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Offline FKSSR

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Remapping Keys
« on: Fri, 10 April 2009, 12:02:10 »
I'm starting this thread so that I don't just take over another thread that started the conversation.

So, I am using a MK96 on a Windows machine.  The MK96 doesn't have Delete, Home, End, Page Up, or Page Down keys.  Therefore, I have to remap keys for those functions.  I have been searching for the best (and cheapest) way to do so.

In the other thread, I was introduced to SharpKeys, but SharpKeys won't let me do what I want... (Make Shift+Backspace = Delete) I found a couple programs that say they can map multiple key combinations to a single key, but I would have to pay for them.  I downloaded the nicest looking one (ATNSoft), but I can't figure it out.  I sent them an email asking for assistance.

So, i stuck with KeyTweak for a while longer.  It's not so bad.  I mapped the numlock to be Delete and the = sign (it's on Mac numpads) to be NumLock, since I don't have any use for a = key in Windows.  I would just rather be able to do Shift+Backspace for Delete.

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Then I found that ATNSoft makes a program called Key Manager that does what I need it to (allows me to map Shift+Backspace to be Delete).  The program works within Windows.  So, the program starts up when Windows starts up, but if you turn the program off or the program doesn't start for whatever reason, the mapping will not be there.  It is different than the way a program like KeyTweak works - that messes with the registry.

So, I use KeyTweak to change the Pause key to Delete (in order to still do Ctrl+Alt+Delete functions easily), but I use ATNSoft Key Manager for my other remappings. So far, it's working out great. I'm still not the biggest fan of the layout of the MK96, but I finally got it working in a way that is very good.

The only problem with ATNSoft Key Manager is that it costs $30 for a license! I am on the 30-day trial. I don't want to pay the $30, but I would rather do that than go without the remapping. I'll be looking out for a free program that does the same thing (though I have looked and haven't found one yet) or be waiting to buy the Filco with white-alps switches, though. If I can, and I like it as much as I like the MK96 switches, the MK96 will be going in the closet.  

My next project with the MK96 may be to remove the legends using Acetone (as they are just printed on) and dye the keys using RIT Dye. First, I am going to see if I can get the Filco, though.

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Next week, I'm going to look at AutoHotkey as a free way to map Shift+Backspace to be Delete.

I saw it in another thread here, just now, so I'm sure others here probably use it. I'm not sure if it will work as well as ATNSoft Key Manager, but I'll let everyone know.
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Offline nowsharing

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« Reply #1 on: Sun, 12 April 2009, 05:45:54 »
Good writeup, I've bookmarked it for future reference.

Do you know if there are any remap programs that also allow the keys to launch programs? For example, it would be nice to be able to launch the calculator with F1. I tried some searching google, but most results are for crappy looking trial software. Launchy has worked wonders, but I'd prefer to just tap a single key to launch some things.

Offline skriefal

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« Reply #2 on: Sun, 12 April 2009, 09:33:29 »
Autohotkey should be able to do that -- but it does require a significant learning curve.

Offline lam47

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« Reply #3 on: Sun, 12 April 2009, 09:38:29 »
I like sharp keys. I am using it in Windows 7 to re map the key above enter to be BS so they match the HH layout I am now used to.
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Offline skriefal

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« Reply #4 on: Sun, 12 April 2009, 12:06:02 »
SharpKeys is nice in that it merely tweaks a few registry settings.  The actual remapping is handled natively by Windows, so you don't need to leave SharpKeys running.  But IIRC it won't allow you to program certain keys to launch programs or do anything other than simple key1 -> key2 remappings.

Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #5 on: Sun, 12 April 2009, 17:21:45 »
fkssr -- autohotkey should be the last keymapper you'll ever need. check it out. (and remapping is only the beginning of what you can do with it).

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Offline FKSSR

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« Reply #6 on: Mon, 13 April 2009, 12:38:09 »
I tried AutoHotkey, but I could not get it to do what I wanted (map Delete to Shift+Backspace).  I programmed it a couple different ways, but it either gave me an error (saying Delete or Del was not recognized - though in other lines it was) or just didn't work at all.  I'm not sure what the error was.

As I said, I did have success with ATNSoft, but I realized after a few days that I don't actually like having Delete mapped to Shift+Backspace. :D  Apparently, I have a habit of leaving my left pinky on the left shift sometimes when I press Enter, Backspace, or tab.  I'm not sure why.  I didn't know until a few days ago.  

I could retrain my brain, I really didn't find Shift+Backspace as convenient as I thought I would.  So, I just mapped Delete to an unused key on the numpad (I mapped Num Lock to the Delete key and moved Num Lock to the = key).  So, delete is just to the right of Backspace.  It works. :)


I do want to add that ATNSoft is amazingly responsive.  I had a question about how to do something, and they recorded a video of how to do it within a few minutes, hosted it on their site, and sent me the link.  Then, I found a bug.  They fixed it in a day, put the new build on their website, and sent me an email.  Pretty amazing tech support, in my opinion!  I kind of feel back I'm not planning on giving them money, at this point...
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« Reply #7 on: Mon, 13 April 2009, 13:58:45 »
I figured out how to use keys to launch a program in windows without a remap program. You can just right click on a shortcut, and in the properties window there is a box for hotkeys.

I need to slow down my internal geek overdrive that's always looking for the complex way of doing things.

I'm glad that I began looking for this though, because using ripster's tip I can now have volume control too. Once I figure out autohotkey I can have all the goodies, like back/forward, email, etc.

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« Reply #8 on: Mon, 13 April 2009, 15:43:17 »
Quote from: ripster;28681
Hah, here's a good one.  

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Use this script.

c::run C:\Users\NAME\Desktop\nircmd.exe cdrom open d:

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That's funny.  I would get pissed real quick.  It would be good for a few laughs, though.


Offline wellington1869

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« Reply #9 on: Mon, 13 April 2009, 18:37:54 »
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I tried AutoHotkey, but I could not get it to do what I wanted (map Delete to Shift+Backspace). I programmed it a couple different ways, but it either gave me an error (saying Delete or Del was not recognized - though in other lines it was) or just didn't work at all. I'm not sure what the error was.

dude, have you tried the forums at autohotkey.com? They're very active and someone will respond to your request for help or a pointer usually within a day... ahk isnt hard to pick up especially with all the help you can get at the forum. Also the help file is very extensive with lots of prefab examples provided.

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