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Offline BobbyUK

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« on: Sat, 24 March 2012, 10:43:21 »
What you guy's think of the new gfx card, worth getting?

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« Reply #1 on: Sat, 24 March 2012, 11:23:18 »
It's a beast. But performance per dollar is always the worst on high end so idk if the value is there. I've been drooling over all the reviews but I can't drop 500 on a gpu again. Did it once with a 580.

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« Reply #2 on: Sat, 24 March 2012, 11:34:11 »
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It's a beast. But performance per dollar is always the worst on high end so idk if the value is there. I've been drooling over all the reviews but I can't drop 500 on a gpu again. Did it once with a 580.

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« Reply #3 on: Sat, 24 March 2012, 14:55:02 »
They emulated ATI really hard with this one. I would still get it if I bought high-end, because single-GPU is always the best (read: 100% compatibility) option for gaming.

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« Reply #4 on: Sat, 24 March 2012, 16:27:24 »
Don't know if I should go for it or wait for non reference card, what you guys think?

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« Reply #5 on: Sat, 24 March 2012, 17:27:03 »
I'm drooling over it right now, would love to upgrade my 5850CF setup to a single-card beast.  I think I'm going to wait a bit to see if price wars ensue, and the rumor is that the 680 is really nvidia's new budget card, but amd is so far behind that nvidia held off on releasing the new flagship with a 384-bit memory interface (the 680 only has a 256-bit interface).

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« Reply #6 on: Sat, 24 March 2012, 17:46:21 »
Wait for PCIE 3, especially if you have bought a card in the past 2 years.

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« Reply #7 on: Sat, 24 March 2012, 22:03:22 »
there are already pcie3.0 boards.
good to see that the new cards are 4k compatible maybe well start seeing 4k displays soon. 1080 is so pixelated :P
gotta wait till after vacation next month to get my 680 if thats still the fastest then and gonna get me a i7 3930 6 core to go with it.

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« Reply #8 on: Sat, 24 March 2012, 23:35:38 »
Very nice for midrange silicon. So nice they decided to launch it as flagship. Good for their bottom line, sucks for us consumers. I am gonna wait for big daddy Kepler to upgrade my gaming machine.

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« Reply #9 on: Sun, 25 March 2012, 00:02:47 »
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there are already pcie3.0 boards.


There are a couple of first gen Intel boards yes, but there are no AMD boards yet. There aren't likely to be any soon either. Given the experiences I have had with Intel integrated graphics, I am avoiding Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge. Intel has always been good at number crunching, but AMD has always been able to provide more bang for the buck. Intel's new 3D transistors do look very interesting though.

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« Reply #10 on: Sun, 25 March 2012, 09:55:42 »
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There are a couple of first gen Intel boards yes, but there are no AMD boards yet. There aren't likely to be any soon either. Given the experiences I have had with Intel integrated graphics, I am avoiding Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge. Intel has always been good at number crunching, but AMD has always been able to provide more bang for the buck. Intel's new 3D transistors do look very interesting though.

This used to be true with amd. But with the price of the 2500k I can't see any reason to build an amd rig. Even at a lower price point the i3s dominate. Even without overclocking.

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« Reply #11 on: Sun, 25 March 2012, 10:07:58 »
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This used to be true with amd. But with the price of the 2500k I can't see any reason to build an amd rig. Even at a lower price point the i3s dominate. Even without overclocking.

Well, now they have the 2550k, and with the promo code it's actually cheaper then the 2500k.

I've decided the next card I buy I want to go completely insane, so I'm waiting for the overclocked, water cooled GTX 690 to come out.
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« Reply #12 on: Sun, 25 March 2012, 10:25:44 »
Or just water cool and oc it yourself ;)

These 680s look awesome. But with sli 460s I can play bf3 great at 1080p. So I'm having a hard time convincing myself. Now a used 580 seems to be the ticket right now. That's what my eye is on.

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« Reply #13 on: Sun, 25 March 2012, 10:31:31 »
Normally I am a DIY kind of guy, but with cards at $600+, I'd much prefer the manufacturers handle it.
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« Reply #14 on: Sun, 25 March 2012, 13:00:52 »
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This used to be true with amd. But with the price of the 2500k I can't see any reason to build an amd rig. Even at a lower price point the i3s dominate. Even without overclocking.


I would love to see some bench marks proving that!

Have a look through these : http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

As for overclocking, it is hardly worth the effort anymore, I haven't seriously overclocked a system in 10 years.

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« Reply #15 on: Sun, 25 March 2012, 14:32:16 »
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I would love to see some bench marks proving that!

Have a look through these : http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

As for overclocking, it is hardly worth the effort anymore, I haven't seriously overclocked a system in 10 years.
Free 30% performance gain on i5 why would you not overclock. The i3 2100 is right there with the phenom quads. Better power consumption better platform.

And at 180 tell me a better bang for your buck than the 2500k.

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« Reply #16 on: Sun, 25 March 2012, 18:37:26 »
Certainly, AMD A8-3870, it's a quad core and not only does it out preform the i3 - 2100 stock, it also comes close to the i5-2500, and it also has a built in DirectX 11 APU that can Crossfire with almost any AMD video card. Newegg currently has them for $139. And from what I hear it overclocks fairly well as well.

 Overclocking can give you a good preformance boost for sure, it can also drastically reduce the life of both your CPU and motherboard. Overclocking is fun and all, but there is no challenge in it for me anymore, all you have to do nowadays is toggle a couple of BIOS settings and reboot, hardly a challenge. De-soldering and replacing IC's, boosting voltages by hand and replacing caps, etching new pathways ...now THAT is a challenge!

But anyway, it was not my intention to hijack this thread, the Nvidia 680 is a nice card, but I don't think the gain in performance justifies the $500 price tag, at least not until there are more PCIE 3 boards out there and the tech has been refined.
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« Reply #17 on: Sun, 25 March 2012, 20:47:56 »
Lol think ill stick with my 580..
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« Reply #18 on: Sun, 25 March 2012, 22:00:49 »
Don't distract by the marketing hype, wait till all non-reference card price war begins.

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« Reply #19 on: Mon, 26 March 2012, 13:59:55 »
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Very nice for midrange silicon. So nice they decided to launch it as flagship. Good for their bottom line, sucks for us consumers. I am gonna wait for big daddy Kepler to upgrade my gaming machine.
Exactly, what's up with that?  I was expecting them to come out with a 560 Ti replacement from all the rumours beforehand, and the fact it's GK104.  I'm waiting for the GK110 to come out (unless it's cancelled), then I'll pick up a GK104 based card (probably a slightly crippled 680, whatever they badge it as) at the non-inflated price point.  I really don't want to buy an AMD card again for the third time running. Nvidia always gives me slightly less grief with drivers and such, but their overall efforts when it comes to performance-per-dollar, heat, power, etc. have been pathetic compared to AMD in recent years.
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« Reply #20 on: Wed, 28 March 2012, 06:26:21 »
On the note of heat, AMD and NVIDIA are pretty much equal this generation. On terms of power consumption NVIDIA (at least with the 680) is actually doing better than AMD's lineup.

Performance per dollar can't really be judged yet since only the reference flagship has been released. Give it another few months.

On terms of drivers, NVIDIA always is ahead of AMD. AMD/ATI has always had issues with drivers on the Windows front, but when it comes to the Linux front there is simply no competition, NVIDIA wins hands down. AMD's open source implementation is getting better but it's nowhere near NVIDIA's proprietary. I haven't actually seen a comparison between nouveau (NVIDIA open source) and AMD's open source yet, though. Must research that.

I'll also say that price/performance-wise, NVIDIA has had two major killers in the past two generations, namely the 460 1GB (non-SE goes for $120 or less now, I've seen them as low as $90) and 560 Ti. Anything higher and NVIDIA tends to be more expensive but at the $120 and $220 price points, NVIDIA easily takes the lead.
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« Reply #21 on: Wed, 28 March 2012, 08:04:02 »
Well, not anymore obviously, since the 7850 came out, with better FPS than the 560 Ti and about $20 cheaper. That's what bothers me this time round as well, by the time the midrange Keplers are out it'll only be a few months until AMD releases something better/cheaper/cooler/less thirsty again, with Nvidia still playing catch-up.

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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 28 March 2012, 08:42:11 »
7870 seems like a great card. 580 performance for about $350. I would buy one but I'm done dealing with AMD cards. Had crossfire 6950's and overclocking them was a pain in the ass. Sucks because amd has some good stuff out right now but I'm just not messing with them again. I know I will regret it later.

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« Reply #23 on: Wed, 28 March 2012, 11:44:22 »
worth it or not will depend on what you do with it. For most people it is not worth it, especially when most game's sys requirement are still constrained by the console (i say this is a good thing). nVidia almost never make significant profit off of their top end products. It is more of a statement for the company: "just because we can." Main stream lines along the numbering of 650~670s will be where u (or most people) get the most p/c and where the company makes the most money out of.
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« Reply #24 on: Wed, 28 March 2012, 12:08:29 »
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worth it or not will depend on what you do with it. For most people it is not worth it, especially when most game's sys requirement are still constrained by the console (i say this is a good thing). nVidia almost never make significant profit off of their top end products. It is more of a statement for the company: "just because we can." Main stream lines along the numbering of 650~670s will be where u (or most people) get the most p/c and where the company makes the most money out of.

Well the 680 was originally the replacement for the 560ti, so I would say they are making some good profit.

Regardless of what your need may be. The top card is never a good buy as far as performance per dollar. Thats just the way it is. You need to pay to have the best. I learned already when I dropped $500 on a 580. But right now imo they are the sweet spot for nvidia. (at used prices)

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« Reply #25 on: Wed, 28 March 2012, 14:28:01 »
From what hear, there's limited amount of 680 chips available. Given how fast these are selling out, it was probably wise to launch them at 500 dollars (for nV) and milk the market for a bit. They would have sold out even faster at lower price point and less money in the pocket for them and the OEMs.

Anyone else look forward to a GX2 card with a pair of these? That would be a beastly card.

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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 06:36:40 »
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Well, not anymore obviously, since the 7850 came out, with better FPS than the 560 Ti and about $20 cheaper. That's what bothers me this time round as well, by the time the midrange Keplers are out it'll only be a few months until AMD releases something better/cheaper/cooler/less thirsty again, with Nvidia still playing catch-up.

It's not really fair to judge NVIDIA's consistency with this kind of thing with past generation cards. We'll see how the 660 (or whatever) pans out.
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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 29 March 2012, 16:21:37 »
Do you work for Nvidia or own a bunch of shares or something? I've already said I'd prefer to buy one of their cards this time round, but they've consistently let AMD beat them (with maybe a few exceptions before AMD closed the gap again, a la the 560 Ti until the 7850).  It's a pretty fair assessment.

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« Reply #28 on: Fri, 30 March 2012, 06:22:30 »
Neither, and I have GPUs and CPUs from both brands.

I wasn't going against you, your word, or your opinion - I was simply pointing out that it's not fair to assume something will happen because it has happened in the past in an ever-changing industry like we have here. I'm not saying it can't happen, I'm just saying it's not right to think that it will.
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