post by: Umio1 on Mon, 30 December 2019, 12:16:45
25 spots for a 200$ hi-pro board is gonna last 10 seconds
25 was the minimum haha, if it gets too crazy i'd probably do a couple runs.
Post by: Umio1 on Mon, 30 December 2019, 12:26:17
Very happy to see another southpaw 65. It's become my favorite layout.
Numpad and arrow cluster division possibility are great. Not a fan of the content on the back, or upper right blocker of hipro. But I wish you the best on this one.
The back engraving was done just for my personal board and wouldn't be on any others. Though I am planning on using the upper blocker logo.
Post by: Koatl on Mon, 30 December 2019, 13:26:21
The back engraving was done just for my personal board and wouldn't be on any others. Though I am planning on using the upper blocker logo.
Oh thanks! In that case went ahead and filled out form. Interested in lowpro with a nice blank back. I myself would be getting a black case one way or another, with either a cyan or pink plate.
Post by: Snakeboat on Mon, 30 December 2019, 18:40:01
Post by: Alex-CS on Tue, 31 December 2019, 14:57:35
PS. The title is fine, "65% + Left NumPad" perfectly describes this keyboard :thumb:
Post by: GraffitiDecos on Wed, 01 January 2020, 14:15:34
Keep it up!
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Post by: Umio1 on Wed, 01 January 2020, 18:28:18
Loving this! Would love the option for reverse Numpad. Either way for the price point I'd jump on this in a heartbeat.
Keep it up!
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when you say reverse numpad, you mean with the + and Enter key on the other side and number order reversed?
Post by: GraffitiDecos on Wed, 01 January 2020, 18:32:41
Yessir! Reversed/mirrored. The whole Numpad is mirrored. 123 becomes 321. 456 - 654 and so on. I've never used it, but the muscle memory (fingering on the keys; pinky on +,- and enter, thumb for 2u 0, index on 1)Loving this! Would love the option for reverse Numpad. Either way for the price point I'd jump on this in a heartbeat.
Keep it up!
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when you say reverse numpad, you mean with the + and Enter key on the other side and number order reversed?
Probably not possible in hotswap though if you only want one PCB.
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Post by: Umio1 on Thu, 02 January 2020, 20:02:46
(https://i.imgur.com/NSRhTqW.png)
Post by: E.E.L. Ambiense on Thu, 02 January 2020, 20:17:35
Post by: Umio1 on Fri, 03 January 2020, 08:59:10
Is it possible to get it in raw uncoated finish, for those of us that do their own coating? Just curious if that's a possibility.
Yeah that will be possible!
When you say raw unfinished I assume you'd still want it machined smooth/bead blasted; I have also heard a clear anodize is a good base for painting or adding other finishes.
Post by: E.E.L. Ambiense on Fri, 03 January 2020, 09:04:45
Yeah that will be possible!
When you say raw unfinished I assume you'd still want it machined smooth/bead blasted; I have also heard a clear anodize is a good base for painting or adding other finishes.
Nice! Thanks for that.
Yes, machined smooth and/or mediablasted is great. Basically, just taken off production line just prior to coating or anodizing.
Post by: Dissitesuxba11s on Fri, 03 January 2020, 09:47:57
Post by: sandvichs on Fri, 03 January 2020, 10:42:53
Great price for a hotswap kit though. Won't be joining personally but GL with this project!
Post by: stoffelduss on Fri, 03 January 2020, 14:48:00
Awfully strange to call this a 65% when it's essentially an F Row-less 95%.Awfully strange to call this a 95% when it's essentially a numpad-added 65% :eek: :thumb:
Post by: trojokid5 on Sat, 04 January 2020, 00:42:43
Post by: Umio1 on Sun, 05 January 2020, 12:31:25
I'm wondering when how heavy it is fully built, could it be made heavier(depending on what you say), and when could it be purchased.
It's about 1Lb for the switch plate and case, and about 1.5~1.8Lbs fully constructed. Planning on doing the group buy at the end of February so Chinese New Year doesn't affect the production.
Post by: trojokid5 on Sun, 05 January 2020, 13:25:32
ThanksI'm wondering when how heavy it is fully built, could it be made heavier(depending on what you say), and when could it be purchased.
It's about 1Lb for the switch plate and case, and about 1.5~1.8Lbs fully constructed. Planning on doing the group buy at the end of February so Chinese New Year doesn't affect the production.
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Post by: Umio1 on Mon, 20 January 2020, 01:42:45
(1/20/20) - Work in Progress Renders for the High profile case: https://imgur.com/gallery/IfyFQLm (https://imgur.com/gallery/IfyFQLm)
- Case design set with 4mm break between numpad and keys; a more normal key layout(based on mahjong tile)
- Feet/back-design mounting method needs to be chosen
- Center plate needs mounting holes & small fit changes to be made
- Thinking about doing powdercoat for the high profile
- no more keyblocker in the corner
Post by: stoffelduss on Mon, 20 January 2020, 03:36:59
Post by: Umio1 on Mon, 20 January 2020, 08:52:38
Looks great!! Will it stay the way you said earlier, that you need to solder hot-swap sockets onto the pcb? :/
Most likely yes; that will be the only part of the board you would have to solder. I could check if they are able to source the parts and assemble them but that may be unlikely.
Post by: Koatl on Tue, 21 January 2020, 09:38:31
I'm curious if the lotus weight on the back is going to increase cost/production/etc. I loved the simplicity of a blank back panel.
Post by: Umio1 on Wed, 22 January 2020, 09:33:52
Loving the new high-pro look. Definitely switching my interest from low to high now.
I'm curious if the lotus weight on the back is going to increase cost/production/etc. I loved the simplicity of a blank back panel.
I'm trying to maintain the cost of the high profile to around ~$200. The lotus on the back shouldn't affect the price too much, last time I checked it cost about ~$15 to produce 25 of them; though I have noticed raw material prices have been fluctuating month to month depending on what's going on politically.
Post by: JayVoltage on Fri, 24 January 2020, 12:19:28
Post by: Frolos on Mon, 27 January 2020, 12:39:04
Post by: Umio1 on Mon, 27 January 2020, 13:50:09
Would you be open to share the PCB design with us? Cool to see that there are more people who want this layout but i would like to design my own case around this layout.
That's the plan; i'll be making all of the files open source, I just need to finish up the newer layout's I've created and remove old components from the schematics. They'll probably be all released once the group buy is over.
Post by: Frolos on Mon, 27 January 2020, 14:15:10
Would you be open to share the PCB design with us? Cool to see that there are more people who want this layout but i would like to design my own case around this layout.
That's the plan; i'll be making all of the files open source, I just need to finish up the newer layout's I've created and remove old components from the schematics. They'll probably be all released once the group buy is over.
Great to hear, keeping my eyes peeled
Post by: 9mmninjamonkey on Mon, 27 January 2020, 22:02:09
Post by: Umio1 on Mon, 27 January 2020, 23:27:43
This is awesome! I love the layout. I'm definitely in. The added gap between the numpad/keyboard seems like a good idea differentiate it from the Southpaw 65.
Thanks for the feedback! I was actually hesitant to add the gap between the numpad, but once i saw it in the assembly I think it ended up looking cleaner.
Post by: YMwoo on Tue, 28 January 2020, 01:12:34
Doing great so far!
Post by: Umio1 on Thu, 30 January 2020, 10:05:23
I think this looks very nice. Not sure about color combination, but two-tone colors might be nice too.
Doing great so far!
The color is just my personal choice, there will definitely be more options available with the group buy; I'll try to get some samples before then.
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 30 January 2020, 13:00:34
Post by: dak148 on Thu, 30 January 2020, 13:46:46
Looks awesome. Wanted a South paw numpad for a while. Especially the high profile. I'm just not a fan of the brass emblem on the bottom. I thought it looked a lot cleaner with an empty base, or at most a relief or engraving on it. (I actually liked the wolf/husky symbol from the prototype). Or maybe just something more fitting to the name/theme of the design.
I agree about the back. Looked nicer on the prototype with the wolf! This would be a perfect work keyboard for me where I use the number pad a lot. In for it.
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 30 January 2020, 13:55:35
Agreed. That's what I'd use it for. Work. Would be amazing for data entry. Left hand entering numbers, right using mouse.Looks awesome. Wanted a South paw numpad for a while. Especially the high profile. I'm just not a fan of the brass emblem on the bottom. I thought it looked a lot cleaner with an empty base, or at most a relief or engraving on it. (I actually liked the wolf/husky symbol from the prototype). Or maybe just something more fitting to the name/theme of the design.
I agree about the back. Looked nicer on the prototype with the wolf! This would be a perfect work keyboard for me where I use the number pad a lot. In for it.
But yeah, if removing the brass symbol (which isn't really a weight but a flourish rarely seen) reduces it from $200 to $185, I'm all for it.
Post by: Koatl on Thu, 30 January 2020, 14:26:08
But yeah, if removing the brass symbol (which isn't really a weight but a flourish rarely seen) reduces it from $200 to $185, I'm all for it.
I'd be down paying same amount without symbol. As is, I'm hoping just leaving the symbol out won't make it look or feel weird. Maybe I'll slap a sticker in there.
Post by: stoffelduss on Thu, 30 January 2020, 16:39:16
Granted, that's also the reason why I don't care much for the symbol either; it simply won't be visible very often. But I'd say I'd be against offering many options regarding the symbol IF it increases cost for everyone to have options.
Post by: Zeelobby on Thu, 30 January 2020, 18:33:12
I don't really understand why the symbol being there would be a problem when using it as a work keyboard, it's on the underside, do you lift your keyboard up that often?I mean cheapest solution is just no symbol. It's just a personal pet peeve of mine. I don't mind branding when it's integrated into the case, or into a weight, both functional reasons. But who knows how it'll effect sound and it's purely aesthetic.
Granted, that's also the reason why I don't care much for the symbol either; it simply won't be visible very often. But I'd say I'd be against offering many options regarding the symbol IF it increases cost for everyone to have options.
Plus I just don't care about mahjong. And it doesn't seem to have any tie-in to the creator, board name, etc. Or at least none that's obvious. I would plan to use this board at work. And will carry it around to terminals, and people will be like, what's that? And I'll say "mahjong flower" and they'll ask "you play mahjong" and I'll be like, "nope". Haha.
That said it's the creators decision, if they like it they should go for it. I'll just skip.
Post by: stoffelduss on Fri, 31 January 2020, 05:46:36
Alright I understand. I'd also support no symbol :) Maybe no symbol would be the best solution.I don't really understand why the symbol being there would be a problem when using it as a work keyboard, it's on the underside, do you lift your keyboard up that often?I mean cheapest solution is just no symbol. It's just a personal pet peeve of mine. I don't mind branding when it's integrated into the case, or into a weight, both functional reasons. But who knows how it'll effect sound and it's purely aesthetic.
Granted, that's also the reason why I don't care much for the symbol either; it simply won't be visible very often. But I'd say I'd be against offering many options regarding the symbol IF it increases cost for everyone to have options.
Plus I just don't care about mahjong. And it doesn't seem to have any tie-in to the creator, board name, etc. Or at least none that's obvious. I would plan to use this board at work. And will carry it around to terminals, and people will be like, what's that? And I'll say "mahjong flower" and they'll ask "you play mahjong" and I'll be like, "nope". Haha.
That said it's the creators decision, if they like it they should go for it. I'll just skip.
I'm more worried about if soldering the hot swap sockets isn't too difficult :/ Don't want to buy an expensive keyboard then **** up the assembly. Is it not much more difficult than simply soldering switches?
Post by: Umio1 on Fri, 31 January 2020, 17:48:32
I don't really understand why the symbol being there would be a problem when using it as a work keyboard, it's on the underside, do you lift your keyboard up that often?I mean cheapest solution is just no symbol. It's just a personal pet peeve of mine. I don't mind branding when it's integrated into the case, or into a weight, both functional reasons. But who knows how it'll effect sound and it's purely aesthetic.
Granted, that's also the reason why I don't care much for the symbol either; it simply won't be visible very often. But I'd say I'd be against offering many options regarding the symbol IF it increases cost for everyone to have options.
Plus I just don't care about mahjong. And it doesn't seem to have any tie-in to the creator, board name, etc. Or at least none that's obvious. I would plan to use this board at work. And will carry it around to terminals, and people will be like, what's that? And I'll say "mahjong flower" and they'll ask "you play mahjong" and I'll be like, "nope". Haha.
That said it's the creators decision, if they like it they should go for it. I'll just skip.
I do plan on using the symbol for the board just to make it stand out from just another keyboard; make it a little more personal. I still plan on keeping the high-profile option ~$200 + shipping.
I decided i wanted to leave the front of the keyboard clean and keep the detail on back to keep the design a little more subtle.
As for the Mahjong reference; I am indeed a Taiwanese American; played a lot of mahjong in college. As long as you choose not to have a green a white board I don't think people will recognize it as a Mahjong tile :P just a lotus flower.
Post by: Umio1 on Fri, 31 January 2020, 17:57:55
Alright I understand. I'd also support no symbol :) Maybe no symbol would be the best solution.I don't really understand why the symbol being there would be a problem when using it as a work keyboard, it's on the underside, do you lift your keyboard up that often?I mean cheapest solution is just no symbol. It's just a personal pet peeve of mine. I don't mind branding when it's integrated into the case, or into a weight, both functional reasons. But who knows how it'll effect sound and it's purely aesthetic.
Granted, that's also the reason why I don't care much for the symbol either; it simply won't be visible very often. But I'd say I'd be against offering many options regarding the symbol IF it increases cost for everyone to have options.
Plus I just don't care about mahjong. And it doesn't seem to have any tie-in to the creator, board name, etc. Or at least none that's obvious. I would plan to use this board at work. And will carry it around to terminals, and people will be like, what's that? And I'll say "mahjong flower" and they'll ask "you play mahjong" and I'll be like, "nope". Haha.
That said it's the creators decision, if they like it they should go for it. I'll just skip.
I'm more worried about if soldering the hot swap sockets isn't too difficult :/ Don't want to buy an expensive keyboard then **** up the assembly. Is it not much more difficult than simply soldering switches?
You shouldn't need to worry about the soldering being difficult; the hotswap sockets are really easy to solder/desolder. I used my grandpa's old soldering iron he used on his cars, and even then i ended up soldering them the wrong direction the first time and had to go back and desolder and resolder them all. Everything still works even though a pad pulled up when desoldering. was a big learning expereince not to get too excited and solder away without making sure the parts are in the correct direction!
Here you can see I fixed the pad i pulled up by hot gluing it down and then soldering the column like you would on a non-PCB board. Doesn't look pretty after all the desoldering/flywiring because of my mistake but it ended up working out.
(https://i.imgur.com/hdwEUZ2.jpg)
and heres a view of the sockets on backwards pre finding out i made the mistake :P
(https://i.imgur.com/fMfnH1u.jpg)
Post by: Zeelobby on Fri, 31 January 2020, 18:12:10
Haha. This might be a super valid point. It might really be the green and white plus the symbol which makes it seem overly mahjong. Haha. With a nice gray/black it might look really good.I don't really understand why the symbol being there would be a problem when using it as a work keyboard, it's on the underside, do you lift your keyboard up that often?I mean cheapest solution is just no symbol. It's just a personal pet peeve of mine. I don't mind branding when it's integrated into the case, or into a weight, both functional reasons. But who knows how it'll effect sound and it's purely aesthetic.
Granted, that's also the reason why I don't care much for the symbol either; it simply won't be visible very often. But I'd say I'd be against offering many options regarding the symbol IF it increases cost for everyone to have options.
Plus I just don't care about mahjong. And it doesn't seem to have any tie-in to the creator, board name, etc. Or at least none that's obvious. I would plan to use this board at work. And will carry it around to terminals, and people will be like, what's that? And I'll say "mahjong flower" and they'll ask "you play mahjong" and I'll be like, "nope". Haha.
That said it's the creators decision, if they like it they should go for it. I'll just skip.
I do plan on using the symbol for the board just to make it stand out from just another keyboard; make it a little more personal. I still plan on keeping the high-profile option ~$200 + shipping.
I decided i wanted to leave the front of the keyboard clean and keep the detail on back to keep the design a little more subtle.
As for the Mahjong reference; I am indeed a Taiwanese American; played a lot of mahjong in college. As long as you choose not to have a green a white board I don't think people will recognize it as a Mahjong tilejust a lotus flower.
Post by: Inner-Ear on Sun, 02 February 2020, 18:10:35
Thank you :)
Post by: WhensRamen on Mon, 03 February 2020, 16:22:00
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Post by: Ahrimofnor on Tue, 04 February 2020, 18:10:23
Anyways, choice yours and all that. Much love for offering a hipro version.
Post by: Umio1 on Tue, 04 February 2020, 22:04:02
Awww no more husky logo on the back. That logo if engraved would actually be really good looking in my opinion.
Anyways, choice yours and all that. Much love for offering a hipro version.
Yeah, sadly if I offered to laser engrave all the boards I would be over committing :P i have limited access to a laser engraver but its about 50 minutes out and i can only reserve up to 2 hours a day.
Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Tue, 04 February 2020, 22:31:31
I think you would want to put some standoffs in the bottom case so the PCB would not fall down.
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 05 February 2020, 03:34:49
a bit of problem that I can see: this is a hotswap board and with current design, if all the switches are removed, the PCB would fall down.I have cases like this. Hotswap just means you can replace switches without desoldering/soldering. It doesn't mean your switching them out while waiting at the train station for funsies. Sure some boards with mounted/screwed PCBs allow that, but that's really not the purpose. Just unscrew the case and then switch them out. The hold of the hotswap and switches is enough to hold the plate up while in use except for on super flexible and have plate builds. Should be fine on this one.
I think you would want to put some standoffs in the bottom case so the PCB would not fall down.
Post by: fooddoof on Sun, 09 February 2020, 16:29:20
Also the mahjong color scheme is great, imo, but they also happen to be my old school colors, so heh. Curious to see the other proposes colors. Considering price won’t change with/out the emblem at the bottom, are you planning to make it part of a weight or no? Cool reference to your cultural background, appreciate it.
Again, great stuff—looking forward to the next updates!
Post by: stubtail42 on Sun, 09 February 2020, 21:53:58
Post by: majk_Pazuzu on Wed, 12 February 2020, 09:32:23
But to be honest, I'd take any iteration for the left hand numpad lol
Post by: adammliang on Thu, 13 February 2020, 13:10:10
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Post by: SekaiJutsu on Mon, 17 February 2020, 17:29:47
Post by: Umio1 on Mon, 17 February 2020, 23:00:03
- PCB is completed and fully quoted ~ $25-30 for manufacturing and assembly
- Case designs are both completed and ready to be quoted/put into production; I cannot get a good quote at the moment because of all the Corona Virus causing delays with all of Chinese manufacturing
- Recently ran into a snag with the finishing process for the boards the place i was originally going to get powdercoat done had a fire so i'll have to check for other locations and get prices: here are colors im thinking of going with (the green, white and black are definites but the others are up in the air; going to offer 5 color options) https://imgur.com/bD4q3oN
Post by: Top Right Logo on Mon, 17 February 2020, 23:20:26
Post by: lush_bunny on Mon, 17 February 2020, 23:22:42
(2/17/20) - Case and PCB designs finalized final---------- PICS OF THE CASE: https://imgur.com/gallery/ldWxSYE
- PCB is completed and fully quoted ~ $25-30 for manufacturing and assembly
- Case designs are both completed and ready to be quoted/put into production; I cannot get a good quote at the moment because of all the Corona Virus causing delays with all of Chinese manufacturing
- Recently ran into a snag with the finishing process for the boards the place i was originally going to get powdercoat done had a fire so i'll have to check for other locations and get prices: here are colors im thinking of going with (the green, white and black are definites but the others are up in the air; going to offer 5 color options) https://imgur.com/bD4q3oN
We are getting a 0.25u gap AND a right blocker? Yeeeessss.
Post by: fooddoof on Mon, 17 February 2020, 23:31:18
This. Is. Fantastic. I can’t wait!
Post by: subluxe on Tue, 18 February 2020, 01:00:16
Post by: stoffelduss on Tue, 18 February 2020, 06:56:07
Post by: Umio1 on Tue, 18 February 2020, 08:50:17
Cooooooool! It's anodized aluminium, right? Is white just silver then?
I'm looking for some place to do powdercoat so colors should be accurate to what is chosen.
White, Black, and Green will be definite color options and I'm thinking 2 more color options would be available on top of having the option to be bare metal (unfinished).
Post by: Zeelobby on Tue, 18 February 2020, 10:18:33
My personal favorite is blue with yellow (to match GMK Nautilus). But understand too many options can be tough.
Post by: Abhorrent Cell on Tue, 18 February 2020, 10:28:19
Post by: lush_bunny on Tue, 18 February 2020, 10:40:46
Post by: Umio1 on Tue, 18 February 2020, 14:24:38
So based on the plate and PCB shots, there will be no option for split backspace and split + on the numpad?
Unfortunately no, there wouldn't be enough people interested to make this option available, at least for the first group buy.
Post by: Umio1 on Tue, 18 February 2020, 14:25:20
Will RAL 9010 go with WS2? I’m considering GMK Bleach for this board.
What is WS2?
Post by: Abhorrent Cell on Tue, 18 February 2020, 14:30:48
Unfortunately no, there wouldn't be enough people interested to make this option available, at least for the first group buy.
Thanks for the update!
Also WS2 is one of the default color options GMK provides for keycaps. It's a very bright white.
Post by: Abhorrent Cell on Tue, 18 February 2020, 14:31:37
Post by: stoffelduss on Tue, 18 February 2020, 16:27:37
Unfortunately no, there wouldn't be enough people interested to make this option available, at least for the first group buy.Oh I just noticed this... that's unfortunate, in that case I'm out I think :( I'll think about it but I really like split backspace and split plus on something like this
Post by: SekaiJutsu on Tue, 18 February 2020, 16:55:54
Post by: lush_bunny on Tue, 18 February 2020, 18:31:59
Unfortunately no, there wouldn't be enough people interested to make this option available, at least for the first group buy.
Thanks for the update!
Also WS2 is one of the default color options GMK provides for keycaps. It's a very bright white.
What this friendly poster said. Link to GMK Bleached IC:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104430.0
Post by: Umio1 on Wed, 19 February 2020, 08:58:12
Unfortunately no, there wouldn't be enough people interested to make this option available, at least for the first group buy.
Thanks for the update!
Also WS2 is one of the default color options GMK provides for keycaps. It's a very bright white.
What this friendly poster said. Link to GMK Bleached IC:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104430.0
I believe it should work with it, RAL 9010 is the whitest you can get as far as RAL colors go. not sure how close it would be to the WS2
Post by: Inner-Ear on Wed, 19 February 2020, 09:48:38
Post by: SekaiJutsu on Wed, 19 February 2020, 15:52:43
Post by: Abhorrent Cell on Wed, 19 February 2020, 16:06:52
Also the option for a split "enter and +" for the numpad?
OP states it won't be an option. At least not in this run.
Post by: jchw on Wed, 19 February 2020, 19:32:54
Post by: Zeelobby on Wed, 19 February 2020, 20:14:32
I'm pretty new to the keyboard world and so is still unfamiliar with lots of things. For keyboard GBs like this, does it come as a kit and we need to build it ourselves? I really like this but worried I'll destroy it if I have to build it myself
Usually these offer the ability to buy an extra PCB and/or plate, which I ALWAYS recommend.
On top of that, there are other kits you can get which will be much cheaper which allow you to practice soldering. I'd highly recommend a through-hole board to get the most experience.
https://keycapsss.com/diy-kits/104/plaid-pad-4x4-numpad?c=17
A numpad is always a good start.
Post by: Umio1 on Wed, 19 February 2020, 22:25:54
Will there be an option for a reversed layout numpad?
Also the option for a split "enter and +" for the numpad?
OP states it won't be an option. At least not in this run.
Also the option for a split "enter and +" for the numpad?
Also the option for a split "enter and +" for the numpad?
OP states it won't be an option. At least not in this run.
^^that is correct, this is my first time running a group buy and production so I don't want to over extend myself. If everything goes smooth I'd be happy to do another run!
Post by: Umio1 on Wed, 19 February 2020, 22:35:58
I'm pretty new to the keyboard world and so is still unfamiliar with lots of things. For keyboard GBs like this, does it come as a kit and we need to build it ourselves? I really like this but worried I'll destroy it if I have to build it myself
The only thing that needs assembly with this are the sockets on the PCB ; even though they're "surface mount" they're a relatively easy component to solder and comparable to through hole components. That being said you should definitely practice some soldering, watch some YouTube videos on how to solder, do some through hole soldering, and you should be good enough to build a keyboard.
Post by: jchw on Wed, 19 February 2020, 23:00:11
I'm pretty new to the keyboard world and so is still unfamiliar with lots of things. For keyboard GBs like this, does it come as a kit and we need to build it ourselves? I really like this but worried I'll destroy it if I have to build it myself
Usually these offer the ability to buy an extra PCB and/or plate, which I ALWAYS recommend.
On top of that, there are other kits you can get which will be much cheaper which allow you to practice soldering. I'd highly recommend a through-hole board to get the most experience.
https://keycapsss.com/diy-kits/104/plaid-pad-4x4-numpad?c=17
A numpad is always a good start.
I never thought of using numpad kit to practice. It's a great idea, I'll definitely look into getting some. Thanks for the suggestion!
Post by: Mtalbert on Wed, 19 February 2020, 23:45:41
Post by: Umio1 on Thu, 20 February 2020, 00:51:27
What does the Chinese on the back of those keyboards mean?
Center reads"International Thick Boi" with "Boi" being phonetic, bottom left is my name. It's just something extra I did for myself cause I have some access to a laser engraver.
Post by: Mtalbert on Thu, 20 February 2020, 01:01:33
What does the Chinese on the back of those keyboards mean?
Center reads"International Thick Boi" with "Boi" being phonetic, bottom left is my name. It's just something extra I did for myself cause I have some access to a laser engraver.
I see...TBH, im a Chinese, I was just confused what does that mean, because it looks weird in Chinese.
Post by: bananasplit_00 on Thu, 20 February 2020, 01:26:01
Post by: SekaiJutsu on Sat, 22 February 2020, 17:50:44
Post by: lakeboredom on Sat, 22 February 2020, 18:49:33
Post by: Umio1 on Sun, 23 February 2020, 01:46:09
Plate mounted stabs right? Or is there something supporting the pcb so we can use screw ins?
Will the pcb and plate support pcb-mounted/screw-in stabs?
The stableizers are plate mounted, they're not attached to the pcb/use screws.
Post by: zakatak on Mon, 24 February 2020, 10:11:46
Plate mounted stabs right? Or is there something supporting the pcb so we can use screw ins?Will the pcb and plate support pcb-mounted/screw-in stabs?
The stableizers are plate mounted, they're not attached to the pcb/use screws.
Oh, that's quite dissapointing. Do you think you could still make the change to pcb-mount stabs?
Post by: SekaiJutsu on Mon, 24 February 2020, 13:09:25
Post by: Zeelobby on Mon, 24 February 2020, 13:27:17
Post by: Umio1 on Tue, 25 February 2020, 09:16:39
seconded the idea! Is it still possible to integrate the stab holes on the pcb and make the plate slightly more open? C3 stabs look very promising!
I'm a big fan of PCB mount as well. Plate mount is just so stab limiting.
I'm trying to refrain from making any big changes to the design as moving to PCB mounted will change both the Plate and PCB designs.
Stabilizers will be plate mounted.
Post by: pegasus21 on Tue, 25 February 2020, 09:19:09
Personally, I would prefer PCB mount stabs
Post by: carbs on Tue, 25 February 2020, 17:37:38
Post by: Umio1 on Sun, 01 March 2020, 22:58:24
50 Hi-Pro for the first round and going to get quotes to see how many I will do for the Low-pro
Post by: SekaiJutsu on Sun, 01 March 2020, 23:16:23
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Post by: fooddoof on Mon, 02 March 2020, 08:44:41
(3/1/20) Going to start the group buy next weekend 3/7/20; all the final details will be on that post. I'll also try to have all the files put up on Github next weekend.
50 Hi-Pro for the first round and going to get quotes to see how many I will do for the Low-pro
Will you post the time for it in the days before? Really don’t wanna miss out on this because I wasn’t awake ;-;
Post by: Agpatel on Mon, 02 March 2020, 09:08:42
Post by: StanleyLelnats on Mon, 02 March 2020, 09:42:29
(3/1/20) Going to start the group buy next weekend 3/7/20; all the final details will be on that post. I'll also try to have all the files put up on Github next weekend.
50 Hi-Pro for the first round and going to get quotes to see how many I will do for the Low-pro
Will you post the time for it in the days before? Really don’t wanna miss out on this because I wasn’t awake ;-;
Also, will this be a google form or will it run through some storefront?
Post by: Umio1 on Mon, 02 March 2020, 10:42:52
(3/1/20) Going to start the group buy next weekend 3/7/20; all the final details will be on that post. I'll also try to have all the files put up on Github next weekend.
50 Hi-Pro for the first round and going to get quotes to see how many I will do for the Low-pro
Will you post the time for it in the days before? Really don’t wanna miss out on this because I wasn’t awake ;-;
Yes, ill make sure to do that.
Post by: Umio1 on Mon, 02 March 2020, 10:43:43
(3/1/20) Going to start the group buy next weekend 3/7/20; all the final details will be on that post. I'll also try to have all the files put up on Github next weekend.
50 Hi-Pro for the first round and going to get quotes to see how many I will do for the Low-pro
Will you post the time for it in the days before? Really don’t wanna miss out on this because I wasn’t awake ;-;
Also, will this be a google form or will it run through some storefront?
Will be done using a google form.
Post by: Danimals97 on Mon, 02 March 2020, 11:47:54
Post by: AznCuber5 on Mon, 02 March 2020, 18:02:17
Post by: Umio1 on Mon, 02 March 2020, 19:02:01
For the High Profile keyboard, is there only one color option?
(https://i.imgur.com/R2IOqIs.png)
Post by: kioskhill45 on Mon, 02 March 2020, 19:05:15
Post by: Umio1 on Tue, 03 March 2020, 00:09:51
No grey for Hipro?
I will be keeping it to 5 standard color options to keep price down. Leaving the case uncolored is an option (just have it smoothed/bead blasted [or apply your own finish afterwards]).
If you are really set on a specific color I can see if they will quote it; there would be a price increase due to them having to mix a new color for 1 part.
Post by: Umio1 on Tue, 03 March 2020, 00:10:27
Post by: kioskhill45 on Tue, 03 March 2020, 00:18:49
Post by: fooddoof on Tue, 03 March 2020, 07:25:46
Post by: Umio1 on Tue, 03 March 2020, 08:52:04
Are the 5 colors glossy or matte? Also, can I get a different top and bottom color, like in the renders? Thanks
I was thinking a satin/semi-gloss for the powder coats, and yes both top and bottom can be different colors.
Post by: Umio1 on Tue, 03 March 2020, 09:04:20
BTW, what’s the prod time look like? Standard 2-3 months minimum?
Here are the estimates I was given from the quotes for the parts shipped to me:
PCB: 80-96 days
Case: 35 days
I wish these were a lot less but the Corona Virus ramping up right after the Chinese new year break really slowed a lot of manufacturing down.
Post by: StanleyLelnats on Tue, 03 March 2020, 09:28:51
Post by: fooddoof on Tue, 03 March 2020, 10:42:40
BTW, what’s the prod time look like? Standard 2-3 months minimum?
Here are the estimates I was given from the quotes for the parts shipped to me:
PCB: 80-96 days
Case: 35 days
I wish these were a lot less but the Corona Virus ramping up right after the Chinese new year break really slowed a lot of manufacturing down.
Thanks for the info! I have no problem with these timelines at all. People gotta make sure they’re healthy, that’s the important part. Thanks and looking forward to the GB!
Post by: Umio1 on Tue, 03 March 2020, 17:46:12
So is the only option for the PCB to solder the hotswap sockets on or will you be able to use it as a regular solderable pcb?
yes, hotswap only unless you wanted to solder the switches into the hotswap sockets.
Post by: kioskhill45 on Tue, 03 March 2020, 18:30:35
Post by: Umio1 on Wed, 04 March 2020, 00:38:18
One more thing, can we get multiple tops or bottoms for the case? I was thinking of getting one black bottom and then one black and one white top. Thanks again
Yes, I will put in an option to order more than 1 of each part.
Post by: kioskhill45 on Wed, 04 March 2020, 00:45:08
One more thing, can we get multiple tops or bottoms for the case? I was thinking of getting one black bottom and then one black and one white top. Thanks again
Yes, I will put in an option to order more than 1 of each part.
Great, thanks!
Post by: Navalyn on Thu, 05 March 2020, 16:03:57
Post by: Snakeboat on Fri, 06 March 2020, 03:55:54
What would be the est. time until the second GB for the low profile case? Looking at your pics, that seems like the way to go for me
Are there any recent images of the low profile?
Post by: Umio1 on Fri, 06 March 2020, 08:40:09
What would be the est. time until the second GB for the low profile case? Looking at your pics, that seems like the way to go for me
Are there any recent images of the low profile?
Second group buy all depends on how well this one works out, but a good estimate might be around August.
All the pictures for the low-profile are on the initial post.
Post by: StanleyLelnats on Fri, 06 March 2020, 09:34:46
Post by: productkun on Fri, 06 March 2020, 10:00:13
Post by: fooddoof on Fri, 06 March 2020, 16:25:57
Post by: Umio1 on Fri, 06 March 2020, 20:30:29
Any info for launch time tomorrow?
I'll put the group buy up tomorrow but won't put the google form up till Sunday just to give people a day's notice; more info on exact time when i post.
Post by: Umio1 on Fri, 06 March 2020, 20:32:01
Will future rounds potentially include a solderable pcb?
I'll do a second poll after the first buy to see if it's a popular choice.
Post by: fooddoof on Fri, 06 March 2020, 20:45:35
Any info for launch time tomorrow?
I'll put the group buy up tomorrow but won't put the google form up till Sunday just to give people a day's notice; more info on exact time when i post.
Nice, thanks! Really hoping it won’t be Sunday morning now tho :-[
Post by: Umio1 on Sat, 07 March 2020, 21:49:22
Any info for launch time tomorrow?
I'll put the group buy up tomorrow but won't put the google form up till Sunday just to give people a day's notice; more info on exact time when i post.
Nice, thanks! Really hoping it won’t be Sunday morning now tho :-[
looks like im going to release the order forms Monday evening; I submitted the Group Buy page for approval so that should be up Sunday hopefully.
Post by: fooddoof on Sat, 07 March 2020, 22:02:53
looks like im going to release the order forms Monday evening; I submitted the Group Buy page for approval so that should be up Sunday hopefully.
Thanks for the update! Lookin forward to it :D
Post by: SekaiJutsu on Sat, 07 March 2020, 22:15:19
Did you get a quote for the boards? There are a few artisans doing buys rn, would be dope to get an estimate!
Post by: Umio1 on Sun, 08 March 2020, 21:05:46
Can't wait!!!
Did you get a quote for the boards? There are a few artisans doing buys rn, would be dope to get an estimate!
Yeah, it'll all be posted soon, the approval process is taking longer than I expected.
I'll wait a day after the post is up to put the order forms up just so people can find it before they put their requests in.
Post by: Umio1 on Mon, 09 March 2020, 10:15:12
Order forms will be release MARCH 10th at 6:00 PM Phoenix Time.
Post by: Umio1 on Wed, 11 March 2020, 09:50:15