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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 03 January 2018, 14:07:29 »
Up and up the bids go, where do you think they will say 'sold'?

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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 03 January 2018, 22:32:29 »
Around $150, I'm guessing.

That 2nd one looks unusually clean.
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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 22 January 2018, 02:04:30 »
Edit: Sold

Really clean Model F AT for $120 + shipping.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-Model-F-AT-KEYBOARD-P-N-6450200-for-IBM-5170-UNTESTED/391966182004?epid=1620960409&hash=item5b43014a74:g:Kj0AAOSwJc9aYh0n
Aaaand it's gone!

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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 17 February 2018, 14:29:42 »

Man, F AT's are going really well. And for good reason, they're such nice boards :) .

They are for sure. I have an F AT and do like it - but in truth it's sitting on the shelf right now - my XT, however, I use all the time. The XT just feels better to me.


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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 17 February 2018, 23:24:31 »
I was gonna tell everyone about that first one, which went for right around $100 shipped. But in the closeups, the plate looked especially dirty and/or corroded under the keys. So even if it had stayed in the $50-ish range, where it hovered for a while, I suspected it wouldn't be worth the extra work.
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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 18 February 2018, 09:23:42 »

I suspected it wouldn't be worth the extra work.


If it works, electrically, the only problem that can't be reasonably fixed, in my opinion, is corroded springs.

Otherwise, I assume that I am taking it completely apart and cleaning and fixing everything. A plate without rust is very much the exception.
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« Reply #11 on: Mon, 19 February 2018, 18:52:21 »
All three have been sold—the 2nd XT for right about where I predicted, and the A for $200! (both with shipping).
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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 15 March 2018, 22:58:39 »
This is going to go for a lot but this is most pristine AT I've ever seen. Stunning. I am so jealous of this eBay seller who has came across a hoard of keyboards from a old IBM research lab in New York. I would have hoarded them myself.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-1980s-IBM-AT-MODEL-F-KEYBOARD-CLICKY-84-KEY-cable-A-BEAUTY-IBM-PLANT-NY/263548294262?hash=item3d5cb3d476:g:23YAAOSwTmtaqvHD
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« Reply #14 on: Sun, 18 March 2018, 21:27:35 »
Here is a fresh one.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-MODEL-AT-KEYBOARD-PS-2-F2-TESTED-WORKS-AS-IS/382395429862?hash=item59088b33e6:g:ilcAAOSweD9alznh

Minty one - $$$
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-1980s-IBM-AT-MODEL-F-KEYBOARD-CLICKY-84-KEY-BUCKLING-SPRING-IBM-PLANT-NY/382395429535?hash=item59088b329f:g:YQgAAOSwkpValzOO

Sold for $185 and $225 respectively.


This is going to go for a lot but this is most pristine AT I've ever seen...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-1980s-IBM-AT-MODEL-F-KEYBOARD-CLICKY-84-KEY-cable-A-BEAUTY-IBM-PLANT-NY/263548294262?hash=item3d5cb3d476:g:23YAAOSwTmtaqvHD

Currently at $225 with 4 days to go.

And these were just $100 what, a year ago? If only I'd been able to convince my wife to let me buy more of them, rather than putting more of our dough in mutual funds... Well, the funds did okay, but they haven't doubled over. Which is what most of us are probably doing when we see these now.  :?|
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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 20 March 2018, 18:36:46 »

Currently at $225 with 4 days to go.

And these were just $100 what, a year ago? If only I'd been able to convince my wife to let me buy more of them, rather than putting more of our dough in mutual funds... Well, the funds did okay, but they haven't doubled over. Which is what most of us are probably doing when we see these now.  :?|

Eh...more like $150-200 a year ago. There was a dry spell of these for a bit. Don't expect to see other AT's sell as high as this one since it appears to be in brand new condition.
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« Reply #16 on: Wed, 21 March 2018, 18:24:08 »
Eh...more like $150-200 a year ago...

You're probably right. When you get to be my age, it's hard to be sure how long ago a lot of stuff was because your life encompasses such a wide swath of human history.
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« Reply #17 on: Wed, 21 March 2018, 18:25:12 »
Still, a 50%/year return isn't bad, either.
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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 23 March 2018, 04:12:39 »
It went for +$700 ...

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« Reply #19 on: Fri, 23 March 2018, 07:51:52 »
Absolutely insane price. More like $750 with shipping. Must have been a good bidding war. I expected $4-500 at best.
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« Reply #20 on: Sun, 25 March 2018, 11:09:26 »
Absolutely insane price. More like $750 with shipping. Must have been a good bidding war. I expected $4-500 at best.

I'm not gonna lie, out of my 4 model fs, the AT is my least favorite. I haven't tried a battleship or an unsaver, but I'd probably like the more to be honest. I really couldn't imagine myself paying more than about 80 for one (bought mine for 60 a year ago), let alone 700.
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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 28 March 2018, 07:54:42 »
I still wonder what these high-dollar buyers are using these for and where the buyers are coming from.

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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 28 March 2018, 21:02:49 »
Well whoever bought this one was a serious die-hard IBM collector. The same kind of collector that would pay 10x the value of a common keyboard because it has some super low serial number or spend $2k on an unsaver or beamspring. There was no expectation of purchasing it to ever make a profit but to be an exemplar specimen in a private collection which will not be posted anywhere online for our purview. It basically will sit in a shelf or display and will hardly if ever be used to preserve it's condition, like a time capsule. These buyers could be from anywhere. This hobby has become more mainstream and vintage gear has become more sought after. Sometimes though it is easier though to spend the cash to reach end game levels rather than wait for good deals to come by.
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« Reply #23 on: Thu, 29 March 2018, 06:44:12 »

Sometimes though it is easier though to spend the cash to reach end game levels rather than wait for good deals to come by.


Not that I buy this sort of thing, but personally I would probably spend more on a Buy-It-Now "sure thing" than put in a bid on an auction.

Ebay's advice tries to encourage the opposite.
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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 29 March 2018, 08:00:09 »
Well whoever bought this one was a serious die-hard IBM collector. The same kind of collector that would pay 10x the value of a common keyboard because it has some super low serial number or spend $2k on an unsaver or beamspring. There was no expectation of purchasing it to ever make a profit but to be an exemplar specimen in a private collection which will not be posted anywhere online for our purview. It basically will sit in a shelf or display and will hardly if ever be used to preserve it's condition, like a time capsule. These buyers could be from anywhere. This hobby has become more mainstream and vintage gear has become more sought after. Sometimes though it is easier though to spend the cash to reach end game levels rather than wait for good deals to come by.
Interesting.  So one of the drivers might be a 'shortcut' to the end game by sheer moolah?  I never thought of it, but it does make sense.

Still, the sheer number of these high sales prices makes me wonder how many people with that type of money are out there and where they hail from.

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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 29 March 2018, 08:57:29 »
Well whoever bought this one was a serious die-hard IBM collector. The same kind of collector that would pay 10x the value of a common keyboard because it has some super low serial number or spend $2k on an unsaver or beamspring. There was no expectation of purchasing it to ever make a profit but to be an exemplar specimen in a private collection which will not be posted anywhere online for our purview. It basically will sit in a shelf or display and will hardly if ever be used to preserve it's condition, like a time capsule. These buyers could be from anywhere. This hobby has become more mainstream and vintage gear has become more sought after. Sometimes though it is easier though to spend the cash to reach end game levels rather than wait for good deals to come by.
Interesting.  So one of the drivers might be a 'shortcut' to the end game by sheer moolah?  I never thought of it, but it does make sense.

Still, the sheer number of these high sales prices makes me wonder how many people with that type of money are out there and where they hail from.

I would characterize these individuals as single males in their late 20's or early 30's with zero children who make a solid income, likely through some sort of tech career. These individuals likely lurk the Deskthority forum as their interest is in vintage gear rather than customs or artisan keys.
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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 29 March 2018, 09:50:13 »
$2k on an unsaver

Now hang on a sec here. Is there a record of one actually going for that much?

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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #27 on: Thu, 29 March 2018, 10:17:50 »
$2k on an unsaver

Now hang on a sec here. Is there a record of one actually going for that much?

Here ya go.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MINT-Vintage-IBM-APL-Model-F-Mechanical-Keyboard-Unsaver-with-USB-controller/253254760732?hash=item3af728f91c:g:9eoAAOSwoR9aB98K

There was a couple high dollar beamsprings that sold. The highest was $2500.

Also a space cadet just sold for $2800 USD.

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« Reply #28 on: Thu, 29 March 2018, 11:58:01 »
$2k on an unsaver

Now hang on a sec here. Is there a record of one actually going for that much?

Here ya go.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/MINT-Vintage-IBM-APL-Model-F-Mechanical-Keyboard-Unsaver-with-USB-controller/253254760732?hash=item3af728f91c:g:9eoAAOSwoR9aB98K

There was a couple high dollar beamsprings that sold. The highest was $2500.

Also a space cadet just sold for $2800 USD.



Wow. And it's the 5085(I think) variant with the D-subs too. Utterly useless to the average person until xwhatsit's controller went into it.

I remember these days.
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« Reply #29 on: Sun, 01 April 2018, 03:41:26 »
Absolutely insane price. More like $750 with shipping. Must have been a good bidding war. I expected $4-500 at best.

I'm not gonna lie, out of my 4 model fs, the AT is my least favorite. I haven't tried a battleship or an unsaver, but I'd probably like [them] more to be honest...

Even ANSI-modded?  ;?)


Well whoever bought this one was a serious die-hard IBM collector. The same kind of collector that would pay 10x the value of a common keyboard because it has some super low serial number or spend $2k on an unsaver or beamspring... These buyers could be from anywhere. This hobby has become more mainstream and vintage gear has become more sought after...

Interesting... Still, the sheer number of these high sales prices makes me wonder how many people with that type of money are out there and where they hail from.

Mostly China, I'm thinking.

Since the Reagan administration allowed U.S. companies to move virtually all of their manufacturing jobs East, the an unimaginable amount of dough has flooded the PRC (whose government, BTW, has taken advantage of this opportunity to finance the biggest military buildup in history).

It's hard for us to imagine how many people are in the PRC. Each year, my sister-in-law teaches English in what they consider a "medium-sized" city. It has the same population as greater Los Angeles.

As these great old boards steadily travel East, KB fans there are catching on. And many of them have the dough, and more, to pay the kinds of prices we're seeing now.
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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 02 April 2018, 10:09:57 »
I would characterize these individuals as single males in their late 20's or early 30's with zero children who make a solid income, likely through some sort of tech career. These individuals likely lurk the Deskthority forum as their interest is in vintage gear rather than customs or artisan keys.
Mostly China, I'm thinking.

Since the Reagan administration allowed U.S. companies to move virtually all of their manufacturing jobs East, the an unimaginable amount of dough has flooded the PRC (whose government, BTW, has taken advantage of this opportunity to finance the biggest military buildup in history).

It's hard for us to imagine how many people are in the PRC. Each year, my sister-in-law teaches English in what they consider a "medium-sized" city. It has the same population as greater Los Angeles.

As these great old boards steadily travel East, KB fans there are catching on. And many of them have the dough, and more, to pay the kinds of prices we're seeing now.

These are two very interesting possible demographics that are amazingly distinct.

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« Reply #31 on: Mon, 02 April 2018, 11:34:31 »
I would surmise that in general most boards sold by non-collectors on eBay tend to stay in the U.S. since many sellers tend to not offer international shipping. Of course some go to Europe and China, but there are plenty of folks in the U.S. who will pay a lot for some unicorn keyboard.

Oh and of course, the NIB AT already posted here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94965.0
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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 02 April 2018, 23:58:13 »
I would surmise that in general most boards sold by non-collectors on eBay tend to stay in the U.S. since many sellers tend to not offer international shipping...

That's not going to hold someone back with these kinds of resources. I once sold an accordion to someone in New Jersey who was actually buying it for someone in Brazil.
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« Reply #35 on: Sat, 12 May 2018, 04:54:36 »
It went for $177. Not that bad a price for an F AT, I'd say.
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« Reply #37 on: Thu, 24 May 2018, 00:11:45 »
Nice photography. Unlike so many videos, there's not so many quick cuts to distract you from the music. I really like the blonde at 0:46. That is all.
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« Reply #40 on: Mon, 05 November 2018, 23:13:19 »
Pretty yummy.  How much do these things go for these days?  I still don't have one of these metal beauties.

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« Reply #42 on: Tue, 06 November 2018, 23:25:55 »
So, are we done talking about the blond?
I re-read the entire thread to make sure I didn't miss it.  Spoiler alert--there's no blond.


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« Reply #43 on: Wed, 07 November 2018, 05:52:11 »
The blond is not in this thread.
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« Reply #44 on: Wed, 07 November 2018, 20:46:33 »
The blond is not in this thread.
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omg that thread is epic

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« Reply #47 on: Thu, 08 November 2018, 10:16:49 »
Okay, find some more F ATs  b/c my financial lady says my current spending habits are viable. 

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« Reply #48 on: Thu, 08 November 2018, 16:35:06 »
Dudes! I'm talking about the blonde (and I left out the E) in the video JP included in his post here in this thread.

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« Reply #49 on: Fri, 09 November 2018, 14:23:09 »
Dudes! I'm talking about the blonde (and I left out the E) in the video JP included in his post here in this thread.

Leave us not get our blondes confused. They're confused enough.

 :)) I forgot about her.
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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 09 November 2018, 14:55:49 »
So, say I came across a model F AT with a cut cord.  How would I go about converting it to USB?  Any links?  Can solder.

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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 09 November 2018, 15:09:56 »
So, say I came across a model F AT with a cut cord.  How would I go about converting it to USB?  Any links?  Can solder.

You can get the xwhatsit for the ATs, which is nice. Kinda want to get an AT because of how much easier the layout is to use compared to the XT I sold due to layout issues.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Xwhatsit-IBM-Model-F-USB-Keyboard-Controller-AT-F62-F107-F122-Unsaver-USB-CABLE/302426372578?hash=item466a0439e2:g:jM4AAOSwz2tZnusy:sc:USPSFirstClass!77065!US!-1:rk:1:pf:0

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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 09 November 2018, 15:13:14 »
Well there are normally 2 ways to convert these. Orihalcon sells converters to convert XT'S to USB which also work on these AT's. I think a cheaper active ps2 to USB adapter will work on these also. A replacement cable can be easily sourced I'm sure. Somebody will have one or you can adapt one from a different keyboard. The second option is to desolder the controller and solder in an xwhatsit for the model f which Orihalcon also sells.
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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 09 November 2018, 15:27:41 »
Thanks guys.  I believe I have a cable that I can use to test it, and then if it works I'll pick up the Xwhatsit controller for full conversion.

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« Reply #54 on: Fri, 09 November 2018, 15:34:27 »
Also, would you all think less of me if I painted it a deep burgundy color? 

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« Reply #55 on: Fri, 09 November 2018, 15:35:58 »
Also, would you all think less of me if I painted it a deep burgundy color?

Maybe...so much so that you would have to send me the board for free to deal with the sin, I promise to rehabilitate it, keep it warm, and provide a nice environment for it to thrive. :P

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« Reply #56 on: Fri, 09 November 2018, 15:44:56 »
Also, would you all think less of me if I painted it a deep burgundy color?

Maybe...so much so that you would have to send me the board for free to deal with the sin, I promise to rehabilitate it, keep it warm, and provide a nice environment for it to thrive. :P

I second that motion  :)
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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 09 November 2018, 16:29:07 »
Also, would you all think less of me if I painted it a deep burgundy color? 

A nice paint job may be the best way to conceal a repair. That is why I used Dupli-Color charcoal gray on a few of my F-122 rehabs.
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« Reply #58 on: Fri, 09 November 2018, 16:39:07 »
Also, would you all think less of me if I painted it a deep burgundy color? 

A nice paint job may be the best way to conceal a repair. That is why I used Dupli-Color charcoal gray on a few of my F-122 rehabs.

Yep.  I was going to use that Burgundy Duplicolor.  I used the blue on a Dell Bigfoot and I love the way it turned out.

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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #62 on: Tue, 20 November 2018, 22:17:56 »
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« Reply #63 on: Wed, 21 November 2018, 16:49:49 »
I would consider an AT to be worth at least 3X what an XT fetches, being an infinitely better layout and an order of magnitude more rare.
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« Reply #64 on: Sat, 01 December 2018, 03:00:12 »
:)) I forgot about her.

Dude, MKs are great and all, but I suspect you need to get out more.
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« Reply #65 on: Sat, 01 December 2018, 09:16:35 »
:)) I forgot about her.

Dude, MKs are great and all, but I suspect you need to get out more.

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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #66 on: Sun, 09 December 2018, 02:34:40 »


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« Reply #67 on: Sun, 09 December 2018, 10:14:50 »
I like where this thread is going  ;D
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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #71 on: Fri, 14 December 2018, 20:00:30 »
F-AT BIN
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-IBM-Personal-Computer-AT-Model-F-Mechanical-Buckling-Spring-Keyboard-Clicky/173691734228?hash=item2870d588d4:g:6egAAOSwVH9cFCX4:rk:1:pf:0

Noooooo.  I ate dinner and missed it.

I am kinda happy someone did before I did...I wanted it so bad but don't really have the money to be spending on keyboards atm, even if I really want to spend money for stupid reasons lol.

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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #72 on: Fri, 14 December 2018, 20:28:05 »
I am kinda happy someone did before I did...I wanted it so bad but don't really have the money to be spending on keyboards atm, even if I really want to spend money for stupid reasons lol.

Interestingly, with some minor changes, that's just the sort of thing we might say when we do buy keebs:

I am kinda happy no one [bought it] before I did... I wanted it so bad even though I didn't really have the money to be spending on keyboards atm, but I really wanted to spend money for stupid reasons lol.


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« Reply #75 on: Wed, 19 December 2018, 00:11:52 »
Okay, okay—let's not go crazy here.  :?)
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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #77 on: Fri, 21 December 2018, 05:17:22 »
It seemed like just another GH thread.

Little did anyone realize it would become...



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It seemed like just another GH thread.

Little did anyone realize it would become...



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Don't you mean YET ANOTHER THREAD THAT WOULDN'T DIE ;D

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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #79 on: Fri, 21 December 2018, 11:16:55 »
There is nothing wrong with keeping this alive, Model Fs need homes and I still don't own a F AT, this thread essentially is daring me to spend over 200$ for one every time i look it at and regret that I didn't grab one for 100-150$ 5 years back

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« Reply #80 on: Fri, 21 December 2018, 11:35:16 »
There is nothing wrong with keeping this alive, Model Fs need homes and I still don't own a F AT, this thread essentially is daring me to spend over 200$ for one every time i look it at and regret that I didn't grab one for 100-150$ 5 years back

Don't fret too much, they still come up for sale in that price range ($100-150) but as a BIN style listing and they sell pretty quick. I was even able to snag an F AT on eBay for $70 shipped just this year although was missing 1 key and the badge which I had replacements from a parts board.

With the AT being significantly more rare than the XT I felt this keyboard deserved it's own spotlight. I don't post every AT that I come across but usually the better deals but there are certainly dry spells as far as these coming up for sale.

Here is one for today, quite expensive but with all the bells and whistles (ANSI modded, Soarers controller, new foam).
https://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-F-AT-Converted-with-Soarers-converter-ANSI-modded-new-foam-and-more/323602397271?hash=item4b5834b857:g:ZRMAAOSw8VtcFlW0:rk:2:pf:0

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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #81 on: Fri, 21 December 2018, 17:45:02 »
I find it sad to see that so many people rape their Model Fs with ANSI Enter keys. That's like whipping toddlers.
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« Reply #82 on: Fri, 21 December 2018, 18:25:58 »

Don't fret too much, they still come up for sale in that price range ($100-150) but as a BIN style listing and they sell pretty quick. I was even able to snag an F AT on eBay for $70 shipped just this year although was missing 1 key and the badge which I had replacements from a parts board.

The badge is replaceable? Is it just glued on with adhesive? I got an F AT coming in the mail that has some scuffs on the badge, though I’m unsure where to source another badge without getting another board, as you’ve done.


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« Reply #83 on: Fri, 21 December 2018, 19:17:24 »
The badge is replaceable? Is it just glued on with adhesive? I got an F AT coming in the mail that has some scuffs on the badge, though I’m unsure where to source another badge without getting another board, as you’ve done.

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Yes, it is glued on with adhesive or some sort of double-sided tape. There isn't exactly a vendor where you can go simply add one to your shopping cart. They can be reproduced though. Something like this is on my list of things to look into further. I want to paint one of my F-AT's in rough condition with an industrial gray paint and have a special black industrial badge made up for it.

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Re: Yet Another Model F AT (Yamfat)
« Reply #84 on: Fri, 21 December 2018, 21:50:11 »
Don't you mean YET ANOTHER THREAD THAT WOULDN'T DIE ;D

Probably!


There is nothing wrong with keeping this alive, Model Fs need homes and I still don't own a F AT...

Sure, a pseudo-sticky F-AT thread is fine—enough people are seeking them. Rather than tacking it onto an existing thread like this one, tho, suppose we start a new one just for that, so everyone understands what it is?

Okay, I've started one. Please post further AT sales in this special AT-seekers's thread, rather than here. Thanks!


...I still don't own a F AT, this thread essentially is daring me to spend over 200$ for one every time i look it at and regret that I didn't grab one for 100-150$ 5 years back

That sounds about right.  :?)


With the AT being significantly more rare than the XT I felt this keyboard deserved it's own spotlight. I don't post every AT that I come across but usually the better deals but there are certainly dry spells as far as these coming up for sale.

See above. I wasn't throwing water on the general idea of AT-seeking; I just thought we could be more organized about it.


I find it sad to see that so many people rape their Model Fs with ANSI Enter keys...

Dude, fact is, people can and will do whatever they wish with their own stuff. There'll always be an overwhelming number of unmodified F's, so I don't think there's any danger of us forgetting how they originally were.

Meanwhile, if such mods encourage people to use great old keyboards, that's what they were made for, IMHO—tools first, collector's items second.
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« Reply #85 on: Fri, 21 December 2018, 23:36:19 »
Alright this thread is officially dead now. It was a good run. Please vacate the premises.
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« Reply #86 on: Sat, 22 December 2018, 06:16:56 »
Yes, it is glued on with adhesive or some sort of double-sided tape. There isn't exactly a vendor where you can go simply add one to your shopping cart. They can be reproduced though. Something like this is on my list of things to look into further. I want to paint one of my F-AT's in rough condition with an industrial gray paint and have a special black industrial badge made up for it.

That sounds like a fun project, hope it turns out amazing!


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