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Title: From the Colemak forum...
Post by: Input Nirvana on Mon, 07 November 2011, 22:49:53
These guys have some really interesting stuff not necessarily Colemak...

http://forum.colemak.com/viewtopic.php?id=1098

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Notice all the keys the thumbs can use...

Other than it being in French.... :)
Title: From the Colemak forum...
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 07 November 2011, 23:02:13
I rather like the pinky-arrangement.

Though it looks difficult to make with mechanical keyswitches.
Title: From the Colemak forum...
Post by: cactux on Mon, 07 November 2011, 23:08:49
Quote from: input nirvana;447802

Other than it being in French.... :)

J'aime bien le français :laugh:
Title: From the Colemak forum...
Post by: dorkvader on Mon, 07 November 2011, 23:42:42
Quote from: cactux;447808
J'aime bien le français :laugh:
Je parle un peu de Français.

Looking it over again, It does look pretty interesting. I supposed this is suppsode to be a sort of kinesis-style 3D layout? otherwise, I don't think my thumbs would be able to reach all that.

There's also some wide layouts somewhere in the colemak forum that looked cool.
Title: From the Colemak forum...
Post by: Lanx on Tue, 08 November 2011, 09:41:44
looks like a truelyergonomic with a twist...(literally they just curve it inwards) i think it still fails, i mean once you use a kinesis... having pinky do enter... is so 20th century.
Title: From the Colemak forum...
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 08 November 2011, 10:28:28
Quote from: Lanx;447955
looks like a truelyergonomic with a twist...(literally they just curve it inwards) i think it still fails, i mean once you use a kinesis... having pinky do enter... is so 20th century.
Reminds me more of MALTRON layout, with the E on the thumb and all.

I sort of like having all the punctuation easily-accessible, though. It's one thing I really like about Dvorak.
What do you think of having the symbols (on the number row) shuffled around like that?
Title: From the Colemak forum...
Post by: oneproduct on Tue, 08 November 2011, 10:47:37
Love the fusion between Linux, Windows and Mac on the Super key lol
Title: From the Colemak forum...
Post by: Input Nirvana on Tue, 08 November 2011, 11:15:49
Quote from: oneproduct;447985
Love the fusion between Linux, Windows and Mac on the Super key lol

I would like the penguin IN the basket :)
Title: From the Colemak forum...
Post by: oneproduct on Tue, 08 November 2011, 18:42:48
I think that the shift keys (Maj in French here) still need to remain on the pinkies (though the pinky buttons could be placed in an easy to reach place as they are on the Kinesis). The problem with the way it is now is that about 25% of the time (based on the frequency of the first letter of words in English) you are going to be hitting space and then left shift with your left thumb in a row and same finger usage is one of the least desirable things.
Title: From the Colemak forum...
Post by: dorkvader on Tue, 08 November 2011, 18:48:40
Quote from: oneproduct;447985
Love the fusion between Linux, Windows and Mac on the Super key lol

Quote from: input nirvana;448002
I would like the penguin IN the basket :)

Now that's a doubleshot I'd buy!
Title: From the Colemak forum...
Post by: Lanx on Wed, 09 November 2011, 01:02:22
Quote from: oneproduct;448261
I think that the shift keys (Maj in French here) still need to remain on the pinkies (though the pinky buttons could be placed in an easy to reach place as they are on the Kinesis). The problem with the way it is now is that about 25% of the time (based on the frequency of the first letter of words in English) you are going to be hitting space and then left shift with your left thumb in a row and same finger usage is one of the least desirable things.
i modded my kinesis to have "delete" (left thumb) to be shift and i never even use pinky shift anymore cuz thumb shift feels much better, but that's preference I do not like extending my pinkies.