Post by: ai03 on Tue, 06 August 2019, 11:26:52
by ai03 and Kevinplus
Gaskets. Seamless. 60%. $265 shipped, starting at $250.
Current status: GB complete. Thread being locked; please use Discord instead for extended support and discussion.
Discord for push notifications (https://kb.ai03.me/discord)
(https://i.imgur.com/S2gslFr.jpg)
Offering a quality typing experience without the high price tag, Polaris redefines the expectations from custom keyboards.
With proper gasket plate mounting, flex-slotted 1.2mm thin PCB, sleek seamless aesthetic, and accessible pricing, experience a top-tier 60% keyboard for a mid-range price.
(https://i.imgur.com/8s37kko.jpg)
Features
- Refined seamless aesthetic that borrows from KBD8X MKII, with a rear-extended weight for a premium look
- Plate held in place by a total of 18 gaskets. No metal-to-metal contact between the plate and case
- 1.2mm thick, flex-slotted PCB that extends the gasket comfort further
- Two foam filler sheets that remove open space within the keyboard while suppressing vibrations
(https://i.imgur.com/SFDk3OX.jpg)
Options
Tops:
- Regular/Full
- HHKB
- WKL
Case colors:
- Black
- Space gray
- Blue grey
- Burgundy red
- Forest green
- Rose gold
- Purple
- E-White (Extra cost)
- E-Yellow (Extra cost)
- Polycarbonate (Extra cost)
Plate options:
- Material: Brass, Polycarbonate, FR4
- Layout: WKL or Universal
- Style: Half or Full
Brass finish options:
- Simple clear matte PVD
- Matte black PVD
Timeline
This turned out very, very off from reality. GB completed August 26, nearly 9 months behind original ETA.
If you would like push notifications when there is progress, please join my Discord server and run the command ".iam Polaris" in the channel #bot-spam to receive direct updates whenever they happen.
Discord invite (https://kb.ai03.me/discord)
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 06 August 2019, 11:35:08
Post by: KingOfMemes on Tue, 06 August 2019, 11:59:24
Post by: valkyr1e on Tue, 06 August 2019, 12:17:06
Is this the space gray? (Definitely not black, but looks darker than space gray on other KBDFans space gray)
(https://i.imgur.com/KiPCaPv.jpg)
Post by: 1Weeb on Tue, 06 August 2019, 12:35:56
Post by: nasp on Tue, 06 August 2019, 12:38:48
Could I get a clarification on the colour:
Is this the space gray? (Definitely not black, but looks darker than space gray on other KBDFans space gray)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KiPCaPv.jpg)
At the time of the render the colors were not listed so it's neither
Post by: Mekuno on Tue, 06 August 2019, 12:45:19
Post by: nasp on Tue, 06 August 2019, 12:54:34
I am assuming the color samples that are shown on the buy page are what they are aiming for.
Yes. There are only a few physical color samples available. It would have been very expensive to make samples of all the colors.
Post by: Southern Discomfort on Tue, 06 August 2019, 12:58:26
Post by: jonowarren94 on Tue, 06 August 2019, 13:10:17
I know this might sound dumb but I would be correct in saying the base kit comes with a pcb and foam but not a plate right?
Thanks!
Post by: Popopro on Tue, 06 August 2019, 13:47:22
Could I get a clarification on the colour:
Is this the space gray? (Definitely not black, but looks darker than space gray on other KBDFans space gray)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KiPCaPv.jpg)
I believe that is the space grey as Ai03 said blue grey will be more blue than that.
Post by: donkey on Tue, 06 August 2019, 13:52:10
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 06 August 2019, 14:01:42
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 06 August 2019, 14:33:12
In for e yellow hhkb
Same but WKL.
Post by: hamilton on Tue, 06 August 2019, 15:09:01
Post by: Emir on Tue, 06 August 2019, 15:11:33
Post by: Tekniqs on Tue, 06 August 2019, 15:31:15
Post by: valkyr1e on Tue, 06 August 2019, 15:54:46
Post by: jooobe on Tue, 06 August 2019, 16:00:32
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Post by: mongoose27 on Tue, 06 August 2019, 16:07:48
Can't wait to get it.
Post by: 112227 on Tue, 06 August 2019, 16:20:49
Post by: kekstee on Tue, 06 August 2019, 16:33:01
Post by: mongoose27 on Tue, 06 August 2019, 16:46:10
Any details on what exactly is the FR4 material option and what to expect from it?
From the KBD site:
Materials:
- Brass: A stiff metal with a deep sound. Firm bottom-out that pairs well with tactiles and some linears.
- FR4: A durable yet flexible fiberglass that is often used for PCBs. Medium firmness, slightly bouncy bottom-out that works for most switches.
- Poly: A flexible plastic that is more resistant to cracking than acrylic. Very soft bottom-out that works with linears.
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 06 August 2019, 18:04:42
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 06 August 2019, 18:33:38
Post by: AcidBrain on Tue, 06 August 2019, 19:08:30
Same, i was def in for PC also! I want to know if any other users that have had a PC board had an issue or have heard of this warning before....Could I get a clarification on the colour:
Is this the space gray? (Definitely not black, but looks darker than space gray on other KBDFans space gray)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KiPCaPv.jpg)
At the time of the render the colors were not listed so it's neither
Post by: iammbox on Tue, 06 August 2019, 20:03:41
Post by: konradb on Tue, 06 August 2019, 20:10:39
This is a big difference for me and I don’t know if I should go safe with black, or trust that it will be dark burgundy.
Post by: toanta on Tue, 06 August 2019, 20:26:43
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Tue, 06 August 2019, 20:38:23
Will the burgundy be like KBDfans switch opener? Or will it be more bright red like on interest check photo?The one on the IC was stated as being the incorrect color.
This is a big difference for me and I don’t know if I should go safe with black, or trust that it will be dark burgundy.
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Tue, 06 August 2019, 20:43:42
It's a warning that really should be put up for all boards available in polycarbonate. I purchased a Poly Singa75 used and was very surprised by the top/bottom alignment issues. visually you probably won't notice it, but it can be felt quite a lot. the main issue is that the Polaris, much like the Singa75, has fairly thin walls on the top half, and this can lead to a lot of side flex. It shouldn't be as bad once you've put it together though.Same, i was def in for PC also! I want to know if any other users that have had a PC board had an issue or have heard of this warning before....Could I get a clarification on the colour:
Is this the space gray? (Definitely not black, but looks darker than space gray on other KBDFans space gray)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KiPCaPv.jpg)
At the time of the render the colors were not listed so it's neither
Oh, and I don't believe Ai03 has confirmed otherwise, so it's most likely the screws are threading directly into the polycarbonate, which means you need to be careful about over-tightening.
Post by: f0leyme1ster on Tue, 06 August 2019, 22:43:13
Post by: nguyenhimself on Tue, 06 August 2019, 22:43:39
Again, probably not for everyone. But for those who wish for HHKB-with-arrow-keys, this is awesome.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Tue, 06 August 2019, 22:45:32
Will this keyboard have a second round of groupbuys in the future? Or can that not be confirmed? I'm new to groupbuysUsually no guarantee. There's a chance that KBDfans would stock up a number of units for post-GB purchase, but again, no idea.
Post by: Solotov on Tue, 06 August 2019, 22:58:18
Post by: KingOfMemes on Tue, 06 August 2019, 23:18:35
E-Yellow for Serika :thumb:This the move 100%
Post by: sevenseacat on Wed, 07 August 2019, 00:26:06
Post by: Ivanddt on Wed, 07 August 2019, 01:34:19
Post by: raphaelf on Wed, 07 August 2019, 01:42:04
Will the burgundy be like KBDfans switch opener? Or will it be more bright red like on interest check photo?
This is a big difference for me and I don’t know if I should go safe with black, or trust that it will be dark burgundy.
I'm really interested to know that also. I love the red on the opener but the one in the proto didn't do much for me.
Post by: jrs on Wed, 07 August 2019, 03:25:48
Post by: jooobe on Wed, 07 August 2019, 05:31:55
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Post by: MK47 on Wed, 07 August 2019, 06:01:54
Post by: kitty on Wed, 07 August 2019, 06:16:51
Has KBDfans done Rose Gold before? Can't seem to find anything on their site.
would like to see a rose gold colour sample too :>
Post by: ddnomad on Wed, 07 August 2019, 07:15:27
In for e yellow hhkb
Let me guess: with MT3 Serika, right?
Post by: Bubblegum on Wed, 07 August 2019, 07:23:03
Post by: mr.squishy on Wed, 07 August 2019, 07:28:16
Is Forest Green ano the same as KBDfans 5°/Tofu Dark Green?That's what I wanna know
Post by: SpeakingSilence on Wed, 07 August 2019, 07:37:02
E White for Milkshake.
Post by: LubedNReady on Wed, 07 August 2019, 07:39:53
My body is ready. Buy now, think later!
I feel this on so many levels.
All of you who have expressed interest in the polycarb plates - are you planning on buying an extra plate (either same or different material)?
Post by: Jonny_Lopez on Wed, 07 August 2019, 07:55:10
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 07 August 2019, 08:31:05
Same, i was def in for PC also! I want to know if any other users that have had a PC board had an issue or have heard of this warning before....Could I get a clarification on the colour:
Is this the space gray? (Definitely not black, but looks darker than space gray on other KBDFans space gray)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KiPCaPv.jpg)
At the time of the render the colors were not listed so it's neither
https://brianlee.blog/2018/12/14/review-yuktsis-tgr-910re-polycarbonate/ sums it up nicely
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 07 August 2019, 08:33:06
Has KBDfans done Rose Gold before? Can't seem to find anything on their site.
Yes, I've posted a recent one (Fusion60): https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101726.msg2790447#msg2790447
Post by: jooobe on Wed, 07 August 2019, 08:50:33
Yee I ll buy 2 different plate and pcbWill have to desolder to switch plate?
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Post by: nguyenhimself on Wed, 07 August 2019, 09:11:30
What's the best feeling plate for linear switches?It's subjective, but i'd say full brass. The new half-plate and/or PC plate hotness is usually for those who want to get more from their tactile switches.
Post by: xantiema on Wed, 07 August 2019, 09:30:25
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 07 August 2019, 09:44:50
Post by: KingOfMemes on Wed, 07 August 2019, 09:45:49
Has KBDfans done Rose Gold before? Can't seem to find anything on their site.
Yes, I've posted a recent one (Fusion60): https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101726.msg2790447#msg2790447
That looks more Champagne :|
Post by: rockydbull on Wed, 07 August 2019, 09:53:53
What's the best feeling plate for linear switches?It's subjective, but i'd say full brass. The new half-plate and/or PC plate hotness is usually for those who want to get more from their tactile switches.
Interesting, the product page suggests the opposite.
Post by: KingOfMemes on Wed, 07 August 2019, 10:05:54
Again... very subjective LOLOLWhat's the best feeling plate for linear switches?It's subjective, but i'd say full brass. The new half-plate and/or PC plate hotness is usually for those who want to get more from their tactile switches.
Interesting, the product page suggests the opposite.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Wed, 07 August 2019, 10:34:51
Yeah. It also has to do with the sound profile you prefer (high-pitched or deep) and, well, just general feeling.Poly & FR4 will be much softer & bouncier than brass. Probably not a good idea if you like hammering on heavy switches.Again... very subjective LOLOLWhat's the best feeling plate for linear switches?It's subjective, but i'd say full brass. The new half-plate and/or PC plate hotness is usually for those who want to get more from their tactile switches.
Interesting, the product page suggests the opposite.
In other words, go to a meetup and try all the things :)
Post by: ilezia on Wed, 07 August 2019, 10:49:12
(https://i.imgur.com/IlsZ9bH.png)
The colour on the rendering is quite a bit darker and greyer than the colour on the swatch (which is what I'd prefer).
Right now can't decide between the blue and space grey.
Post by: nguyenhimself on Wed, 07 August 2019, 10:54:03
Are the renderings for the "blue grey" fairly accurate?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/IlsZ9bH.png)
The colour on the rendering is quite a bit darker and greyer than the colour on the swatch (which is what I'd prefer).
Right now can't decide between the blue and space grey.
Most likely the same blue as this one (https://drop.com/buy/kbdfans-x-ai03-2-in-1-aluminum-switch-opener). It matches the color swatch and is also a product from KBDfans & ai03:
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/kbdfans-x-ai03-2-in-1-aluminum-switch-opener/FP/1dJO8XFqRxCY0UL1EKB7_0899-copy-pc.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1080&bg=f0f0f0&dpr=1&q=70)
Post by: ilezia on Wed, 07 August 2019, 10:59:50
Are the renderings for the "blue grey" fairly accurate?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/IlsZ9bH.png)
The colour on the rendering is quite a bit darker and greyer than the colour on the swatch (which is what I'd prefer).
Right now can't decide between the blue and space grey.
Most likely the same blue as this one (https://drop.com/buy/kbdfans-x-ai03-2-in-1-aluminum-switch-opener). It matches the color swatch and is also a product from KBDfans & ai03:Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/kbdfans-x-ai03-2-in-1-aluminum-switch-opener/FP/1dJO8XFqRxCY0UL1EKB7_0899-copy-pc.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=1080&bg=f0f0f0&dpr=1&q=70)
Yeah I was thinking that might be the case. Space grey it is!
e. was inside quotes
Post by: spakecdk on Wed, 07 August 2019, 12:09:28
Post by: ninjacore on Wed, 07 August 2019, 12:19:28
Will the 65% version have a blocker between the arrow cluster and ctrl?
65% version?
Post by: jooobe on Wed, 07 August 2019, 12:22:35
Will the 65% version have a blocker between the arrow cluster and ctrl?This is 60%. wkl will have blockers. Refer to the provided image
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Post by: Mekberg on Wed, 07 August 2019, 12:55:26
Post by: Icte on Wed, 07 August 2019, 13:25:31
- I see that the colors e-white and e-yellow costs slightly more. Do they have some sort of coating, and if so, what kind of coating?
- Why is a WKL/Tsangan plate offered, when you can have this layout using the universal plate? Is there something about the WKL/Tsangan plate which makes it a better choice over the universal plate, if you're planning to use one of the layouts offered by the WKL/Tsangan plate?
- If you choose the black matte brass weight as well as a brass plate, will the plate also be black matte PVD?
- On the website, the following is stated:
"The 1.2mm thick, slot-cut super flexible PCB offers typing comfort that extends the gasket mount benefits."
What kind of benefits are there of the gasket mount in this context? More of a "spongy" feeling when typing on switches due to flex?
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 07 August 2019, 13:41:36
Quick questions before I jump on this incredible offer:
- I see that the colors e-white and e-yellow costs slightly more. Do they have some sort of coating, and if so, what kind of coating?
- Why is a WKL/Tsangan plate offered, when you can have this layout using the universal plate? Is there something about the WKL/Tsangan plate which makes it a better choice over the universal plate, if you're planning to use one of the layouts offered by the WKL/Tsangan plate?
- If you choose the black matte brass weight as well as a brass plate, will the plate also be black matte PVD?
- On the website, the following is stated:
"The 1.2mm thick, slot-cut super flexible PCB offers typing comfort that extends the gasket mount benefits."
What kind of benefits are there of the gasket mount in this context? More of a "spongy" feeling when typing on switches due to flex?
1. e-coating means coated by electrophoresis, you can google the process.
2. dedicated plates have less holes, people like that because usually it means a less painful time straightening switches and the likes.
3. probably.
4. I wouldn't describe it as spongy but you likely have the right idea yes.
Post by: Grandmasternoob on Wed, 07 August 2019, 14:19:44
https://imgur.com/a/DjS5ZTD
Post by: KingOfMemes on Wed, 07 August 2019, 14:26:40
maybe I'm stupid, but what is this secret date?Idk if you are asking about the delivery date or the GB timeframe, but in the great country of America, we use MM/DD/YYYY, so 08/06/2019 - 09/06/2019 is August 6th to September 6th.
https://imgur.com/a/DjS5ZTD
If you are asking about the variance in delivery date, thats just an expected timeframe of the time it takes from the GB end to be shipped to the buyer. Manufacturing and QA takes place between GB end and estimated ship date. The variance of December to January is just a cushion in the case that something comes up that slows down production. You should mark your calendar for February
Post by: spakecdk on Wed, 07 August 2019, 14:49:32
Post by: jooobe on Wed, 07 August 2019, 15:12:41
I was talking about the future version of polaris, which will be 65%. If that will have a blocker, i will wait for it instead.Ooof we are only day 2 of the GB brother, slow down
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Post by: Mekberg on Wed, 07 August 2019, 15:36:49
If you choose the black matte brass weight as well as a brass plate, will the plate also be black matte PVD?
probably.
This seems like a quite important distinction to make. I was figuring on a black weight but I still would like a brass plate. Would be good to know what you’re getting.
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 07 August 2019, 15:42:36
This seems like a quite important distinction to make. I was figuring on a black weight but I still would like a brass plate. Would be good to know what you’re getting.
I agree, as per the pictures it would look like you get both in black but it's best to get clarification of course. Hence me saying probably and not giving a definitive answer; hopefully ai03 will chime in when he can.
Post by: Vadurr on Wed, 07 August 2019, 16:12:06
This seems like a quite important distinction to make. I was figuring on a black weight but I still would like a brass plate. Would be good to know what you’re getting.
I agree, as per the pictures it would look like you get both in black but it's best to get clarification of course. Hence me saying probably and not giving a definitive answer; hopefully ai03 will chime in when he can.
I believe I saw aio3 say you can leave a request in the 'note' section in his discord.
Post by: jooobe on Wed, 07 August 2019, 19:14:47
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Post by: KingOfMemes on Wed, 07 August 2019, 19:21:23
Rose gold render added on kbdfans
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Looks godlike too
Post by: jooobe on Wed, 07 August 2019, 20:13:44
Perfect for SA blissRose gold render added on kbdfans
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Looks godlike too
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Post by: nguyenhimself on Wed, 07 August 2019, 20:47:50
I was talking about the future version of polaris, which will be 65%. If that will have a blocker, i will wait for it instead.I don’t think ai03 has made any promise about a future 65% Polaris. So just assume it may never happen.
Post by: wootensims on Wed, 07 August 2019, 22:24:57
Second question. I'm going to get MT3 zerika, should I go e-yellow or polycarbonate? :-\ I will be choosing a clear brass plate in either case.
Post by: KingOfMemes on Wed, 07 August 2019, 22:43:32
Two questions. How serious is the polycarbonate warning? I always liked the way the TGR 910re polycarbonate looked, and I read some reviews that talked about some warping here and there--but it seemed that overall it wasn't anything deal breaking. Is there a reason to expect the polaris polycarbonate to be significantly worse than the TGR?e yellow for the serika. In the words of the #1 artist in the world:
Second question. I'm going to get MT3 zerika, should I go e-yellow or polycarbonate? :-\ I will be choosing a clear brass plate in either case.
"Baby, it's a no brainer."
- Justin Bieber
Post by: .Udon on Wed, 07 August 2019, 23:17:04
Rose Gold is very hard to capture and the hue changes depending on the light source. I have a Rose Gold Prism Switch Opener (designed by ai03, produced by kbdfans) and it's the same situation.Has KBDfans done Rose Gold before? Can't seem to find anything on their site.
Yes, I've posted a recent one (Fusion60): https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101726.msg2790447#msg2790447
That looks more Champagne :|
Post by: lightingghost on Wed, 07 August 2019, 23:33:32
Post by: bengine on Wed, 07 August 2019, 23:51:40
Is there any pictures for polycarbonate samples?
https://www.instagram.com/p/B0xxPPyH-FY/
Post by: jooobe on Thu, 08 August 2019, 06:48:00
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Post by: Fabi on Thu, 08 August 2019, 07:53:59
"Base kit contents:
- Case Hales
- plate
- pcb
- gasket, screws
-foam
"
Then you have the option to choose the plate and also put it into your cart.
Does it mean you have to purchase the plate separately or is it contained within the base kit (within the $225)?
Post by: manzel on Thu, 08 August 2019, 08:08:05
Post by: konradb on Thu, 08 August 2019, 11:31:32
Post by: mr.squishy on Thu, 08 August 2019, 11:34:29
Some ano samples shared on Discord:Still no green....
Post by: xantiema on Thu, 08 August 2019, 12:05:52
Post by: jooobe on Thu, 08 August 2019, 12:20:30
Is it an aluminium plate included in the kit for 265$? And then +40$ for a brass one?Nah, it's whatever the plate you chose
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Post by: phlux on Thu, 08 August 2019, 12:21:55
Is it an aluminium plate included in the kit for 265$? And then +40$ for a brass one?
Brass, FR-4, and PC are the only plate options. The $265 kit is anodized aluminum case, pcb, and a brass plate. When adding a Polaris to your cart, you will see the case/pcb and plate as two separate items.
Post by: LubedNReady on Thu, 08 August 2019, 12:32:20
Some ano samples shared on Discord:
I thought seeing more samples would make my choice easier. It's not.
Purple...e-yellow..."burgundy"...OH MY
Post by: xantiema on Thu, 08 August 2019, 12:58:45
Is it an aluminium plate included in the kit for 265$? And then +40$ for a brass one?
Brass, FR-4, and PC are the only plate options. The $265 kit is anodized aluminum case, pcb, and a brass plate. When adding a Polaris to your cart, you will see the case/pcb and plate as two separate items.
Shows as 2 alright, but it is adding the price https://imgur.com/a/bwJymlZ
Post by: phlux on Thu, 08 August 2019, 13:10:23
Is it an aluminium plate included in the kit for 265$? And then +40$ for a brass one?
Brass, FR-4, and PC are the only plate options. The $265 kit is anodized aluminum case, pcb, and a brass plate. When adding a Polaris to your cart, you will see the case/pcb and plate as two separate items.
Shows as 2 alright, but it is adding the price https://imgur.com/a/bwJymlZ
You've chosen the e-white version, which is an extra $40. Your cart and total are correct for the e-white version with a brass plate.
Post by: jooobe on Thu, 08 August 2019, 14:01:47
YupIs it an aluminium plate included in the kit for 265$? And then +40$ for a brass one?
Brass, FR-4, and PC are the only plate options. The $265 kit is anodized aluminum case, pcb, and a brass plate. When adding a Polaris to your cart, you will see the case/pcb and plate as two separate items.
Shows as 2 alright, but it is adding the price https://imgur.com/a/bwJymlZ
You've chosen the e-white version, which is an extra $40. Your cart and total are correct for the e-white version with a brass plate.
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Post by: Vireca on Thu, 08 August 2019, 14:08:02
What's the best feeling plate for linear switches?It's subjective, but i'd say full brass. The new half-plate and/or PC plate hotness is usually for those who want to get more from their tactile switches.
No, half plates or soft materials like PC or POM are better for linear, because there isnt a bump and the bottom out its progressive. With a tactile the bottom out and actuation will feel a bit weird cuz the flexibility of PCB or plate. At least this is what people answer me. I had the same question
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 08 August 2019, 14:22:08
... but progressive linear bottom out being better than a stiffer bottom out is subjective, as is tactility on flex material. Not everyone has the same taste.What's the best feeling plate for linear switches?It's subjective, but i'd say full brass. The new half-plate and/or PC plate hotness is usually for those who want to get more from their tactile switches.
No, half plates or soft materials like PC or POM are better for linear, because there isnt a bump and the bottom out its progressive. With a tactile the bottom out and actuation will feel a bit weird cuz the flexibility of PCB or plate. At least this is what people answer me. I had the same question
Regardless, my opinions are objectively more correct than others, so when I say softer plates are better for linears, and stiffer plates are better for tactiles, you best believe that's the gospel truth.
Post by: vegs on Thu, 08 August 2019, 14:22:38
What's the best feeling plate for linear switches?It's subjective, but i'd say full brass. The new half-plate and/or PC plate hotness is usually for those who want to get more from their tactile switches.
No, half plates or soft materials like PC or POM are better for linear, because there isnt a bump and the bottom out its progressive. With a tactile the bottom out and actuation will feel a bit weird cuz the flexibility of PCB or plate. At least this is what people answer me. I had the same question
FYI all plate materials work for all MX-style switches 👍
Post by: NolaSwag on Thu, 08 August 2019, 14:42:07
Post by: valkyr1e on Thu, 08 August 2019, 15:10:22
Some ano samples shared on Discord:
Is it possible to have the black pvd weight alongside these ano samples?
Post by: jwilthethrill on Thu, 08 August 2019, 18:55:00
Post by: sevenseacat on Thu, 08 August 2019, 18:56:04
Post by: Zombo on Fri, 09 August 2019, 00:01:03
Post by: hyppialonso on Fri, 09 August 2019, 05:24:49
Post by: bengine on Fri, 09 August 2019, 05:28:59
is shipping included in the price $265 ?Yes
Post by: hyppialonso on Fri, 09 August 2019, 05:34:21
Post by: bengine on Fri, 09 August 2019, 05:40:28
sorry to bother again but may I know what plate option should I go for If I want to order HHKB layout, universal or Tsangan/WKL?Both support HHKB layout, but best will be to use Tsangan/WKL plate, since it’ll has less cutouts.
Post by: nathanchere on Fri, 09 August 2019, 06:34:15
this :(Some ano samples shared on Discord:Still no green....
Post by: ArmedPenguin on Fri, 09 August 2019, 07:38:42
Post by: nathanchere on Fri, 09 August 2019, 08:19:23
I suppose e-white is prone to yellowing over time? Anyone with experience on this?I would be more concerned with cracking from what I've heard about e-coating's susceptibility to UV light damage. If in doubt, maybe just stick to a standard finish.
Post by: LubedNReady on Fri, 09 August 2019, 08:48:46
I suppose e-white is prone to yellowing over time? Anyone with experience on this?
some preliminary research tells me that yellowing generally occurs as a fault of the application/curing process. I don't think you're going to experience any yellowing under most circumstances.
Post by: directheatedtriode on Fri, 09 August 2019, 09:15:01
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Post by: LubedNReady on Fri, 09 August 2019, 10:00:08
That purple though. I hope it is really that dark and not pale or lacking in saturation for the final unit
I hope you're not talking about the render. Did you see the images of the sample? It's pretty vibrant, at least in that lighting.
Post by: ramblinrose on Fri, 09 August 2019, 11:50:28
this :(Some ano samples shared on Discord:Still no green....
If the green is anything like kbd67 - it will be very nice. It's a great forest green shade.
Post by: johuu on Fri, 09 August 2019, 11:57:35
Post by: KingOfMemes on Fri, 09 August 2019, 12:00:23
Which firmware is supported?ai03 confirmed in the IC that it will support QMK
Post by: krisst on Fri, 09 August 2019, 13:44:40
What do people think of polycarb plate with tactile switches? To me this seems like it would give the most pleasant typing experience and dampened/deeper sound?
Poly plate will give most flex, compare to fr4 and brass. It's all about preference. I got the brass plate, most likely going for holy yoks, will consider linears too. Too many good linear switches though, will have to do more reading.
Post by: directheatedtriode on Fri, 09 August 2019, 15:47:59
What do people think of polycarb plate with tactile switches? To me this seems like it would give the most pleasant typing experience and dampened/deeper sound?
Poly plate will give most flex, compare to fr4 and brass. It's all about preference. I got the brass plate, most likely going for holy yoks, will consider linears too. Too many good linear switches though, will have to do more reading.
Yeah I am thinking Zilent v2.
Post by: KingOfMemes on Fri, 09 August 2019, 18:48:40
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Post by: jooobe on Fri, 09 August 2019, 19:05:53
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Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 09 August 2019, 19:27:33
What do people think of polycarb plate with tactile switches? To me this seems like it would give the most pleasant typing experience and dampened/deeper sound?
it's pretty good (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jkomusin/42652054882/in/album-72157669951539328/), that's my plan anyways.
Post by: bball2 on Fri, 09 August 2019, 19:52:09
it's pretty good (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jkomusin/42652054882/in/album-72157669951539328/), that's my plan anyways.
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Post by: jooobe on Fri, 09 August 2019, 21:48:08
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Post by: donkey on Sat, 10 August 2019, 00:18:34
So the pcb had underflow?
You must mean underglow. I don't think so. No room to glow while sandwiched between foams.
Post by: krisst on Sat, 10 August 2019, 07:05:13
So the pcb had underflow?
You must mean underglow. I don't think so. No room to glow while sandwiched between foams.
The pcb have smd rgb leds on the underside. Bottom foam pad have cutouts too. Though if you are not getting poly case, the rgb will be of no use.
Post by: jooobe on Sat, 10 August 2019, 08:46:20
Kbdfans staff says it does, I don't see it mentioned any where thoSo the pcb had underflow?
You must mean underglow. I don't think so. No room to glow while sandwiched between foams.
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Post by: jooobe on Sat, 10 August 2019, 08:46:43
Ahhh thxSo the pcb had underflow?
You must mean underglow. I don't think so. No room to glow while sandwiched between foams.
The pcb have smd rgb leds on the underside. Bottom foam pad have cutouts too. Though if you are not getting poly case, the rgb will be of no use.
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Post by: Kingk22 on Sat, 10 August 2019, 10:12:04
Post by: nathanchere on Sun, 11 August 2019, 10:39:01
Post by: valkyr1e on Sun, 11 August 2019, 16:49:25
Who do we have to poke to get a better indication what "forest green" will look like?
Probably close to this:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1473/3902/products/10_be2316c4-1583-48b5-b9f0-50b97e482dc4_1800x1800.jpg?v=1564306458)
Post by: Etherealsound on Sun, 11 August 2019, 19:54:02
Post by: jooobe on Sun, 11 August 2019, 20:06:00
Don't know if it's allowed but can I post the color samples from discord here for people by chance?Yes
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Post by: ilemondrop on Sun, 11 August 2019, 20:25:44
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 11 August 2019, 20:37:09
Hey, new to the community, is a value case like this rare?
no but the odds of it being run again are unclear
buying 2 now is a lot easier than trying to find a second one in the exact spec you want later
Post by: jooobe on Sun, 11 August 2019, 20:41:59
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Post by: valkyr1e on Mon, 12 August 2019, 08:10:08
A picture of the KBD8x mkii space gray (should be very similar to the Polaris space gray) with the Polaris black pvd weight.
(https://i.imgur.com/bOmsK32.jpg)
Credit to AI03. It was posted on the Polaris discord server.
Post by: KingOfMemes on Mon, 12 August 2019, 08:34:57
For those who are wondering:Is there any way to get a better pic? That looks brown with the lighting
A picture of the KBD8x mkii space gray (should be very similar to the Polaris space gray) with the Polaris black pvd weight.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bOmsK32.jpg)
Credit to AI03. It was posted on the Polaris discord server.
Post by: LubedNReady on Mon, 12 August 2019, 09:07:37
Who do we have to poke to get a better indication what "forest green" will look like?
Probably close to this:Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1473/3902/products/10_be2316c4-1583-48b5-b9f0-50b97e482dc4_1800x1800.jpg?v=1564306458)
I would absolutely not assume or hope that's what it looks like. I know he's called it "forest green" but based on 100% of the evidence presented, it will be saturated green-green. Not forest green. The "burgundy red" is almost fire red / slightly orange. the renders look nothing like the anodized samples.
My guess is that he came up with the names and gave those to whoever was doing the renders - then he made a color swatch and gave that to the manu. We've wound up with two drastically different ideas of what the boards will look like, but all with the same (wrong) color names.
Just my two sense: the entire first two weeks of this GB has been people asking for COHESIVE color samples. people aren't asking for white balanced/extremely color accurate samples, they're just asking for all of the colors to be as close to final and all laid out next to each other. I don't think it's an unreasonable request - I do think that ai03 has put in a bunch of hard work and is frustrated with what seems like "a small issue". Conversely, people are frustrated because they think something as simple as color samples should be a priority for any group buy.
Post by: rockydbull on Mon, 12 August 2019, 10:23:21
Who do we have to poke to get a better indication what "forest green" will look like?
Probably close to this:Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1473/3902/products/10_be2316c4-1583-48b5-b9f0-50b97e482dc4_1800x1800.jpg?v=1564306458)
I would absolutely not assume or hope that's what it looks like. I know he's called it "forest green" but based on 100% of the evidence presented, it will be saturated green-green. Not forest green. The "burgundy red" is almost fire red / slightly orange. the renders look nothing like the anodized samples.
My guess is that he came up with the names and gave those to whoever was doing the renders - then he made a color swatch and gave that to the manu. We've wound up with two drastically different ideas of what the boards will look like, but all with the same (wrong) color names.
Just my two sense: the entire first two weeks of this GB has been people asking for COHESIVE color samples. people aren't asking for white balanced/extremely color accurate samples, they're just asking for all of the colors to be as close to final and all laid out next to each other. I don't think it's an unreasonable request - I do think that ai03 has put in a bunch of hard work and is frustrated with what seems like "a small issue". Conversely, people are frustrated because they think something as simple as color samples should be a priority for any group buy.
Considering this is being run through KBDfans I don't think its unreasonable that they can achieve "forest green" to the extent they have in other boards like the tofu. Kbdfans has run two distinct greens before. The darker green and a bright green. I don't see how either could be confused with each other and the bright green is far off from the swatch they are trying to match to on the website. I do agree the renders do not match the swatches well, but IMO the swatches match reality better. Just look at the swatch for "burgandy red." It looks exactly like you described of an orange red.
Post by: sevenseacat on Mon, 12 August 2019, 10:41:53
Post by: rockydbull on Mon, 12 August 2019, 10:49:48
Hence why black will probably be the most popular colour, people have been burnt too many times with mismatching colours...
Or that its a basic color that matches tons of keycap sets (way better than grey imo)... No way a large portion of buyers are as caught up in the shades of the colors like yall are.
Post by: mr.squishy on Mon, 12 August 2019, 11:01:30
Post by: KingOfMemes on Mon, 12 August 2019, 11:32:44
Heaven forbid people dropping $265 on a product want to be as informed as they possibly can about the product they are purchasing lolHence why black will probably be the most popular colour, people have been burnt too many times with mismatching colours...
Or that its a basic color that matches tons of keycap sets (way better than grey imo)... No way a large portion of buyers are as caught up in the shades of the colors like yall are.
Post by: nasp on Mon, 12 August 2019, 12:28:24
It's a decent chunk of change. I'm not going to be getting one unless a color sample for the green is released, this is absurd. So, count me out I guess.
Since the Fusion60 ran through KBDFans, it'd be nice if they could confirm that colors from that board will be similar to the Polaris' colors. But I suppose this is one of the pitfalls of going with a medium tier manufacturer, not a high end one.
Post by: rockydbull on Mon, 12 August 2019, 12:40:34
Heaven forbid people dropping $265 on a product want to be as informed as they possibly can about the product they are purchasing lolHence why black will probably be the most popular colour, people have been burnt too many times with mismatching colours...
Or that its a basic color that matches tons of keycap sets (way better than grey imo)... No way a large portion of buyers are as caught up in the shades of the colors like yall are.
I was responding to the contention that black will be the highest sold color because people are spooked of the other colors and not because its always a popular color choice.
Post by: LubedNReady on Mon, 12 August 2019, 12:44:11
Hence why black will probably be the most popular colour, people have been burnt too many times with mismatching colours...
Or that its a basic color that matches tons of keycap sets (way better than grey imo)... No way a large portion of buyers are as caught up in the shades of the colors like yall are.
LOL I can see you're not a Discord user. I've spent the last week in discord watching people ask about colors. If you think this isn't the biggest point of contention for most people, I'd have to disagree.
And that's my biggest point: for something that doesn't actually have anything to do with the performance or value offered here, why is it such a pain in the ass? why is something "so simple and not important" so hard to nail down? if it's "not a big deal" then the board should not have been offered in multiple colors OR the GB should not have gone live until they were finalized. I agree, color isn't important. But you don't offer a bunch of color options and let people just figure it out when they get the product.
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Post by: KingOfMemes on Mon, 12 August 2019, 13:06:15
That's why you just buy Poly, White, black, or silver unless you are willing to gamble getting screwed on less obvious colorwaysHence why black will probably be the most popular colour, people have been burnt too many times with mismatching colours...
Or that its a basic color that matches tons of keycap sets (way better than grey imo)... No way a large portion of buyers are as caught up in the shades of the colors like yall are.
LOL I can see you're not a Discord user. I've spent the last week in discord watching people ask about colors. If you think this isn't the biggest point of contention for most people, I'd have to disagree.
And that's my biggest point: for something that doesn't actually have anything to do with the performance or value offered here, why is it such a pain in the ass? why is something "so simple and not important" so hard to nail down? if it's "not a big deal" then the board should not have been offered in multiple colors OR the GB should not have gone live until they were finalized. I agree, color isn't important. But you don't offer a bunch of color options and let people just figure it out when they get the product.
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Post by: rockydbull on Mon, 12 August 2019, 13:10:02
Hence why black will probably be the most popular colour, people have been burnt too many times with mismatching colours...
Or that its a basic color that matches tons of keycap sets (way better than grey imo)... No way a large portion of buyers are as caught up in the shades of the colors like yall are.
LOL I can see you're not a Discord user. I've spent the last week in discord watching people ask about colors. If you think this isn't the biggest point of contention for most people, I'd have to disagree.
And that's my biggest point: for something that doesn't actually have anything to do with the performance or value offered here, why is it such a pain in the ass? why is something "so simple and not important" so hard to nail down? if it's "not a big deal" then the board should not have been offered in multiple colors OR the GB should not have gone live until they were finalized. I agree, color isn't important. But you don't offer a bunch of color options and let people just figure it out when they get the product.
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LOL if you think that Discord users make up the majority of buyers. I agree anode samples should be up, but I don't agree that the lack of samples is dictating color choice for a majority of users OR that black will be the highest sold because people are spooked about what the colors will turn out like (instead of just being a very popular case color in general).
Post by: nguyenhimself on Mon, 12 August 2019, 13:53:59
Literal samples here & yet everyone’s still arguing.Who do we have to poke to get a better indication what "forest green" will look like?
Probably close to this:Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1473/3902/products/10_be2316c4-1583-48b5-b9f0-50b97e482dc4_1800x1800.jpg?v=1564306458)
Unwatching this thread. You guys suck at making decisions & are too noisy about it.
Post by: LubedNReady on Mon, 12 August 2019, 14:40:10
Literal samples here & yet everyone’s still arguing.Who do we have to poke to get a better indication what "forest green" will look like?
Probably close to this:Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1473/3902/products/10_be2316c4-1583-48b5-b9f0-50b97e482dc4_1800x1800.jpg?v=1564306458)
Unwatching this thread. You guys suck at making decisions & are too noisy about it.
But that's the problem - there isn't enough clear information. And where is there a sample/picture of the forest green? This is my current understanding of the color situation:
The renders were done early (obviously).
The color swatch was provided for color matching the final product.
The ano samples look like the swatches but NOT like the renders (lighting/monitor/white balance aside).
The colors will be matched to the swatches and NOT the renders (you can see this by comparing the samples to the swatches). The samples (and swatch) are what the final product will look like.
The red in the swatch is not burgundy. And the green is not forest green.
This is the reality I have chosen to accept.
Post by: KingOfMemes on Mon, 12 August 2019, 14:56:38
So... what you are mad about is that renders, ano samples, and swatches are different from each other, and are randomly scattered and spread out all over kbdfans site, discord, and comments in the GB and IC?Literal samples here & yet everyone’s still arguing.Who do we have to poke to get a better indication what "forest green" will look like?
Probably close to this:Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1473/3902/products/10_be2316c4-1583-48b5-b9f0-50b97e482dc4_1800x1800.jpg?v=1564306458)
Unwatching this thread. You guys suck at making decisions & are too noisy about it.
But that's the problem - there isn't enough clear information. And where is there a sample/picture of the forest green? This is my current understanding of the color situation:
The renders were done early (obviously).
The color swatch was provided for color matching the final product.
The ano samples look like the swatches but NOT like the renders (lighting/monitor/white balance aside).
The colors will be matched to the swatches and NOT the renders (you can see this by comparing the samples to the swatches). The samples (and swatch) are what the final product will look like.
The red in the swatch is not burgundy. And the green is not forest green.
This is the reality I have chosen to accept.
Post by: alanskiii on Tue, 13 August 2019, 00:58:42
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Post by: donkey on Tue, 13 August 2019, 01:11:52
The renders were done early (obviously).
The color swatch was provided for color matching the final product.
The ano samples look like the swatches but NOT like the renders (lighting/monitor/white balance aside).
The colors will be matched to the swatches and NOT the renders (you can see this by comparing the samples to the swatches). The samples (and swatch) are what the final product will look like.
The red in the swatch is not burgundy. And the green is not forest green.
This is the reality I have chosen to accept.
This is a common problem in online retail, not just among MK vendors, because it takes resource and expertise to show true colors to customers.
Based on experience, no amount of jumping up and down will deliver satisfactory result, meaning the best we can do is make do with what we're given. With Tofu, I placed my 'bet' on Dark Green and got lucky. With Polaris, I went with Black because it's the safest bet.
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 13 August 2019, 01:39:43
Hi guys, this is my first custom and I got a noob question. Does the polaris take plate mount, screw in, or both for stabs?
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Looks like it uses PCB mount stabilizers so go with screw-in or snap-in stabs.
Post by: alanskiii on Tue, 13 August 2019, 02:21:49
Hi guys, this is my first custom and I got a noob question. Does the polaris take plate mount, screw in, or both for stabs?
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Looks like it uses PCB mount stabilizers so go with screw-in or snap-in stabs.
Cool thank you!
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Post by: ai03 on Tue, 13 August 2019, 06:45:38
The color table in the KBDfans product page reflects the Pantone swatches that will be used for color matching. Obviously, there will be variations due to monitor color calibration, lighting, physical material differences, ano batch variations, and such. If you need an exact color match, I highly, highly discourage you from buying this product. Just don't; you'll be disappointed and it will be a waste of your money.
We will try to order further ano samples, but the reality is that it is extremely straining on factory relations after doing 7 rounds of prototyping. Doing one-offs is extremely unprofitable for the factory, and each attempt makes the workers unhappy.
Kevinplus is currently learning how to use more advanced rendering software to produce more realistic renders. Renders made through this may be a better representation of the color options than the 2D color chart; however, learning is not something done in a single day, so it will take some time before they appear.
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 13 August 2019, 06:52:41
Regarding color samples, I could produce a one-off in every color option if I had a few thousand dollars sitting around. Unfortunately, that is not the case, especially considering the paper thin profit margins to achieve the price tag.
The color table in the KBDfans product page reflects the Pantone swatches that will be used for color matching. Obviously, there will be variations due to monitor color calibration, lighting, physical material differences, ano batch variations, and such. If you need an exact color match, I highly, highly discourage you from buying this product. Just don't; you'll be disappointed and it will be a waste of your money.
We will try to order further ano samples, but the reality is that it is extremely straining on factory relations after doing 7 rounds of prototyping. Doing one-offs is extremely unprofitable for the factory, and each attempt makes the workers unhappy.
Kevinplus is currently learning how to use more advanced rendering software to produce more realistic renders. Renders made through this may be a better representation of the color options than the 2D color chart; however, learning is not something done in a single day, so it will take some time before they appear.
bravo. :thumb:
Post by: bobgr8 on Tue, 13 August 2019, 07:54:40
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 13 August 2019, 18:22:01
Hi guys, this is my first custom and I got a noob question. Does the polaris take plate mount, screw in, or both for stabs?
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you want screw in
Post by: jooobe on Tue, 13 August 2019, 20:58:10
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Post by: alanskiii on Tue, 13 August 2019, 21:54:55
Hi guys, this is my first custom and I got a noob question. Does the polaris take plate mount, screw in, or both for stabs?
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you want screw in
Yup, definitely
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Post by: BIGTUNAA on Sun, 18 August 2019, 10:09:13
So I'm thinking E-White?? MAN DO I WANT ROSE GOLD THOUGH.....Maybe the blue gray since it looks more gunmetal-ish in the renders? Keycap sets that flow well with E-White/Blue Gray?
WKL or Standard?? I game heavily(FPS mostly) so not sure if WKL spacing/missing key will mess me up or something but I love the WKL aesthetic.
Full Brass plate and extra Poly full...just in case I don't like the Brass for some reason.
Also not set on a switch just yet (recommend something)... but I'm a big Synthwave/Outrun/Miami/Cyberpunk fan and I did join the Laser ALT drop with box whites so I have that coming later this year.
Currently using a white Miya68 w/ Cherry Silvers & Tai-Hao Miami. First board off a "gamer keyboard" and just started falling down this rabbit hole a few months ago....sorry this was kind of long but WISH my wallet and I luck!
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 19 August 2019, 04:05:46
I'm in (sorta) just have a few questions before I join next week, as this will be my first build and all.
So I'm thinking E-White?? MAN DO I WANT ROSE GOLD THOUGH.....Maybe the blue gray since it looks more gunmetal-ish in the renders? Keycap sets that flow well with E-White/Blue Gray?
WKL or Standard?? I game heavily(FPS mostly) so not sure if WKL spacing/missing key will mess me up or something but I love the WKL aesthetic.
Full Brass plate and extra Poly full...just in case I don't like the Brass for some reason.
Also not set on a switch just yet (recommend something)... but I'm a big Synthwave/Outrun/Miami/Cyberpunk fan and I did join the Laser ALT drop with box whites so I have that coming later this year.
Currently using a white Miya68 w/ Cherry Silvers & Tai-Hao Miami. First board off a "gamer keyboard" and just started falling down this rabbit hole a few months ago....sorry this was kind of long but WISH my wallet and I luck!
I loved the WKL aesthetic as well until I bought a WKL board. In practice it was just annoying. That said, I have grown very happy with the HHKB feel and aesthetic so it's not just a case of sticking to what you know but I would still be hesitant to recommend spending any serious money on a WKL board until you've spent some time trying it out first.
Post by: geewiz on Mon, 19 August 2019, 04:10:16
I loved the WKL aesthetic as well until I bought a WKL board. In practice it was just annoying. That said, I have grown very happy with the HHKB feel and aesthetic so it's not just a case of sticking to what you know but I would still be hesitant to recommend spending any serious money on a WKL board until you've spent some time trying it out first.
I concur. Since I've started mapping CapsLock to Ctrl, I'd like a less crowded bottom row on my next keyboard. The gap in WKL doesn't make sense to me, so I ordered the Polaris in HHKB layout yesterday.
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 19 August 2019, 05:27:51
Post by: KingOfMemes on Mon, 19 August 2019, 08:19:55
Given all the bull**** going on with their last custom board groupbuy (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98959) I'm having a hard time trusting kbdfans enough to buy in on this one too. Delays happen but the lack of open and honest communication about it all is pretty worrying.Which sucks, because this is up there with the Leaf60 as the most appealing (to me) group buy in a long time.Wasn't most of that drama about attempting to limit the release, but kbdfans not enforcing a limit at the start, and then all of the **** that happened after? If that's the case, I don't think you have much to worry about this gb. The only drama that's been happening here are the swatches, renders, and samples not matching each other in color.
Post by: BIGTUNAA on Mon, 19 August 2019, 12:10:17
I'm all for the HHKB but I feel like it will mess with my main games that use ALT-look..hell Escape From Tarkov even uses the Caps Lock key but I can just change that...
ANYWAY screw it I think I'm just going to join for HHKB, E-White (maybe blue-gray/rose gold...but those renders seem off) and make this a "pretty non-gaming board" :D
When I buy/join normal GB's or caps I'd need spacebar mods also? correct?
Post by: Mekberg on Mon, 19 August 2019, 12:12:28
Post by: modeseven on Tue, 20 August 2019, 04:56:08
I have read vague references about flex due to the thin pcb. Does that mean I should go with Brass?
I am new to all this, sorry for any obvious or silly questions.
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 20 August 2019, 05:36:31
What plate would you guys recommend for tactile switches (for example zealios)? Brass, Polycarbonate or FR4?
I have read vague references about flex due to the thin pcb. Does that mean I should go with Brass?
I am new to all this, sorry for any obvious or silly questions.
Mmm, every board is a bit different and there hasn't been too many boards with a "thin" PCB so it's hard to tell but I'd suggest brass and/or polycarbonate. It's hard to choose for another person as each of us have different preferences.
Here's a quick description about each material from Polaris plate sale page (https://kbdfans.com/collections/polaris/products/gb-polaris-60-extra-plate):
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Materials:
- Brass: A stiff metal with a deep sound. Firm bottom-out that pairs well with tactiles and some linears.
- FR4: A durable yet flexible fiberglass that is often used for PCBs. Medium firmness, slightly bouncy bottom-out that works for most switches.
- Poly: A flexible plastic that is more resistant to cracking than acrylic. Very soft bottom-out that works with linears.
Post by: modeseven on Tue, 20 August 2019, 05:57:23
Post by: modeseven on Fri, 23 August 2019, 05:50:46
I'm in (sorta) just have a few questions before I join next week, as this will be my first build and all.
So I'm thinking E-White?? MAN DO I WANT ROSE GOLD THOUGH.....Maybe the blue gray since it looks more gunmetal-ish in the renders? Keycap sets that flow well with E-White/Blue Gray?
WKL or Standard?? I game heavily(FPS mostly) so not sure if WKL spacing/missing key will mess me up or something but I love the WKL aesthetic.
Full Brass plate and extra Poly full...just in case I don't like the Brass for some reason.
Also not set on a switch just yet (recommend something)... but I'm a big Synthwave/Outrun/Miami/Cyberpunk fan and I did join the Laser ALT drop with box whites so I have that coming later this year.
Currently using a white Miya68 w/ Cherry Silvers & Tai-Hao Miami. First board off a "gamer keyboard" and just started falling down this rabbit hole a few months ago....sorry this was kind of long but WISH my wallet and I luck!
I loved the WKL aesthetic as well until I bought a WKL board. In practice it was just annoying. That said, I have grown very happy with the HHKB feel and aesthetic so it's not just a case of sticking to what you know but I would still be hesitant to recommend spending any serious money on a WKL board until you've spent some time trying it out first.
Damn, I was so confident in choosing WKL, but you guys have me second guessing. I never actually tried WKL in person, but can you explain to me why it might be annoying/bad idea? It seems like HHKB is a bigger departure from the standard layout and WKL is just the removal of the windows key? If I don't use the windows key all that often, I should be good? Thanks in advance for any insight.
Post by: ramblinrose on Fri, 23 August 2019, 05:58:39
Post by: Nujabez0 on Fri, 23 August 2019, 06:04:06
I'm in (sorta) just have a few questions before I join next week, as this will be my first build and all.
So I'm thinking E-White?? MAN DO I WANT ROSE GOLD THOUGH.....Maybe the blue gray since it looks more gunmetal-ish in the renders? Keycap sets that flow well with E-White/Blue Gray?
WKL or Standard?? I game heavily(FPS mostly) so not sure if WKL spacing/missing key will mess me up or something but I love the WKL aesthetic.
Full Brass plate and extra Poly full...just in case I don't like the Brass for some reason.
Also not set on a switch just yet (recommend something)... but I'm a big Synthwave/Outrun/Miami/Cyberpunk fan and I did join the Laser ALT drop with box whites so I have that coming later this year.
Currently using a white Miya68 w/ Cherry Silvers & Tai-Hao Miami. First board off a "gamer keyboard" and just started falling down this rabbit hole a few months ago....sorry this was kind of long but WISH my wallet and I luck!
I loved the WKL aesthetic as well until I bought a WKL board. In practice it was just annoying. That said, I have grown very happy with the HHKB feel and aesthetic so it's not just a case of sticking to what you know but I would still be hesitant to recommend spending any serious money on a WKL board until you've spent some time trying it out first.
Damn, I was so confident in choosing WKL, but you guys have me second guessing. I never actually tried WKL in person, but can you explain to me why it might be annoying/bad idea? It seems like HHKB is a bigger departure from the standard layout and WKL is just the removal of the windows key? If I don't use the windows key all that often, I should be good? Thanks in advance for any insight.
IMO WKL is the best looking 60% layout (my friend's QXP in WKL is very attractive). I don't see the layout losing much of anything as you do have QMK to nullify any negatives by make your own keymap. What I did for WKL layout on my TKL was make left ctrl - ctrl, left alt- alt, right alt- Windows, and right ctrl - Function. And it worked without any issues whatsoever. If you do thing that missing arrow keys is a big issue in the future, I would wait for a polaris 65% as ai03 said in his discord he will release one after the 60% polaris.
Post by: modeseven on Fri, 23 August 2019, 06:13:56
I'm in (sorta) just have a few questions before I join next week, as this will be my first build and all.
So I'm thinking E-White?? MAN DO I WANT ROSE GOLD THOUGH.....Maybe the blue gray since it looks more gunmetal-ish in the renders? Keycap sets that flow well with E-White/Blue Gray?
WKL or Standard?? I game heavily(FPS mostly) so not sure if WKL spacing/missing key will mess me up or something but I love the WKL aesthetic.
Full Brass plate and extra Poly full...just in case I don't like the Brass for some reason.
Also not set on a switch just yet (recommend something)... but I'm a big Synthwave/Outrun/Miami/Cyberpunk fan and I did join the Laser ALT drop with box whites so I have that coming later this year.
Currently using a white Miya68 w/ Cherry Silvers & Tai-Hao Miami. First board off a "gamer keyboard" and just started falling down this rabbit hole a few months ago....sorry this was kind of long but WISH my wallet and I luck!
I loved the WKL aesthetic as well until I bought a WKL board. In practice it was just annoying. That said, I have grown very happy with the HHKB feel and aesthetic so it's not just a case of sticking to what you know but I would still be hesitant to recommend spending any serious money on a WKL board until you've spent some time trying it out first.
Damn, I was so confident in choosing WKL, but you guys have me second guessing. I never actually tried WKL in person, but can you explain to me why it might be annoying/bad idea? It seems like HHKB is a bigger departure from the standard layout and WKL is just the removal of the windows key? If I don't use the windows key all that often, I should be good? Thanks in advance for any insight.
IMO WKL is the best looking 60% layout (my friend's QXP in WKL is very attractive). I don't see the layout losing much of anything as you do have QMK to nullify any negatives by make your own keymap. What I did for WKL layout on my TKL was make left ctrl - ctrl, left alt- alt, right alt- Windows, and right ctrl - Function. And it worked without any issues whatsoever. If you do thing that missing arrow keys is a big issue in the future, I would wait for a polaris 65% as ai03 said in his discord he will release one after the 60% polaris.
I was considering splitting the right shift key to shift/fn, but I like your idea better. Much more functional and symmetrical (aesthetically pleasing). Thank you and everyone for the feedback.
Post by: ilezia on Fri, 23 August 2019, 06:15:43
I know the asymmetry might give some people anxiety so asking for a friend.
Post by: bobgr8 on Fri, 23 August 2019, 07:42:37
I'm in (sorta) just have a few questions before I join next week, as this will be my first build and all.
So I'm thinking E-White?? MAN DO I WANT ROSE GOLD THOUGH.....Maybe the blue gray since it looks more gunmetal-ish in the renders? Keycap sets that flow well with E-White/Blue Gray?
WKL or Standard?? I game heavily(FPS mostly) so not sure if WKL spacing/missing key will mess me up or something but I love the WKL aesthetic.
Full Brass plate and extra Poly full...just in case I don't like the Brass for some reason.
Also not set on a switch just yet (recommend something)... but I'm a big Synthwave/Outrun/Miami/Cyberpunk fan and I did join the Laser ALT drop with box whites so I have that coming later this year.
Currently using a white Miya68 w/ Cherry Silvers & Tai-Hao Miami. First board off a "gamer keyboard" and just started falling down this rabbit hole a few months ago....sorry this was kind of long but WISH my wallet and I luck!
I loved the WKL aesthetic as well until I bought a WKL board. In practice it was just annoying. That said, I have grown very happy with the HHKB feel and aesthetic so it's not just a case of sticking to what you know but I would still be hesitant to recommend spending any serious money on a WKL board until you've spent some time trying it out first.
Damn, I was so confident in choosing WKL, but you guys have me second guessing. I never actually tried WKL in person, but can you explain to me why it might be annoying/bad idea? It seems like HHKB is a bigger departure from the standard layout and WKL is just the removal of the windows key? If I don't use the windows key all that often, I should be good? Thanks in advance for any insight.
IMO WKL is the best looking 60% layout (my friend's QXP in WKL is very attractive). I don't see the layout losing much of anything as you do have QMK to nullify any negatives by make your own keymap. What I did for WKL layout on my TKL was make left ctrl - ctrl, left alt- alt, right alt- Windows, and right ctrl - Function. And it worked without any issues whatsoever. If you do thing that missing arrow keys is a big issue in the future, I would wait for a polaris 65% as ai03 said in his discord he will release one after the 60% polaris.
Gib Polaris 65
Post by: 8six753o9 on Fri, 23 August 2019, 08:58:20
Am I correct that with the HHKB case and universal plate I could have a bottom row of 1.25U + 6.25U + 1.25U + 1.25U? Whereas a standard (WKL/Tsangan) would be 1.5U + 7U + 1.5U?HHKB = 1u + 1.5u + 7u + 1.5u +1u
I know the asymmetry might give some people anxiety so asking for a friend.
So no.
Post by: KingOfMemes on Fri, 23 August 2019, 09:32:06
Semi on topic... do I go universal or wkl/t plate for an HHKB case?Am I correct that with the HHKB case and universal plate I could have a bottom row of 1.25U + 6.25U + 1.25U + 1.25U? Whereas a standard (WKL/Tsangan) would be 1.5U + 7U + 1.5U?HHKB = 1u + 1.5u + 7u + 1.5u +1u
I know the asymmetry might give some people anxiety so asking for a friend.
So no.
Post by: rockydbull on Fri, 23 August 2019, 09:36:27
Semi on topic... do I go universal or wkl/t plate for an HHKB case?Am I correct that with the HHKB case and universal plate I could have a bottom row of 1.25U + 6.25U + 1.25U + 1.25U? Whereas a standard (WKL/Tsangan) would be 1.5U + 7U + 1.5U?HHKB = 1u + 1.5u + 7u + 1.5u +1u
I know the asymmetry might give some people anxiety so asking for a friend.
So no.
If you need a layout that universal supports obviously get universal. If going standard hhkb less cutouts means straighter switches so that is a pro (but could also just use 5 pin switches). In theory less cutouts should be a firmer heavier plate which would lend itself to the brass plate option. I would probably also lean to less cutouts for pom for less thin weak points that could crack. FR-4 it probably doesnt matter.
Post by: Brez1623 on Fri, 23 August 2019, 11:34:14
Post by: bball2 on Mon, 26 August 2019, 17:02:11
Got a burgundy red wkl / clear matte pvd brass plate + secondary pcb / fr-4 full plate. Thinking of zealios v2 on the fr-4 plate and cream switches on the brass plate.
Post by: jooobe on Mon, 26 August 2019, 21:00:49
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Post by: GrannyRimJobs on Tue, 27 August 2019, 14:17:46
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 27 August 2019, 14:28:59
I'm usually a brass plate man and I don't think my fingers are sensitive enough to really feel the different between a hard or soft bottom out (zilents and holy pandas feel pretty similar to me). But I feel like I would be defeating the point of this case by getting a hard plate, especially with the flex pcb. I'm mainly after sound (something similar to Nathan Kim's keycult no 1 with tealios), so for those who have more experience with poly/fr4 and half plates, which plate set up do you think best replicates that pebble sound?
Difference between poly and FR4 half-plates in a small sandwich-mounted board like this is really splitting hairs, tbh. IMO caps and switch housings will make a bigger difference at that point. FWIW the board I'm typing on right now has Cherry switches with a POM half-plate and GMK, and it sounds very close to
Poly might be a tiny bit softer, and I feel in the boards I've tried it in it's been a little "clickier" than something denser. So maybe FR4. After that just do a good job of lubing your switches and stabilizers and it will sound excellent regardless.
Post by: Mekberg on Tue, 27 August 2019, 14:40:41
Now the hard part begins: the waiting
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Tue, 27 August 2019, 19:48:52
Finally put in my order today! Went with the e-white/black combo and dual sets of brass and poly plates, so I can build a tactile and linear set and swap them if I feel like it :cool:
Now the hard part begins: the waiting
Did you purchase two PCB's as well?
Post by: Mekberg on Wed, 28 August 2019, 00:09:48
Finally put in my order today! Went with the e-white/black combo and dual sets of brass and poly plates, so I can build a tactile and linear set and swap them if I feel like it :cool:
Now the hard part begins: the waiting
Did you purchase two PCB's as well?
Yes, of course. Don’t worry. An extra set of foam pads too :)
Post by: jeniverre on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:43:44
Post by: jooobe on Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:13:13
Damn should I do that tooFinally put in my order today! Went with the e-white/black combo and dual sets of brass and poly plates, so I can build a tactile and linear set and swap them if I feel like it :cool:
Now the hard part begins: the waiting
Did you purchase two PCB's as well?
Yes, of course. Don’t worry. An extra set of foam pads too :)
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Post by: bball2 on Wed, 28 August 2019, 17:16:31
Damn should I do that too
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I would assume you would just reuse the foam pads, unless you want a second set for a backup>
Post by: jooobe on Wed, 28 August 2019, 17:51:37
I think one of the foam goes between plate and pcb so can't reuseDamn should I do that too
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I would assume you would just reuse the foam pads, unless you want a second set for a backup>
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Post by: rockydbull on Thu, 29 August 2019, 13:03:30
Also on the half plates is the foam still used between the switches?
Post by: MK47 on Sat, 31 August 2019, 07:03:16
Post by: rockydbull on Sat, 31 August 2019, 08:24:51
I am considering a HHKB polycarbonate but the warning worries me. Does anyone have experience with polycarbonate cases? How easily does it get damaged in shipping? If it does get damaged in shipping, is there a way to bend it back to shape, would heating it up with a hairdryer work?
https://brianlee.blog/2018/12/14/review-yuktsis-tgr-910re-polycarbonate/
Someone posted this earlier in the thread and I think it does a good job of highlighting the difficulties with polycarbonate cases and to really temper your expectations with it having a perfect fit and finish.
Post by: Robosculpts on Sun, 01 September 2019, 09:02:57
Post by: directheatedtriode on Sun, 01 September 2019, 11:58:04
Post by: jooobe on Sun, 01 September 2019, 12:42:17
Got in on this one! black hhkb case with full poly plate and an extra half brass plate. Pretty stoked for this keyboard. Its my first group buy :)Hopefully you got an extra pcb too
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Post by: konradb on Sun, 01 September 2019, 15:21:57
Any other pictures from the Discord?
I am new to this hobby and I'm super excited to get as many boards as possible. I follow many channels, so here are some updates I find important.
Quote
ai03 22.08.2019
Update regarding ETA
ETA will be pushed back slightly for Polaris due to the sheer number of orders received (Factory can't produce so many in limited amounts of time)
We honestly can't estimate ETA at this point, so it will be more or less "it arrives when it arrives" based on order qty
And ano comparison from Kevinplus. The keyboard at top is kbd8x mkii.
Post by: BIGTUNAA on Sun, 01 September 2019, 16:41:38
I already placed my main order (e-white HHKB w/ both Full Brass & extra Poly), think everything will be fine if i solo order the extra PCB???
I'm guessing I wouldn't really need the extra foam as well, would I?
Post by: Sky Corrigan on Sun, 01 September 2019, 17:06:15
Post by: rockydbull on Sun, 01 September 2019, 17:07:36
Is there a hot swap option?
No
Post by: Robosculpts on Sun, 01 September 2019, 17:55:52
Got in on this one! black hhkb case with full poly plate and an extra half brass plate. Pretty stoked for this keyboard. Its my first group buy :)Hopefully you got an extra pcb too
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sure did!
Post by: jooobe on Sun, 01 September 2019, 18:19:46
Knew I forgot something.....my extra pcb, rip!!!There's a extra add-on for pcb
I already placed my main order (e-white HHKB w/ both Full Brass & extra Poly), think everything will be fine if i solo order the extra PCB???
I'm guessing I wouldn't really need the extra foam as well, would I?
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Post by: Robosculpts on Sun, 01 September 2019, 20:23:38
Knew I forgot something.....my extra pcb, rip!!!
I already placed my main order (e-white HHKB w/ both Full Brass & extra Poly), think everything will be fine if i solo order the extra PCB???
I'm guessing I wouldn't really need the extra foam as well, would I?
I just bought another pcb apart from my initial order. I hope that's okay. Didn't cross my mind that it wouldn't be cool to make another purchase.
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Mon, 02 September 2019, 01:27:17
Knew I forgot something.....my extra pcb, rip!!!
I already placed my main order (e-white HHKB w/ both Full Brass & extra Poly), think everything will be fine if i solo order the extra PCB???
I'm guessing I wouldn't really need the extra foam as well, would I?
I just bought another pcb apart from my initial order. I hope that's okay. Didn't cross my mind that it wouldn't be cool to make another purchase.
You could use the sites support messenger app and ask to cancel both orders; then order again.
Post by: droideggs on Mon, 02 September 2019, 05:05:22
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Mon, 02 September 2019, 07:05:09
I am going to build polaris with the following:
Space Grey, Universal Layout; FR-4 Plate
Gateron Inks, lubed with 205g0
Laser SA Cyberdeck (i hope i will find someone, who would sell / trade me a split-space; so i'd use that!; maybe iso)
Post by: Robosculpts on Mon, 02 September 2019, 07:39:21
Knew I forgot something.....my extra pcb, rip!!!
I already placed my main order (e-white HHKB w/ both Full Brass & extra Poly), think everything will be fine if i solo order the extra PCB???
I'm guessing I wouldn't really need the extra foam as well, would I?
I just bought another pcb apart from my initial order. I hope that's okay. Didn't cross my mind that it wouldn't be cool to make another purchase.
You could use the sites support messenger app and ask to cancel both orders; then order again.
Thanks bud. Quick question, Does it really matter if there are two separate orders?
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Mon, 02 September 2019, 09:15:43
Knew I forgot something.....my extra pcb, rip!!!
I already placed my main order (e-white HHKB w/ both Full Brass & extra Poly), think everything will be fine if i solo order the extra PCB???
I'm guessing I wouldn't really need the extra foam as well, would I?
I just bought another pcb apart from my initial order. I hope that's okay. Didn't cross my mind that it wouldn't be cool to make another purchase.
You could use the sites support messenger app and ask to cancel both orders; then order again.
Thanks bud. Quick question, Does it really matter if there are two separate orders?
You're welcome. It's really only to save you on shipping cost.
*edit: words
Post by: Robosculpts on Mon, 02 September 2019, 09:48:43
shipping is free either way. i reached out on facebook messenger and still have not gotten a reply. Since shipping was free either way, i went with another separate order. shouldn't hurt anything.Knew I forgot something.....my extra pcb, rip!!!You're welcome. It's really only to save you on shipping cost.
I already placed my main order (e-white HHKB w/ both Full Brass & extra Poly), think everything will be fine if i solo order the extra PCB???
I'm guessing I wouldn't really need the extra foam as well, would I?
I just bought another pcb apart from my initial order. I hope that's okay. Didn't cross my mind that it wouldn't be cool to make another purchase.
You could use the sites support messenger app and ask to cancel both orders; then order again.
Thanks bud. Quick question, Does it really matter if there are two separate orders?
Post by: ai03 on Tue, 03 September 2019, 07:30:11
Group buy ends in roughly 3 days.
Due to timezone differences, the GB may end earlier than expected. Please keep this in mind if waiting until the last minute to purchase.
Post by: rockydbull on Tue, 03 September 2019, 08:20:33
Post by: Robosculpts on Tue, 03 September 2019, 09:49:44
Is there a noticeable difference between the plate materials when going half plate? I know for sure full brass is too stiff for me, full fr4 would be fine, and full pc probably ok (dont have one but have used full acrylic so similarish). Where I am getting hung up is in the half plates? Half brass still very stiff? Half fr4 probably the safest bet, but if similar to half brass I would rather the weight of the brass. Half poly insane flex?
I was wondering the same and read somewhere that the full poly plates still had plenty of flex where the half plates had hyper flex. I ended up getting a full poly and half brass with an extra pcb to swap out. I chose brass half plate because its firmer than the others while still giving me plenty of flex. Or so I think.
Post by: rockydbull on Tue, 03 September 2019, 09:57:13
Is there a noticeable difference between the plate materials when going half plate? I know for sure full brass is too stiff for me, full fr4 would be fine, and full pc probably ok (dont have one but have used full acrylic so similarish). Where I am getting hung up is in the half plates? Half brass still very stiff? Half fr4 probably the safest bet, but if similar to half brass I would rather the weight of the brass. Half poly insane flex?
I was wondering the same and read somewhere that the full poly plates still had plenty of flex where the half plates had hyper flex. I ended up getting a full poly and half brass with an extra pcb to swap out. I chose brass half plate because its firmer than the others while still giving me plenty of flex. Or so I think.
Thanks for the input. I am for sure thinking of getting a brass plate (either primary or spare) since I think that will be the hardest material to get after the groupbuy (much easier tog et a fr4 or plastic plate cut). Maybe I will do what you did and go full poly/ half brass.
Post by: valkyr1e on Tue, 03 September 2019, 10:08:19
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/S2gslFr.jpg)
Group buy ends in roughly 3 days.
Due to timezone differences, the GB may end earlier than expected. Please keep this in mind if waiting until the last minute to purchase.
That plate looks sick (with the gold edging)... Is it just a fun rendering, or is this going to be in production?
Post by: 8six753o9 on Tue, 03 September 2019, 10:09:12
That plate looks sick (with the gold edging)... Is it just a fun rendering, or is this going to be in production?I believe that's the FR4 plate.
Post by: Robosculpts on Tue, 03 September 2019, 10:10:12
Post by: goaliedavid on Tue, 03 September 2019, 12:02:17
Got in on this one! black hhkb case with full poly plate and an extra half brass plate. Pretty stoked for this keyboard. Its my first group buy :)Hopefully you got an extra pcb too
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This is my first group buy as well. Is there a reason to buy an additional PCB other than making another one with different switches to swap boards?
I'm curious if another PCB is necessary if I don't want to have two different boards and this is my first time.
Post by: jooobe on Tue, 03 September 2019, 13:13:39
One kit will get you started. For those that want to use different sets of switches they will need additional plate, pcb and foam since the switches and soldered. This way they can just drop in the second plate and pcb with the different switches.Got in on this one! black hhkb case with full poly plate and an extra half brass plate. Pretty stoked for this keyboard. Its my first group buy :)Hopefully you got an extra pcb too
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This is my first group buy as well. Is there a reason to buy an additional PCB other than making another one with different switches to swap boards?
I'm curious if another PCB is necessary if I don't want to have two different boards and this is my first time.
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Post by: rockydbull on Tue, 03 September 2019, 14:08:46
Got in on this one! black hhkb case with full poly plate and an extra half brass plate. Pretty stoked for this keyboard. Its my first group buy :)Hopefully you got an extra pcb too
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This is my first group buy as well. Is there a reason to buy an additional PCB other than making another one with different switches to swap boards?
I'm curious if another PCB is necessary if I don't want to have two different boards and this is my first time.
Got in on this one! black hhkb case with full poly plate and an extra half brass plate. Pretty stoked for this keyboard. Its my first group buy :)Hopefully you got an extra pcb too
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This is my first group buy as well. Is there a reason to buy an additional PCB other than making another one with different switches to swap boards?
I'm curious if another PCB is necessary if I don't want to have two different boards and this is my first time.
Something to consider is that this uses a custom pcb so there is no guarantee you will be able to get a replacement if something breaks on yours. Not a likely scenario but if you can afford a backup it's nice to not have to hope is someone runs a gb for pcbs later. I also find it helps flipping it in the second hand market if you ever want to unload it since it's as good as a fresh kit.
Post by: Robosculpts on Tue, 03 September 2019, 17:36:30
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 03 September 2019, 19:11:33
If using a half board, do you cutout the foam insert over the alphas?
Nope, should work fine with the foam under the alpha switches.
Post by: Robosculpts on Tue, 03 September 2019, 20:15:55
Awesome, thanks. Just ordered the FR4 full plate and extra foam.If using a half board, do you cutout the foam insert over the alphas?
Nope, should work fine with the foam under the alpha switches.
Post by: donkey on Wed, 04 September 2019, 00:36:55
Something to consider is that this uses a custom pcb so there is no guarantee you will be able to get a replacement if something breaks on yours. Not a likely scenario but if you can afford a backup it's nice to not have to hope is someone runs a gb for pcbs later. I also find it helps flipping it in the second hand market if you ever want to unload it since it's as good as a fresh kit.
Thx for the reminder. Ordered extra PCB and FR-4 half-plate.
Post by: Icte on Wed, 04 September 2019, 13:37:42
How does a half-plate (or PCB mount) affect the feel of switches (both linear and tactile, such as Gateron Inks and Zealios V2)? Some people describe it as softening the bottom-out, but what if you do not bottom out when you type?
In addition, will there not be some flex even with a full brass plate (compared to a "regular", non-gasket mounted full-plate keyboard) given that the plate and PCB are gasket mounted with soft, squishable foam layers?
Post by: jooobe on Wed, 04 September 2019, 14:07:45
I am still unsure if I should get a half-plate or a full plate. I am a bit intrigued by the 1.2mm PCB with a slit for maximum flex, but not sure how this will affect the feel of the switches as I've always used a full plate with my keyboards.No one will be able to know the exact feel, you can get full kit with half plate and additional full plate and pcb and try it, and resale them if you don't like it
How does a half-plate (or PCB mount) affect the feel of switches (both linear and tactile, such as Gateron Inks and Zealios V2)? Some people describe it as softening the bottom-out, but what if you do not bottom out when you type?
In addition, will there not be some flex even with a full brass plate (compared to a "regular", non-gasket mounted full-plate keyboard) given that the plate and PCB are gasket mounted with soft, squishable foam layers?
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Post by: Icte on Wed, 04 September 2019, 14:40:48
I am still unsure if I should get a half-plate or a full plate. I am a bit intrigued by the 1.2mm PCB with a slit for maximum flex, but not sure how this will affect the feel of the switches as I've always used a full plate with my keyboards.No one will be able to know the exact feel, you can get full kit with half plate and additional full plate and pcb and try it, and resale them if you don't like it
How does a half-plate (or PCB mount) affect the feel of switches (both linear and tactile, such as Gateron Inks and Zealios V2)? Some people describe it as softening the bottom-out, but what if you do not bottom out when you type?
In addition, will there not be some flex even with a full brass plate (compared to a "regular", non-gasket mounted full-plate keyboard) given that the plate and PCB are gasket mounted with soft, squishable foam layers?
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Actually, while waiting for response I managed to find another gasket-mounted keyboard which had a GB last year - GSKT-00.
Taeha Types has a typing video of it with lubed retooled Cherry MX Blacks on his channel (not sure if you're allowed to link here, so I'll refrain from doing so), and just by looking and listening to that video I have decided that half-plate is not for me. The difference in sound (as well as feel) between the PCB-mounted alphas and the rest of the plate-mounted keys will, for me, be bothersome I believe. So I'll be going with a full plate for this GB!
Is there any information regarding the thickness of the plate? I assume it is the standard 1.5mm?
Also, regarding plate material - am I correct in the following statements when it comes to sound:
Polycarbonate - Soft material which mutes reverb
FR4 - medium-stiff material which has slightly less reverb than brass
Brass - stiff (but softer than steel/alu?) material which has more reverb than FR4
Post by: jooobe on Wed, 04 September 2019, 14:53:41
Polaris is also multilayered with lots of foam so the results may vary between that board and this.I am still unsure if I should get a half-plate or a full plate. I am a bit intrigued by the 1.2mm PCB with a slit for maximum flex, but not sure how this will affect the feel of the switches as I've always used a full plate with my keyboards.No one will be able to know the exact feel, you can get full kit with half plate and additional full plate and pcb and try it, and resale them if you don't like it
How does a half-plate (or PCB mount) affect the feel of switches (both linear and tactile, such as Gateron Inks and Zealios V2)? Some people describe it as softening the bottom-out, but what if you do not bottom out when you type?
In addition, will there not be some flex even with a full brass plate (compared to a "regular", non-gasket mounted full-plate keyboard) given that the plate and PCB are gasket mounted with soft, squishable foam layers?
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Actually, while waiting for response I managed to find another gasket-mounted keyboard which had a GB last year - GSKT-00.
Taeha Types has a typing video of it with lubed retooled Cherry MX Blacks on his channel (not sure if you're allowed to link here, so I'll refrain from doing so), and just by looking and listening to that video I have decided that half-plate is not for me. The difference in sound (as well as feel) between the PCB-mounted alphas and the rest of the plate-mounted keys will, for me, be bothersome I believe. So I'll be going with a full plate for this GB!
Is there any information regarding the thickness of the plate? I assume it is the standard 1.5mm?
Also, regarding plate material - am I correct in the following statements when it comes to sound:
Polycarbonate - Soft material which mutes reverb
FR4 - medium-stiff material which has slightly less reverb than brass
Brass - stiff (but softer than steel/alu?) material which has more reverb than FR4
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Post by: NolaSwag on Wed, 04 September 2019, 15:05:45
Post by: jooobe on Wed, 04 September 2019, 15:06:20
Joined! All black WKL w/ full poly plate. Planning to use tealios + GMK 9009. :thumb:Gateron inks are back in stock on novelkeys also
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Post by: rockydbull on Wed, 04 September 2019, 15:08:29
I am still unsure if I should get a half-plate or a full plate. I am a bit intrigued by the 1.2mm PCB with a slit for maximum flex, but not sure how this will affect the feel of the switches as I've always used a full plate with my keyboards.No one will be able to know the exact feel, you can get full kit with half plate and additional full plate and pcb and try it, and resale them if you don't like it
How does a half-plate (or PCB mount) affect the feel of switches (both linear and tactile, such as Gateron Inks and Zealios V2)? Some people describe it as softening the bottom-out, but what if you do not bottom out when you type?
In addition, will there not be some flex even with a full brass plate (compared to a "regular", non-gasket mounted full-plate keyboard) given that the plate and PCB are gasket mounted with soft, squishable foam layers?
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Actually, while waiting for response I managed to find another gasket-mounted keyboard which had a GB last year - GSKT-00.
Taeha Types has a typing video of it with lubed retooled Cherry MX Blacks on his channel (not sure if you're allowed to link here, so I'll refrain from doing so), and just by looking and listening to that video I have decided that half-plate is not for me. The difference in sound (as well as feel) between the PCB-mounted alphas and the rest of the plate-mounted keys will, for me, be bothersome I believe. So I'll be going with a full plate for this GB!
Is there any information regarding the thickness of the plate? I assume it is the standard 1.5mm?
Also, regarding plate material - am I correct in the following statements when it comes to sound:
Polycarbonate - Soft material which mutes reverb
FR4 - medium-stiff material which has slightly less reverb than brass
Brass - stiff (but softer than steel/alu?) material which has more reverb than FR4
Brass is for sure stiffer than aluminum and IMO pretty close to steel .
Post by: donkey on Wed, 04 September 2019, 15:51:46
I went with brass full-plate and FR-4 half-plate.
Post by: valkyr1e on Thu, 05 September 2019, 10:13:39
Brass is for sure stiffer than aluminum and IMO pretty close to steel .
Brass is very different from steel, especially in sounds. Steel plate makes a very high pitched sounds where brass has rounder warmer sound.
Post by: rockydbull on Thu, 05 September 2019, 10:25:29
Brass is for sure stiffer than aluminum and IMO pretty close to steel .
Brass is very different from steel, especially in sounds. Steel plate makes a very high pitched sounds where brass has rounder warmer sound.
I was commenting on the feel of brass vs steel. The post i quoted said brass was softer and i disagree. IN my experience they are both similarly stiff.
Post by: donkey on Thu, 05 September 2019, 10:36:28
YMMV of course.
Post by: ninjacore on Thu, 05 September 2019, 11:17:09
1) ai designed this board w aluminum in mind, so I'm assuming the majority of the 7 rounds of prototyping focused on that material (and not PC)
2) the warning on the purchase page about misalignment - I am fine w scratching and the possibility of screw threads stripping, I'll just be careful. Misalignment would bug me, however.
Post by: ai03 on Thu, 05 September 2019, 11:40:30
That plate looks sick (with the gold edging)... Is it just a fun rendering, or is this going to be in production?It'll be in production for FR4 plates (gold plated switch cutouts).
Can anyone alleviate my concerns on the poly case? I don't own a PC board yet, but really like how they look in renders. I have 2 points of hesitation:
1) ai designed this board w aluminum in mind, so I'm assuming the majority of the 7 rounds of prototyping focused on that material (and not PC)
2) the warning on the purchase page about misalignment - I am fine w scratching and the possibility of screw threads stripping, I'll just be careful. Misalignment would bug me, however.
1) Yes
2) Poly is soft. I cannot estimate whether your unit will be warped heavily or not since I can't look into the future, but you will notice that the case can easily be "squeezed" when picking it up, and the weight may not sit perfectly flush to the rest of the case.
Post by: Robosculpts on Thu, 05 September 2019, 19:23:51
Post by: suparnemo on Thu, 05 September 2019, 20:01:58
Post by: goodkaws on Thu, 05 September 2019, 23:35:14
Btw, I saw earlier someone said we are allowed to post content from the discord so here is a prototype of the Polycarbonate:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546291417123782656/607858296124342282/IMG_20190805_172711.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546291417123782656/607858295197138957/IMG_20190805_172735.jpg)
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 05 September 2019, 23:47:28
Just placed my order!Woooo lad... 23 hours for me to decide if I pick up a Poly one as well xD
Btw, I saw earlier someone said we are allowed to post content from the discord so here is a prototype of the Polycarbonate:Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546291417123782656/607858296124342282/IMG_20190805_172711.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546291417123782656/607858295197138957/IMG_20190805_172735.jpg)
What are the updated sale numbers on this bad boy?
Post by: vaughno on Fri, 06 September 2019, 08:41:10
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Post by: pr0ximity on Fri, 06 September 2019, 08:49:47
Just placed my order!
Btw, I saw earlier someone said we are allowed to post content from the discord so here is a prototype of the Polycarbonate:Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546291417123782656/607858296124342282/IMG_20190805_172711.jpg)Show Image(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546291417123782656/607858295197138957/IMG_20190805_172735.jpg)
nice
I'm in for a poly/poly plate wkl myself
Post by: ai03 on Sat, 07 September 2019, 06:09:27
Due to the large number of orders, things may take time to be manufactured.
Post by: Solotov on Sat, 07 September 2019, 06:22:14
Post by: KingOfMemes on Sat, 07 September 2019, 07:42:36
Is it possible to disclose the number? :p My guess would be > 500!It was above 500 before kbdfans stopped showing it, for whatever reason
Post by: jooobe on Sat, 07 September 2019, 08:11:14
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Post by: funderburker on Sat, 07 September 2019, 08:48:39
Is it possible to disclose the number? :p My guess would be > 500!It was above 500 before kbdfans stopped showing it, for whatever reason
I think it was something to do with the ecommerce platform KBDFans uses and a plug-in or smth.
Post by: rockydbull on Wed, 11 September 2019, 08:49:22
Post by: jooobe on Wed, 11 September 2019, 14:37:24
Does the polaris have any kind of esd protection? I just fried an hhkb tofu...How the hell
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Post by: rockydbull on Wed, 11 September 2019, 18:22:40
Does the polaris have any kind of esd protection? I just fried an hhkb tofu...How the hell
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Dress clothes and ****ty office carpet? I don't know but it seems the only explanation for the board to go unresponsive suddenly. I tried to ground myself before touching it but sometimes would forget and it would catch a shock and disconnect. I guess it disconnected for one last time
Post by: phlux on Wed, 11 September 2019, 18:34:41
This has also happened to me, though it was only my old rgb board that I would bring to work. After taking a walk and sitting back at my desk, I felt a little shock when touching the board and it killed the green rgb channel.Does the polaris have any kind of esd protection? I just fried an hhkb tofu...How the hell
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Dress clothes and ****ty office carpet? I don't know but it seems the only explanation for the board to go unresponsive suddenly. I tried to ground myself before touching it but sometimes would forget and it would catch a shock and disconnect. I guess it disconnected for one last time
Post by: rockydbull on Wed, 11 September 2019, 19:30:52
Does the polaris have any kind of esd protection? I just fried an hhkb tofu...How the hell
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This has also happened to me, though it was only my old rgb board that I would bring to work. After taking a walk and sitting back at my desk, I felt a little shock when touching the board and it killed the green rgb channel.Does the polaris have any kind of esd protection? I just fried an hhkb tofu...How the hell
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Dress clothes and ****ty office carpet? I don't know but it seems the only explanation for the board to go unresponsive suddenly. I tried to ground myself before touching it but sometimes would forget and it would catch a shock and disconnect. I guess it disconnected for one last time
After disassembling on my test bench I figured I would give it a shot and plug it in one last time and try jamming the reset button. Lo and behold DFU pops up in qmk toolbox so I was able to flash the hex back on and I am typing this comment with the board. I guess the shock just cleared the memory or something. I will for sure be picking up a spare pcb just in case.
Post by: directheatedtriode on Wed, 11 September 2019, 19:55:05
Does the polaris have any kind of esd protection? I just fried an hhkb tofu...How the hell
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Dress clothes and ****ty office carpet? I don't know but it seems the only explanation for the board to go unresponsive suddenly. I tried to ground myself before touching it but sometimes would forget and it would catch a shock and disconnect. I guess it disconnected for one last time
This isn't anything unique to KBDFans, if you see other threads on customs using aluminum housings, it's happened to several people.
It's one of many reasons I ordered a backup PCB.
Post by: rockydbull on Wed, 11 September 2019, 20:21:43
Does the polaris have any kind of esd protection? I just fried an hhkb tofu...How the hell
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Dress clothes and ****ty office carpet? I don't know but it seems the only explanation for the board to go unresponsive suddenly. I tried to ground myself before touching it but sometimes would forget and it would catch a shock and disconnect. I guess it disconnected for one last time
This isn't anything unique to KBDFans, if you see other threads on customs using aluminum housings, it's happened to several people.
It's one of many reasons I ordered a backup PCB.
PCB failure also played into my decision to get a spare pcb here.
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 12 September 2019, 07:59:54
Post by: sevenseacat on Thu, 12 September 2019, 09:13:23
Post by: Knoxx on Tue, 01 October 2019, 18:16:45
Post by: KingOfMemes on Tue, 01 October 2019, 18:23:58
Looking at the ongoing ****storm which is the Fusion60 buy also run by kbdfans (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98959 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98959)), does anyone want to take bets now on whether these see the light of day around mid-2020 at the absolute earliest? :( Regretting my e-white decision at the moment.I thought standard protocol for groupbuys is to take the latest date assumed during the buy and add 4 months to that date for the realistic time it will hit your doorstep
Post by: SoloCash12 on Mon, 07 October 2019, 16:51:18
Post by: SoloCash12 on Mon, 07 October 2019, 17:34:53
Post by: alanskiii on Mon, 07 October 2019, 17:38:17
I am about to make my first purchase, but I was wondering how much is the product in total, at least roughly. (I don't mean to be a pain, just not as familiar with the transaction cost.)Polaris group buy ended my friend. Did you join it when it was live?
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Post by: heavyheaded on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:10:22
Looking at the ongoing ****storm which is the Fusion60 buy also run by kbdfans (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98959 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98959)), does anyone want to take bets now on whether these see the light of day around mid-2020 at the absolute earliest? :( Regretting my e-white decision at the moment.
That thread is not at all reflective of the kbdfans GBs I've been in (kbd19x, 5 degree, ePBT BoW, 2600 SA) which all ran fine.
Post by: beekey on Thu, 10 October 2019, 01:54:29
Same for me, all GB and other buys where fine so far. Awesome customer support too.Looking at the ongoing ****storm which is the Fusion60 buy also run by kbdfans (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98959 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98959)), does anyone want to take bets now on whether these see the light of day around mid-2020 at the absolute earliest? :( Regretting my e-white decision at the moment.
That thread is not at all reflective of the kbdfans GBs I've been in (kbd19x, 5 degree, ePBT BoW, 2600 SA) which all ran fine.
Post by: ai03 on Sat, 26 October 2019, 18:26:32
Although a bit delayed compared to the original December ETA due to the sheer number of orders, we are still on track for the adjusted shipping date of Chinese New Year (Late January 2020).
We managed to overwork ourselves with the logistics of Polaris to the point where both Kevinplus and I fell sick; we will be less responsive than usual as we recover.
Post by: mrpetrov on Sat, 26 October 2019, 18:51:13
Polaris has begun production.
Although a bit delayed compared to the original December ETA due to the sheer number of orders, we are still on track for the adjusted shipping date of Chinese New Year (Late January 2020).
We managed to overwork ourselves with the logistics of Polaris to the point where both Kevinplus and I fell sick; we will be less responsive than usual as we recover.
Rest well mate, lots of tea and chicken soup.:)
Post by: peterg on Sat, 26 October 2019, 19:28:40
Post by: jooobe on Sat, 26 October 2019, 23:12:07
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Post by: ai03 on Sun, 27 October 2019, 00:04:36
Will there be a 65% version of Polaris in the future? I would love a top tier 65% at a cheap price.
Yes, after 60 ships
Planning for in-stock rather than GB if possible
Price will likely be slightly higher due to
- Raw material cost from larger size
- Noticeable redesign, a bit more complexity in manufacturing
- Heavier weight, higher shipping cost
- Storage cost
Post by: Mekberg on Sun, 27 October 2019, 03:14:15
Also really cool to hear about the plans for the 65%. I’ve long argued there needs to be more premium in-stock products in this hobby, and not just GBs. Really hope it works out for you, and I can’t wait to get my Polaris :D
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 27 October 2019, 08:51:36
Yes, after 60 ships
Planning for in-stock rather than GB if possible
Price will likely be slightly higher due to
- Raw material cost from larger size
- Noticeable redesign, a bit more complexity in manufacturing
- Heavier weight, higher shipping cost
- Storage cost
Lovely. Hopefully cost will remain in line to be in reach of most people like the 60 was, especially as an in-stock item - very much looking forward to it.
Post by: Knoxx on Sun, 27 October 2019, 09:54:45
Yes, after 60 ships
Planning for in-stock rather than GB if possible
Price will likely be slightly higher due to
- Raw material cost from larger size
- Noticeable redesign, a bit more complexity in manufacturing
- Heavier weight, higher shipping cost
- Storage cost
Definitely interested to pick this up if it ever becomes a thing
Post by: ddnomad on Sun, 27 October 2019, 10:47:02
Will there be a 65% version of Polaris in the future? I would love a top tier 65% at a cheap price.
Yes, after 60 ships
Planning for in-stock rather than GB if possible
Price will likely be slightly higher due to
- Raw material cost from larger size
- Noticeable redesign, a bit more complexity in manufacturing
- Heavier weight, higher shipping cost
- Storage cost
Are you planning to have 60 in stock at some point? Was not able to join this GB though definitely looking forward to get my hands on Polaris :)
Post by: Robosculpts on Wed, 30 October 2019, 09:46:01
Will there be a 65% version of Polaris in the future? I would love a top tier 65% at a cheap price.
Yes, after 60 ships
Planning for in-stock rather than GB if possible
Price will likely be slightly higher due to
- Raw material cost from larger size
- Noticeable redesign, a bit more complexity in manufacturing
- Heavier weight, higher shipping cost
- Storage cost
I'll be all in on that one as well! And consider me in on a 75% if you decide to make one as well!
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 30 October 2019, 12:20:56
Given all the bull**** going on with their last custom board groupbuy (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98959) I'm having a hard time trusting kbdfans enough to buy in on this one too. Delays happen but the lack of open and honest communication about it all is pretty worrying.Which sucks, because this is up there with the Leaf60 as the most appealing (to me) group buy in a long time.Wasn't most of that drama about attempting to limit the release, but kbdfans not enforcing a limit at the start, and then all of the **** that happened after?
Far from the only drama. A lot of people still waiting, and no real indication if it will even be finished in the next 6 months: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98959.msg2814327#msg2814327
Post by: bball2 on Sun, 10 November 2019, 20:22:39
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 11 November 2019, 02:27:36
No
Post by: MacSurfy on Mon, 11 November 2019, 05:47:57
https://kbdfans.com/pages/updates-1
No
Funny how outdated the update page is actually. This will be a good one bois!
Post by: jooobe on Mon, 11 November 2019, 10:32:28
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Post by: funderburker on Mon, 11 November 2019, 11:00:58
Have faith boys
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Yes, have faith. There's literally mind-bending amount of orders so I think manufacturing time is just long. Don't quote me on this but I think Polaris is the biggest keyboard GB ever in terms of the sheer amount of boards and extras.
Also, ai and Kevinplus will definitely update everyone as soon there's anything. :thumb:
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 11 November 2019, 18:27:36
Have faith boys
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Yes, have faith. There's literally mind-bending amount of orders so I think manufacturing time is just long. Don't quote me on this but I think Polaris is the biggest keyboard GB ever in terms of the sheer amount of boards and extras.
Also, ai and Kevinplus will definitely update everyone as soon there's anything. :thumb:
I'm still looking at a lot of disappointed Fusion60 buyers waiting in the dark. Doesn't exactly inspire faith.
Post by: funderburker on Tue, 12 November 2019, 01:07:33
Have faith boys
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Yes, have faith. There's literally mind-bending amount of orders so I think manufacturing time is just long. Don't quote me on this but I think Polaris is the biggest keyboard GB ever in terms of the sheer amount of boards and extras.
Also, ai and Kevinplus will definitely update everyone as soon there's anything. :thumb:
I'm still looking at a lot of disappointed Fusion60 buyers waiting in the dark. Doesn't exactly inspire faith.
Different group buy, different GB runners.
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 20 November 2019, 02:23:39
I'm still looking at a lot of disappointed Fusion60 buyers waiting in the dark. Doesn't exactly inspire faith.
Different group buy, different GB runners.
Both facilitated by kbdfans, presumably using the same manufacturing channels.
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 20 November 2019, 13:12:05
I'm still looking at a lot of disappointed Fusion60 buyers waiting in the dark. Doesn't exactly inspire faith.
Different group buy, different GB runners.
Both facilitated by kbdfans, presumably using the same manufacturing channels.
as someone who assumes a lot, i can tell you that, if you have no direct communication with anyone involved, there's no guarantee of this being true
Post by: prototype26 on Wed, 20 November 2019, 20:52:50
I'm still looking at a lot of disappointed Fusion60 buyers waiting in the dark. Doesn't exactly inspire faith.
Different group buy, different GB runners.
Both facilitated by kbdfans, presumably using the same manufacturing channels.
nvm, fusion60 e-white had a problem so they handed it to kbd8x old manufacturer. The old manufacturer quit and kbd8x production was handed to a new one. Now the new manufacturer has production problems with kbd8x weights.
Post by: Robosculpts on Tue, 26 November 2019, 22:20:54
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 05 December 2019, 10:45:56
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 05 December 2019, 11:01:19
Sure has been quiet...Not a lot to talk about
Post by: donkey on Fri, 06 December 2019, 14:16:30
Post by: jooobe on Fri, 06 December 2019, 14:22:22
I forget when Polaris 60% was slated to be shipped. Is it end of December-ish or sometime in April?Pushed back due to higher than expected order quantity
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Post by: KingOfMemes on Fri, 06 December 2019, 14:23:26
I forget when Polaris 60% was slated to be shipped. Is it end of December-ish or sometime in April?It said by EOY when it first hit KBDFans, but we were told 2020Q1 is more realistic while the buy is still open because of the vast amount of orders
Post by: jooobe on Fri, 06 December 2019, 15:03:26
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Post by: donkey on Fri, 06 December 2019, 16:04:19
So before April then. Cool.
Post by: Popopro on Fri, 06 December 2019, 16:23:57
> It said by EOY when it first hit KBDFans, but we were told 2020Q1 is more realistic while the buy is still open because of the vast amount of orders
So before April then. Cool.
Ai already said that the new estimate that they are trying to hit is before CNY. I'm gonna stay pretty optimistic about this eta.
Post by: nathanchere on Sat, 07 December 2019, 00:07:28
Post by: Knoxx on Sat, 07 December 2019, 03:14:08
Even before the large number of orders I said the claim of delivering by December was never going to happen and we won't see anything until at least second half of 2020. The only update so far is 'counting orders' so I'd say we're still on track for Q3 2020.
It's been stated multiple times by ai03 that we are on track for CNY. They're finalising the packaging. Please don't misinform others.
Post by: nathanchere on Sat, 07 December 2019, 07:09:50
It's been stated multiple times by ai03 that we are on track for CNY. They're finalising the packaging. Please don't misinform others.
No such thing stated in this thread or the Polaris ai03 page or kbdfans updates page. Last official post from any of the 3 channels was October. If someone said someone else said something on some Discord channel, good for them.
Post by: Mekberg on Sat, 07 December 2019, 07:32:01
Post by: delrn on Sat, 07 December 2019, 08:00:19
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Post by: Create_alt_delete on Sat, 07 December 2019, 08:36:33
It's been stated multiple times by ai03 that we are on track for CNY. They're finalising the packaging. Please don't misinform others.
No such thing stated in this thread or the Polaris ai03 page or kbdfans updates page. Last official post from any of the 3 channels was October. If someone said someone else said something on some Discord channel, good for them.
He absolutely has said it in this thread...
Polaris has begun production.
Although a bit delayed compared to the original December ETA due to the sheer number of orders, we are still on track for the adjusted shipping date of Chinese New Year (Late January 2020).
We managed to overwork ourselves with the logistics of Polaris to the point where both Kevinplus and I fell sick; we will be less responsive than usual as we recover.
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Post by: Knoxx on Sat, 07 December 2019, 10:44:07
Post by: jooobe on Sat, 07 December 2019, 11:38:21
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Post by: NitPik on Mon, 09 December 2019, 12:40:17
Oh well. Can't expect everyone to read every single post on this thread.you can if they stated that "No such thing stated in this thread" and then lo and behold.. it did... why would he say it didn't say that anywhere in the thread and then just not bother to check at all? thats just being lazy
Post by: jooobe on Mon, 09 December 2019, 12:44:46
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Post by: KingOfMemes on Mon, 09 December 2019, 12:49:01
I think the claim is fair, and that you can't expect everyone to read every post. Everyone SHOULD read the posts if before making a claim that there is 'no such thing in the thread', but people are apes. If I expect everyone to read every single post in the the thread, I'm only setting myself up for disappointment.Oh well. Can't expect everyone to read every single post on this thread.you can if they stated that "No such thing stated in this thread" and then lo and behold.. it did... why would he say it didn't say that anywhere in the thread and then just not bother to check at all? thats just being lazy
Post by: jooobe on Mon, 09 December 2019, 13:25:07
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Post by: Knoxx on Tue, 10 December 2019, 04:15:51
I think the claim is fair, and that you can't expect everyone to read every post. Everyone SHOULD read the posts if before making a claim that there is 'no such thing in the thread', but people are apes. If I expect everyone to read every single post in the the thread, I'm only setting myself up for disappointment.Oh well. Can't expect everyone to read every single post on this thread.you can if they stated that "No such thing stated in this thread" and then lo and behold.. it did... why would he say it didn't say that anywhere in the thread and then just not bother to check at all? thats just being lazy
^ Essentially this. You would think it's common sense but after enough internet-ing I have learnt that common sense isn't so common.
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 11 December 2019, 00:44:01
Ai is quite active on discordShow Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191209/9d77be20de28027a1c92ce9f1410adf6.jpg)
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Perfect, thanks
Post by: ai03 on Mon, 23 December 2019, 00:04:36
Everything is still on track for CNY deadline, with a few colors of cases already finishing production. Packaging and such is under production as well.
I'll repost some of the photos from Discord when I get back to a PC.
Post by: bball2 on Mon, 23 December 2019, 02:04:12
Post by: jooobe on Mon, 23 December 2019, 04:21:52
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Post by: ai03 on Wed, 01 January 2020, 06:16:19
(https://i.imgur.com/OkmDvnM.png)
Various ano samples using actual tops sliced in half
(https://i.imgur.com/JtMHcdU.jpg)
A few units of rose gold
(https://i.imgur.com/4daW94A.png)
A group photo
Notice: The upper right white unit is not a Polaris; the blue used on the whole unit will differ from final production run (Blue grey was the hardest one to get down, requiring many samples).
(https://i.imgur.com/6DMWnS8.jpg)
Post by: MacSurfy on Wed, 01 January 2020, 06:39:26
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Post by: jooobe on Wed, 01 January 2020, 09:39:53
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Post by: ai03 on Mon, 06 January 2020, 01:48:26
https://dl.ai03.me/Polaris%20Resources/ (https://dl.ai03.me/Polaris%20Resources/)
Post by: pr0ximity on Mon, 06 January 2020, 07:22:38
Post by: NitPik on Mon, 06 January 2020, 10:28:27
When you say "parts and packaging in progress for CNY deadline" does that mean they will be packaged and shipped around then, or do the parts and packaging need to go to another place to be put together and shipped?I believe we are on track to have them shipped out to customers before cny
Post by: jooobe on Mon, 06 January 2020, 11:24:22
YesssssssWhen you say "parts and packaging in progress for CNY deadline" does that mean they will be packaged and shipped around then, or do the parts and packaging need to go to another place to be put together and shipped?I believe we are on track to have them shipped out to customers before cny
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Post by: repo156 on Tue, 07 January 2020, 02:05:21
Post by: ai03 on Thu, 16 January 2020, 03:20:32
At this time, we have good news and bad news.
Good news: The QC of the boards has progressed quickly, and some of the checked boards are already moving to packaging. The QC team led by Kevinplus worked for an entire week morning to evening to get this done; they’re the powerful people keeping Polaris moving towards shipment.
Bad news 1: The FR4 plates had the switch cutouts cut 1mm narrower than needed due to an unpredictable data misunderstanding, rendering them useless since the switches do not fit. These will need to be reproduced; however, the factory has already closed orders in preparation for the upcoming Chinese New Year, and production cannot begin until after the holiday.
Bad news 2: Although the factory has been churning out Polaris at top speed, a few things have fallen behind schedule. Some parts have been needed to be remade to meet quality requirements, and as fast as the QC team led by Kevinplus is, inspecting so many boards is taking longer than originally planned.
Bad news 3: The very tarnish-resistant clear PVD brass is showing some issues the factory just cannot get rid of, such as slightly shiny edges, a bit of discoloration, or small hook marks. They’ve tried redoing it many times, but it wasn’t solved, so we’ve had to settle for picking out the better ones out of the batch. Unfortunately this means that some of the clear PVD brass parts will not be perfect; we will upload photos later of what we had to settle on to meet the quantity requirements.
Due to the situation of the parts, and the fact that the Chinese New Year is coming up very soon, it would require a lot of rushing to do the final sorting and packing at the KBDfans warehouse for the boards which have passed QC. This could result in order mix-ups and parts placed in the wrong boxes, so for the sake of getting things out properly rather than rushing and being disappointed for the duration of the holiday, we have decided it is safer to carefully sort and double-check all boards’ contents until after CNY, then ship the ready units very soon after, followed by the delayed boards as soon as they are ready. This means all boards will be delayed until after the Chinese New Year holiday, with differing delays depending on the parts and/or QC batch.
I apologize for the inconveniences, and thank you for your understanding.
I will post any further updates as they arrive, especially for the parts which are still underway.
ai03 on behalf of myself, Kevinplus, Polaris production team
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 16 January 2020, 04:33:38
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 16 January 2020, 08:24:50
Post by: ninjacore on Thu, 16 January 2020, 08:26:20
Will an option be provided to switch to the dark-coated brass instead of the clear-coat to avoid potential quality issues?
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Thu, 16 January 2020, 09:45:27
Out of curiosity, what is the timeline of the CNY?Chinese New Years starts on January 25th but most factories close 7+ days in advance to allow people to travel back home to their parents. I presume they won't be back for around 2 weeks so mid Feb is when stuff starts moving again.
Please note that this is a very important holiday in China, sort of like how Americans treat all the winter holidays (aka nothing happens in December).
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 16 January 2020, 10:02:15
Thanks lol. Don't worry fam, I get it, and figured it would be similar. Just wanted to know the expected timeframe.Out of curiosity, what is the timeline of the CNY?Chinese New Years starts on January 25th but most factories close 7+ days in advance to allow people to travel back home to their parents. I presume they won't be back for around 2 weeks so mid Feb is when stuff starts moving again.
Please note that this is a very important holiday in China, sort of like how Americans treat all the winter holidays (aka nothing happens in December).
Post by: jooobe on Thu, 16 January 2020, 10:14:08
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Post by: Popopro on Thu, 16 January 2020, 14:19:40
Get that GMK 8008 on this bad boy
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Maybe 8008 will ship in time for this board after all
Post by: YungDaff on Mon, 03 February 2020, 07:39:18
Post by: FearsomeCubedWarrior on Mon, 03 February 2020, 07:53:02
Missed the GB on this, if someone wants to get their hand off one when they receive it. Please let me know :D
Most likely there will be some extras, once the boards get shipped.
Post by: ai03 on Sat, 08 February 2020, 07:35:39
First of all, the Wuhan Coronavirus has caused a massive shutdown of operations for just about everything; in this case, the lives of the workers are far more valuable than keyboards, so we're praying for their safety as the situation unfolds.
Second, the Guangdong province, which contains Shenzhen and other manufacturing central cities, has issued an order for all businesses to stay closed through the 9th. This means that at absolute earliest, things will start moving on the 10th.
However, the reality is that even after the closure order is lifted, many of the workers are unable to get to work due to quarantine zones and such, and the factories are facing a huge backlog amidst the labor shortage. Many factories are already declaring limited operations or closure for another extended period of time, so at this point it's difficult to gauge when things will get back to normal.
I will report back when there is more clear info on what's going on.
Post by: sevenseacat on Sat, 08 February 2020, 10:13:23
Post by: KingOfMemes on Sat, 08 February 2020, 11:55:56
Just a general update of what's going on:Can this be said for your other projects, such as the equinox?
First of all, the Wuhan Coronavirus has caused a massive shutdown of operations for just about everything; in this case, the lives of the workers are far more valuable than keyboards, so we're praying for their safety as the situation unfolds.
Second, the Guangdong province, which contains Shenzhen and other manufacturing central cities, has issued an order for all businesses to stay closed through the 9th. This means that at absolute earliest, things will start moving on the 10th.
However, the reality is that even after the closure order is lifted, many of the workers are unable to get to work due to quarantine zones and such, and the factories are facing a huge backlog amidst the labor shortage. Many factories are already declaring limited operations or closure for another extended period of time, so at this point it's difficult to gauge when things will get back to normal.
I will report back when there is more clear info on what's going on.
Post by: ai03 on Sun, 09 February 2020, 16:29:48
Can this be said for your other projects, such as the equinox?
For most projects yes, although depending on the project things will likely move at different time schedules.
Post by: LevelSteam on Tue, 11 February 2020, 21:38:07
Also stay safe over there!
Post by: Kohsta on Tue, 18 February 2020, 14:16:01
Post by: ai03 on Sat, 29 February 2020, 19:46:41
- Certain batches of brass plate: Ready to ship
- Certain batches of brass plate: Awaiting QC
- Poly plates: Finishing up production (Didn't finish before CNY, then got delayed to now)
- FR4 plates: Remanufacturing due to issues with fitment; not exactly sure what the ETA is just yet.
In addition,
- All PCBs are complete
- All gaskets, foams, and shims are complete
- All packaging and packaging foam are complete
Boards will ship out in a per-batch basis as they pass all the final checks.
Also, some of the clear PVD brass parts have a bit of uneven brightness; we tried eliminating this issue, but we could only minimize it in the end. The worst ones were filtered out during the QC process.
Finally, here is the build guide for the board; I highly recommend going through it once prior to the actual build process, for the board is very unusual in its construction. I cannot take responsibility if a board fails to assemble due to disregarding the build guide.
Build guide link (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XTUUszdKKOQ9MYd1rmtIZuMjTDDuYEq8B1IsIwqlXwU/edit?usp=sharing)
As further info comes in, I will update this thread, along with posting it to the Discord server linked in the first post.
Post by: alanskiii on Sat, 29 February 2020, 20:00:47
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Post by: ninjacore on Sat, 29 February 2020, 20:44:28
Post by: donkey on Sat, 29 February 2020, 21:29:13
Post by: ai03 on Sat, 29 February 2020, 23:06:54
Can you share the reasons behind attaching the adhesive gaskets to the plate instead of the case?
Assembly is much easier placing them on an open plate vs very deep inside a case top half obstructed on three sides.
Post by: jooobe on Sat, 29 February 2020, 23:09:13
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Post by: freespam on Sun, 01 March 2020, 20:33:17
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Post by: Jkshowman on Tue, 03 March 2020, 01:22:03
Post by: Kohsta on Tue, 03 March 2020, 05:12:28
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 03 March 2020, 06:12:53
;D RECEIVED SHIPPING NOTIFICATION ;Dpics or it didn't happen
Post by: Kohsta on Tue, 03 March 2020, 07:24:27
;D RECEIVED SHIPPING NOTIFICATION ;Dpics or it didn't happen
!!
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 03 March 2020, 07:35:24
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Tue, 03 March 2020, 08:12:22
Nice! Let the anxious anticipation begin.
Not for me! I got a FR-4 Plate, so i will probably wait about half a month at the very least.
Post by: KingOfMemes on Tue, 03 March 2020, 08:48:22
Was their an update elsewhere about some plate orders being held up?Nice! Let the anxious anticipation begin.
Not for me! I got a FR-4 Plate, so i will probably wait about half a month at the very least.
Post by: StanleyLelnats on Tue, 03 March 2020, 09:31:12
As things finally begin to move slowly following the Coronavirus outbreak, here is the latest info I have regarding where things stand:
- Certain batches of brass plate: Ready to ship
- Certain batches of brass plate: Awaiting QC
- Poly plates: Finishing up production (Didn't finish before CNY, then got delayed to now)
- FR4 plates: Remanufacturing due to issues with fitment; not exactly sure what the ETA is just yet.
In addition,
- All PCBs are complete
- All gaskets, foams, and shims are complete
- All packaging and packaging foam are complete
Boards will ship out in a per-batch basis as they pass all the final checks.
Also, some of the clear PVD brass parts have a bit of uneven brightness; we tried eliminating this issue, but we could only minimize it in the end. The worst ones were filtered out during the QC process.
Finally, here is the build guide for the board; I highly recommend going through it once prior to the actual build process, for the board is very unusual in its construction. I cannot take responsibility if a board fails to assemble due to disregarding the build guide.
Build guide link (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XTUUszdKKOQ9MYd1rmtIZuMjTDDuYEq8B1IsIwqlXwU/edit?usp=sharing)
As further info comes in, I will update this thread, along with posting it to the Discord server linked in the first post.
Was their an update elsewhere about some plate orders being held up?Nice! Let the anxious anticipation begin.
Not for me! I got a FR-4 Plate, so i will probably wait about half a month at the very least.
This is the last update I saw that mentioned the FR4 plate delay
Post by: FearsomeCubedWarrior on Tue, 03 March 2020, 09:31:42
Was their an update elsewhere about some plate orders being held up?Nice! Let the anxious anticipation begin.
Not for me! I got a FR-4 Plate, so i will probably wait about half a month at the very least.
As the ETA draws near, everyone is working at maximum effort to get Polaris to ship.
At this time, we have good news and bad news.
Good news: The QC of the boards has progressed quickly, and some of the checked boards are already moving to packaging. The QC team led by Kevinplus worked for an entire week morning to evening to get this done; they’re the powerful people keeping Polaris moving towards shipment.
Bad news 1: The FR4 plates had the switch cutouts cut 1mm narrower than needed due to an unpredictable data misunderstanding, rendering them useless since the switches do not fit. These will need to be reproduced; however, the factory has already closed orders in preparation for the upcoming Chinese New Year, and production cannot begin until after the holiday.
Bad news 2: Although the factory has been churning out Polaris at top speed, a few things have fallen behind schedule. Some parts have been needed to be remade to meet quality requirements, and as fast as the QC team led by Kevinplus is, inspecting so many boards is taking longer than originally planned.
Bad news 3: The very tarnish-resistant clear PVD brass is showing some issues the factory just cannot get rid of, such as slightly shiny edges, a bit of discoloration, or small hook marks. They’ve tried redoing it many times, but it wasn’t solved, so we’ve had to settle for picking out the better ones out of the batch. Unfortunately this means that some of the clear PVD brass parts will not be perfect; we will upload photos later of what we had to settle on to meet the quantity requirements.
Due to the situation of the parts, and the fact that the Chinese New Year is coming up very soon, it would require a lot of rushing to do the final sorting and packing at the KBDfans warehouse for the boards which have passed QC. This could result in order mix-ups and parts placed in the wrong boxes, so for the sake of getting things out properly rather than rushing and being disappointed for the duration of the holiday, we have decided it is safer to carefully sort and double-check all boards’ contents until after CNY, then ship the ready units very soon after, followed by the delayed boards as soon as they are ready. This means all boards will be delayed until after the Chinese New Year holiday, with differing delays depending on the parts and/or QC batch.
I apologize for the inconveniences, and thank you for your understanding.
I will post any further updates as they arrive, especially for the parts which are still underway.
ai03 on behalf of myself, Kevinplus, Polaris production team
Not directly, but it's been stated, that FR4 plates will be remade prior corona outbreak, so most likely FR4 orders will be delayed after production resumed as well.
Post by: ninjacore on Tue, 03 March 2020, 12:28:38
As things finally begin to move slowly following the Coronavirus outbreak, here is the latest info I have regarding where things stand:
...
- FR4 plates: Remanufacturing due to issues with fitment; not exactly sure what the ETA is just yet.
...
Post by: ai03 on Wed, 04 March 2020, 03:11:08
- Brass: Mostly complete; awaiting shipment save for a very few that need to be manufactured
- FR4: Just got the repaired data prepared, but the factory handling them is having difficulties following the CNY/break period. It will likely be a bit before it's back into (re)production; I will post an ETA for their completion when that comes in.
- Poly: The factory is slowly dealing with them with a severely reduced team of workers (many employees can't even get to work due to quarantines).
Post by: donkey on Wed, 04 March 2020, 20:32:55
But I later placed a second order for spare PCB and FR-4 half-plate.
My question is: will they be shipped separately or together, meaning partly delayed or both delayed?
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Thu, 05 March 2020, 02:58:56
I ordered full brass plated board so it's good to hear that brass plates are mostly done.
But I later placed a second order for spare PCB and FR-4 half-plate.
My question is: will they be shipped separately or together, meaning partly delayed or both delayed?
They will most likely ship together.
Post by: pchoi on Tue, 10 March 2020, 01:34:34
Post by: ai03 on Wed, 11 March 2020, 21:27:07
Brass is shipping out.
Polycarbonate plates are now en route to KBDfans. It will take at least a few days to arrive and sort through.
FR4 plates are currently being reproduced.
Poly cases will be complete in a few more days.
Post by: KingOfMemes on Thu, 12 March 2020, 08:40:18
Update on progress:
Brass is shipping out.
Polycarbonate plates are now en route to KBDfans. It will take at least a few days to arrive and sort through.
FR4 plates are currently being reproduced.
Poly cases will be complete in a few more days.
Bless up.
Post by: geewiz on Fri, 13 March 2020, 13:42:55
Post by: towelie on Sat, 14 March 2020, 11:56:15
Post by: syberghost on Sat, 14 March 2020, 16:23:37
Got mine yesterday and built it today. I'm utterly impressed with the overall quality, from the custom packaging over the build instructions to the case itself. Instant daily driver. A job well done, ai03 and KBDfans!
Don't forget Kevinplus.
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 16 March 2020, 03:54:28
Got mine yesterday and built it today. I'm utterly impressed with the overall quality, from the custom packaging over the build instructions to the case itself. Instant daily driver. A job well done, ai03 and KBDfans!Damnit, we need visuals!
Post by: geewiz on Mon, 16 March 2020, 06:30:33
Damnit, we need visuals!
Of course, sorry! Here it is (https://imgur.com/a/jOKht9s), sitting on my desk like a mini obelisk from "2001".
Post by: kekstee on Tue, 17 March 2020, 08:08:26
Starts with JCT, headed for Germany.
Post by: delrn on Tue, 17 March 2020, 08:09:41
Got a tracking number last week, but I can't figure out how to access any information. Aftership and 17track fail to detect the carrier. Any hints?Try 17track.net with JCEX as carrier.
Starts with JCT, headed for Germany.
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Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 17 March 2020, 10:14:01
Got a tracking number last week, but I can't figure out how to access any information. Aftership and 17track fail to detect the carrier. Any hints?Try 17track.net with JCEX as carrier.
Starts with JCT, headed for Germany.
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Thanks that worked for me.
Post by: syberghost on Wed, 18 March 2020, 08:59:05
Google also usually works; input a tracking number, and it'll usually narrow it down to a couple of carriers, one of which will be the one that does the delivery in your country. JCEX hands off to some other company, such as DHL, outside of China.
Post by: kekstee on Wed, 18 March 2020, 18:25:32
Post by: odd on Thu, 19 March 2020, 02:23:50
anyone with a brass plate still not get a shipping notification?
I have yet to get a shipping notification.
Post by: rockydbull on Thu, 19 March 2020, 09:28:41
anyone with a brass plate still not get a shipping notification?
I have yet to get a shipping notification.
Same, waiting on my brass half plate order.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 19 March 2020, 19:19:01
Post by: freespam on Thu, 19 March 2020, 20:28:36
anyone with a brass plate still not get a shipping notification?
I have yet to get a shipping notification.
Same here. The anticipation is killing me now that screenshots are surfacing on rmk!
Post by: Obe on Thu, 19 March 2020, 20:38:52
Post by: FearsomeCubedWarrior on Fri, 20 March 2020, 04:25:53
If anyone here wants to get rid of their PC/FR4 plates I'm glad to take them off of your hands!
They are not even made yet, AFAIK.
Post by: Icte on Fri, 20 March 2020, 15:26:35
https://kbdfans.com/blogs/news/covid-19-update
What happens with orders which have not been shipped yet? Not refunded I hope?
Post by: gridds on Fri, 20 March 2020, 16:18:39
Post by: ryou965 on Sat, 21 March 2020, 04:43:47
Post by: krautcat on Sat, 21 March 2020, 07:31:30
They are not even made yet, AFAIK.
PC plates have been made but FR4 have not.
Post by: syberghost on Sat, 21 March 2020, 22:21:02
Just saw that KBDFans has suspended all shipping to Europe:
https://kbdfans.com/blogs/news/covid-19-update
What happens with orders which have not been shipped yet? Not refunded I hope?
They'll just hold them until the situation changes and they can ship again. You can contact them if you want to make alternate arrangements. From their Discord:
Quote
Below you will find the best means of contacting KBDfans for help with your order:
1 - Facebook Direct Message (https://www.facebook.com/KBDfanskeyboard/)
2 - Email (support@kbdfans.cn)
3 - Discord DM ( KBDfans |kbdfans.com#8394, KBDfans-Bob #1955 )
4 - Discord tag (KBDfans-Bob #1955) or @Customer service
Post by: _senya on Sat, 21 March 2020, 23:13:30
Post by: freespam on Mon, 23 March 2020, 00:55:47
Post by: syberghost on Mon, 23 March 2020, 11:00:53
anyone else with brass got a shipping notification?? Crossing fingers...
A lot of brass got shipped already. I built mine, and it's brass.
edit: no idea why that's upside down lol
Post by: rockydbull on Mon, 23 March 2020, 14:49:18
anyone else with brass got a shipping notification?? Crossing fingers...
still waiting on my brass shipping notification as well.
Post by: rikercd on Mon, 23 March 2020, 21:24:27
Post by: thedavefulton on Tue, 24 March 2020, 09:24:49
Extras soon? :eek:
⬆️ What they said 🖖
Post by: BIGTUNAA on Tue, 24 March 2020, 09:59:07
I'd join ai03's discord to beupdated much faster.
Post by: sevenseacat on Tue, 24 March 2020, 11:00:15
Post by: lunr on Tue, 24 March 2020, 11:44:08
Post by: Brez1623 on Tue, 24 March 2020, 19:55:56
i'm curious on the typing experience... is there any? it looks really firm from all the foam in between the plate/pcb and the bottom of the case (probably can remove the foam but not sure how it will affect the sound).
Taeha Types streamed his build and has a typing test at the end you could check out to see how the typing experience is. The vod should still be on twitch or his youtube channel
Post by: Visionaire on Tue, 24 March 2020, 20:05:09
i'm curious on the typing experience... is there any? it looks really firm from all the foam in between the plate/pcb and the bottom of the case (probably can remove the foam but not sure how it will affect the sound).
Putting the foam in the case and between the plate and PCB definitely firms up the experience. It will give slightly, but if you want the experience to be more flexible, I would suggest leaving the foam out (although I LOVE the sound with the foam)
Post by: freespam on Wed, 25 March 2020, 00:06:50
i'm curious on the typing experience... is there any? it looks really firm from all the foam in between the plate/pcb and the bottom of the case (probably can remove the foam but not sure how it will affect the sound).
Putting the foam in the case and between the plate and PCB definitely firms up the experience. It will give slightly, but if you want the experience to be more flexible, I would suggest leaving the foam out (although I LOVE the sound with the foam)
How much does the foam change the sound?
Post by: Tekniqs on Wed, 25 March 2020, 02:24:35
How much does the foam change the sound?
watch nathan's build video. he tries it out with and without foam and without the bottom weight for some reason lol
Post by: donkey on Wed, 25 March 2020, 11:32:47
How much does the foam change the sound?
IMO plate foam reduces noise and variations. Case foam reduces reverb and volume. So I use plate foam in all of my board but case foam is not used unless I need to reduce sound or switches used doesn't sound great. For example, a case foam is used in my Tealios board but not in my Cream board.
My current plan is to go with Tealios in the full-brass plate 'gentlemen' build using both foams. I also ordered an FR-4 half-plate and spare PCB for the 'flex and clacks' build with which I'll be using Black Inks and no foams.
Post by: Novafish on Sat, 28 March 2020, 21:30:35
Post by: freespam on Sat, 28 March 2020, 22:56:51
How much does the foam change the sound?
IMO plate foam reduces noise and variations. Case foam reduces reverb and volume. So I use plate foam in all of my board but case foam is not used unless I need to reduce sound or switches used doesn't sound great. For example, a case foam is used in my Tealios board but not in my Cream board.
My current plan is to go with Tealios in the full-brass plate 'gentlemen' build using both foams. I also ordered an FR-4 half-plate and spare PCB for the 'flex and clacks' build with which I'll be using Black Inks and no foams.
That makes sense. I'm going for an ultra quiet build so I'll probably be using both pieces of foam and zilents.
Post by: freespam on Sat, 28 March 2020, 23:07:28
tfw people with poly plates get theirs before yours with a brass one :(
I ordered brass and just got my shipping notification :)...I guess they're still working through it. Hope you get yours soon.
Post by: ai03 on Mon, 30 March 2020, 04:26:50
- FR4 ETA that the factory gave is end of this month, although I am not too sure about it being met. Likely sometime in April due to the manpower shortages going on at the factories.
- Poly plates are starting to ship out along with the brass plate units.
- Poly cases are finishing up the last bits of production that didn't complete before the chaos hit.
Post by: xantiema on Mon, 30 March 2020, 04:52:30
Post by: ai03 on Mon, 30 March 2020, 04:53:25
I am a little out of the loop; is there an ETA on the european shipping ban? No stress if there isn't.
So far I haven't heard anything from KBDfans regarding an end date; will post here if I hear of it in the future.
Post by: xantiema on Mon, 30 March 2020, 04:55:08
Going by the current build VODs, the sound dampening works wonders. Regardless of when it arrives I will be looking forward to the build:thumb:
Post by: Emir on Mon, 30 March 2020, 15:00:52
Built, but a bit disappointed. I got the PC Half plate, and originally built it without foam because I dislike foaming boards. Felt and sounded great...
... Apart from the homerow and the row beneath it. It kept hitting the bottom of the case, I assume it is because the half pc plate isn't enough to support the rows.
Had to foam the bottom, it's still OK but I much prefered it without foam.
Post by: freespam on Mon, 30 March 2020, 23:40:35
Appreciate the update.
Going by the current build VODs, the sound dampening works wonders. Regardless of when it arrives I will be looking forward to the build:thumb:
My wait is over :D
I wanted a quiet daily driver for work and built mine with both foam dampeners, polycarb plate (forgot I ordered an extra plate along with brass), and silent switches. I love it!!! It sounds clean without the reverb my other boards have...by far my quietest board among many silent builds.
Post by: donkey on Tue, 31 March 2020, 12:07:30
... Apart from the homerow and the row beneath it. It kept hitting the bottom of the case, I assume it is because the half pc plate isn't enough to support the rows.
Had to foam the bottom, it's still OK but I much prefered it without foam.
Hmm. I guess my FR-4 half-plate will have similar problems. I'm going to:
1. Add a layer of paper to prevent shorting.
2. Covering the slit with duct tape with some toothpicks as support if needed.
3. If nothing works, use epoxy to fill in the slit and add support columns to make up for PCB being too thin.
UPDATE: Simplest compromise solution may be to cut up the case foam so only the part that actually touches the case will have foam under it.
Post by: Emir on Tue, 31 March 2020, 13:49:48
... Apart from the homerow and the row beneath it. It kept hitting the bottom of the case, I assume it is because the half pc plate isn't enough to support the rows.
Had to foam the bottom, it's still OK but I much prefered it without foam.
Hmm. I guess my FR-4 half-plate will have similar problems. I'm going to:
1. Add a layer of paper to prevent shorting.
2. Covering the slit with duct tape with some toothpicks as support if needed.
3. If nothing works, use epoxy to fill in the slit and add support columns to make up for PCB being too thin.
UPDATE: Simplest compromise solution may be to cut up the case foam so only the part that actually touches the case will have foam under it.
It doesn't short when it hits the bottom of the case, it's just very harsh and sounds horrible. A piece of paper won't remove that.
I didn't cover anything with duct tape, I just like to enjoy boards like they are, which is also why I didn't want to foam. :P
Regarding FR-4, it's a lot sturdier than PC, maybe you won't have the issue at all.
Post by: pr0ximity on Tue, 31 March 2020, 18:32:10
... Apart from the homerow and the row beneath it. It kept hitting the bottom of the case, I assume it is because the half pc plate isn't enough to support the rows.
Had to foam the bottom, it's still OK but I much prefered it without foam.
Hmm. I guess my FR-4 half-plate will have similar problems. I'm going to:
1. Add a layer of paper to prevent shorting.
2. Covering the slit with duct tape with some toothpicks as support if needed.
3. If nothing works, use epoxy to fill in the slit and add support columns to make up for PCB being too thin.
UPDATE: Simplest compromise solution may be to cut up the case foam so only the part that actually touches the case will have foam under it.
You can also double-sided tape foam (or anything, a thin and dense rubber mat would be nice too I bet) to the underside of the PCB, pretty common on old Korean boards.
Post by: donkey on Tue, 31 March 2020, 22:36:39
Post by: TheMnBN on Wed, 01 April 2020, 01:04:12
I built mine with a PC half plate also and don't seem to have this issue. I'd say I'm a moderately heavy typist and I bottom out quite often. Regarding the foams, I did use the mid foam but left out the bottom foam. The board is really bouncy to type on and has a lot of flex with this config. Sounds is top notch for me too. :D
Built, but a bit disappointed. I got the PC Half plate, and originally built it without foam because I dislike foaming boards. Felt and sounded great...
... Apart from the homerow and the row beneath it. It kept hitting the bottom of the case, I assume it is because the half pc plate isn't enough to support the rows.
Had to foam the bottom, it's still OK but I much prefered it without foam.
Post by: ai03 on Thu, 09 April 2020, 02:39:51
(https://i.imgur.com/UeIZzT1.png)
tl;dr: A majority of international shipping is being halted for the time being due to the global situation.
As for production progress:
- One batch of FR4 plates has been fully remanufactured; the rest of the variants are currently finishing up.
- I never received word about this, but PC cases seem to be shipping out now as well.
Post by: nasp on Thu, 09 April 2020, 14:01:59
What's the status on boards with PC plates? I suppose those are still slowly shipping as I haven't received tracking yet.
Post by: stroodl on Thu, 09 April 2020, 14:22:07
Post by: zian_ on Thu, 09 April 2020, 15:04:10
I ordered two aluminum boards with a poly full plate and haven't received any updates on it. Should I be expecting it to ship soon? I am in the US.
I wouldn't expect it anytime soon tbh.
Post by: Mcnos on Thu, 09 April 2020, 18:37:28
Post by: 01saleencobra on Thu, 09 April 2020, 22:37:04
Post by: rockydbull on Fri, 10 April 2020, 08:26:37
any available still or anyone have a case theyd like to sell? prefer white or black, thanks
try /r/mechmarket. I have seen a few pop up already
Post by: ai03 on Sat, 11 April 2020, 00:21:32
What's the status on boards with PC plates? I suppose those are still slowly shipping as I haven't received tracking yet.
I believe either all or at least a significant portion is simply awaiting packing, sorting, and shipping.
I ordered two aluminum boards with a poly full plate and haven't received any updates on it. Should I be expecting it to ship soon? I am in the US.
Similarly to the above, it is simply taking a while to sort and ship out so many boards.
Post by: AIRPOTTER on Sat, 11 April 2020, 00:28:07
What's the status on boards with PC plates? I suppose those are still slowly shipping as I haven't received tracking yet.
I believe either all or at least a significant portion is simply awaiting packing, sorting, and shipping.I ordered two aluminum boards with a poly full plate and haven't received any updates on it. Should I be expecting it to ship soon? I am in the US.
Similarly to the above, it is simply taking a while to sort and ship out so many boards.
Hell of a GB! Looks great and congrats again!
Post by: NoxNoxNox on Wed, 15 April 2020, 22:24:47
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Thu, 16 April 2020, 11:35:43
Post by: lanyusea on Thu, 16 April 2020, 23:22:06
I do love the design! especially the weights :thumb:
Post by: nasp on Fri, 17 April 2020, 00:50:58
Post by: sevenseacat on Fri, 17 April 2020, 08:54:32
Post by: missalaire on Wed, 22 April 2020, 22:52:09
Post by: neutralstate on Mon, 27 April 2020, 11:21:59
Would like to give a shout out to ai03, kbdfans and all involved in the Polaris, it is truly an awesome product at an incredible price. Thank you!
Post by: donkey on Mon, 27 April 2020, 14:55:40
I'm still waiting for mine. I think the extra FR4 half-plate in my order is preventing it from shipping.
Next time, I'm going to keep my order lean and simple. Less headache.
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 27 April 2020, 18:44:10
I just built my Polaris, and it feels and sounds so awesome.
Would like to give a shout out to ai03, kbdfans and all involved in the Polaris, it is truly an awesome product at an incredible price. Thank you!
Truly incredible, not sure how they did it but it is very high valued board. Hope for more!
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Mon, 27 April 2020, 20:23:55
Post by: Solotov on Mon, 27 April 2020, 21:11:56
Still waiting on Polaris :-[
Same for me :-[
Does it ship according to who order number?
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Mon, 27 April 2020, 22:16:53
Originally assumed it was by config, but someone on Discord already received (and have had) the exact combination I ordered (rose gold, clear pvd, poly full plate, wkl), so that threw that theory out the window.Still waiting on Polaris :-[
Same for me :-[
Does it ship according to who order number?
Post by: nasp on Tue, 28 April 2020, 00:10:11
Originally assumed it was by config, but someone on Discord already received (and have had) the exact combination I ordered (rose gold, clear pvd, poly full plate, wkl), so that threw that theory out the window.Still waiting on Polaris :-[
Same for me :-[
Does it ship according to who order number?
Since I ordered on day 1 and still don't have mine or a shipping notification, I doubt it's by order number. I also bought expedited shipping though DHL. They are probably being sent out randomly.
Post by: kekstee on Tue, 28 April 2020, 17:35:54
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/PDcG7PQ.jpg)
Built, but a bit disappointed. I got the PC Half plate, and originally built it without foam because I dislike foaming boards. Felt and sounded great...
... Apart from the homerow and the row beneath it. It kept hitting the bottom of the case, I assume it is because the half pc plate isn't enough to support the rows.
Had to foam the bottom, it's still OK but I much prefered it without foam.
Same experience for me. I want to see if I can source some thin rubber mat stuff or might end up rebuilding it with the pc full plate.
//e2 I've been testing it with foam on and off again, and while it's rather easy to bottom out it just doesn't happen in regular use for me. So I guess I can live with the most flexy option in the end.
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//e purple turned out amazing btw <3
Post by: KFOXE on Wed, 29 April 2020, 00:45:38
Post by: donkey on Wed, 29 April 2020, 11:49:01
- One batch of FR4 plates has been fully remanufactured; the rest of the variants are currently finishing up.
It's already end of April. When you get a chance, another status update would be appreciated. I'm particularly keen on hearing that FR4 plates are all done.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Wed, 29 April 2020, 14:25:05
Post by: donkey on Wed, 29 April 2020, 15:59:07
Got my shipping notification for FR4 today, so the wait must not be long for the unlucky last ones.
That's great to hear. :-)
Post by: koenoe on Thu, 30 April 2020, 00:38:43
Originally assumed it was by config, but someone on Discord already received (and have had) the exact combination I ordered (rose gold, clear pvd, poly full plate, wkl), so that threw that theory out the window.Still waiting on Polaris :-[
Same for me :-[
Does it ship according to who order number?
Since I ordered on day 1 and still don't have mine or a shipping notification, I doubt it's by order number. I also bought expedited shipping though DHL. They are probably being sent out randomly.
Yeah same here. I don’t think KBD is handling it very well, lol.
Post by: Solotov on Thu, 30 April 2020, 01:45:40
Post by: chaosen on Thu, 30 April 2020, 09:29:52
Post by: zian_ on Fri, 01 May 2020, 15:00:32
Originally assumed it was by config, but someone on Discord already received (and have had) the exact combination I ordered (rose gold, clear pvd, poly full plate, wkl), so that threw that theory out the window.Still waiting on Polaris :-[
Same for me :-[
Does it ship according to who order number?
Since I ordered on day 1 and still don't have mine or a shipping notification, I doubt it's by order number. I also bought expedited shipping though DHL. They are probably being sent out randomly.
Yeah same here. I don’t think KBD is handling it very well, lol.
Yeah me either. Their responses seem inconsistent as well. Probably won't join another GB through KBD again.
Post by: Fredington on Fri, 01 May 2020, 15:19:15
Originally assumed it was by config, but someone on Discord already received (and have had) the exact combination I ordered (rose gold, clear pvd, poly full plate, wkl), so that threw that theory out the window.Still waiting on Polaris :-[
Same for me :-[
Does it ship according to who order number?
Since I ordered on day 1 and still don't have mine or a shipping notification, I doubt it's by order number. I also bought expedited shipping though DHL. They are probably being sent out randomly.
Yeah same here. I don’t think KBD is handling it very well, lol.
Yeah me either. Their responses seem inconsistent as well. Probably won't join another GB through KBD again.
There were delays based on the materials you ordered. Brass parts were finished first, so if your order didn't include PC or FR4 it was shipped first. PC parts finished next and FR4 parts just finished since they had to be remade. If your order included FR4 parts, yours is part of the last batch to be shipped. Plus, they had over 700 orders for this board and you know, global pandemic.
Post by: koenoe on Fri, 01 May 2020, 17:51:37
Originally assumed it was by config, but someone on Discord already received (and have had) the exact combination I ordered (rose gold, clear pvd, poly full plate, wkl), so that threw that theory out the window.Still waiting on Polaris :-[
Same for me :-[
Does it ship according to who order number?
Since I ordered on day 1 and still don't have mine or a shipping notification, I doubt it's by order number. I also bought expedited shipping though DHL. They are probably being sent out randomly.
Yeah same here. I don’t think KBD is handling it very well, lol.
Yeah me either. Their responses seem inconsistent as well. Probably won't join another GB through KBD again.
There were delays based on the materials you ordered. Brass parts were finished first, so if your order didn't include PC or FR4 it was shipped first. PC parts finished next and FR4 parts just finished since they had to be remade. If your order included FR4 parts, yours is part of the last batch to be shipped. Plus, they had over 700 orders for this board and you know, global pandemic.
This doesn’t seem to be true (apart from the pandemic, lol). I’ve ordered two boards on day one with all brass parts and still waiting.
I’ve had inconsistent updates from KBD too about my order. Latest one was that they don’t have grey anymore and waiting for that.
Post by: Solotov on Fri, 01 May 2020, 22:33:09
Post by: zian_ on Sat, 02 May 2020, 11:25:44
Originally assumed it was by config, but someone on Discord already received (and have had) the exact combination I ordered (rose gold, clear pvd, poly full plate, wkl), so that threw that theory out the window.Still waiting on Polaris :-[
Same for me :-[
Does it ship according to who order number?
Since I ordered on day 1 and still don't have mine or a shipping notification, I doubt it's by order number. I also bought expedited shipping though DHL. They are probably being sent out randomly.
Yeah same here. I don’t think KBD is handling it very well, lol.
Yeah me either. Their responses seem inconsistent as well. Probably won't join another GB through KBD again.
There were delays based on the materials you ordered. Brass parts were finished first, so if your order didn't include PC or FR4 it was shipped first. PC parts finished next and FR4 parts just finished since they had to be remade. If your order included FR4 parts, yours is part of the last batch to be shipped. Plus, they had over 700 orders for this board and you know, global pandemic.
This isn’t true. My order is brass and hasn’t shipped.
Post by: FearsomeCubedWarrior on Sat, 02 May 2020, 13:08:55
Post by: zian_ on Sat, 02 May 2020, 19:24:57
LOL, I've been offered refund as "no carrier is shipping to your country". And I've got 5 or 6 parcels from Aliexpress in past month. Looks like someone's got a huge backlog and doesn't have enough boards to fulfill.
Yeah, it’s looking more like KBDFans botched this.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 02 May 2020, 21:04:34
LOL, I've been offered refund as "no carrier is shipping to your country". And I've got 5 or 6 parcels from Aliexpress in past month. Looks like someone's got a huge backlog and doesn't have enough boards to fulfill.
Yeah, it’s looking more like KBDFans botched this.
hmm almost like a pandemic happened in the middle of this GB
Post by: Vigrith on Sat, 02 May 2020, 23:21:33
LOL, I've been offered refund as "no carrier is shipping to your country". And I've got 5 or 6 parcels from Aliexpress in past month. Looks like someone's got a huge backlog and doesn't have enough boards to fulfill.
Yeah, it’s looking more like KBDFans botched this.
lol
Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 03 May 2020, 15:11:33
LOL, I've been offered refund as "no carrier is shipping to your country". And I've got 5 or 6 parcels from Aliexpress in past month. Looks like someone's got a huge backlog and doesn't have enough boards to fulfill.
Yeah, it’s looking more like KBDFans botched this.
hmm almost like a pandemic happened in the middle of this GB
Must be a real tough time to get into one's first group buy -- imagine having clear reasons why delays happen
Post by: nathanchere on Sun, 03 May 2020, 16:10:42
Yeah, it’s looking more like KBDFans botched this.
hmm almost like a pandemic happened in the middle of this GB
The last GB I entered run by kbdfans (Fusion60) was a ****show as well and it ended with a lot of refunds. i only got mine buy buying another from someone who actually received theirs. My GB slot was never fulfilled. No pandemic excuse back then. I had my doubts about entering this for the same reason but was assured different GB runner, different factory etc. No doubt I appreciate ai03's work and efforts. Still seeing piss-poor involvement on kbdfans' part though.
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 03 May 2020, 17:17:51
The last GB I entered run by kbdfans (Fusion60) was a ****show as well and it ended with a lot of refunds. i only got mine buy buying another from someone who actually received theirs. My GB slot was never fulfilled. No pandemic excuse back then. I had my doubts about entering this for the same reason but was assured different GB runner, different factory etc. Still seen piss-poor involvement on kbdfans part though.
You got your money back and bought another slot. **** happens. Move on. Your bad experience with a certain vendor, who in this case happens to be extremely reputable and widely well liked, does not outright prevent them from being set back by ulterior motives or forces in the future. Furthermore, the second bit of your post makes it seem as though you were basically coerced into joining this group buy when I highly doubt that is truthful (and if it is, read the caveat emptor and/or find a new hobby); disingenuous at best, very distasteful take.
Post by: zekth on Sun, 03 May 2020, 17:30:58
Originally assumed it was by config, but someone on Discord already received (and have had) the exact combination I ordered (rose gold, clear pvd, poly full plate, wkl), so that threw that theory out the window.Still waiting on Polaris :-[
Same for me :-[
Does it ship according to who order number?
Since I ordered on day 1 and still don't have mine or a shipping notification, I doubt it's by order number. I also bought expedited shipping though DHL. They are probably being sent out randomly.
Yeah same here. I don’t think KBD is handling it very well, lol.
Yeah me either. Their responses seem inconsistent as well. Probably won't join another GB through KBD again.
There were delays based on the materials you ordered. Brass parts were finished first, so if your order didn't include PC or FR4 it was shipped first. PC parts finished next and FR4 parts just finished since they had to be remade. If your order included FR4 parts, yours is part of the last batch to be shipped. Plus, they had over 700 orders for this board and you know, global pandemic.
This doesn’t seem to be true (apart from the pandemic, lol). I’ve ordered two boards on day one with all brass parts and still waiting.
I’ve had inconsistent updates from KBD too about my order. Latest one was that they don’t have grey anymore and waiting for that.
Still waiting on mine, Brass and Space Grey
Post by: Knoxx on Sun, 03 May 2020, 23:22:55
Yeah, it’s looking more like KBDFans botched this.
hmm almost like a pandemic happened in the middle of this GB
The last GB I entered run by kbdfans (Fusion60) was a ****show as well and it ended with a lot of refunds. i only got mine buy buying another from someone who actually received theirs. My GB slot was never fulfilled. No pandemic excuse back then. I had my doubts about entering this for the same reason but was assured different GB runner, different factory etc. Still seen piss-poor involvement on kbdfans part though.
You entered the GB of your own accord and knew the risks. In this thread itself you've shown to not read the updates and thus make ungrounded assumptions on what is happening behind the scenes. I'm taking your word with a grain of salt.
Post by: beekey on Mon, 04 May 2020, 04:40:25
So far I have good experience with KBDFans and their support. I just got the Polaris shipping notification today. Maybe we need to be a bit more patient and give them a chance. Having said this, I still think they could be better in communication, especially with many people being uncertain during this outbreak.LOL, I've been offered refund as "no carrier is shipping to your country". And I've got 5 or 6 parcels from Aliexpress in past month. Looks like someone's got a huge backlog and doesn't have enough boards to fulfill.
Yeah, it’s looking more like KBDFans botched this.
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 04 May 2020, 05:16:30
You entered the GB of your own accord and knew the risks. In this thread itself you've shown to not read the updates and thus make ungrounded assumptions on what is happening behind the scenes. I'm taking your word with a grain of salt.I read updates. I just don't expect to have to join Discord channels to get updates when there is also an official GB thread here and kbdfan's own site for updates.
My 'ungrounded assumption' back when they were still saying shipping December 2019 was I'll be happy if it actually arrives by Q3 2020. I still stand by that.
Post by: xantiema on Mon, 04 May 2020, 05:57:06
Post by: MacSurfy on Mon, 04 May 2020, 10:29:49
Post by: Knoxx on Mon, 04 May 2020, 22:30:29
You entered the GB of your own accord and knew the risks. In this thread itself you've shown to not read the updates and thus make ungrounded assumptions on what is happening behind the scenes. I'm taking your word with a grain of salt.I read updates. I just don't expect to have to join Discord channels to get updates when there is also an official GB thread here and kbdfan's own site for updates.
My 'ungrounded assumption' back when they were still saying shipping December 2019 was I'll be happy if it actually arrives by Q3 2020. I still stand by that.
It was in the thread itself and this was pointed out to you. You chose to ignore that and insist that you shouldn't have to go to discord to read updates when there already were in the thread. There is clearly no point talking to you.
Post by: koenoe on Tue, 05 May 2020, 03:41:08
It has been mentioned before that they are only shippping 50kgs worth of packages out per day. This includes other orders than just the Polaris GB (+1000 orders). You waited all this time, I think you guys can wait a little bit longer, it will come. Just be patient.
I think you're missing the point a bit. I think most of us don't mind waiting, but do mind the inconsistent updates/excuses and offered refunds.
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Tue, 05 May 2020, 11:49:39
What really makes my day is checking GH and seeing there's an update on the Polaris thread only to have it be a complaint about the lack of update :'(
Post by: spoopycheezy on Tue, 05 May 2020, 13:50:10
Post by: loud_asian on Tue, 05 May 2020, 22:51:58
id love a polaris. to me thats end game. after all that waiting i wouldn't sell it. pains me to see people receive them and flip it soon after.
bro people need money right now
there's like 30 million people in the US unemployed
Post by: lanyusea on Wed, 06 May 2020, 01:06:18
I thought it should be press Space+B then power on, but it only works once before I flushing the QMK default polaris firmware.
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 06 May 2020, 07:52:04
anyone know how to get into the bootloader mode without pressing the reset key? ( I assembled it already)
I thought it should be press Space+B then power on, but it only works once before I flushing the QMK default polaris firmware.
Hold Esc while plugging the board in.
Post by: lanyusea on Wed, 06 May 2020, 08:38:40
anyone know how to get into the bootloader mode without pressing the reset key? ( I assembled it already)
I thought it should be press Space+B then power on, but it only works once before I flushing the QMK default polaris firmware.
Hold Esc while plugging the board in.
thanks!
how could I check this kind of configs in QMK code?
Post by: spoopycheezy on Wed, 06 May 2020, 13:04:50
id love a polaris. to me thats end game. after all that waiting i wouldn't sell it. pains me to see people receive them and flip it soon after.
bro people need money right now
there's like 30 million people in the US unemployed
so take money from other people? i mean i get what you're saying but imo thats financial irresponsibility if you're buying keebs you cant afford just for the quick flip. either way im waiting for it to be in-stock and/or b-stock sale.
Post by: Vadurr on Wed, 06 May 2020, 13:23:59
id love a polaris. to me thats end game. after all that waiting i wouldn't sell it. pains me to see people receive them and flip it soon after.
bro people need money right now
there's like 30 million people in the US unemployed
so take money from other people? i mean i get what you're saying but imo thats financial irresponsibility if you're buying keebs you cant afford just for the quick flip. either way im waiting for it to be in-stock and/or b-stock sale.
Or people bought it with the intention to fully enjoy the keyboard until they got laid off from their jobs. Now they're scrambling around trying to make ends meet with no source of income? I dont know though, *shrugs*
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Wed, 06 May 2020, 15:17:20
id love a polaris. to me thats end game. after all that waiting i wouldn't sell it. pains me to see people receive them and flip it soon after.
bro people need money right now
there's like 30 million people in the US unemployed
so take money from other people? i mean i get what you're saying but imo thats financial irresponsibility if you're buying keebs you cant afford just for the quick flip. either way im waiting for it to be in-stock and/or b-stock sale.
How else do you get money?
There was a long group buy window to enter here. I share the animosity towards raffle and FCFS flippers; however, selling an item from an open group buy shouldn't be synonymous with flipping.
Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 06 May 2020, 15:44:00
Post by: Vadurr on Wed, 06 May 2020, 15:49:28
Post by: konstantin on Wed, 06 May 2020, 15:51:05
anyone know how to get into the bootloader mode without pressing the reset key? ( I assembled it already)
I thought it should be press Space+B then power on, but it only works once before I flushing the QMK default polaris firmware.
Hold Esc while plugging the board in.
thanks!
how could I check this kind of configs in QMK code?
Check the keyboard or keymap's rules.mk file.
If you see BOOTMAGIC_ENABLE = yes or BOOTMAGIC_ENABLE = full, you can reset by holding Space+B while plugging in.
If you see BOOTMAGIC_ENABLE = lite, you can reset by holding (usually) Esc while plugging in.
If you see COMMAND_ENABLE = yes, you can reset by pressing LShift+RShift+B or LShift+RShift+Esc at any time while the keyboard is plugged in.
Post by: odd on Thu, 07 May 2020, 05:30:41
Originally assumed it was by config, but someone on Discord already received (and have had) the exact combination I ordered (rose gold, clear pvd, poly full plate, wkl), so that threw that theory out the window.Still waiting on Polaris :-[
Same for me :-[
Does it ship according to who order number?
Since I ordered on day 1 and still don't have mine or a shipping notification, I doubt it's by order number. I also bought expedited shipping though DHL. They are probably being sent out randomly.
same
Post by: Robosculpts on Thu, 07 May 2020, 07:13:27
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 07 May 2020, 21:10:01
(https://i.imgur.com/l3p2rTg.png)
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 07 May 2020, 21:33:30
Board feels really nice on first inspection, but man, I wanted yellow, not pumpkin spiceShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/l3p2rTg.png)
this man pm'd me about this as if i have any say about it lmao
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 07 May 2020, 21:42:18
Board feels really nice on first inspection, but man, I wanted yellow, not pumpkin spiceShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/l3p2rTg.png)
this man pm'd me about this as if i have any say about it lmao
I thought you ran this place?
Post by: pr0ximity on Thu, 07 May 2020, 21:56:46
Board feels really nice on first inspection, but man, I wanted yellow, not pumpkin spiceShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/l3p2rTg.png)
this man pm'd me about this as if i have any say about it lmao
I, for one, demand answers
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 07 May 2020, 22:00:48
Board feels really nice on first inspection, but man, I wanted yellow, not pumpkin spiceShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/l3p2rTg.png)
this man pm'd me about this as if i have any say about it lmao
I, for one, demand answers
it's orange
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Thu, 07 May 2020, 22:03:52
Post by: PoohGom on Fri, 08 May 2020, 00:37:38
Board feels really nice on first inspection, but man, I wanted yellow, not pumpkin spiceShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/l3p2rTg.png)
No..... I ordered a yellow case too... have you contacted KBDfans about this?
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 08 May 2020, 01:41:20
Board feels really nice on first inspection, but man, I wanted yellow, not pumpkin spiceShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/l3p2rTg.png)
No..... I ordered a yellow case too... have you contacted KBDfans about this?
That's just how it be my dude. I don't think you're gonna get any remake/refund, but people are buying it above GB price so if you really can't live with it you can make a few bucks I guess.
Post by: funderburker on Fri, 08 May 2020, 02:38:46
Board feels really nice on first inspection, but man, I wanted yellow, not pumpkin spiceShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/l3p2rTg.png)
No..... I ordered a yellow case too... have you contacted KBDfans about this?
That's just how it be my dude. I don't think you're gonna get any remake/refund, but people are buying it above GB price so if you really can't live with it you can make a few bucks I guess.
Mmm, that's orange for sure but still looks :fire:
Post by: A.Belousov on Fri, 08 May 2020, 04:07:40
What's the status on boards with PC plates? I suppose those are still slowly shipping as I haven't received tracking yet.
I believe either all or at least a significant portion is simply awaiting packing, sorting, and shipping.I ordered two aluminum boards with a poly full plate and haven't received any updates on it. Should I be expecting it to ship soon? I am in the US.
Similarly to the above, it is simply taking a while to sort and ship out so many boards.
Good sir, please give us more Polaris keyboards soon, so many people want them, but cant buy, only hope for R2
Post by: nathanchere on Fri, 08 May 2020, 04:42:18
It was in the thread itself and this was pointed out to you. You chose to ignore that and insist that you shouldn't have to go to discord to read updates when there already were in the thread. There is clearly no point talking to you.
What "it" are you carrying on about? Some random saying "I heard x on discord" is not an official update, it's hearsay at best. Other than for that, there's no point where someone with any authority gave an update that I ignored, by choice or otherwise. If you want to be a ****head about it though, yeah, there's clearly no point talking to me.
Post by: peterg on Fri, 08 May 2020, 07:32:57
Post by: syberghost on Fri, 08 May 2020, 08:01:47
ai03 posted in this thread that a 65% Polaris is planned after this GB, but with the current situation it might have to wait until people get their jobs back :(
It's called Vega, and it's pretty far along in the design process, so hopefully he can go to an IC soon.
Board feels really nice on first inspection, but man, I wanted yellow, not pumpkin spiceShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/l3p2rTg.png)
Keep in mind that the first proto picture was taken by the manufacturer using a cellphone camera, and didn't accurately show the colors of that proto. Polaris ended up going through multiple manufacturers (one couldn't maintain quality, the second choice decided to stop being a keyboard manufacturer in the middle of multiple projects), and the final color was the third manufacturer's attempt to match the physical prototype, not the bad picture.
I realize this is cold comfort to people who bought caps based on the picture, but even if you had that actual prototype in your hands, they wouldn't have matched, and there was nothing the GB runners could have done about that.
Post by: Knoxx on Fri, 08 May 2020, 08:09:08
It was in the thread itself and this was pointed out to you. You chose to ignore that and insist that you shouldn't have to go to discord to read updates when there already were in the thread. There is clearly no point talking to you.
What "it" are you carrying on about? Some random saying "I heard x on discord" is not an official update, it's hearsay at best. Other than for that, there's no point where someone with any authority gave an update that I ignored, by choice or otherwise. If you want to be a ****head about it though, yeah, there's clearly no point talking to me.
You are very clearly blind. ai03 himself posted in this thread updates and someone brought this up to you. You wouldn't know because you didn't read it. There's no point talking to you because you close your eyes to everything brought to your attention as long as it doesn't fit what you think is true.
Please refer to page 7 to see how much of an idiot you are.
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Fri, 08 May 2020, 10:39:18
Post by: syberghost on Fri, 08 May 2020, 10:48:45
The point of the proto photo is to give you a reasonable expectation. It looks like a solid shade of orange but it's clearly not yellow; it might as well be green.
Absolutely; but the GB runners didn't take that photo. At that point they were in the same boat as everybody else, the photo was taken by a manufacturer, GB runners didn't have the proto in their hands. It's not a good idea to make colorway decisions that early in the process; even if NOTHING had changed, and that manufacturer had ended up making all the boards exactly the same color as that proto, it wouldn't have matched that photo.
The eventual manufacturer was matching the proto, not the bad photo.
Post by: PoohGom on Fri, 08 May 2020, 12:06:36
Board feels really nice on first inspection, but man, I wanted yellow, not pumpkin spiceShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/l3p2rTg.png)
No..... I ordered a yellow case too... have you contacted KBDfans about this?
That's just how it be my dude. I don't think you're gonna get any remake/refund, but people are buying it above GB price so if you really can't live with it you can make a few bucks I guess.
It's okay... I have no intention on selling my order or any of my other keyboards. If I do receive an orange case, I will just have to buy a new keyset to match it ^^
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Sun, 10 May 2020, 11:06:58
Post by: donkey on Sun, 10 May 2020, 17:38:02
FYI: My order includes previously delayed FR-4 half-plate so I think the only thing standing in the way for everyone is the shipping queue.
I'll post again when it actually arrives. Cheers!
Post by: Create_alt_delete on Sun, 10 May 2020, 23:37:17
Board feels really nice on first inspection, but man, I wanted yellow, not pumpkin spiceThere go my plans for matching mine with Serika...Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/l3p2rTg.png)
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Post by: bthezebra on Mon, 11 May 2020, 14:29:00
Post by: stroodl on Mon, 11 May 2020, 15:06:09
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Mon, 11 May 2020, 16:36:49
Man the E-Yellow situation is sooo frustrating. If they knew it was going to be that much variance from what was presented, why not at least offer people a different option? I think it was bad business to send them out like this and makes me want to avoid any future KBDFans GBs, no matter the price deal. I was willing to accept imperfect finish (scuffs/lines/etc.) but come on, to whom does that color appear to be yellow???
I wouldn't sweat it too much until you have yours in your hands and can see for yourself; I'd definitely be interested in a photo if you do have an e-yellow.
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Mon, 11 May 2020, 16:39:06
For your board to be able to be delivered in the US did you have to send KBDFANS $20 for shipping or is there an invoice of some sort?
I used EMS b/c it was originally free shipping; however, due to shipping issues, I changed my address and opted for DHL. KBD support said they would invoice me for shipping. I haven't been invoiced yet so I'm guessing my order isn't ready. I'm waiting on a Polaris and Simple JA.
Post by: missalaire on Mon, 11 May 2020, 19:40:26
Post by: InediblePi on Mon, 11 May 2020, 20:59:42
Post by: bthezebra on Tue, 12 May 2020, 01:03:55
In my hands...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200512/4cdae73e6201b2726aa361239a90893b.jpg)Man the E-Yellow situation is sooo frustrating. If they knew it was going to be that much variance from what was presented, why not at least offer people a different option? I think it was bad business to send them out like this and makes me want to avoid any future KBDFans GBs, no matter the price deal. I was willing to accept imperfect finish (scuffs/lines/etc.) but come on, to whom does that color appear to be yellow???
I wouldn't sweat it too much until you have yours in your hands and can see for yourself; I'd definitely be interested in a photo if you do have an e-yellow.
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Tue, 12 May 2020, 10:29:34
In my hands...Man the E-Yellow situation is sooo frustrating. If they knew it was going to be that much variance from what was presented, why not at least offer people a different option? I think it was bad business to send them out like this and makes me want to avoid any future KBDFans GBs, no matter the price deal. I was willing to accept imperfect finish (scuffs/lines/etc.) but come on, to whom does that color appear to be yellow???
I wouldn't sweat it too much until you have yours in your hands and can see for yourself; I'd definitely be interested in a photo if you do have an e-yellow.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200512/4cdae73e6201b2726aa361239a90893b.jpg)
:-\
Post by: 1391401 on Tue, 12 May 2020, 12:16:58
Post by: bthezebra on Tue, 12 May 2020, 12:32:32
LOL! It's school bus yellow instead of that light yellow they showed in the IC pictures. I wonder how the mixup like that happens (entirely different color here, not a minor nitpick by pedantic keyboardists). Still waiting for mine to come - on the plus side I already have a matching keyset for that color and was gonna have to find something for the original yellowExactly! Like what color blind person was assigned to this project? At minimum have the proto nearby to compare.
Also, to all "E-Yellow" buyers, I reached out to KBDfans to exchange if they had something more similar to what was presented. Here is the response:
"This color is correct ,have no issues.all other sets are same
If you can not accept it ,Pls return back to the Chinese address ,Thanks "
So ALL of the E Yellow will look the same, if you haven't gotten a shipping email and do not want this color then I suggest you reach out to say do not send and please refund. Otherwise you will have to bite the bullet and pay for shipping back to China during this crisis.
Post by: vi0till on Tue, 12 May 2020, 13:00:41
Believe the color reference is Tofu E-yellow, which based on the picture, similar to what Polaris color is. Since I do not own Tofu E-yellow, maybe anyone can confirm this.LOL! It's school bus yellow instead of that light yellow they showed in the IC pictures. I wonder how the mixup like that happens (entirely different color here, not a minor nitpick by pedantic keyboardists). Still waiting for mine to come - on the plus side I already have a matching keyset for that color and was gonna have to find something for the original yellowExactly! Like what color blind person was assigned to this project? At minimum have the proto nearby to compare.
Also, to all "E-Yellow" buyers, I reached out to KBDfans to exchange if they had something more similar to what was presented. Here is the response:
"This color is correct ,have no issues.all other sets are same
If you can not accept it ,Pls return back to the Chinese address ,Thanks "
So ALL of the E Yellow will look the same, if you haven't gotten a shipping email and do not want this color then I suggest you reach out to say do not send and please refund. Otherwise you will have to bite the bullet and pay for shipping back to China during this crisis.
Quite sad with the e-yellow color, maybe I will just pair with Kaiju, altho the color might be a bit off.
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Post by: rath_k on Tue, 12 May 2020, 17:35:44
LOL! It's school bus yellow instead of that light yellow they showed in the IC pictures. I wonder how the mixup like that happens (entirely different color here, not a minor nitpick by pedantic keyboardists). Still waiting for mine to come - on the plus side I already have a matching keyset for that color and was gonna have to find something for the original yellowExactly! Like what color blind person was assigned to this project? At minimum have the proto nearby to compare.
Also, to all "E-Yellow" buyers, I reached out to KBDfans to exchange if they had something more similar to what was presented. Here is the response:
"This color is correct ,have no issues.all other sets are same
If you can not accept it ,Pls return back to the Chinese address ,Thanks "
So ALL of the E Yellow will look the same, if you haven't gotten a shipping email and do not want this color then I suggest you reach out to say do not send and please refund. Otherwise you will have to bite the bullet and pay for shipping back to China during this crisis.
Honestly you might as well just receive the board and try to trade it for a color that you like.
If you aren't interested in trading then you can just sell it on the aftermarket. The demand is pretty high for polaris on the aftermarket right now, I'm sure you wouldn't have a problem finding a buyer that pays GB price plus shipping.
Edit: I would buy yellow polaris if you arent interested
Post by: nu_types on Tue, 12 May 2020, 18:09:55
Post by: Bits on Tue, 12 May 2020, 23:00:16
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Post by: manzel on Wed, 13 May 2020, 02:37:12
Post by: donkey on Wed, 13 May 2020, 08:40:01
Post by: sevenseacat on Wed, 13 May 2020, 09:38:11
Post by: Brez1623 on Wed, 13 May 2020, 09:43:03
Post by: 1391401 on Wed, 13 May 2020, 10:08:58
Why are you guys surprised about the yellow? Basically, all e-yellow boards (e.g. E7-V1, M65-B, KN2.10², Tofu) look like that. And iirc, it also matches the color, which was displayed on the KBDFans store page, pretty well.Surely it's not that hard to understand how this was confusing? If you look on their IC page [1] the yellow everyone in this thread was expecting is shown there a few times. If you want to be a keyboard pedant there's actually two different yellow shown in that first post so you can argue that even during IC the color was vague. However neither of these colors shown during IC were the school bus yellow that it looks like people are getting [2]. Some people may have bought the yellow and natural brass color (as shown in the IC) and imagine how bad that will look as natural brass + school bus yellow...
[1] https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=100383.msg2753368#msg2753368
[2] https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101904.msg2903067#msg2903067
Post by: finalarcadia on Wed, 13 May 2020, 13:10:08
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Post by: xantiema on Wed, 13 May 2020, 14:25:59
Post by: rockydbull on Wed, 13 May 2020, 14:37:25
AFAIK, Tofu E-Yellow does not look like that.
https://kbdfans.com/products/tofu-aluminum-case-e-yellow
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/c02syn/tofu60/
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/g9hp66/mt3_serika_on_eyellow_tofu_68/
IMO looks similar to how the polaris turned out. Color seems to be highly dependent on lighting. The more I look at really orange pictures I see orange and then switch to a yellow one and they all look yellow.
Post by: ninjacore on Wed, 13 May 2020, 15:06:40
Even an E-Orange will flip for more than what you paid for it. There is literally no reason to ship it back to KBD if you are unsatisfied - that just seems irrational.
I don't know that the buyer was suggesting that. I think kbdfans suggested that.
I'd certainly be disappointed, but the "flip it on mm" option is a fine option, imo
Post by: Aerizu on Sun, 17 May 2020, 05:10:50
Post by: xantiema on Sun, 17 May 2020, 05:37:31
So my Polaris arrived with missing hex screws (small ones at the bottom of the case). Does anyone know what size are these?Screw specifications should always be listed as information for Case GBs, given how often they strip (and other reasons such as this) :thumb:
Post by: _PixelNinja on Sun, 17 May 2020, 07:17:08
Post by: Aerizu on Sun, 17 May 2020, 08:53:35
So my Polaris arrived with missing hex screws (small ones at the bottom of the case). Does anyone know what size are these?Screw specifications should always be listed as information for Case GBs, given how often they strip (and other reasons such as this) :thumb:
I asked around the discord server and they said it's M2 hex screws.
Post by: donkey on Sun, 17 May 2020, 09:37:44
I'm screwed otherwise (pun intended).
Post by: dmatx1 on Sun, 17 May 2020, 11:20:38
So my Polaris arrived with missing hex screws (small ones at the bottom of the case). Does anyone know what size are these?
Screws:
- Case screws are M2x8mm
- Weight screws are M3x4mm
Hardware-Spec.txt (https://dl.ai03.me/Polaris%20Resources/)
Post by: xantiema on Sun, 17 May 2020, 11:34:53
So my Polaris arrived with missing hex screws (small ones at the bottom of the case). Does anyone know what size are these?
Screws:
- Case screws are M2x8mm
- Weight screws are M3x4mm
Hardware-Spec.txt (https://dl.ai03.me/Polaris%20Resources/)
Much obliged. Do you know if they are countersunk or flat?
Post by: dmatx1 on Sun, 17 May 2020, 11:47:09
Much obliged. Do you know if they are countersunk or flat?
weight: countersunk
case: flat (or whatever is the name of this (https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB19TDTVrrpK1RjSZTEq6AWAVXaV.jpg) type of screw head)
Post by: pr0ximity on Sun, 17 May 2020, 20:31:10
Post by: Solotov on Mon, 18 May 2020, 03:38:05
(https://i.imgur.com/IXTHmH7r.jpg)
Love the board anyway :thumb:
Post by: sevenseacat on Mon, 18 May 2020, 04:29:40
Post by: neutralstate on Mon, 18 May 2020, 09:26:07
Post by: ninjacore on Mon, 18 May 2020, 09:32:15
Post by: ullr on Mon, 18 May 2020, 13:58:13
Post by: ludd3 on Mon, 18 May 2020, 18:03:35
Post by: zian_ on Mon, 18 May 2020, 18:07:07
Am I the only one who still havent recieved my Polaris ?
Nope lol
Post by: ludd3 on Mon, 18 May 2020, 18:09:00
Post by: Slash Emperor on Mon, 18 May 2020, 19:09:58
Am I the only one who still havent recieved my Polaris ?
Nope lol
Same. Gray Alu HHKB with Brass Half-Plate and Poly Half-Plate (and ePBT SimpleJA which is supposed to ship with the Polaris), no shipment notification yet.
Post by: donkey on Mon, 18 May 2020, 20:09:04
- Black case with normal brass weight
- 2 PCBs
- full-brass plate and half-FR4 plate
- all the screws were already screwed in and none missing. Whew.
Half-FR4 plate looked pretty good.
https://www.keebtalk.com/t/what-did-you-get-in-the-mail-today/1572/2109?u=donpark
Post by: nycxandy on Mon, 18 May 2020, 23:12:42
Post by: mongoose27 on Tue, 19 May 2020, 00:31:42
Post by: adamjohari on Tue, 19 May 2020, 01:45:04
Believe the color reference is Tofu E-yellow, which based on the picture, similar to what Polaris color is. Since I do not own Tofu E-yellow, maybe anyone can confirm this.LOL! It's school bus yellow instead of that light yellow they showed in the IC pictures. I wonder how the mixup like that happens (entirely different color here, not a minor nitpick by pedantic keyboardists). Still waiting for mine to come - on the plus side I already have a matching keyset for that color and was gonna have to find something for the original yellowExactly! Like what color blind person was assigned to this project? At minimum have the proto nearby to compare.
Also, to all "E-Yellow" buyers, I reached out to KBDfans to exchange if they had something more similar to what was presented. Here is the response:
"This color is correct ,have no issues.all other sets are same
If you can not accept it ,Pls return back to the Chinese address ,Thanks "
So ALL of the E Yellow will look the same, if you haven't gotten a shipping email and do not want this color then I suggest you reach out to say do not send and please refund. Otherwise you will have to bite the bullet and pay for shipping back to China during this crisis.
Quite sad with the e-yellow color, maybe I will just pair with Kaiju, altho the color might be a bit off.
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I graduated from the U of I where our main color is Orange and Blue. Let me know if you want to sell it off :D
Post by: koenoe on Tue, 19 May 2020, 04:00:33
Post by: juliandoucette on Tue, 19 May 2020, 17:53:08
PS: I'm leaving this comment because I think it's the appropriate place and format to leave feedback about the group buy. Please excuse my ignorance and negativity if I am incorrect.
Post by: n.rdy on Tue, 19 May 2020, 19:57:01
Post by: 1391401 on Tue, 19 May 2020, 20:13:57
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 19 May 2020, 22:39:49
That blue is wild - like they didn't even try. It's still a nice color just like the yellow - just completely wrong.
blue grey is very rarely on point in any gb
i kinda like this one tho
Post by: sevenseacat on Thu, 21 May 2020, 01:11:20
Looking in all of the little baggies looks like there's a bag of replacement silver screws, so I guess I'll have one silver screw in my all-black case! :(
Post by: funderburker on Thu, 21 May 2020, 03:08:53
Wooooo my Polaris arrived today! ... minus one black screw in the weight. I don't even know how that happens. -_-
Looking in all of the little baggies looks like there's a bag of replacement silver screws, so I guess I'll have one silver screw in my all-black case! :(
Human error. When they have to package that many boards and QC everything, it can happen.
Just remember that these are not some special screws (besides the colour) so you can always just get them online or in a shop. Probably not worth asking for KBDFans to send you a single screw. :D
Post by: ai03 on Thu, 21 May 2020, 10:41:27
Relaying information from the Discord server:
Shipping status: KBDfans has been capped to around 150kg of shipping per day with DHL and FedEx limitations combined, which is not much at all considering they also must ship quite a few other products in parallel. They are doing the best they can to ship stuff as quickly as possible, but the bottleneck is hitting hard.
Color differences: A few of the colors turned out differently from ideal due to a few factors:
- Factory switchup after GB closed due to the original factory running away, leading to a very rushed switch to a different factory with differing capabilities
- Certain colors that failed to anodize consistently no matter how many times we tried at the new factory, forcing us to different hues
Extra parts: As of right now, there are no plans to sell individual extra parts, especially since they wouldn't even ship within a reasonable timespan without paying ridiculous amounts for already capped DHL/FedEx shipping. However, the PCB dimensions and plate files have been open sourced.
Screws: I apologize for any missing screws; they were likely accidentally skipped at the factory as they rushed to get the boards out following the delay from CNY and following pandemic lockdown. It will likely take months to ship the screws internationally by a shipping method of any reasonable cost, so if not waiting for the pandemic to be controlled and shipping/international travel to resume, here are the specifications for the screws that may be possible to source locally instead:
Case: M2, 6mm length
Weight: M3, 4mm length
Post by: lunr on Thu, 21 May 2020, 13:47:11
Extra parts: As of right now, there are no plans to sell individual extra parts, especially since they wouldn't even ship within a reasonable timespan without paying ridiculous amounts for already capped DHL/FedEx shipping. However, the PCB dimensions and plate files have been open sourced.
Post by: dmatx1 on Thu, 21 May 2020, 14:07:50
I can't seem to find the plate files in this thread. Can you please link them?
https://dl.ai03.me/Polaris%20Resources/ (https://dl.ai03.me/Polaris%20Resources/)
Post by: odd on Thu, 21 May 2020, 15:37:05
For your board to be able to be delivered in the US did you have to send KBDFANS $20 for shipping or is there an invoice of some sort?
I used EMS b/c it was originally free shipping; however, due to shipping issues, I changed my address and opted for DHL. KBD support said they would invoice me for shipping. I haven't been invoiced yet so I'm guessing my order isn't ready. I'm waiting on a Polaris and Simple JA.
There shouldn't be a invoice. I sent $20 via paypal then sent them a email with the paypal transaction # and got verification within the hour. These instructions were posted in the KBDfans Discord. I wouldn't sweat it though since that was last month and I'm still waiting for my tracking # or any info on when I'll get my board (black/brass). I'm gonna guess that the $20 that was sent to speed up shipping was just to get your hopes up in getting it quicker because that's obviously not the case.
Post by: directheatedtriode on Thu, 21 May 2020, 16:17:09
Post by: child on Sun, 24 May 2020, 06:56:33
I must say I am amazed - both the quality and the sound are nearly perfect. Initially I wasn't sure if the soft touch of FR4 half plate will be to my liking, but after just a day of using it I can say it's great. I put both foams in - it made the keyboard a tad stiffer, but not much really. I am happy there are further acoustic tuning options, but so far I didn't try them yet.
This keyboard is the first MX board with "raindrop" sound similar to silenced Topre, which I always was a fan of :thumb:
Post by: mongoose27 on Sun, 24 May 2020, 16:13:04
Post by: zian_ on Sun, 24 May 2020, 17:22:01
For your board to be able to be delivered in the US did you have to send KBDFANS $20 for shipping or is there an invoice of some sort?
I used EMS b/c it was originally free shipping; however, due to shipping issues, I changed my address and opted for DHL. KBD support said they would invoice me for shipping. I haven't been invoiced yet so I'm guessing my order isn't ready. I'm waiting on a Polaris and Simple JA.
There shouldn't be a invoice. I sent $20 via paypal then sent them a email with the paypal transaction # and got verification within the hour. These instructions were posted in the KBDfans Discord. I wouldn't sweat it though since that was last month and I'm still waiting for my tracking # or any info on when I'll get my board (black/brass). I'm gonna guess that the $20 that was sent to speed up shipping was just to get your hopes up in getting it quicker because that's obviously not the case.
Probably the case. Just hoping to get it before the end of the year.
Post by: xantiema on Sun, 24 May 2020, 18:25:21
Case: M2, 6mm lengthCountersunk or flat screws ?
Weight: M3, 4mm length
Post by: ai03 on Mon, 25 May 2020, 07:35:18
Case: M2, 6mm lengthCountersunk or flat screws ?
Weight: M3, 4mm length
Countersunk for weight, flat for case.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 25 May 2020, 18:35:07
I am now the only one with a proper yellow Polaris ;) orangebois be damned
Post by: PoohGom on Tue, 26 May 2020, 01:19:38
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/fNl84MEr.jpg)
I am now the only one with a proper yellow Polaris ;) orangebois be damned
Wow. That is a nice yellow... congrats on being the lucky one! What do you plan to build it with?
Post by: vi0till on Tue, 26 May 2020, 10:03:03
Feelsbadman to be orangebois.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/fNl84MEr.jpg)
I am now the only one with a proper yellow Polaris ;) orangebois be damned
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Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Tue, 26 May 2020, 12:12:01
Is there any update on the progress of DMG R2? When will it be delivered? :'( :'( :'(Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/K5xxUiB.png)
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/fNl84MEr.jpg)
I am now the only one with a proper yellow Polaris ;) orangebois be damned
Wow. That is a nice yellow... congrats on being the lucky one! What do you plan to build it with?
Wasn't luck, I had it cerakoted. 205 lubed filmed blacks in the fr4 plate
Post by: HoodrowThrillson on Wed, 27 May 2020, 11:50:55
#lastshipmentgang
Post by: xantiema on Wed, 27 May 2020, 19:23:54
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Wed, 27 May 2020, 19:49:13
...along with Simple JA (which I'm equally excited about).
Post by: odd on Wed, 27 May 2020, 21:16:23
Post by: xantiema on Thu, 28 May 2020, 04:58:31
I thought I was finally going to get mine. I had a DHL shipping notification from KBDFANS, turns out it was only a plate I ordered a few weeks ago :(^-^
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Sun, 31 May 2020, 15:59:07
(https://i.imgur.com/1nrnQAq.jpg)
Post by: zian_ on Sun, 31 May 2020, 17:44:13
I thought I was finally going to get mine. I had a DHL shipping notification from KBDFANS, turns out it was only a plate I ordered a few weeks ago :(
I’d even take a fake shipping notification at this point.
Post by: justinhigley on Mon, 01 June 2020, 14:01:12
[attachimg=1]
Someone run a Trump themed keyset for that e-orange.
I'm going to call this masterpiece Trump Tower Taco Salad.
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Mon, 01 June 2020, 18:03:32
Had intended my e-yellow Polaris to be matched with Serika but I guess the keeb gods had other plans.
(Attachment Link)Someone run a Trump themed keyset for that e-orange.
I'm going to call this masterpiece Trump Tower Taco Salad.
Get that baby cerakoted. The stock color is Corvette yellow.
Post by: vafan on Mon, 01 June 2020, 23:12:11
Post by: jani80k on Tue, 02 June 2020, 04:11:38
Any news about Poly version?
Yes: it kinda good.
Post by: vafan on Fri, 05 June 2020, 01:04:11
Post by: zian_ on Fri, 05 June 2020, 01:37:16
Wait. Do you got it?
KBDfans claims there’s only 80 units left to ship and that it will take 35 days to ship them. Both claims seem highly questionable.
Post by: syberghost on Fri, 05 June 2020, 15:25:38
Wait. Do you got it?
KBDfans claims there’s only 80 units left to ship and that it will take 35 days to ship them. Both claims seem highly questionable.
They claimed that a week ago, so it's less units and less time now. A number of people in the Discord have recently announced they got their shipping notifications, not many people left in there who haven't.
Post by: xantiema on Sat, 06 June 2020, 08:43:16
They claimed that a week ago, so it's less units and less time now. A number of people in the Discord have recently announced they got their shipping notifications, not many people left in there who haven't.
It's only logical to assume things are moving along, albeit at a slow pace. He was referring to the inaccurate and/or unrealistic time frames KBD is announcing: I received 3 (or 4) delays now and definitely expect another prior to my shipping notification. I don't blame KBD, it is what it is given the context of the quarantine.
Post by: zian_ on Sat, 06 June 2020, 09:40:05
They claimed that a week ago, so it's less units and less time now. A number of people in the Discord have recently announced they got their shipping notifications, not many people left in there who haven't.
It's only logical to assume things are moving along, albeit at a slow pace. He was referring to the inaccurate and/or unrealistic time frames KBD is announcing: I received 3 (or 4) delays now and definitely expect another prior to my shipping notification. I don't blame KBD, it is what it is given the context of the quarantine.
That's exactly what I'm saying. Each month, they say "this month!". While its understandable that there is shipping issues due to the current climate, but you go on other forums and see that they're shipping out their own products within days, yet have had payment for polaris for 300 days now.
Post by: 1391401 on Sat, 06 June 2020, 13:46:24
I mean as a community we're happy to continue to supporting group buy runners who still owe sets and kits from 2014 but if a vendor came in here and had 30-60 day ship times we'd probably ride them out on a rail...
Post by: zian_ on Sat, 06 June 2020, 14:14:16
^ it's the curse of the group buy - you've already waited 300 days so you can wait 30 more whereas a new customer buying a new product is going to nope out and WTF pretty quickly if their order takes 30 days
I mean as a community we're happy to continue to supporting group buy runners who still owe sets and kits from 2014 but if a vendor came in here and had 30-60 day ship times we'd probably ride them out on a rail...
If you’re referring to hyperfuse, I don’t think there’s much support there anymore, and is that really the standard we want to hold the community to?
Post by: nathanchere on Sun, 07 June 2020, 18:25:09
Looking at the ongoing ****storm which is the Fusion60 buy also run by kbdfans (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98959 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98959)), does anyone want to take bets now on whether these see the light of day around mid-2020 at the absolute earliest?
Mid 2020, still waiting. On the positive side, kbdfans at least didn't prove me wrong.
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 08 June 2020, 03:40:28
Hi
I am KBDfans customer service Judy
I noticed that you didn't buy the plate for the order ######
Pls reorder it or pay it via paypal directly(Our paypal is kbdfans@gmail.com)
Then show me the payment record .
Thanks&Regards
KBDfans Judy
I thought the plate was included in the price? Why am I only getting this nearly a year later? Seems sketchy.
Post by: Emir on Mon, 08 June 2020, 04:23:57
Oddly enough, within 24 hours of posting the above I receive an update from kbdfans. Not about shipping though :
Hi
I am KBDfans customer service Judy
I noticed that you didn't buy the plate for the order ######
Pls reorder it or pay it via paypal directly(Our paypal is kbdfans@gmail.com)
Then show me the payment record .
Thanks&Regards
KBDfans Judy
I thought the plate was included in the price? Why am I only getting this nearly a year later? Seems sketchy.
iirc you needed to add the plate in the basket, even though you chose it on the main GB page too. The Plate was 30USD, total cost 250+(depends on config) in addition to shipping.
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 08 June 2020, 08:08:46
iirc you needed to add the plate in the basket, even though you chose it on the main GB page too. The Plate was 30USD, total cost 250+(depends on config) in addition to shipping.
Are you trying to say that this could possibly be user error rather than KBDfans trying to **** people over? That's crazy, DEFINITELY sketchy.
Post by: nathanchere on Mon, 08 June 2020, 09:40:42
iirc you needed to add the plate in the basket, even though you chose it on the main GB page too. The Plate was 30USD, total cost 250+(depends on config) in addition to shipping.
Are you trying to say that this could possibly be user error rather than KBDfans trying to **** people over? That's crazy, DEFINITELY sketchy.
Not trying to screw me over, just seems sketchy - did they really not even notice this about orders for nearly a year?
Post by: Mekberg on Mon, 08 June 2020, 09:43:29
Post by: Brez1623 on Mon, 08 June 2020, 10:03:15
I don't think it's unfair to expect the customer to read the instructions and order the correct parts, and since KBDFans are still shipping stuff out, I assume these errors belong to those orders. I don't expect they sit around double-checking people's orders for them until it's time to actually pack them, and only then do they notice that the customer didn't order a plate at all, which is why they're not sending out those e-mails.
I could be wrong, it has been a while since the orders were live but I don't remember there being instructions saying hey if you pick a kit with a plate included it will add the plate to your cart as an individual item not as part of the kit. That's just a crap way of setting up a cart and only leads to confusion. I also had this issue even tho the description for the kit in my cart clearly says, polaris +brass plate. So when I saw a additional brass plate I most likely deleted it from the cart seeing as the kit clearly says brass plate in the description in the cart. Leading me to think hey its included in the kit.
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 09 June 2020, 13:31:14
I don't think it's unfair to expect the customer to read the instructions and order the correct parts, and since KBDFans are still shipping stuff out, I assume these errors belong to those orders. I don't expect they sit around double-checking people's orders for them until it's time to actually pack them, and only then do they notice that the customer didn't order a plate at all, which is why they're not sending out those e-mails.
I don't see how it is 'user error'. My order confirmation included the plate. Although I can't go back and look at kbdfans site since they took the Polaris pages down, the main post in this thread also reaffirms what I always understood. $265 shipped, extra cost if you wanted e-coat or polycarb case.
From https://kb.ai03.me/projects/polaris.html:
(https://i.imgur.com/TIB7XHU.png)
This also says nothing about extra cost for plates anywhere on the page. Kbdfans are now asking for another $40 to include a plate. Yeah, it feels sketchy. So to be clear, everyone else who ordered had to pay extra for their plate?
Post by: nathanchere on Tue, 09 June 2020, 13:39:46
Quote
HI
Just pay USD$40 via PayPal directly
Our PayPal account is kbdfans@gmail.com
Then show me the payment record, we will add it for you
and we have 2 plates for choice , 1 WKL brass Full Steel gold one 2 WKL FR4 Full Steel
which one do u want ?
My payment confirmation included this:
Quote
[GB] Polaris 60% Keyboard × 1
E-White / HHKB / Black matte PVD
Plate: Universal Layout - Poly Full
So now they are saying pay an extra $40, and my only choices are for a metal or FR4 plate (not what I wanted) in WKL (I ordered HHKB not WKL)
And you still think this is just 'user error'?
Post by: PoohGom on Tue, 09 June 2020, 13:56:22
To make it more bull****, the latest email:QuoteHI
Just pay USD$40 via PayPal directly
Our PayPal account is kbdfans@gmail.com
Then show me the payment record, we will add it for you
and we have 2 plates for choice , 1 WKL brass Full Steel gold one 2 WKL FR4 Full Steel
which one do u want ?
My payment confirmation included this:Quote[GB] Polaris 60% Keyboard × 1
E-White / HHKB / Black matte PVD
Plate: Universal Layout - Poly Full
So now they are saying pay an extra $40, and my only choices are for a metal or FR4 plate (not what I wanted) in WKL (I ordered HHKB not WKL)
And you still think this is just 'user error'?
As stated above, even though your order confirmation said the plate was included, when the GB was happening it clearly stated in the instructions to add the desired plate option to your cart. My order confirmation says the plate is in the kit, but you still had to pay for the plate separately.
Post by: xantiema on Tue, 09 June 2020, 14:50:24
Post by: andtar2 on Tue, 09 June 2020, 15:00:56
My payment confirmation included this:Quote[GB] Polaris 60% Keyboard × 1
E-White / HHKB / Black matte PVD
Plate: Universal Layout - Poly Full
Your payment confirmation/basket should had two separate items: one for Polaris + one for plate
Also E-White/E-Yellow/Polycarbonate was 30USD extra, you should had a total of 295USD.
I had exactly same combo E-White/HHKB/Polly Full plate, and payed 295USD + insurance.
Post by: sirieous on Wed, 10 June 2020, 02:00:03
To make it more bull****, the latest email:QuoteHI
Just pay USD$40 via PayPal directly
Our PayPal account is kbdfans@gmail.com
Then show me the payment record, we will add it for you
and we have 2 plates for choice , 1 WKL brass Full Steel gold one 2 WKL FR4 Full Steel
which one do u want ?
My payment confirmation included this:Quote[GB] Polaris 60% Keyboard × 1
E-White / HHKB / Black matte PVD
Plate: Universal Layout - Poly Full
So now they are saying pay an extra $40, and my only choices are for a metal or FR4 plate (not what I wanted) in WKL (I ordered HHKB not WKL)
And you still think this is just 'user error'?
Bud, the WKL plate supports Tsangan, HHKB and WKL.. the other plate option was for universal which allowed for UK ISO.
Post by: nathanchere on Wed, 10 June 2020, 04:14:11
Bud, the WKL plate supports Tsangan, HHKB and WKL.. the other plate option was for universal which allowed for UK ISO.
The universal supports split space bar too which is what I want.
Post by: Khers on Wed, 10 June 2020, 07:36:21
If you really want a specific plate that kbd currently don't have; the files are available, you could just have it cut yourself.
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Wed, 10 June 2020, 10:20:09
Post by: syberghost on Thu, 11 June 2020, 06:37:25
Bud, the WKL plate supports Tsangan, HHKB and WKL.. the other plate option was for universal which allowed for UK ISO.
The universal supports split space bar too which is what I want.
There were only four plate configurations:
Full plate WKL
Full plate Universal
Half plate WKL
Half plate Universal
It sounds like your complaint is that you didn't receive something that nobody received because it didn't exist.
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 11 June 2020, 08:42:47
Bud, the WKL plate supports Tsangan, HHKB and WKL.. the other plate option was for universal which allowed for UK ISO.
The universal supports split space bar too which is what I want.
There were only four plate configurations:
Full plate WKL
Full plate Universal
Half plate WKL
Half plate Universal
It sounds like your complaint is that you didn't receive something that nobody received because it didn't exist.
Full plate universal doesn't exist?....
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 11 June 2020, 08:44:53
(https://i.imgur.com/TIB7XHU.png)
Universal plate, split space support.
WKL, no split space support.
Post by: Banbu on Thu, 11 June 2020, 09:14:57
Forgive me if I'm missing something, but the split spacebar support shown there is for a standard layout/top, and you've mentioned you bought HHKB? I don't believe it actually has support for split spacebar as HHKB. :(Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TIB7XHU.png)
Universal plate, split space support.
WKL, no split space support.
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 11 June 2020, 09:50:21
Forgive me if I'm missing something, but the split spacebar support shown there is for a standard layout/top, and you've mentioned you bought HHKB? I don't believe it actually has support for split spacebar as HHKB. :(Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/TIB7XHU.png)
Universal plate, split space support.
WKL, no split space support.
It works with 1u 1.25u to the left of the space bars which I prefer anyway
Post by: syberghost on Thu, 11 June 2020, 18:30:20
Full plate universal doesn't exist?....
So now they are saying pay an extra $40, and my only choices are for a metal or FR4 plate (not what I wanted) in WKL (I ordered HHKB not WKL)
And you still think this is just 'user error'?
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 11 June 2020, 19:38:10
Did anyone get a dead key on a PCB or have any PCB issues?
Better reach out to Wei, I am sure he will get it fixed or replaced for you. He is usually very fast in responding.
Post by: zian_ on Mon, 15 June 2020, 11:03:50
To make it more bull****, the latest email:QuoteHI
Just pay USD$40 via PayPal directly
Our PayPal account is kbdfans@gmail.com
Then show me the payment record, we will add it for you
and we have 2 plates for choice , 1 WKL brass Full Steel gold one 2 WKL FR4 Full Steel
which one do u want ?
My payment confirmation included this:Quote[GB] Polaris 60% Keyboard × 1
E-White / HHKB / Black matte PVD
Plate: Universal Layout - Poly Full
So now they are saying pay an extra $40, and my only choices are for a metal or FR4 plate (not what I wanted) in WKL (I ordered HHKB not WKL)
And you still think this is just 'user error'?
I had the same issue and had to PP them $40. Definitely user error on our end. I don't even care at this point. I just want to board so I can be done with KBDfans.
Post by: kidpid on Mon, 15 June 2020, 11:41:48
My payment confirmation included this:Quote[GB] Polaris 60% Keyboard × 1
E-White / HHKB / Black matte PVD
Plate: Universal Layout - Poly Full
The universal supports split space bar too which is what I want.
Nevermind, I'm wrong. It does work with the 1.25u keys on each side of the space, like you said.
Post by: zian_ on Tue, 16 June 2020, 22:37:15
Post by: Aorozco6 on Wed, 17 June 2020, 11:49:38
Post by: ninjacore on Wed, 17 June 2020, 12:54:20
Jus out of curiosity am I the only one who still hasn’t gotten their shipping notification?
There are still some in discord who mentioned they haven't received theirs.
Post by: 1391401 on Wed, 17 June 2020, 13:46:25
I thought manufacturing finished in January. WTF is going on.probably COVID
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 18 June 2020, 04:06:38
KBDFans told me today that their manufacturer said they’d be complete at the end of the month?
I thought manufacturing finished in January. WTF is going on.
You're asking in the wrong thread. kbdfans can do no wrong here. This is clearly another in a 6+ month series of "user errors' :rolleyes:
Post by: ai03 on Thu, 18 June 2020, 07:53:49
Some units which arrived at KBDfans were showing imperfections on the weight; additional weights have been re-ordered to replace the faulty ones before the very last units ship.
This should not take too long, since it is just the weights and not a full case replacement.
Post by: krautcat on Fri, 19 June 2020, 13:53:39
Jus out of curiosity am I the only one who still hasn’t gotten their shipping notification?
Greetings from Russia. We have shipping issues. Hope we would get our Polaris this year. :)
Post by: oldcat on Fri, 19 June 2020, 15:51:47
I thought manufacturing finished in January. WTF is going on.probably COVID
To be fair we can't blame everything on Covid, as people tend to these days. Covid is long gone in China (only very small number of cases here and there) and the country is fully operational since early March. As long as we don't see a second wave in China I think manufacturing side will be solid.
In terms of keyboards and keysets that are made and to come out of China, the only things that Covid still affects are increased shipping costs and shipping delays.
Post by: syberghost on Fri, 19 June 2020, 20:12:59
To be fair we can't blame everything on Covid, as people tend to these days. Covid is long gone in China (only very small number of cases here and there) and the country is fully operational since early March. As long as we don't see a second wave in China I think manufacturing side will be solid.
In terms of keyboards and keysets that are made and to come out of China, the only things that Covid still affects are increased shipping costs and shipping delays.
All of that is wrong, but in any event, all that's going on right now with Polaris is shipping delays, so...
Post by: zian_ on Sun, 21 June 2020, 08:28:36
Jus out of curiosity am I the only one who still hasn’t gotten their shipping notification?
Greetings from Russia. We have shipping issues. Hope we would get our Polaris this year. :)
Same buddy. Same.
Post by: 1391401 on Tue, 23 June 2020, 11:12:50
To be fair we can't blame everything on Covid, as people tend to these days.I thought KBDfans said they're having problems shipping things and they were only allowed to ship so many keyboards a day?
Post by: zian_ on Sat, 27 June 2020, 18:41:38
To be fair we can't blame everything on Covid, as people tend to these days.I thought KBDfans said they're having problems shipping things and they were only allowed to ship so many keyboards a day?
Who knows. That's what they said. Then they told me it was shipping that week (over a month ago).
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 28 June 2020, 00:39:37
To be fair we can't blame everything on Covid, as people tend to these days.I thought KBDfans said they're having problems shipping things and they were only allowed to ship so many keyboards a day?
AFAIK those restrictions are still in effect
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 02 July 2020, 05:38:24
without any f**king plate at all >:D >:D after being charged extra on top of it. Did anyone else who had to pay extra for the plate get it sent in the same parcel or do they send it separately?
Post by: 1391401 on Thu, 02 July 2020, 07:51:07
- Polaris 60% Keyboard - E-Yellow / Regular / Black matte PVD $265.00 USD
- Polaris 60% Plate - Universal Layout - Brass Full
---
Total: $308.15 USD
Post by: nathanchere on Thu, 02 July 2020, 09:40:50
Post by: ninjacore on Thu, 02 July 2020, 11:38:08
I was never asked to pay extra for shipping - I remember hearing that and thought it was very shady/strange.
The plate does show up on my invoice as a separate line item.
Post by: nsyinc on Fri, 03 July 2020, 17:29:21
I was asked to pay separately and send the payment confirmation which i did. I went to check emails and found they sent this "confirmation" of delivery (attached) which no longer has the plate mentioned in the original confirmation email or the original PayPal receipt. FML...
how soon did you paypal for the plate after receiving the initial email?
Post by: xantiema on Fri, 10 July 2020, 16:42:09
Post by: Zach on Fri, 10 July 2020, 17:02:46
Still haven't gotten a shipping notification :))Same. I recently contacted them and was told it would be about 3 more weeks... but we'll see :]
Post by: xantiema on Fri, 10 July 2020, 17:10:16
Same. I recently contacted them and was told it would be about 3 more weeks... but we'll see :]
Great, will check back in 9 weeks then :p
Post by: krautcat on Sun, 12 July 2020, 05:50:06
Post by: ai03 on Fri, 24 July 2020, 04:32:02
All buyers still awaiting delivery have been contacted by KBDfans regarding the weight, which should help speed things up until the last of the units are complete.
As for the other logistical issues, I suggest contacting KBDfans; at this point this project is more or less entirely in their hands save for what I can do regarding assembly support.
Post by: xantiema on Fri, 24 July 2020, 09:55:38
Hoping to see full delivery very soon.
All buyers still awaiting delivery have been contacted by KBDfans regarding the weight, which should help speed things up until the last of the units are complete.
As for the other logistical issues, I suggest contacting KBDfans; at this point this project is more or less entirely in their hands save for what I can do regarding assembly support.
Regarding the weight? Not in the loop. Also haven't been contacted as of yet
Post by: Aorozco6 on Fri, 24 July 2020, 13:46:35
Post by: Aorozco6 on Fri, 24 July 2020, 13:52:15
I think the email was for people who had gotten brass weight. So what the email basically said was because they were having problems with the clear PVD coating we had 2 choices. We could either go with just a regular clear coat on the brass or we could switch it to a dark grey PVD coat.Excuse me what I meant to say was the email was probably for everybody who chose that clear PVD coat for the brass weight.
Post by: Aorozco6 on Sat, 08 August 2020, 23:07:42
Post by: manzel on Sun, 09 August 2020, 06:02:05
Post by: Adelscott on Sun, 09 August 2020, 08:56:53
Post by: ai03 on Thu, 13 August 2020, 09:06:41
All Polaris orders are in the process of shipping save for one order: the buyer purchased a Polaris case and assembly service without ordering a plate, making board assembly impossible.
If you are the one who purchased this configuration, KBDfans has sent you many emails in an attempt to reach out; please check your inbox and spam folder.
If there is no response, we will simply make do with whatever spare plate we have on hand.
Aside from that, this group buy is basically as close to concluded as can be for the time being.
---
Now the next challenge is to handle the over 300 QC rejected brass parts, recoating them with a different finish and matching them to brand new cases. Hopefully such will be a significantly more environmentally friendly choice than throwing them all out, and will open up opportunities for more people to obtain a unit if they missed the GB.
Post by: kevchigga on Thu, 13 August 2020, 12:57:27
Just got a close-to-final word from KBDfans:
All Polaris orders are in the process of shipping save for one order: the buyer purchased a Polaris case and assembly service without ordering a plate, making board assembly impossible.
If you are the one who purchased this configuration, KBDfans has sent you many emails in an attempt to reach out; please check your inbox and spam folder.
If there is no response, we will simply make do with whatever spare plate we have on hand.
Aside from that, this group buy is basically as close to concluded as can be for the time being.
---
Now the next challenge is to handle the over 300 QC rejected brass parts, recoating them with a different finish and matching them to brand new cases. Hopefully such will be a significantly more environmentally friendly choice than throwing them all out, and will open up opportunities for more people to obtain a unit if they missed the GB.
WOOHOO! I would love to purchase a Polaris with one of the rejected weight that did not make QC or something since I missed out on the initial GB ):
Post by: nathanchere on Fri, 14 August 2020, 03:56:41
Just got a close-to-final word from KBDfans:Or maybe even just offer them as-is B-stock. It's not like you see it most of the time anyway, and I imagine there are people who would be happier to get it refinished themselves with something like cerakote.
All Polaris orders are in the process of shipping save for one order: the buyer purchased a Polaris case and assembly service without ordering a plate, making board assembly impossible.
If you are the one who purchased this configuration, KBDfans has sent you many emails in an attempt to reach out; please check your inbox and spam folder.
If there is no response, we will simply make do with whatever spare plate we have on hand.
Aside from that, this group buy is basically as close to concluded as can be for the time being.
---
Now the next challenge is to handle the over 300 QC rejected brass parts, recoating them with a different finish and matching them to brand new cases. Hopefully such will be a significantly more environmentally friendly choice than throwing them all out, and will open up opportunities for more people to obtain a unit if they missed the GB.
Post by: krautcat on Fri, 14 August 2020, 04:18:12
I love Wei.
I think my Polaris just doesn't exist and my existence is invalid.
Post by: ai03 on Fri, 14 August 2020, 09:59:19
Wow, there're no emails from KBDFans. I don't have assembly service. I haven't got any words about my order. Just... Silence.
I love Wei.
I think my Polaris just doesn't exist and my existence is invalid.
I have also heard one notice that there exist orders which are simply impossible to ship due to the logistics chain being broken from KBDfans to the delivery target (i.e. shipments halted or temporarily suspended due to the pandemic). As much as it is important to contact KBDfans regarding the matter, please verify that it is indeed possible to deliver to the specified address as of the time being.
Post by: TopreMoon on Fri, 14 August 2020, 16:09:40
Now the next challenge is to handle the over 300 QC rejected brass parts, recoating them with a different finish and matching them to brand new cases. Hopefully such will be a significantly more environmentally friendly choice than throwing them all out, and will open up opportunities for more people to obtain a unit if they missed the GB.
What's the best way to keep up to date about these? This thread?
Post by: Knoxx on Fri, 14 August 2020, 19:21:54
Now the next challenge is to handle the over 300 QC rejected brass parts, recoating them with a different finish and matching them to brand new cases. Hopefully such will be a significantly more environmentally friendly choice than throwing them all out, and will open up opportunities for more people to obtain a unit if they missed the GB.
What's the best way to keep up to date about these? This thread?
The ai03 discord.
Post by: ai03 on Tue, 25 August 2020, 11:42:14
It's been quite an eventful 12 months, but at last all 1000+ units of Polaris have shipped, save for a single unit for which there is no logistic route available (shipping route suspended due to covid/political reasons). This last order will be shipped as soon as the route is re-opened; aside from that, the Polaris GB is complete for the time being.
Thank you once again for everyone who has supported me and Kevinplus along the way on our first very-high volume GB, and to KBDfans for making it possible. We will continue to put in our best efforts with the other upcoming projects.
Polaris extra units
Yes, this will happen. We will refinish a massive pile of hundreds of QC reject brass weights to A-stock standards, manufacture new cases and PCBs to pair them with, and sell them once they are ready.
This may be a chance to obtain a Polaris if you missed out on the original group buy. As is typical, there is no estimate on completion date since manufacturing takes quite some time.
Post by: Rafa_n on Tue, 25 August 2020, 12:59:32
Well done, and good luck on you next boards, I'm hopping for another 60% in the future myself :thumb:
Post by: santela on Tue, 25 August 2020, 22:21:17
Post by: Fredington on Wed, 21 October 2020, 09:12:31
Post by: dmatx1 on Wed, 21 October 2020, 11:00:25
Is there a plate file?
plate files (https://dl.ai03.com/Polaris%20Resources/)
Post by: krautcat on Wed, 21 October 2020, 12:28:39
Or, if my suffering is as endless as anxiety, my Polaris doesn't exist in my reality, and so my existence is not valid.
I just have given up.
Lets see what there will be.
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 29 October 2020, 17:55:47
Post by: ai03 on Fri, 30 October 2020, 07:40:44
This is the second and final batch of Polaris extras.
There will be roughly 300 units total, making it a bit larger than a typical batch of extras.
Cases are newly manufactured to match the carefully refinished weights.
Colorways are the following:
- E-white case, e-black weight
- E-black case, e-white weight
The reason for so few colors and all-ecoat is the following:
- Very few units into many colors = lots of wasted ecoat vat, terrible for environment.
- E-coat can be done fast, meaning the extras will arrive much sooner.
Plates will be full poly universal, putting typing comfort and uniformity first.
The case will be available in WKL and corner blocker variants (the certain happy layout, avoiding using the commonly used term from now on for the sake of trademarks and whatnot).
We are hoping to get this out by early 2021 before Chinese New Year in mid-February. As usual, this is just a typical ETA that can get pushed back, so do take it with a grain of salt.
Post by: dallman5 on Fri, 30 October 2020, 08:47:37
Also any pictures of e-black? I've seen e-white many times before but I'm not familiar with e-black.
Post by: kevchigga on Fri, 30 October 2020, 09:11:05
Polaris Extras, Batch 2 Announcement
This is the second and final batch of Polaris extras.
There will be roughly 300 units total, making it a bit larger than a typical batch of extras.
Cases are newly manufactured to match the carefully refinished weights.
Colorways are the following:
- E-white case, e-black weight
- E-black case, e-white weight
The reason for so few colors and all-ecoat is the following:
- Very few units into many colors = lots of wasted ecoat vat, terrible for environment.
- E-coat can be done fast, meaning the extras will arrive much sooner.
Plates will be full poly universal, putting typing comfort and uniformity first.
The case will be available in WKL and corner blocker variants (the certain happy layout, avoiding using the commonly used term from now on for the sake of trademarks and whatnot).
We are hoping to get this out by early 2021 before Chinese New Year in mid-February. As usual, this is just a typical ETA that can get pushed back, so do take it with a grain of salt.
Yes! Can finally try and get my hands on one! Where will it be available? KBD?
Post by: mrvco on Sun, 01 November 2020, 00:10:17
Post by: krautcat on Sun, 01 November 2020, 12:58:07
The last undelivered Polaris from groupbuy in the whole world have been delivered to Russia today.
Bad news: it has universal polycarbonate plate instead of WKL.
I hate KBDFans so much.
Post by: FellTattooArtist on Fri, 01 January 2021, 13:13:21
Polaris Extras, Batch 2 Announcement
This is the second and final batch of Polaris extras.
There will be roughly 300 units total, making it a bit larger than a typical batch of extras.
Cases are newly manufactured to match the carefully refinished weights.
Colorways are the following:
- E-white case, e-black weight
- E-black case, e-white weight
The reason for so few colors and all-ecoat is the following:
- Very few units into many colors = lots of wasted ecoat vat, terrible for environment.
- E-coat can be done fast, meaning the extras will arrive much sooner.
Plates will be full poly universal, putting typing comfort and uniformity first.
The case will be available in WKL and corner blocker variants (the certain happy layout, avoiding using the commonly used term from now on for the sake of trademarks and whatnot).
We are hoping to get this out by early 2021 before Chinese New Year in mid-February. As usual, this is just a typical ETA that can get pushed back, so do take it with a grain of salt.
Not even one Regular\Full top?
Post by: yuejia on Mon, 04 January 2021, 01:24:52
Post by: Fredington on Thu, 21 January 2021, 12:41:45
Post by: atkins on Fri, 19 February 2021, 13:09:16
Polaris Extras, Batch 2 Announcement
This is the second and final batch of Polaris extras.
There will be roughly 300 units total, making it a bit larger than a typical batch of extras.
Cases are newly manufactured to match the carefully refinished weights.
Colorways are the following:
- E-white case, e-black weight
- E-black case, e-white weight
The reason for so few colors and all-ecoat is the following:
- Very few units into many colors = lots of wasted ecoat vat, terrible for environment.
- E-coat can be done fast, meaning the extras will arrive much sooner.
Plates will be full poly universal, putting typing comfort and uniformity first.
The case will be available in WKL and corner blocker variants (the certain happy layout, avoiding using the commonly used term from now on for the sake of trademarks and whatnot).
We are hoping to get this out by early 2021 before Chinese New Year in mid-February. As usual, this is just a typical ETA that can get pushed back, so do take it with a grain of salt.
So if I want a full e black version I have to buy two keyboards and swap the wheigts? Ow
Post by: nathanchere on Fri, 19 February 2021, 14:26:03
So if I want a full e black version I have to buy two keyboards and swap the wheigts? Ow
Even if you take the scalpers out of the equation it's a hugely popular board (and for good reason) at a very competitive price for the quality it delivers. Add the aftermarket price into the equation and you'll be lucky to get one at all let alone two. Your best bet would be order a black one and then post a trade for your weight with someone else's.
Post by: alspdx on Sat, 20 February 2021, 23:40:34
order a black one and then post a trade for your weight with someone else's.
I'm sure there will be plenty of e-white owners who will be looking to do the same. It's worth looking into.
Post by: ai03 on Mon, 29 March 2021, 06:33:32
Quick overview: 300 units, 355 USD, 3/29 19:00 PST at KBDfans.
Detailed:
As announced before, these units will be available in the following configuration(s):
- Winkeyless or corner-blocker (the certain happy layout),
- E-white + E-black weight or E-black + E-white weight,
- Locked to polycarbonate universal plate.
Price is noticeably higher than before due to two main reasons:
- Material price increase (metals have gone up around 35% in cost compared to last year),
- Conversion rates from RMB to USD skyrocketing.
Units will be listed at KBDfans' storefront at 3/29 19:00 PST (3/30 10:00 Beijing time).
All sales are final, for these are extras and more units can't be produced as a replacements margin. We've done our best to QC these to high standards, but do keep this in mind if you are particularly sensitive to imperfections.
Once these units are sold, the Polaris group buy will be fully concluded.
(https://i.imgur.com/U4DofG6.png)
Edit: Sold out; GB complete.