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geekhack Community => Off Topic => Topic started by: CPTBadAss on Mon, 06 July 2015, 19:53:44
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All information has been gleaned from the posts made by iMav in the Geekhack Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/113402935366843/). Any misunderstandings are mine of course. I'm not iMav and I'm not the best source of information. I'm just trying to bring awareness.
As we all know, last week, Geekhack went down. When iMav was ready for the datacenter to plug us back in, they declined to. iMav then moved us to a different datacenter. Previously, we were fortunate enough to not have to pay for the colo or datacenter services. But now that we've migrated to a new datacenter, we no longer enjoy free services. iMav needs to pay for it.
We should all consider donating money to iMav so we can directly pay for the server costs and keep Geekhack running. All server donations can go through the menu bar "Donate" tab.
I believe fohat.digs has a t-shirt fund raiser thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73490.0). I'm considering running another t-shirt buy (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59117.0) myself. I'll have a sale as well coming shortly.
This thread is to discuss how we can best support Geekhack and keep it going. And for iMav and anyone who has more information than me to answer questions.
Again, donations to help keep the server running should be sent through the donate tab on the menu bar.
Dedicated server costs are as follows:
$240/mo for server
$50/mo for backups
Believe me...we can NOT run on someone's home internet service. That would be a nightmare.
We also incur around $150 monthly for our AWS infrastructure...which provides support functions, such as email (including anti-spam, anti-virus), some administrative connectivity, etc.
It would definitely be helpful if folks would consider a monthly subscription. We will definitely come up with a cool way to identify those who contribute in this way to the community...
I very much dislike ads. GH has never been about making money. We will have some profile "flair" to recognize those that support the site. I will also, on occasion, reach out to supporters with some sort of thank you (gift, perhaps...depending on the current financial status).
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donated!
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ah nvm, different thread.
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What kinda bandwidth and cpu power does GH need.
it might be cheaper if we just do it local, and chip in some equipment and ship it to the GHer with the cheapest electric bill.
The main issue will be the power bill if we're @ over 1000 watts.
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Any ballpark figure on the amount needed to be raised?
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Any ballpark figure on the amount needed to be raised?
I honestly have no idea what the costs are nor if there is a figure. I only know that there is a cost.
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imav pls advise
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I'm ready to donate but I'd like to know how much is needed.
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I'm all for donating as well, just need a few more details like total cost of monthly operations and any other factors we should be aware of. However, I'm not sure about donating via Paypal - perhaps we should start one of those gofundme sites for GH datacenter costs?
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Dedicated server costs are as follows:
$240/mo for server
$50/mo for backups
Believe me...we can NOT run on someone's home internet service. That would be a nightmare.
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I'm just wondering why don't we use public cloud services like IBM Softlayer or AWS? Are they more expensive that local data center hosting? I'd think they have the economies of scale to be more competitive prices than local hosting.
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50 to back that thang up. Cheaper than a strip club.
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Can this run off a dedicated VPS? Can we use Amazon S3 for the db? Can we host the files locally and store/backup the db remotely? Just trying to see if a modular approach is better than relying on a purely local solution. Amazon's pricing is pretty good.
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I'm just wondering why don't we use public cloud services like IBM Softlayer or AWS? Are they more expensive that local data center hosting? I'd think they have the economies of scale to be more competitive prices than local hosting.
Based on the horsepower and bandwidth we use, AWS would be horrifically expensive. We are actually handling much of our email infrastructure on Amazon's cloud now...They are pricy.
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iMav, is it true that, as a feature for people who donate, there is a version of the site with no bugs?
No. :)
But with a $50 donation, I'll give you your very own @geekhack.org email forward. (GHusername@geekhack.org forwarded to an email account of your choosing)
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For 240 can I have somebody muted for a day? Pls
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I may be a hella poor grad student, but I could throw down for a site I waste so much time on.
Is there any sort of quasi-official donation drive in the works? I might hold out donating until that comes around. We should get some PBS quality fundraising going. I want to see Hoff telling us why 'your donation matters, it helps us bring you quality content like this,' then cut to a best of TP thread. I want to see Halverson and SpAmRaY in the background ready to take my call. Let's make this happen folks.
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For 240 can I have somebody muted for a day? Pls
I'll mute you for free. ;) All you have to do is ask, bby.
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Wow rude
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the email deal sounds awesome o.o but I would want a name change. bromono doesn't sound the best =(
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the email deal sounds awesome o.o but I would want a name change. bromono doesn't sound the best =(
your name isn't hard to say, but it does still sound terribly awkward in my head lol.
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I'd like an email address: demikisabish@geekhack.org
Thanks for chiming in on the costs iMav. Donation coming on pay day:D.
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I'm just wondering why don't we use public cloud services like IBM Softlayer or AWS? Are they more expensive that local data center hosting? I'd think they have the economies of scale to be more competitive prices than local hosting.
Based on the horsepower and bandwidth we use, AWS would be horrifically expensive. We are actually handling much of our email infrastructure on Amazon's cloud now...They are pricy.
IBM SoftLayer network bandwidth is pretty generous. AWS have low cost in compute power but when you add the bandwidth, it became very expensive. That is how they nail you. IBM SoftLayer on the other hand, has very generous network bandwidth (250GB/month outbound free), almost negligible :thumb:
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Donated. Gotta love a geekhack.org email address :D
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Donated. Gotta love a geekhack.org email address :D
All set up. Enjoy!
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Donated. Gotta love a geekhack.org email address :D
All set up. Enjoy!
:D <3
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Have you considered adding a public tracker/widget to the forum that shows progress toward monthly donation goal, kind of like Reddit Gold? I bet this would get results.
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I'd like an email address: demikisabish@geekhack.org
Thanks for chiming in on the costs iMav. Donation coming on pay day:D.
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Have you considered adding a public tracker/widget to the forum that shows progress toward monthly donation goal, kind of like Reddit Gold? I bet this would get results.
I am considering a lot of things... :)
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What about giving donors the opportunity to have a dollar sign or something by their avatar, similar to the stars or the gears that the makers have? Giving people the chance to publicly stroke their own ego may encourage more donations. Just a thought.
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after a while I came to the realisation, I spend way too much time here not to contribute
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I would love to see a way to set up a monthly donation via PayPal, not only would it not require any sort of real hit to anyone's wallet, but it would create a more sustainable system. You'd probably get more than needed a month honestly.
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I would love to see a way to set up a monthly donation via PayPal, not only would it not require any sort of real hit to anyone's wallet, but it would create a more sustainable system. You'd probably get more than needed a month honestly.
Yeah, like a Patreon type thingamabobber.
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Have you considered adding a public tracker/widget to the forum that shows progress toward monthly donation goal, kind of like Reddit Gold? I bet this would get results.
I am considering a lot of things... :)
Have you considered shutting down this site and letting everyon migrate to the superior /r/mechanicalkeyboards?
We can start by banning epzy. See if the site gets better.
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I would love to see a way to set up a monthly donation via PayPal, not only would it not require any sort of real hit to anyone's wallet, but it would create a more sustainable system. You'd probably get more than needed a month honestly.
I would totally do a monthly donation as a recurring thing!
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How about setting up a club like Deskthority? :rolleyes:
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I would love to see a way to set up a monthly donation via PayPal, not only would it not require any sort of real hit to anyone's wallet, but it would create a more sustainable system. You'd probably get more than needed a month honestly.
I would totally do a monthly donation as a recurring thing!
I would too. I feel like a vast majority of users here that visit GH on any normal basis would be totally fine with $5-10 a month. My problem with that would be that I'd forget if I had to do it manually, but having a way to automate it via PP would prevent that.
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I would love to see a way to set up a monthly donation via PayPal, not only would it not require any sort of real hit to anyone's wallet, but it would create a more sustainable system. You'd probably get more than needed a month honestly.
I would totally do a monthly donation as a recurring thing!
I would also!
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I would love to see a way to set up a monthly donation via PayPal, not only would it not require any sort of real hit to anyone's wallet, but it would create a more sustainable system. You'd probably get more than needed a month honestly.
The "Donate" button at the top of the forum now has options for either a one-time gift or a monthly subscription.
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I would love to see a way to set up a monthly donation via PayPal, not only would it not require any sort of real hit to anyone's wallet, but it would create a more sustainable system. You'd probably get more than needed a month honestly.
The "Donate" button at the top of the forum now has options for either a one-time gift or a monthly subscription.
Fantastic! Donating by the month now.
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Less 3 bottles of beer a month
That won't be hard :)
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damnit if I had known about the sub option I wouldn't have made such a random donation, ahh well still better than a bronze sub I guess
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How much do I have to donate to become a mod? How much do I have to donate to take over a mod?
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iMav, is it true that, as a feature for people who donate, there is a version of the site with no bugs?
No. :)
But with a $50 donation, I'll give you your very own @geekhack.org email forward. (GHusername@geekhack.org forwarded to an email account of your choosing)
Do spammers hate GH as much as script kiddies? While this sounds awesome two addresses sounds like a recipe for double the spam.
On second thoughts *hatches plan for Raspberry Pi e-mail server in the corner, complete with cool GH e-mail address*
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How much do I have to donate to get someone banned? How much do I have to donate to assume ownership of geekhack?
tree fiddy
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A GH email address has the added benefit of being filtered with an industry-leading anti-spam/anti-virus solution, before the email is forwarded to you. :)
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Dedicated server costs are as follows:
$240/mo for server
$50/mo for backups
Believe me...we can NOT run on someone's home internet service. That would be a nightmare.
We also incur around $150 monthly for our AWS infrastructure...which provides support functions, such as email (including anti-spam, anti-virus), some administrative connectivity, etc.
It would definitely be helpful if folks would consider a monthly subscription. We will definitely come up with a cool way to identify those who contribute in this way to the community...
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I'm about to put in a donation, and just to be clear, do you want them put through the "Donate" button, or direct through PayPal?
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As soon as I can find a stable job, I'm be setting up a monthly donation. :)
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I'm about to put in a donation, and just to be clear, do you want them put through the "Donate" button, or direct through PayPal?
Donate button.
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iMav did you get my rather drunken donation from a day or two ago? I used the info from the OP rather than the donate button... due to, reasons
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Updated the OP with where to donate. Sorry about that baldgye
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Let's get special stars for donators, or at least a wall of fame(supporters)
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Updated the OP with where to donate. Sorry about that baldgye
No worries, if I had been sober I would have used the donate button lol
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What about giving donors the opportunity to have a dollar sign or something by their avatar, similar to the stars or the gears that the makers have? Giving people the chance to publicly stroke their own ego may encourage more donations. Just a thought.
Let's get special stars for donators, or at least a wall of fame(supporters)
I'm a little conflicted about this. Your reward is that Geekhack stays running. If you like the site and community, this is the ultimate plus. Not a little star or whatever. Doesn't hurt but it's kinda superfluous in my opinion.
/me shrugs
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Yeah, I don't feel like I need a special start to show my monthly donation off.
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I generally agree with not needing a special icon, or whatever, to show off a donation. However, I also think that while the main reason of providing a donation is to keep GH up and running, the people who do donate are providing this benefit, in a small way, to the entire community. Nothing wrong with bringing attention to that, necessarily. That being said, my reason for donating is not to get any special acknowledgement, and my donation will be there regardless. I'm just saying that I don't see any harm in it.
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What about giving donors the opportunity to have a dollar sign or something by their avatar, similar to the stars or the gears that the makers have? Giving people the chance to publicly stroke their own ego may encourage more donations. Just a thought.
Let's get special stars for donators, or at least a wall of fame(supporters)
I'm a little conflicted about this. Your reward is that Geekhack stays running. If you like the site and community, this is the ultimate plus. Not a little star or whatever. Doesn't hurt but it's kinda superfluous in my opinion.
/me shrugs
But I want to be able to show that I'm in the GeekhackSuperSecretExclusiveInsidersClubForCoolPeople and that I get all the exclusive insider action that entails.
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Let's get special stars for donators, or at least a wall of fame(supporters)
Are people donating because they like GH or so people can see how generous they are?
Never mind the years of free gh.
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$ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $$
Somebody made a huge donation :eek: all praise moose's wallet
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$ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $$
Somebody made a huge donation :eek: all praise moose's wallet
Well, I am part of the super elite cool kids club.
Well I'm glad they suggested putting somebody so we can all praise how generous you truly are.
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iMav did you get my rather drunken donation from a day or two ago? I used the info from the OP rather than the donate button... due to, reasons
Yep, got it. Either way is fine. The donate button is easier, and has the option of one-time or on going donations...
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Let's get special stars for donators, or at least a wall of fame(supporters)
Are people donating because they like GH or so people can see how generous they are?
Never mind the years of free gh.
:'(
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I'm selling my Bots to help raise money for Geekhack (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73457.0). Please consider bidding :).
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Maybe it's time to charge the vendors for advertising. There are quite a few vendors here making a significant portion of their livelihoods off of the site.
Margins on some of the items sold are often nothing short of obscene.
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Maybe it's time to charge the vendors for advertising. There are quite a few vendors here making a significant portion of their livelihoods off of the site.
Margins on some of the items sold are often nothing short of obscene.
That seems like a slippery slope.
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Maybe it's time to charge the vendors for advertising. There are quite a few vendors here making a significant portion of their livelihoods off of the site.
Margins on some of the items sold are often nothing short of obscene.
start charging per WTB/WTS thread, you'll get way more money.
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If ebay can charge 10% per transaction, Geekhack should certainly charge 3%-5%
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If ebay can charge 10% per transaction, Geekhack should certainly charge 3%-5%
We can't confirm that a sale did or did not take place.
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Maybe it's time to charge the vendors for advertising. There are quite a few vendors here making a significant portion of their livelihoods off of the site.
Margins on some of the items sold are often nothing short of obscene.
That seems like a slippery slope.
The idea inherently is very sound I think. Pulling it off in a way that actually works seems to be quite a bit more difficult though. I feel like it could be very slippery indeed.
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5 dollars per thread, 1 dollar per bump.
double that if it involves CCs
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Maybe it's time to charge the vendors for advertising. There are quite a few vendors here making a significant portion of their livelihoods off of the site.
Margins on some of the items sold are often nothing short of obscene.
By vendors do you mean artisans?
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Bronze-level subscription :)
GH deserves more, but this is the best I can do for now. Thanks iMav and everyone involved in upkeep.
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Maybe it's time to charge the vendors for advertising. There are quite a few vendors here making a significant portion of their livelihoods off of the site.
Margins on some of the items sold are often nothing short of obscene.
By vendors do you mean artisans?
I would think most artisan makers do their hobbies on the side (except for maybe GON and a few others, if I'm wrong, let me know). I think Tiramisuu is referring to websites like mechanicalkeyboards.com and the like.
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Maybe it's time to charge the vendors for advertising. There are quite a few vendors here making a significant portion of their livelihoods off of the site.
Margins on some of the items sold are often nothing short of obscene.
By vendors do you mean artisans?
I would think most artisan makers do their hobbies on the side (except for maybe GON and a few others, if I'm wrong, let me know). I think Tiramisuu is referring to websites like mechanicalkeyboards.com and the like.
It gets hairy though. How do you define a vendor? Is it just anyone who isn't making and selling their own product? Are you just going to start taxing those who appear to make over a certain amount of money through the site? That seems difficult to regulate. The bigger problem is it might urge up-and-coming moneymakers to keep things small or to fake being small to slip under the payment radar. You would really create two classes of users. Those who are paying the site to advertise wares, and the cattle that keep them fed. It might seem a reasonable compromise to create ad space which can be purchased by vendors. I don't think that is sustainable without being annoying. The profitable portions of the keyboard community are fad based, and when they fade, the site may resort to pulling ads from outside the community. I can't speak for everyone, but ads really annoy me.
The forum should stay open as a place for all types of keyboard weirdness to occur. The fact that this board is Artisan heavy is a function of the desires of the user base enjoying it. This is the culture of the group. Similarly, the users on Deskthority seem to focus on more vintage keyboards simply because that is the culture that happens to be thriving there. If it is possible, running as a donation based site is, in my singular opinion, the best option. The users are passionate enough to 'buy-in' to the well-being of their community. If this fades, one would expect the site traffic to decrease with it, lessening the need for more expensive hosting.
My recommendation would be to encourage users to donate to keep the site afloat. The vendors and artisans that rely on this site have a vested interest to keep it running smoothly - and they will hopefully contribute accordingly. By providing token rewards (which avoid dividing the community into haves and have-nots, but that is another wall of text for another time) and keeping the communication lines open between the users and the administration, the site stays alive and the users become more knit into the health of the forum.
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How do you define a vendor?
This is actually fairly well-defined from the perspective of GH staff. Artisan vs vendor can sometimes be blurry lines, but we do already separate the two groups distinctly.
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I'll donate via the button when I get a chance.
From this point forward I think encouraging GB organizers to include a few bucks GH donation per participant would be healthy. Obviously as a function of the entry price.
Maybe even encouraging classified users to say "price is $30 + $3 donation" or something.
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There will be no mandatory fees regarding GH usage. With donations (one time and reoccurring subscriptions) we will find a way to thank and identify those members. Maybe even have some benefit for contributors...
But no mandatory fees/kick backs/etc.
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Has there been any consideration into a Members area? A lot of forums do this, and you pay a fee to gain access. The only issue I see with "flair" is that there is a lot of people who are not always active. So something that doesn't really benefit them.
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How do you define a vendor?
This is actually fairly well-defined from the perspective of GH staff. Artisan vs vendor can sometimes be blurry lines, but we do already separate the two groups distinctly.
I'll donate via the button when I get a chance.
From this point forward I think encouraging GB organizers to include a few bucks GH donation per participant would be healthy. Obviously as a function of the entry price.
Maybe even encouraging classified users to say "price is $30 + $3 donation" or something.
There will be no mandatory fees regarding GH usage. With donations (one time and reoccurring subscriptions) we will find a way to thank and identify those members. Maybe even have some benefit for contributors...
But no mandatory fees/kick backs/etc.
Yeah, I hope I didn't ruffle any feathers with my little diatribe there. I just thought it would be better to voice that opinion now rather than later. Strong beer also turns me into a mini-economist.
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You're posting in the members area right now
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Yeah, I hope I didn't ruffle any feathers with my little diatribe there. I just thought it would be better to voice that opinion now rather than later. Strong beer also turns me into a mini-economist.
No feathers ruffled here. I appreciate all the input and discussion. I think it would be great to see group buys, vendors, etc help support the community. I'd just rather they do so on their own and not be forced to.
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This is a keyboard forum right? Why not produce a key cap that corresponds with a donation value. For example $25=Purple $50=Green $150=Pink etc. Slap GH 2015 or something on it and mix up the colours and writing next year. Send them out once a month to reduce the PITA postage trips. Alternatively put fun for all pictures/words/faces etc on them. Essentially the worlds most expensive group buy. You know what would be a good starting GB, a Hapster to kick it off.
That would be pretty cool but of course you would need someone to sacrifice their time and effort to keep the cogs turning and in that respect a donate button is probably the least complicated.
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Actually not a bad idea (keycap idea).
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Actually not a bad idea (keycap idea).
Yeah, that is actually a really cool idea.
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I will be selling hand-screened T-shirts and will donate $5 of each sale to this fund.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73490.0
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Dedicated server costs are as follows:
$240/mo for server
$50/mo for backups
Believe me...we can NOT run on someone's home internet service. That would be a nightmare.
Thanks for the exact figures.
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I'm considering running another t-shirt buy (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=59117.0) myself. I'll have a sale as well coming shortly.
How about getting the artists of GH to design new shirts? Making threads where users can post specific ideas etc.
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How about getting the artists of GH to design new shirts?
My shirts are not intended to compete with or short-circuit any "official" Geekhack shirts.
They are one-off, hand-made on the kitchen counter, individual pieces made on a very small scale.
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Just put in for the monthly silver. I hope others will follow. Constantly having to rally support for a donation shirt/cap/karma would get a bit tedious. Strike while the iron is hot, before everyone forgets the outage.
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Just saw this thread! I'm setting up a monthly donation, but I'll do a one-time as well because I want in on that sweet, sweet @geekhack.org email action.
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GH email addresses are pretty awesome. :)
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GH email addresses are pretty awesome. :)
Indeed they are, I hope the offer's still there next month!
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Has there been any consideration into a Members area? A lot of forums do this, and you pay a fee to gain access. The only issue I see with "flair" is that there is a lot of people who are not always active. So something that doesn't really benefit them.
Terrible idea. CCs already bring elitist attitudes, let's not add onto it.
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Has there been any consideration into a Members area? A lot of forums do this, and you pay a fee to gain access. The only issue I see with "flair" is that there is a lot of people who are not always active. So something that doesn't really benefit them.
Terrible idea. CCs already bring elitist attitudes, let's not add onto it.
+1
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Just signed up for the sub option. I don't know what I'd do when slacking off at work without this site.
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T-Shirts, Coffee Mugs, Keycaps... Open a store.
Geekhack could do well in resale of piece parts, switches, branded materials.
Plenty of ways of monetizing the site adequately to be self sustaining or even mildly profitable. At some point the hours required to keep the site need to be paid hours rather than simply a labour of love.
Banners ads on the main page would are another revenue source. I haven't noticed if used.
The process for monetizing a popular web forum is pretty much standard these days. Hoping for a stable stream of donations is generally not terribly sustainable past the initial request. The ongoing monthly costs and time will continue.
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Hoping for a stable stream of donations is generally not terribly sustainable past the initial request. The ongoing monthly costs and time will continue.
Ads are an abomination.
That is why DT has a club with members.
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Hoping for a stable stream of donations is generally not terribly sustainable past the initial request. The ongoing monthly costs and time will continue.
Ads are an abomination.
That is why DT has a club with members.
I unabashedly block ads, so no revenue from jerks like me.
The word "monetizing" makes me poop myself in anger, but just a little bit. Like, I start tensing up, balling my fists, grinding my teeth, and then it just sort of turtles out for a second.
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Indeed they are, I hope the offer's still there next month!
Absolutely.
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I very much dislike ads. GH has never been about making money. We will have some profile "flair" to recognize those that support the site. I will also, on occasion, reach out to supporters with some sort of thank you (gift, perhaps...depending on the current financial status).
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I very much dislike ads. GH has never been about making money. We will have some profile "flair" to recognize those that support the site. I will also, on occasion, reach out to supporters with some sort of thank you (gift, perhaps...depending on the current financial status).
No need to ask for money then spend that money on giving gifts to people. You definitely shouldn't feel pressured to do gifts.
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Subscription Enabled
Never subscribed to an addiction before. :p
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Subscription Enabled
Never subscribed to an addiction before. :p
Great minds think alike. I just did the same.
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I like free and I don't like ads. I hope the voluntary route works for you. Going into your own pocket on a monthly basis for a website is a bit much unless you can turn it into a tax write off or it looks good on your resume.
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Dedicated server costs are as follows:
$240/mo for server
$50/mo for backups
Believe me...we can NOT run on someone's home internet service. That would be a nightmare.
we regularly saturate our 100Mb/s drop, with an average load of about 20Mb/s and rising.
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Dedicated server costs are as follows:
$240/mo for server
$50/mo for backups
Believe me...we can NOT run on someone's home internet service. That would be a nightmare.
we regularly saturate our 100Mb/s drop, with an average load of about 20Mb/s and rising.
Talking about bandwidth costs, do we have any idea how much of that is media (uploads/attachments)? The reason I ask is because I headed up a cost analysis for media storage at my place of work and we found that moving our media hosting to Amazon S3 (not EC2) saved us a ton of money. The only catch is that we had to write our own Joomla plugin from scratch to support it (there were some others available but we found them to be garbage). So unless SMF already supports this (natively or through a plugin), it might not be practical.
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Dedicated server costs are as follows:
$240/mo for server
$50/mo for backups
Believe me...we can NOT run on someone's home internet service. That would be a nightmare.
We also incur around $150 monthly for our AWS infrastructure...which provides support functions, such as email (including anti-spam, anti-virus), some administrative connectivity, etc.
Can we get some idea of the RAM, CPU, DISK, monthly transfer, and Mbps required? Is a dedicated server really needed? Could this be hosted on a VPS somewhere?
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Talking about bandwidth costs, do we have any idea how much of that is media (uploads/attachments)?
I am ignorant about this issue, and have complained when simple uploads failed or crashed, such as when I built my guides, but shunting anything but small files over to something like Imgur is not really that cumbersome, if it helped the cause.
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Talking about bandwidth costs, do we have any idea how much of that is media (uploads/attachments)?
I am ignorant about this issue, and have complained when simple uploads failed or crashed, such as when I built my guides, but shunting anything but small files over to something like Imgur is not really that cumbersome, if it helped the cause.
It wouldn't really make a dent unless everyone did it. I'm referring to back-end software that transparently saves user uploads in protected cloud-storage, so that all the GH web server has to worry about serving are the text web pages.
This saves on server storage space, as well as bandwidth, since users download the images/media directly from Amazon's servers.
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I have PM'ed iMav a couple times, but he has not responded. I can probably reduce the infrastructure costs quite a bit. I work at CloudOps.com and we have a lot of services including cloud.ca. I have talked to my company and they are willing to offer us a discount. They said that if we put something like 'infrastructure sponsored by cloud.ca' in our footer or something like that they would give us an even bigger discount. It should get the infra costs down quite a bit. Reducing monthly costs would help a lot...
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I already love cloud.ca!
That's a great domain name btw.
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as imav said, there is a fixed colo cost. bandwidth is only limited by the size of our drop.
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I have PM'ed iMav a couple times, but he has not responded. I can probably reduce the infrastructure costs quite a bit. I work at CloudOps.com and we have a lot of services including cloud.ca. I have talked to my company and they are willing to offer us a discount. They said that if we put something like 'infrastructure sponsored by cloud.ca' in our footer or something like that they would give us an even bigger discount. It should get the infra costs down quite a bit. Reducing monthly costs would help a lot...
Definitely not this..
Swill's gonna get all first dibs on the clacks.. we must not let Swill steal all the clacks..
^^ that's something to keep in mind for Geekhackers...
Tp4, has not, will not, ever be involved in clacks.
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Dedicated server costs are as follows:
$240/mo for server
$50/mo for backups
Believe me...we can NOT run on someone's home internet service. That would be a nightmare.
We also incur around $150 monthly for our AWS infrastructure...which provides support functions, such as email (including anti-spam, anti-virus), some administrative connectivity, etc.
Can we get some idea of the RAM, CPU, DISK, monthly transfer, and Mbps required? Is a dedicated server really needed? Could this be hosted on a VPS somewhere?
My guess.. Geekhack can probably run on a quadcore, given enough ram.. and some SSDs on solid pcie controllers..
the major hardware cost will be those pcie controller cards..
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I have PM'ed iMav a couple times, but he has not responded. I can probably reduce the infrastructure costs quite a bit. I work at CloudOps.com and we have a lot of services including cloud.ca. I have talked to my company and they are willing to offer us a discount. They said that if we put something like 'infrastructure sponsored by cloud.ca' in our footer or something like that they would give us an even bigger discount. It should get the infra costs down quite a bit. Reducing monthly costs would help a lot...
Definitely not this..
Swill's gonna get all first dibs on the clacks.. we must not let Swill steal all the clacks..
^^ that's something to keep in mind for Geekhackers...
Tp4, has not, will not, ever be involved in clacks.
Haha. Ironically I have spent money on clacks and still don't own any.
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swill, we are in a 6-month contract currently. So, we won't be making any additional changes near-term. (plus, I'd hate to move immediately after getting all spun back up).
A large reason we ran into the issue we did was because our relationship with the datacenter was predicated on a personal favor. I'd hate to walk in to the same situation and have our continued stability contingent on someone's relationship with their employer. There are benefits to being a full, paying customer... :)
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Just a friendly reminder this is still a thing. Help geekhack stay online :).
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swill, we are in a 6-month contract currently. So, we won't be making any additional changes near-term. (plus, I'd hate to move immediately after getting all spun back up).
A large reason we ran into the issue we did was because our relationship with the datacenter was predicated on a personal favor. I'd hate to walk in to the same situation and have our continued stability contingent on someone's relationship with their employer. There are benefits to being a full, paying customer... :)
Thanks for letting me know. If you want to check out the service in 6 months to see if it would be a good fit, I can give you a 30 day trial on the service so you can check it out.
You would be considered a "full paying customer" if we went this route and my relationship with my employer would not factor in. I would basically just broker the discount rate associated with your account and then I would no longer be implicated in the relationship. It is valuable for our company to support our type of community. Its an added bonus that we are a relatively technical crowd, which is why they would be interested in trading an additional discount for a link in the footer or such. From their perspective it could lead to other paying customers. So this would be a standard business deal, I would just be in a position help broker it a little more favorable in our direction.
Everything is self service like amazon, so you would not need to depend on anyone to access your infra.
I am sure the offer will be open if you choose to take us up on it later, so just let me know if anything changes and you are interested. :)
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Like Geekhack? Cherry? Live in CONUS? Check this out:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73815.0
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Yeah, I hope I didn't ruffle any feathers with my little diatribe there. I just thought it would be better to voice that opinion now rather than later. Strong beer also turns me into a mini-economist.
No feathers ruffled here. I appreciate all the input and discussion. I think it would be great to see group buys, vendors, etc help support the community. I'd just rather they do so on their own and not be forced to.
Are vendors other than Cherry starting to pitch in?
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So how do I cash in on my @geekhack.org address?
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So how do I cash in on my @geekhack.org address?
I paid, then PMed imav and asked for an email address.
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How much do I need to donate to get the rights of CPT for a whole month?
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Is there any way to still get a T-shirt? Those look spiffy.
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How much do I need to donate to get the rights of CPT for a whole month?
What do you mean by rights? :eek:
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Is there any way to still get a T-shirt? Those look spiffy.
Do you mean these Cherry shirts (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73815.msg1808361#msg1808361)?
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Is there any way to still get a T-shirt? Those look spiffy.
Do you mean these Cherry shirts (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=73815.msg1808361#msg1808361)?
Those are also cool, but I was referring to the wonderful GH Logo ones that LastPilot designed.
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Those are also cool, but I was referring to the wonderful GH Logo ones that LastPilot designed.
I ran the GB for them. I don't have any extras. I might run a new buy with a different logo though.
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How much do I need to donate to get the rights of CPT for a whole month?
What do you mean by rights? :eek:
Owning you... Mwahahaha /evil
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How much do I need to donate to get the rights of CPT for a whole month?
What do you mean by rights? :eek:
Owning you... Mwahahaha /evil
You want the rights to CPT, then.
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How much do I need to donate to get the rights of CPT for a whole month?
If you donate a certain amount....say enough for a plane ticket for me and to keep the lights on at Geekhack for 2 months, I would be happy to spend a month with you ;).
Just a reminder that this is an ongoing thing. Paypal just deducted my first monthly donation to Geekhack. Here's to many more :D.
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What's the status of funding?
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Sent you a PM iMav about changing the address my GH email forwards to
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Sent you a PM iMav about changing the address my GH email forwards to
;)
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What's the status of funding?
+1
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(Reposting)
We had made enough to cover a few months...however, several of the original orderers backed out. So we still have lots of tshirts and stickers.
As far as reoccurring support is concerned, we have enough reoccurring support to cover about one-fifth to one-fourth of our costs...so that is encouraging.
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donated via subscription
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is there a Donate button i'm not aware of?
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is there a Donate button i'm not aware of?
See the bar where "Messages" and "Profile" is? Look over slightly and there's "Donate".
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is there a Donate button i'm not aware of?
In the menu bar up at the top (with Home, Watched, Unread, etc).
It leads here: http://geekhack.org/donate.html
:thumb:
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is there a Donate button i'm not aware of?
In the menu bar up at the top (with Home, Watched, Unread, etc).
It leads here: http://geekhack.org/donate.html
:thumb:
RIGHT im off to donate then to the Eye Doctor.
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I'm a monthly supporter now :thumb:
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I'm a monthly supporter now :thumb:
Welcome to the cool kids' club!!!
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I like free and I don't like ads. I hope the voluntary route works for you. Going into your own pocket on a monthly basis for a website is a bit much unless you can turn it into a tax write off or it looks good on your resume.
I see it as investing in something that I use on a daily basis. That hardly seems like too much to do for something I enjoy so much. I can give up a few cups of coffee or a few beers a month to help GH.
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I can give up a few cups of coffee or a few beers a month to help GH.
I dunno, I've seen you drink coffee. :rolleyes:
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I can give up a few cups of coffee or a few beers a month to help GH.
I dunno, I've seen you drink coffee. :rolleyes:
True that, I'll give up something more trivial like tooth past or toilet paper or face razors for life :thumb:
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I can give up a few cups of coffee or a few beers a month to help GH.
I dunno, I've seen you drink coffee. :rolleyes:
True that, I'll give up something more trivial like tooth past or toilet paper or face razors for life :thumb:
I can get behind that. :thumb:
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i do like that GH is free of ads, but i wouldn't mind if it was kept to banner/side and relevant to the forum, i'm sure some of the keyboard oriented shops could be interested? :)
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Completely forgot about this until I saw it in spy - signed up for monthly.
While talking about costs though did this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70879.0) ever get done? If not why not?
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Completely forgot about this until I saw it in spy - signed up for monthly.
While talking about costs though did this (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=70879.0) ever get done? If not why not?
I mention in that thread that this has been accomplished.
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There are quite a few artisans making $thousands$ of dollars on this site.
How much are they contributing to the operating costs?
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i'm trying to get a build together to auction or something. all proceeds will go to GH. i started a thread on IC if anyone is interested. trying to give back !
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I setup a recurring donation but it looks like it was cancelled and I was refunded. Just curious as to why that happened.
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If you're not into the >>DEALS<< tab (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82561.0), now might be a good time to reconsider a monthly, quarterly, or one time donation to geekhack. The backend isn't free to run nor should iMav have to shoulder all the costs. But we all should consider contributing to help keep this place running.
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If you're not into the >>DEALS<< tab (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82561.0), now might be a good time to reconsider a monthly, quarterly, or one time donation to geekhack. The backend isn't free to run nor should iMav have to shoulder all the costs. But we all should consider contributing to help keep this place running.
I never received an answer to my previous post:
I setup a recurring donation but it looks like it was cancelled and I was refunded. Just curious as to why that happened.
Still curious as to why my payment was cancelled as apparently money is still needed?
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If you're not into the >>DEALS<< tab (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82561.0), now might be a good time to reconsider a monthly, quarterly, or one time donation to geekhack. The backend isn't free to run nor should iMav have to shoulder all the costs. But we all should consider contributing to help keep this place running.
anyone up for setting up one of those T-shirt fundraisers? may be a good sub-thread. i love deals as much as the next guy but i like t-shirts better :D
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I never received an answer to my previous post:
I setup a recurring donation but it looks like it was cancelled and I was refunded. Just curious as to why that happened.
Still curious as to why my payment was cancelled as apparently money is still needed?
That's an iMav question. I just made a thread to spread awareness since I don't see much else being done. I have no involvement in the back end at all. FWIW, my recurring donation hasn't had any issues.
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I never received an answer to my previous post:
I setup a recurring donation but it looks like it was cancelled and I was refunded. Just curious as to why that happened.
Still curious as to why my payment was cancelled as apparently money is still needed?
That's an iMav question. I just made a thread to spread awareness since I don't see much else being done. I have no involvement in the back end at all. FWIW, my recurring donation hasn't had any issues.
Fair enough
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amazon best company, you guys should get prime
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Gold-tier get! :thumb:
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ok im not the most observant person and been looking for the donation link for a long time. Just found its in the header after reading the OP :-[, did the monthly subscription.
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Can we first get some transparency from iMav ? how much does he need? and a total how much we contributed a month? I am ready to contribute, but iMavs lack of involvement with the community turns me off to donating
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has anybody tried just IMing him and asking about a transparency report?
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Donated! Sorry I'm a poor student that pays his studies all by himself, I would give me if I could. I might next month!
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:spam:
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