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Don't forget to add (as optional items) the numpad comma in BR and R3. Note as well that the numpad comma in BR is required in several non-English layouts.Which locales require this? Would it be the sort of key that should be included in a NorDe kit, for instance?
Also, note that 1U numpad+ and numpad-, as used on 1800 and 1800-like keyboards, place 'em in R3 and R2 respectively (as much as I personally hate that, but that's a different matteR).Ugh, I thought I had gotten the order of those two correct, but it seems like some keyboards put plus on top while others put the plus on the bottom. Very frustrating. I'll update the image and the KLE.
Don't forget to add (as optional items) the numpad comma in BR and R3. Note as well that the numpad comma in BR is required in several non-English layouts.Which locales require this? Would it be the sort of key that should be included in a NorDe kit, for instance?
Also, note that 1U numpad+ and numpad-, as used on 1800 and 1800-like keyboards, place 'em in R3 and R2 respectively (as much as I personally hate that, but that's a different matteR).Ugh, I thought I had gotten the order of those two correct, but it seems like some keyboards put plus on top while others put the plus on the bottom. Very frustrating. I'll update the image and the KLE.
At least: German, Danish, Norwegian, Swedish/Finnish, Icelandic, Estonian, Italian, Portuguese (Portugal) and French (Belgium). There are some more that SHOULD require it but don't (Spanish (both), Portuguese (Brazil), French (France)) and surely the numpad comma is required by several other national languages I haven't documented yet. See http://www.farah.cl/Keyboardery/Possible-International-Kits-for-Custom-Sets/ (http://www.farah.cl/Keyboardery/Possible-International-Kits-for-Custom-Sets/) for more information.
Am I the only person that questions why = is in the - position when there's an extra key on a numberpad? I always put - in it's standard place and use the extra - or a 'geek hack' key (two lines) as = below it, even if there's an = in the set, it just makes more sense that way. No good if your pad isn't programmable though.
Am I the only person that questions why = is in the - position when there's an extra key on a numberpad? I always put - in it's standard place and use the extra - or a 'geek hack' key (two lines) as = below it, even if there's an = in the set, it just makes more sense that way. No good if your pad isn't programmable though.
What keyboard layouts use an equals key in the numeric keyboard besides Macs? I agree that it's great to have when doing work in Excel, and I wish my Windows keyboards at work had one.
Am I the only person that questions why = is in the - position when there's an extra key on a numberpad? I always put - in it's standard place and use the extra - or a 'geek hack' key (two lines) as = below it, even if there's an = in the set, it just makes more sense that way. No good if your pad isn't programmable though.
I personally find the numpad equals sign very useful in the context of doing work in Excel, especially when the numpad also includes parentheses (though that's admittedly nonstandard).
I've said for a long, long, long time that the top left corner key should be numpad equals, and Num Lock should NOT be in the base layer at all (heck, the IBM Model M SSK, released in 1986, moved it to Shift-Scroll Lock).
I understand (even though I don't agree with) the idea of making numpad zero and numpad plus 2U in size, but Num Lock in the base layer? NOPE.