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Offline salgiza

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Hi all,

As there are not that many keycap sets that include our layouts, I thought I would create a thread to keep track of them. I was already bookmarking all the ones I found, and hopefully keeping track of them here will help more people (and let me discover keycaps that I had missed).

Active Group Buys/Preorders
GMK Black Snail (ES/FR, ends 15th of December)


Interest Checks
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GMK Clásico (ES)
KAT Milkshake Doubleshot (ES/FR)
MW Calico (ES/FR)
KBM Caramel (South)
KAM Popelka (ES/IT)
GMK WoB ES kit (ES)
ePBT Creative Studio (South)
MW Invasion (support being considered, vote on the IC Form if interested!!!)
ePBT Salt Lakes (support being considered, vote on the IC Form if interested!!!)
ePBT Frontier (support being considered, vote on the IC Form if interested!!!)
More
I've put under "more" all ICs that have been inactive for a long time or that are currently on hold.

ePBT Maras (ES/LA, GB cancelled and back to IC)
ePBT Submerged (ES/PT/IT)
KAT Goddess (South)
KAT PBJ (South)
DCS Classic Orange (incomplete kitting, though)



Available to buy
Keychron and Glorious sets. Decent quality/decent price from two major keyboard manufacturers.
Note: These sets should be available from multiple vendors, so Google for them if the links I've included don't have stock (e.g., Coffekeys has some of them in ISO-IT, and Glorious sells them on their web).
Keychron PBT Gray (65 & 75%) (ES, IT)
Keychron PBT Retro (65 & 75%) (ES/IT/PT)
Keychron PBT Retro (TKL, 60% & 100%) (ES/IT/PT)
Keychron PBT Carbon (65 & 75%) (ES/IT/FR)
Keychron PBT Carbon (TKL, 60% & 100%) (ES/IT/PT)
Keychron PBT Blue (65 & 75%) (ES, IT)
Keychron PBT Blue (TKL, 60% & 100%) (ES/IT/PT)
Keychron PBT Iceberg (TKL, 60% & 100%) (ES/IT/PT)
GPBT Caribbean Ocean (ES)
GPBT Rain Forest (ES)
GPBT Artic White (ES)
GPBT Black Ash (ES)
Glorious Gaming Race ABS (ES/PT) Note: this is an old set and does not support 65/75% layouts.
Glorious ABS Doubleshot Keycaps (ES)

Tai-Hao & Traitors sets. Two asian manufacturers that are known brands in the market. Tai-Hao is also one of the few manufacturers that makes double-shot keycaps.
Traitors Zashiki Warashi (ES)
Traitors Yuki Onna (ES)
Traitors UKIYO-E (ES/PT)
Traitors Kabuki (ES/PT)
Traitors Infinity (ES/PT)
Traitors Eternity (ES/PT)
Tai Hao Dark Tunnel (ES/PT/IT)
Tai-Hao Smokey Quartz (ES - Translucent Keycaps!)
Tai Hao Hygge (ES also here and here/IT click here)
Tai Hao Pine Green (ES/IT click here)
Tai Hao Cream (ES)

Biip sets. One of the most popular keycap designers, Biip has some in-stock items that support International layouts (including ES). Good quality, but expensive.
Note: the first three are currently out of stock, but they should receive more stock at some point (at least in Novelkeys' web).
DSA Milkshake (Also here)
PBT Cherry Milkshake (Also here)
PBT Notion (Also here)
Drop + Blip MT3 Extended 2048 (Incomplete, should be like the rest when the current batch is sold)
Drop + Blip MT3 Extended 2048 Dark (ES/?)
Drop + Blip MT3 Operator (ES/BR)

Matt3o sets. He is the creator of the MT3, PBS and MTNU keycap profiles, as well as the creator of the popular /dev/tty set:
Drop + Matt3o MT3 /dev/tty R3 (ES/IT/LA)

SPKeyboards (formerly PimpMyKeyboard). The public name of a well-known US keycap manufacturer (Signature Plastics). Very good quality, but expensive.
SA-P Snow Cap (ES/IT/PT/BR/LA)
SA Ice Cap (ES/IT/PT/BR/LA - extra keys here)
DSA Granite
DSA High Contrast Granite
DSA Quartz
SA-P Standard Sets (ES/IT/PT/BR/LA - Choose your own color combination or use it with other SA-P sets)
DSA Standard Sets (ES/IT/PT/BR/LA - Same as the previous link, but with DSA profile)

Rem83. A Spanish shop specialised in ISO-ES keyboards and keycaps. I'm linking to the whole shop as they have several exclusive keysets and they are all ISO-ES.
M83 Keysets (ES)

21KB. I don't have much info on this shop, but they have a couple of nice retro sets in IT/ES, that can actually be combined with other sets (e.g., Runic) if you want different sublegends.
21KB Classic Retro Beige (ES/IT)
21KB Custom Color Classic Retro (ES/IT)

Other vendors. Some from old GBs, an amazing set in MT3 from Zambumon, and a very cool IDOBAO set
ePbt Scandi (ES/PT)
KPrepublic International Keyboard (ES/PT/IT)
Kono SA Granite (ES/IT)
Kono KAT CyberSpace (South)
Drop + Zambumon MT3 Serika (ES/BR)
IDOBAO MA Element Suite R1
Drop + MiTo GMK Laser (BR, with some errors)
More
These sets are not expected to receive new stock anymore.
Eloquent Clicks Cherry Retro Set (ES)
KPrepublic SA Retro


AliExpress sets. Cheap in all senses, but a good option if you are on a budget.
AliExpress YMDK Cherry (ES/IT)
AliExpress YMDK 9009 DSA (ES/IT)
AliExpress YMDK Hami Melon (ES/IT)
AliExpress PBT Botanic (ES/IT)
AliExpress PBT Noel (ES/IT)
AliExpress PBT Cherry ES (ES)
AliExpress Cherry B&W (ES)
AliExpress Mizu Blue Set (ES, same set, different seller)
AliExpress Spanish Keycaps with LED support (ES, also here)
AliExpress OEM Plum Bossom (ES)
AliExpress Cherry Night Sakura (ES/BR)
AliExpress Cherry Evangelion (ES/BR)
AliExpres XDA Multiple Sets (ES/BR)
AliExpress Cherry Space (ES/FR)
AliExpress Cherry Samurai (ES/BR/FR)
AliExpress XDA Printstream (ES/BR/FR)



Denshi Electronic. This is an odd case, so I'm adding just a link to their shop instead to the individual keysets. It's a Spanish shop that seems to import and sell AliExpress keysets (most of the ones they have are also in the links above), but they also seem to have some ISO-ES sets that are not available anywhere else.
Deshi Electronic


Custom/Printed
WASD Keyboards WASD lets you create your custom sets, including any ISO language.
Krome Keycaps Krome Keycaps lets you add a custom ISO-ES/PT/IT (+others) kit to complement any of their sets.


Unusual keycap sets
These are sets that don’t belong to any layout in particular (e.g. they don’t have labels, or use invented languages/symbols).
MT3 Lord of the Rings Elvish
MT3 Lord of the Rings Dwarvish
G20 Semiotic (For fans of Alien and weird key profiles)
XDA Linear A keycaps (For fans of dead civilizations)
GMK Dots 2
GMK Pixel
DSA Star Wars Galactic Empire
Geekark Triangle
KAM Playground (IC)
MW Paws (GB finished)


Ñ sets
Frankenstein Ñ sets (ANSI/ISO sets that include an ñ for ES/LA users)
MVKB Classic
CreateKeebs Stamp (IC)
GMK Lilac on Black (IC)
DCS Pink Alert (IC)
MW Pono Light (Extras available)
MW Coloradas (Extras available)
MW Commute (Extras available)


Finished Group Buys
I’m going to keep a list of finished GBs, just in case there are any extras available after they ship.
GMK Blot (ES/FR 30/3/23 - 24/4/23)
KAM Command (ES/IT only, 4/10/21 - 4/11/21)
GMK Electric (PT, partial ES, 6/9/21 - 6/10/21)
KAT Great Wave (South, 21/6/21 - 21/7/21)
ePBT Scandi (ES/PT only, 14/6/21 - 14/7/21)
KAT Space Dust (South, 24/5/21 - 25/6/21)
More
MW Commute (partial support, 10/12/21 - 14/01/22)
ePBT Witch (partial support, 24/11/21 - 24/12/21)
ePBT Avilo (ES only, 19/11/21 - 19/12/21)
KAT Slurp (South, 8/2/21 - 8/3/21)
KAT Monochrome (South, 1/9/20 - 30/9/20)
KAT Iron (South, 2/8/20 - 1/9/20)
KAT Hyperfuse (South, 29/6/20 - 31/7/20)
KAT Space Cadet (South, 1/4/20 - 9/5/20)
KAT Lich (South, 7/1/20 - 31/1/20) - The first South set! (heart)


If anyone knows of any more GBs/ICs or available keycaps that I have missed, please add a comment!
« Last Edit: Tue, 23 January 2024, 06:52:58 by salgiza »

Offline salgiza

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Re: South (ES/PT/IT) keycaps - links to active GB and ICs
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 04 June 2021, 07:06:23 »
I just added the ePBT Scandi IC, which I had missed!

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The ePBT Scandi Group Buy is live! (The link still points to the IC thread, I'll update it when the GB thread is approved).

It's a very nice set that includes tertiary labels (something that most other GBs/ICs) don't.

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Do appreciate your work here mate!

With so little to choose from finally decided to move into ANSI with a touch of ISO (Enter and whatnot) but will take a look here from time to time.

Buen trabajo y suerte!


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Do appreciate your work here mate!

With so little to choose from finally decided to move into ANSI with a touch of ISO (Enter and whatnot) but will take a look here from time to time.

Buen trabajo y suerte!

Thanks a lot! Hopefully making these sets easier to find we'll get more people joining the hobby (and thus making "South" kits more popular).

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Thanks for compiling these lists and making the information easier to access. It's no easy to get nice sets with full compatibility, and hopefully they become more popular. Just got EPBT Scandi and I'm also waiting for the KAT Monochrome sets I got last year.

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A new IC has jus appeared that looks incredibly cool: KAM Command. It just has ES/IT/LA, but with his amount of kitting I'm sure that PT would be added if there is enough interest? I don't know, but always remember to fill in IC Forms to show interest in Keycaps that you would buy!

P.S. During the last weeks I've been also silently updating the list of in-stock (mostly AliExpress) keycaps. As an ES user myself, most of the ones are just for ES layouts + maybe IT or PT. Please, if you are an Italian or Portuguese user, let me know of any keycaps for your layout that you find, so that I can add them to the list!

Thanks for compiling these lists and making the information easier to access. It's no easy to get nice sets with full compatibility, and hopefully they become more popular. Just got EPBT Scandi and I'm also waiting for the KAT Monochrome sets I got last year.

Thanks a lot for the comment!

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 23/7/2021)
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 03 August 2021, 03:58:35 »
I love this post! Thanks a lot for keeping it updated.

You may want to take a look at this spreadsheet I found online: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Yj4SpqcC0lc5nFwmGzg2KN2bmshADZBIcs4EOLIiwlc/edit#gid=782011333

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 23/7/2021)
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 03 August 2021, 07:56:50 »
I love this post! Thanks a lot for keeping it updated.

You may want to take a look at this spreadsheet I found online: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Yj4SpqcC0lc5nFwmGzg2KN2bmshADZBIcs4EOLIiwlc/edit#gid=782011333

Oooh! Do you have the source? If someone is also keeping track of these kits (even if only for es-ES), we could join forces!
If not, I will check all the links and update the main post, but it would be nice to at least give credit!

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 23/7/2021)
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 03 August 2021, 07:58:58 »
Oooh! Do you have the source? If someone is also keeping track of these kits (even if only for es-ES), we could join forces!
If not, I will check all the links and update the main post, but it would be nice to at least give credit!

Unfortunately, I have no idea. I just found this via organic search through Google.

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 6/8/2021)
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 15 August 2021, 04:05:23 »
So little options for ISO-ES...

I like the pimpmykeyboard ones but almost $300 to cover all the needs in my small TKL layout...that's crazy!

I would like some black themed DSA, i'm starting to think that's impossible. I will have to choose between a blank kit or to struggle my brain on a change to ANSI.

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 6/8/2021)
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 15 August 2021, 13:51:26 »
Hiho,

Onto the move into ANSI, found a sweet spot in mixing ANSI with ISO enter. Add to that the usage of VIA / QMK to setup tildes, Ç and Ñ in secondary layers and whatnot to finetune couple more keys and you are able to use any base kit of any keycap set 99% of the time. Altough most of the time you have to solder for the ISO enter (Not something expensive nor difficult to learn given the amount of video tutorials) At least to me it was easy to adjust than an ergo/alice layout.

In any case, extremelly thankful for the amount of resources to try to have ISO-ES on our keyboards. Great Job guys! :thumb:

Hope this helped!







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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 16/8/2021)
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 16 August 2021, 03:49:24 »
So little options for ISO-ES...

I like the pimpmykeyboard ones but almost $300 to cover all the needs in my small TKL layout...that's crazy!

I would like some black themed DSA, i'm starting to think that's impossible. I will have to choose between a blank kit or to struggle my brain on a change to ANSI.

I must say that at some point the links to pimpmykeyboard were the first on the list, for no particular reason, and then I thought: mmm.. I've heard great things about these keysets, maybe I could buy one? And then I checked the prices... and moved them down on the list in order not to scare anyone new to the hobby  :D

There is DSA Milkshake coming out in September, if I'm not mistaken (about the date). But it is white themed, I'm afraid.

Onto the move into ANSI, found a sweet spot in mixing ANSI with ISO enter. Add to that the usage of VIA / QMK to setup tildes, Ç and Ñ in secondary layers and whatnot to finetune couple more keys and you are able to use any base kit of any keycap set 99% of the time. Altough most of the time you have to solder for the ISO enter (Not something expensive nor difficult to learn given the amount of video tutorials) At least to me it was easy to adjust than an ergo/alice layout.

At first I thought about just doing that (ANSI with ISO enter) but I don't know why, having the symbol labels in the wrong places (even though I never look at the keyboard when I type) totally triggers some kind of OCD in me. I mean, I could have klingon labels in all keys and I wouldn't care. But having the "," in the wrong key... aarg.

Thankfully, I must say that, since I started this thread, things don't look so dire for ES (and PT/IT) users. There are no running GBs right now, but MOQs for everything non-GMK (which usually have the most boring designs, anyway) actually allow for designers to include support for our layouts, and the sales numbers for the latest GBs were actually pretty decent.

And once things get going after summer, it looks like there is going to be at least one or two GBs that support ES or South layouts every month... (I just added a couple more of ICs to the list).

I'm not losing hope yet!  :)

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 16/8/2021)
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 19 August 2021, 15:03:06 »
Keychron is adding a OEM PBT dye-sub keycap set in ISO-ES. For just $40 it seems a reasonable option if someone likes the retro-mac style. It's intended as a full set for keychron's K2 and new Q1, but perhaps it's a good option for a common TKL or smaller board.

https://www.keychron.com/products/iso-dye-sub-oem-pbt-keycap-set?variant=39411835895897

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 16/8/2021)
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 20 August 2021, 06:44:31 »
Keychron is adding a OEM PBT dye-sub keycap set in ISO-ES. For just $40 it seems a reasonable option if someone likes the retro-mac style. It's intended as a full set for keychron's K2 and new Q1, but perhaps it's a good option for a common TKL or smaller board.

https://www.keychron.com/products/iso-dye-sub-oem-pbt-keycap-set?variant=39411835895897

Thanks for the tip, I've added it to the list! Being Keychron, hopefully it will be soon be sold by some of their distributors in the EU (I'll update the link if that happens).
But great news, anyway, because having a cheap starting point for people dipping their toes in the hobby is really nice!

(Glorious also had ES keycaps, but they haven't updated them for the GMMK Pro  :( )


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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/8/2021)
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 27 August 2021, 13:39:15 »
I believe the set / dev / tty MT3 on Drop may be of interest: it's not available right now but it's a great set  :cool:

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https://drop.com/buy/drop-matt3o-devtty-custom-keycap-set
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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/8/2021)
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 28 August 2021, 05:30:39 »
If nothing else, you should make a honorable mention to KAT Lich, which was the first GB to include a proper BRESLAPTIT (a.k.a. "south") kit. I wonder if extras are still available.

Added! I didn’t know that the first GB with a South kit was just from last year! (It certainly means that things are getting better, hopefully!)

P.S. if that guide is yours: thanks a lot. I saw it months ago, but I didn’t save the link, and I wanted to find it again because it’s a great resource when asking for “South” support in ICs.

I believe the set / dev / tty MT3 on Drop may be of interest: it's not available right now but it's a great set  :cool:
https://drop.com/buy/drop-matt3o-devtty-custom-keycap-set

Oooh, nice! I’ve added that one and the one Biip designed for Drop as well (although the kitting of Biip’s one is bit strange). I saw in his discord that they were going to restock it next month, so hopefully Drop will also restock the one you linked soon.

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I’ve also added a new section for keycap sets that don’t belong to any language in particular (and thus everyone who follows this thread might find useful), and a couple more ICs to the list.

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 3/9/2021)
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 03 September 2021, 11:07:05 »
Both versions of the Milkshake keycaps are available to preorder (there is no MOQ and they’ll probably keep stock after they start shipping).

DSA Milkshake
PBT Cherry Milkshake

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 3/9/2021)
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 04 September 2021, 03:15:25 »
GMK Norkeuk++ kits also include PT
GMK Electric GB will start 6/Sep and also have PT in the Nordeuk addon.
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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 3/9/2021)
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 04 September 2021, 09:17:22 »
GMK Norkeuk++ kits also include PT
GMK Electric GB will start 6/Sep and also have PT in the Nordeuk addon.

Thanks for the tip, I’ve added them to the list!  :)

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 6/9/2021)
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 09 September 2021, 02:56:19 »
Hello @salgiza

first of all, thank you so much for your job, this is a VERY useful info for somebody that they looking for a decent quality ISO-ES keycaps (like me). I will check this thread often.

Check this Aliexpress Iso-es keycaps set

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005003004810814.html?

Venga nos vemos!

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 6/9/2021)
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 09 September 2021, 04:02:49 »
Check this Aliexpress Iso-es keycaps set
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005003004810814.html?

Thanks, added to the list!
I've put all the AliExpress sets inside a "more" tag, though, because the list is growing (and there is a good chance that it will keep growing as soon as PT and IT only sets start to appear in it).

And as an additional note: GMMK confirmed a few days ago that they will release update keycap sets for the GMMK Pro with DE, UK & ES support (and hopefully PT/IT will follow). As soon as they are available I'll add a link.

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 9/9/2021)
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 09 September 2021, 04:18:27 »
Drop have a Tai Hao set that includes Spanish, Portuguese and Italian (along with quite a few others)  Looks like the "Dark Tunnel" set you have listed above, but being available from Drop might provide an alternative for some users.

https://drop.com/buy/tai-hao-exotic-layout-pbt-doubleshot-keycap-set?mode=guest_open
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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 9/9/2021)
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 09 September 2021, 04:30:22 »
Drop have a Tai Hao set that includes Spanish, Portuguese and Italian (along with quite a few others)  Looks like the "Dark Tunnel" set you have listed above, but being available from Drop might provide an alternative for some users.

https://drop.com/buy/tai-hao-exotic-layout-pbt-doubleshot-keycap-set?mode=guest_open

Thanks! I've added the link next to the existing one (I'm keeping Eloquentcliks as the main one because I try to add EU shops when possible, to avoid taxes/shipping costs).

The list keeps growing!  :)

Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 9/9/2021)
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 12 September 2021, 15:50:58 »
En Aliexpres ha salido un conjunto nuevo, el botanical. Es una imitacion pero tiene buena pinta.
Enhorabuena y gracias por los aportes a todos.
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005003124761925.html?algo_pvid=03f87455-1c86-4cdb-90d5-e57231de21b9&algo_exp_id=03f87455-1c86-4cdb-90d5-e57231de21b9-2&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000024232979635%22%7D

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 9/9/2021)
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 13 September 2021, 02:38:07 »
En Aliexpres ha salido un conjunto nuevo, el botanical. Es una imitacion pero tiene buena pinta.
Enhorabuena y gracias por los aportes a todos.
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005003124761925.html?algo_pvid=03f87455-1c86-4cdb-90d5-e57231de21b9&algo_exp_id=03f87455-1c86-4cdb-90d5-e57231de21b9-2&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000024232979635%22%7D

Added to the list!

I've also added a link to the DSA PetriKeys interest check. They are considering adding support for International layouts so, for any one that reads this, check the IC and, if you like it, fill in the IC form and add a comment asking (politely) for ES/IT/PT or South support!

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/9/2021)
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 20 September 2021, 03:16:31 »
On sad news, I've removed KAM Sewing Tin from the Interest Checks (IC) list. Not enough people voted on the interest form and they've finally decided not to support our layout.

I know that many of you already know this but, for those who don't: if you see a link in Interest Checks that you like, click on the Google form that you will always find in its main post, and fill it in, specifying (even it's in a comment) that you would like support for your particular layout (ES/IT/PT) or a South kit if possible. That's mostly what ICs are today: a way to check how many people would buy specific kits and add them or not to the keyset. No votes (or very few), and the kit won't be included. Enough votes, and any IC might add a South set.

In that line: any IC might actually add a South kit if enough people vote for it in the IC form (well, except maybe GMK sets as those have very high MOQs). If you see an IC that you like and its not in the IC list, don't hesitate to share it in this thread and ask for votes, as there might be more people interested in buying it that had not seen the IC!

While things have improved a lot in the last year, South kits are still a gamble (I've seen GBs where they've sold 30+ units, but other GBs where it's been as low as 2-3 units), and keyset creators will not support our layout if not enough people fill in the IC form, no matter how many times you ask for support in the IC thread.

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/9/2021)
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 20 September 2021, 03:18:03 »
As an added note: the GB for SA Polyclear is live. Not a south kit per se, but if you ever wanted to have a full (or partial) transparent keyboard, now is your chance.

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 21/9/2021)
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 21 September 2021, 08:08:49 »
Good news today: ePBT Creative Studio has announced support for IT/ES/PT/BR/LA layouts!

This is an amazing set for those who use Adobe Creative Studio!

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 22/9/2021)
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 22 September 2021, 07:18:17 »
Another day, another IC: ePBT Maras.

Unfortunately, this one only supports ES (and LA) layouts but, as always, fill in the Google form if you are interested in PT or IT support!

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 27/9/2021)
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 27 September 2021, 15:03:52 »
Added a link to the Eloquentclicks ePBT Sumeria IC. I just confirmed on their discord that the keyset will include ES, PT & IT support!

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 27/9/2021)
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 28 September 2021, 05:14:35 »
Than kyou so much for your work on this. Excellent initiative.

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 4/10/2021)
« Reply #33 on: Mon, 04 October 2021, 03:56:34 »
A few updates today:

  • KAM Command GB is going live today. I still link to the IC thread, I'll update the link to the GB thread once it's approved.
  • Preorders for DSA Milkshake and PBT Cherry Milkshake closed this weekend. These sets will be back as in-stock keysets once they have been manufactured (with a higher sales price), at the beginning of 2022 if everything goes well.

And, as always, vote/ask for South layout supports in every IC that you see that seems interesting, be it linked here or not! Currently I'm only keeping track of ES/IT/PT keysets (when South is not supported), but South includes support for BR and LA as well, and together we are a lot of people. If we can get the ball rolling, we can even dream of buying GMK keysets some day! (one can only dream...)  :cool:


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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 4/10/2021)
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 05 October 2021, 02:25:22 »
A few updates today:

  • KAM Command GB is going live today. I still link to the IC thread, I'll update the link to the GB thread once it's approved.
  • Preorders for DSA Milkshake and PBT Cherry Milkshake closed this weekend. These sets will be back as in-stock keysets once they have been manufactured (with a higher sales price), at the beginning of 2022 if everything goes well.

And, as always, vote/ask for South layout supports in every IC that you see that seems interesting, be it linked here or not! Currently I'm only keeping track of ES/IT/PT keysets (when South is not supported), but South includes support for BR and LA as well, and together we are a lot of people. If we can get the ball rolling, we can even dream of buying GMK keysets some day! (one can only dream...)  :cool:



Thanks for your dedication, much apreciated!

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 4/10/2021)
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 05 October 2021, 03:31:15 »
Than kyou so much for your work on this. Excellent initiative.

Thanks for your dedication, much apreciated!

Thanks a lot for your words!

Today we have a new IC addition: ePBT Submerged (ES/PT/IT), and I've also updated the link for the KAM Command group buy.

On sadder news, I've removed  GMK WOB NORDEUK++ R2 (PT Only) from the list of ICs, as the author has had problems reaching out to GMK, and has put the project on indefinite hold.

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 11/10/2021)
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 11 October 2021, 03:49:04 »
Ahh... life is a rollercoaster of emotions when you enter this hobby as a non-ANSI user...

This week I'm removing DCS Solarized Dark from the list of ICs. They have finally added an "ñ" for LATAM users, but there is no ES, PT or IT support in the final kitting (not enough demand in the IC form...)

Also, remember to check and share the KAM Command set currently in GB! Sales are currently quite low for such an original set, and numbers for the ES and IT layouts don't look good.. to say the least  :(

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 20 October 2021, 04:04:51 »
I've just added the new Glorious keysets to the list of in-stock keysets: GPBT Caribbean Ocean, GPBT Rain Forest, GPBT Artic White, GPBT Black Ash. For now they are only available in ES layout, but Glorious has previously also released PT versions of their keysets, so I guess that those should appear soon (the ISO-ES versions just appeared out of nowhere last week).

Anyway, it's nice to have a bigger selection of cheap in-stock sets so that you can build a keyboard now and maybe buy nicer keycaps in the future!

P.S. I've also removed the link to SA Polyclear from Unusual keycap sets, as the GB ends today (if you are reading this, you might still be able to buy transparent keycaps, if that's your thing!)

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
« Reply #38 on: Sat, 23 October 2021, 05:04:28 »
Dunno if we are able to post it here, but a handful of GMK clone sets in alliexpress recently have added (afaik) ISO-ES among other ISO-countries

Sets like, Mizu, Olivia, Botanical , daifuku.

Keep up with the good work mate, you hit it out of the park.

Cheers.

Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
« Reply #39 on: Sat, 23 October 2021, 16:55:20 »
Im interested in those alliexprress sests but i cant find them.

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
« Reply #40 on: Sat, 23 October 2021, 17:04:52 »
Dunno if we are able to post it here, but a handful of GMK clone sets in alliexpress recently have added (afaik) ISO-ES among other ISO-countries

Sets like, Mizu, Olivia, Botanical , daifuku.

Keep up with the good work mate, you hit it out of the park.

Cheers.

:O The Botanical one is already linked in the main post, but I didn’t know that is was a clone of a GMK set!

Yeah, I’m also torn between looking for them and link them or, if that would be (understandably) not a nice thing to do in these forums…

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 24 October 2021, 03:47:21 »
I've managed to find Botanical and Mizu (I could send the link if you want), but not Olivia or Daifuku.

I don't think it's unethical to link clone keysets when the original ones don't have your language options. I would pay whatever to have an Olivia ISO ES, but GMK is never going to bother.

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« Reply #42 on: Mon, 25 October 2021, 03:22:09 »
I've managed to find Botanical and Mizu (I could send the link if you want), but not Olivia or Daifuku.

I don't think it's unethical to link clone keysets when the original ones don't have your language options. I would pay whatever to have an Olivia ISO ES, but GMK is never going to bother.

Mmm… I’ve compared the botanical set (the one that I had linked) and it even copies the novelties. It might be fine if they were just “inspired” by the original sets, or just had the same colours, but let’s remember that this is a forum where keycap designers meet and publish their sets, and we are not going to make any friends by linking to AlliExpress sets that are blatantly copying their designs  :(

Also, between the new Glorious GPBT sets and the new Keychron ones, we finally have several cheap (and nice looking) options to get into the hobby using ISO-ES keysets, which I’d rather recommend.

Regarding GMK, btw, the magic number is 100 (the minimum numbers of kits that have to be sold for a South kit to be manufactured). Looking at sales of current and past GBs (which support South or ES/IT/PT layouts), we are still far away from that, but I don’t think the number is unattainable! One of the reasons I created this post, in fact, was to make it easier for people to enter the hobby, so that maybe one that we can reach that number!
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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
« Reply #43 on: Mon, 25 October 2021, 05:03:53 »
Yeah, it makes sense for them to have a minimum number of kits ordered in order to make a batch.

But when it comes to proven successful designs (like the ones we are discussing now), I often wonder why sites like mykeyboard.eu or eloquentclicks.com won't order something like 50 base kits + south kits and then keep the combination in stock until they sell out. It's hard to imagine they won't eventually sell 50 Olivia or Bonatnical reissues to south-layout users.

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
« Reply #44 on: Mon, 25 October 2021, 16:04:37 »
The more I read the latest posts, the more I am convinced that the best way to protect the wonderful work of keycap designers and make sets for south languages achievable is to promote our hobby as much as possible in the countries that have been mentioned (ES, PT and of course IT, my country).

I also appeal to keycap designers: promote ISO layout and support for south languages!
Create more renderings that show them and insert dedicated options in the IC forms, make it clear that you want to take these options seriously, and I'm sure the answer will not fail to arrive :cool:
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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 26 October 2021, 15:14:47 »
The IC for GMK Universe ( https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115039.0 ) has recently added a NorDeUK kit with a "Ñ". Could this be a hint for other language layouts to come?
Please fill the IC form and ask the creator for a south kit ^-^ !

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 27 October 2021, 07:05:31 »
Updates:

I've changed the GPBT links to point to eloquentclics instead of the German page I originally linked.
Biip has mentioned in Discord that the DROP + BIIP MT3 EXTENDED 2048 international kit is going to be updated with extra keys (hopefully to include the missing ES, and I don't know if IT/PT keys), so that it matches the kit for PBT Cherry Milkshake. Also, PBT Notion should include an international set when it's restocked in Q1 2022. All of these should be in-stock items (not GBs), so they will be extra options for those entering the hobby.


The more I read the latest posts, the more I am convinced that the best way to protect the wonderful work of keycap designers and make sets for south languages achievable is to promote our hobby as much as possible in the countries that have been mentioned (ES, PT and of course IT, my country).

I also appeal to keycap designers: promote ISO layout and support for south languages!
Create more renderings that show them and insert dedicated options in the IC forms, make it clear that you want to take these options seriously, and I'm sure the answer will not fail to arrive :cool:

100% agree.


But when it comes to proven successful designs (like the ones we are discussing now), I often wonder why sites like mykeyboard.eu or eloquentclicks.com won't order something like 50 base kits + south kits and then keep the combination in stock until they sell out. It's hard to imagine they won't eventually sell 50 Olivia or Bonatnical reissues to south-layout users.

That's something I've wondered myself many times. That being said, 100 units is the MOQ, but I'm sure that if we got to something like 70-80 the distributor would probably buy the remaining kits and sell them as extras, even if it's as separate kits. The two most successful GBs this summer (KAT Space Dust and ePBT Scandi) sold 41-43 south kits. As I mentioned, we are not that far away, but we still have to get more people interested in this hobby...

On the other side of the coin, though, KAT Great Wave only sold 5 south kits, and the currently running GB KAT Command has only sold only 5 (ES+LA+IT) kits, so far... :(


The IC for GMK Universe ( https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=115039.0 ) has recently added a NorDeUK kit with a "Ñ". Could this be a hint for other language layouts to come?
Please fill the IC form and ask the creator for a south kit ^-^ !

IC form filled in!!! Although I think GMK south kits are still out of reach (I could see an extended Norde + ES, PT, IT, or a combination, though, as GMK Electric did with PT).

Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
« Reply #47 on: Thu, 28 October 2021, 13:02:38 »
Im pretty sure that there are many people interested in this keyboard world, is just is very dificult to find.
If you sent this web site to a well known youtuber as Nate Gentile, maybe people would start to know this site.
I discover this page just few weeks ago.

Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 29 October 2021, 08:18:39 »
Here another multilanguage keycaps from Tai hao
https://www.tai-hao.com/catalog/ins.php?index_id=59

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Re: Spanish, Portuguese & Italian (South) keycaps (links updated: 20/10/2021)
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 02 November 2021, 05:43:48 »
Here another multilanguage keycaps from Tai hao
https://www.tai-hao.com/catalog/ins.php?index_id=59

Hi Juan, have you found any shop that actually sells that set? (I've been searching for it and I can't find any). I'm not sure how Tai-Hao sets work, as EloquentClicks actually run some sort of GB to get the Dark Tunnels sets that they currently have in stock. Maybe they were produced in the past? Same thing happens with the Tai-Hao Miami set, that has an international set with ES support, but I haven't seen it sold anywhere. Warning: looking at that set might blind you.

P.S. I'll take the chance to remind everyone that the KAM Command GB will end in two days!