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Offline Hzza

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Re: [IC] GMK RGBK Mod Pack - New Mock Up Received!
« Reply #100 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 12:44:00 »
Just chiming in again to say that I love the symbol only shifts and getting Alt Gr as well is a nice bonus.

FWIW, I wouldn't use yellow winkeys; I prefer to just have the controls, alts and shifts colourful and leave everything else standard.

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« Reply #101 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 12:44:53 »
I really like the addition of the AltGr keys.

Personally I don't care much for win/menu keys as I wouldn't use them. But if the majority prefers these keys being added, I don't see a problem in that either.

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« Reply #102 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 12:51:18 »
You have my interest.
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« Reply #103 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 12:59:42 »
My two cents:

I'd prefer to have the set RGB clean and don't include yellow keys, I don't care for Windows/Menu keys.

Instead of admiralvorian's suggestion of 1.75u Control, I'd like to see a red R4 1.25u CapsLock and a red R5 1.5u CapsLock added.

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« Reply #104 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 13:06:28 »
Feng's rgby was pretty spot on.


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« Reply #105 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 14:56:44 »
Feng's rgby was pretty spot on.

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49$ a set, maybe an extra Esc, everyone's happy.

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« Reply #106 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 15:01:16 »
New mock up received. Feedback is welcome!

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just perfect for me! please keep AltGr's and ISO shifts (without legends) ;)
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Re: [IC] GMK RGBK Mod Pack - New Mock Up Received!
« Reply #107 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 15:15:58 »
Feng's rgby was pretty spot on.

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49$ a set, maybe an extra Esc, everyone's happy.

Was it $49 before shipping? But like I said before, if we get more than enough orders I will gladly add menu/windows keys.

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« Reply #108 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 15:21:28 »
Was it $49 before shipping? But like I said before, if we get more than enough orders I will gladly add menu/windows keys.

Yes before: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54442.0

I don't care for the 4 Alt Gr's, not having the right size key is one thing but it's a lot extra considering all I and many other need are:

 

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Re: [IC] GMK RGBK Mod Pack - New Mock Up Received!
« Reply #109 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 15:24:25 »
It still seems backwards to me to add 'Alt Gr' and ISO shift keys and say "I might add winkeys l8r", rather than the reverse.

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« Reply #110 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 15:31:57 »
It still seems backwards to me to add 'Alt Gr' and ISO shift keys and say "I might add winkeys l8r", rather than the reverse.

If the goal is to create comprehensive set of RGBK, I think it makes perfect sense.

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Re: [IC] GMK RGBK Mod Pack - New Mock Up Received!
« Reply #111 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 16:07:53 »
ISO user here, I don't get why people want the AltGr key, I think it looks much cleaner with two normal Alt.

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« Reply #112 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 16:35:09 »
Yup, count me in for one.

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Re: [IC] GMK RGBK Mod Pack - New Mock Up Received!
« Reply #113 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 16:37:25 »
It still seems backwards to me to add 'Alt Gr' and ISO shift keys and say "I might add winkeys l8r", rather than the reverse.
I can't speak for everyone here, but there are a lot of ISO, as well as WKL users here.  With that in mind we wanted to provide compatibility to those that are typically left out.  I am not saying that there are not many WinKey users, but our initial plan was to run RGBK.  With all of the interest in WK, we will consider it depending on cost and final order amount. 

We are doing our best to make this set all encompassing for everyone.  Adding WK's to the set could push it over the $50 mark, and could prevent some people to buy a set.  You have to remember that geekhack has all walks of life as members.  Some members are older, some are still in high school.  We are aiming this set to as many people as possible while still making it affordable.  If there ends up being an overwhelming amount of orders, WK support will be the first thing added.  Until then, we are going to stick with our initial plan of max compatibility.

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Re: [IC] GMK RGBK Mod Pack - New Mock Up Received!
« Reply #114 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 16:48:57 »
ISO user here, I don't get why people want the AltGr key, I think it looks much cleaner with two normal Alt.

lol, never heard of a ISO user that hated AltGr... crazy times we live! Do you know that AltGr is a historical combo for Control+Alt right? A bit of info for the newbies, btw: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key
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Re: [IC] GMK RGBK Mod Pack - New Mock Up Received!
« Reply #115 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 17:33:11 »
Was it $49 before shipping? But like I said before, if we get more than enough orders I will gladly add menu/windows keys.

Yes before: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54442.0

I don't care for the 4 Alt Gr's, not having the right size key is one thing but it's a lot extra considering all I and many other need are:

 
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Well hopefully our kits will be under that $49 dollar mark even with shipping. I want this to be affordable.

It still seems backwards to me to add 'Alt Gr' and ISO shift keys and say "I might add winkeys l8r", rather than the reverse.

If the goal is to create comprehensive set of RGBK, I think it makes perfect sense.

This. It is supposed to be able to be used with any layout possible.

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Re: [IC] GMK RGBK Mod Pack - New Mock Up Received!
« Reply #116 on: Thu, 25 June 2015, 21:27:45 »
New mock up received. Feedback is welcome!

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Feng's rgby was pretty spot on.

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I would like to have symbol+text on both my shift keys. So if we could add a symbol+text left ISO shift it would be nice. Like Feng's GB.


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Re: [IC] GMK RGBK Mod Pack - New Mock Up Received!
« Reply #117 on: Fri, 26 June 2015, 04:10:32 »
This. It is supposed to be able to be used with any layout possible.

I know you'll not want to add it. But if you really want "any layout possible", you need to add a 2u Shift for G80-11900 support

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« Reply #118 on: Fri, 26 June 2015, 04:17:44 »
Wow wow wow. New mockup is perfect for my Viper ha ha ha  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK RGBK Mod Pack - New Mock Up Received!
« Reply #119 on: Fri, 26 June 2015, 09:23:55 »
ISO user here, I don't get why people want the AltGr key, I think it looks much cleaner with two normal Alt.
lol, never heard of a ISO user that hated AltGr... crazy times we live! Do you know that AltGr is a historical combo for Control+Alt right? A bit of info for the newbies, btw: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key
"Hate" is the wrong word, I just don't really care. As I said I think the normal Alt, beeing just one word, has a much cleaner look.

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Re: [IC] GMK RGBK Mod Pack - New Mock Up Received!
« Reply #120 on: Thu, 02 July 2015, 11:18:59 »
What's the consensus on paying for sorting for faster shipping? It's a hefty 2 euros per set, but it will allow for faster shipping.

Other tid-bits of information are that MOQ is 250 sets just like normal. I am inquiring about extra keys at price breaks so if we do hit that then we will be looking at getting the 1u R4 window/menu keys. Price is still tentative as we must still figure out all of our applicable fees. We are hoping to have it around or below ~$50/set before shipping.

If that price is too high, we can look at cutting some of the "alt gr" keys. Please leave your feedback.

We will also have the bonus of being able to choose 1 key that is can be made using any of the three colors in the set. The legend can be whatever we want but it will most likely be a "code", "joker", or "esc". Which color and legend would you guys like to see? Red, Blue or Green?
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Re: [IC] GMK RGBK Mod Pack - New Mock Up Received!
« Reply #121 on: Thu, 02 July 2015, 11:21:35 »
What's the consensus on paying for sorting for faster shipping? It's a hefty 2 euros per set, but it will allow for faster shipping.

Other tid-bits of information are that MOQ is 250 sets just like normal. I am inquiring about extra keys at price breaks so if we do hit that then we will be looking at getting the 1u R4 window/menu keys. Price is still tentative as we must still figure out all of our applicable fees. We are hoping to have it around or below ~$40/set before shipping.

If that price is too high, we can look at cutting some of the "alt gr" keys. Please leave your feedback.

We will also have the bonus of being able to choose 1 key that is can be made using any of the three colors in the set. The legend can be whatever we want but it will most likely be a "code", "joker", or "esc". Which color and legend would you guys like to see? Red, Blue or Green?
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Re: [IC] GMK RGBK Mod Pack - New Mock Up Received!
« Reply #122 on: Thu, 02 July 2015, 12:56:38 »
What's the consensus on paying for sorting for faster shipping? It's a hefty 2 euros per set, but it will allow for faster shipping.

Other tid-bits of information are that MOQ is 250 sets just like normal. I am inquiring about extra keys at price breaks so if we do hit that then we will be looking at getting the 1u R4 window/menu keys. Price is still tentative as we must still figure out all of our applicable fees. We are hoping to have it around or below ~$40/set before shipping.

If that price is too high, we can look at cutting some of the "alt gr" keys. Please leave your feedback.

We will also have the bonus of being able to choose 1 key that is can be made using any of the three colors in the set. The legend can be whatever we want but it will most likely be a "code", "joker", or "esc". Which color and legend would you guys like to see? Red, Blue or Green?
winkey

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Re: [IC] GMK RGBK Mod Pack - New Mock Up Received!
« Reply #123 on: Thu, 02 July 2015, 14:02:51 »
I am inquiring about extra keys at price breaks so if we do hit that then we will be looking at getting the 1u R4 window/menu keys.

Why 1u? 1.25u would be more useful to people than a non standard 1u size

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Re: [IC] GMK RGBK Mod Pack - New Mock Up Received!
« Reply #124 on: Thu, 02 July 2015, 14:08:49 »
I am inquiring about extra keys at price breaks so if we do hit that then we will be looking at getting the 1u R4 window/menu keys.

Why 1u? 1.25u would be more useful to people than a non standard 1u size
I would personally think more people are going to be using this with Classic Beige, and if I had to guess, I would guess more people are going to be putting classic beige on wkl layouts

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« Reply #125 on: Thu, 02 July 2015, 15:31:58 »
I am inquiring about extra keys at price breaks so if we do hit that then we will be looking at getting the 1u R4 window/menu keys.

Why 1u? 1.25u would be more useful to people than a non standard 1u size

Exactly

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« Reply #126 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 07:38:33 »
Missed this thread until now!

Of course I'd be interested :thumb:

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« Reply #127 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 08:13:37 »
Yellow. White font. I like that.

Feng's rgby was pretty spot on.

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« Reply #128 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 09:13:49 »
Just wanna let you know that I will br all over this
Been looking for rgb gmk with black font, it goes well with classic beige than those with white font

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« Reply #129 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 09:42:23 »
Would love to have this set!!!
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« Reply #130 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 10:09:50 »
As an iso user, erase alt gr and add yellow blank 1.25  keys.

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« Reply #131 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 10:32:25 »
I'm all over this. As a new Cherry MX user, I don't have any RGB sets; this'll be my first.
But I'd love to have a WinKey and Esc later if you make them.
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« Reply #132 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 10:50:53 »
Yes I would be interested

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« Reply #133 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 11:14:10 »
Nice, I've been hoping for some RGBK  :D

Though now I'm going to need a red GMK Esc with black lettering to go with this. If you give a mouse a cookie..

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« Reply #134 on: Mon, 06 July 2015, 16:31:35 »
Pls add Esc! and windows key (1u and 1.25u)

I believe more people would be happy, all my keyboard include windows key, only Ctrl Alt and Shift can not fit me
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Re: [IC] GMK RGBK Mod Pack - New Mock Up Received!
« Reply #135 on: Mon, 06 July 2015, 20:42:16 »
Not sure if everyone saw this but:

 "We will also have the bonus of being able to choose 1 key that is can be made using any of the three colors in the set. The legend can be whatever we want but it will most likely be a "code", "joker", or "esc". Which color and legend would you guys like to see? Red, Blue or Green?"

Let me know guys.

Also as for price, we are looking at somewhere in the ball park of $42 before shipping per set. That is NOT final.

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« Reply #136 on: Mon, 06 July 2015, 22:38:13 »
One key? Perfect, I like to have two extra keys. I say, let's have two yellow 1,25 keys :-)

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« Reply #137 on: Mon, 06 July 2015, 22:45:27 »
One key? Perfect, I like to have two extra keys. I say, let's have two yellow 1,25 keys :-)

I should mention that this extra key would be row 1. However as long as we get enough orders for a price break Ghost and I are prepared to add on yellow windows keys.

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Re: [IC] GMK RGBK Mod Pack - New Mock Up Received!
« Reply #138 on: Tue, 07 July 2015, 10:13:10 »
One key? Perfect, I like to have two extra keys. I say, let's have two yellow 1,25 keys :-)

I should mention that this extra key would be row 1. However as long as we get enough orders for a price break Ghost and I are prepared to add on yellow windows keys.

Yellow Win keys (and an orange Esc) would be divine. In any case, I'm already in.

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« Reply #139 on: Tue, 07 July 2015, 21:39:28 »
yellow 1×win and yellow ESC

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« Reply #140 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 07:13:54 »
I have to put my vote on a red Esc with black lettering.

Basic, but it'd look perfect with Photek's beige and keep the theme of both. Besides, if it doesn't exist on google, I want it


If orange/etc. were preferable because of the color conflict with Control, I'd understand--just love me some red Esc's

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« Reply #141 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 07:31:43 »
I have to put my vote on a red Esc with black lettering.

Basic, but it'd look perfect with Photek's beige and keep the theme of both. Besides, if it doesn't exist on google, I want it
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If orange/etc. were preferable because of the color conflict with Control, I'd understand--just love me some red Esc's

Odd idea  :eek:

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« Reply #142 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 07:34:23 »
Our options are either red, blue, or green with black text. It's up to everyone which row, 1 or 4, and which legend, ESC/joker/code. Me personally, I think ESC would be the best option to maximize usability. Let us know your thoughts, we will be choosing the key by Monday.

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« Reply #143 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 07:40:18 »
I like the red esc with black lettering idea

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« Reply #144 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 07:52:30 »
I like the red esc with black lettering idea
Thank you Blackhawk.

This is the type of info we need. Keep your thoughts coming.

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« Reply #145 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 07:53:52 »
I like the red esc with black lettering idea

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« Reply #146 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 07:56:02 »
Black on red Esc is cool and not super common. I like the idea of a black on green row 4 code as well; it could go in-between ctl and alt on winkeyless boards or right of shift on split shift boards. Only problem is it isn't all that useful on winkey/non split shift boards...

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« Reply #147 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 08:02:40 »
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Re: [IC] GMK RGBK Mod Pack - New Mock Up Received!
« Reply #148 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 08:17:28 »
To me this mockup :




is still perfect.


But if people want Esc Key, black on Red is great . But put at least 2 in it, not just one, since this kit can populate at least 2 boards.

Be carefull about not adding too much caps It can raise the price of the kit by a lot.
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« Reply #149 on: Wed, 08 July 2015, 08:33:57 »
To me this mockup :

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is still perfect.


But if people want Esc Key, black on Red is great . But put at least 2 in it, not just one, since this kit can populate at least 2 boards.

Be carefull about not adding too much caps It can raise the price of the kit by a lot.
Well this is a freebie being thrown in by GMK, so it would only be on cap.