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Finally!!!! Been waiting for this!!!! Good luck man!
I’m in for sure.
Any idea on pricing given the large number of custom molds you’ll need?
I am not 100% sold on the colorway—reminds me of metropolis—but I will support the project in hopes we can get a WoB or BoW set next.
Thoroughly enjoyed reading through your OP. Nice IC. Need to see more renders to be sold on the colors but looks good for now
I love those novelties!!!
Damn it's still 2020 and the best set of 2021 has already been shown
mixed feeling about this set
Nice combinations of colours, very versatile base kit and good child kits. The Kits will be very expensive to do in GMK because all the new molds.
Very nice indeed, but there are so many parts of this I don't understand.
First- the Simplified Chinese in the base kit. Cangjie/倉頡 was invented as a Traditional Chineseinput method at first, the way it works is by chopping the chinese letter into different parts, a really simple example is the word"明", it splits into "日" and "月", -A and B on your keyboard. Simplified Chinese can't do this for more complicated words because the, well, "simplified letters".
Simplified Chinese compatibility wasn't even added before 1987. Using simplified chinese in the mods is kinda ironic (or rather insulting imo), I would switch to Traditional Chinese if you really mean to theme this after the cangjie input method .
Second- the cangjie radicals monolegend kit, Cangjie input method, fyi, DOESN'T use the num row at all, really feels weird to me that you included the monolegend numbers row in the kit
BUT I guess it keeps the alphas cleaner with one type of legends, so whatever.
Third- the traditional chinese numerals in the numpad. If you are using simplified chinese in the mods, use the modernised chinese numerials instead(零一二三四五六七八九).
If you wis to use the traditional chinese numerals, the legend for 6 is 陸, not 柳 (unless its some regional difference mumbo jumbo in beijing or whatever"
上下左右 and 東南西北 are also not really necessary but to add more cost to the kit, arrows are fine (to me)
Lastly, the naming of the spacebar kit, just name it the "taiko kit" if you want to add the Shenzhou spaceship reference
Cangjie is also invented in Taiwan by a Taiwanese at the time so I feel really weird about the novelites kit
and fyi cangjie is REALLYYYYYY rarely used in China(and they don't teach it in school), people in Hong Kong-like me and Taiwan uses it more often than the people in china which usully sticks with piniy,ignore me if you count HK and TW as China, don't wanna make this post into some political ****show
mixed feeling about this set
Nice combinations of colours, very versatile base kit and good child kits. The Kits will be very expensive to do in GMK because all the new molds.
Very nice indeed, but there are so many parts of this I don't understand.
First- the Simplified Chinese in the base kit. Cangjie/倉頡 was invented as a Traditional Chineseinput method at first, the way it works is by chopping the chinese letter into different parts, a really simple example is the word"明", it splits into "日" and "月", -A and B on your keyboard. Simplified Chinese can't do this for more complicated words because the, well, "simplified letters".
Simplified Chinese compatibility wasn't even added before 1987. Using simplified chinese in the mods is kinda ironic (or rather insulting imo), I would switch to Traditional Chinese if you really mean to theme this after the cangjie input method .
Second- the cangjie radicals monolegend kit, Cangjie input method, fyi, DOESN'T use the num row at all, really feels weird to me that you included the monolegend numbers row in the kit
BUT I guess it keeps the alphas cleaner with one type of legends, so whatever.
Third- the traditional chinese numerals in the numpad. If you are using simplified chinese in the mods, use the modernised chinese numerials instead(零一二三四五六七八九).
If you wis to use the traditional chinese numerals, the legend for 6 is 陸, not 柳 (unless its some regional difference mumbo jumbo in beijing or whatever"
上下左右 and 東南西北 are also not really necessary but to add more cost to the kit, arrows are fine (to me)
Lastly, the naming of the spacebar kit, just name it the "taiko kit" if you want to add the Shenzhou spaceship reference
Cangjie is also invented in Taiwan by a Taiwanese at the time so I feel really weird about the novelites kit
and fyi cangjie is REALLYYYYYY rarely used in China(and they don't teach it in school), people in Hong Kong-like me and Taiwan uses it more often than the people in china which usully sticks with piniy,ignore me if you count HK and TW as China, don't wanna make this post into some political ****show
mixed feeling about this set
Nice combinations of colours, very versatile base kit and good child kits. The Kits will be very expensive to do in GMK because all the new molds.
Very nice indeed, but there are so many parts of this I don't understand.
First- the Simplified Chinese in the base kit. Cangjie/倉頡 was invented as a Traditional Chineseinput method at first, the way it works is by chopping the chinese letter into different parts, a really simple example is the word"明", it splits into "日" and "月", -A and B on your keyboard. Simplified Chinese can't do this for more complicated words because the, well, "simplified letters".
Simplified Chinese compatibility wasn't even added before 1987. Using simplified chinese in the mods is kinda ironic (or rather insulting imo), I would switch to Traditional Chinese if you really mean to theme this after the cangjie input method .
Second- the cangjie radicals monolegend kit, Cangjie input method, fyi, DOESN'T use the num row at all, really feels weird to me that you included the monolegend numbers row in the kit
BUT I guess it keeps the alphas cleaner with one type of legends, so whatever.
Third- the traditional chinese numerals in the numpad. If you are using simplified chinese in the mods, use the modernised chinese numerials instead(零一二三四五六七八九).
If you wis to use the traditional chinese numerals, the legend for 6 is 陸, not 柳 (unless its some regional difference mumbo jumbo in beijing or whatever"
上下左右 and 東南西北 are also not really necessary but to add more cost to the kit, arrows are fine (to me)
Lastly, the naming of the spacebar kit, just name it the "taiko kit" if you want to add the Shenzhou spaceship reference
Cangjie is also invented in Taiwan by a Taiwanese at the time so I feel really weird about the novelites kit
and fyi cangjie is REALLYYYYYY rarely used in China(and they don't teach it in school), people in Hong Kong-like me and Taiwan uses it more often than the people in china which usully sticks with piniy,ignore me if you count HK and TW as China, don't wanna make this post into some political ****show
For your first point, I think even though Cangjie is more widely used in Taiwan & HK, there is nothing weird about using Simplified Chinese to better capture the culture & vibe in Houhai, Beijing. And I don't know why it is "insulting" to you.
Again, hope no one turns this into a political debate on the complex Mainland-Taiwan-HK issues looool. Love the set :thumb:
This looks uh expensive! I am all in.
mixed feeling about this set
Nice combinations of colours, very versatile base kit and good child kits. The Kits will be very expensive to do in GMK because all the new molds.
Very nice indeed, but there are so many parts of this I don't understand.
First- the Simplified Chinese in the base kit. Cangjie/倉頡 was invented as a Traditional Chineseinput method at first, the way it works is by chopping the chinese letter into different parts, a really simple example is the word"明", it splits into "日" and "月", -A and B on your keyboard. Simplified Chinese can't do this for more complicated words because the, well, "simplified letters".
Simplified Chinese compatibility wasn't even added before 1987. Using simplified chinese in the mods is kinda ironic (or rather insulting imo), I would switch to Traditional Chinese if you really mean to theme this after the cangjie input method .
Second- the cangjie radicals monolegend kit, Cangjie input method, fyi, DOESN'T use the num row at all, really feels weird to me that you included the monolegend numbers row in the kit
BUT I guess it keeps the alphas cleaner with one type of legends, so whatever.
Third- the traditional chinese numerals in the numpad. If you are using simplified chinese in the mods, use the modernised chinese numerials instead(零一二三四五六七八九).
If you wis to use the traditional chinese numerals, the legend for 6 is 陸, not 柳 (unless its some regional difference mumbo jumbo in beijing or whatever"
上下左右 and 東南西北 are also not really necessary but to add more cost to the kit, arrows are fine (to me)
Lastly, the naming of the spacebar kit, just name it the "taiko kit" if you want to add the Shenzhou spaceship reference
Cangjie is also invented in Taiwan by a Taiwanese at the time so I feel really weird about the novelites kit
and fyi cangjie is REALLYYYYYY rarely used in China(and they don't teach it in school), people in Hong Kong-like me and Taiwan uses it more often than the people in china which usully sticks with piniy,ignore me if you count HK and TW as China, don't wanna make this post into some political ****show
For your first point, I think even though Cangjie is more widely used in Taiwan & HK, there is nothing weird about using Simplified Chinese to better capture the culture & vibe in Houhai, Beijing. And I don't know why it is "insulting" to you.
Again, hope no one turns this into a political debate on the complex Mainland-Taiwan-HK issues looool. Love the set :thumb:
Because from a linguistic perspective, Simplified Chinese(SC) is a backwards of Traditional Chinese(TC); it gutted a lot of Chinese cultural characteristics for easing the illiteracy rate in China.
Cangjie was made under the foundation of TC and binding it tgt with SC isn't really that appropriate in a cultural context.
That's all really good feedback and I will be thinking about what you've said. For the most part, we expect sales to be higher in mainland China which is why we used simplified characters for mods. (Also, I can't read traditional characters very well!) The Chinese mods are not intended to be Cangjie, because Cangjie only applies to alphas. Finally, please understand that the reason we've included a lot of Chinese characters on areas like numerals for example is because the western audience thinks they look cool. The numbers aren't really supposed to be part of the Cangjie system as much as they are a decoration. Thanks for the catch on the 陸 legend. That was simply a mistake and I'm not sure how that happened. We will fix it!
Feel free to reach me on discord or IG to talk about any other thoughts you have.
mixed feeling about this set
Nice combinations of colours, very versatile base kit and good child kits. The Kits will be very expensive to do in GMK because all the new molds.
Very nice indeed, but there are so many parts of this I don't understand.
First- the Simplified Chinese in the base kit. Cangjie/倉頡 was invented as a Traditional Chineseinput method at first, the way it works is by chopping the chinese letter into different parts, a really simple example is the word"明", it splits into "日" and "月", -A and B on your keyboard. Simplified Chinese can't do this for more complicated words because the, well, "simplified letters".
Simplified Chinese compatibility wasn't even added before 1987. Using simplified chinese in the mods is kinda ironic (or rather insulting imo), I would switch to Traditional Chinese if you really mean to theme this after the cangjie input method .
Second- the cangjie radicals monolegend kit, Cangjie input method, fyi, DOESN'T use the num row at all, really feels weird to me that you included the monolegend numbers row in the kit
BUT I guess it keeps the alphas cleaner with one type of legends, so whatever.
Third- the traditional chinese numerals in the numpad. If you are using simplified chinese in the mods, use the modernised chinese numerials instead(零一二三四五六七八九).
If you wis to use the traditional chinese numerals, the legend for 6 is 陸, not 柳 (unless its some regional difference mumbo jumbo in beijing or whatever"
上下左右 and 東南西北 are also not really necessary but to add more cost to the kit, arrows are fine (to me)
Lastly, the naming of the spacebar kit, just name it the "taiko kit" if you want to add the Shenzhou spaceship reference
Cangjie is also invented in Taiwan by a Taiwanese at the time so I feel really weird about the novelites kit
and fyi cangjie is REALLYYYYYY rarely used in China(and they don't teach it in school), people in Hong Kong-like me and Taiwan uses it more often than the people in china which usully sticks with piniy,ignore me if you count HK and TW as China, don't wanna make this post into some political ****show
For your first point, I think even though Cangjie is more widely used in Taiwan & HK, there is nothing weird about using Simplified Chinese to better capture the culture & vibe in Houhai, Beijing. And I don't know why it is "insulting" to you.
Again, hope no one turns this into a political debate on the complex Mainland-Taiwan-HK issues looool. Love the set :thumb:
Because from a linguistic perspective, Simplified Chinese(SC) is a backwards of Traditional Chinese(TC); it gutted a lot of Chinese cultural characteristics for easing the illiteracy rate in China.
Cangjie was made under the foundation of TC and binding it tgt with SC isn't really that appropriate in a cultural context.
Yeah Simplified Chinese is indeed a simplified version but also the one people in Beijing use (not trying to argue which one is superior).
The set is named Houhai instead of Cangjie. If the set is called "GMK Cangjie" I would also vote for using Traditional Chinese.
mixed feeling about this set
Nice combinations of colours, very versatile base kit and good child kits. The Kits will be very expensive to do in GMK because all the new molds.
Very nice indeed, but there are so many parts of this I don't understand.
First- the Simplified Chinese in the base kit. Cangjie/倉頡 was invented as a Traditional Chineseinput method at first, the way it works is by chopping the chinese letter into different parts, a really simple example is the word"明", it splits into "日" and "月", -A and B on your keyboard. Simplified Chinese can't do this for more complicated words because the, well, "simplified letters".
Simplified Chinese compatibility wasn't even added before 1987. Using simplified chinese in the mods is kinda ironic (or rather insulting imo), I would switch to Traditional Chinese if you really mean to theme this after the cangjie input method .
Second- the cangjie radicals monolegend kit, Cangjie input method, fyi, DOESN'T use the num row at all, really feels weird to me that you included the monolegend numbers row in the kit
BUT I guess it keeps the alphas cleaner with one type of legends, so whatever.
Third- the traditional chinese numerals in the numpad. If you are using simplified chinese in the mods, use the modernised chinese numerials instead(零一二三四五六七八九).
If you wis to use the traditional chinese numerals, the legend for 6 is 陸, not 柳 (unless its some regional difference mumbo jumbo in beijing or whatever"
上下左右 and 東南西北 are also not really necessary but to add more cost to the kit, arrows are fine (to me)
Lastly, the naming of the spacebar kit, just name it the "taiko kit" if you want to add the Shenzhou spaceship reference
Cangjie is also invented in Taiwan by a Taiwanese at the time so I feel really weird about the novelites kit
and fyi cangjie is REALLYYYYYY rarely used in China(and they don't teach it in school), people in Hong Kong-like me and Taiwan uses it more often than the people in china which usully sticks with piniy,ignore me if you count HK and TW as China, don't wanna make this post into some political ****show
For your first point, I think even though Cangjie is more widely used in Taiwan & HK, there is nothing weird about using Simplified Chinese to better capture the culture & vibe in Houhai, Beijing. And I don't know why it is "insulting" to you.
Again, hope no one turns this into a political debate on the complex Mainland-Taiwan-HK issues looool. Love the set :thumb:
Because from a linguistic perspective, Simplified Chinese(SC) is a backwards of Traditional Chinese(TC); it gutted a lot of Chinese cultural characteristics for easing the illiteracy rate in China.
Cangjie was made under the foundation of TC and binding it tgt with SC isn't really that appropriate in a cultural context.
Yeah Simplified Chinese is indeed a simplified version but also the one people in Beijing use (not trying to argue which one is superior).
The set is named Houhai instead of Cangjie. If the set is called "GMK Cangjie" I would also vote for using Traditional Chinese.
Personally I don't really mind if the runner chooses SC or TC, but if the runner wants to incorporate cultural context into the theme, I'd suggest him do it properly.
And you were asking why it was insulting to accompany SC with Cangjie, I was just answering that question, theres nothing to do with whether SC is more widely used or not.
丑就一个字出国秀智商?,真长脸啊!
Beautiful set! Will this be the first ever GMK set with Chinese characters? (Not talking about Hangul and Hiragana)
Not an expert, but wouldn't it be better to have 功能/Fn instead of 菜单/Menu for all of the Fn keys, both Chinese and English? As far as I can tell, 菜单 refers to a restaurant/food menu...
I worked on these mod translations with Exclusive and based them on older existing boards and mod stickers available for the Chinese market. I had the same question as you but decided to go with menu. The word 菜单 applies to both restaurant and computer menus in Chinese as it does in English.
Unique set, I appreciate the time you put into the kits. I would be interested to see instead of RAL 3024-HR as the alpha color, possibly having RAL 160 70 50 or RAL 1028-HR? The topdown E8.5 render shows that contrast you are talking about, but others don't do it much justice.
This set kind of draws me to it the more I look at it.
Would prefer if the set has alpha as the Base set. this set looks very expensive with a lot of wasted keycaps.
Maybe look at the kitting for Kat Cyberspace. my 2 cents.
Strangely into it, il probably pick up a set! Not looking forward to the pricing of the kits though :P
this is an incredible effort and something i'm definitely keeping my eye on. masterpiece having 80 new molds still had a pretty appealing base kit pricing so i'm hoping this doesn't break the bank much further.
Also I think a kit of light alphas (red + white/light grey) will look dope with the colorful mods and novelties :cool:
Big ups to energieschleuder for even making me think this might be possible! That's pretty much where I landed on this. I wanted to make this design rule as much as possible and figure out the money later. Thanks for the kind word, we'll do everything we can to make it accessible to the people.
1.5u shift in the base kit looks interesting, what boards would that work with?
Novelty kit looks amazing, will consider getting one. Can you add row information onto the kit picture?
1.5u shift in the base kit looks interesting, what boards would that work with?
the evolv 75%. it would also be really cool to see a 1800 cp with a 1.5 shift so that the numpad gap is uniform with the rest of the board.
It also turns out I am suddenly in need of a new US vendor. I wouldn’t have launched without one, but I also understand things change. It’s an ambitious project but I’m willing to work to make sure it’s a fit for everyone. US vendors, feel free to reach out to talk. You can catch me on Discord at grundlemere#1126 or IG @grundlemere. All other vendors are still on board and Zfrontier and iLumkb are working to make this a big launch in Asia!
It also turns out I am suddenly in need of a new US vendor. I wouldn’t have launched without one, but I also understand things change. It’s an ambitious project but I’m willing to work to make sure it’s a fit for everyone. US vendors, feel free to reach out to talk. You can catch me on Discord at grundlemere#1126 or IG @grundlemere. All other vendors are still on board and Zfrontier and iLumkb are working to make this a big launch in Asia!
Best of luck finding a new vendor! On IG you commented that TX will "stop running keycap sets for the foreseeable future." Can you provide a bit more information here? Right now this reads as if they're stopping all keycap sales, which seems like something they'd prefer to announce themselves very clearly.
It also turns out I am suddenly in need of a new US vendor. I wouldn’t have launched without one, but I also understand things change. It’s an ambitious project but I’m willing to work to make sure it’s a fit for everyone. US vendors, feel free to reach out to talk. You can catch me on Discord at grundlemere#1126 or IG @grundlemere. All other vendors are still on board and Zfrontier and iLumkb are working to make this a big launch in Asia!
Best of luck finding a new vendor! On IG you commented that TX will "stop running keycap sets for the foreseeable future." Can you provide a bit more information here? Right now this reads as if they're stopping all keycap sales, which seems like something they'd prefer to announce themselves very clearly.
So, to be clear, I have permission from Popkorn to explain that this is why TX backed out. It’s a decision he may revisit down the road, and I for one am hopeful that will happen. TX is a great business and Popkorn has been great. Despite my obvious disappointment at losing my lead vendor at this time, he’s been really helpful through the process and is working to help me find a replacement, and I hope to work with him again in the future. I just bought some stem pickers and lube from him yesterday. :)
First of all, i love the design.
As a Chinese, i really like it. Simplified Chinese or Traditional Chinese aside,just glad to see someone doing this.Especially for the Novelties,the most important thing for normal Chinese people is the food. So 小吃 is really nice. Looked like you really embraced our culture. Even i can only use Pinyin,i wouldnt mind you using Cangjie on it. I know you must know this,Wubi(五笔)is more commonly used for Simplified Chinese.But almost each and everyone now using Pinyin in Mainland China.We can def be using this keysets.
I am in this for sure
加油!
can you add 上下左右 and 東南西北 to base kit?
Why are you including a R2 Home key?
Why are you including a R2 Home key?
Absolutely out of personal preference for my own layout. I typically run a 65 and I like to have home and end keys on my right cluster instead of page up/dn.
Why are you including a R2 Home key?
Absolutely out of personal preference for my own layout. I typically run a 65 and I like to have home and end keys on my right cluster instead of page up/dn.
There's no R3 End key, though, which is why I'm asking. Anyway, why not make it more usable by exchanging that key for R2 Out, R3 Read (or Data)? Doing this will add basic ortho support to the set. There's already a R3 1.25u key, so it's missing those two keys to support ortho. And since the legends are generic, you can also use it for your preferred, albeit admittedly uncommon, 65% layout. Don't ask me how you would translate those to Chinese, though ;)
The missing R3 end key is an oversight and I’m gonna add it to next round. As far as what you need for ortho support, tell me exactly what keys you need to make it work in the IC form (rows, widths, and legends) and I will see if we can add them. And even translate them into Chinese!
Also I think a kit of light alphas (red + white/light grey) will look dope with the colorful mods and novelties :cool:
A lot of people have brought this up! It's something I'm going to be strongly considering either later in the IC or in an R2. I want to play around with KLE to see if I can come up with something I think is appealing.
Got a new partner offering a cool accessory: Rikkachet from Asero Foundry is going to do metal collab artisans in aluminum and timascus! If you haven't seen timascus, google it, it's beautiful. Will probably draw from the novelty icons and that color scheme is gonna be a perfect match for the neon lights of Beijing nights!That is awesome. Thanks for making me even more hyped for January!
This is just a sample of what the timascus material can look like, the patterns of the cap Asero creates may end up looking very differentShow Image(https://i.etsystatic.com/17969779/r/il/d6358b/2229377092/il_794xN.2229377092_c2rd.jpg)
Got a new partner offering a cool accessory: Rikkachet from Asero Foundry is going to do metal collab artisans in aluminum and timascus! If you haven't seen timascus, google it, it's beautiful. Will probably draw from the novelty icons and that color scheme is gonna be a perfect match for the neon lights of Beijing nights!
This is just a sample of what the timascus material can look like, the patterns of the cap Asero creates may end up looking very differentShow Image(https://i.etsystatic.com/17969779/r/il/d6358b/2229377092/il_794xN.2229377092_c2rd.jpg)
There is an error in the legend of numpad. Key 6 should be 陆 instead of 柳。Please refer to https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E6%95%B0%E5%AD%97 for details.
Looks good but I like the colorful set more :) will it be a white legends kit or a totally separate base kit?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6pIHXjH.jpg)
Something that came out of the process...thoughts?
Does xiaochi mean too cheap? Hahah
sanlitun next?
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6pIHXjH.jpg)
Something that came out of the process...thoughts?
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6pIHXjH.jpg)
Something that came out of the process...thoughts?
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6pIHXjH.jpg)
Something that came out of the process...thoughts?
This is such a beautiful set, 2021 seems so far away I can't contain my excitement. As the others have mentioned, I would be really interested to see white/ light alphas!Light alphas kit will be much appreciated!
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6pIHXjH.jpg)
Something that came out of the process...thoughts?
As a Taiwanese-American, I would love to have this set since Chinese sets are not well represented in custom keycaps. I live in the United States and know many people who would love to have this set...all Chinese backgrounds. So do not think that you won't have fans and buyers outside of Mainland China! I look forward to purchasing this!
However, the inconsistency just throws me off because I actually know what I am looking at as oppose to a person that only sees it as a cool decoration. To quote someone else: "Keep it consistent. Simplified and Traditional together is helluva odd."
I am also not 100% sold on the red on black alphas. perhaps after seeing some more renders! or maybe a diff color on black or a light alphas kit?
As for the base kit: I vote for either Option 1: modern icon mods w/o numpad (lowest cost) or option 2: simplified Chinese mods w/o numpad (middle cost). Honestly I would probably get the foreigner kit
WoB set (working title GMK Chine Noire)
99% will pick Option 2Option 3 is so much better. I don't want to have to spend 50 dollars extra for the numpad
I know you're trying to keep things simple, but I was just looking at how I might apply this set to the Adélie (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105185.0;topicseen), and an R2 escape key and R2 1U backspace would be really helpful. I appreciate you're probably not looking to add keys at this point, but if it would be at all possible (perhaps in the mods kits if not in the base), please consider it. I dare say 40% enthusiasts would appreciate it too!
Shouldn't be too hard honestly. Let me see what we can do in work with the vendors. We already added a 1.25u key to support Candybar, etc.
Shouldn't be too hard honestly. Let me see what we can do in work with the vendors. We already added a 1.25u key to support Candybar, etc.
Awesome, thank you for considering it :-)
Is the white diamond key in the render for the icon mods kit a mistake? All the other diamond keys are green, and that same key in the English and Simplified Characters kits is also green.
Btw, just one more thing, although I know you're probably tired of hearing about traditional characters by now. Traditional mods aside, have you considered including a 東 key in the monolegend set so that somebody buying that set plus icon mods can make use of the compass point arrow keys but still keep things all traditional? Just a thought; in the absence of that key I'll probably use the 左右上下 keys or even just the arrow keys, but if 東 was available I'd go for the compass points. I realise that this is a different proposition to something like an escape or backspace key, though.
EDIT: Just realised the 1.75U Enter key on the Adélie is going to be a sticking point, too... this might be harder than I thought! I guess Candybar needs this as well?
I guess you went to the bar many times in the evening in Houhai, Beijing. The spring, summer, autumn and winter of Houhai are actually black in your eyes. Or there is a possibility, color blindness.In addition, speaking of the Chinese characters on the lower keycap, one is why the numeric keys do not make traditional numbers and look more retro? The second is why all the Chinese characters of GMK and rama are all bold or fonts that belong to Microsoft Yahei. As Chinese art, Chinese characters affect the entire East Asia, but they are not reflected a bit, which is too disappointing.
I guess you went to the bar many times in the evening in Houhai, Beijing. The spring, summer, autumn and winter of Houhai are actually black in your eyes. Or there is a possibility, color blindness.In addition, speaking of the Chinese characters on the lower keycap, one is why the numeric keys do not make traditional numbers and look more retro? The second is why all the Chinese characters of GMK and rama are all bold or fonts that belong to Microsoft Yahei. As Chinese art, Chinese characters affect the entire East Asia, but they are not reflected a bit, which is too disappointing.
did you just try to insult someone with color blindness? that's ridiculous. even if you don't like it just move along if you don't want to provide constructive criticism, jeez.
font is mostly to stick to GMK molds, as different fonts and legends will require new molds and higher costs.
I guess you went to the bar many times in the evening in Houhai, Beijing. The spring, summer, autumn and winter of Houhai are actually black in your eyes. Or there is a possibility, color blindness.In addition, speaking of the Chinese characters on the lower keycap, one is why the numeric keys do not make traditional numbers and look more retro? The second is why all the Chinese characters of GMK and rama are all bold or fonts that belong to Microsoft Yahei. As Chinese art, Chinese characters affect the entire East Asia, but they are not reflected a bit, which is too disappointing.
did you just try to insult someone with color blindness? that's ridiculous. even if you don't like it just move along if you don't want to provide constructive criticism, jeez.
font is mostly to stick to GMK molds, as different fonts and legends will require new molds and higher costs.
The comment was a bit over the top, but I also get the sense that people who are from China or the surrounding regions may have a different sense of pride associated with their critiques of these design choices.
I think everything looks great, but I am only ethnically Chinese and have lived in CONUS my whole life, and I am sure that affects my perspective.
I guess you went to the bar many times in the evening in Houhai, Beijing. The spring, summer, autumn and winter of Houhai are actually black in your eyes. Or there is a possibility, color blindness.In addition, speaking of the Chinese characters on the lower keycap, one is why the numeric keys do not make traditional numbers and look more retro? The second is why all the Chinese characters of GMK and rama are all bold or fonts that belong to Microsoft Yahei. As Chinese art, Chinese characters affect the entire East Asia, but they are not reflected a bit, which is too disappointing.
did you just try to insult someone with color blindness? that's ridiculous. even if you don't like it just move along if you don't want to provide constructive criticism, jeez.
font is mostly to stick to GMK molds, as different fonts and legends will require new molds and higher costs.
The comment was a bit over the top, but I also get the sense that people who are from China or the surrounding regions may have a different sense of pride associated with their critiques of these design choices.
I think everything looks great, but I am only ethnically Chinese and have lived in CONUS my whole life, and I am sure that affects my perspective.
sure i understand that. i'm chinese american and spent most of my life living in china. insulting someone over a keyset is uncalled for and unnecessary.
Taking the opportunity to reply to you again and apologizing to the author, this analogy is very inappropriate. As a Beijinger, I welcome you as a Chinese, and come back to Beijing to see your hometown. In addition, I want to express a point of view. I am very grateful to someone who promotes the customs of China, but please do not use a narrow style to name a place. This will cause a misleading. In fact, it is not the original way. It may be Houhai. The nightlife name is more accurate. In addition, I would like to talk about the use of Cangjie roots by the author. I am very grateful to him for combining simplified and traditional characters in the design. This is part of Chinese culture. As an American, he can design this way to promote Chinese culture. thank. On the other hand, some Chinese authors, or some Chinese Americans (grown in China), are extremely fond of using Japanese characters, which I personally cannot understand, especially in themes that have nothing to do with Japanese culture.I guess you went to the bar many times in the evening in Houhai, Beijing. The spring, summer, autumn and winter of Houhai are actually black in your eyes. Or there is a possibility, color blindness.In addition, speaking of the Chinese characters on the lower keycap, one is why the numeric keys do not make traditional numbers and look more retro? The second is why all the Chinese characters of GMK and rama are all bold or fonts that belong to Microsoft Yahei. As Chinese art, Chinese characters affect the entire East Asia, but they are not reflected a bit, which is too disappointing.
did you just try to insult someone with color blindness? that's ridiculous. even if you don't like it just move along if you don't want to provide constructive criticism, jeez.
font is mostly to stick to GMK molds, as different fonts and legends will require new molds and higher costs.
The comment was a bit over the top, but I also get the sense that people who are from China or the surrounding regions may have a different sense of pride associated with their critiques of these design choices.
I think everything looks great, but I am only ethnically Chinese and have lived in CONUS my whole life, and I am sure that affects my perspective.
I’d love to have a Chinese GMK keyset but in a less busy colorway like BoW :rolleyes: The set is more like Miami Night in terms of the theme and as much as I understand that it’s really too colorful for me. Good luck with the GB though!
However, what I can tell you is that when we release the WoB set (working title GMK Chine Noire), I will definitely design it to include a traditional mod kit, and as long as there is sufficient interest it will get made.
Hi everyone, looks like there's been some...uh...lively discussion on the thread! While I wish this set could be everything to everyone, it's not possible to make a set that pays homage to Houhai during all seasons and all times of day. Nighttime is the one that's the most visually striking to me and different enough from other existing sets...wouldn't want to make Mizu or Botanical again. I have had my color perception tested several times, though, and that came out A-OK. As far as the typeface for the Chinese characters, well, I'm the designer and I like them. I chose a clean and modern typeface (not MS Yahei btw) both to remain consistent with GMK Latin legends and because it's more likely to be flexible with future designs. And because that's what I like.
Anyway. To explain the lack of updates here, I've been hard at work on some elements of the WoB set with NathanAlphaMan, who is my partner on that project. He has been migrating our work into a new rendering tool that is far more capable and speedier than Fusion, and I spent the weekend creating new legends both for traditional Chinese character mods and for a new novelties set. Big ups to Alex at Zfrontier and Louis at iLumkb for their design ideas. Nathan and I will be revealing them soon in a new IC, most likely, but we will post here as well. GMK Houhai is still on, but it's looking like a longer term project.
Tell me: has anyone visited here, or wanted to?Show Image(https://livingnomads.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/fish-by-cormorant-fishermen-at-dusk-li-river-guilin-china-dan-y-7.jpg)
I'm def in on the canjie and the Chinese icon mods and spacebar set.
Any plans for an artesan cap? Rama's lunar new year gold/red cap was gorgeous, I'd love to see the novelty esc key in Alu! thoughts?
I'm def in on the canjie and the Chinese icon mods and spacebar set.
Any plans for an artesan cap? Rama's lunar new year gold/red cap was gorgeous, I'd love to see the novelty esc key in Alu! thoughts?
Definitely plant for artisans! I love that RAMA LNY. We’re really looking forward to working with Kate at RAMA on our artisan with them.
I'm def in on the canjie and the Chinese icon mods and spacebar set.
Any plans for an artesan cap? Rama's lunar new year gold/red cap was gorgeous, I'd love to see the novelty esc key in Alu! thoughts?
Definitely plant for artisans! I love that RAMA LNY. We’re really looking forward to working with Kate at RAMA on our artisan with them.
Yessss! Sounds amazing! Also, I just ordered a Think6.5v2 and would love to match badge colors, is the yellow you're going for going to be an E-yellow? If it is, I think it'll look stunning with it.
Edit: also any general estimates of when this may be ready for gb? Gotta save up!
I'm def in on the canjie and the Chinese icon mods and spacebar set.
Any plans for an artesan cap? Rama's lunar new year gold/red cap was gorgeous, I'd love to see the novelty esc key in Alu! thoughts?
Definitely plant for artisans! I love that RAMA LNY. We’re really looking forward to working with Kate at RAMA on our artisan with them.
Yessss! Sounds amazing! Also, I just ordered a Think6.5v2 and would love to match badge colors, is the yellow you're going for going to be an E-yellow? If it is, I think it'll look stunning with it.
Edit: also any general estimates of when this may be ready for gb? Gotta save up!
I only have a v1 badge, but if Graystudio used the same e-colors this time, it's a scary close match.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/t8HoCc2.jpg)
Wish I had more to report on the timing, hope to have news in the next week or two. The WoB set codenamed GMK Shanshui will have to happen first, and once that gets greenlighted, we will try to schedule Houhai.
I'm def in on the canjie and the Chinese icon mods and spacebar set.
Any plans for an artesan cap? Rama's lunar new year gold/red cap was gorgeous, I'd love to see the novelty esc key in Alu! thoughts?
Definitely plant for artisans! I love that RAMA LNY. We’re really looking forward to working with Kate at RAMA on our artisan with them.
Yessss! Sounds amazing! Also, I just ordered a Think6.5v2 and would love to match badge colors, is the yellow you're going for going to be an E-yellow? If it is, I think it'll look stunning with it.
Edit: also any general estimates of when this may be ready for gb? Gotta save up!
I only have a v1 badge, but if Graystudio used the same e-colors this time, it's a scary close match.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/t8HoCc2.jpg)
Wish I had more to report on the timing, hope to have news in the next week or two. The WoB set codenamed GMK Shanshui will have to happen first, and once that gets greenlighted, we will try to schedule Houhai.
Sounds good. Any novelties planned for WoB?
I literally started learning Chinese (and Cangjie) for this keyset. Given GMK turnaround I expect I'll be fluent by the time it arrives!
And quick update to kidviddy: Adding Adelie and Candybar support to GMK Shanshui, so I expect it to appear in Houhai as well. As long as we don't have to start getting into cost-cutting rekitting discussions, I really hope to provide support for these new layouts. It's just three keys per kit, after all.
Hey y'all, should have an update on this very soon. I'm hoping this weekend. And I would love to have a TGR Alice to work with, but I don't have access to STLs for that board. If someone else has a connect, feel free to make an introduction! I would love to have that board, or anything from TGR, as a render.
Hey y'all, should have an update on this very soon. I'm hoping this weekend. And I would love to have a TGR Alice to work with, but I don't have access to STLs for that board. If someone else has a connect, feel free to make an introduction! I would love to have that board, or anything from TGR, as a render.
Is the update on Houhai or Cangjie WoB? I remember you saying Cangjie WoB will come before Houhai on reddit?
Hey y'all, should have an update on this very soon. I'm hoping this weekend. And I would love to have a TGR Alice to work with, but I don't have access to STLs for that board. If someone else has a connect, feel free to make an introduction! I would love to have that board, or anything from TGR, as a render.
Is the update on Houhai or Cangjie WoB? I remember you saying Cangjie WoB will come before Houhai on reddit?
The updates are interrelated, so you can expect both. And yes, Cangjie WoB has vendors and a GB window, and will come first.
I was excited to see this set, until I saw the simplified Chinese mod paired with traditional Chinese alpha. I understand the reason behind it, but it just makes me think of ‘westernised’ chinese food. No offence.
I would definitely join if there’s a traditional Chinese mod kit - which Probably wouldn’t happen due to the cost.
Anything available in the WoB set will be, in all likelihood, available in Houhai. If we can get all the molds made using simple stock colors, I see no reason not to use them for the Houhai set for those who want them. I finished the Trad legends with Nathanalphaman last month and they look NICE. I took great care to ensure that there are alternate keys even when a stroke is at a slightly different angle or position in trad vs. SC as sometimes happens, not just when the character has additional strokes. I'll probably keep them on my personal board whenever they run.
Thanks to everyone for all the feedback. Trad is not necessarily something that matches the Houhai theme, but there's no reason not to make an effort to include it, especially in the WoB set, called GMK Shanshui, where it looks magnificent.
Really hoping to get the Shanshui IC off the ground this weekend. My partner has been a busy boy!
Anything available in the WoB set will be, in all likelihood, available in Houhai. If we can get all the molds made using simple stock colors, I see no reason not to use them for the Houhai set for those who want them. I finished the Trad legends with Nathanalphaman last month and they look NICE. I took great care to ensure that there are alternate keys even when a stroke is at a slightly different angle or position in trad vs. SC as sometimes happens, not just when the character has additional strokes. I'll probably keep them on my personal board whenever they run.
Thanks to everyone for all the feedback. Trad is not necessarily something that matches the Houhai theme, but there's no reason not to make an effort to include it, especially in the WoB set, called GMK Shanshui, where it looks magnificent.
Really hoping to get the Shanshui IC off the ground this weekend. My partner has been a busy boy!
Anything available in the WoB set will be, in all likelihood, available in Houhai. If we can get all the molds made using simple stock colors, I see no reason not to use them for the Houhai set for those who want them. I finished the Trad legends with Nathanalphaman last month and they look NICE. I took great care to ensure that there are alternate keys even when a stroke is at a slightly different angle or position in trad vs. SC as sometimes happens, not just when the character has additional strokes. I'll probably keep them on my personal board whenever they run.
Thanks to everyone for all the feedback. Trad is not necessarily something that matches the Houhai theme, but there's no reason not to make an effort to include it, especially in the WoB set, called GMK Shanshui, where it looks magnificent.
Really hoping to get the Shanshui IC off the ground this weekend. My partner has been a busy boy!
Update tonight or tomorrow :eek:Hype!
Before I remember Houhai gb time frame was January 2021. So this set is delayed and Shanshui replace on that time frame instead?
Hi grundlemere,
I just wanted to tell you how cool this set is and I'm definitely looking forward to buy this set including the novelties (thanks for including ISO!).
Really digging the color scheme. Made an account just to tell you.
Now I have an excuse to build my GF a mechanical keyboard and I can use the novelkeys for my black/gold dragon theme keyboard. :D
I bet she will love it as she writes lots of chinese fanfic lol.
I was always wondering why there are so many japanese keycap sets yet literally no chinese ones lol.
Keep up the cool work!
Will be buying this kit. The idea that I want the base, novelties, symbol caps, and space bars scares me.
Don't like Simplified Chinese
Simplified Chinese is not even real Chinese
I think the Taiwanese version with radicals (Zhuyin system) is most analogous to other East Asian alphabets, but I have yet to see any custom keycap sets designed with these subs.
This IC and the aforementioned Shanshui are in the Cangjie system. I think it looks more "Chinese" vs. the Zhuyin radical system.
Hi there. I would really like to buy this one and saw this one on keycapsets.com. Is this a trustworthy site or should I look for another one. Sorry if I sound rude or impolite I am very new to the keyboard scene and would really like this to be my first keycap set because it is beautiful!
It's nice to know I'll have over a year to find a good yellow keyboard to put this on.
no
no
Unfortunately tougher sell for me if it's canjie-only, but understand the constraints on the mfg. process. Ideally canjie+english alphas + numpad, icon mods.
Pioneering is never easy--nice work + hope the effort pays off!
Absolutely tingling with anticipation for this :)
This is the first set in some time that I'm actually excited about. Really really excited about!
I do not like this at all.... sorry.
I love this set, people should really use chinese sublegends more
Option 3 is definitely the way to go. loving the accent kits as well
GLWIC
It's Houhai I think this is a great concept for a set. Since I'm treeleaf I may not buy this set because I only am interested in things that are beige color
But I can tell you
Option 3 is the best base kit
congrats and glwgb on shansui! just wondering, will houhai only have chinese simplified mods? i love your work so much that im basically definitely going to join both shansui and houhai, but if houhai is only going to have simplified mods, i would then go for traditional chinese mods on shansui so i could have some variety. thanks!
congrats and glwgb on shansui! just wondering, will houhai only have chinese simplified mods? i love your work so much that im basically definitely going to join both shansui and houhai, but if houhai is only going to have simplified mods, i would then go for traditional chinese mods on shansui so i could have some variety. thanks!
That's a good question! I would like to offer trad mods too, could make for a cool HK vibe, but we will need to figure out kitting and costs first. No promises, but I did a lot of work on those 繁體字 legends, so I will want to use them if possible!
congrats and glwgb on shansui! just wondering, will houhai only have chinese simplified mods? i love your work so much that im basically definitely going to join both shansui and houhai, but if houhai is only going to have simplified mods, i would then go for traditional chinese mods on shansui so i could have some variety. thanks!
That's a good question! I would like to offer trad mods too, could make for a cool HK vibe, but we will need to figure out kitting and costs first. No promises, but I did a lot of work on those 繁體字 legends, so I will want to use them if possible!
gotcha thanks! i ended up joined for traditional base and all the other kits besides simplified, a deskmat, and 2 ramas. since houhai's original inspiration was beijing i'll just aim for the simplified kit here later this year. really excited!
Ahh! Let me preface this by saying, I'm very new to the keycaps/keyboard group buying game. New to the point where I've only started researching/purchasing cheaper mechanical keyboards around 2 months ago. I have seen keycaps of all different colorways on various sites, and have not jumped the gun in pre-ordering/purchasing them. One of the reasons is the price, the other is the long wait time. BUT LET ME JUST SAY, these are the first keycap sets that when I saw, I knew I had to buy. Mainly due to my soft spot for Beijing/Houhai area as well, as it contains so much good memories with my family when I was visiting in China. I remember the young violin girl in the alley playing, and the large amount of bars, and the colors! This set evoked those memories again for me, and those memories were from when I was in high school. Getting to visit those places made me see a whole new China that I had preconceived notions of since I did not grow up there.
I'm not sure how interest checks work, if it means you'll be making this set or not, but I really really really wish you will make this set. This will be my first set of official keycaps, and I'm willing to wait. I already linked this set to a couple of my friends for them to check out. Anyways, lots of support to you. I like option 2 the most, and I loveee the novelties. The colors are bang on especially the reds. For some reason I keep seeing the red lighted bars in houhai when I saw those red novelties.
Looking forward to any artisan keycaps, wrist rest, cables! Bring on everything! Love this!! All the best!
Wow bro, commenting as a Beijing native this set really captures the soul of 后海. I would not have imagined any English speaking person designing such fitting novelties (and kit names!). Looking forward to the GB
Hey everyone, the set will run starting May 31, 2021. I’m working with NathanAlphaMan on applying the retooled legends to this set, adjusting the colors slightly, and swapping in a few new novelties. Should have all new renders in a couple of weeks. Stay tuned!
Houhai is a good topic you used,
Kits are good
Is there a rama or salvun collab?
A 二锅头 one should be good,
Personally, I really enjoy your novelty.
A full of Beijing vibe,
Really excited.
Terrific idea with the coloring as well.
Oh I will definitely get maybe 2 sets.
For real :)
Cool work and
Nice job.
Is it just the renders or did you change the red a bit? It seems a lot brighter in the new renders than I remember compared to the older renders of the kit.
Hey Grundlemere, since there won't be English or Icon mods with this set for this run, could you give us a quick translation of all the modifiers contained in this set from Chinese to English?
I'm trying to Google around for those specific translations, but they seem to be really difficult to find... I'd like to learn them! :)
Edit: I do want to note that after searching around for about an hour, I haven't had any luck. Additionally, the Modifier keys on every reference for the Cangjie Input Method are literally just Icons only or using the literal English terms for those keys. There is no official Chinese characters for "Shift", "Ctrl", "Alt", "Enter"... I'm super serious. It's a bit strange! Which kind of sucks because you've clearly placed a lot of work into making the whole set shine! What do you think?
Edit 2: The most I could find for Chinese Modifier keys are listed for the Zhuyin Input Method... But even most modern incarnations of Zhuyin keyboards use Icons Only or English + Icons for Modifiers. I've honestly got no clue now.
The red was always supposed to be this color, but my render artist has developed his skills a lot in the past year and we are excited that these renders are much brighter and true to the physical samples.
The red was always supposed to be this color, but my render artist has developed his skills a lot in the past year and we are excited that these renders are much brighter and true to the physical samples.
Ah nice, that's pretty cool. Just curious (and forgive me if I missed it anywhere in the thread) but did you receive any samples yet? Was curious about some irl shots of the colors.
I have RAL and GMK physical color samples which I shared much earlier, but given the incredible speed with which counterfeits tend to show up on the market, I deleted them and have elected not to share the specific chosen colors with anyone other than manufacturers, vendors, and collaboration partners.Ah, that's fair, completely missed that update then. Oh well, thanks for the info.
Nice set here!
However I noticed that the “超级” is the same for both SC and TC set... Is that intentional?
In TC, it should be "超級"
SC “超级”
I was looking at the SC base kit in a little bit more detail. Is there a reason that the numpad isn't in simplified? I just thought if everything was simplified it would look more uniformed. Really looking forward to the set! Is there a plan for Rama collab?
This is looking Absolutely Beautiful, I've been keeping my eye on this for almost a year now, I'm SO excited it has a GB date, and with it being about a month off I'll be able to make sure I save and keep the money together.
Question, though. Do you have any artisans for this? I know I was hoping for a brass/alu red esc key novelty, but that's just me, haha. I'm seeing a lot of affiliate links, including custom aviators, but I'm not seeing any artisan caps? Am I just not looking in the right place or are there none??
thank you!:D
This is looking Absolutely Beautiful, I've been keeping my eye on this for almost a year now, I'm SO excited it has a GB date, and with it being about a month off I'll be able to make sure I save and keep the money together.
Question, though. Do you have any artisans for this? I know I was hoping for a brass/alu red esc key novelty, but that's just me, haha. I'm seeing a lot of affiliate links, including custom aviators, but I'm not seeing any artisan caps? Am I just not looking in the right place or are there none??
thank you!:D
Haven’t finalized them yet but they are coming!
This is looking Absolutely Beautiful, I've been keeping my eye on this for almost a year now, I'm SO excited it has a GB date, and with it being about a month off I'll be able to make sure I save and keep the money together.
Question, though. Do you have any artisans for this? I know I was hoping for a brass/alu red esc key novelty, but that's just me, haha. I'm seeing a lot of affiliate links, including custom aviators, but I'm not seeing any artisan caps? Am I just not looking in the right place or are there none??
thank you!:D
Haven’t finalized them yet but they are coming!
Nice! I'm really excited, have the price points been finalized at all? I'm trying to figure out how much to save, haha.
What is the difference between SC base kit and TC base kit?
Hey, do we still not have pricing on this set? Is it still happening on May 31st??
Discord Update
"Due to the novelty kit preserving the extra dark purple color from the original base kit design, the design and vendor team need additional time to evaluate pricing and quantity tiers. GMK Houhai will be pushed back by a little over a week to June 10, to end July 10. Thanks for your patience and as always, we will communicate any further information on design changes, timing, or pricing as soon as it becomes available."
Discord Update
"Due to the novelty kit preserving the extra dark purple color from the original base kit design, the design and vendor team need additional time to evaluate pricing and quantity tiers. GMK Houhai will be pushed back by a little over a week to June 10, to end July 10. Thanks for your patience and as always, we will communicate any further information on design changes, timing, or pricing as soon as it becomes available."
Do you have a discord link? I have been following this IC since last year and im glad it scoming to GB!
will there still be collab with rama on the artisan? Saw it was listed under collaboration list.
Any way to throw in some more 40 support? (R2 1.75u and R3 1.5u keys in addition to whats available). Personally would miss R3/home row 1.5u mod. Also dissapointed in abandoning *all-china all-in-one* kits. :confused:
GMK Y U DELAY?!?!!!???
Eh, I'm happy this is still on track for GB. I hope GMK might be able to resolve their issues soon!
No more delays, right Grundlemere?