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Title: Rhino Robotics - Keyboard Emulator (non-MX)
Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 26 September 2013, 08:06:51
Posting this write-up here in case anyone else runs across these kits.  As noted in the title, despite the look of the key switches and keycaps, these are not MX-compatible.   :(

Looking good so far, nice mix of custom cap legends and colors...  Keyboard emulator?  Looks like most of a full keyboard to me.
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Pretty simple PCB, I think these units were used in a college classroom
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Cham-Bana!  When these were copyrighted/made, I was going to college a few miles away, and even dated a sorority girl from there.  (Delta Delta Delta. Huh, the things that linger in one's memory...)
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Medium thick caps, all one profile - almost flat.  Switches are flat with a cross-shaped stem...
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But NOT MX-compatible.  Stems are thicker than Cherry MX, the caps won't fit Cherry switches, nor will Cherry keycaps fit these switches. 
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Pretty simple switch mechanism (more pics later once I desolder one...), uses a flat spring to hold the stem up.
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Old Intel chip
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And there you have it.  A board full of incompatible switches, not useful for very much except soldering practice.  Kind of nice aluminum cases, could be used for a project box (on the large side...).  I may try to dremel out the stems on a few of these, do Ripster's keycap mod, if I run out of other projects.   :rolleyes:
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Title: Re: Rhino Robotics - Keyboard Emulator (non-MX)
Post by: SpAmRaY on Thu, 26 September 2013, 08:11:48
Too bad those key caps are not compatible they look pretty cool!
Title: Re: Rhino Robotics - Keyboard Emulator (non-MX)
Post by: terran5992 on Thu, 26 September 2013, 08:18:20
Cool ****
Title: Re: Rhino Robotics - Keyboard Emulator (non-MX)
Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 26 September 2013, 08:23:09
Those keycaps were what motivated me to buy them, I may try modding the red/green ones, they have interesting legends.  Just pad-printed (I think), not double-shot or anything.

Very industrial, in keeping with their intended use. 

http://web.vtc.edu/elm/projects/2003-2004/Rhino/Important%20Documents/Manual/Manual.html

Too bad those key caps are not compatible they look pretty cool!
Title: Re: Rhino Robotics - Keyboard Emulator (non-MX)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 26 September 2013, 08:31:30
Whoa. That's sweet. What do you think it was used to control or was hooked up to Greystroke?
Title: Re: Rhino Robotics - Keyboard Emulator (non-MX)
Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 26 September 2013, 08:48:35
Looks like a line of bench-top robotic assembly/manufacturing systems.

Company seems to be focused on the educational market, teaching students how to program and use robotics systems.

http://rhinorobotics.com/ (http://rhinorobotics.com/)

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Huge-Lot-of-Rhino-Robotic-Arms-Conveyors-XR-Series-Experimental-Robot-/141059112536 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Huge-Lot-of-Rhino-Robotic-Arms-Conveyors-XR-Series-Experimental-Robot-/141059112536)

Whoa. That's sweet. What do you think it was used to control or was hooked up to Greystroke?
Title: Re: Rhino Robotics - Keyboard Emulator (non-MX)
Post by: CPTBadAss on Thu, 26 September 2013, 08:55:28
Um, let's get a groupbuy on THOSE. Those look like a ton of fun!
Title: Re: Rhino Robotics - Keyboard Emulator (non-MX)
Post by: xiaodian317 on Thu, 26 September 2013, 08:58:30
Just like the CHERRY M8 Switch
Title: Re: Rhino Robotics - Keyboard Emulator (non-MX)
Post by: Tarzan on Thu, 26 September 2013, 08:59:21
Um, let's get a groupbuy on THOSE. Those look like a ton of fun!

Any of the guys with MakerBots should be looking at these, sounds like the next logical step.   ;D
Title: Re: Rhino Robotics - Keyboard Emulator (non-MX)
Post by: jbondeson on Thu, 26 September 2013, 09:12:06
Depending upon the difference in size between the two modding them to fit on MX could be very ... interesting.

I'd be interested to see a side-by-side with an MX and one of these stems.
Title: Re: Rhino Robotics - Keyboard Emulator (non-MX)
Post by: dorkvader on Thu, 26 September 2013, 12:37:54
I was monitoring those! good to see you got one. I actually emailed rhino robotics about them, but they didn't have much to say. I can post the details later if anyone is interested.

Thanks for the excellent pictures and post.
Title: Re: Rhino Robotics - Keyboard Emulator (non-MX)
Post by: Daniel Beardsmore on Wed, 05 February 2014, 18:17:08
Just like the CHERRY M8 Switch

It's not, but your having written that was useful, as I just found this page while looking for good M8 photos.

Those switches ..... how truly odd. Those are Apple hairpin spring (http://deskthority.net/wiki/Apple_hairpin_spring) switches, but they're not Apple branded!

Apple apparently used those in the Apple IIc from April 1984 to August 1986:

http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/convert-apple-iic-to-usb-t7256.html#p144313

Someone appears to have removed the Apple logo from the mould and produced another run of switches with another logo. Notice how the "G" logos are all hand-carved into the mould?

This is an Apple-patented switch, filed in 1984, granted in 1985, and lapsed in 1997, making this switch seem a bit suspect, if the OEM was selling these without Apple's knowledge. I can't see Apple permitting their logo to be badly removed from a patented product! They could be clones, but who would want to clone such a terrible switch?