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Offline hasu

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[GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« on: Tue, 13 June 2017, 20:20:55 »
What is this?

This controller replaces original controller of Leopold FC980C and make it programmable with my TMK firmware. Keymap Editor is also offered for ease of use.


MOQ(Minimum Order Quantity) is 15 and closing date is 15 July. (Some extras will come you can still order.)
(We hit the MOQ!!!! 07/03)

Once orders reach the mark I will buy the keyboard and start development immediately, it will take one or two month. This GB won't happen and your money is fully refunded unless the MOQ is met til the closing date. I'm almost confident that I'm able to do this job but you are also fully refunded if I fail to deliver controller for whatever reason. I think there is virtually no risk for you to join this.




Original controller of FC980C looks like this, for reference.





I'll share technical infos and findings I get in this project with community, also firmware source codes also will be published as opensource/freesoftware under GPL, immedately as possible. I don't decide it yet but controller PCB design files will be shared under license like CC-BY-NC-SA after certain term. I believe this GB can contribute to keyboard community to some extent in terms of these points.

You can discuss technical topics here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90681.0


This is going to be very similar to FC660C project from both electronic and firmware perspectives. For reference, these are threads about FC660C Alt Controller.
- FC660C Alt Controller(Technical infos): https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88439.0
- [GB] TMK FC660C Alt Controller: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88720.0


Post your question or suggestion here instead. You can email me if really needed.

Thanks



Order
Email me at hasu@tmk-kbd.com with subject "FC980C GB" to place an order. Let me know how many if you need more than one.  I'll send PayPal invoice to your email address. Do not PM(Private Message) me.


Price: 39USD + 6USD(Shipping)

Payment: PayPal invoice will be sent. You can use credit card or PayPal account for payment. Please make sure you supply correct shipping address on Paypal when making payment.

Shipping: Registered mail. Trackable in most of countries except for Canada and China. Shipping cost is same rate for all countries as far as Japan Post can cover.


Shipping to CANADA: Sorry to say this but we had very long delay on delivery in Canada these days and it takes even two months occasionally when you suffer from bad luck. In the case of trouble you have to wait two months(plus a few weeks) before having me issue fully refund. If you are in Canada consider using EMS for shipping method, which is traceable and very fast(3 days or so) but it costs 20USD instead of 6 :( Let me know if you want to use EMS.



Note
- This is NOT compatible to FC980M https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90104.msg2448274#msg2448274
- This doesn't replace USB connector. In FC980C USB connector is located in diffrent small pcb. http://i.imgur.com/m41F7vL.jpg






Following sections are going to be updated after development begins.

How to install
Open case
Mate/unmate connector
Install controller board

How to remap

How to flash

Build from source codes

Troubleshoot
« Last Edit: Thu, 20 July 2017, 20:39:22 by hasu »
⚠ My Engrish is broken.  !!!FC980C Alt GB!!! HHKB Alt  ⌨ConvertersAlps64FC660C Alt

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 15 June 2017, 12:13:50 »
Thank you hasu for doing this, order just sent.

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 21:47:12 »
bump.
This GB is not going very well so far :-X
anyone can help?

I'll share technical infos and findings I get in this project with community, also firmware source codes also will be published as opensource/freesoftware under GPL, immedately as possible. I don't decide it yet but controller PCB design files will be shared under license like CC-BY-NC-SA after certain term. I believe this GB can contribute to keyboard community to some extent in terms of these points.

EDIT:
I mean we need more participants to meet MOQ.
« Last Edit: Wed, 28 June 2017, 21:50:09 by hasu »
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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 21:53:54 »
Personally don't need one, but I've shared this around to try and garner some orders.
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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 22:20:18 »
Is this compatible with the FC980M? If so, I'm in. :)

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 22:21:16 »
Is this compatible with the FC980M? If so, I'm in. :)

No the FC980C is topre, completely different electronics.

EDIT: Linked the thread in my sig maybe it'll bring in a few more people. I don't personally need the extra customization but I am typing this on a FC980C :D
« Last Edit: Wed, 28 June 2017, 22:26:42 by SpAmRaY »

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 22:33:52 »
Thanks guys for your bumping :D

FC980M has its controller on keyboard PCB, you cannot replace controller in fact unfortunately.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87699.msg2364578#msg2364578
⚠ My Engrish is broken.  !!!FC980C Alt GB!!! HHKB Alt  ⌨ConvertersAlps64FC660C Alt

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 28 June 2017, 23:02:17 »
Thanks guys for your bumping :D

FC980M has its controller on keyboard PCB, you cannot replace controller in fact unfortunately.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87699.msg2364578#msg2364578

Bummer, but kind of what I was anticipating. Thanks anyways!

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 03:14:38 »
I'm in! Just sent you an email.

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 03:26:24 »
I'm in! Just sent you an email.

Thank you, sent invoice.


SpAmRaY, good idea. I setup my sig too!
⚠ My Engrish is broken.  !!!FC980C Alt GB!!! HHKB Alt  ⌨ConvertersAlps64FC660C Alt

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 03:28:05 »
Didn't even see this yet. Looks very interesting.

Just to be sure, this is compatible with both the 660c and 980c ? If yes I will probably pick one up

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 03:33:24 »
Didn't even see this yet. Looks very interesting.

This is compatible with both the 660c and 980c ? If yes I will probably pick one up

This works only with FC980C.
Contoller of the two keyboards are not identical physically at least.
⚠ My Engrish is broken.  !!!FC980C Alt GB!!! HHKB Alt  ⌨ConvertersAlps64FC660C Alt

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 09:30:18 »
Only just seen this in the other thread. You have my support Hasu! Now you are making me buy another keyboard :)

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 09:33:35 »
Omg! I thought hasu said this wasent going to happen

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 12:26:56 »
Hasu always delivers what the people want.

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 15:28:54 »
So glad to see this moving forward!  In for one, emailed

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 16:54:30 »
Wew!

I'm in for one!
                   
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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 17:26:25 »
In for two. Thanks!

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 29 June 2017, 20:20:25 »
How are the keycaps on the two colours of the keyboard different? Are they the same material?

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 30 June 2017, 10:50:25 »
Love my 660C controller immensely. GL!

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 30 June 2017, 14:00:57 »
How close is this? Tempted since there is like no way to use print screen effectively
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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 30 June 2017, 14:50:32 »
How are the keycaps on the two colours of the keyboard different? Are they the same material?

Nearly the same. The colours are the only difference between the two models.
« Last Edit: Fri, 30 June 2017, 14:57:52 by moh18one »

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 02 July 2017, 14:58:01 »
In for one! Thanks Hasu!

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 02 July 2017, 16:50:18 »
Hit 15 of the MOQ now!! Thank you for your support.
I ordered and have FC980C in the mail :D I'll start design controller immediately and keep you updated here.
⚠ My Engrish is broken.  !!!FC980C Alt GB!!! HHKB Alt  ⌨ConvertersAlps64FC660C Alt

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 03 July 2017, 00:55:02 »
Good luck! Did you find anywhere that had one for less than 29,000?

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 03 July 2017, 01:50:52 »
no, it keeps still high price level :(

I got a second hand at a bit lower rate.
⚠ My Engrish is broken.  !!!FC980C Alt GB!!! HHKB Alt  ⌨ConvertersAlps64FC660C Alt

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 18 July 2017, 20:40:42 »
GB Update:
Hi folks,
Thanks for your help.

I examined FC980C and found it is almost equivalent electrically, next wrote initial firmware and verified it with FC660C Alt controller.




I designed pcb for the controller these days and am about to order pcbs now.



Everythig goes well so far.
⚠ My Engrish is broken.  !!!FC980C Alt GB!!! HHKB Alt  ⌨ConvertersAlps64FC660C Alt

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #27 on: Thu, 20 July 2017, 20:43:09 »
GB Update:

Setup a thread in "Making Stuff Together!" subforum for technical discussion.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90681.0
⚠ My Engrish is broken.  !!!FC980C Alt GB!!! HHKB Alt  ⌨ConvertersAlps64FC660C Alt

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 26 July 2017, 15:25:58 »
Just got my hands on a 980C, are there extras coming that can be ordered?

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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 26 July 2017, 17:12:51 »
Just got my hands on a 980C, are there extras coming that can be ordered?

Did you try emailing?
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Re: [GB] TMK FC980C Alt Controller
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 26 July 2017, 17:13:43 »
Just got my hands on a 980C, are there extras coming that can be ordered?
yes. you can still email me to place order.
check first post.
⚠ My Engrish is broken.  !!!FC980C Alt GB!!! HHKB Alt  ⌨ConvertersAlps64FC660C Alt