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geekhack Marketplace => Group Buys and Preorders => Topic started by: Biscuit on Thu, 03 November 2022, 09:37:14

Title: [GB] Sperno59 GB CANCELLED
Post by: Biscuit on Thu, 03 November 2022, 09:37:14
Sperno59




Made by Alex and Biscuit

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GB date: November 4th - December 9th (different end dates for vendors)
US pricing: Alu: $ 345
                 Brass: $ 425




”sperno 59 | 31/10/2022:"

sorry about delaying it by a week!
There was some last second logistical stuff that was overlooked for launching the GB pages, and we wanted to take a few days to iron it out.

Introduction

I don’t use right shift, I do use arrows. So why don’t replace the right shift with arrows?
This way we can keep the "60%" format, with less compromise. (unless you use right shift of course)
Sperno means to despise/remove/reject etc. in this case, the right shift is the object... Also, it sounds funny.

We have made 2 versions, one with an aluminum bottom and another with a brass bottom.
The brass bottom is heavier and sounds better than the aluminum without foam.
With the alu bottom, you depend more on the provided foam to prevent sound from bouncing inside the case.
The upside is that the aluminum version is cheaper, and maybe you prefer the full alu look.

(There is a sound test and the full alu without foam sounds really good, but decide for yourself)


Specifications

Typing angle: 6o
Dimensions: Length: 306.75 mm, Width: 118.01 mm, Front Height: 19.25 mm, back height: 28.4 mm
Case material: Aluminum (and brass)
Weight: Brass built without switches and caps:  2.25kg
            Alu built without switches and caps: 1.2kg
Colors: Anodized Black, Anodized Alu (silver), Anodized Slate Blue, Anodized Vibrant Red
Mounting: Gasket boots (similar to suit)
               The boots slide over the plate.
Plate: Polycarbonate, alu or FR4 (with a lot of flex cuts)
PCB: VIA compatible

Solder layout options:                                                                   
(https://i.imgur.com/gGRaHxo.png)
Hotswap layout option:
(https://i.imgur.com/czRYz8o.png)


Sound and Feel

brass bottom
full alu (no foam)

The board is bouncy and types soft, this is due to the big amount of flex cuts in the plate and also in the pcb.
You can adjust the amount of gaskets to influence the feel, using all the gaskets will make it stiffer and using less will increase the flex.


Parts Included in Base Price

1x Top case
1x Bottom case
1x Alu Plate
1x PCB (hotswap or solder) + daughterboard + JST cable
16x gasket boots
4x feet
11x Screws
1x carrying case

Available as extra
Foams: (all inluded)
Case foam
Plate foam
Pcb foam

Gasket boots
pcb's (hotswap and solder)
Daughterboard
Polycarbonate plate
Aluminium plate
FR4 plate




Colors

Slate Blue
(https://i.imgur.com/znuAnXC.png)(https://i.imgur.com/foK3UmH.png)
More
(https://i.imgur.com/fH6xSDF.png)(https://i.imgur.com/Ag8qK8c.png)(https://i.imgur.com/Gaz2C3c.png)(https://i.imgur.com/GGdB5tZ.png)(https://i.imgur.com/yKC5ntq.png)(https://i.imgur.com/SUwGw0T.png)


Vibrant Red
(https://i.imgur.com/OSdouwM.png)(https://i.imgur.com/QljAfT3.png)
More
(https://i.imgur.com/Yf98QRa.png)(https://i.imgur.com/3JTrLrl.png)(https://i.imgur.com/AXY6LZC.png)(https://i.imgur.com/J4Hu0z3.png)(https://i.imgur.com/ObCJv9n.png)(https://i.imgur.com/c5whWMe.jpg)


Basic Black
(https://i.imgur.com/jPzzqHM.png)(https://i.imgur.com/wTvi73y.png)
More
(https://i.imgur.com/F5BhQki.png)(https://i.imgur.com/6phCZv6.png)


Shining Silver
(https://i.imgur.com/g9KqP90.png)(https://i.imgur.com/2MRMPKf.png)



Parts Pics
Alu plate
(https://i.imgur.com/LYhcCJp.png)
Polycarb plate
(https://i.imgur.com/R3nitpg.png)
Fr4 Plate
(https://i.imgur.com/v8taBQI.png)
PCB (solder version shown)
(https://i.imgur.com/I56IhbD.png)



Pricing

(https://i.imgur.com/MJ5KR4j.png)



Buying info

US: Mechs&Co (https://mechsandco.com/products/gb-sperno59) till dec 5th
EU: MyKeyboard (https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/group-buys/keyboards/sperno59-keyboard-kit_818/) till dec 9th
UK: KeebCats (https://keebcats.co.uk/products/sperno59-keyboard-kit?_pos=1&_fid=93bee4c9c&_ss=c) till dec 9th
CA: AshKeebs (https://www.ashkeebs.com/product/sperno59-keyboard/) till dec 8th
AU: SwitchKeys (https://www.switchkeys.com.au/products/sperno59-group-buy?variant=40404732117097) till dec 5th
Asia: QwertyQop (https://qwertyqop.com/products/sperno59)
till dec 9th

MOQ: 300
Sales date: November 4th - December 1st-9th
Estimated delivery date: Q2-Q3 2023

Prototype and Colors

R1 proto: We are very pleased with the outcome, technically almost everything works except a tolerance issue with some switches.
For the final and R2 this issue will be solved.
We have ordered a proto of each color with pics in the comments.
The red and blue are a bit lighter than what we intended and will be darker for R2 and final.

R2 proto: Have arrived! the blue color looks way better, the red is now a better shade, but still quite a bit lighter.
We will be keeping this red though, we found it looks better than what we intended. (happy little accidents)

Everything looks good and no changes are needed, we are on the final product.




Content

Past:
KiwiKang stream (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1630646711)
StrayChroma stream (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1643473192)
LightningKeyboards stream (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BOsmE2lTdk)

Not scheduled yet:
TimKeyless (https://www.twitch.tv/timkeyless)



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Title: Re: [GB] Sperno59 (60% W/ arrows) NOV 4th - DEC 9th
Post by: Biscuit on Thu, 03 November 2022, 10:14:17
Reserved
Title: Re: [GB] Sperno59 (60% W/ arrows) NOV 4th - DEC 9th
Post by: Signature on Thu, 03 November 2022, 13:12:19
Approved
Title: Re: [GB] Sperno59 (60% W/ arrows) NOV 4th - DEC 9th
Post by: Takaoster on Fri, 04 November 2022, 00:13:48
Keyboard sounds very nice and am a big fan of flex cuts in the plate
Title: Re: [GB] Sperno59 (60% W/ arrows) GB Live
Post by: Biscuit on Sun, 06 November 2022, 08:53:56
all vendors live besides mykeyboard
Title: Re: [GB] Sperno59 (60% W/ arrows) GB Live
Post by: SDKCAMPING on Sun, 06 November 2022, 12:33:01
Good luck , MOQ is optimistic and extreme difficult to meet even for very popular makers
Title: Re: [GB] Sperno59 (60% W/ arrows) GB Live
Post by: radar on Mon, 07 November 2022, 15:36:51
I couldn't find any information about the PCB firmware.  Is the PCB VIA compatible?
Title: Re: [GB] Sperno59 (60% W/ arrows) GB Live
Post by: Biscuit on Wed, 09 November 2022, 17:06:15
I couldn't find any information about the PCB firmware.  Is the PCB VIA compatible?

yes it is via compatible, ill add that in there
Title: Re: [GB] Sperno59 (60% W/ arrows) GB Live
Post by: Biscuit on Wed, 09 November 2022, 17:11:09
Good luck , MOQ is optimistic and extreme difficult to meet even for very popular makers

we will see what the numbers look like, most likely extras will be made which could fill up the remaining keyboards needed to reach moq.
The prices are based on having 300 boards, which was based on the amount of ic responses (600).
Title: Re: [GB] Sperno59 (60% W/ arrows) GB Live
Post by: Biscuit on Thu, 10 November 2022, 15:09:14
Updated breakdown render:  PCB foam placed correctly
Straychroma streaming again.
Title: Re: [GB] Sperno59 (60% W/ arrows) GB Live
Post by: Beesley on Tue, 15 November 2022, 14:05:12
I use right shift and still need this board in my life
Title: Re: [GB] Sperno59 (60% W/ arrows) GB Live
Post by: Biscuit on Fri, 18 November 2022, 06:40:03
I use right shift and still need this board in my life

YES! you just need a left one
Title: Re: [GB] Sperno59 GB CANCELLED
Post by: Biscuit on Thu, 01 December 2022, 08:35:45
Hey everyone,

Unfortunately we weren't looking to meet moq.
This is not what we expected due to the high amount of ic responses, engagement and positive feedback.
We think this is due to the financial state people are in all around the world, which is currently not the best.
We are thinking of revisiting this GB in the future, hopefully with more succes and an improved price point.

Very sorry for the people who were counting on this board and may have bought and joined other GB's for this board.

Happy typing,

Biscuit and Alex
Title: Re: [GB] Sperno59 GB CANCELLED
Post by: mixie on Sat, 17 December 2022, 16:51:06
Hey everyone,

Unfortunately we weren't looking to meet moq.
This is not what we expected due to the high amount of ic responses, engagement and positive feedback.
We think this is due to the financial state people are in all around the world, which is currently not the best.
We are thinking of revisiting this GB in the future, hopefully with more succes and an improved price point.

Very sorry for the people who were counting on this board and may have bought and joined other GB's for this board.

Happy typing,

Biscuit and Alex

Sorry to hear that the timing for this GB didn't work out. I just stubled upon this board today, unfortunately. Just letting you know that I would surely be interested if/when you decide to run in the future, as a fellow left shift enjoyer.
Title: Re: [GB] Sperno59 GB CANCELLED
Post by: Eatthereet on Sun, 25 December 2022, 07:12:56
Hey everyone,

Unfortunately we weren't looking to meet moq.
This is not what we expected due to the high amount of ic responses, engagement and positive feedback.
We think this is due to the financial state people are in all around the world, which is currently not the best.
We are thinking of revisiting this GB in the future, hopefully with more succes and an improved price point.

Very sorry for the people who were counting on this board and may have bought and joined other GB's for this board.

Happy typing,

Biscuit and Alex

Really unfortunate I think the market is quite dead atm  :'( :'( Are you able to provide some detailed sales figures?
Title: Re: [GB] Sperno59 GB CANCELLED
Post by: Lovekb on Sun, 25 December 2022, 08:11:15
Really unfortunate I think the market is quite dead atm  :'( :'(

Yeah, people have become smarter and stopped buying any trash, only keyboards with the best value for money remain and they drive the market.