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Title: [GB] SHIPPING-The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Tue, 09 August 2016, 20:35:53
Kit includes

$120 - kit
+25 for caps
+40 assembly
+20 shipping outside ConUS (shipping subject to change based on location. this is a guideline)



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***Keycaps are NOT included unless you select the extra option. this layout was designed to work with standard ANSI keyboard key sets. one set of ANSI key caps (104 set) will complete one 35% Pawn keyboard. the profiles will likely not match the rows and there may be gaps in the key. this will be a hacked set made to fit this layout not a custom set designed for it. please keep this in mind when selecting add key caps option.



ok whats in store

[attach=1]

the Pawn is based on this keyboard with a few slight modifications to better fit standard key sets. this makes finding a complete key cap set much easier to buy. However, this set does not by default come with key caps. A in expensive set has been selected with several color options in the event you want a complete keyboard kit including the caps.

unless indicated you will receive only what is required to complete the kit no additional parts or caps will be included.

below is the layout for this Group buy
[attach=2]



i will use this thread for the main hub for all of this group buy. if you have any questions please PM me and include "The Pawn" in the subject so i can attempt to keep track of everything.
this will be my first group buy so be gentile.  :cool:

this GB will be open untill Aug 31 2016 some time in the afternoon. i reserve the wright to close this GB early. all payments must be made by 9/10/2016 at 12 midnight.

if i have forgotten anything i apologize i'll try to keep things updated here.


CLOSED

beginning invoicing




because some have asked here is the KLE link so you can play with the layout. the layout in the picture featured on the order form is the only layout included in this kit.
http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/208538fb5830a1a4eea178d1de141d28 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/208538fb5830a1a4eea178d1de141d28)

Support files
[attachmini=3]

ALL INVOICES SENT
Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: wodan on Sun, 14 August 2016, 23:52:10
*cough*

Bump!
Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: sprit on Mon, 15 August 2016, 01:35:33
Beautiful!   Amazing!    :)
Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Mon, 15 August 2016, 08:09:28
Beautiful!   Amazing!    :)

thanks alot. its a fun board.
Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Tue, 16 August 2016, 18:42:04
Did the gap in time between when your first prototype pics hit the internet and the group buy thread being approved end up with fewer people signing up than you expected?

Do you have a guess on the timeline for delivery of the kits vs. assembled keyboards?
Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Tue, 16 August 2016, 18:47:49
No the response has been very good. I'm hoping to have some of the parts cut out before the GB ends so a week to 10 days for shipping and packing. Another week for assembly versions. Vendor shipping would push things back. I'm hoping to be alllllll done with shipping by end of month next month as an extreme time frame but shooting for well before then

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Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Wed, 17 August 2016, 21:14:47
What is the little 1x1 key in the middle of the spacebar row in the layout? Why is that different from the prototype?
Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Wed, 17 August 2016, 22:08:27
What is the little 1x1 key in the middle of the spacebar row in the layout? Why is that different from the prototype?
i added this key as i found the keyboard really could use an extra layer key after using the v1 layout for afew weeks. could be use as a super  key or other mod.
Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: jal on Thu, 18 August 2016, 08:58:26
I like the case profile a lot - nice to see things non-rectangular. The 1u key in the middle of the space bars would make me homicidal, though.
Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Thu, 18 August 2016, 09:42:40
I like the case profile a lot - nice to see things non-rectangular. The 1u key in the middle of the space bars would make me homicidal, though.

thanks so much. and yeah i only added it because i feel like it would be useful for more people and functions. as a mobile only keyboard the split space bar does fine. for the GB i'm planning the split with 3 keys for added functionality. however. if you want to commission a one off with out the triple space. please PM me. that goes for anyone else who wants one customized. :)
Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: yottagray on Thu, 18 August 2016, 10:33:37
This is great. I can't wait to see what it looks like after I give the wood a nice coat of finish and stick some DSAs on it!
Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: Venediction on Fri, 19 August 2016, 03:11:34
Had no idea a 35% was possible :o

I guess with layering a 1% would still (theoretically) be possible as a full functioning keyboard
Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: sprit on Fri, 19 August 2016, 03:36:24
Wish it has some success as I like the format!   ;)
Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: Unix.dmr on Sun, 21 August 2016, 06:46:03
submitted. when make the payment?
Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Sun, 21 August 2016, 08:43:57
Group but ends the end of the month I will involve then. Must pay by 9/10

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Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: jdcarpe on Sun, 21 August 2016, 09:17:09
Group buy ends the end of the month I will invoice then. Must pay by 9/10

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Your chess board has terrible autocorrect haha. Fixed for you.
Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Sun, 21 August 2016, 09:48:58
Group buy ends the end of the month I will invoice then. Must pay by 9/10

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Your chess board has terrible autocorrect haha. Fixed for you.

hahaha thanks i had just woken up when i posted that. no coffee yet.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Fri, 26 August 2016, 23:13:11
I've identified a bunch of things I need to squeeze into the case to make it battery powered and bluetooth-enabled. I'm getting super excited!
Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Fri, 26 August 2016, 23:40:05
Haha nice!

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Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Tue, 30 August 2016, 08:57:55
Tomorrow is the last day to sign up for the group buy. i will be invoicing Thursday and Friday (and maybe weekend if i need to)

9/10 will be the cut off for payment unless other arrangements are made.

my intent is to place material orders by 9/12 in order to receive them in a timely manor. if there are any questions please ask them here or PM me.

thanks everyone who has already signed up! super excited about this.

here is a pre production teaser picture of a completed build (please note this is NOT the wood included in the GB)

Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Wed, 31 August 2016, 20:51:18
How many orders did you end up getting?  This seems like an extremely niche sub-group of a relatively niche section of a pretty niche interest.
Title: Re: [GB] The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Wed, 31 August 2016, 22:20:37
We have enough to proceeded with the group buy :D

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Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Thu, 01 September 2016, 09:41:48
for all of you who have joined this GB i want to say thank you. I will be starting the invoicing process later today/tonight
Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Fri, 09 September 2016, 17:32:45
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160909/10a6f2a0fb55b083ca5bd4f6f328f80b.jpg)

Starting to cut plates

Still have a few that have not paid.

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Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Sun, 11 September 2016, 20:11:31
key caps ordered.
Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Mon, 26 September 2016, 18:34:26
UPDATE: Plates are cut and finished. cases are being manufactured now.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Wed, 28 September 2016, 00:16:32
I'm getting excited again. Gonna put Godspeed keycaps on this mofo.
Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Wed, 28 September 2016, 06:35:14
I'm getting excited again. Gonna put Godspeed keycaps on this mofo.
I can't wait to see that!

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Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Thu, 29 September 2016, 13:34:58
I'm getting excited again. Gonna put Godspeed keycaps on this mofo.
I can't wait to see that!
[attachimg=1]

I should mention these keys I used are all from either the Cockpit or 40s kits.
Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Thu, 29 September 2016, 13:47:04
I'm getting excited again. Gonna put Godspeed keycaps on this mofo.
I can't wait to see that!
(Attachment Link)
Hot

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Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Thu, 29 September 2016, 14:10:19
I did another one for Keyboard & Co but it's tough with sculpted keycaps to make the rows match.

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Thu, 29 September 2016, 14:11:19
Not sure which will look better in the wood, but this keyboard is going to be massively beautiful and impractical.  I love it.
Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Thu, 29 September 2016, 14:32:26
Last one, I don't have a good render for Chronicler so I'm just using the diagram ... pretty similar to KBD & Co, unsurprisingly.  Sculpted making things very difficult.

 [attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Sun, 02 October 2016, 16:22:57
So I decided to lacquer everyone's case at no additional cost. This was not originally in the GB terms but it will prevent the boards from becoming discolored by the oils on you hands.

And oak looks really nice lacquered  

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161002/400fb7e89c2324ce03d59e20e3011926.jpg)

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Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 02 October 2016, 16:38:11
Shame I missed out on this, lovely concept and the pictures of the lacquered wood look amazing. Definitely would hope a round 2 happens at some point!
Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Thu, 06 October 2016, 19:58:14
so small update. due to the hurricane final assembly and shipment have been pushed back. i'm going to try my best to ship next weekend at the latest. i'm in SC and we are about to get hammered with rain and winds.

i have had several people interested in getting this board outside the GB. on that note i'm very interested in taking commissions on this. but i think i'll do them in more of a one-off sort of stance.

if you want one PM me and we will discuss. price point will likely be the same or close.  :thumb:

sorry again for the delays. i'm a one man shop. but my goal is to ensure everyone's board is super awesome.
Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Sun, 09 October 2016, 13:27:29
All well down in SC?  Up in the DC area we got a rainy day yesterday and windy day today.
Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Mon, 10 October 2016, 15:50:18
All well down in SC?  Up in the DC area we got a rainy day yesterday and windy day today.

we survived. power outages and a few trees down across the mid state. some flooding as well.
i planned on heading to the shop in abit and see whats what. getting back rolling with the GB stuffs and starting the hand wired fully assembled orders.
thanks for checking on me  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Wed, 12 October 2016, 20:27:36
one down two to go  :thumb:

assembled and tested. uploading the config files to the top of the thread in case anyone is interested to tinker with their layout prior to getting their kit. my goal is to ship this weekend Monday at the latest!

thanks for being patient guys/gals you are why i do this. i hope everyone enjoys their board.
Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Tue, 18 October 2016, 12:05:35
one down two to go  :thumb:

assembled and tested. uploading the config files to the top of the thread in case anyone is interested to tinker with their layout prior to getting their kit. my goal is to ship this weekend Monday at the latest!

thanks for being patient guys/gals you are why i do this. i hope everyone enjoys their board.

Looks great! How is the wrap-up process going?
Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Tue, 18 October 2016, 13:54:18
one down two to go  :thumb:

assembled and tested. uploading the config files to the top of the thread in case anyone is interested to tinker with their layout prior to getting their kit. my goal is to ship this weekend Monday at the latest!

thanks for being patient guys/gals you are why i do this. i hope everyone enjoys their board.

Looks great! How is the wrap-up process going?

wrapping up tonight, finishing up the last keyboard and starting the packaging and shipping process. its taking me longer than i would have liked. sorry for all the delays and thanks for everyone being so patient with me. first GB. hopefully not the last. lots of stuff and changes have happened to me over the last 2 months.

Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Fri, 21 October 2016, 20:34:38
one down two to go  :thumb:

assembled and tested. uploading the config files to the top of the thread in case anyone is interested to tinker with their layout prior to getting their kit. my goal is to ship this weekend Monday at the latest!

thanks for being patient guys/gals you are why i do this. i hope everyone enjoys their board.

Looks great! How is the wrap-up process going?

wrapping up tonight, finishing up the last keyboard and starting the packaging and shipping process. its taking me longer than i would have liked. sorry for all the delays and thanks for everyone being so patient with me. first GB. hopefully not the last. lots of stuff and changes have happened to me over the last 2 months.

I saw the jazz about the new job and all went down during this effort.  Happy for positive changes and custom keyboards!
Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Fri, 21 October 2016, 21:11:23
Yeah man. Thanks. Things have been crazy. Delays in  shipping happened again this week. I had to order shipping supplies. But good news for everyone is I'm flat rate priority shipping all of them! I'll have them packed and labeled  and in the mail Monday!

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Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Sat, 22 October 2016, 15:18:46
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161022/b1ca142f757e0f224a986e4c68449a86.jpg)

Everyone should have tracking in their email they used to join the GB. Thanks for all your patience. I hope everyone enjoys their boards.

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Title: Re: [GB] CLOSED - invoicing -The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Sat, 22 October 2016, 15:35:36

Everyone should have tracking in their email they used to join the GB. Thanks for all your patience. I hope everyone enjoys their boards.

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Got my tracking info!  Thanks tons for designing and optionally building these!
Title: Re: [GB] SHIPPING-The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Tue, 25 October 2016, 12:17:35
all orders should be received by end of week if not sooner!
Title: Re: [GB] SHIPPING-The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Wed, 26 October 2016, 00:18:20
I'm gonna have to put garbage caps on it until the Godspeed caps show up...

(http://i.imgur.com/SM9d1xV.jpg)

Which of those do you think will work the best?
Title: Re: [GB] SHIPPING-The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Wed, 26 October 2016, 00:23:07
I'm gonna have to put garbage caps on it until the Godspeed caps show up...

Which of those do you think will work the best?

By the way, the sculpted profile one is row 1, row 2, row 4, then upside down row 4... I could make it 2, 3, 4 since I can borrow from the other keys that I won't be using.

The fact that I only have 1, 1.75u SA key also makes me sad. It has a bit of curvature to the bottom too. May order a set of blanks to fix that left-most key.
Title: Re: [GB] SHIPPING-The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Wed, 26 October 2016, 06:30:20
I'm a fan of DSA

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Title: Re: [GB] SHIPPING-The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Wed, 26 October 2016, 21:35:15
I started playing with keycaps and have 2 problems.

Firstly, I need to pick up some lube for the stabilizers.  If I mount them right now, l the keys click down and stay down. That's easy enough.

Secondly, I was going to try out some different caps combinations and when I go to pull the caps off, the switches are popping up out of the plate. For the edge keys I can get my fingers in and hold it down when popping. The middle keys are kinda impossible.

I'm wondering if there's a tool or method for popping the caps without the switches coming off the plate. [attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] SHIPPING-The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Thu, 27 October 2016, 10:54:59
i have expierenced that once or twice before with the stabs. to fix it i usually give them alittle bend outwards. as for the switches popping out, the friction of the hole usually keeps them in place altho ive had that happen before and used a pair of tweezers or thin metal blade or similar to hold them down when pulling out the caps. i'm really sorry your having issues. let me know if there is anything i can do.
Title: Re: [GB] SHIPPING-The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Thu, 27 October 2016, 19:34:33
i have expierenced that once or twice before with the stabs. to fix it i usually give them alittle bend outwards. as for the switches popping out, the friction of the hole usually keeps them in place altho ive had that happen before and used a pair of tweezers or thin metal blade or similar to hold them down when pulling out the caps. i'm really sorry your having issues. let me know if there is anything i can do.

I'll ty bending the stabilizers a bit.

This is nothing serious. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't ignoring some specific method or missing a tool.

I'm going to plug it in and mess with the programming this weekend.
Title: Re: [GB] SHIPPING-The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: mrbishop on Thu, 27 October 2016, 19:44:35
i have expierenced that once or twice before with the stabs. to fix it i usually give them alittle bend outwards. as for the switches popping out, the friction of the hole usually keeps them in place altho ive had that happen before and used a pair of tweezers or thin metal blade or similar to hold them down when pulling out the caps. i'm really sorry your having issues. let me know if there is anything i can do.

I'll ty bending the stabilizers a bit.

This is nothing serious. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't ignoring some specific method or missing a tool.

I'm going to plug it in and mess with the programming this weekend.

cool. you did get your programming file didnt you? hopefully that will make the programming alot easier.

other than the 2 issues how is the keyboard so far?
Title: Re: [GB] SHIPPING-The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Thu, 27 October 2016, 22:33:38

[...] how is the keyboard so far?


It's very light and far more portable than my JD45 which only has a few more keys.  I'm excited to try it as a document composing input device on my iPad using the "camera adapter".  Once I get the layers worked out, I'll be unstoppable.

Also, in OS X and iOS, "space space" = ".  " so I can move the period key to the second layer without slowing down my composition.
Title: Re: [GB] SHIPPING-The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Fri, 28 October 2016, 21:25:07
I'm playing around with the TMK editor and came up with a plan to use the bottom right keys for "fn1" and "fn2" and then I was like "oh snap, I should make a thing where I hit both and go to "fn3"!

It seems like the TMK Firmware Builder website (http://kb.sized.io) has some limits in what it can do with the keycaps and things. I would like some more advanced things like tapping fn1 = '.' and tapping fn2 = '/' but I can mess with that later.  For now, does TMK allow this function key arrangement without accidentally losing the ability to get back to the default layer?

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] SHIPPING-The Pawn - 35% keyboard kit with wood case
Post by: tinyprawn on Sun, 30 October 2016, 22:29:54
That Layer 3 setup seems to work.

Played typing of the dead with my custom layout for a few hours tonight and it was awesome. I need to unlock the hardcore mode before I can switch to a numbers and symbols dictionary.