Post by: norbauer on Fri, 07 April 2017, 12:46:40
After the surprisingly successful first round of my CNC aluminum cases Cooler Master TKL boards, it turns out that folks seem to be really into them (https://shop.norbauer.com/pages/community-praise-for-our-custom-keyboard-cases). So, after a barrage of (friendly) requests, I've decided to offer them one more time. :)
If you're interested in joining, check it out:
https://shop.norbauer.com :cool:
I've worked really hard to strike a good deal with the factory, so I'm happy to report that price actually starts lower than last time ($199), and it includes more—such as riser feet, which were previously a $15 add-on kit, and improved shipping and packaging. I'm also using an upgraded (more expensive) anodizing vendor to ensure a good match between top and bottom halves of the case (which, for various technical reasons, is always tricky to achieve.)
International shipping rates have also been markedly reduced, as I've figured out a way to avoid those parcels having to make a costly pit-stop for re-packaging in the United States.
Group buy ends April 21st @ midnight PST, just two weeks from now. Earlier orders are fulfilled earlier when possible, so order early and often! ;D
A whole range of new interesting colors and finishes are available, for example:
Dark Blue
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/blue-corner-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491518509)
Dark Gray
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/dark-gray-corner-1_03fea269-80d2-459e-bf8e-02d684939b47_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491518509)
Along with some other crazy off-the-wall options for lovers of the arcane and extravagant. :rolleyes:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/retro-green-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491518509)
I'm happy to answer any questions, and please let me know if I've forgotten anything.
In the meantime, here is a video I made about the making of round 1
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 07 April 2017, 13:04:35
Post by: zslane on Fri, 07 April 2017, 13:09:47
Post by: adamcobabe on Fri, 07 April 2017, 13:24:48
Post by: sherryton on Fri, 07 April 2017, 13:25:42
Are the colors on your website and Originative different?
Galactic Blue = Navy Blue
Only difference is we have Black and Coral Red! I was highly inspired by the Retro Green color!
Post by: clasicks on Fri, 07 April 2017, 13:34:41
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Fri, 07 April 2017, 13:44:00
Are the colors on your website and Originative different?
Galactic Blue = Navy Blue
Only difference is we have Black and Coral Red! I was highly inspired by the Retro Green color!
Any chance of a bigger picture of Coral Red than that teeny tiny thumbnail? Though it looks like a render so I guess maybe there's no production sample to show?
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 07 April 2017, 13:48:29
Are the colors on your website and Originative different?
Galactic Blue = Navy Blue
Only difference is we have Black and Coral Red! I was highly inspired by the Retro Green color!
Any chance of a bigger picture of Coral Red than that teeny tiny thumbnail? Though it looks like a render so I guess maybe there's no production sample to show?
Correct. That one is a rendering and I'll be getting those custom powder-coated here in the Bay Area for Originative. The reason that powder is so expensive on this group buy is I'm using a much more high-end shop than I was able to find for the last round.
The coral color will be an approximate Pantone match for 178C
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/coral.png)
It's actually a really nice complement to the Retro/Seafoam green that I'm running in the core group buy.
Post by: need on Fri, 07 April 2017, 13:49:08
Post by: zslane on Fri, 07 April 2017, 13:54:54
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 07 April 2017, 14:11:17
What's the height of the case front when measured vertically?
24.8mm
So at the end of the IC thread it was implied that the other colors could come in the brushed variant, not just galactic blue. How would one go about ordering a brushed tactical gray case?
Let me mess around in Photoshop and see if I can create a plausible looking mock-up based on my pic of the blue case. If so, I can just add it right into the Shopify store, which is much easier for everybody. Just give me a few hours, and I'll see what I can come up with.
Post by: cynviloq on Fri, 07 April 2017, 14:28:59
Are the colors on your website and Originative different?
Galactic Blue = Navy Blue
Only difference is we have Black and Coral Red! I was highly inspired by the Retro Green color!
Any chance of a bigger picture of Coral Red than that teeny tiny thumbnail? Though it looks like a render so I guess maybe there's no production sample to show?
Correct. That one is a rendering and I'll be getting those custom powder-coated here in the Bay Area for Originative. The reason that powder is so expensive on this group buy is I'm using a much more high-end shop than I was able to find for the last round.
The coral color will be an approximate Pantone match for 178CShow Image(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/coral.png)
It's actually a really nice complement to the Retro/Seafoam green that I'm running in the core group buy.
my body isn't ready
Post by: zslane on Fri, 07 April 2017, 14:35:04
What's the height of the case front when measured vertically?
24.8mmSo at the end of the IC thread it was implied that the other colors could come in the brushed variant, not just galactic blue. How would one go about ordering a brushed tactical gray case?
Let me mess around in Photoshop and see if I can create a plausible looking mock-up based on my pic of the blue case. If so, I can just add it right into the Shopify store, which is much easier for everybody. Just give me a few hours, and I'll see what I can come up with.
Awesome!
I'm prepared to buy both a galactic blue and a tactical gray case. I just have to decide if I want bushed or non-brushed.
Post by: poolside on Fri, 07 April 2017, 14:41:38
Will that apply to the mating surfaces too?
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 07 April 2017, 14:46:17
From the retro-green picture in the OP, it looks like powder-coated cases will have their interior surfaces covered. :thumb:
Will that apply to the mating surfaces too?
I'm actually still vacillating on that. This new shop I'm working with does amazing work, and they masked the samples they made for me, but only along the mating surfaces and (as you noticed), not the interior of the case. These didn't suffer any of the problems we saw on some of the edges last time because they did a more meticulous job of it, but honestly I think they can go ahead and powder coat even the mating surfaces since I adjusted the tolerances a bit to compensate. I'll do some tests while the cases are being manufactured (with a leftover case I have from r1) to figure out what the best way to get these coated is, and we can just go with whatever yields the best results. :)
Post by: zslane on Fri, 07 April 2017, 14:55:39
Post by: TheEerieCold on Fri, 07 April 2017, 15:09:42
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 07 April 2017, 15:11:17
So at the end of the IC thread it was implied that the other colors could come in the brushed variant, not just galactic blue. How would one go about ordering a brushed tactical gray case?
Voilà. Now also added to the GB checkout options.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/brushed-gray-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491595602)
Note that this is only an approximation. It'll be the same color as the actual photos of the bead blasted Tactical gray, except that I find that the brushed finish version of a color tends to look a little darker and glossier than its matte finish counterpart. But this gives the general flavor, I think.
Post by: zslane on Fri, 07 April 2017, 15:22:07
For the retro green, is that more of a teal color? Looking to match something as close to DSA Lightcycle as possible.
Hmm. I think enigma black or tactical gray would look best with the LightCycle set, but maybe that's just me. Which Tron film informs the colorscheme you picture in your mind? The original or Legacy?
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 07 April 2017, 15:25:24
For the retro green, is that more of a teal color? Looking to match something as close to DSA Lightcycle as possible.
The powder manufacturer calls it "Sea Foam," but it reminds me of the colors you used to see on old 1960s appliances, which is why I gave it the name I did. :) It's sort of a powder blue but with a green shift to it. I tried to find a good Pantone match, but all the ones I can find are either to green, too blue, or too light.
Pantone 325C is close.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/retro.png)
Post by: DreLLin on Fri, 07 April 2017, 15:35:08
Post by: zslane on Fri, 07 April 2017, 15:35:21
Am I gonna hafta order three cases now? :eek:
Post by: child on Fri, 07 April 2017, 15:41:10
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 07 April 2017, 15:47:28
How much does it weigh?
Just under 1.4kg (~3 lbs). Pretty hefty. :)
Post by: zslane on Fri, 07 April 2017, 15:48:04
How much does it weigh?
Just under 1.4kg (~3 lbs). Pretty hefty. :)
Yesssssssssssssssssssss... :thumb:
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Fri, 07 April 2017, 15:56:04
Post by: KINGPIN on Fri, 07 April 2017, 16:00:33
Post by: adamcobabe on Fri, 07 April 2017, 16:16:46
Post by: zslane on Fri, 07 April 2017, 16:57:25
...I find that the brushed finish version of a color tends to look a little darker and glossier than its matte finish counterpart.
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 07 April 2017, 16:59:17
The galactic blue and the galactic blue brushed look very different. Does the brushing lighten the blue color that much? I think I'm leaning to the darker blue color, but just want to make sure it's not as light as the brushed version.
These colors are very hard to convey photographically, which is why I've tried to show them with different light lighting environments and light fall-offs. The brushing does make the surface a bit more reflective. When not in direct light, this makes it look darker than the matte form. When in direct light, it makes it look lighter than the matte form. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Here is another pic of it without as much of a reflection.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/blue-brush-1.jpg)
Post by: Arallu on Fri, 07 April 2017, 17:02:38
Post by: orpheo on Fri, 07 April 2017, 17:14:59
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 07 April 2017, 17:21:06
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 07 April 2017, 17:29:48
I haven't really followed the IC this time round so I apologise if this question has been answered/has an obvious answer but how come the white/aqua blue cases are marked at $330 rather than the $200~ of the others?
The back story is: I wasn't super happy with the powder coat finishes we got back in round 1. Most were perfect, others had some cosmetic issues. So I decided to offer powder this time only as a sort of high-end upgrade and use a different vendor. I found a shop local to me here in the San Francisco area who does amazing work (you see their samples in the product photos in the GB), but they're crazy expensive and it's a bit of pain for me to schlep the cases over there and the re-ship them separately from the core group buy after they're done. So that's why it costs so much. I regret the high cost, but I feel better charging more for something than shipping something I can't be proud of--or that would disappoint participants. I feel like the prices for the core cases are also pretty good, so we have options for everybody. :)
Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 07 April 2017, 17:38:43
The back story is: I wasn't super happy with the powder coat finishes we got back in round 1. Most were perfect, others had some cosmetic issues. So I decided to offer powder this time only as a sort of high-end upgrade and use a different vendor. I found a shop local to me here in the San Francisco area who does amazing work (you see their samples in the product photos in the GB), but they're crazy expensive and it's a bit of pain for me to schlep the cases over there and the re-ship them separately from the core group buy after they're done. So that's why it costs so much. I regret the high cost, but I feel better charging more for something than shipping something I can't be proud of--or that would disappoint participants. I feel like the prices for the core cases are also pretty good, so we have options for everybody. :)
Understandable! I appreciate the explanation, I definitely agree with the reasoning. I really wanted the white one (or the aqua, it's gorgeous) but with int. shipping it might be a little too steep - probably end up with a Tactical Grey instead!
Post by: nightdriver on Fri, 07 April 2017, 19:08:47
actually it'd be great to see tactical gray side by side with tactical black, too.
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 07 April 2017, 19:26:28
geez, i think i may need to get a few of these. my wallet is gonna hate me. hard to choose between brushed and matte though. any chance we can get a comparison shot side by side?
actually it'd be great to see tactical gray side by side with tactical black, too.
Sadly, I no longer have any brushed finishes on hand or any black cases. =\
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 07 April 2017, 21:57:41
Post by: SICAR187 on Fri, 07 April 2017, 22:30:02
Post by: SICAR187 on Fri, 07 April 2017, 22:37:50
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Fri, 07 April 2017, 22:46:00
I know you've mentioned this in passing, but will the price of the case be included for shipping? If it's not then taxes will not be a huge issue, since I'm looking to order more than 1 I might end up paying rather substantially in taxes.
I had two sent to me in Sweden for R1, I did not have to pay any extra taxes.
Post by: beamingrobot on Fri, 07 April 2017, 22:59:08
I know you've mentioned this in passing, but will the price of the case be included for shipping? If it's not then taxes will not be a huge issue, since I'm looking to order more than 1 I might end up paying rather substantially in taxes.
I had two sent to me in Sweden for R1, I did not have to pay any extra taxes.
Thanks, I'm already eyeing a particular case :D
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Fri, 07 April 2017, 23:10:13
(http://i.imgur.com/wSUMmzy.png)
I think I have to go brushed tactical grey because 2017 has already decimated my wallet for the year, but man am I going to be super jelly of anyone that orders this color :))
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 08 April 2017, 00:28:05
I know you've mentioned this in passing, but will the price of the case be included for shipping? If it's not then taxes will not be a huge issue, since I'm looking to order more than 1 I might end up paying rather substantially in taxes.
I've looked into this pretty extensively. Many people don't realize that customs in many countries can and will, randomly, ask you for an original receipt to prove the value for which you paid for goods if there is any question as to the value. This actually happened to multiple buyers in round 1. If customs find that the value has been mis-represented, the goods can be impounded and destroyed, or a severe penalty can be charged to the importer who is (in the laws of many countries, such as the UK) actually held responsible for the contents of the customs forms. Sure, 99 items may get through unquestioned, but for the 1 out of a 100 that gets flagged, it's very bad news. So that's why, with my sincerest apologies, I have to declare the cases at the legal price paid.
I strongly believe that tariffs are awful and a horrible drag on global economic development, so I totally understand and sympathize with the request, but asking me to falsify official customs documents is like asking me to help you cheat on your income taxes: the risk to both of us just isn't worth it. :( I really do feel very bad about it though.
Incidentally, however, tariffs are calculated not in general terms but on the specific category of the item being imported. This item fits into HTS category 8473.30.5100, which in the USA is import duty-free. That may be true in your country as well.
Post by: ihalatch on Sat, 08 April 2017, 01:02:20
Post by: cmc on Sat, 08 April 2017, 01:12:17
Post by: SICAR187 on Sat, 08 April 2017, 01:14:16
The Retro Green is so beautifulThat's by far my favorite too. With that name you would never guess. Still Kewl name thoShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/wSUMmzy.png)
I think I have to go brushed tactical grey because 2017 has already decimated my wallet for the year, but man am I going to be super jelly of anyone that orders this color :))
Post by: beamingrobot on Sat, 08 April 2017, 03:06:37
I know you've mentioned this in passing, but will the price of the case be included for shipping? If it's not then taxes will not be a huge issue, since I'm looking to order more than 1 I might end up paying rather substantially in taxes.
I've looked into this pretty extensively. Many people don't realize that customs in many countries can and will, randomly, ask you for an original receipt to prove the value for which you paid for goods if there is any question as to the value. This actually happened to multiple buyers in round 1. If customs find that the value has been mis-represented, the goods can be impounded and destroyed, or a severe penalty can be charged to the importer who is (in the laws of many countries, such as the UK) actually held responsible for the contents of the customs forms. Sure, 99 items may get through unquestioned, but for the 1 out of a 100 that gets flagged, it's very bad news. So that's why, with my sincerest apologies, I have to declare the cases at the legal price paid.
I strongly believe that tariffs are awful and a horrible drag on global economic development, so I totally understand and sympathize with the request, but asking me to falsify official customs documents is like asking me to help you cheat on your income taxes: the risk to both of us just isn't worth it. :( I really do feel very bad about it though.
Incidentally, however, tariffs are calculated not in general terms but on the specific category of the item being imported. This item fits into HTS category 8473.30.5100, which in the USA is import duty-free. That may be true in your country as well.
Thanks, appreciate your reply. I'll probably just go ahead anyway and order a few ;)
Post by: orpheo on Sat, 08 April 2017, 03:08:01
I know you've mentioned this in passing, but will the price of the case be included for shipping? If it's not then taxes will not be a huge issue, since I'm looking to order more than 1 I might end up paying rather substantially in taxes.
I've looked into this pretty extensively. Many people don't realize that customs in many countries can and will, randomly, ask you for an original receipt to prove the value for which you paid for goods if there is any question as to the value. This actually happened to multiple buyers in round 1. If customs find that the value has been mis-represented, the goods can be impounded and destroyed, or a severe penalty can be charged to the importer who is (in the laws of many countries, such as the UK) actually held responsible for the contents of the customs forms. Sure, 99 items may get through unquestioned, but for the 1 out of a 100 that gets flagged, it's very bad news. So that's why, with my sincerest apologies, I have to declare the cases at the legal price paid.
I strongly believe that tariffs are awful and a horrible drag on global economic development, so I totally understand and sympathize with the request, but asking me to falsify official customs documents is like asking me to help you cheat on your income taxes: the risk to both of us just isn't worth it. :( I really do feel very bad about it though.
Incidentally, however, tariffs are calculated not in general terms but on the specific category of the item being imported. This item fits into HTS category 8473.30.5100, which in the USA is import duty-free. That may be true in your country as well.
I truly respect your choice. But for me it's a deal breaker sadly I would have love the seafoam or the galactic blue.
Cheers
Post by: Geroximo on Sat, 08 April 2017, 06:19:21
Post by: poolside on Sat, 08 April 2017, 06:30:47
From the retro-green picture in the OP, it looks like powder-coated cases will have their interior surfaces covered. :thumb:
Will that apply to the mating surfaces too?
I'm actually still vacillating on that. This new shop I'm working with does amazing work, and they masked the samples they made for me, but only along the mating surfaces and (as you noticed), not the interior of the case. These didn't suffer any of the problems we saw on some of the edges last time because they did a more meticulous job of it, but honestly I think they can go ahead and powder coat even the mating surfaces since I adjusted the tolerances a bit to compensate. I'll do some tests while the cases are being manufactured (with a leftover case I have from r1) to figure out what the best way to get these coated is, and we can just go with whatever yields the best results. :)
Great! Retro is really enticing. I might likely have to limit myself to one "budget" ;D non powder-coat case, however.
Will you be using DHL again for the powder-coat cases? And what about those shipping straight from the China factory?
Post by: numerus on Sat, 08 April 2017, 09:22:27
Post by: YH YOON on Sat, 08 April 2017, 09:36:31
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 08 April 2017, 10:03:00
I know you've mentioned this in passing, but will the price of the case be included for shipping? If it's not then taxes will not be a huge issue, since I'm looking to order more than 1 I might end up paying rather substantially in taxes.
I've looked into this pretty extensively. Many people don't realize that customs in many countries can and will, randomly, ask you for an original receipt to prove the value for which you paid for goods if there is any question as to the value. This actually happened to multiple buyers in round 1. If customs find that the value has been mis-represented, the goods can be impounded and destroyed, or a severe penalty can be charged to the importer who is (in the laws of many countries, such as the UK) actually held responsible for the contents of the customs forms. Sure, 99 items may get through unquestioned, but for the 1 out of a 100 that gets flagged, it's very bad news. So that's why, with my sincerest apologies, I have to declare the cases at the legal price paid.
I strongly believe that tariffs are awful and a horrible drag on global economic development, so I totally understand and sympathize with the request, but asking me to falsify official customs documents is like asking me to help you cheat on your income taxes: the risk to both of us just isn't worth it. :( I really do feel very bad about it though.
Incidentally, however, tariffs are calculated not in general terms but on the specific category of the item being imported. This item fits into HTS category 8473.30.5100, which in the USA is import duty-free. That may be true in your country as well.
I truly respect your choice. But for me it's a deal breaker sadly I would have love the seafoam or the galactic blue.
Cheers
I totally understand. Are you sure that your country imposes customs duties on keyboard parts, though? Like I said, category 8473.30.5100 is import duty-free in the US at least. It might be worth checking.
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 08 April 2017, 10:11:51
From the retro-green picture in the OP, it looks like powder-coated cases will have their interior surfaces covered. :thumb:
Will that apply to the mating surfaces too?
I'm actually still vacillating on that. This new shop I'm working with does amazing work, and they masked the samples they made for me, but only along the mating surfaces and (as you noticed), not the interior of the case. These didn't suffer any of the problems we saw on some of the edges last time because they did a more meticulous job of it, but honestly I think they can go ahead and powder coat even the mating surfaces since I adjusted the tolerances a bit to compensate. I'll do some tests while the cases are being manufactured (with a leftover case I have from r1) to figure out what the best way to get these coated is, and we can just go with whatever yields the best results. :)
Great! Retro is really enticing. I might likely have to limit myself to one "budget" ;D non powder-coat case, however.
Will you be using DHL again for the powder-coat cases? And what about those shipping straight from the China factory?
Yes, alas, the powder coat process makes everything complicated, which again is the reason for the high cost on those. Here is how it will all break down, as I currently understand it:
1) Cases are finished at factory in Shenzhen
2) Cases go to fulfillment center in same city
3) Cases are boxed into orders, setting aside unfinished cases for powder
4) International boxes are given DHL labels (or other international express carrier), and US boxes are given FedEx/UPS ground labels. Unfinished cases are boxed together.
5) International boxes are shipped directly to customers. US boxes (including unfinished) come, in one crate, here to California. The US boxes that are ready to go out are added into the FedEx/UPS streams immediately. For the unfinished cases, I go pick them up and drive them to the powder coating place.
6) After the powder cases are finished, they're individually sent to buyers all over the world from California after the approximately 1-month lead time of the powder coating facility.
Frankly, I added the powder options because I knew a few people would be excited to have them and I was glad to finally find a shop that could do it really well, but even with the raised price, I kind of am hoping that not too many people choose it, because it sort of breaks this nice streamlined system I worked out for r2 that avoids my having to have my living room covered in packing peanuts for a week. :rolleyes:
Post by: navy2x on Sat, 08 April 2017, 10:26:37
Also, I saw a GB on originative for your cases but there are different colors (specifically coral red) and they are different prices ($209). What's the difference between the originative GB and the GB on your website? I apologize if I've missed something obvious.
https://originative.co/products/novatouch-alucase?variant=25368557968
Post by: zslane on Sat, 08 April 2017, 10:56:03
Post by: zslane on Sat, 08 April 2017, 11:05:17
Three sexy ways to dress up my NovaTouch. Methinks I could really use a second NovaTouch...
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 08 April 2017, 11:32:57
Can you explain a bit more about the powder coated option. What exactly does that mean and why is it nicer than bead blasted?
Also, I saw a GB on originative for your cases but there are different colors (specifically coral red) and they are different prices ($209). What's the difference between the originative GB and the GB on your website? I apologize if I've missed something obvious.
https://originative.co/products/novatouch-alucase?variant=25368557968
Well, more expensive doesn't necessarily mean nicer. It is just more labor intensive to apply and requires more individual skill to do well.
It's just a question of your aesthetic preference. Powder coating is a layer on top of the metal, so it is capable of creating an opaque finish. White, for example, is totally impossible with regular anodizing, so powder coat is the only option there. The retro green color would also be impossible to accomplish in anodizing dyes and give the same pastel effect (the underlying aluminum always shows through and changes the color, making it look metallic, which is also cool). Powder coat has less of a uniform finish (it can be a little wavy if you look at it really close in the right kind of light). Because anodizing uses a dye bath, the finish is very uniform. But again, you're limited in the types of looks you can achieve. Higher-build textures, like with the enigma black, are also impossible to achieve with anodizing.
Regarding the Originative options: they are joining the group buy with everyone else here, but since they are purchasing in relatively high volume, I've been able to work out with them some special terms, such as custom colors. They have their own community, which reaches beyond GeekHack, so for many people the Originative group buy may be their only exposure to these cases. I also just like working with sherryton, so I think we look for excuses to do projects together. ;) I'm very excited for their "Coral" color, which is an excellent complement to the "Retro Refrigerator" color in my group buy. Together, those two colors really make me think of the aesthetic of California, which is cool since we're both located here in the state.
Oh also, Originative keeps cases in stock after the group buy has ended. Since I don't really want to get into running an always-on e-commerce site, they perform the useful function of continuing to make these cases available for people who missed out on the group buy but still want a case, which is always pretty common.
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 08 April 2017, 11:37:37
Okay, I just pulled the trigger on Galactic Blue (brushed), Tactical Gray (brushed), and Space Station White.
Three sexy ways to dress up my NovaTouch. Methinks I could really use a second NovaTouch...
Wow. You're not messing around.
And I share your sadness about the availability of the NovaTouch. =\
Post by: AuDiTH on Sat, 08 April 2017, 12:38:08
Post by: zslane on Sat, 08 April 2017, 12:38:53
Okay, I just pulled the trigger on Galactic Blue (brushed), Tactical Gray (brushed), and Space Station White.
Three sexy ways to dress up my NovaTouch. Methinks I could really use a second NovaTouch...
Wow. You're not messing around.
Well, I have more money than sense, that's all... :p
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 08 April 2017, 13:20:49
Hi Norbauer, just a quick question, will the early access case start shipping next week? Awesome work on the video by the way :thumb:
Thanks!
And, yes, absolutely. I would have shipped them on Friday, but I discovered that I need to go out and buy some more void-fill packing materials. :)
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 08 April 2017, 13:22:27
Okay, I just pulled the trigger on Galactic Blue (brushed), Tactical Gray (brushed), and Space Station White.
Three sexy ways to dress up my NovaTouch. Methinks I could really use a second NovaTouch...
Wow. You're not messing around.
Well, I have more money than sense, that's all... :p
Haha. I know the feeling. It's not that I have a lot of money, just very little sense. :rolleyes:
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 08 April 2017, 14:02:24
Might it be possible to get more photos of the Galactic Blue and the Galactic Blue brushed?
Sure. I tried not to overload the product listing with too many photos. But here are pics of the two cases in varying lighting circumstances.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/blue%20pics/gh-blue-1-2.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/blue%20pics/gh-blue-1-3.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/blue%20pics/gh-blue-1-4.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/blue%20pics/gh-blue-1-5.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/blue%20pics/gh-blue-1-6.jpg)
Brushed
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/blue%20pics/gh-blue-1.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/blue%20pics/gh-blue-2.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/blue%20pics/gh-blue-3.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/blue%20pics/gh-blue-4.jpg)
Post by: Dee1 on Sat, 08 April 2017, 14:50:39
Now for the hard part... picking a color! Is the only plain black option the one on the originative site? & is the color in this picture (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/bumper-1_1024x1024.jpg) the white finish?
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 08 April 2017, 15:20:04
Real life hit me like a truck so I wasn't able to join the last one, but this time I'll get one for sure! :D
Now for the hard part... picking a color! Is the only plain black option the one on the originative site? & is the color in this picture (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/bumper-1_1024x1024.jpg) the white finish?
Plain black is only available through O Co, yes. There is also a textured finish available in black called "Enigma black." It's very nice, but it's unfortunately quite expensive due to the finishing process.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/enigma-black-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491597409)
The one in the picture to which you linked is actually the Aerospace Aluminum color.
This is the white case:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/white_1024x1024.jpg?v=1478320007)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/untitled-3928_1024x1024.jpg?v=1478320007)
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 08 April 2017, 18:53:29
https://shop.norbauer.com/products/spare-riser-feet
I don't have the full range of colors available, but hopefully one will work if you're in need of feet.
Post by: MechanicalCafe on Sat, 08 April 2017, 22:50:14
Post by: hpfalcon on Sat, 08 April 2017, 23:07:13
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 09 April 2017, 00:41:21
Post by: richard912 on Sun, 09 April 2017, 07:56:53
EDIT : Is the picture in the first post that of the "aerospace aluminium"? *feeling cheap*
Post by: norbauer on Sun, 09 April 2017, 10:28:58
https://www.shipito.com/en/services/usa-address-mail-forwarding
This parcel forwarding service here in California takes advantage of the fact that I'm using a bulk courier shipment of the USA keyboards to California save on shipping costs, making shipping to US addresses much less expensive. Shipito allows you to complete your own customs form, and how you fill that one out is none of my business, so you can declare it however you want. It looks like you can also submit a special request to have the product repackaged and (presumably) the invoice thrown away before it's sent to you.
I still advise against customs under-declaration, for the reasons I mentioned, but for those who prefer living dangerously, I just thought I'd mention what some customers are doing.
Post by: navy2x on Sun, 09 April 2017, 11:13:02
Post by: Geroximo on Sun, 09 April 2017, 12:09:51
Just ordered Galactic Blue :thumb:
Post by: norbauer on Sun, 09 April 2017, 12:53:35
Out of complete curiosity, Ryan, what are your three favorite case colors and finishes among the listing?
I think these would have to be my favorites: Aerospace Aluminum (clean and simple and matches my Macs well), Retro Refrigerator (such an unusual color for a case, and I'm a sucker for pastel/desaturated colors), Enigma Black (the subtle 1940s-style texture is very cool and also quite unusual in the hobby).
Post by: norbauer on Sun, 09 April 2017, 12:59:47
Those look great! Do you also have any more pics of the Retro Refrigerator?
Sure. Here are a few. For some reason I didn't get any pics of it with an actual keyboard inside, but I think these convey the flavor—again, in these photos you can see it in a wide variety of lighting circumstances from bright light to shadow, which all have a huge effect on how the color looks.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/retro-1-2.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/retro-1.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/retro-1-3.jpg)
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 09 April 2017, 13:03:15
Interesting choices!! Is hand-brushed any more refined over the regular non-brushed anodizing? What's your take on that? I'm just curious and don't know much about the aluminum finish.Out of complete curiosity, Ryan, what are your three favorite case colors and finishes among the listing?
I think these would have to be my favorites: Aerospace Aluminum (clean and simple and matches my Macs well), Retro Refrigerator (such an unusual color for a case, and I'm a sucker for pastel/desaturated colors), Enigma Black (the subtle 1940s-style texture is very cool and also quite unusual in the hobby).
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Post by: norbauer on Sun, 09 April 2017, 13:17:50
Interesting choices!! Is hand-brushed any more refined over the regular non-brushed anodizing? What's your take on that? I'm just curious and don't know much about the aluminum finish.
Aesthetically, I tend to favor visual simplicity and soft/matte looks, so I would never have even thought about doing a brushed finish. But someone in the last group buy asked me to see if I could get a custom brushed finish for him. I did, and it turned out (to my surprise) to look really cool! I actually think it does, as you implied, look more refined and less utilitarian. It's still not entirely to my taste (I'm all about the beauty of the utilitarian), but a lot of people are really into brushed finishes, and I can now appreciate why.
Also, again, one of my goals on this project is simply to make some creative finish options available that you don't often seen in the keyboard world, so I figured why not offer it and see if it strikes anyone's fancy. :D
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 09 April 2017, 13:22:09
Lovely way to put it. Thanks for your input. I will see if I can get one brushed and one unbrushed case, for science. :) Thanks for offering us the options to do so! I'm very pleased with where this is going.Interesting choices!! Is hand-brushed any more refined over the regular non-brushed anodizing? What's your take on that? I'm just curious and don't know much about the aluminum finish.
Aesthetically, I tend to favor visual simplicity and soft/matte looks, so I would never have even thought about doing a brushed finish. But someone in the last group buy asked me to see if I could get a custom brushed finish for him. I did, and it turned out (to my surprise) to look really cool! I actually think it does, as you implied, look more refined and less utilitarian. It's still not entirely to my taste (I'm all about the beauty of the utilitarian), but a lot of people are really into brushed finishes, and I can now appreciate why.
Also, again, one of my goals on this project is simply to make some creative finish options available that you don't often seen in the keyboard world, so I figured why not offer it and see if it strikes anyone's fancy. :D
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Post by: norbauer on Sun, 09 April 2017, 13:26:37
Lovely way to put it. Thanks for your input. I will see if I can get one brushed and one unbrushed case, for science. :)
for science! :thumb:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/GIFs/SaganBubbles.gif)
Post by: usopia on Sun, 09 April 2017, 13:34:34
Post by: norbauer on Sun, 09 April 2017, 17:10:49
Is the picture in the first post that of the "aerospace aluminium"? *feeling cheap*
Affirmative. :)
Aerospace aluminum is a great finish. Don't mistake low price for low awesomeness. The color options and costs are really just a question of taste and desire—and, from my perspective, the fuss/cost involved in getting each particular finish made and out the door. ;)
Post by: navy2x on Sun, 09 April 2017, 18:01:22
Post by: norbauer on Sun, 09 April 2017, 18:03:21
Is the black color offered by originative the same as enigma black offered on your website?
The O Co. version is black anodized. The "enigma black" is powder-coated and has an unusual texture that is different from the anodized cases.
Post by: navy2x on Sun, 09 April 2017, 19:35:50
Is the black color offered by originative the same as enigma black offered on your website?
The O Co. version is black anodized. The "enigma black" is powder-coated and has an unusual texture that is different from the anodized cases.
That's what I was wondering! Do you happen to have more photos of the enigma black vs anodized black? I just can't decide between the two!
Post by: richard912 on Mon, 10 April 2017, 00:08:30
Thanks for the confirmation. I like it because it looks simple and clean. Btw, was told that I may have an issue using the case with my custom Pexon cable :(Is the picture in the first post that of the "aerospace aluminium"? *feeling cheap*
Affirmative. :)
Aerospace aluminum is a great finish. Don't mistake low price for low awesomeness. The color options and costs are really just a question of taste and desire—and, from my perspective, the fuss/cost involved in getting each particular finish made and out the door. ;)
Post by: zslane on Mon, 10 April 2017, 00:47:20
Post by: MMKB on Mon, 10 April 2017, 01:41:43
Wish you another successful GB. I'll join in the future for a 40% or 60% case like this for sure!
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 10 April 2017, 10:33:30
Well said in the video. Without internet and global trade this GB would not have happened. ^-^ Globalization comes at a price -- well what else came without any -- and there are pushback but we just need to learn to deal with it.
Thanks!
Globalization is indeed commonly believed to come at a price (i.e., US manufacturing jobs), but is often said to be worth the ill effects. But if you actually look at the data and research, I would argue that the supposed ill effects are not even at all clear. And that's the thing that really irks me about the pushback you hear in some quarters. I think it's mostly about blind nationalism and fear of the foreign, not economics.
From what I can tell, certainly in aggregate, trade is always a win-win proposition for nations and for human productivity as a whole. While a tiny and already declining sector of the economy has diminished since the US signed its free trade agreements, far more jobs (higher-paying jobs that most Americans would rather have) have been gained by the overall expansion of the American (and global) economy. And, any American who is willing to be mobile to get work (as the Chinese certainly are), or to find ways of doing work online, can take advantage of that. Also, manufacturing still exists in the US; it's just very specialized and high-end—and organized around the kind of sectors that America focuses on nowadays—it's not hard to find prototyping shops here, for example.
I do kind of lament that it's hard to find local vendors who do various manufacturing trades because I'm the kind of guy who likes to go down to the workshop and see how stuff is made. But I wouldn't trade going back the American economy of the 1960s to have that luxury. Not even close. As I said in the video, in a pre-internet, pre-globalization world growing up in West Virginia, I would likely have had few options beyond being a coal miner and dying a premature death of black lung.
In any case, the proposed solution (tariffs) is just a way for the government to transfer money from people who don't work in the manufacturing sector (i.e., the vast majority of all Americans) by making them pay higher prices for all their goods in order to subsidize, Soviet-style, a small industry that the market has decided doesn't make practical sense in the US right now. It's hard for me to see how that's a good idea.
But, anyway, that's why I (thankfully!) no longer work in politics. :rolleyes:
(As an aside: there is a valid case to be made that globalization fragilizes the world economy by making it more interconnected—and thus more likely to suffer booms and busts all the same time. I've been reading a lot of Nassim Nicholas Taleb lately, and I find this argument a compelling one, but not even he suggests we should turn back the clock and de-globalize, either culturally or economically. But this is a much more nuanced argument that calls for remedies other than tariffs, and one that I've never heard the America First crowd making.)
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 10 April 2017, 10:36:07
Simple and clean? I don't understand what that means in the context of an aluminum keyboard case. In what way do any of the other colors look complicated or dirty? :confused:
Haha. OK, I take your point. By simple and clean I just meant without adding a dye beyond the natural color of the metal itself. ;)
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 10 April 2017, 10:43:49
That's what I was wondering! Do you happen to have more photos of the enigma black vs anodized black? I just can't decide between the two!
Unfortunately I've never had cases with those two finishes in the same room at the same time. But since the color is black, it's easier to judge the difference between them than if they were different hues, without their being in the same photo next to each other. The enigma has a gentle but noticeable texture, the anodized black has a relatively smooth texture like the Galactic Blue cases (or probably most any anodized case you've ever seen in person). I called it Enigma black because the finish is a bit reminiscent of the textured paint that used to be on the German Enigma machines in WWII.
(https://www.gchq.gov.uk/sites/default/files/enigma_keys_30258-06a.jpg)
Thanks for the confirmation. I like it because it looks simple and clean. Btw, was told that I may have an issue using the case with my custom Pexon cable :(
I have heard that as well, but I don't have a Pexon cable myself with which to test.
You can do this with the case, however. ;)
Post by: floris on Mon, 10 April 2017, 11:26:40
Will the cases that are shipped directly from china still contain these parts?
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Post by: norbauer on Mon, 10 April 2017, 11:52:58
Will the cases that are shipped directly from china still contain these parts?
Yes, the cases will all include: bumpers for use with riser feet and without (small and large), screws for holding the two halves of the case together, two flange screws for holding the plate in place against the bottom half of the case, and two tiny screws for fastening the USB bracket against the bottom of the plate well.
Post by: zslane on Mon, 10 April 2017, 12:10:47
...not even he suggests we should turn back the clock and de-globalize, either culturally or economically.
Uh yeah, I don't think there's any way to put that genie back in the bottle at this point.
The only way to survive in the presence of a competitor who can easily and dramatically undercut your costs is to focus on the segment of the market that can be convinced to pay the premium for your domestically-made product. What added value does that premium buy? You have to have a really strong unique value proposition to stay in business these days.
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 10 April 2017, 12:24:50
...not even he suggests we should turn back the clock and de-globalize, either culturally or economically.
Uh yeah, I don't think there's any way to put that genie back in the bottle at this point.
The only way to survive in the presence of a competitor who can easily and dramatically undercut your costs is to focus on the segment of the market that can be convinced to pay the premium for your domestically-made product. What added value does that premium buy? You have to have a really strong unique value proposition to stay in business these days.
Yeah, totally. And I'm all for that kind of thing. I have produced stuff with some great artisanal shops here in the US in the past, because the very old-fashioned inefficient, hand-made, way they make things is part of the charm and appeal of the product itself. Here is a video I made on one of those (with apologies that parts of it may not make sense to non-Trekkies):
As far as I'm concerned, businesses to should try to avoid competing directly and instead focus on differentiation. When there is a wide range of really affordable versions of a product to very high-end stuff, it means you have a healthy market: everybody gets something more tailored to what he or she wants and can afford, and there is a place for lots of varying types of jobs all over the planet. Globalization actually makes this kind of manufacturing in the US more possible, not less.
Post by: zslane on Mon, 10 April 2017, 17:56:46
I imagine that if the "Norbauer Case" was something that was in constant high demand, there would inevitably be a Chinese knock-off being sold at 75% of the quality level and half the price. And unless you are like Apple, willing to engage the same kind of labor exploitation your competition does, it would be a real struggle to find a sustainable customer base for that product.
The mantra in the US has always been "Innovate or Die", but I think globalization has made that more necessary than ever.
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 10 April 2017, 19:26:30
I can't help but think about Signature Plastics who is facing new competition from MaxKeys. The Chinese version of SA keycaps are virtually identical to SP's but can be sold at a substantially lower price due to their significantly lower labor costs. I think it will be extraordinarily difficult for SP to sell "Made in the USA" as its only value proposition. Already you have community members hungrily eyeing MaxKeys sets for their lower price.
I imagine that if the "Norbauer Case" was something that was in constant high demand, there would inevitably be a Chinese knock-off being sold at 75% of the quality level and half the price. And unless you are like Apple, willing to engage the same kind of labor exploitation your competition does, it would be a real struggle to find a sustainable customer base for that product.
The mantra in the US has always been "Innovate or Die", but I think globalization has made that more necessary than ever.
Well, I should first say that I love Signature Plastics because of the excellent job they've always done with my Galaxy Class design. And Melissa there in particular is great to deal with.
However, I think that a bit competitive pressure would be good for SP—if for no other reason than to drive them to differentiate into stuff that only they can do well because they're a US company. They could, if they had wanted to, come to have been known for amazing customer service and communication, community cultivation, and/or a luxury brand feeling with amazing packaging and cool little details aimed at delighting the customer. They haven't really fully done any of that. I can only assume that they believed for a long time that they had something that was so niche that competition wouldn't ever be very relevant. As such, they didn't really make the kind of investments in brand- and community-building that would be necessary to really help them resist being commoditized. PMK was a nice effort in that direction, but it has always felt kind of half-hearted and under-funded (and I think MassDrop partially, though unintentionally, obviated it a bit). Then again, I hear they're also swamped with more demand than they can meet, so maybe they're doing just fine. I hope so.
If somebody made a Chinese knockoff of my case design at 75% of the quality and half the price, I wouldn't be surprised nor would I complain too fervently. As a buyer, I love having those kinds of choices, and I often choose the more expensive product that gives me better feels and a nicer overall experience whenever I can afford to do so. I mean, after all, this hobby is all about extremely arcane aesthetic experiences in the first place. There is nothing in $200 keyboards that has to do with meeting necessity; it's all about having fun and a good feeling about an otherwise very sublunary object. So while getting a "cheap knockoff" may appeal to some people (which I entirely endorse), I think that sort of solution misses a core element what appeals about this hobby: having an extremely luxurious keyboard with a cool back-story and a sense of personal connection.
I'm not saying I could necessarily always give people a better buying and quality experience than a Chinese "knockoff" purveyor could, but I do try my best, and that's all I feel that I need to worry about. In any event, I'd certainly rather sell a tiny handful of a product to a small crowd of people who are delighted with the product and experience than be the knockoff company and sell a ton of something at a cut-throat price. I want no part in that game and I'm happy to cede it to anybody else. This is also why, incidentally, round 2 will almost surely be my last for this particular design. ;)
Of course, this is also all well and easy for me to say this since I have the luxury that this keyboard stuff is just a fun sideline/hobby for me (where my profit objectives are first and foremost not to lose money). So maybe that's easier for me to say than somebody else, but I think there is a kernel of truth in the strategy even for a purely profit-motivated business.
Post by: zslane on Mon, 10 April 2017, 19:59:06
In any event, I'd certainly rather sell a tiny handful of a product to a small crowd of people who are delighted with the product and experience than be the knockoff company and sell a ton of something at a cut-throat price.
Yeah, I probably chose poorly when using you and your keyboard cases as an example. The sort of marketplace pressures that have the potential to put small US companies out of business in a matter of a few short years don't really apply to individual artisans selling their wares to like-minded individuals who circulate within the same special interest community. But if your business relied on selling (on an on-going basis) to a substantial consumer base, it would be quite a struggle to compete with an industrial force that had access to nearly limitless labor at a tiny fraction of (your) cost.
For small-scale artisans, however, globalization opens the doors to customers previously closed off to them, and the world surely looks considerably rosier and full of exciting potential.
Post by: zslane on Mon, 10 April 2017, 20:54:55
I have heard that as well, but I don't have a Pexon cable myself with which to test.
You can do this with the case, however. ;)
Ryan, could you elaborate on this magnetic connector a bit? Where does one get the connector kit that goes on the inside of the case? And how does one tell Pexon to make a cable compatible with this?
Post by: SICAR187 on Mon, 10 April 2017, 21:04:26
I have heard that as well, but I don't have a Pexon cable myself with which to test.
You can do this with the case, however. ;)
Ryan, could you elaborate on this magnetic connector a bit? Where does one get the connector kit that goes on the inside of the case? And how does one tell Pexon to make a cable compatible with this?
It's a standard USB Micro B to USB A cable, with a detectable magnetic head. They're sold on Amazon, Ebay, ect... It's basically an Apple MagSafe adaptation (copy/knockoff).
The cable comes complete w/ 1 attachment, the USB Micro connector is a two piece design, (the small detachable part) stays on the device you're using it on (unlike MagSafe). The attachments are sold separately under different brand names with varying designs (different widths and pin arrangements on the USB Micro connector), so you'll have to make sure they are compatible when and if you purchase more attachments or complete cable/kit.
Post by: clappingcactus on Mon, 10 April 2017, 21:40:16
Also this thread is ridiculously interesting on so many levels.
Post by: richard912 on Mon, 10 April 2017, 23:13:23
There are definitely other USB cables I could use but I have already invested in a set of Pexon New Style mods with both mini and micro USB connector connections, which makes things easier as I rotate between different boards that I have (gotta give them all some loving on a rotation basis, no?)Thanks for the confirmation. I like it because it looks simple and clean. Btw, was told that I may have an issue using the case with my custom Pexon cable :(
I have heard that as well, but I don't have a Pexon cable myself with which to test.
You can do this with the case, however. ;)
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Tue, 11 April 2017, 02:27:11
Post by: nightdriver on Tue, 11 April 2017, 20:56:54
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 11 April 2017, 21:34:25
man, i've gotta be nuts, but i'm seriously considering getting a brushed blue, a matte gray, and an enigma. in fact, if not for the $100 premium on the enigma i probably would have already pulled the trigger. hah.
Get 3 different TKLs, honestly
matte grey is common, so get this one in a weird color
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 12 April 2017, 00:47:09
man, i've gotta be nuts, but i'm seriously considering getting a brushed blue, a matte gray, and an enigma.
Not that I don't entirely endorse it, but all you high rollers who keep putting in orders for three and four cases blow my mind. I commend your financially imprudent commitment to keyboard indulgence, for it exceeds even my own—which I had not previously thought possible. ;)
(https://i.giphy.com/zQNeQBRHIpqdq.gif)
Post by: boxfrommoon on Thu, 13 April 2017, 10:26:27
Plum - Tactical Gray
(http://i.imgur.com/wfmTrCh.jpg)
PuLSE - Galactic Blue
(http://i.imgur.com/TPHGyEf.jpg)
I think this made decision process even harder :)
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 13 April 2017, 10:35:51
Thanks norbauer for creating such beautiful case! I missed the first group buy last year and I'm so happy that you decided to run it again. At the moment I can't decide between galactic blue and tactical gray. The gray one would most likely be more compatible with wider range of keycap sets while blue color would be more exotic choice of color for the keyboard case. I decided to do little photoshopping with PuLSE and Plum sets.Thanks to you I'm leaning to get both! Nice pics.
Plum - Tactical GrayShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/wfmTrCh.jpg)
PuLSE - Galactic BlueShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/TPHGyEf.jpg)
I think this made decision process even harder :)
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Post by: norbauer on Thu, 13 April 2017, 12:29:30
Thanks norbauer for creating such beautiful case! I missed the first group buy last year and I'm so happy that you decided to run it again. At the moment I can't decide between galactic blue and tactical gray. The gray one would most likely be more compatible with wider range of keycap sets while blue color would be more exotic choice of color for the keyboard case. I decided to do little photoshopping with PuLSE and Plum sets.
Plum - Tactical GrayShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/wfmTrCh.jpg)
PuLSE - Galactic BlueShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/TPHGyEf.jpg)
I think this made decision process even harder :)
Very nice Photoshop work! Thanks for sharing this. :)
Post by: zslane on Thu, 13 April 2017, 13:27:41
Post by: orpheo on Thu, 13 April 2017, 13:38:21
Thanks norbauer for creating such beautiful case! I missed the first group buy last year and I'm so happy that you decided to run it again. At the moment I can't decide between galactic blue and tactical gray. The gray one would most likely be more compatible with wider range of keycap sets while blue color would be more exotic choice of color for the keyboard case. I decided to do little photoshopping with PuLSE and Plum sets.
Plum - Tactical GrayShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/wfmTrCh.jpg)
PuLSE - Galactic BlueShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/TPHGyEf.jpg)
I think this made decision process even harder :)
OMG, I had reserves regarding the blue color in the IC thread but this galactic blue is so handsome! Congrats Ryan you have such great taste, at least same as mine!
Thanks for the photoshops!
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Thu, 13 April 2017, 13:50:11
(http://i.imgur.com/7UyJnf8.png)
halp
Post by: eksuen on Thu, 13 April 2017, 14:18:33
I can't get that Retro Refrigerator out of my head even though I think Tactical Gray would be more practical :-\
Retro Refrigerator all the way. This round, I'm getting exotic colors only. There will always be opportunities to get black, silver, or grey mechs.
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Thu, 13 April 2017, 15:47:08
I can't get that Retro Refrigerator out of my head even though I think Tactical Gray would be more practical :-\Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7UyJnf8.png)
halp
get both, get another kb for it or sell it later on. won't be hard to get it sold on mechmarket.
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Thu, 13 April 2017, 15:58:06
Yup I think you are right, and I already wimped out on getting the Exent in pink (picked black) - Retro Refrigerator it is! :pI can't get that Retro Refrigerator out of my head even though I think Tactical Gray would be more practical :-\
Retro Refrigerator all the way. This round, I'm getting exotic colors only. There will always be opportunities to get black, silver, or grey mechs.
Post by: autobot on Fri, 14 April 2017, 06:48:25
That would be so dope!
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 14 April 2017, 10:40:47
So psyched! Any chance of making a matching case for a numpad? CM might not make a numpad, but maybe some other common/popular numpad with a detachable USB cable?
That would be so dope!
If only there were a Topre numpad that supported MX stems like the Novatouch. I currently use an MX numpad. It a silver-colored aluminum Korean custom I got years ago with super ergo clears, which I like a lot, but which is a bit buggy and hard to program.
So, yeah, I'd love to make a custom case for a numpad that I loved and that is readily available on the market; but I would first have to find that numpad. =\
Post by: pexon on Fri, 14 April 2017, 11:27:53
Post by: zslane on Fri, 14 April 2017, 12:49:21
So psyched! Any chance of making a matching case for a numpad? CM might not make a numpad, but maybe some other common/popular numpad with a detachable USB cable?
That would be so dope!
If only there were a Topre numpad that supported MX stems like the Novatouch. I currently use an MX numpad. It a silver-colored aluminum Korean custom I got years ago with super ergo clears, which I like a lot, but which is a bit buggy and hard to program.
So, yeah, I'd love to make a custom case for a numpad that I loved and that is readily available on the market; but I would first have to find that numpad. =\
I put MX stems into my Topre 23UB. It's what I mate up with my NovaTouch. I'd love an aluminum case for it!
Post by: autobot on Fri, 14 April 2017, 13:30:04
So psyched! Any chance of making a matching case for a numpad? CM might not make a numpad, but maybe some other common/popular numpad with a detachable USB cable?
That would be so dope!
If only there were a Topre numpad that supported MX stems like the Novatouch. I currently use an MX numpad. It a silver-colored aluminum Korean custom I got years ago with super ergo clears, which I like a lot, but which is a bit buggy and hard to program.
So, yeah, I'd love to make a custom case for a numpad that I loved and that is readily available on the market; but I would first have to find that numpad. =\
I put MX stems into my Topre 23UB. It's what I mate up with my NovaTouch. I'd love an aluminum case for it!
I think this would be the path to go to resolve stem problem.
Would finding an MX numpad that could fit in the same case be at all possible? Switch spacing and board/plate dimensions and non-removable/removable cable would seem to be the driving factors.
Scenario A (simplest from a development standpoint)
Design the case for the bulkier of the two numpad guts, and have some provisions (like a bracket/spacer) for the slimmer one to fit.
Scenario B (not as simple as Scenario A)
Design universal bottom -or- top half, then Topre/MX designated half for either Topre or MX.
Scenario C (complex, cripples bulk pricing)
Case "A" w/cutout for a Topre Pad, Case "B" for an MX Pad
Haven't looked into Topre all that much, but is the Realforce the only Topre Numpad available? I couldn't find anything else out there.
Or just design a case for an MX numpad :)
Post by: nightdriver on Fri, 14 April 2017, 16:55:17
Post by: nightdriver on Fri, 14 April 2017, 16:56:19
Ordered a Galactic Blue for my Deep Space, was such a hard decision to go for brushed or non brushed ???
it was a hard decision but i trust that brushed is going to be beautiful! for now i'll be pairing it with symbiosis. in the future, perhaps GMK nautilus.
Post by: zslane on Fri, 14 April 2017, 17:11:58
Ordered a Galactic Blue for my Deep Space, was such a hard decision to go for brushed or non brushed ???
it was a hard decision but i trust that brushed is going to be beautiful! for now i'll be pairing it with symbiosis. in the future, perhaps GMK nautilus.
Wow! Someone who owns Symbiosis. They do exist!
Post by: nightdriver on Fri, 14 April 2017, 18:13:59
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Fri, 14 April 2017, 18:22:18
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/SBv9Ksz.jpg)
Is that Aerospace Aluminum?
Post by: nightdriver on Fri, 14 April 2017, 21:28:29
Post by: richard912 on Fri, 14 April 2017, 23:27:59
Ordered a Galactic Blue for my Deep Space, was such a hard decision to go for brushed or non brushed ???Go brushed or bust!!
Post by: zslane on Sat, 15 April 2017, 00:44:03
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Post by: norbauer on Sat, 15 April 2017, 00:49:59
i assume it's the same one as aerospace aluminum this go round.
Affirmative. :)
Post by: orpheo on Sat, 15 April 2017, 01:59:12
As for the numpad, I think there are in great demand and your design magic and restrained pricing with a leopold fc210tp could well be very popular!
Post by: clappingcactus on Sat, 15 April 2017, 09:32:56
Here's what my NovaTouch will more or less look like with the powder white case:
(Attachment Link)
How many of us are planning on variations of this theme, haha? I'm planning on Retro Refrigerator with Round 6 CADET alphas and Oblivion Git mods.
Post by: theillumedpanda on Sat, 15 April 2017, 10:12:02
Post by: norbauer on Sun, 16 April 2017, 00:17:15
As for the numpad, I think there are in great demand and your design magic and restrained pricing with a leopold fc210tp could well be very popular!
Oh, that's a good idea; I forgot about that one.
Post by: orpheo on Sun, 16 April 2017, 15:38:30
I just haven't found a suitable one in months so I DIY'ed it and did this prototype just this afternoon, looks like a "ghetto" but it's a numpad to go with my numerous 60% keyboard with the right size (17 keys)
I will cut it and make it shine, it's solid rosewood :D
It's a 18$ PCB from Ali for the nkpc switch tester (working and programmed already, even the led). The catch is that it doesn't have stabs holes and it's impossible to drill them (traces).
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2891/33949691031_bae50fa1ce_b.jpg)
Post by: zslane on Sun, 16 April 2017, 17:03:48
Post by: orpheo on Sun, 16 April 2017, 18:08:43
Post by: zslane on Sun, 16 April 2017, 18:58:16
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Post by: norbauer on Sun, 16 April 2017, 20:23:48
I just happened to be watching and was surprised to see they brought it up. :)
Post by: chalks on Sun, 16 April 2017, 20:32:07
Post by: Quakemz on Mon, 17 April 2017, 03:01:36
I just wanted to say thanks to the Top Clack guys (and Yanbo from MassDrop) for the nice words about my cases in this week's episode (https://youtu.be/p2AZ5H3XB4I?t=32m21s).
I just happened to be watching and was surprised to see they brought it up. :)
Thanks for tuning in, my friend!
Post by: orpheo on Mon, 17 April 2017, 07:16:10
The Enter key doesn't fit on quite right due to the extra stems and the stabilizer housing, but it's not the end of the world. And it's easily solved by dremeling off the extra stems (acquiring an extra Enter key might not be a bad idea, so as to have an intact one still in one's set).
(Attachment Link)
Isn't your minus sign and equal sign mixed up?
Post by: autobot on Mon, 17 April 2017, 08:45:18
Ryan, I am still debating whether to go galactic or retro!
As for the numpad, I think there are in great demand and your design magic and restrained pricing with a leopold fc210tp could well be very popular!
I'd be all over this.
Post by: zslane on Mon, 17 April 2017, 12:44:20
The Enter key doesn't fit on quite right due to the extra stems and the stabilizer housing, but it's not the end of the world. And it's easily solved by dremeling off the extra stems (acquiring an extra Enter key might not be a bad idea, so as to have an intact one still in one's set).
(Attachment Link)
Isn't your minus sign and equal sign mixed up?
Yeah, they're reversed. PuLSE doesn't come with the keycaps the other way around. There are other sets like Round 6, /dev/tty, and various DSA/XDA sets that make perfect legend accuracy easier to achieve.
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 17 April 2017, 18:33:13
https://status.shopify.com/
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 17 April 2017, 18:44:53
https://shop.norbauer.com/
Post by: richard912 on Tue, 18 April 2017, 02:50:49
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Tue, 18 April 2017, 07:34:52
Disregarding issues with Pexon cables, the deed is done. Ordered an Aerospace Aluminum unit, which will go nicely with white/beige keysets.
If you want to continue using your pexon cable all you would need to do is replace the usb micro connector and put on some new heatshrink.
Post by: richard912 on Tue, 18 April 2017, 10:43:28
Noted with thanks. Will definitely look into this.Disregarding issues with Pexon cables, the deed is done. Ordered an Aerospace Aluminum unit, which will go nicely with white/beige keysets.
If you want to continue using your pexon cable all you would need to do is replace the usb micro connector and put on some new heatshrink.
Post by: zslane on Tue, 18 April 2017, 12:23:15
Post by: elcubismo on Tue, 18 April 2017, 15:33:37
Post by: orpheo on Tue, 18 April 2017, 16:15:54
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 18 April 2017, 16:17:12
Could someone explain why a Pexon cable is any different from any other USB cable, and why it doesn't "work" with a Norbauer case?
I can only speculate, having not seen one in person, but I presume they're merely putting a heat shrink tube over the normal USB connector, which increases its size slightly beyond the USB spec. This sort of thing has a very desirable aesthetic effect in general, I would say, but it just so happens that it means the connector is now larger than the USB spec says it should be. I intentionally designed the pocket in my case to fit snugly around a connector of the largest size within the spec, so it would give a nice tight visual look. After getting feedback about the Pexon cables, I thought about opening it up a bit more to accommodate larger connectors, but I heard from multiple people that they prefer the look of the tight fit. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Tue, 18 April 2017, 16:18:45
Could someone explain why a Pexon cable is any different from any other USB cable, and why it doesn't "work" with a Norbauer case?I would assume the cutout in the case for the USB plug is not wide enough for the plastic housing on the cable. Like mentioned, should be fixable by changing the connector.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/usb-1_2048x2048.jpg?v=1491597409)
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 18 April 2017, 16:22:19
I already spent so much on keyboards! I'm trying to psych myself into pulling the trigger on this. They all look gorgeous and I definitely don't want to miss out...
Haha. Well, I absolutely don't want to talk anybody into joining the GB who isn't totally enthusiastic to participate, but if you're looking for an excuse: after the first round there was a vigorous after-GB market for these (see Mechmarket on Reddit), with most people selling them well above the GB price. Since I'm pretty sure this will be the last time I'll produce this design (I'd like to move onto other projects and am bad at multi-tasking), you could always look as it as an "investment," with the optionality of simply keeping it if you end up liking it. ;)
Post by: zslane on Tue, 18 April 2017, 16:35:29
I can only speculate, having not seen one in person, but I presume they're merely putting a heat shrink tube over the normal USB connector, which increases its size slightly beyond the USB spec. This sort of thing has a very desirable aesthetic effect in general, I would say, but it just so happens that it means the connector is now larger than the USB spec says it should be. I intentionally designed the pocket in my case to fit snugly around a connector of the largest size within the spec, so it would give a nice tight visual look. After getting feedback about the Pexon cables, I thought about opening it up a bit more to accommodate larger connectors, but I heard from multiple people that they prefer the look of the tight fit. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I see.
Well "colorizing" a connector with heat-shrink tubing is a very common option among custom cable makers, not just Pexon. In the future, I would recommend erring on the side of compatibility rather than maintaining such a tight fit with virtually zero tolerance for minor variability in connector size. I mean, I'm never going to see that tight fit, but I am going to see the color of the connector sticking out the back...
Post by: nightdriver on Tue, 18 April 2017, 18:21:22
The Enter key doesn't fit on quite right due to the extra stems and the stabilizer housing, but it's not the end of the world. And it's easily solved by dremeling off the extra stems (acquiring an extra Enter key might not be a bad idea, so as to have an intact one still in one's set).
(Attachment Link)
noooooo don't damage the precious pulse set!
Post by: zslane on Tue, 18 April 2017, 18:28:29
The Enter key doesn't fit on quite right due to the extra stems and the stabilizer housing, but it's not the end of the world. And it's easily solved by dremeling off the extra stems (acquiring an extra Enter key might not be a bad idea, so as to have an intact one still in one's set).
(Attachment Link)
noooooo don't damage the precious pulse set!
I don't intend to. I will investigate drilling holes in the plate instead. Worst case scenario is that I just use the original Topre Enter key.
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 18 April 2017, 18:31:21
The Enter key doesn't fit on quite right due to the extra stems and the stabilizer housing, but it's not the end of the world. And it's easily solved by dremeling off the extra stems (acquiring an extra Enter key might not be a bad idea, so as to have an intact one still in one's set).
(Attachment Link)
noooooo don't damage the precious pulse set!
I don't intend to. I will investigate drilling holes in the plate instead. Worst case scenario is that I just use the original Topre Enter key.
Just to clarify for those who might be casually dropping into the thread, you're talking about keys on your RealForce numpad and not the case on offer in the current group buy, right? ;)
Post by: zslane on Tue, 18 April 2017, 18:35:10
I was only trying to refute the notion that enhancing a Topre 23U numpad is pointless on the basis that you can't put nice MX-based keycaps on it. I don't want that to be the reason you disregard the idea of making an aluminum case for it.
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 18 April 2017, 19:16:07
Yes, that's correct.
I was only trying to refute the notion that enhancing a Topre 23U numpad is pointless on the basis that you can't put nice MX-based keycaps on it. I don't want that to be the reason you disregard the idea of making an aluminum case for it.
It's definitely something I've thought about. I'm told that it's not Mac-compatible, however, which is a bit of a bummer for me personally. I use Windows too, but my Mac is my primary desktop computer because I like the Unix command line when I'm doing software development. Does anybody have experience using one on a Mac?
Post by: cmc on Tue, 18 April 2017, 19:32:32
https://pexonpcs.co.uk/collections/usb-cables/products/new-style-mod-kit (https://pexonpcs.co.uk/collections/usb-cables/products/new-style-mod-kit)
Post by: richard912 on Tue, 18 April 2017, 20:07:19
Looks like they attach to the socket on the PCB, and some have a crazy cylindrical connector, so maybe they can't fit through the opening?
https://pexonpcs.co.uk/collections/usb-cables/products/new-style-mod-kit (https://pexonpcs.co.uk/collections/usb-cables/products/new-style-mod-kit)
Pexon's New Style Mod is made up of two parts, Connector 1 and Connector 2, both joined with the "crazy cylindrical connector".
Connector 1 connects to your MKB (mini or micro USB) while Connector 2 is connected to your PC. So, by having two Connector 1 in mini and micro USB respectively, makes it easier whence switching between different MKB. Simply unscrew the "crazy cylindrical connector", remove Connector 1 with mini USB, replace with other Connector 1 with micro USB, screw on and you're done.
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 19 April 2017, 00:49:26
Looks like they attach to the socket on the PCB, and some have a crazy cylindrical connector, so maybe they can't fit through the opening?
https://pexonpcs.co.uk/collections/usb-cables/products/new-style-mod-kit (https://pexonpcs.co.uk/collections/usb-cables/products/new-style-mod-kit)
Pexon's New Style Mod is made up of two parts, Connector 1 and Connector 2, both joined with the "crazy cylindrical connector".
Connector 1 connects to your MKB (mini or micro USB) while Connector 2 is connected to your PC. So, by having two Connector 1 in mini and micro USB respectively, makes it easier whence switching between different MKB. Simply unscrew the "crazy cylindrical connector", remove Connector 1 with mini USB, replace with other Connector 1 with micro USB, screw on and you're done.
I've got to get myself one of these with both connectors. It will also make it possible to upgrade the cable to usb type-c if mechs move in that direction.
Post by: boxfrommoon on Wed, 19 April 2017, 06:03:26
Hmm. Try swapping them. I think PuLSE is better on a black (or very dark) case because the alphas are all black. By going with a black case, you allow the turquoise mods to really pop, whereas they sort of just clash with the blue case since the blue tones are not the same (PuLSE mods are almost green). And the purple mods of the GMK Plum set might look good with a dark blue case, whereas the completely neutral gray tones of the tactical gray case don't really combine with any of the Plum colors. (I feel that a tan case would probably have been idea for Plum, but tan was not offered as an option.)
That is actually very good point! Here is the Galactic Plum setup:
(http://i.imgur.com/y9m8u4z.jpg)
This might be it! I really like how colors work together. What do you guys think? Should I just go with the blue case?
Post by: elcubismo on Wed, 19 April 2017, 08:46:25
I already spent so much on keyboards! I'm trying to psych myself into pulling the trigger on this. They all look gorgeous and I definitely don't want to miss out...
Haha. Well, I absolutely don't want to talk anybody into joining the GB who isn't totally enthusiastic to participate, but if you're looking for an excuse: after the first round there was a vigorous after-GB market for these (see Mechmarket on Reddit), with most people selling them well above the GB price. Since I'm pretty sure this will be the last time I'll produce this design (I'd like to move onto other projects and am bad at multi-tasking), you could always look as it as an "investment," with the optionality of simply keeping it if you end up liking it. ;)
That's what I think has convinced me to get it :P
Post by: orpheo on Wed, 19 April 2017, 13:30:03
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Wed, 19 April 2017, 14:03:22
Looks like they attach to the socket on the PCB, and some have a crazy cylindrical connector, so maybe they can't fit through the opening?
https://pexonpcs.co.uk/collections/usb-cables/products/new-style-mod-kit (https://pexonpcs.co.uk/collections/usb-cables/products/new-style-mod-kit)
Pexon's New Style Mod is made up of two parts, Connector 1 and Connector 2, both joined with the "crazy cylindrical connector".
Connector 1 connects to your MKB (mini or micro USB) while Connector 2 is connected to your PC. So, by having two Connector 1 in mini and micro USB respectively, makes it easier whence switching between different MKB. Simply unscrew the "crazy cylindrical connector", remove Connector 1 with mini USB, replace with other Connector 1 with micro USB, screw on and you're done.
Oh wow that's neato. I thought those style cables were for Filcos cause the stock cable isn't removeable or something...now I want one.
Post by: grandtheftspaceman on Thu, 20 April 2017, 04:27:06
(RIP my wallet...)
Post by: elcubismo on Thu, 20 April 2017, 08:05:14
Post by: superpiya on Thu, 20 April 2017, 11:56:35
I have heard that as well, but I don't have a Pexon cable myself with which to test.
You can do this with the case, however. ;)
Is this Aerospace Aluminum or Tactical Gray ?
Also, you got PM :D
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Thu, 20 April 2017, 14:53:57
I have heard that as well, but I don't have a Pexon cable myself with which to test.
You can do this with the case, however. ;)
Is this Aerospace Aluminum or Tactical Gray ?
Also, you got PM :D
Thats regular gray from r1
Post by: poolside on Thu, 20 April 2017, 18:53:45
So that's why, with my sincerest apologies, I have to declare the cases at the legal price paid.
Even those shipping straight from China, or were you talking specifically about the powder-coated cases that you would ship out yourself?
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 20 April 2017, 19:32:13
So that's why, with my sincerest apologies, I have to declare the cases at the legal price paid.
Even those shipping straight from China, or were you talking specifically about the powder-coated cases that you would ship out yourself?
All of the above, I'm afraid.
Post by: superpiya on Fri, 21 April 2017, 02:30:58
I have heard that as well, but I don't have a Pexon cable myself with which to test.
You can do this with the case, however. ;)
Is this Aerospace Aluminum or Tactical Gray ?
Also, you got PM :D
Thats regular gray from r1
Thanks man :thumb:
Is it lighter in color than the current R2 Tactical Gray?
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Fri, 21 April 2017, 03:28:18
I have heard that as well, but I don't have a Pexon cable myself with which to test.
You can do this with the case, however. ;)
Is this Aerospace Aluminum or Tactical Gray ?
Also, you got PM :D
Thats regular gray from r1
Thanks man :thumb:
Is it lighter in color than the current R2 Tactical Gray?
Yes. The R1 gray you see in the video is Cool Gray 11 C (http://rgb.to/pantone/cool-gray-11-c) while the R2 tactial gray is 2336 C (http://rgb.to/pantone/2336-c).
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 21 April 2017, 10:42:32
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/GIFs/OrientExpress.gif)
Thanks so everyone who has supported this project so far! I'm very excited to get the ball rolling on manufacturing this Monday. I'm working on including a couple of nice little surprise upgrades compared to last time, which should make for a nicer "unboxing" experience than packing peanuts spilling all over the floor. :cool:
Post by: Atredl on Fri, 21 April 2017, 12:11:39
I hope all of you enjoy your boards! I'll be here patiently waiting for a metal HHKB case to come out, and I might be waiting for a long time.
Post by: zslane on Fri, 21 April 2017, 12:15:55
Post by: Atredl on Fri, 21 April 2017, 12:26:05
Are you selling your NovaTouch, Atredl? I mean, since you don't use it anymore and all...
Yeah, I'd consider it. I'll send you a time stamp through pm later today. I'm headed out the door shortly.
Post by: clappingcactus on Fri, 21 April 2017, 12:42:37
The Novatouch just doesn't have layer capability :(
Hasu's USB to USB mod works!
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Fri, 21 April 2017, 14:30:36
The Novatouch just doesn't have layer capability :(
Hasu's USB to USB mod works!
Yes, this. Using a Novatouch with Hasu's TMK USB to USB converter right now and it's glorious.
Post by: autobot on Fri, 21 April 2017, 15:37:57
Thanks again for running this one last time Norbauer! :thumb:
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 21 April 2017, 16:40:27
Thanks again for running this one last time Norbauer! :thumb:
My pleasure. Thanks for the kind words and support! :D
Post by: TheCanisDirus on Fri, 21 April 2017, 16:42:47
Oh, and let me know if you ever re-release the Galaxy caps... or if you ever want to part with one of the sets i know you must have someplace sitting around ;P
Thanks for doing what you're doing!
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 21 April 2017, 16:55:40
Whelp long time lurker and had to make an account finally to say just how excited i am for this! I actually found "you" a while back when i tried to buy (but sadly missed) the Galaxy Class set. I ordered a tactical grey case.
Oh man, that's awesome! Welcome to GeekHack!! :cool:
Oh, and let me know if you ever re-release the Galaxy caps... or if you ever want to part with one of the sets i know you must have someplace sitting around ;P
Thanks for doing what you're doing!
Actually, as it happens, I expect to have something pretty cool to announce about a new Galaxy Class++ set in a week or so. Stay tuned. ;D (If you're not already on my email list (http://eepurl.com/cnnEwr), I'll share any news there.)
Post by: TheCanisDirus on Fri, 21 April 2017, 17:06:40
Whelp long time lurker and had to make an account finally to say just how excited i am for this! I actually found "you" a while back when i tried to buy (but sadly missed) the Galaxy Class set. I ordered a tactical grey case.
Oh man, that's awesome! Welcome to GeekHack!! :cool:Oh, and let me know if you ever re-release the Galaxy caps... or if you ever want to part with one of the sets i know you must have someplace sitting around ;P
Thanks for doing what you're doing!
Actually, as it happens, I expect to have something pretty cool to announce about a new Galaxy Class++ set in a week or so. Stay tuned. ;D (If you're not already on my email list (http://eepurl.com/cnnEwr), I'll share any news there.)
Oh man, cannot wait! I need a set of caps to go with this case ;) signing up stat
Post by: Atredl on Fri, 21 April 2017, 18:37:10
The Novatouch just doesn't have layer capability :(
Hasu's USB to USB mod works!
Where might I be able to get one?
Post by: nightdriver on Fri, 21 April 2017, 19:17:45
Are you selling your NovaTouch, Atredl? I mean, since you don't use it anymore and all...
Yeah, I'd consider it. I'll send you a time stamp through pm later today. I'm headed out the door shortly.
wow, score!
Post by: LoLPirate on Fri, 21 April 2017, 19:18:36
Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 21 April 2017, 19:22:05
Retro fridge here I come!
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/GIFs/Retro%20Refrigerator.gif)
Post by: nightdriver on Fri, 21 April 2017, 19:28:19
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 21 April 2017, 19:30:09
Post by: richard912 on Fri, 21 April 2017, 22:29:48
Wow. I have been seriously one-upped in the GIF department there.Hahahaha....good one!!!
Post by: eyedrop on Fri, 21 April 2017, 22:39:37
Post by: TheCanisDirus on Sat, 22 April 2017, 00:02:34
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 22 April 2017, 00:13:40
Post by: richard912 on Sat, 22 April 2017, 00:35:57
The idea is that the shelf liner dampens some of the typing sound. It's a little esoteric and doesn't make for a huge acoustic change (in my opinion), but a lot of people are really into it. :)
I've actually been meaning to ask about this. Does the case's internal provide sufficient "clearance" for this "layer"
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Sat, 22 April 2017, 03:16:28
The Novatouch just doesn't have layer capability :(
Hasu's USB to USB mod works!
Where might I be able to get one?
Info here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69169.0 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69169.0)
Post by: poolside on Sat, 22 April 2017, 04:09:04
So that's why, with my sincerest apologies, I have to declare the cases at the legal price paid.
Even those shipping straight from China, or were you talking specifically about the powder-coated cases that you would ship out yourself?
All of the above, I'm afraid.
Thanks. I ended up ordering my galactic blue case from Originative to combine shipping with some other stuff.
Whelp long time lurker and had to make an account finally to say just how excited i am for this! I actually found "you" a while back when i tried to buy (but sadly missed) the Galaxy Class set. I ordered a tactical grey case.
Oh man, that's awesome! Welcome to GeekHack!! :cool:Oh, and let me know if you ever re-release the Galaxy caps... or if you ever want to part with one of the sets i know you must have someplace sitting around ;P
Thanks for doing what you're doing!
Actually, as it happens, I expect to have something pretty cool to announce about a new Galaxy Class++ set in a week or so. Stay tuned. ;D (If you're not already on my email list (http://eepurl.com/cnnEwr), I'll share any news there.)
Now, this could be real: :)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/gray-galaxy-class-2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1478320007)
Post by: chalks on Sat, 22 April 2017, 08:49:41
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 22 April 2017, 09:41:37
I have just put an order in and got an acceptance mail. I hope I'm not too late or causing any inconvenience.
All is well. I'm going to leave the group buy page open for part of today to account for late arrivals. Last time, several people missed the cutoff by just a few hours, and I wanted to avoid anyone being disappointed. I'm going to Silicon Valley Comic Con today, so I won't have time to draft up the order spreadsheet for the factory until late tonight anyway. So, yes, in short: if the shopping cart is still leting you check out, you can order and make it into the group buy. :) I'll post here when I shut it down later today.
Post by: zslane on Sat, 22 April 2017, 10:46:23
The idea is that the shelf liner dampens some of the typing sound. It's a little esoteric and doesn't make for a huge acoustic change (in my opinion), but a lot of people are really into it. :)
If you really want to do the job right, put a sheet of 1/10" sorbothane acoustic dampening material in there (you can get it from Amazon). I did this for a Pok3r which I re-cased with a Datamancer walnut case and it made a world of difference. But that was really necessary because the Pok3r had MX blues and the wood case really amplified all the clatter, almost like a speaker cabinet. I doubt that a NovaTouch inside a high-grade aluminum case would present the same need for dampening as my Pok3r, but if such dampening turned out to be desirable, I would go for the sorbothane sheet.
As for room inside the case, sorbothane is pretty soft (and a little sticky) and will compress as needed.
Post by: zslane on Sat, 22 April 2017, 11:27:47
Post by: chalks on Sat, 22 April 2017, 12:05:27
I have just put an order in and got an acceptance mail. I hope I'm not too late or causing any inconvenience.
All is well. I'm going to leave the group buy page open for part of today to account for late arrivals. Last time, several people missed the cutoff by just a few hours, and I wanted to avoid anyone being disappointed. I'm going to Silicon Valley Comic Con today, so I won't have time to draft up the order spreadsheet for the factory until late tonight anyway. So, yes, in short: if the shopping cart is still leting you check out, you can order and make it into the group buy. :) I'll post here when I shut it down later today.
Great! :D Thank you very much
Post by: poolside on Sat, 22 April 2017, 13:01:06
How tall are the riser feet? I couldn't find any specs on that on the order page.
Not accounting for the threaded stem, those from round 1 are 15mm high without the bumpon (about 18mm with the bumpon).
Post by: TheCanisDirus on Sat, 22 April 2017, 16:06:08
Now, this could be real: :)Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/gray-galaxy-class-2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1478320007)
Exactly what i was thinking! :D
Post by: elcubismo on Sat, 22 April 2017, 16:52:46
The idea is that the shelf liner dampens some of the typing sound. It's a little esoteric and doesn't make for a huge acoustic change (in my opinion), but a lot of people are really into it. :)
If you really want to do the job right, put a sheet of 1/10" sorbothane acoustic dampening material in there (you can get it from Amazon). I did this for a Pok3r which I re-cased with a Datamancer walnut case and it made a world of difference. But that was really necessary because the Pok3r had MX blues and the wood case really amplified all the clatter, almost like a speaker cabinet. I doubt that a NovaTouch inside a high-grade aluminum case would present the same need for dampening as my Pok3r, but if such dampening turned out to be desirable, I would go for the sorbothane sheet.
As for room inside the case, sorbothane is pretty soft (and a little sticky) and will compress as needed.
Not sure about the rules on outside links because I tend to see a lot of posts without actual links, but I think I found it on amazon. The ones I've seen are kind of large squares - can it be cut with like scissors or an exacto knife? Even if it only dampens the sound slightly, I would love to have my nova as quiet as possible.
Really looking forward to getting this case. Gonna buy some hyperspheres and lube. I bought my nova used w/ dental bands but they reduce the key travel a little too much. Currently my Leopold FC660C feels and sounds better. If Norbauer ever makes a case for the leo, I would buy it without any hesitation.
As for further mods, I really need to get some 55g domes for the novatouch. Tried a redditor's HHKB with those on it and it felt wonderful, and not too heavy as some thought. That's going to cost a pretty penny too :/
Post by: zslane on Sat, 22 April 2017, 19:37:07
The idea is that the shelf liner dampens some of the typing sound. It's a little esoteric and doesn't make for a huge acoustic change (in my opinion), but a lot of people are really into it. :)
If you really want to do the job right, put a sheet of 1/10" sorbothane acoustic dampening material in there (you can get it from Amazon). I did this for a Pok3r which I re-cased with a Datamancer walnut case and it made a world of difference. But that was really necessary because the Pok3r had MX blues and the wood case really amplified all the clatter, almost like a speaker cabinet. I doubt that a NovaTouch inside a high-grade aluminum case would present the same need for dampening as my Pok3r, but if such dampening turned out to be desirable, I would go for the sorbothane sheet.
As for room inside the case, sorbothane is pretty soft (and a little sticky) and will compress as needed.
Not sure about the rules on outside links because I tend to see a lot of posts without actual links, but I think I found it on amazon. The ones I've seen are kind of large squares - can it be cut with like scissors or an exacto knife? Even if it only dampens the sound slightly, I would love to have my nova as quiet as possible.
Really looking forward to getting this case. Gonna buy some hyperspheres and lube. I bought my nova used w/ dental bands but they reduce the key travel a little too much. Currently my Leopold FC660C feels and sounds better. If Norbauer ever makes a case for the leo, I would buy it without any hesitation.
As for further mods, I really need to get some 55g domes for the novatouch. Tried a redditor's HHKB with those on it and it felt wonderful, and not too heavy as some thought. That's going to cost a pretty penny too :/
Yes, sorbothane sheets are easy to cut with scissors or X-acto knife. And it will pretty much completely dampen any acoustic vibrations radiating out from the bottom of the PCB. It obviously won't do anything for the noise that radiates up from/through the plate. But that's what silencing rings are for. Get rid of those "dental bands" and get the bands that are meant for Topre/TMX stems. They don't reduce key travel noticeably and they do a great job of dampening the upstroke noise (which I really hate too).
Post by: zslane on Sat, 22 April 2017, 19:51:42
How tall are the riser feet? I couldn't find any specs on that on the order page.
Not accounting for the threaded stem, those from round 1 are 15mm high without the bumpon (about 18mm with the bumpon).
Thanks for the info!
Two more questions: what kind of screw thread does it have?
And do the holes that they screw into go all the way through the case? In other words, could screws for a different (shorter) riser foot be fed through from the inside?
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 22 April 2017, 22:39:05
Good news is, we go to manufacturing this week! :cool:
(https://m.popkey.co/126ab0/46qGR.gif)
Post by: bciamny on Sat, 22 April 2017, 23:58:17
hehe. i really like the way you've run this and the prior gb norbauer and i'm glad i ultimately got a chance to get in. looking forward to a great product!
Post by: TheEerieCold on Sun, 23 April 2017, 00:01:54
(http://i.imgur.com/BON2c0u.gif)
Post by: poolside on Sun, 23 April 2017, 03:38:45
How tall are the riser feet? I couldn't find any specs on that on the order page.
Not accounting for the threaded stem, those from round 1 are 15mm high without the bumpon (about 18mm with the bumpon).
Thanks for the info!
Two more questions: what kind of screw thread does it have?
And do the holes that they screw into go all the way through the case? In other words, could screws for a different (shorter) riser foot be fed through from the inside?
Regarding your second question, there was this post by Ryan in the R1 GB thread:
Anybody found/tried different riser feet? Angle is too tall for me with the included feet. Most others that I've looked into screw in from the inside of the case. Anyone found some what work for this case?
The ones that MassDrop recently sold do fit through the holes. I can vouch at least that they can be screwed into the case from the inside. Because the screw heads have a chamfer on the underside and I don't have a chamfer on the screw hole interior, however, the screw head sits a little proud (raised above the surface) of the case interior, and this may interfere with the underside of some PCBs. I haven't actually tested that yet. Anybody else had any success using other feet with the case?
Post by: snoopy on Sun, 23 April 2017, 05:18:22
Post by: poolside on Sun, 23 April 2017, 05:30:37
If the novatouch was still available, I would have definitively ordered a case. Any chance for realforce tkl cases in the future?
The Novatouches are out of stock at Originative, but
Post by: yonghf on Sun, 23 April 2017, 07:18:30
Maybe next time..
Post by: richard912 on Sun, 23 April 2017, 08:09:14
Just placed an order for the Aerospace Aluminium! Would've loved the Galactic Blue (Brushed) but price is kinda steep when including international shipping :(r2 is supposed to be the last time so, there won't be a next time....
Maybe next time..
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 24 April 2017, 17:28:19
THANK YOU SO MUCH to everyone who helped make this possible. This and r1 have been so much fun, and I've learned so much in the process. I am enormously grateful for all the help, support, and encouragement I have gotten from many, many members of this community. You guys are all amazing. <3
Oh, and as of just an hour ago, I have one or two of each of the following left for pre-order for those who didn't make it in under the GB: Aerospace aluminum, Galactic Blue, Galactic Blue brushed, Tactical Gray, Tactical Gray brushed, Retro Refrigerator. Now that the factory quantities are locked in, I can't change or add any more. Amazingly, people are still ordering, so I don't expect those to be around much longer, but if you see a finish you like still in stock in the shop (https://shop.norbauer.com/products/cnc-aluminum-case-for-cooler-master-tkl-boards-round-2), you are welcome to snag it.
Oh, and it looks like I have one medium-blue powder coat prototype (Novatouch compatability only) available now, and will have two special dark green anodized cases available to ship with the group buy. If anybody wants one of those, just message me. I didn't bother putting them in the shop.
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 24 April 2017, 19:36:36
Should anyone want the last custom green case, I put it up online:
https://shop.norbauer.com/products/coolermaster-custom-color-tkl-case-pantone-3435c
Post by: richard912 on Mon, 24 April 2017, 20:11:49
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 24 April 2017, 20:16:09
Would a USB connector of 18 x 10 x 8mm be able to fit the case?
Assuming 18mm is the length of the connector (parallel to the axis of the wire), you should be good. A 10mm x 8mm connector would fit into the connector pocket with even a bit of room to spare.
Post by: richard912 on Mon, 24 April 2017, 22:30:17
Great. Thanks for the info. Looks like I will likely need to commission another set of custom cables soon to replace my existing Pexon new style mod set.Would a USB connector of 18 x 10 x 8mm be able to fit the case?
Assuming 18mm is the length of the connector (parallel to the axis of the wire), you should be good. A 10mm x 8mm connector would fit into the connector pocket with even a bit of room to spare.
Post by: pexon on Tue, 25 April 2017, 06:24:33
Post by: richard912 on Tue, 25 April 2017, 07:25:56
For those interested in slimmer Micro USBs, I have ordered some, I will wait and see what the quality is like before I offer them, but it should be a workaround! :DFantastic!! Do keep us posted, or me at least. Will need to commission a new style mod connector for this
Post by: autobot on Tue, 25 April 2017, 11:21:13
Post by: zslane on Tue, 25 April 2017, 12:27:57
Do the Massdrop CNC Aluminum cone feet fit with the PCB and shelf liner installed and all closed up? I remember reading that the screws stick up a bit on the inside...
If you read twelve messages above yours you will see the answer.
Post by: autobot on Wed, 26 April 2017, 06:21:27
Do the Massdrop CNC Aluminum cone feet fit with the PCB and shelf liner installed and all closed up? I remember reading that the screws stick up a bit on the inside...
If you read twelve messages above yours you will see the answer.
Derp, thanks!
Post by: superpiya on Wed, 26 April 2017, 11:10:54
Do the Massdrop CNC Aluminum cone feet fit with the PCB and shelf liner installed and all closed up? I remember reading that the screws stick up a bit on the inside...
If you read twelve messages above yours you will see the answer.
Lol, did you really count that :))
Post by: autobot on Wed, 26 April 2017, 12:10:17
Do the Massdrop CNC Aluminum cone feet fit with the PCB and shelf liner installed and all closed up? I remember reading that the screws stick up a bit on the inside...
If you read twelve messages above yours you will see the answer.
Lol, did you really count that :))
:)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))
Post by: zslane on Wed, 26 April 2017, 12:37:29
Do the Massdrop CNC Aluminum cone feet fit with the PCB and shelf liner installed and all closed up? I remember reading that the screws stick up a bit on the inside...
If you read twelve messages above yours you will see the answer.
Lol, did you really count that :))
Yes. I can even count to twenty, and I can spell my own name. My parents are very proud.
Post by: nightdriver on Wed, 26 April 2017, 13:20:46
(http://i.imgur.com/18uTOP2.jpg)
i'll take another one later today when it's not so bright in here.
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 27 April 2017, 11:25:42
received my enigma case. unfortunately it seems like i may have to send it back to deal with threading on one of the riser foot holes, but it looks awesome so i wanted to post a picture first:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/18uTOP2.jpg)
i'll take another one later today when it's not so bright in here.
Hey nightdriver. Thanks for sharing the photo and kind words! Do send back the prototype case you have there so I can fix that threading issue you were having, if it's a concern to you at all.
For those curious, he had some trouble getting one of the riser feet in and used to pliers to help one of them along, which damaged the finish a bit. Fortunately, I have a spare set of enigma black feet, but I also want to check out the threads to see why they weren't going in easily. In my past experience, sometimes the riser feet do need a bit of force to screw in properly, especially on the powder cases. (I think the powder process may affect the threads somehow—either the heat or how they hold them during coating). For those situations, I recommend against using metal tools and instead would suggest using something grippy like drawer liner. If you screw the riser foot in until it hits resistance and then back it off until it's loose and then screw it in more with force again, you'll find that each time it goes in a little bit more until it's in all the way. This process essentially re-forms the threads on the foot using the tapped grooves in the case bottom. I have never encountered a riser foot situation where this process didn't work, even though it required a some slightly annoying effort/patience. :)
Post by: zslane on Thu, 27 April 2017, 12:26:18
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Fri, 28 April 2017, 20:20:59
Powder coating adds a fraction of an inch to the thickness so the screw holes get a tad tighter than plannedreceived my enigma case. unfortunately it seems like i may have to send it back to deal with threading on one of the riser foot holes, but it looks awesome so i wanted to post a picture first:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/18uTOP2.jpg)
i'll take another one later today when it's not so bright in here.
Hey nightdriver. Thanks for sharing the photo and kind words! Do send back the prototype case you have there so I can fix that threading issue you were having, if it's a concern to you at all.
For those curious, he had some trouble getting one of the riser feet in and used to pliers to help one of them along, which damaged the finish a bit. Fortunately, I have a spare set of enigma black feet, but I also want to check out the threads to see why they weren't going in easily. In my past experience, sometimes the riser feet do need a bit of force to screw in properly, especially on the powder cases. (I think the powder process may affect the threads somehow—either the heat or how they hold them during coating). For those situations, I recommend against using metal tools and instead would suggest using something grippy like drawer liner. If you screw the riser foot in until it hits resistance and then back it off until it's loose and then screw it in more with force again, you'll find that each time it goes in a little bit more until it's in all the way. This process essentially re-forms the threads on the foot using the tapped grooves in the case bottom. I have never encountered a riser foot situation where this process didn't work, even though it required a some slightly annoying effort/patience. :)
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 28 April 2017, 23:28:46
Powder coating adds a fraction of an inch to the thickness so the screw holes get a tad tighter than plannedreceived my enigma case. unfortunately it seems like i may have to send it back to deal with threading on one of the riser foot holes, but it looks awesome so i wanted to post a picture first:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/18uTOP2.jpg)
i'll take another one later today when it's not so bright in here.
Hey nightdriver. Thanks for sharing the photo and kind words! Do send back the prototype case you have there so I can fix that threading issue you were having, if it's a concern to you at all.
For those curious, he had some trouble getting one of the riser feet in and used to pliers to help one of them along, which damaged the finish a bit. Fortunately, I have a spare set of enigma black feet, but I also want to check out the threads to see why they weren't going in easily. In my past experience, sometimes the riser feet do need a bit of force to screw in properly, especially on the powder cases. (I think the powder process may affect the threads somehow—either the heat or how they hold them during coating). For those situations, I recommend against using metal tools and instead would suggest using something grippy like drawer liner. If you screw the riser foot in until it hits resistance and then back it off until it's loose and then screw it in more with force again, you'll find that each time it goes in a little bit more until it's in all the way. This process essentially re-forms the threads on the foot using the tapped grooves in the case bottom. I have never encountered a riser foot situation where this process didn't work, even though it required a some slightly annoying effort/patience. :)
True in general, but I had the threads masked off from the powder.
Post by: bayfury on Sat, 29 April 2017, 13:29:59
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 29 April 2017, 13:49:54
Where do we get the blank keycap set in the picture?
Which picture?
Post by: bayfury on Sat, 29 April 2017, 14:56:04
Where do we get the blank keycap set in the picture?
Which picture?
The white and black in the first post.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170429/4c9e1cd96db7d902b1f1ef70cbc0bb8f.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170429/9cd1bc287d21387937bbdd112875c3e1.jpg)
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 29 April 2017, 15:03:52
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/34742
Post by: richard912 on Sat, 29 April 2017, 19:08:08
Here's an option to consider https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/NPKC-Blank-PBT-Keycap-Beige-Gray-Cherry-Profile-For-Cherry-MX-Switches-Mechanical-Keyboard-G803000/2230037_32808443645.html?spm=2114.12010612.0.0.Du0AMRWhere do we get the blank keycap set in the picture?
Which picture?
The white and black in the first post.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170429/4c9e1cd96db7d902b1f1ef70cbc0bb8f.jpg)Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170429/9cd1bc287d21387937bbdd112875c3e1.jpg)
Post by: nurbs on Mon, 01 May 2017, 14:39:57
I have heard that as well, but I don't have a Pexon cable myself with which to test.
You can do this with the case, however. ;)
Is this Aerospace Aluminum or Tactical Gray ?
Also, you got PM :D
Thats regular gray from r1
Thanks man :thumb:
Is it lighter in color than the current R2 Tactical Gray?
Yes. The R1 gray you see in the video is Cool Gray 11 C (http://rgb.to/pantone/cool-gray-11-c) while the R2 tactial gray is 2336 C (http://rgb.to/pantone/2336-c).
Actually, the video is the gray from Originative, a slightly cooler gray than the R1.
Post by: TheEerieCold on Mon, 01 May 2017, 16:42:41
(http://i.imgur.com/dTOvLI8.jpg)
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Mon, 01 May 2017, 17:14:46
I have heard that as well, but I don't have a Pexon cable myself with which to test.
You can do this with the case, however. ;)
Is this Aerospace Aluminum or Tactical Gray ?
Also, you got PM :D
Thats regular gray from r1
Thanks man :thumb:
Is it lighter in color than the current R2 Tactical Gray?
Yes. The R1 gray you see in the video is Cool Gray 11 C (http://rgb.to/pantone/cool-gray-11-c) while the R2 tactial gray is 2336 C (http://rgb.to/pantone/2336-c).
Actually, the video is the gray from Originative, a slightly cooler gray than the R1.
I know that's the R1 Originative gray and I listed the correct color. Don't try to correct someone without being confident that there is a error or you'll look like a fool.
Post by: zslane on Mon, 01 May 2017, 17:42:46
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 01 May 2017, 17:51:58
Anyway, no harm in giving people the benefit of the doubt and a fair measure of goodwill. Or so say I at least. :)
Post by: zslane on Mon, 01 May 2017, 18:24:29
Unfortunately they won't do powder-coated white.
Maybe the Peach will inspire Ryan to produce what they won't...
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 01 May 2017, 18:35:12
I found this to be very interesting: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89150.0
I agree. That is a pretty cool design! Machining quality looks pretty good too.
Unfortunately they won't do powder-coated white.
Maybe the Peach will inspire Ryan to produce what they won't...
Do you mean a 100% board+case in white?
I have almost finished my new RealForce 87U case design, by the way. And that one is definitely going to be offered in white as the default option, but in a material and finish that I think will surprise everyone. ;) (I'm not trying trying to be coy or cagey, btw; I just don't want to promise something until I'm sure I can deliver it. I'll start an IC thread once I'm 100% sure I can produce it.)
Post by: zslane on Mon, 01 May 2017, 19:30:11
Do you mean a 100% board+case in white?
Yes.
An aluminum case in white for the RealForce RGB would be my ultimate end-game product.
I don't need a full DIY kit (with PCB and plate) if the case fits the RealForce RGB...
Post by: clappingcactus on Mon, 01 May 2017, 21:43:16
I'm not trying trying to be coy or cagey, btw; I just don't want to promise something until I'm sure I can deliver it. I'll start an IC thread once I'm 100% sure I can produce it.
What do I get if I guess 'ceramic' and it I turn out to be correct? :P
Post by: theillumedpanda on Tue, 02 May 2017, 06:19:13
Now I just need to figure out which keyset goes well with that colour. If you have any keyset suggestions, please let me know :D
Post by: cynviloq on Tue, 02 May 2017, 09:56:15
Hey Norbauer, I don't know why but I somehow missed the dead line and just now realised that I really missed the GB. The only option left is this one https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/blue-brushed-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491597409 (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/blue-brushed-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491597409), right?
Now I just need to figure out which keyset goes well with that colour. If you have any keyset suggestions, please let me know :D
Blue Alert / Olivetti could look nice if you're going all in on the blue!
Post by: theillumedpanda on Tue, 02 May 2017, 10:41:21
These sets both look excellent. What do you think about GMK Hydro? Would that also work in your eyes?Hey Norbauer, I don't know why but I somehow missed the dead line and just now realised that I really missed the GB. The only option left is this one https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/blue-brushed-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491597409 (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/blue-brushed-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491597409), right?
Now I just need to figure out which keyset goes well with that colour. If you have any keyset suggestions, please let me know :D
Blue Alert / Olivetti could look nice if you're going all in on the blue!
Post by: cynviloq on Tue, 02 May 2017, 11:07:44
These sets both look excellent. What do you think about GMK Hydro? Would that also work in your eyes?Hey Norbauer, I don't know why but I somehow missed the dead line and just now realised that I really missed the GB. The only option left is this one https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/blue-brushed-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491597409 (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/blue-brushed-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491597409), right?
Now I just need to figure out which keyset goes well with that colour. If you have any keyset suggestions, please let me know :D
Blue Alert / Olivetti could look nice if you're going all in on the blue!
Hydro would also look good, though the blue is a bit darker than the Brushed Blue. I think I would prefer the first two over Hydro, but that's just a personal preference. All the blue sets would look great!
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 02 May 2017, 12:40:42
Brushed galactic blue (two left)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/blue-brushed-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491597409)
https://shop.norbauer.com/products/cnc-aluminum-case-for-cooler-master-tkl-boards-round-2
Dark green, bead-blasted (one left)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/green-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491601813)
https://shop.norbauer.com/products/coolermaster-custom-color-tkl-case-pantone-3435c (https://shop.norbauer.com/products/coolermaster-custom-color-tkl-case-pantone-3435c)
Post by: cynviloq on Tue, 02 May 2017, 13:01:44
I agree with all the set color suggestions above. :) And, yes, I can confirm that there are only two options left:
Brushed galactic blue (two left)Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/blue-brushed-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491597409)
https://shop.norbauer.com/products/cnc-aluminum-case-for-cooler-master-tkl-boards-round-2
Dark green, bead-blasted (one left)Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/green-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491601813)
https://shop.norbauer.com/products/coolermaster-custom-color-tkl-case-pantone-3435c (https://shop.norbauer.com/products/coolermaster-custom-color-tkl-case-pantone-3435c)
The dark green looks awesome every time I see the picture - so glad I signed up for one. Can you say how many of the Dark Green will be produced for this round?
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 02 May 2017, 13:03:47
The dark green looks awesome every time I see the picture - so glad I signed up for one. Can you say how many of the Dark Green will be produced for this round?
Three total. :)
Post by: cynviloq on Tue, 02 May 2017, 13:10:44
The dark green looks awesome every time I see the picture - so glad I signed up for one. Can you say how many of the Dark Green will be produced for this round?
Three total. :)
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Post by: zslane on Tue, 02 May 2017, 14:29:11
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 02 May 2017, 14:32:33
How many powder-coated white will be made?
Without having access to the numbers at the moment, around 3-4 as I recall.
Post by: theillumedpanda on Tue, 02 May 2017, 14:58:43
I agree with all the set color suggestions above. :) And, yes, I can confirm that there are only two options left:Hmm, just bought the brushed galactic blue case. Can't wait to have that in my hands! Is that a render or is it a photo? So glad I could get one. Now I just need to source either GMK Olivetti (my favourite) or GMK Blue Alert. Thanks for doing this!
Brushed galactic blue (two left)Show Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/blue-brushed-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491597409)
https://shop.norbauer.com/products/cnc-aluminum-case-for-cooler-master-tkl-boards-round-2
Do you have any plans on creating cases for other keyboards? I'd especially love to see a 60% case with your design! :)
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Tue, 02 May 2017, 18:15:26
Well shoot, now I'm curious how many people went with Retro Refrigerator! :))How many powder-coated white will be made?
Without having access to the numbers at the moment, around 3-4 as I recall.
Post by: nurbs on Tue, 02 May 2017, 22:20:31
I have heard that as well, but I don't have a Pexon cable myself with which to test.
You can do this with the case, however. ;)
Is this Aerospace Aluminum or Tactical Gray ?
Also, you got PM :D
Thats regular gray from r1
Thanks man :thumb:
Is it lighter in color than the current R2 Tactical Gray?
Yes. The R1 gray you see in the video is Cool Gray 11 C (http://rgb.to/pantone/cool-gray-11-c) while the R2 tactial gray is 2336 C (http://rgb.to/pantone/2336-c).
Actually, the video is the gray from Originative, a slightly cooler gray than the R1.
I know that's the R1 Originative gray and I listed the correct color. Don't try to correct someone without being confident that there is a error or you'll look like a fool.
Um, I wasn't? Just trying to be helpful since the hand in that video is mine. So sensitive haha.
Post by: superpiya on Wed, 03 May 2017, 00:33:37
I have heard that as well, but I don't have a Pexon cable myself with which to test.
You can do this with the case, however. ;)
Is this Aerospace Aluminum or Tactical Gray ?
Also, you got PM :D
Thats regular gray from r1
Thanks man :thumb:
Is it lighter in color than the current R2 Tactical Gray?
Yes. The R1 gray you see in the video is Cool Gray 11 C (http://rgb.to/pantone/cool-gray-11-c) while the R2 tactial gray is 2336 C (http://rgb.to/pantone/2336-c).
Actually, the video is the gray from Originative, a slightly cooler gray than the R1.
I know that's the R1 Originative gray and I listed the correct color. Don't try to correct someone without being confident that there is a error or you'll look like a fool.
Um, I wasn't? Just trying to be helpful since the hand in that video is mine. So sensitive haha.
Lol, thanks for the video man. The cable is WSKEN X-cable Mini 2, correct?
Post by: nightdriver on Wed, 03 May 2017, 16:58:20
Hey Norbauer, I don't know why but I somehow missed the dead line and just now realised that I really missed the GB. The only option left is this one https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/blue-brushed-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491597409 (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/blue-brushed-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491597409), right?
Now I just need to figure out which keyset goes well with that colour. If you have any keyset suggestions, please let me know :D
i'm planning to put symbiosis on mine. electric bluegaloo with triumph adler alphas would also probably look sweet. and then there's gmk nautilus when that finally happens...
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 03 May 2017, 17:01:53
I got confirmation from the factory yesterday that they got the deposit and production has begun!! :D
Post by: eksuen on Wed, 03 May 2017, 18:37:43
Sorry for my slow posts today. Just wanted to post an update: there are two brushed galactic blue cases left and that's it. Then I'll be taking the store offline (or, more precisely, turning off the ability to check out.)
I got confirmation from the factory yesterday that they got the deposit and production has begun!! :D
Blessed be s/he who took the last green. :thumb:
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 03 May 2017, 18:41:35
Sorry for my slow posts today. Just wanted to post an update: there are two brushed galactic blue cases left and that's it. Then I'll be taking the store offline (or, more precisely, turning off the ability to check out.)
I got confirmation from the factory yesterday that they got the deposit and production has begun!! :D
Blessed be s/he who took the last green. :thumb:
And he who told me to do a few green ones in the first place. ;)
Post by: superpiya on Thu, 04 May 2017, 11:15:59
Sorry for my slow posts today. Just wanted to post an update: there are two brushed galactic blue cases left and that's it. Then I'll be taking the store offline (or, more precisely, turning off the ability to check out.)
I got confirmation from the factory yesterday that they got the deposit and production has begun!! :D
Wow, and I thought blue would be the most popular pick since there are so many blue keysets out there :))
Post by: zslane on Thu, 04 May 2017, 12:23:57
Post by: hpfalcon on Thu, 04 May 2017, 14:43:39
Folks seem completely dazzled by the light green one. I don't know if they even noticed blue was an option after they saw Retro Refrigerator.
id bet way more people got galactic blue than retro refrigerator. The retro is just talked about more, since its a pretty exotic color (as far as mechs go)
Post by: bciamny on Thu, 04 May 2017, 23:19:45
thanks :)
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 05 May 2017, 11:47:59
hey norbauer (or anyone else in the know), any idea on whether the cooler master masterkeys s - first look that is on sale at massdrop right now is supported by this case? i'd love to get the speed silvers into this.
thanks :)
It is very likely that the plate would fit (I'm assuming it's the same plate as the Master Key Pro S), but you'd almost certainly have to remove the three LEDs above the arrow keys from the PCB.
Post by: Aperture_Sci on Sat, 06 May 2017, 01:30:18
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 06 May 2017, 01:31:45
Hey, looking at the title - is there any spots open for this?
Hey buddy, I believe this is the last spot:
https://shop.norbauer.com/products/cnc-aluminum-case-for-cooler-master-tkl-boards-round-2
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 06 May 2017, 11:22:45
Hey, looking at the title - is there any spots open for this?
Hey buddy, I believe this is the last spot:
https://shop.norbauer.com/products/cnc-aluminum-case-for-cooler-master-tkl-boards-round-2
LightningXI is correct. The only case I have left is a single galactic blue one in the brushed finish.
Post by: theillumedpanda on Sun, 07 May 2017, 12:01:37
How many of those have you sold? I'm really looking forward to mine.Hey, looking at the title - is there any spots open for this?
Hey buddy, I believe this is the last spot:
https://shop.norbauer.com/products/cnc-aluminum-case-for-cooler-master-tkl-boards-round-2
LightningXI is correct. The only case I have left is a single galactic blue one in the brushed finish.
Post by: SICAR187 on Tue, 09 May 2017, 01:20:48
Post by: clappingcactus on Tue, 09 May 2017, 08:19:29
Anyone else get one of the "Early Access" cases they want to show off? ;D
I should have a retro refrigerator in around 48 hours.
Will absolutely post pics!
Post by: richard912 on Tue, 09 May 2017, 09:00:12
Anyone else get one of the "Early Access" cases they want to show off? ;DKnock yourself out: https://www.google.com/search?q=norbauer+case&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwiI75iM_OLTAhVGppQKHbrpC30Q_AUIBigB&biw=2118&bih=1304#spf=1
Post by: clappingcactus on Thu, 11 May 2017, 19:12:07
(http://i.imgur.com/InUgQPT.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/GfFeCcQ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qmzcU3F.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/m087I20.jpg)
Waiting on /dev/tty CMYK R5 mods and SA Oblivion F-keys and mods for every other key.
Endgame is only a year away ...
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 11 May 2017, 19:19:14
As promised;Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/InUgQPT.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/GfFeCcQ.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qmzcU3F.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/uC86oI4.jpg)
Waiting on /dev/tty CMYK R5 mods and SA Oblivion F-keys and mods for every other key.
Endgame is only a year away ...
Oh man, that is going to be one hard-core retro keyboard when you're done. I love it.
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 11 May 2017, 19:21:21
I think I'm maybe going to use the extra time to get some custom boxes and packaging made so that they'll be well protected during shipment. With any luck, stuff should hopefully be shipping out around the beginning of next month, still nicely ahead of schedule.
Post by: clappingcactus on Thu, 11 May 2017, 19:26:53
Oh man, that is going to be one hard-core retro keyboard when you're done. I love it.
Agreed. I have always wanted a Dolch inspired board but never liked the general colours for keyboards it came with. The minute I imagined it sitting on a mint green a couple of months ago, I couldn't get the idea out of my head. BTW I tried to colour balance as well as I could, but the case really is minty green more than it is blue in real life! Absolutely a 'retro refrigerator' colour!
For people who have never owned a Norbauer case before, man it's a perfect fit (I mean perfect). The tiny amount of wiggle room left between the Novatouch's plate and the bottom half of the case is perfectly countered by the vertical clearance (almost none) making sure there's no dead space anywhere. Typing on it right now and it feels, looks and sounds amazing. I hope everyone else who gets these is just as happy with them.
:)
And I can't to see what you do next, norbauer.
Post by: ipreferpie on Thu, 11 May 2017, 19:28:03
Post by: richard912 on Thu, 11 May 2017, 21:27:14
By the way, the cases are almost done (!)—well ahead of schedule. Machining is likely to be done tomorrow, and then anodizing next week, barring unforeseen problems (and when aren't there any.)Thanks for the update!
I think I'm maybe going to use the extra time to get some custom boxes and packaging made so that they'll be well protected during shipment. With any luck, stuff should hopefully be shipping out around the beginning of next month, still nicely ahead of schedule.
Post by: zslane on Thu, 11 May 2017, 22:00:42
Waiting on /dev/tty CMYK R5 mods and SA Oblivion F-keys and mods for every other key.
MT3 is noticeably shorter than SA. I think mixing them would look and feel pretty odd.
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Thu, 11 May 2017, 22:03:25
As promised;Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/InUgQPT.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/GfFeCcQ.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qmzcU3F.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/m087I20.jpg)
Waiting on /dev/tty CMYK R5 mods and SA Oblivion F-keys and mods for every other key.
Endgame is only a year away ...
:eek: :eek: :eek: that is so sick looking! I have no idea what I'm going pair with this case but it looked too good to pass up - really glad I went with Retro after seeing your post.
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Fri, 12 May 2017, 03:21:38
By the way, the cases are almost done (!)—well ahead of schedule. Machining is likely to be done tomorrow, and then anodizing next week, barring unforeseen problems (and when aren't there any.)It's getting real! HYPE! :cool:
I think I'm maybe going to use the extra time to get some custom boxes and packaging made so that they'll be well protected during shipment. With any luck, stuff should hopefully be shipping out around the beginning of next month, still nicely ahead of schedule.
Post by: theillumedpanda on Fri, 12 May 2017, 04:29:42
Cheers
Post by: clappingcactus on Fri, 12 May 2017, 07:38:54
I'm hoping since I generally don't mind that some keysets go SA r4-r3 on the bottom two rows, that I also wouldn't mind mixing profiles. We'll see. If all my mods end up being oblivion it won't be so bad either haha.Waiting on /dev/tty CMYK R5 mods and SA Oblivion F-keys and mods for every other key.
MT3 is noticeably shorter than SA. I think mixing them would look and feel pretty odd.
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Post by: iichigoz on Wed, 17 May 2017, 23:29:05
Post by: SICAR187 on Wed, 17 May 2017, 23:58:26
Hi the thread stated that there is one more spot left but I couldn't make any order? Is it taken?You should PM or email Ryan (or both), he has the details.
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 18 May 2017, 11:52:02
Hey Norbauer, I've sent you an email. I just wanted to make sure that you've received it.
Cheers
Hiya theillumedpanda. Since I don't always know how GH usernames map to real-world names, I can't be sure that I've replied to you, but at present I don't think I have any unanswered messages. Feel free to ping me if i missed anything. ;)
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 18 May 2017, 11:52:51
Hi the thread stated that there is one more spot left but I couldn't make any order? Is it taken?
I'm sorry to report that the final extra case actually sold yesterday. I have now updated the thread title.
Post by: theillumedpanda on Thu, 18 May 2017, 12:04:34
Nope, everything's fine! I'm the one with the Blue Brushed Case. I'll reply to your latest email, sorry, I was a bit busy.Hey Norbauer, I've sent you an email. I just wanted to make sure that you've received it.
Cheers
Hiya theillumedpanda. Since I don't always know how GH usernames map to real-world names, I can't be sure that I've replied to you, but at present I don't think I have any unanswered messages. Feel free to ping me if i missed anything. ;)
Now I just need to source a Novatouch :D
Post by: theillumedpanda on Mon, 22 May 2017, 16:39:17
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 22 May 2017, 16:52:55
I'm looking to sell my Galactic Blue (brushed) spot (seen here: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/blue-brushed-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491597409 (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/blue-brushed-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491597409)). If you're interested in it, please PM me.
BTW, if you swap places with theillumedpanda, the case will ship directly to you, new and unopened. :)
Post by: theillumedpanda on Mon, 22 May 2017, 16:58:37
Post by: hpfalcon on Mon, 22 May 2017, 19:36:40
Post by: jacky on Mon, 22 May 2017, 23:00:12
Post by: h3xadat on Tue, 23 May 2017, 04:13:42
Post by: elcubismo on Wed, 24 May 2017, 14:40:42
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 24 May 2017, 14:45:03
I know this takes time to manufacture and ship, but is there an approximation as to when the boards would be shipped/delivered to the US? I want to time it so I can get hyperspheres, lube, and foam liner shipped so I can add all the mods in one go.
We're on track to ship earlier than expected, likely in a couple of weeks. This is always subject to hiccups and unforeseen delays, of course, but for buyers in the US, I'd currently expect to see them in the middle of, or certainly by the end of, June.
Post by: elcubismo on Wed, 24 May 2017, 14:53:00
I know this takes time to manufacture and ship, but is there an approximation as to when the boards would be shipped/delivered to the US? I want to time it so I can get hyperspheres, lube, and foam liner shipped so I can add all the mods in one go.
We're on track to ship earlier than expected, likely in a couple of weeks. This is always subject to hiccups and unforeseen delays, of course, but for buyers in the US, I'd currently expect to see them in the middle of, or certainly by the end of, June.
Thanks for the quick response! Also not to push it to the point of exhaustion, but I'd be the first in line for a fc660c case :thumb:
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Wed, 24 May 2017, 16:00:36
I know this takes time to manufacture and ship, but is there an approximation as to when the boards would be shipped/delivered to the US? I want to time it so I can get hyperspheres, lube, and foam liner shipped so I can add all the mods in one go.
We're on track to ship earlier than expected, likely in a couple of weeks. This is always subject to hiccups and unforeseen delays, of course, but for buyers in the US, I'd currently expect to see them in the middle of, or certainly by the end of, June.
Thanks for the quick response! Also not to push it to the point of exhaustion, but I'd be the first in line for a fc660c case :thumb:
Oh please no..... cause I wouldn't be able to resist that and all the monies for 2017 are gone :))
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 24 May 2017, 16:07:42
Post by: cynviloq on Wed, 24 May 2017, 16:44:52
Haha. OK, guys. I'm calling uncle. I just ordered an FC660C and will start working on a design for it while waiting for the RealForce prototypes to be sorted out. :)
So now I have to buy an FC660C...?????
Post by: eksuen on Wed, 24 May 2017, 16:50:21
Haha. OK, guys. I'm calling uncle. I just ordered an FC660C and will start working on a design for it while waiting for the RealForce prototypes to be sorted out. :)
So now I have to buy an FC660C...?????
Looks that way.
Post by: snoopy on Wed, 24 May 2017, 17:04:43
Haha. OK, guys. I'm calling uncle. I just ordered an FC660C and will start working on a design for it while waiting for the RealForce prototypes to be sorted out. :)
Realforce! Awesome!
Post by: zslane on Wed, 24 May 2017, 17:33:42
Haha. OK, guys. I'm calling uncle. I just ordered an FC660C and will start working on a design for it while waiting for the RealForce prototypes to be sorted out. :)
Realforce! Awesome!
Yeah, but it's the wrong RealForce... ;D
Post by: WarCommand on Wed, 24 May 2017, 21:39:28
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Post by: Atredl on Wed, 24 May 2017, 23:45:59
HHKB is feeling VERY left out at this point...Please don't leave out the smallest brother of the topre family
Post by: madindehead on Thu, 25 May 2017, 06:12:07
Have you considered making cases for the bigger Cooler Master Masterkeys L boards? Or are they not as popular? (Thinking about it, they probably aren't as popular).
Post by: theillumedpanda on Thu, 25 May 2017, 06:21:27
HHKB is feeling VERY left out at this point...I think that it's particularly difficult to produce one, I'm not too sure why though. If I remember correctly, I've seen Rama talking about its difficulties and why it takes so much time to create one, but I can't provide any further information I'm afraid.
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Post by: snoopy on Thu, 25 May 2017, 07:49:09
Haha. OK, guys. I'm calling uncle. I just ordered an FC660C and will start working on a design for it while waiting for the RealForce prototypes to be sorted out. :)
Realforce! Awesome!
Yeah, but it's the wrong RealForce... ;D
the wrong?
Post by: hpfalcon on Thu, 25 May 2017, 08:02:36
HHKB is feeling VERY left out at this point...I think that it's particularly difficult to produce one, I'm not too sure why though. If I remember correctly, I've seen Rama talking about its difficulties and why it takes so much time to create one, but I can't provide any further information I'm afraid.
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the housings for the sliders are part of the case, so any custom case will also have to include them, unlike the Nova, rf, or 660c where the entire assembly is all attached to the pcb and can be removed as one piece and put into another case
Post by: avid on Thu, 25 May 2017, 09:13:20
Also, will Originative get any more restocks of them?
Super nice cases anyhow.
Post by: h3xadat on Thu, 25 May 2017, 09:30:38
Do you have any B-grades/damaged/samples that your going to sell? Id be very interested to pick up a dented one for example, since i missed the GB.
Also, will Originative get any more restocks of them?
Super nice cases anyhow.
I asked Originative a week ago and they answered that there is no current plan at the moment to have these restocked.
But ask theillumedpanda. He is willing to transfer his spot for a Galactic Blue case.
Post by: elcubismo on Thu, 25 May 2017, 09:32:07
Haha. OK, guys. I'm calling uncle. I just ordered an FC660C and will start working on a design for it while waiting for the RealForce prototypes to be sorted out. :)
This man is a legend!
(http://images.scribblelive.com/2015/2/18/8fbd2a93-b988-4b52-9841-4477cbfbe55a.jpg)
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 25 May 2017, 10:35:58
This man is a legend!Show Image(http://images.scribblelive.com/2015/2/18/8fbd2a93-b988-4b52-9841-4477cbfbe55a.jpg)
Haha. Man, did I love that movie when I was a kid.
Post by: zslane on Thu, 25 May 2017, 13:28:33
Haha. OK, guys. I'm calling uncle. I just ordered an FC660C and will start working on a design for it while waiting for the RealForce prototypes to be sorted out. :)
Realforce! Awesome!
Yeah, but it's the wrong RealForce... ;D
the wrong?
Yeah, I'm desperate for a powder-coated white CNC aluminum replacement case for my RealForce RGB boards.
Post by: cmc on Thu, 25 May 2017, 15:55:48
Post by: zslane on Thu, 25 May 2017, 18:24:09
Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 30 May 2017, 17:21:05
I have recently unexpectedly had an address change. How do I change my address on my order?
Thanks
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 30 May 2017, 21:08:08
Hi.
I have recently unexpectedly had an address change. How do I change my address on my order?
Thanks
No worries, a couple others are in the same situation. Just reply to your order confirmation email and let me know your new address. :)
Post by: nightdriver on Wed, 31 May 2017, 18:23:25
Haha. OK, guys. I'm calling uncle. I just ordered an FC660C and will start working on a design for it while waiting for the RealForce prototypes to be sorted out. :)
So now I have to buy an FC660C...?????
haha i'm thinking the same thing... if i do, i'm limiting myself to one case this time.
Post by: consolation on Sat, 03 June 2017, 02:03:16
I did find one reference on reddit, but can't get hold of the user to get more details /how well it worked out.
TIA
edit 8/6/17:
PS. Thanks for the offers, I've arranged to take over another user's order already. :-)
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Sat, 03 June 2017, 08:05:02
Sorry for the off topic question, but this seems like a collection of people who might know the answer; is there an aluminum case that could be modded to fit a novatouch? I ended up being an owner of one couple days after the last GB place closed. :'( So, what did people do before our god of the forge Norbauer's creation; I'm pretty handy with a dremel and a grinding wheel... was there any known moddable case?
I did find one reference on reddit, but can't get hold of the user to get more details /how well it worked out.
TIA
I doubt it, but I bet there will be people selling theirs on mechmarket after R2 ships.
Post by: child on Wed, 07 June 2017, 11:37:48
We're on track to ship earlier than expected, likely in a couple of weeks. This is always subject to hiccups and unforeseen delays, of course, but for buyers in the US, I'd currently expect to see them in the middle of, or certainly by the end of, June.
Is that time estimation still valid? A couple of weeks just passed ;D
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 07 June 2017, 12:21:17
We're on track to ship earlier than expected, likely in a couple of weeks. This is always subject to hiccups and unforeseen delays, of course, but for buyers in the US, I'd currently expect to see them in the middle of, or certainly by the end of, June.
Is that time estimation still valid? A couple of weeks just passed ;D
Yes, it is still valid in terms of manufacturing the cases. The cases are actually completely done and ready.
However, since we were running ahead of schedule, I decided to take the extra expense and time to get some custom packaging made, which is adding another two weeks or so to the ship date. It ended up taking a week or so longer than I'd hoped, but I think it makes for a very nice upgrade, both in terms of the aesthetics and the safety of the packaging, as it adds custom form-fitting EVA foam, which should add additional protection to the product during shipping.
Here are the renders:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/r2packagingmain.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/r2packaging.png)
I've also gotten the packaging samples and they look great. Manufacturing on the boxes began yesterday and takes about two weeks.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/r2packagingsample.jpg)
I hope you guys don't mind. I think you'll like the final result. :)
Post by: eksuen on Wed, 07 June 2017, 12:25:35
Post by: JDragon on Wed, 07 June 2017, 16:36:17
We're on track to ship earlier than expected, likely in a couple of weeks. This is always subject to hiccups and unforeseen delays, of course, but for buyers in the US, I'd currently expect to see them in the middle of, or certainly by the end of, June.
Is that time estimation still valid? A couple of weeks just passed ;D
Yes, it is still valid in terms of manufacturing the cases. The cases are actually completely done and ready.
However, since we were running ahead of schedule, I decided to take the extra expense and time to get some custom packaging made, which is adding another two weeks or so to the ship date. It ended up taking a week or so longer than I'd hoped, but I think it makes for a very nice upgrade, both in terms of the aesthetics and the safety of the packaging, as it adds custom form-fitting EVA foam, which should add additional protection to the product during shipping.
Here are the renders:Show Image(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/r2packagingmain.png)Show Image(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/r2packaging.png)
I've also gotten the packaging samples and they look great. Manufacturing on the boxes began yesterday and takes about two weeks.Show Image(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/r2packagingsample.jpg)
I hope you guys don't mind. I think you'll like the final result. :)
That looks sharp as hell. Love it.
Don't mind at all. I haven't gotten around to modding the Masterkeys boards that will go in these anyway.
I just modded a Masterkeys board for my case, it's super easy. I was able to desolder and resolder the whole board in ~2 hours.
Post by: eksuen on Wed, 07 June 2017, 17:17:01
Don't mind at all. I haven't gotten around to modding the Masterkeys boards that will go in these anyway.
I just modded a Masterkeys board for my case, it's super easy. I was able to desolder and resolder the whole board in ~2 hours.
Yeah, I don't imagine it'll take very long, but I just haven't found the time to sit down and do it.
Post by: poolside on Wed, 07 June 2017, 18:03:01
This could be handy to store a keyboard away. The NT stems do not protrude that much from the alu case.
Post by: bciamny on Wed, 07 June 2017, 18:24:57
thanks norbauer!
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 07 June 2017, 18:32:15
may seem quaint but i'm a big fan of nice packaging. makes getting something seem more special.
thanks norbauer!
Nice box! Will it come with the cases ordered through Originative?
This could be handy to store a keyboard away. The NT stems do not protrude that much from the alu case.
Thanks, guys. I felt the same way and thus figured it was worth a bit of extra wait. I also just thought it would be fun to learn how to design an EVA foam cutout and box like this, which it was. :)
Oh, and yes, the Originative cases will also come with the custom box too.
Post by: zslane on Wed, 07 June 2017, 18:56:11
The box looks so nice that it would be great for storing the board when not in use. But it doesn't look like there's enough clearance under the top cover to accommodate keycaps, especially high-profile keycaps like SA or MT3.
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 07 June 2017, 18:59:16
So this might seem like a minor nit, but will I be able to store a NovaTouch with keycaps in that box? For instance, with SA keycaps?
The box looks so nice that it would be great for storing the board when not in use. But it doesn't look like there's enough clearance under the top cover to accommodate keycaps, especially high-profile keycaps like SA or MT3.
I didn't design or test for this scenario, but there is foam up under the lid with some give to it, so it's possible. The box lid will probably just not come down as far on the side of the bottom half of the box.
Post by: nightdriver on Wed, 07 June 2017, 19:23:58
Post by: richard912 on Wed, 07 June 2017, 21:03:05
Post by: consolation on Wed, 07 June 2017, 23:18:46
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I didn't design or test for this scenario, but there is foam up under the lid with some give to it, so it's possible. The box lid will probably just not come down as far on the side of the bottom half of the box.
If it's not too late, maybe have the packaging company add couple strips of styrofoam with double sided tape on one side, that would fit under the short side of the lid. If we want to store a board with keys; they would be attached against the short sides and top of the lid, stopping it coming down all the way and resting on the keys. Or, possibly have four pieces (for the long sides as well;) they don't need to go all the way across to work, short enough to fit inside the case.
Post by: madindehead on Thu, 08 June 2017, 05:21:56
Are there any extras that will go on Originative? Also, I'm assuming this comes with a set of instructions on moving the keyboard into the new case.
Post by: elcubismo on Thu, 08 June 2017, 10:03:18
Post by: afrokobe on Thu, 08 June 2017, 10:04:52
Post by: Bromono on Thu, 08 June 2017, 13:59:15
Post by: poolside on Thu, 08 June 2017, 18:02:18
Moremay seem quaint but i'm a big fan of nice packaging. makes getting something seem more special.
thanks norbauer!Nice box! Will it come with the cases ordered through Originative?
This could be handy to store a keyboard away. The NT stems do not protrude that much from the alu case.
Thanks, guys. I felt the same way and thus figured it was worth a bit of extra wait. I also just thought it would be fun to learn how to design an EVA foam cutout and box like this, which it was. :)
Oh, and yes, the Originative cases will also come with the custom box too.
Great, thanks!
Post by: afrokobe on Thu, 08 June 2017, 20:57:33
Will there be any extras of these by any chance?I suspect there were be extras with oco
Post by: sherryton on Thu, 08 June 2017, 23:29:12
may seem quaint but i'm a big fan of nice packaging. makes getting something seem more special.
thanks norbauer!Nice box! Will it come with the cases ordered through Originative?
This could be handy to store a keyboard away. The NT stems do not protrude that much from the alu case.
Thanks, guys. I felt the same way and thus figured it was worth a bit of extra wait. I also just thought it would be fun to learn how to design an EVA foam cutout and box like this, which it was. :)
Oh, and yes, the Originative cases will also come with the custom box too.
:D
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 14 June 2017, 10:32:36
At any rate, I wanted to offer an update. Boxes are done on the 21st and then make a cross-town journey to the factory, where the cases will be placed into them with the hardware and will be inspected by my agent for any cosmetic defects before being shipped out in the following few days, at which point everyone should get tracking numbers by email. Apologies again for the slight delay, but hopefully you'll all like the little box upgrade I decided to spring for and it will have been worth it. :)
Post by: JDragon on Wed, 14 June 2017, 13:37:28
If we're getting a powder coated case, is it possible to switch colors by any chance?
Post by: elcubismo on Wed, 14 June 2017, 16:30:26
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 15 June 2017, 10:48:26
So hype! Is it going to be shipped by boat? Are we thinking sometime in the 2nd or 3rd week of May?
I assume you meant July, since May is already over. ;)
Assuming so, it should actually be a bit faster than you said, because they're definitely not going by boat (which is painfully slow). The orders will be shipped via express internationally (usually 2-4 days, barring customs delays), and by batched express and then FedEx ground for USA destinations (adds maybe 2-4 days on top of international express). This is my first time using the fulfillment provider, so I don't know exactly what their turnaround time will be, but assuming they're reasonably fast, some people in Asia might see their cases as early as the last week in June. And I would expect most everyone's to have arrived by the middle of next month.
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 15 June 2017, 10:49:33
Thanks for the update!
If we're getting a powder coated case, is it possible to switch colors by any chance?
It is not too late assuming you ordered a powder coated color and want to switch to another powder coating color. The anodizing has been done for a few weeks already, so unfortunately I can't switch anyone to an anodized finish that didn't already order one.
Post by: JDragon on Thu, 15 June 2017, 11:13:44
Thanks for the update!
If we're getting a powder coated case, is it possible to switch colors by any chance?
It is not too late assuming you ordered a powder coated color and want to switch to another powder coating color. The anodizing has been done for a few weeks already, so unfortunately I can't switch anyone to an anodized finish that didn't already order one.
Yep no worries just want to swap out for another powder coated finish. Will PM you :thumb:
Post by: elcubismo on Thu, 15 June 2017, 11:45:04
So hype! Is it going to be shipped by boat? Are we thinking sometime in the 2nd or 3rd week of May?
I assume you meant July, since May is already over. ;)
Assuming so, it should actually be a bit faster than you said, because they're definitely not going by boat (which is painfully slow). The orders will be shipped via express internationally (usually 2-4 days, barring customs delays), and by batched express and then FedEx ground for USA destinations (adds maybe 2-4 days on top of international express). This is my first time using the fulfillment provider, so I don't know exactly what their turnaround time will be, but assuming they're reasonably fast, some people in Asia might see their cases as early as the last week in June. And I would expect most everyone's to have arrived by the middle of next month.
Ahaha, never noticed I wrote May. Yes, I meant July. Thanks!
Post by: zslane on Thu, 15 June 2017, 12:27:41
Thanks for the update!
If we're getting a powder coated case, is it possible to switch colors by any chance?
It is not too late assuming you ordered a powder coated color and want to switch to another powder coating color. The anodizing has been done for a few weeks already, so unfortunately I can't switch anyone to an anodized finish that didn't already order one.
Do the silver cases get an anodizing pass? Or are they "bare aluminum"? Can they be powder-coated after delivery?
I'm not actually asking about these cases in particular; this is more of a general question. Basically I'm wondering if "uncolored" aluminum aftermarket cases can typically be powder-coated after the fact, or do they have some sort of sealing agent covering them that defeats the powder coating process?
Post by: Auk on Thu, 15 June 2017, 13:14:16
If you are going to use a professional powder coating service, they should know what the correct procedure is do it without harming the surface finish. You could also take it to an anodizing service and they should be able to clean it no problem. If you are confident of doing it yourself, there are various methods, but do plenty of research first because you can damage and alter the surface, which may mean not ending up with the finish you hoped for.
Post by: nightdriver on Thu, 15 June 2017, 23:13:22
(http://i.imgur.com/xy6UHdg.jpg)
Post by: richard912 on Fri, 16 June 2017, 00:14:21
got my SA Ashen keycaps installed so i figured i'd take another picture. front one is aluminum, back one is enigma.The Ashen goes so nice with the Enigma. Awesome!!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xy6UHdg.jpg)
Post by: elcubismo on Fri, 16 June 2017, 09:56:34
Post by: jcmsvr on Fri, 16 June 2017, 11:09:54
Post by: eksuen on Fri, 16 June 2017, 11:24:20
Are those both Norb cases? Is it just me or does the front one seem much bigger?
That's just the perspective. The keycap sizes don't change, so if you look at the spacing, you can tell that the cases are the same size.
Post by: Auk on Fri, 16 June 2017, 12:07:18
Does anyone know if this case is compatible with the new coolermaster masterkey s pbts?
Same question was asked earlier in this very thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88759.msg2418029#msg2418029). To repeat Ryan's answer: probably the plate will fit, but you'd almost certainly need to remove the LED indicators.
It will be an interesting project if it can be done :thumb:
Post by: nightdriver on Fri, 16 June 2017, 16:50:22
Are those both Norb cases? Is it just me or does the front one seem much bigger?
i think it's just perspective in the photo. they're the same size.
Post by: gregcake on Sun, 18 June 2017, 13:02:55
Post by: h3xadat on Sun, 18 June 2017, 13:03:51
Round 3 please!
+1
Post by: elcubismo on Mon, 19 June 2017, 11:07:37
Post by: poolside on Mon, 19 June 2017, 14:15:08
Can't believe I never thought to ask, but how tall are these cases? How does it compare to the original plastic case?
The case is about 2.5cm tall. With the riser feet and rubber bumpons installed, the top of the case rises up to about 4.6cm above the desk.
As for the stock NT case: it is about 1.8cm tall at the front and 2.8cm at the back.
Post by: stillzman on Fri, 23 June 2017, 09:29:48
Post by: jimmydosveces on Fri, 23 June 2017, 11:59:34
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Post by: elcubismo on Fri, 23 June 2017, 12:16:54
Will I need to remove keycaps before transferring my board into the new case when it arrives? I just received a new keycap set and am anxious to get them mounted, but will wait if I need to remove them for installation.
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If you aren't going to add lube or silencers, I don't imagine that you will need to take off your caps. I added new caps to my novatouch, silenced, and lubed it in prep for this case. That said, I don't have one yet so what the hell do I know, lol.
Post by: engra on Sat, 24 June 2017, 17:34:48
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Sun, 25 June 2017, 07:20:56
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Post by: TheEerieCold on Sun, 25 June 2017, 17:36:15
Are the boards being shipped directly from the manufacturer?If by boards you mean cases I think he has to place them in the special packaging he had made once they arrive stateside, so I think the answer is no.
Post by: NJDEN on Sun, 25 June 2017, 19:53:24
Are the boards being shipped directly from the manufacturer?If by boards you mean cases I think he has to place them in the special packaging he had made once they arrive stateside, so I think the answer is no.
Hi all. Sorry for being quiet for the past week or so. Being busy with work from the "real world" kept me away from keyboards for the past few days. Alas.
At any rate, I wanted to offer an update. Boxes are done on the 21st and then make a cross-town journey to the factory, where the cases will be placed into them with the hardware and will be inspected by my agent for any cosmetic defects before being shipped out in the following few days, at which point everyone should get tracking numbers by email. Apologies again for the slight delay, but hopefully you'll all like the little box upgrade I decided to spring for and it will have been worth it. :)
Looks like it's going to be direct from factory. I'd expect tracking numbers any day now.
Post by: consolation on Sun, 25 June 2017, 22:08:19
I am using EK Mechlube 2 for Topre - works for me like a charme
Do you notice any difference? Topre is buttery smooth stock, seems like we would be getting into rather diminishing returns... Curious to hear if there's a perceptible difference.
Post by: TheEerieCold on Sun, 25 June 2017, 22:14:04
Are the boards being shipped directly from the manufacturer?If by boards you mean cases I think he has to place them in the special packaging he had made once they arrive stateside, so I think the answer is no.Hi all. Sorry for being quiet for the past week or so. Being busy with work from the "real world" kept me away from keyboards for the past few days. Alas.
At any rate, I wanted to offer an update. Boxes are done on the 21st and then make a cross-town journey to the factory, where the cases will be placed into them with the hardware and will be inspected by my agent for any cosmetic defects before being shipped out in the following few days, at which point everyone should get tracking numbers by email. Apologies again for the slight delay, but hopefully you'll all like the little box upgrade I decided to spring for and it will have been worth it. :)
Looks like it's going to be direct from factory. I'd expect tracking numbers any day now.
Oh my bad, I get lost trying to keep up with news/updates. Thanks for clearing that up. I think the folks who had a powder coated case still fall into this scenario though because that is being done in stateside.
Post by: afrokobe on Sun, 25 June 2017, 22:15:21
lubed and hyperspheres is a million times better than stock novaI am using EK Mechlube 2 for Topre - works for me like a charme
Do you notice any difference? Topre is buttery smooth stock, seems like we would be getting into rather diminishing returns... Curious to hear if there's a perceptible difference.
Post by: richard912 on Sun, 25 June 2017, 23:39:40
EK lube 2 seems to be a mix. Wondering if Krytox 106 would suffice since I have it on handlubed and hyperspheres is a million times better than stock novaI am using EK Mechlube 2 for Topre - works for me like a charme
Do you notice any difference? Topre is buttery smooth stock, seems like we would be getting into rather diminishing returns... Curious to hear if there's a perceptible difference.
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Mon, 26 June 2017, 10:44:00
Hi all. Sorry for being quiet for the past week or so. Being busy with work from the "real world" kept me away from keyboards for the past few days. Alas.Hi norbauer, just curious how much extra time you think the powder coating for the Retro Refrigerator / Enigma Black / Space Station White colors adds to the process? I think you'd mentioned it somewhere previously in the thread but I'm forgetting.
At any rate, I wanted to offer an update. Boxes are done on the 21st and then make a cross-town journey to the factory, where the cases will be placed into them with the hardware and will be inspected by my agent for any cosmetic defects before being shipped out in the following few days, at which point everyone should get tracking numbers by email. Apologies again for the slight delay, but hopefully you'll all like the little box upgrade I decided to spring for and it will have been worth it. :)
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 26 June 2017, 11:39:37
I'll answer several of the questions answered above below, but firstly, I wanted to provide an update. The packaging (which is was the last component holding other stuff up) is finished now and at the office of my colleagues in Shenzhen (not the factory, but the inspection/fulfillment folks). The aluminum cases are being inspected at the factory today and then are going over to the fulfillment guys for final kitting with the parts (screws, bumpons, etc.) and boxing. Then the cases should start shipping. I'm *hoping* that this might mean people get their ship notifications as early as this week, but everything always takes longer than people promise so I'll pessimistically assume next week is more likely.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/Keyboard%20package-1.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/Keyboard%20package-2.jpg)
Hi norbauer, just curious how much extra time you think the powder coating for the Retro Refrigerator / Enigma Black / Space Station White colors adds to the process? I think you'd mentioned it somewhere previously in the thread but I'm forgetting.
The powder coating shop says "2 weeks," but based on my last experience (as mentioned in the GB page), this led me to estimate "about a month." The shop does amazing work, but breakneck speed is not their specialty. =\
Will I need to remove keycaps before transferring my board into the new case when it arrives? I just received a new keycap set and am anxious to get them mounted, but will wait if I need to remove them for installation.
You should be able to swap a plate with keys installed just as easily as without, so go for it. :)
Are the boards being shipped directly from the manufacturer?
They go from the manufacturer to my inspection/fulfillment guys. For international orders, they ship Express directly to customers. For US customers, they come Express to California first as a batch and then are immediately turned around and shipped via FedExGround. The exception is the powder coated cases. I pick those up in California, drive them over to the powder place, and then will ship them to customers directly once the powder is done.
Round 3 please!
+1
I promised myself I wouldn't, but then a million people emailed me to ask, so now I'm thinking about it. :) Let me see how this whole third-party fulfillment thing goes and I'll make a determination in a couple of weeks. If it really goes as smoothly as it's supposed to, doing follow-up orders like this isn't nearly as burdensome as r1 was for me in terms of time and work, so I'm open to it if it helps keep folks from feeling like they missed out.
Do the silver cases get an anodizing pass? Or are they "bare aluminum"? Can they be powder-coated after delivery?
I'm not actually asking about these cases in particular; this is more of a general question. Basically I'm wondering if "uncolored" aluminum aftermarket cases can typically be powder-coated after the fact, or do they have some sort of sealing agent covering them that defeats the powder coating process?
The silver cases are indeed anodized. It makes the surface scratch-resistant (or more scratch-resistant than bare aluminum anyway).
Yes, you can absolutely powder coat anodized cases but you have to remove the oxide layer first, typically with bead blasting. I actually did this to salvage a couple of cases last round where the anodized got messed up.
Post by: h3xadat on Mon, 26 June 2017, 12:10:04
Round 3 please!
+1
I promised myself I wouldn't, but then a million people emailed me to ask, so now I'm thinking about it. :) Let me see how this whole third-party fulfillment thing goes and I'll make a determination in a couple of weeks. If it really goes as smoothly as it's supposed to, doing follow-up orders like this isn't nearly as burdensome as r1 was for me in terms of time and work, so I'm open to it if it helps keep folks from feeling like they missed out.
Great News! :thumb:
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Mon, 26 June 2017, 15:34:23
Hi norbauer, just curious how much extra time you think the powder coating for the Retro Refrigerator / Enigma Black / Space Station White colors adds to the process? I think you'd mentioned it somewhere previously in the thread but I'm forgetting.
The powder coating shop says "2 weeks," but based on my last experience (as mentioned in the GB page), this led me to estimate "about a month." The shop does amazing work, but breakneck speed is not their specialty. =\
Sounds fine to me, much rather they take a while and do it right than hurry through the process! Thanks for the comprehensive update :thumb:
Post by: autobot on Mon, 26 June 2017, 15:51:01
I promised myself I wouldn't, but then a million people emailed me to ask, so now I'm thinking about it. :)
If you do decide to go for R3, you NEED to do the Apple Space Gray and annode finish/texture to match the new iMac Pro! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
I'm seriously considering the regular silver iMac because there isn't a Norbauer case available in space gray, LOL! :eek:
I might be in the minority using a mac, but hey, it's at least worth throwing that out there. :p
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 26 June 2017, 16:12:10
I promised myself I wouldn't, but then a million people emailed me to ask, so now I'm thinking about it. :)
If you do decide to go for R3, you NEED to do the Apple Space Gray and annode finish/texture to match the new iMac Pro! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
I'm seriously considering the regular silver iMac because there isn't a Norbauer case available in space gray, LOL! :eek:
I might be in the minority using a mac, but hey, it's at least worth throwing that out there. :p
Ha. You know, I was just in the Apple Store the other day and had the exact same thought. It'll be tough to match it exactly, but we could probably get in the neighborhood.
Post by: poolside on Mon, 26 June 2017, 16:41:25
Hi guys! For some reason GeekHack stopped sending me email notifications for this thread so I didn't see the past several posts until now. Sorry about the slow reply as a result.
I'll answer several of the questions answered above below, but firstly, I wanted to provide an update. The packaging (which is was the last component holding other stuff up) is finished now and at the office of my colleagues in Shenzhen (not the factory, but the inspection/fulfillment folks). The aluminum cases are being inspected at the factory today and then are going over to the fulfillment guys for final kitting with the parts (screws, bumpons, etc.) and boxing. Then the cases should start shipping. I'm *hoping* that this might mean people get their ship notifications as early as this week, but everything always takes longer than people promise so I'll pessimistically assume next week is more likely.Show Image(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/Keyboard%20package-1.jpg)Show Image(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/Keyboard%20package-2.jpg)
Thanks for the update!
That's a nice Norbauer logo I see here on the bottom part of the case. Much better than the sticker from the previous round. Is that lasered on the aluminum surface?
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 26 June 2017, 17:38:00
Hi guys! For some reason GeekHack stopped sending me email notifications for this thread so I didn't see the past several posts until now. Sorry about the slow reply as a result.
I'll answer several of the questions answered above below, but firstly, I wanted to provide an update. The packaging (which is was the last component holding other stuff up) is finished now and at the office of my colleagues in Shenzhen (not the factory, but the inspection/fulfillment folks). The aluminum cases are being inspected at the factory today and then are going over to the fulfillment guys for final kitting with the parts (screws, bumpons, etc.) and boxing. Then the cases should start shipping. I'm *hoping* that this might mean people get their ship notifications as early as this week, but everything always takes longer than people promise so I'll pessimistically assume next week is more likely.Show Image(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/Keyboard%20package-1.jpg)Show Image(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/Keyboard%20package-2.jpg)
Thanks for the update!
That's a nice Norbauer logo I see here on the bottom part of the case. Much better than the sticker from the previous round. Is that lasered on the aluminum surface?
So it is.
Pwpw.
(http://discuss.fleetworkshop.org/uploads/db1714/optimized/2X/8/84bc3ecc288aafd391901bc72bbbdc1126d7b3fb_1_612x500.gif)
Post by: nightdriver on Mon, 26 June 2017, 20:31:51
Post by: autobot on Tue, 27 June 2017, 09:12:07
Ha. You know, I was just in the Apple Store the other day and had the exact same thought. It'll be tough to match it exactly, but we could probably get in the neighborhood.
Nice, yeah, matching finishes is always tough. Thankfully, in the case of a keyboard next to an iMac, the keyboard has some distance away from the iMac bezel & base, and the main surface is horizontal, versus the vertical main surface of the iMac. In use, the user looks at the monitor and not so much at the keyboard.
"In the neighborhood" should be close enough for this type of finish matching scenario. :thumb:
Space Gray Norbauer board would look stealthy with Black on Dark Grey Keycaps ;)
Post by: elcubismo on Tue, 27 June 2017, 09:43:33
Post by: navy2x on Tue, 27 June 2017, 18:54:35
Post by: TheEerieCold on Tue, 27 June 2017, 23:28:45
Hey norbauer, any idea how well the retro refrigerator color would match the cyan color from GMK (color code TU2)? My favorite keyset is hyperfuse and it would be awesome if they worked well together. I have an enigma black already ordered because I'm a scaredy cat to change it.I was in the same boat trying to match as close to SP's ABS BFQ color. He said it best matches Pantone 325C, which looks about as close to GMK TU2 as you can get from GMK colors. Obviously lighting conditions and other factors will change how it looks in person but I think it matches both of those color codes very well.
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:03:13
As promised, I hired a third party inspector to come in on Monday and verify that all of the cases were made to spec. All of them looked good in general, but I outlined pretty rigorous inspection standards, so the inspector rejected a decent number of them based on small cosmetic blemishes in the anodizing finish. The factory has already started a rush job to re-make these cases, and they estimate this work will be completed in...roughly 10 days. :( Unfortunately, because of the weird way of the fulfillment warehouse charges for its services I can't really afford to ship in two batches, so this means a delay of 10 days or so for all of us in the meantime.
The exception to this is the powder coated cases. I'm taking the extra expense of having those shipped to me now direct from the factory so work can begin on those here in California as early as next week.
For whatever it's worth, the factory is extremely sorry for these problems and wanted me to extend their apologies with you all for the delay. Honestly, I'm a little frustrated that they didn't catch these issues earlier (all of which were caused by their anodizing vendor), during the period when we were waiting for the boxes to be finished and the cases were just sitting there. But I guess what's done is done, and I didn't want to raise too much of a fuss because they are being very accommodating to get these issues fixed ASAP.
Please just let me add, however, that I'm personally truly sorry for (and, frankly, slightly mortified about) this delay, and I hope you guys will stick with me just a bit longer while I ensure that the cases you get are of the highest possible quality, which at least will now arrive in nice upgraded custom packaging and with the confidence that they've been checked over very thoroughly and any issues directly addressed.
If you have any questions or concerns, of course just post here or feel free to email me directly.
Post by: beamingrobot on Wed, 28 June 2017, 10:26:08
Post by: elcubismo on Wed, 28 June 2017, 11:41:29
Hi guys. It is with some pain that I must report a slight delay to the r2 shipment, albeit in the name of quality.
As promised, I hired a third party inspector to come in on Monday and verify that all of the cases were made to spec. All of them looked good in general, but I outlined pretty rigorous inspection standards, so the inspector rejected a decent number of them based on small cosmetic blemishes in the anodizing finish. The factory has already started a rush job to re-make these cases, and they estimate this work will be completed in...roughly 10 days. :( Unfortunately, because of the weird way of the fulfillment warehouse charges for its services I can't really afford to ship in two batches, so this means a delay of 10 days or so for all of us in the meantime.
The exception to this is the powder coated cases. I'm taking the extra expense of having those shipped to me now direct from the factory so work can begin on those here in California as early as next week.
For whatever it's worth, the factory is extremely sorry for these problems and wanted me to extend their apologies with you all for the delay. Honestly, I'm a little frustrated that they didn't catch these issues earlier (all of which were caused by their anodizing vendor), during the period when we were waiting for the boxes to be finished and the cases were just sitting there. But I guess what's done is done, and I didn't want to raise too much of a fuss because they are being very accommodating to get these issues fixed ASAP.
Please just let me add, however, that I'm personally truly sorry for (and, frankly, slightly mortified about) this delay, and I hope you guys will stick with me just a bit longer while I ensure that the cases you get are of the highest possible quality, which at least will now arrive in nice upgraded custom packaging and with the confidence that they've been checked over very thoroughly and any issues directly addressed.
If you have any questions or concerns, of course just post here or feel free to email me directly.
Thanks for the update, and even more so for your commitment to quality! While this is definitely a shame, it was entirely out of your control at that point, so don't beat yourself up too much about it.
Post by: zslane on Wed, 28 June 2017, 12:29:48
There's only so much you can control when you are trying to get the best anodizing work done for the most reasonable cost. That tricky trade-off is frequently going to lead to these kinds of failures. But I think we all understand the economic dynamics involved and I, for one, will gladly wait a little longer to have it done right. The opportunity to pay twice as much for a more reliable anodizing vendor is long past, and I'm not any of us would have wanted to pay that premium anyway. A little extra wait is worth it, all things considered.
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 28 June 2017, 12:51:47
Agreed.
There's only so much you can control when you are trying to get the best anodizing work done for the most reasonable cost. That tricky trade-off is frequently going to lead to these kinds of failures. But I think we all understand the economic dynamics involved and I, for one, will gladly wait a little longer to have it done right. The opportunity to pay twice as much for a more reliable anodizing vendor is long past, and I'm not any of us would have wanted to pay that premium anyway. A little extra wait is worth it, all things considered.
Oh man, that's so true! I actually said the same thing to the CNC factory yesterday: I wish we could just pay more to an anodizing vendor to get someone who can work fast and commit to delivering 100% of the products back without any flaws. I get that anodizing is a tricky process to control, but if something comes out of the tank bad, they should just redo it then and there rather than delivering it as if it were fine. When so many industries focus obsessively (in my opinion) on the race to the bottom in terms of cost, it sometimes gets hard to even be able to throw money at people to get them to do something to a higher standard. =\
Also, FWIW, this isn't a China issue; I had the exact same issue (actually, much more severe cosmetic blemishes) with anodizing shops in the US back when I was doing R&D for r1—as some of you will remember. The issues here are pretty tiny irregularities and only affect a minority of the units, but I still wanted to make sure that they were fixed. Apparently anodizing shops are tough to work with, no matter what side of the globe you're on. :) I know the CNC factory is pretty frustrated right now, because they know this problem makes them look bad (to all of us), but other than not catching the problems earlier, it's largely out of their hands.
The cases were all prepped today and are ready to go out to a new anodizing vendor they have found (based on a recommendation of a colleague), which hopefully will be better.
The cases for powder coating are also being sent over to today to be kitted and boxed for shipment to California ASAP.
Post by: bekkra on Wed, 28 June 2017, 12:52:08
Of what I have read from you, you are a top notch group buy organizer, and I wish that you will be fully content with r2.
I am grateful for you taking care of so many aspects in so great detail of our luxury gadgets.... you are doing a fantastic work.
Thanks a lot for the update.
Post by: Auk on Wed, 28 June 2017, 13:07:20
...a delay of 10 days or so...
Ten days delay is just so trivial for a group buy product like this. I'd very contentedly wait an extra month or two and ensure high quality than lose $$$s on a defective product. I'm happy that you're making sure everything is right before delivering :thumb:
Post by: numerus on Wed, 28 June 2017, 13:42:59
Best regards from Germany
Post by: zslane on Wed, 28 June 2017, 13:53:15
Post by: robotsokk on Wed, 28 June 2017, 14:14:39
Post by: richard912 on Wed, 28 June 2017, 19:42:02
Hi guys. It is with some pain that I must report a slight delay to the r2 shipment, albeit in the name of quality.Thanks for the update. Don't feel bad, not your fault. Don't mind the longer wait so long as the quality of the final product is top notched!
As promised, I hired a third party inspector to come in on Monday and verify that all of the cases were made to spec. All of them looked good in general, but I outlined pretty rigorous inspection standards, so the inspector rejected a decent number of them based on small cosmetic blemishes in the anodizing finish. The factory has already started a rush job to re-make these cases, and they estimate this work will be completed in...roughly 10 days. :( Unfortunately, because of the weird way of the fulfillment warehouse charges for its services I can't really afford to ship in two batches, so this means a delay of 10 days or so for all of us in the meantime.
The exception to this is the powder coated cases. I'm taking the extra expense of having those shipped to me now direct from the factory so work can begin on those here in California as early as next week.
For whatever it's worth, the factory is extremely sorry for these problems and wanted me to extend their apologies with you all for the delay. Honestly, I'm a little frustrated that they didn't catch these issues earlier (all of which were caused by their anodizing vendor), during the period when we were waiting for the boxes to be finished and the cases were just sitting there. But I guess what's done is done, and I didn't want to raise too much of a fuss because they are being very accommodating to get these issues fixed ASAP.
Please just let me add, however, that I'm personally truly sorry for (and, frankly, slightly mortified about) this delay, and I hope you guys will stick with me just a bit longer while I ensure that the cases you get are of the highest possible quality, which at least will now arrive in nice upgraded custom packaging and with the confidence that they've been checked over very thoroughly and any issues directly addressed.
If you have any questions or concerns, of course just post here or feel free to email me directly.
Post by: autobot on Wed, 28 June 2017, 19:44:58
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 28 June 2017, 20:22:58
I'll keep nudging them along to get these turned around as fast as possible, but I agree with everyone that top quality is the most important concern. These types of projects aren't worth doing if it's not to get something uniquely well made and beautiful. For me, that's the fun and rewarding part.
As always, I'll post any news as soon as I have it.
Post by: robotsokk on Wed, 28 June 2017, 20:56:58
These types of projects aren't worth doing if it's not to get something uniquely well made and beautiful. For me, that's the fun and rewarding part.
Hear, hear!
Post by: atectatifern on Thu, 29 June 2017, 18:57:11
Post by: richard912 on Thu, 29 June 2017, 22:07:57
Thanks for your understanding, everyone! I really, truly appreciate it. I know I've personally waited for GH group buys that shipped literally years after I sent payment, without a word—and some not at all. So I've always promised myself that when and if I ever ran my own, I would make sure people had a better experience. I'm glad at least you feel I'm living up to that aspiration, even with this relatively short delay. :)The most important thing when running a GB, is to keep the participants updated. I've noticed some will crawl under a rock leaving participants in with a high level of anxiety from lack of updates. So, I always appreciate updates, good or bad. With the latter, work arounds/solutions/resolutions....helps to keep some semblance of calm to us buyers. Keep up the good work!!
I'll keep nudging them along to get these turned around as fast as possible, but I agree with everyone that top quality is the most important concern. These types of projects aren't worth doing if it's not to get something uniquely well made and beautiful. For me, that's the fun and rewarding part.
As always, I'll post any news as soon as I have it.
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 03 July 2017, 20:07:13
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/CM02-UNANODIZED%20ready%20for%20shipment.jpg)
In the meantime, the re-work on the anodized cases continues.
Post by: robotsokk on Mon, 03 July 2017, 20:10:47
Post by: madindehead on Tue, 04 July 2017, 05:44:06
Thanks for all your hard work on this. It is really appreciated :)
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Thu, 06 July 2017, 15:00:32
And even though I only just recently read them all, I really value all those regular updates you've posted throughout it all. The extent you went to for us is a gesture that's worth quite a lot! :thumb:
Post by: losthumans on Thu, 06 July 2017, 16:47:15
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 06 July 2017, 17:00:36
Does anyone know how much longer the Originative orders will take to ship? (Just curious no rush). Thanks!
Compared to the orders through my shop? Only just a few days longer, I'd imagine.
Post by: losthumans on Fri, 07 July 2017, 16:55:46
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 07 July 2017, 19:20:05
For your edification, here is a random photo of a pile of riser feet ready for powder coating that I took today:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/riser%20feet.jpg)
:)
The boxes also both look really nice and provide some critical protection for the cases during shipping, as I noticed a few of the corners got a little bumped during transit but the cases themselves remained pristine and unharmed. Totally worth the investment.
Post by: robotsokk on Fri, 07 July 2017, 22:58:36
Post by: child on Mon, 17 July 2017, 14:45:44
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 17 July 2017, 15:10:03
Any news about re-anodized cases?
I actually just got an update an hour or so ago. It is what I would describe as good to medium-good news. The good part is that they seemed to have finally found a shop that is nailing the anodizing, both the colors and without cosmetic defects, but they medium part is that they anticipate another week or so before it's all done. No big deal, I suppose, in the grand scheme, but I know you guys would both love to have this project shipped, just as I would love to have it over so I can move on to other ones. :) I had actually forgotten that these have to be re-engraved with the laser again after being re-anodized, which takes a few days, and hadn't factored that into the updated timeline.
For whatever it's worth, one of my concerns from the QC check was that the "galactic blue" cases weren't all perfectly color-matched. I'm happy to report that the new anodizing shop the machine shop is working with seems to have nailed it. In the photo below, you'll see the prototype case that I used in the product shots on my site, along with one of the shop's test pieces from the batch you guys who ordered that color will all be getting.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/anodizing-color-test.png)
This was taken just this morning. (Note that this is under bright inspection lights, and the blue cases under normal lighting look notably darker.)
Please don't hesitate to post here or email me with any questions! Thanks everyone for your continued patience and, as always. <3
Post by: dgneo on Mon, 17 July 2017, 15:16:11
Stellar work here as always Norb!
Post by: afrokobe on Mon, 17 July 2017, 15:16:34
Post by: poolside on Mon, 17 July 2017, 17:09:19
It is what I would describe as good to medium-good news.
Thanks for the update.
This is all good to me. I personally don't mind waiting a little longer to get defect-free stuff.
Post by: TheEerieCold on Mon, 17 July 2017, 19:07:39
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 17 July 2017, 19:19:59
Are the powder coated cases still looking good for the 8/1 ship date? That galactic blue looks awesome btw.
I would imagine so. I'll go casually drop by the shop later this week with another job I have just to subtly try to feel them out and confirm that we're on track. :)
Post by: bciamny on Mon, 17 July 2017, 19:48:43
what i thought when i heard casually dropping by. please casually whistle too.
Post by: Dysnomia on Wed, 19 July 2017, 21:07:36
Post by: elcubismo on Thu, 20 July 2017, 14:18:23
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 20 July 2017, 15:04:29
I know that I'm being impatient by asking, but any updates on the defective cases?
Not at all; I was just about to provide an update actually. I'm told that the anodizing is now done (yay!) and that the laser (re-)engraving will happen early next week, meaning (theoretically, fingers-crossed, breath-held) that the cases should head off for fulfillment at some point in the second half of next week. If for some reason on the final inspection there are any other few cases that have defects after this process (I certainly hope not), I'll ship the rest immediately and get the others fixed on a case-by-case basis—no pun intended—as I don't want to wait any longer to get these out.
In other news, I stopped by the powder coating shop yesterday. In their typically un-rushed fashion, they informed me that the cases are being bead-blasted now (just to make sure there is no residue) and are will ready for powder coating "in the next week or so." I told them I really want to get them out the week of the 25th and they said that shouldn't be a problem.
For your viewing pleasure, here are some pics of the anodizing of the Galactic Blue cases:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/anodizing-1.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/anodizing-2.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/anodizing-3.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/anodizing-4.png)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/anodizing-5.png)
And here is one of the brushed cases (looks so f'ing awesome IMO)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/anodizing-brushed.png)
Post by: bciamny on Thu, 20 July 2017, 15:23:50
Post by: elcubismo on Thu, 20 July 2017, 15:53:45
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 20 July 2017, 21:01:50
I know that I'm being impatient by asking, but any updates on the defective cases?
Not at all; I was just about to provide an update actually. I'm told that the anodizing is now done (yay!) and that the laser (re-)engraving will happen early next week, meaning (theoretically, fingers-crossed, breath-held) that the cases should head off for fulfillment at some point in the second half of next week. If for some reason on the final inspection there are any other few cases that have defects after this process (I certainly hope not), I'll ship the rest immediately and get the others fixed on a case-by-case basis—no pun intended—as I don't want to wait any longer to get these out.
In other news, I stopped by the powder coating shop yesterday. In their typically un-rushed fashion, they informed me that the cases are being bead-blasted now (just to make sure there is no residue) and are will ready for powder coating "in the next week or so." I told them I really want to get them out the week of the 25th and they said that shouldn't be a problem.
For your viewing pleasure, here are some pics of the anodizing of the Galactic Blue cases:Show Image(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/anodizing-1.png)Show Image(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/anodizing-2.png)Show Image(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/anodizing-3.png)Show Image(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/anodizing-4.png)Show Image(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/anodizing-5.png)
And here is one of the brushed cases (looks so f'ing awesome IMO)Show Image(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/anodizing-brushed.png)
Wow, these are incredible. Great job mate, I can't wait to get mine.
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 22 July 2017, 17:13:25
I've been a little spooked by some of the cases having anodizing issues that had to be re-worked here in r2, so I'm now feeling a bit reticent about using a fulfillment company (which would mean that I won't be able to personally inspect each one). With the understanding that this wouldn't cost anyone any extra money (other than me), how do you guys feel about my doing again what I did in round 1: shipping the cases to me first and then I'll ship them directly to participants? I don't expect any problems after things have been so thoroughly checked over now, but I just want to be extra cautious by personally inspecting each one myself.
I know I'm being a little obsessive. But it just keeps me up at night worrying about people getting cases with my name on them that have something wrong with them. :S I just really want everyone to be happy with what they get and I'll feel better if I get to lay my hands on each one before it goes out.
So here's what that would look like. The cases are still set to ship from the factory this week. I'll be out of town the following week at the big Star Trek convention in Vegas, so that means all cases (both domestic and international) would ship to GB participants from California as soon as I get back, the week of August 7th. Given that it would take some time to get everything processed and sorted into the fulfillment company's system anyway, I don't think this would constitute a major delay relative to what we already had planned. As you guys hopefully noticed last time, I know my way around a tape gun and label printer like the best of 'em and am thus a pretty fast shipper. ;)
Thoughts?
Post by: robotsokk on Sat, 22 July 2017, 17:20:29
Post by: engra on Sat, 22 July 2017, 17:28:42
Post by: neon_tom on Sat, 22 July 2017, 17:52:15
Post by: TheEerieCold on Sat, 22 July 2017, 17:55:08
Post by: cynviloq on Sat, 22 July 2017, 18:29:18
Thanks, guys. So, I wanted to run an idea by you all.
I've been a little spooked by some of the cases having anodizing issues that had to be re-worked here in r2, so I'm now feeling a bit reticent about using a fulfillment company (which would mean that I won't be able to personally inspect each one). With the understanding that this wouldn't cost anyone any extra money (other than me), how do you guys feel about my doing again what I did in round 1: shipping the cases to me first and then I'll ship them directly to participants? I don't expect any problems after things have been so thoroughly checked over now, but I just want to be extra cautious by personally inspecting each one myself.
I know I'm being a little obsessive. But it just keeps me up at night worrying about people getting cases with my name on them that have something wrong with them. :S I just really want everyone to be happy with what they get and I'll feel better if I get to lay my hands on each one before it goes out.
So here's what that would look like. The cases are still set to ship from the factory this week. I'll be out of town the following week at the big Star Trek convention in Vegas, so that means all cases (both domestic and international) would ship to GB participants from California as soon as I get back, the week of August 7th. Given that it would take some time to get everything processed and sorted into the fulfillment company's system anyway, I don't think this would constitute a major delay relative to what we already had planned. As you guys hopefully noticed last time, I know my way around a tape gun and label printer like the best of 'em and am thus a pretty fast shipper. ;)
Thoughts?
I would never turn down a QC check by yourself... I don't mind waiting at all as long as it does not delay the RF87 cases ;D
Post by: zslane on Sat, 22 July 2017, 20:03:53
Post by: losthumans on Sat, 22 July 2017, 20:51:51
Thanks, guys. So, I wanted to run an idea by you all.
I've been a little spooked by some of the cases having anodizing issues that had to be re-worked here in r2, so I'm now feeling a bit reticent about using a fulfillment company (which would mean that I won't be able to personally inspect each one). With the understanding that this wouldn't cost anyone any extra money (other than me), how do you guys feel about my doing again what I did in round 1: shipping the cases to me first and then I'll ship them directly to participants? I don't expect any problems after things have been so thoroughly checked over now, but I just want to be extra cautious by personally inspecting each one myself.
I know I'm being a little obsessive. But it just keeps me up at night worrying about people getting cases with my name on them that have something wrong with them. :S I just really want everyone to be happy with what they get and I'll feel better if I get to lay my hands on each one before it goes out.
So here's what that would look like. The cases are still set to ship from the factory this week. I'll be out of town the following week at the big Star Trek convention in Vegas, so that means all cases (both domestic and international) would ship to GB participants from California as soon as I get back, the week of August 7th. Given that it would take some time to get everything processed and sorted into the fulfillment company's system anyway, I don't think this would constitute a major delay relative to what we already had planned. As you guys hopefully noticed last time, I know my way around a tape gun and label printer like the best of 'em and am thus a pretty fast shipper. ;)
Thoughts?
All for it thank you for your attention to detail! Do you know what impact this would have on the orders placed through Originative? Not really sure how that whole process will work, would have ordered directly through you however I needed the Novatouch package.
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 22 July 2017, 21:07:52
Regarding Originative orders, those were always going straight to the Originative office for fulfillment in LA, and that plan won't change. I'm sure they'll have a close look over theirs before they ship them out as well.
Post by: losthumans on Sat, 22 July 2017, 21:32:00
Thanks, guys! I'm still confirming some final logistical details, but I think this sound like a good plan then. It means my living room will be covered in bubble wrap and boxes again for a week when I get back from the convention, but that's actually sort of fun. :)
Regarding Originative orders, those were always going straight to the Originative office for fulfillment in LA, and that plan won't change. I'm sure they'll have a close look over theirs before they ship them out as well.
Ok thank you sounds good!
Post by: eldonw on Sat, 22 July 2017, 22:18:42
I wish I could buy all my keyboard stuff from you :))
Post by: elcubismo on Sat, 22 July 2017, 23:00:05
Post by: codywanks on Sun, 23 July 2017, 16:13:03
As you guys hopefully noticed last time, I know my way around a tape gun and label printer like the best of 'em and am thus a pretty fast shipper. ;)
Can attest to that
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Mon, 24 July 2017, 06:09:34
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 24 July 2017, 09:58:31
I might be horribly mistaken but I can't find an estimated shipping date, is there any date set already?
No worries. It's a long thread, with some twists and turns. These are slated to ship the week of August 7th. I would be sooner than that but I'm going to be in Las Vegas for a Star Trek convention the week of 31 July. :rolleyes:
Post by: HighNoon on Mon, 24 July 2017, 10:48:08
Post by: elcubismo on Mon, 24 July 2017, 11:09:08
I might be horribly mistaken but I can't find an estimated shipping date, is there any date set already?
No worries. It's a long thread, with some twists and turns. These are slated to ship the week of August 7th. I would be sooner than that but I'm going to be in Las Vegas for a Star Trek convention the week of 31 July. :rolleyes:
Are you showing off your galaxy class keyset? :P
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Mon, 24 July 2017, 11:34:09
Thank you for the information :)I might be horribly mistaken but I can't find an estimated shipping date, is there any date set already?
No worries. It's a long thread, with some twists and turns. These are slated to ship the week of August 7th. I would be sooner than that but I'm going to be in Las Vegas for a Star Trek convention the week of 31 July. :rolleyes:
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 01 August 2017, 10:10:57
I might be horribly mistaken but I can't find an estimated shipping date, is there any date set already?
No worries. It's a long thread, with some twists and turns. These are slated to ship the week of August 7th. I would be sooner than that but I'm going to be in Las Vegas for a Star Trek convention the week of 31 July. :rolleyes:
Are you showing off your galaxy class keyset? :P
I think they may actually have one of the samples out, yes. :) I also saw pics of the artisan sample yesterday, and it looks fantastic. More updates on that in the Galaxy Class thread shortly—as soon as I have one in my hands.
I'm headed off for Vegas today for the convention. Meantime, the re-worked cases are finally done (!) and everything is being assembled and boxed—supposed to ship to me this week, to arrive right around when I return next week. I've already got a big pile of assembled boxes and bubble wrap sitting in my living room, ready to hit the ground running. (In case they arrive early, no worries, there will still be somebody here to receive them.)
Post by: zslane on Tue, 01 August 2017, 11:53:04
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 01 August 2017, 11:53:57
What's the status of the powder-coated cases?
I expect to ship them all together at the same time (i.e., next week).
Post by: zslane on Tue, 01 August 2017, 12:16:31
Post by: Longlong14 on Thu, 03 August 2017, 09:28:30
Post by: Our_Benefactors on Thu, 03 August 2017, 17:32:55
I missed it again!!!! Any chance there's one more black I can give you money for?
Check the classifieds here and on /r/mechmarket after they've shipped. Chances are, some people will want to sell.
Post by: TheEerieCold on Mon, 07 August 2017, 16:33:53
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 07 August 2017, 16:45:45
The week has finally arrived. Lets hope everything goes according to plan! :cool:
Thanks, guys! I am indeed back (arrived very late last night and am still caffeinating myself back into consciousness) and will be spending today doing some more prep work of the packing materials. Last I heard, the cases left the inspection/packing place last week and are on their way to me. I was hoping for them to arrive today or tomorrow, but who knows with DHL and customs (last time the cases languished in customs delays for several days). I've sent a request for the DHL tracking number and should know more specifics in the next 24 hrs. The good news is that the feedback from the inspection people was positive, so it looks like the initial production issues were ironed out in the re-work.
I'm also cajoling the powder-coating people. They were supposed to get the cases to me last week and didn't, so I'll follow up this afternoon. I really want to inspect and ship all these together this week so I can do a single UPS pickup; hopefully the timing will work out.
Thanks again everyone for your patience.
Post by: losthumans on Mon, 07 August 2017, 17:55:01
Thanks for all the updates!The week has finally arrived. Lets hope everything goes according to plan! :cool:
Thanks, guys! I am indeed back (arrived very late last night and am still caffeinating myself back into consciousness) and will be spending today doing some more prep work of the packing materials. Last I heard, the cases left the inspection/packing place last week and are on their way to me. I was hoping for them to arrive today or tomorrow, but who knows with DHL and customs (last time the cases languished in customs delays for several days). I've sent a request for the DHL tracking number and should know more specifics in the next 24 hrs. The good news is that the feedback from the inspection people was positive, so it looks like the initial production issues were ironed out in the re-work.
I'm also cajoling the powder-coating people. They were supposed to get the cases to me last week and didn't, so I'll follow up this afternoon. I really want to inspect and ship all these together this week so I can do a single UPS pickup; hopefully the timing will work out.
Thanks again everyone for your patience.
Post by: ryanvs on Tue, 08 August 2017, 09:43:42
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 08 August 2017, 10:27:13
Long shot, but any chance you'll have any spares?
I won't have any spares from r2, I don't think. However, now that the machine shop has finally found a reliable anodizing vendor, I'll probably do another quick "mini group buy" right after the r2 cases ship for any people who still wanted a case, which should have a much faster turnaround than r2. I keep swearing it's the last run, but then a bunch of people email me asking me to do another. :rolleyes: But I want to get these r2 cases all shipped before starting an r3.
Incidentally, I have some video from the kitting and packing process for anyone who is curious, which was shot just the other day. It's not exactly the most action-packed material, but for some reason I love watching pretty much any kind of manufacturing and assembly, so I figured I'd share. :)
Post by: ipreferpie on Tue, 08 August 2017, 10:39:16
Post by: elcubismo on Tue, 08 August 2017, 12:31:42
It's not exactly the most action-packed material, but for some reason I love watching pretty much any kind of manufacturing and assembly
Same here, it probably goes back to my younger days of watching Mr. Roger's Neighborhood
Post by: ryanvs on Tue, 08 August 2017, 12:46:15
I hope this isn't out of line, I apologize if it is and I'm happy to remove it.
While I wait for R2 (R3?) of these cases, if anyone would like to sell their original stock CM QFR case please let me know. I bought a used QFR, but the top case is in really bad shape and is not useable without damaging keycaps. I'd use it bare, but I want to protect my new FrostyFlake controller. Thanks.
Post by: Will_26 on Tue, 08 August 2017, 14:15:56
Post by: consolation on Tue, 08 August 2017, 18:44:27
Quote from: norbauer
... I'll probably do another quick "mini group buy" right after the r2...
Quick question, do you plan to do powder coated cases in R2.5?
Post by: TheEerieCold on Tue, 08 August 2017, 19:47:47
Post by: robotsokk on Tue, 08 August 2017, 21:40:10
Incidentally, I have some video from the kitting and packing process for anyone who is curious, which was shot just the other day. It's not exactly the most action-packed material, but for some reason I love watching pretty much any kind of manufacturing and assembly, so I figured I'd share. :)More
That box... *__* So very nice. I'm definitely going to be taking lots of unboxing pics...
Post by: pvd on Tue, 08 August 2017, 21:52:46
I'd consider joining R3 for a second case, but I don't have a second novatouch :p
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 08 August 2017, 21:56:38
Has anyone tried putting a CM masterkeys inside the case?
I'd consider joining R3 for a second case, but I don't have a second novatouch :p
It definitely fits the Masterkeys Pro S. I haven't tried it with the non-Pro Masterkeys S, but at the very least you'd have to remove the 3 LEDs above the arrow keys for that one.
It also fits the Rapid-i.
Post by: codywanks on Wed, 09 August 2017, 02:39:14
I bought a used QFR, but the top case is in really bad shape and is not useable without damaging keycaps. I'd use it bare, but I want to protect my new FrostyFlake controller
just checking - you are aware this case won't fit the QFR, right?
It definitely fits the Masterkeys Pro S. I haven't tried it with the non-Pro Masterkeys S, but at the very least you'd have to remove the 3 LEDs above the arrow keys for that one.
I've yet to complete my fully-modded Gateron Masterkeys Pro S with R1 case! arrgh
Post by: madindehead on Wed, 09 August 2017, 03:05:28
Post by: pexon on Wed, 09 August 2017, 05:08:51
If so, I wonder if I'll get it before the UK meet on Saturday
Post by: autobot on Wed, 09 August 2017, 10:38:50
I'd love an Apple Macbook Space Space Grey (match dat iMac Pro/MacBook/Pro, it's a different gray than iPhone 6/6s/iPad Space Gray), and a color that would compliment/match the upcoming GMK Laser (annodized magenta/purply navy)?
I already ordered a Gray and Silver from you, and I'd still buy more :))
Post by: wukong_bot on Wed, 09 August 2017, 23:27:33
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Post by: norbauer on Thu, 10 August 2017, 11:58:43
To be more specific: I've been promised powder coated cases this afternoon and should be able to ship some of them this afternoon and tomorrow, but it now looks like the anodized cases won't arrive to me until next week. >_< I'm kind of at my wit's end with vendors providing overly optimistic timelines for when things will happen; I'm sure it annoys you guys too, and it makes me look like a moron because things always get pushed out to a few days from when the last scheduled date was. But of course all I can do is tell you guys what they tell me. =\ In any case, I apologize again for all the wibbly-wobbliness with respect to the timeline. The inspection/packing company sent me videos (see above), pictures, and reports so I know everything is moving along, but I haven't actually yet gotten the DHL tracking number on the anodized cases. As soon as I have it, I should be able to provide more specific info. I think they shipped yesterday--and theoretically the transit time is 3-4 days, barring customs delays. That's the best info I have at the moment.
I can at least promise is that once I get my hands on them, my turnaround will be fast. I'm sitting here, tape gun in hand, ready and raring to go. ;)
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 10 August 2017, 12:01:23
Quote from: norbauer
... I'll probably do another quick "mini group buy" right after the r2...
Quick question, do you plan to do powder coated cases in R2.5?
Yes. :)
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Thu, 10 August 2017, 12:18:30
To be more specific: I've been promised powder coated cases this afternoon and should be able to ship some of them this afternoon and tomorrow, but it now looks like the anodized cases won't arrive to me until next week.
Ooooh any chance you might be able snap a picture of the Retro Refrigerator before it gets boxed up?
(http://i.imgur.com/7UyJnf8.png)
Appreciate all the updates norbauer, I can tell this buy is in very good hands :thumb:
Post by: zslane on Thu, 10 August 2017, 13:05:38
I'm kind of at my wit's end with vendors providing overly optimistic timelines for when things will happen; I'm sure it annoys you guys too, and it makes me look like a moron because things always get pushed out to a few days from when the last scheduled date was.
My expectations are always very low when it comes to overseas vendors (Chinese in particular). Their track record, on the whole, is unimpressive enough that I feel incredibly lucky if nothing happens to disappoint me. As such, I fully expect to be disappointed, usually multiple times during a project.
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 10 August 2017, 13:11:39
I'm kind of at my wit's end with vendors providing overly optimistic timelines for when things will happen; I'm sure it annoys you guys too, and it makes me look like a moron because things always get pushed out to a few days from when the last scheduled date was.
My expectations are always very low when it comes to overseas vendors (Chinese in particular). Their track record, on the whole, is unimpressive enough that I feel incredibly lucky if nothing happens to disappoint me. As such, I fully expect to be disappointed, usually multiple times during a project.
Honestly, I've had some amazing and terrible experiences with Chinese vendors, and about the same when it comes to US vendors. It's all a crapshoot until you actually work a few projects with a vendor, and in my experience the thing that matters most is being able to forge a personal relationship—which, admittedly, is harder across a large ocean and a language. But the powder coating shop right here in Silicon Valley, for example, promised me that I'd have these cases before I left for my trip almost two weeks ago. They do good work, but are very bad at time estimates. If they were in China, we might be blaming it on their country of location, but the truth is all humans is bad at estimating how long things take, and everyone is always overly optimistic with estimates, even when we know about the pattern. In my experience, almost all creative projects observe Hofstadter's law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstadter%27s_law).
Post by: zslane on Thu, 10 August 2017, 13:41:22
Sadly, today's cutthroat business environment seems to push vendors towards overly optimistic estimates in order to keep customers on the hook so they don't switch to another vendor mid-project.
Post by: autobot on Thu, 10 August 2017, 14:05:30
almost all creative projects observe Hofstadter's law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstadter%27s_law).
As a designer, I totally relate to everything you said.
That was one of the most entertaining Wikipedia rabbit holes I've dove into.
Ninety-ninety rule
Optimism bias
Parkinson's law
Planning fallacy
Reference class forecasting
Student syndrome
Lindy Effect
Valve Time
Post by: Aox on Thu, 10 August 2017, 21:15:20
Post by: losthumans on Thu, 10 August 2017, 22:35:40
I didn't know about this threat when I originally purchased my case from Originative, or I would've probably gone direct. Where does the Originative batch fit in with shipping and such? Thank you sir!I also ordered via Originative so I could snag a Novatouch as well. I believe Norbauer said that those shipments were direct from the inspection group in China to Originative. I would guess they would show up around the same time but not sure how long Originative needs to do their own in-house inspection and shipping. I'm thinking (optimistically) maybe a week later than if you ordered direct. Total guess though.
Post by: engra on Fri, 11 August 2017, 05:15:29
I didn't know about this threat when I originally purchased my case from Originative, or I would've probably gone direct. Where does the Originative batch fit in with shipping and such? Thank you sir!
What threat?
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 11 August 2017, 10:14:30
I didn't know about this threat when I originally purchased my case from Originative, or I would've probably gone direct. Where does the Originative batch fit in with shipping and such? Thank you sir!
What threat?
I think Aox meant "thread." ;)
Post by: KaosJ on Fri, 11 August 2017, 10:36:32
Post by: Longlong14 on Fri, 11 August 2017, 15:38:21
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 11 August 2017, 19:03:47
I got all the enigma black and custom powder colors; all that remains from the powder cases are some retro refrigerator and white cases, which the shop promised (with their apologies) to get me early next week. The anodized cases are presumably somewhere over the Pacific now, also arriving to me this coming week.
But in the meantime, I've got the powder cases that I have all boxed up and will print labels this evening. I'll keep harassing the powder shop next week to get me the last of the remaining two colors.
Rather than batching the shipment together as I had originally planned, I'll also go ahead and ship cases as I have them to avoid keeping people waiting any longer than necessary. You'll know when yours ships when you get the notification from Shopify with a tracking number. :)
Post by: consolation on Fri, 11 August 2017, 19:24:44
Post by: consolation on Sat, 12 August 2017, 19:20:41
Post by: skizosavior on Sun, 13 August 2017, 01:36:31
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Post by: Bromono on Sun, 13 August 2017, 20:05:25
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 14 August 2017, 10:42:46
Any chance of having a type C breakout board to replace the stock mini USB in the next round? If I recall correctly your Topre design in progress has Type C so I was wondering if this would get updated.
We don't really have the room to work with to do that on this board. The RealForce has that big PCB overhang at the top, and there is a big cutout in it where I stick my breakout board. But there is barely a mm of free space in this case. =\
Post by: avid on Mon, 14 August 2017, 10:54:32
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 14 August 2017, 10:58:31
There is some talk about the r2.5. Is this something that is next in line or something that might happend after the Realforce case?
I'll probably actually kick it off within the next week or so, after I'm done shipping the r2 cases. I just don't want to have both going on at the same time, to keep myself (and my inbox) from getting overwhelmed. :)
I'm still working out some final technical/manufacturing issues on the RealForce cases, so that one's still a few weeks off.
Post by: Dysnomia on Wed, 16 August 2017, 01:50:41
Quote from: norbauer
... I'll probably do another quick "mini group buy" right after the r2...
I hope I actually catch this group buy this time :D This makes me so happy.
Post by: hayt on Wed, 16 August 2017, 10:26:47
still a few weeks off.
!!! getting hyped
Post by: chalks on Wed, 16 August 2017, 17:44:15
Now I need to bring much Novatouch back from work to put it in the case.
Post by: clappingcactus on Wed, 16 August 2017, 18:20:28
Post by: consolation on Thu, 17 August 2017, 00:37:45
Post by: consolation on Thu, 17 August 2017, 01:33:20
Got my Enigma Black case today. The photos might not be very good but it is most impressive. And considering it was shipped internationally to London it arrived very quickly too. Thank you very much Norbauer!
Now I need to bring much Novatouch back from work to put it in the case.
I'm so glad I got the enigma, I have a 60s Philips stereo amp made in the same style; it's going to be converted into my next computer build and have a matching board. I'm still looking for a way to make a complimenting monitor frame - just need to get some other projects off my plate first.
Post by: madindehead on Thu, 17 August 2017, 03:04:20
Just need a good keyset that will match it :thinking:
Post by: zslane on Thu, 17 August 2017, 12:21:44
Back when I pre-ordered, I figured, hey I'll have more than enough time before my friend's birthday in September. Little did I know how overly optimistic I was being, though I really shouldn't be at all surprised. This is the mech keyboard hobby we're talking about after all...
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 17 August 2017, 13:06:19
Back when I pre-ordered, I figured, hey I'll have more than enough time before my friend's birthday in September. Little did I know how overly optimistic I was being, though I really shouldn't be at all surprised. This is the mech keyboard hobby we're talking about after all...
Round 1 went super fast. The main issue that caused round 2 to take longer was the Galaxy Blue. It proved an exceedingly difficult color to anodize due to the unusually high number of dye pigments required to match it, and it was thus the source of almost all the anodizing issues that delayed things this round. (Of course, the factory only mentioned this difficulty with the color after they returned the first batch and I observed that the color match wasn't right.) As such, I'm sorry to say that in the next round I don't think I'll be able to offer Galaxy Blue again. It's just way more trouble than it's worth. (You guys have all been very patient, which I greatly appreciate, but it still causes me a lot of stress to be running later than my planned schedule, so I want to do anything I can do avoid that in subsequent projects.)
Incidentally, by way of an update, I got the tracking numbers for the anodized cases last weekend, and they have been en route since then. I keep hitting refresh on the page twenty times a day, but as yet don't know precisely what day they'll arrive. I keep hoping they'll arrive this week, since that's what the freight forwarder told me, but I guess I need to keep remembering to keep multiplying everyone's time estimates by a factor of at least 3. :(
Post by: cynviloq on Thu, 17 August 2017, 14:34:29
Back when I pre-ordered, I figured, hey I'll have more than enough time before my friend's birthday in September. Little did I know how overly optimistic I was being, though I really shouldn't be at all surprised. This is the mech keyboard hobby we're talking about after all...
Round 1 went super fast. The main issue that caused round 2 to take longer was the Galaxy Blue. It proved an exceedingly difficult color to anodize due to the unusually high number of dye pigments required to match it, and it was thus the source of almost all the anodizing issues that delayed things this round. (Of course, the factory only mentioned this difficulty with the color after they returned the first batch and I observed that the color match wasn't right.) As such, I'm sorry to say that in the next round I don't think I'll be able to offer Galaxy Blue again. It's just way more trouble than it's worth. (You guys have all been very patient, which I greatly appreciate, but it still causes me a lot of stress to be running later than my planned schedule, so I want to do anything I can do avoid that in subsequent projects.)
Incidentally, by way of an update, I got the tracking numbers for the anodized cases last weekend, and they have been en route since then. I keep hitting refresh on the page twenty times a day, but as yet don't know precisely what day they'll arrive. I keep hoping they'll arrive this week, since that's what the freight forwarder told me, but I guess I need to keep remembering to keep multiplying everyone's time estimates by a factor of at least 3. :(
Now I want a Galaxy Blue....
Post by: elcubismo on Thu, 17 August 2017, 14:38:00
Back when I pre-ordered, I figured, hey I'll have more than enough time before my friend's birthday in September. Little did I know how overly optimistic I was being, though I really shouldn't be at all surprised. This is the mech keyboard hobby we're talking about after all...
Round 1 went super fast. The main issue that caused round 2 to take longer was the Galaxy Blue. It proved an exceedingly difficult color to anodize due to the unusually high number of dye pigments required to match it, and it was thus the source of almost all the anodizing issues that delayed things this round. (Of course, the factory only mentioned this difficulty with the color after they returned the first batch and I observed that the color match wasn't right.) As such, I'm sorry to say that in the next round I don't think I'll be able to offer Galaxy Blue again. It's just way more trouble than it's worth. (You guys have all been very patient, which I greatly appreciate, but it still causes me a lot of stress to be running later than my planned schedule, so I want to do anything I can do avoid that in subsequent projects.)
Incidentally, by way of an update, I got the tracking numbers for the anodized cases last weekend, and they have been en route since then. I keep hitting refresh on the page twenty times a day, but as yet don't know precisely what day they'll arrive. I keep hoping they'll arrive this week, since that's what the freight forwarder told me, but I guess I need to keep remembering to keep multiplying everyone's time estimates by a factor of at least 3. :(
Bro, in the grand scheme of things this is going by just fine. At the end of the day, I just remind myself that I'm eventually getting a sick case that I'm probably going to keep forever. Thanks for being so transparent Norbauer, and being so personally invested in making these group buys happen in a reasonable time frame. It's a mark of a good person that you judge yourself on your past successes and feel like you are lacking when your next success is not as impressive as you would like it to be. You da man :thumb:
Post by: TheEerieCold on Thu, 17 August 2017, 16:32:25
Back when I pre-ordered, I figured, hey I'll have more than enough time before my friend's birthday in September. Little did I know how overly optimistic I was being, though I really shouldn't be at all surprised. This is the mech keyboard hobby we're talking about after all...
Round 1 went super fast. The main issue that caused round 2 to take longer was the Galaxy Blue. It proved an exceedingly difficult color to anodize due to the unusually high number of dye pigments required to match it, and it was thus the source of almost all the anodizing issues that delayed things this round. (Of course, the factory only mentioned this difficulty with the color after they returned the first batch and I observed that the color match wasn't right.) As such, I'm sorry to say that in the next round I don't think I'll be able to offer Galaxy Blue again. It's just way more trouble than it's worth. (You guys have all been very patient, which I greatly appreciate, but it still causes me a lot of stress to be running later than my planned schedule, so I want to do anything I can do avoid that in subsequent projects.)
Incidentally, by way of an update, I got the tracking numbers for the anodized cases last weekend, and they have been en route since then. I keep hitting refresh on the page twenty times a day, but as yet don't know precisely what day they'll arrive. I keep hoping they'll arrive this week, since that's what the freight forwarder told me, but I guess I need to keep remembering to keep multiplying everyone's time estimates by a factor of at least 3. :(
Thanks for the update! Please don't stress yourself over issues you can't control. Seeing that packaging and the attention to detail you put into this really makes the wait worth it. Whats the news on the powder coated cases, are they still baking in the oven?
Post by: The_Skynacho on Fri, 18 August 2017, 03:04:48
Post by: deterouni on Fri, 18 August 2017, 07:47:40
Back when I pre-ordered, I figured, hey I'll have more than enough time before my friend's birthday in September. Little did I know how overly optimistic I was being, though I really shouldn't be at all surprised. This is the mech keyboard hobby we're talking about after all...
Round 1 went super fast. The main issue that caused round 2 to take longer was the Galaxy Blue. It proved an exceedingly difficult color to anodize due to the unusually high number of dye pigments required to match it, and it was thus the source of almost all the anodizing issues that delayed things this round. (Of course, the factory only mentioned this difficulty with the color after they returned the first batch and I observed that the color match wasn't right.) As such, I'm sorry to say that in the next round I don't think I'll be able to offer Galaxy Blue again. It's just way more trouble than it's worth. (You guys have all been very patient, which I greatly appreciate, but it still causes me a lot of stress to be running later than my planned schedule, so I want to do anything I can do avoid that in subsequent projects.)
Incidentally, by way of an update, I got the tracking numbers for the anodized cases last weekend, and they have been en route since then. I keep hitting refresh on the page twenty times a day, but as yet don't know precisely what day they'll arrive. I keep hoping they'll arrive this week, since that's what the freight forwarder told me, but I guess I need to keep remembering to keep multiplying everyone's time estimates by a factor of at least 3. :(
Dude you have been 100% awesome with updates and keeping us in the loop. One of the best GB runners in the scene. Thanks again for putting in all this work, and don't worry about the delays.
Post by: Longlong14 on Fri, 18 August 2017, 13:12:12
Post by: codywanks on Sat, 19 August 2017, 00:13:44
I've yet to complete my fully-modded Gateron Masterkeys Pro S with R1 case! arrgh
Finally got around to building it :D
(http://imgur.com/qJoO3Ca.jpg)
More pics here. (http://imgur.com/a/hEQ0k)
Enjoy your R2 cases guys, I'll be waiting patiently for R2.5!
Post by: pexon on Sat, 19 August 2017, 03:25:42
Post by: codywanks on Sat, 19 August 2017, 06:18:10
Man they turned out great. The packaging really makes them something a bit extra special, I can't wait aggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh :))
James, please give us the option of ordering cables with smaller Micro USB heads that'll fit this case!
Post by: robotsokk on Sat, 19 August 2017, 09:17:19
I've yet to complete my fully-modded Gateron Masterkeys Pro S with R1 case! arrgh
Finally got around to building it :DShow Image(http://imgur.com/qJoO3Ca.jpg)
More pics here. (http://imgur.com/a/hEQ0k)
Enjoy your R2 cases guys, I'll be waiting patiently for R2.5!
Looks great, thanks for sharing pics :)
Makes me super eager to get my hands on mine.
Man they turned out great. The packaging really makes them something a bit extra special, I can't wait aggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh :))
James, please give us the option of ordering cables with smaller Micro USB heads that'll fit this case!
This! Pretty please? I think I'm due for a cable refresh soon... ;D
Post by: krutmob on Sat, 19 August 2017, 10:35:09
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 19 August 2017, 11:29:10
These are looking great! Will I receive a shipping notification?
Yes, absolutely.
By way of a non-update update: so far only powder-coated cases have shipped, and I'm picking up the last of the retro refrigerator and white cases next week. As I've reported, the anodized cases shipped over a week ago so are probably in US customs right now, but since on this shipment the freight forwarder (somewhat annoyingly) chose to send the cartons via SF Express+UPS rather than DHL, the tracking number only goes live once they've cleared customs and are in the UPS domestic system. This means that I'll probably only see tracking info like 12 hours before they're delivered, but I keep being assured that should be any day now. ¯\_(°_◞°)_/¯
In any case, yes, if you gave an accurate email address (and got a receipt by email), you'll definitely get a shipment confirmation. If anybody's address has changed, please don't hesitate to send me your new one.
Post by: TheEerieCold on Sat, 19 August 2017, 15:28:16
I've yet to complete my fully-modded Gateron Masterkeys Pro S with R1 case! arrgh
Finally got around to building it :DShow Image(http://imgur.com/qJoO3Ca.jpg)
More pics here. (http://imgur.com/a/hEQ0k)
Enjoy your R2 cases guys, I'll be waiting patiently for R2.5!
Looks great, thanks for sharing pics :)
Makes me super eager to get my hands on mine.Man they turned out great. The packaging really makes them something a bit extra special, I can't wait aggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh :))
James, please give us the option of ordering cables with smaller Micro USB heads that'll fit this case!
This! Pretty please? I think I'm due for a cable refresh soon... ;D
Oh man, I ordered a micro USB cable from them not knowing this about 3 weeks ago. It looks like the PexonPCs site us uh.. being worked on right now. Have you already switched these connectors over James?
Post by: pexon on Sun, 20 August 2017, 09:08:10
P.s. If you want a Micro that fits when the site is back up, just make a note in the order comments that its for the Norb case and we can make that happen ;) If you've got an order and the connectors are not on yet, we can change them for you too, send Davina an email at info@pexonpcs.co.uk :)
Post by: Longlong14 on Sun, 20 August 2017, 15:09:46
Post by: olieatstofu on Mon, 21 August 2017, 07:03:13
Post by: funkybeat7 on Mon, 21 August 2017, 12:44:09
waiting for a sweet round 2.5.... patiently ;DSamesies
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Post by: TheEerieCold on Mon, 21 August 2017, 16:12:23
waiting for a sweet round 2.5.... patiently ;DSamesies
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I have not even received my R2 and already tempted to get another. This week feels like "the week" when we start getting those shipping notices. ;D
Post by: navy2x on Mon, 21 August 2017, 18:17:05
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 21 August 2017, 19:19:16
Thanks again everyone, as always, for your kind words and encouragement. At last, the home stretch. <3
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 21 August 2017, 19:37:54
Post by: TheEerieCold on Mon, 21 August 2017, 20:00:34
Post by: grandtheftspaceman on Wed, 23 August 2017, 06:49:42
Post by: clappingcactus on Wed, 23 August 2017, 07:55:22
It's like an reversed alphas/mods Calm Depths. And the legend colour is VBV (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/template/images/absgreen.jpg) instead of BBQ (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/template/images/absblue.jpg).
I've tried to pair Calm Depths with my retro refrigerator already, and the legends were too blue. I think this new set would be just right. I already bought the set and hopefully will have it early enough that you all could see what it looks like in real life before you buy, but I still think it would pair great with our cases sight unseen.
edit: I'm in no way affiliated with the people who are running that set. I just thought people here would like to know this info.
Post by: TheEerieCold on Wed, 23 August 2017, 08:16:11
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 23 August 2017, 21:06:08
Post by: consolation on Wed, 23 August 2017, 21:07:19
And... I'm sad, I'm sad because I'll never open one of Norbauer's packages for the first time again. The fit and finish on this case is amazing, and, Enigma Black lives up to the hype; it's an awesome finish.
Enigma Black detail.
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With a matching mITX case conversion. The finish complements Jukebox and the case perfectly.
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Just waiting for Ryzen parts to make the volume knob send v+/- and and going to use a teensy board to have the selector switches change audio output and OC profiles. It's got a Haswell i5 and a 290 in it atm. 290 fit on a right angle 16x adapter, so video comes out on the side and needs a custom sideplate cut to tidy up the conversion.
PS. If you are on the fence about getting the powder coat finish in R2.5, I'd really recommend it - especially if you like SA and retro-ish keycap sets. Plus, it sets the case apart from all other ones out there. Amazing job Ryan.
Post by: yonghf on Wed, 23 August 2017, 22:09:34
Post by: madindehead on Thu, 24 August 2017, 01:39:33
Post by: pootsounds on Thu, 24 August 2017, 07:13:12
Post by: zslane on Thu, 24 August 2017, 12:16:11
Post by: consolation on Thu, 24 August 2017, 14:24:54
Retro Refrigerator strikes me as the proper match-up with Jukebox...
The two shades of blue-green would clash in my opinion, that's why I changed the order from RR to EB. They are very close to each other, but not the same, so it might look off. TBH, I'm hoping someone will be able to try the combo out and prove my suspicion wrong.
Post by: losthumans on Thu, 24 August 2017, 15:19:26
Norbauer, will you be sending the anodized cases to Orignative or should they have shipped directly from the anodizer to them?Interested in this as well, when I reached out to Originative it sounded like they were waiting for them to all arrive in the same batch but I'm not sure.
Post by: poolside on Thu, 24 August 2017, 17:27:08
Norbauer, will you be sending the anodized cases to Orignative or should they have shipped directly from the anodizer to them?
There was this post from Ryan a month ago:
Regarding Originative orders, those were always going straight to the Originative office for fulfillment in LA, and that plan won't change. I'm sure they'll have a close look over theirs before they ship them out as well.
Post by: pootsounds on Thu, 24 August 2017, 17:30:57
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 24 August 2017, 18:08:51
Norbauer, will you be sending the anodized cases to Orignative or should they have shipped directly from the anodizer to them?Interested in this as well, when I reached out to Originative it sounded like they were waiting for them to all arrive in the same batch but I'm not sure.
Latest info: I offered to check the cases over before forwarding them along to Originative, so they'll be shipping out to Originative with the others in the next day or two.
Post by: poolside on Thu, 24 August 2017, 18:14:33
Norbauer, will you be sending the anodized cases to Orignative or should they have shipped directly from the anodizer to them?Interested in this as well, when I reached out to Originative it sounded like they were waiting for them to all arrive in the same batch but I'm not sure.
Latest info: I offered to check the cases over before forwarding them along to Originative, so they'll be shipping out to Originative with the others in the next day or two.
Thanks for the update. The Originative news section has been silent for a while.
Post by: losthumans on Thu, 24 August 2017, 21:49:34
Thanks for the update!Norbauer, will you be sending the anodized cases to Orignative or should they have shipped directly from the anodizer to them?Interested in this as well, when I reached out to Originative it sounded like they were waiting for them to all arrive in the same batch but I'm not sure.
Latest info: I offered to check the cases over before forwarding them along to Originative, so they'll be shipping out to Originative with the others in the next day or two.
Post by: autobot on Fri, 25 August 2017, 13:59:26
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Fri, 25 August 2017, 14:40:46
Seriously though, pumped to see this color in person and no clue what keycap set should go on it.
Post by: pootsounds on Fri, 25 August 2017, 14:46:22
pumped to see this color in person and no clue what keycap set should go on it.
I bet SA Ice Caps would look nice, or maybe DSA Granite without the red a blue accents. Just something really clean and minimal to show off the case.
Post by: pexon on Fri, 25 August 2017, 15:16:47
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 25 August 2017, 15:37:29
Shipment notification! :D Now to try and stop refreshing DHL every 5 minutes :))
Yay! All the DHL boxes that got shipment notifications should be going out today. The remaining USPS and UPS parcels will be picked up en masse on Monday, so those tracking numbers won't go live until quite then. But in any case most people, both in the USA and abroad, should be getting their boxes next week. :D
I still have several orders to work through, but I'd say I've boxed and labeled 75% of the cases at this point. I did have some finishes that either never showed up or had cosmetic blemishes. I'll be reaching out to affected people later today or tomorrow to figure out how to handle those situations. I have rush replacements already on the way, but given that I'm already shipping later than I'd hoped, I'll also offer refunds or free r2.5 finish upgrades to folks affected by the shortfall. I just couldn't bring myself to ship out cases that didn't meet my standards; I'd rather mildly disappoint some people than ship cases with my name on them that had cosmetic flaws--especially with a r2.5 around the corner, which means that this round wasn't the last time these would be available.
Again, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH for supporting this project. The machine shop did an amazing job as always, but the anodizing vendor this time caused a lot of hiccups and delays, but I've got a new production strategy for future projects/rounds that should hopefully smooth over and prevent such difficulties. In the meantime, I have really appreciated everyone's patience and understanding while I've gone back and forth with the factory to ensure that the cases we all got were as high quality as I could make them.
As I've said so many times before: keyboard people are awesome. <3
Post by: TheEerieCold on Fri, 25 August 2017, 18:50:48
(http://i.imgur.com/qq0hmhh.jpg)
Link to gallery http://imgur.com/a/VU8Db (http://imgur.com/a/VU8Db)
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 25 August 2017, 19:21:26
Ok, finally got everything put together. I'm in love!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qq0hmhh.jpg)
Link to gallery http://imgur.com/a/VU8Db (http://imgur.com/a/VU8Db)
Beautiful! Thanks for sharing these pics. The keyset is an excellent complement to the case. :)
Post by: consolation on Fri, 25 August 2017, 21:30:11
Ok, finally got everything put together. I'm in love!
Link to gallery http://imgur.com/a/VU8Db (http://imgur.com/a/VU8Db)
That's awesome, the colour match is uncanny. Norbauer, you really need a gallery page on your website...
I'll be reaching out to affected people later today or tomorrow to figure out how to handle those situations. I have rush replacements already on the way, but given that I'm already shipping later than I'd hoped, I'll also offer refunds or free r2.5 finish upgrades to folks affected by the shortfall....
Take the free upgrade you fools! :D
- You are going to get the awesome, awesome, powder finish for free!
- Your box is going to have the geeky cool "//Round 2.5" on it.
Post by: autobot on Fri, 25 August 2017, 22:45:28
Ok, finally got everything put together. I'm in love!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qq0hmhh.jpg)
Link to gallery http://imgur.com/a/VU8Db (http://imgur.com/a/VU8Db)
Nice! Does anybody know how the retro refrigerator finish looks against GMK TU2?
Post by: losthumans on Fri, 25 August 2017, 23:05:01
Thank you for the update, do you know if this affects any of the Originative orders? Thank you!Shipment notification! :D Now to try and stop refreshing DHL every 5 minutes :))
Yay! All the DHL boxes that got shipment notifications should be going out today. The remaining USPS and UPS parcels will be picked up en masse on Monday, so those tracking numbers won't go live until quite then. But in any case most people, both in the USA and abroad, should be getting their boxes next week. :D
I still have several orders to work through, but I'd say I've boxed and labeled 75% of the cases at this point. I did have some finishes that either never showed up or had cosmetic blemishes. I'll be reaching out to affected people later today or tomorrow to figure out how to handle those situations. I have rush replacements already on the way, but given that I'm already shipping later than I'd hoped, I'll also offer refunds or free r2.5 finish upgrades to folks affected by the shortfall. I just couldn't bring myself to ship out cases that didn't meet my standards; I'd rather mildly disappoint some people than ship cases with my name on them that had cosmetic flaws--especially with a r2.5 around the corner, which means that this round wasn't the last time these would be available.
Again, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH for supporting this project. The machine shop did an amazing job as always, but the anodizing vendor this time caused a lot of hiccups and delays, but I've got a new production strategy for future projects/rounds that should hopefully smooth over and prevent such difficulties. In the meantime, I have really appreciated everyone's patience and understanding while I've gone back and forth with the factory to ensure that the cases we all got were as high quality as I could make them.
As I've said so many times before: keyboard people are awesome. <3
Post by: nevaenuf on Sat, 26 August 2017, 00:26:41
Post by: DreLLin on Sat, 26 August 2017, 02:15:42
Shipment notification! :D Now to try and stop refreshing DHL every 5 minutes :))
Yay! All the DHL boxes that got shipment notifications should be going out today. The remaining USPS and UPS parcels will be picked up en masse on Monday, so those tracking numbers won't go live until quite then. But in any case most people, both in the USA and abroad, should be getting their boxes next week. :D
I still have several orders to work through, but I'd say I've boxed and labeled 75% of the cases at this point. I did have some finishes that either never showed up or had cosmetic blemishes. I'll be reaching out to affected people later today or tomorrow to figure out how to handle those situations. I have rush replacements already on the way, but given that I'm already shipping later than I'd hoped, I'll also offer refunds or free r2.5 finish upgrades to folks affected by the shortfall. I just couldn't bring myself to ship out cases that didn't meet my standards; I'd rather mildly disappoint some people than ship cases with my name on them that had cosmetic flaws--especially with a r2.5 around the corner, which means that this round wasn't the last time these would be available.
Again, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH for supporting this project. The machine shop did an amazing job as always, but the anodizing vendor this time caused a lot of hiccups and delays, but I've got a new production strategy for future projects/rounds that should hopefully smooth over and prevent such difficulties. In the meantime, I have really appreciated everyone's patience and understanding while I've gone back and forth with the factory to ensure that the cases we all got were as high quality as I could make them.
As I've said so many times before: keyboard people are awesome. <3
Please tell me that my white powder coated case isn’t affected.
Post by: engra on Sat, 26 August 2017, 05:55:41
Ok, finally got everything put together. I'm in love!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qq0hmhh.jpg)
Link to gallery http://imgur.com/a/VU8Db (http://imgur.com/a/VU8Db)
what colorway is that snapper?
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Sat, 26 August 2017, 06:06:57
Cheers
Post by: TheEerieCold on Sat, 26 August 2017, 09:05:59
Ok, finally got everything put together. I'm in love!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qq0hmhh.jpg)
Link to gallery http://imgur.com/a/VU8Db (http://imgur.com/a/VU8Db)
what colorway is that snapper?
That would be a Gravestone snapper :D
Post by: sysfury on Sat, 26 August 2017, 16:50:47
Post by: DreLLin on Sat, 26 August 2017, 17:05:09
Post by: jimmydosveces on Sat, 26 August 2017, 17:30:26
I still have several orders to work through, but I'd say I've boxed and labeled 75% of the cases at this point. I did have some finishes that either never showed up or had cosmetic blemishes. I'll be reaching out to affected people later today or tomorrow to figure out how to handle those situations. I have rush replacements already on the way, but given that I'm already shipping later than I'd hoped, I'll also offer refunds or free r2.5 finish upgrades to folks affected by the shortfall. I just couldn't bring myself to ship out cases that didn't meet my standards; I'd rather mildly disappoint some people than ship cases with my name on them that had cosmetic flaws--especially with a r2.5 around the corner, which means that this round wasn't the last time these would be available.
Would you be able to provide photos of the effected Tactical Gray cases? Personally, I'm uninterested in any of the powder choices, and even more uninterested in not getting a case.
Post by: sysfury on Sat, 26 August 2017, 17:42:04
Would you be able to provide photos of the effected Tactical Gray cases? Personally, I'm uninterested in any of the powder choices, and even more uninterested in not getting a case.
These are the photos linked in the mail. If you didn't get the mail, maybe you were chosen for one of the good cases
http://norbauer.us7.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=03bd2d8a9d2480d7fda4743d1&id=16e5b97365&e=a6efdf951d
http://norbauer.us7.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=03bd2d8a9d2480d7fda4743d1&id=16e5b97365&e=a6efdf951d
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170826/22829de97d6dd85133fffed25d153af3.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170826/ff7eecf016319bc8c044f7e63af50533.jpg)
Post by: autobot on Sat, 26 August 2017, 18:17:34
Post by: consolation on Sat, 26 August 2017, 19:53:47
... Personally, I'm uninterested in any of the powder choices, and even more uninterested in not getting a case...
I would strongly recommend taking a second look at the powder coated cases; it doesn't feel like a painted case, if that's what worries you, and it's a finer texture than 60s - 70s shrink coat. It's amazingly tactile, you will look for excuses to stroke your case, as a bonus, touching the case leaves no fingerprints. The powder coating gives the case the gravitas of a high end item that is quite hard to put into words. Now - admittedly, for some keycap sets, an anodised finish would be more appropriate; but, unless you are matching your case to a specific set, imho, you won't go wrong with a powder coat. In fairness, this is based on my experience with an Enigma Black only, so my comments apply to that finish predominantly; but, I ordered enough powder coated bits'n'bobs in a past day job to make a fair guess at what the smoother finishes would be like. It'll be interesting to hear the experience of others, as they get their orders into their dirty little mitts...
Post by: jimmydosveces on Sat, 26 August 2017, 20:01:14
... Personally, I'm uninterested in any of the powder choices, and even more uninterested in not getting a case...
I would strongly recommend taking a second look at the powder coated cases, it doesn't feel like a painted case if that's what worries you and it's a finer texture than 60s - 70s shrink coat. It's amazingly tactile, you will look for excuses to stroke your case and, touching the case, leaves no fingerprints. The powder coating gives the case the gravitas of a high end item that is quite hard to put into words. Now - admittedly, for some keycap sets, an anodised finish would be more appropriate; but, unless you are matching your case to a specific set, imho, you won't go wrong with a powder coat. In fairness, I'm basing this on my experience with Enigma Black only, and my comments apply to that finish predominantly; but I ordered enough powder coated bit's and bob's in my past day job, to make a fair guess at what the smoother finishes would feel like. - it'll be interesting to hear the experience of others, as they get their orders into their dirty little mitts...
Powder coat is an amazing process, and fantastic finish. The color is my concern. The white, black, and blue all look wonderful, but don't have a place on my desk. The tactile gray was set to compliment my anthracite gray Phanteks Evolv case.
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 26 August 2017, 21:55:53
Would you be able to provide photos of the effected Tactical Gray cases? Personally, I'm uninterested in any of the powder choices, and even more uninterested in not getting a case.
For those who didn't get the email but are are curious: some of the tactical gray cases (bead-blast only, not brushed) came back with a slight mismatch between the two halves of the case. Those photos above show the issue on the affected cases. The issue isn't really visible in natural light, which is why I think the inspectors missed it. However, as you can see in the second photo, it's more noticeable in warm light. This at least makes me feel good about my choice to do a final in-person inspection, as I was the only one of the three parties who inspected these to catch the issue.
Some people might not be troubled by this cosmetic flaw, but I don’t consider these cases to be up to my personal standard of quality, so I couldn’t in good conscience send them out to folks without first offering an alternative. I'm giving folks the option of a powder coat upgrade, a partial refund and the case, or a full refund and no case.
A couple of the gray cases did come back with a correct match, so you're only affected if you ordered a bead-blasted tactical gray and didn't get a shipment confirmation already (I've been sending emails to affected people today and just have a few left to send). In order to be fair, I selected who got the good gray ones based on the sequence in which people ordered.
If your order is affected, another option for those committed to getting an anodized case is you can just ask me to put you in r2.5 for a silver or black case, but that would mean waiting at least another month. I didn't even mention that option in my email because I couldn't in good conscience ask people to wait even longer. But if you're fine with it, of course I am too.
Unfortunately, I'm not offering blue or gray next time as anodized colors. Anything other than clear/silver or black just causes way too many problems to be worth it when one needs two chunks of aluminum of different volumes and surface areas that need to match. Getting a correct color match on the blue color greatly delayed the project, and now this issue with the gray cases. Unusual anodizing colors are cool, but this gray case issue will end up having cost me so much money; it's an experience I'd rather not repeat--especially since I've been able to get great results in exotic finishes with powder lately.
I've just about shipped all the orders that are ready (the vast majority turned out great!) and informed anyone affected either by a slight delay or a cosmetic defect. I'll probably post r2.5 in the next couple of days. That way I can batch any r2 replacements in with those.
Thanks so much for hanging in there with me everybody! :)
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 26 August 2017, 22:02:25
Hey Norbauer, can you explain what will be offered in r2.5? This would help me decide what to do with my gray case.
As mentioned above, anodized finishes will be reduced to two in order avoid production risk/delays
- Tactical Black (from r1)
- Aerospace Aluminum (from r2)
To compensate, the powder finishes are being expanded
- Retro Refrigerator (overwhelming community favorite from r2) a sort of green-shifted powder blue—medium gloss with no texture
- Enigma Black a gentle textured black, reminiscent of 1940s-era electronics
- Royal Wrinkle a more aggressive black wrinkle texture, similar to vintage Royal typewriters
- Space Station White a pure white
- Monte Carlo Red an aggressive red wrinkle coat designed to evoke the finish on Ferrari engine blocks
- Venice Beach a totally-not-messing-around hot pink
- Galaxy Console a special tan textured finish designed to complement the forthcoming Galaxy Class keyset from Roddenberry.com on MassDrop
Post by: autobot on Sat, 26 August 2017, 22:05:40
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 26 August 2017, 22:08:05
Nice, too bad I can't choose Venice beach instead of tactical gray. Venice beach sounds fantastic!
Were you one of the people who got the color mis-match email? If so, you can totally get that color! Just email me.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/venice.jpg)
Post by: elcubismo on Sat, 26 August 2017, 22:09:04
(http://i.imgur.com/A5Dmzsz.jpg)
I really love my caps, so I don't see changing them any time soon.
Post by: Longlong14 on Sat, 26 August 2017, 22:19:17
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 26 August 2017, 22:23:09
Darn, im set on tactical gray but its no longer offered :(
FWIW, my next case (RealForce 87U) has the seam on the underside, so it avoids this issue and will be offered in dark gray (hard anodized). Due to the way the Cooler Master plate is designed, however, I needed to put the seam on the sides on this case, which makes gray problematic. Sometimes the anodizing shop hits the mark with the grays and blues, and oftentimes they don't. It's just too much of a crapshoot.
I could probably add an r2.5 dark gray powder finish if folks are especially keen.
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 26 August 2017, 22:26:58
Have you considered cerakote options for future rounds? It's extremely durable (far more so than powder coat), and comes in a wide array of colors, many of which cannot be achieved with standard anodization.
Thanks,
P
Post by: autobot on Sat, 26 August 2017, 22:38:19
Nice, too bad I can't choose Venice beach instead of tactical gray. Venice beach sounds fantastic!
Were you one of the people who got the color mis-match email? If so, you can totally get that color! Just email me.Show Image(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7116954/Novatouch%20Round%201/Novatouch%20Round%202/venice.jpg)
Yes! Count me in! I'll reply to your email! Thank you so much!
Post by: zslane on Sun, 27 August 2017, 00:10:01
Post by: TheEerieCold on Sun, 27 August 2017, 00:12:30
Post by: norbauer on Sun, 27 August 2017, 00:18:57
Is there an example of what the Galaxy Console tan will look like?
Yes, I'm going to do a photo tomorrow. :)
Post by: norbauer on Sun, 27 August 2017, 00:20:01
Oh man that pink is amazing. Please please please do a purple to go with Laser!
Can you post some pics of the color you're looking for?
Post by: TheEerieCold on Sun, 27 August 2017, 01:16:07
Oh man that pink is amazing. Please please please do a purple to go with Laser!
Can you post some pics of the color you're looking for?
Possibly a purple similar to GMK's DY (see https://imgur.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/sS8geqB (https://imgur.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/sS8geqB) ) or maybe something a little more exotic like a metallic purple such as this Candy Purple https://www.powderbuythepound.com/candy-purple.html (https://www.powderbuythepound.com/candy-purple.html).
Post by: autobot on Sun, 27 August 2017, 07:50:07
Oh man that pink is amazing. Please please please do a purple to go with Laser!
Can you post some pics of the color you're looking for?
Possibly a purple similar to GMK's DY (see https://imgur.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/sS8geqB (https://imgur.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/sS8geqB) ) or maybe something a little more exotic like a metallic purple such as this Candy Purple https://www.powderbuythepound.com/candy-purple.html (https://www.powderbuythepound.com/candy-purple.html).
The second purple would be a great match for laser. Ugh, now I'm hesitant about my Venice beach choice, lol!
I'm looking for a case to match GMK Laser as well.
Post by: TheCanisDirus on Sun, 27 August 2017, 09:00:02
Is there an example of what the Galaxy Console tan will look like?
Yes, I'm going to do a photo tomorrow. :)
I'm interested to see this tan! Was one of the ones unfortunately affected by the grey mismatch. Sucks a crazy amount but it's not your fault. Thanks for at least giving us some options.
Post by: elcubismo on Sun, 27 August 2017, 10:41:03
Post by: HighNoon on Sun, 27 August 2017, 13:00:28
The key set I would most like to use with this board is GMK Carbon but I can't decide if Enigma Black or Space Station White would match better. Typically though I'm not one to keep a set on a board forever so other sets I may use are GMK Hyperfuse, GMK Nautilus (when it arrives), and GMK Laser (if it ever launches).
I'd appreciate any advice!
Post by: Auk on Sun, 27 August 2017, 13:22:10
The delay is still not a problem since I am without keyboard and keycaps for the moment anyway.
Post by: zslane on Sun, 27 August 2017, 13:34:04
I was also one of the ones affected by the Tactical Gray issue and can't decide what to do.
The key set I would most like to use with this board is GMK Carbon but I can't decide if Enigma Black or Space Station White would match better. Typically though I'm not one to keep a set on a board forever so other sets I may use are GMK Hyperfuse, GMK Nautilus (when it arrives), and GMK Laser (if it ever launches).
I'd appreciate any advice!
I also plan to use these cases with Carbon and Nautilus, which is why I ordered a Tactical Gray and a Galactic Blue. However, I went with the brushed texture on both, so I seem to have avoided the color mismatch issue. I really think Carbon would look best on Tactical Gray, but if that's not an option, then I feel black is your next best bet. Nautilus is only really going to look its best with a dark blue case, IMO, so I'm not sure that black is going really serve Nautilus nearly as well.
Post by: clappingcactus on Sun, 27 August 2017, 13:52:00
Can we also see examples of what you mean by more aggressive textures?
There's a few pixtures from before:
https://shop.norbauer.com/products/factory-second-prototype-coolermaster-case and
(http://norbauerwebshareassets.blob.core.windows.net/props/novatouch-QandA-1.jpg)
I'm giving folks the option of a powder coat upgrade, a partial refund and the case, or a full refund and no case.
Hey Norbauer, if anyone opts for the full refund, let me know. I'll pick up their keyboard and pay for the powder coating so you don't just have a case laying around not pulling its weight.
Post by: elcubismo on Sun, 27 August 2017, 14:15:21
I was also one of the ones affected by the Tactical Gray issue and can't decide what to do.
The key set I would most like to use with this board is GMK Carbon but I can't decide if Enigma Black or Space Station White would match better. Typically though I'm not one to keep a set on a board forever so other sets I may use are GMK Hyperfuse, GMK Nautilus (when it arrives), and GMK Laser (if it ever launches).
I'd appreciate any advice!
I found this image with space station white that looks pretty cool
(https://i.imgur.com/ZFigZSj_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high)
I'm considering the white myself, but I know enigma black would look good also... tough decision.
Post by: HighNoon on Sun, 27 August 2017, 15:11:02
Post by: TheEerieCold on Sun, 27 August 2017, 16:00:18
Oh man that pink is amazing. Please please please do a purple to go with Laser!
Can you post some pics of the color you're looking for?
Possibly a purple similar to GMK's DY (see https://imgur.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/sS8geqB (https://imgur.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/sS8geqB) ) or maybe something a little more exotic like a metallic purple such as this Candy Purple https://www.powderbuythepound.com/candy-purple.html (https://www.powderbuythepound.com/candy-purple.html).
The second purple would be a great match for laser. Ugh, now I'm hesitant about my Venice beach choice, lol!
I'm looking for a case to match GMK Laser as well.
The second purple does look really sweet, I would definitely buy another case if that or a similar color could be offered.
Post by: zslane on Sun, 27 August 2017, 16:03:38
Post by: Longlong14 on Sun, 27 August 2017, 16:20:28
Black is also my next choice if dark gray isn't available. Personally i dont like the powder coated look and texture.
Post by: eksuen on Sun, 27 August 2017, 16:27:47
I actually like Carbon more with the white KUL case because it's slightly off white. Here's a side by side comparison. White KUL with SA Carbon on the left and the Space Station White case with GMK Carbon on the right.
(http://i.imgur.com/ScpTBTT.jpg)
Post by: HighNoon on Sun, 27 August 2017, 16:30:10
That's my photo haha.
I actually like Carbon more with the white KUL case because it's slightly off white. Here's a side by side comparison. White KUL with SA Carbon on the left and the Space Station White case with GMK Carbon.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ScpTBTT.jpg)
I agree with you. Looks fine with Space Station White but looks better with KUL.
Anyone have a pic with GMK (or SA) Carbon with Enigma Black?
Post by: elcubismo on Sun, 27 August 2017, 16:43:25
Post by: HighNoon on Sun, 27 August 2017, 17:00:44
Amyone have thoughts about my caps? Like the space station, but not sure it will mean well with my blanks
Honestly I think either white or black would look fine. Since you have white/white-ish alphas I'd probably go with black for a little contrast
Post by: Longlong14 on Sun, 27 August 2017, 17:01:19
That's my photo haha.it probably looks great in person. Hard to tell from a picture
I actually like Carbon more with the white KUL case because it's slightly off white. Here's a side by side comparison. White KUL with SA Carbon on the left and the Space Station White case with GMK Carbon on the right.
[img width=640 height=423]http://i.imgur.com/ScpTBTT.jpg[img]
Post by: norbauer on Sun, 27 August 2017, 17:01:55
Is there an example of what the Galaxy Console tan will look like?
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/galaxy-console_2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1503871011)
The idea is to evoke the textured tan finish used on computer consoles and equipment throughout TNG.
(http://discuss.fleetworkshop.org/uploads/db1714/original/2X/1/1506c0e1b4bee8453c5b7fd1186820967c174a8e.png)
Post by: zslane on Sun, 27 August 2017, 17:42:25
Post by: norbauer on Sun, 27 August 2017, 18:21:59
Post by: funkybeat7 on Sun, 27 August 2017, 18:27:21
Post by: Evilocity on Sun, 27 August 2017, 18:33:10
Round 2.5 is up now (https://shop.norbauer.com/products/cnc-aluminum-case-for-cooler-master-tkl-boards-round-2-5), by the way. I'm not really going to actively publicize that until Wednesday, when I'll hopefully have some pics of the red and pink colors (and maybe a purple), but I figured I'd get it up now so that folks can see the powder coat color options available. Having r2.5 happen now works out because it'll allow me to get folks replacements who were affected by the r2 shortfall while also accommodating the many requests I've had do make a few more. I aim to please. :)HYPE
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Post by: HighNoon on Sun, 27 August 2017, 18:33:37
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Sun, 27 August 2017, 18:35:59
Round 2.5 is up now (https://shop.norbauer.com/products/cnc-aluminum-case-for-cooler-master-tkl-boards-round-2-5), by the way. I'm not really going to actively publicize that until Wednesday, when I'll hopefully have some pics of the red and pink colors (and maybe a purple), but I figured I'd get it up now so that folks can see the powder coat color options available. Having r2.5 happen now works out because it'll allow me to get folks replacements who were affected by the r2 shortfall while also accommodating the many requests I've had do make a few more. I aim to please. :)
Cool. Will spare risers be sold?
Post by: Longlong14 on Sun, 27 August 2017, 18:36:54
Post by: Auk on Sun, 27 August 2017, 18:40:44
Round 2.5 is up now (https://shop.norbauer.com/products/cnc-aluminum-case-for-cooler-master-tkl-boards-round-2-5)
this website needs the Norbauer logo as a favicon :)
Is round 2.5 the most expensive one yet?
same as round 2 for the painted and $10 more for anodized?
Post by: norbauer on Sun, 27 August 2017, 18:41:12
Got any pics showing the difference between Tactical and Enigma Black? Is the only real difference the slight more textured feel of the Enigma?
I don't actually have any side-by-side pics, no, as it has been a while since I've had a black one on hand. To the casual observer, there may not be much difference. However, the aesthetic qualities of the two are quite different, in my opinion. Tactical black is an anodized finish, so even though it's black it looks more like, well, metal with the black dye infused into it. The powder finish is more opaque, and of course the Enigma finish has a gentle texture. Powder, especially textured powder, is kind of unusual in the world of keyboard cases, so it's a neat/fanciful upgrade option, but only if you're into the visual properties or otherwise just prefer powder coat to anodizing.
Post by: TheEerieCold on Sun, 27 August 2017, 18:44:40
Post by: norbauer on Sun, 27 August 2017, 18:45:27
Round 2.5 is up now (https://shop.norbauer.com/products/cnc-aluminum-case-for-cooler-master-tkl-boards-round-2-5)
this website needs the Norbauer logo as a favicon :)Is round 2.5 the most expensive one yet?
same as round 2 for the painted and $10 more for anodized?
Pricing on the anodized cases is similar to the average cost of the anodized finishes across rounds 1 and 2. With each round I get better at estimating all the costs (and effort) involved, so I tweak the price accordingly. Raising the price slightly on the anodized cases this time should allow me to over-order by a few, with the plan that I'll just have to deal with some rejects/throwaways. This should hopefully avoid having to disappoint folks like I had to this time by cancelling orders where the cases came back with a cosmetic defect.
Post by: autobot on Sun, 27 August 2017, 18:53:01
Round 2.5 is up now (https://shop.norbauer.com/products/cnc-aluminum-case-for-cooler-master-tkl-boards-round-2-5), by the way. I'm not really going to actively publicize that until Wednesday, when I'll hopefully have some pics of the red and pink colors (and maybe a purple), but I figured I'd get it up now so that folks can see the powder coat color options available. Having r2.5 happen now works out because it'll allow me to get folks replacements who were affected by the r2 shortfall while also accommodating the many requests I've had do make a few more. I aim to please. :)
Awesome! I'd love to see pics of the purple finish! Either way, I'm buying a case or two for round 2.5 as well, and I haven't even got my silver yet, lol!
Post by: Dysnomia on Sun, 27 August 2017, 19:38:51
Post by: TheEerieCold on Sun, 27 August 2017, 19:44:47
How long is r2.5 is staying up for? :D
From the store page. "This is a "group buy," ending midnight 10 September. "
Post by: consolation on Sun, 27 August 2017, 21:04:10
Post by: Captain Shwah on Sun, 27 August 2017, 21:43:15
(https://i.imgur.com/bqEduIB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/r2YOaLY.jpg)
This board inspires pure joy every time I look at it, bravo Norbauer!
Post by: TheEerieCold on Sun, 27 August 2017, 22:54:27
For anyone needing r2.5 inspiration ;)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/bqEduIB.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/r2YOaLY.jpg)
This board inspires pure joy every time I look at it, bravo Norbauer!
Looking good! I've got a Hyperfuse set but was too lazy to switch it out to see how it looks, now I know ;D
Post by: gregcake on Mon, 28 August 2017, 00:05:29
Quote
I could probably add an r2.5 dark gray powder finish if folks are especially keen.HELLO GOOD SIR,
I wish to board the tactical grey hype train. Would be super keen for a grey powder finish.
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Mon, 28 August 2017, 04:20:10
QuoteI could probably add an r2.5 dark gray powder finish if folks are especially keen.HELLO GOOD SIR,
I wish to board the tactical grey hype train. Would be super keen for a grey powder finish.
+1 dark grey powder coat. (Or the return of galactic blue pretty please?)
I'd like to use one for Godspeed and that looks great on tactical grey.
Most keycap sets seem to look good on dark grey. Godspeed, Galaxy Class, etc etc.
Any chance of a mild texture dark grey powder coat with a texture a la enigma black?
I would be down for Galactic Blue (I know that was anodised but say a similar colour powder coat as you say this seems to be easier quality control) but doesn't seem to be an option this time :(
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Post by: h3xadat on Mon, 28 August 2017, 07:40:35
Any chance of a mild texture dark grey powder coat with a texture a la enigma black?QuoteI could probably add an r2.5 dark gray powder finish if folks are especially keen.HELLO GOOD SIR,
I wish to board the tactical grey hype train. Would be super keen for a grey powder finish.
+1 for a textured dark grey powder coat a la enigma black.
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Mon, 28 August 2017, 09:56:07
Guess I just forgot what I paid since it's been a while, super excited though that it's finally coming to an end!
Post by: Longlong14 on Mon, 28 August 2017, 10:02:20
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 28 August 2017, 11:57:56
Hi Norb:
Have you considered cerakote options for future rounds? It's extremely durable (far more so than powder coat), and comes in a wide array of colors, many of which cannot be achieved with standard anodization.
Thanks,
P
This was something I looked into during the r1 interest check (i.e., a million years ago). I liked many of the colors available and the durability of the finish, but IIRC the conclusion was that it was prohibitively expensive for parts as large as ours and the durability feature seemed like perhaps overkill for a keyboard case. I'm not averse to exploring it again however! The (excellent, though expensive) shop I've been using for powder also goes ceramic finishes, so I'll ask them about it next time I'm in.
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 28 August 2017, 12:02:57
Oh man that pink is amazing. Please please please do a purple to go with Laser!
Can you post some pics of the color you're looking for?
Possibly a purple similar to GMK's DY (see https://imgur.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/sS8geqB (https://imgur.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/sS8geqB) ) or maybe something a little more exotic like a metallic purple such as this Candy Purple https://www.powderbuythepound.com/candy-purple.html (https://www.powderbuythepound.com/candy-purple.html).
OK, cool. I should be able to confirm about a purple color by Wednesday. Do you guys lean towards a plain purple or a metallic one?
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 28 August 2017, 12:07:28
Can we also see examples of what you mean by more aggressive textures?
These would be example of the full-on wrinkle coats, both of which are available in r2.5 (https://shop.norbauer.com/products/cnc-aluminum-case-for-cooler-master-tkl-boards-round-2-5). The gentler/flatter texture Enigma black is also still available.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/black-wrinkle_95a1c221-de10-45c5-8914-f17bae0b2eab_1024x1024.jpg?v=1503875966)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/ferrari-red_4e518daf-785a-45ce-880c-cf5822d29ec6_1024x1024.jpg?v=1503875966)
Post by: avid on Mon, 28 August 2017, 12:10:44
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 28 August 2017, 12:12:54
Whats the differences between the $220 and 330 cases? Is it different materials? Different finish?
The less expensive process is anodizing. This involves placing all the cases into a tank at once and growing an oxide layer on them. Powder coat is more like a hand-applied paint process (it actually is powder when applied), but using a heat-cured finish that is more durable and provides a better bond than conventional paint. The trick with powder coat is that it takes a skilled applicator to get a good finish for a product like this one. The anodized finishing occurs in China and the powder in California, which is another part of the cost difference.
Post by: Auk on Mon, 28 August 2017, 12:16:46
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 28 August 2017, 12:17:27
Any chance of a mild texture dark grey powder coat with a texture a la enigma black?QuoteI could probably add an r2.5 dark gray powder finish if folks are especially keen.HELLO GOOD SIR,
I wish to board the tactical grey hype train. Would be super keen for a grey powder finish.
+1 for a textured dark grey powder coat a la enigma black.
How about this one:
(https://www.prismaticpowders.com/uploaded/public/final_pi_PTB-6696.jpg)
(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/c135.0.809.809/16790194_381642165554863_1051595211685232640_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQ1NjAyNzEyMTczMDE3NDkyOA%3D%3D.2.c)
It would be a special-order powder, but if a at least 2-3 people ordered it, it would offset the expense enough to do it.
All these color terms are getting a bit overloaded, but we could call it "Enigma gray." ;)
Post by: deterouni on Mon, 28 August 2017, 12:23:14
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 28 August 2017, 12:25:42
Hey I was one of the affected orders. I have replied to the email with my choice of replacement option. Is there anything else I need to do?
You're all set. I'm putting in free replacement orders today as part of r2.5 for those affected. You should get a confirmation email when I do so. My inbox is just completely overflowing today, so it's taking me a while to process through it all. :rolleyes:
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Mon, 28 August 2017, 12:33:45
How about this one:Show Image(https://www.prismaticpowders.com/uploaded/public/final_pi_PTB-6696.jpg)Show Image(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/c135.0.809.809/16790194_381642165554863_1051595211685232640_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQ1NjAyNzEyMTczMDE3NDkyOA%3D%3D.2.c)
It would be a special-order powder, but if a at least 2-3 people ordered it, it would offset the expense enough to do it.
All these color terms are getting a bit overloaded, but we could call it "Enigma gray." ;)
That looks awesome, I only brought it up because you mentioned you may do a tactical grey type powder coat instead of anodizing.
I would be down to purchase and would cart+pay if an Enigma Grey if it were an option at $329 as with other powder coats. Already bursting my budget :S.
Otherwise I'll probably go Enigma Black. Royal Wrinkle, Galaxy Console would probably also be on my list if I could afford them all! Any chance of a 2-for-1 if I also buy a Galaxy Class keyset? ;)
Post by: TheEerieCold on Mon, 28 August 2017, 12:41:22
Oh man that pink is amazing. Please please please do a purple to go with Laser!
Can you post some pics of the color you're looking for?
Possibly a purple similar to GMK's DY (see https://imgur.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/sS8geqB (https://imgur.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/sS8geqB) ) or maybe something a little more exotic like a metallic purple such as this Candy Purple https://www.powderbuythepound.com/candy-purple.html (https://www.powderbuythepound.com/candy-purple.html).
OK, cool. I should be able to confirm about a purple color by Wednesday. Do you guys lean towards a plain purple or a metallic one?
Metallic all the way!
Post by: h3xadat on Mon, 28 August 2017, 12:52:03
How about this one:Show Image(https://www.prismaticpowders.com/uploaded/public/final_pi_PTB-6696.jpg)Show Image(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/c135.0.809.809/16790194_381642165554863_1051595211685232640_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQ1NjAyNzEyMTczMDE3NDkyOA%3D%3D.2.c)
It would be a special-order powder, but if a at least 2-3 people ordered it, it would offset the expense enough to do it.
All these color terms are getting a bit overloaded, but we could call it "Enigma gray." ;)
The grey looks amazing. Is the texture comparable to the black one?
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 28 August 2017, 13:15:58
How about this one:Show Image(https://www.prismaticpowders.com/uploaded/public/final_pi_PTB-6696.jpg)Show Image(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/c135.0.809.809/16790194_381642165554863_1051595211685232640_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQ1NjAyNzEyMTczMDE3NDkyOA%3D%3D.2.c)
It would be a special-order powder, but if a at least 2-3 people ordered it, it would offset the expense enough to do it.
All these color terms are getting a bit overloaded, but we could call it "Enigma gray." ;)
The grey looks amazing. Is the texture comparable to the black one?
Your guess is as good as mine on that one, unfortunately. Since this is a special-order color that the shop doesn't stock, all I have to go on are the pics above. Looks pretty nice though in my opinion. I just added this color to the r2.5 options. :)
By the way, I just posted a new GB thread (pending moderator approval) so we don't have to clutter up r2.5 discussions too much with this thread, which is technically about r2.
Post by: Auk on Mon, 28 August 2017, 13:35:20
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The original Tactical Gray was maybe a bit too warm anyway for this, and the Galaxy Blue is too blue. Coral red doesn't work either...
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Post by: MoebiuS451 on Mon, 28 August 2017, 13:45:55
There seems to be a problem with the order dispatch.
I ordered a Galatic Blue Brushed case (paid 295,14 usd with shipping with 1 EUR = 1.03 USD).
(https://scontent-cdt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21106580_10207923320921234_7321478588413336156_n.jpg?oh=a8f6df5a30d22f274b9b3220045f00f6&oe=5A2901CB)
I received a customs invoice of 68 eur (while this object is in category 8473.30.5100 that are exempt of custom duties). Ok, instead of filling a claim, I paid to be sure that the delivery will be fast...
And I got this:
(https://scontent-cdt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21078486_10207922977872658_2326414619344516744_n.jpg?oh=321eb9211f7595ada5e12521b3f142a5&oe=5A160BFC)
(https://scontent-cdt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21105750_10207922978312669_5547779395238791450_n.jpg?oh=474817a73a399f537344f87410fe2c87&oe=5A209253)
(https://scontent-cdt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21106385_10207922978552675_5401236571986753094_n.jpg?oh=2df27d9260c9c8d91041780e25a675b6&oe=5A124D6B)
It is nearly as dark as the original plastic case.
Original order :
(https://scontent-cdt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21192735_10207923321361245_7547396663857980788_n.jpg?oh=058a4a9e1a5877d28519d61cb8b20545&oe=5A24DACF)
Expected color
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/blue-brushed-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491597409)
The brushing process was forgotten, or it is not the requested finish, and in either case it is not the same price!
Basically I spent 352 eur (284 + 68), equivalent of 420 usd today (1 EUR = 1.195 USD, and received a box listed 199 usd (166 eur at the current FX rate) !!!!
How to fix this problem ? I am not interested at all with this color and I don’t want to support consequent shipping and customs charges :(
Post by: Auk on Mon, 28 August 2017, 14:01:50
I received a customs invoice of 68 eur (while this object is in category 8473.30.5100 that are exempt of custom duties). Ok, instead of filling a claim, I paid to be sure that the delivery will be fast...
You still have to pay your local EU sales tax on anything over €22, and sales tax applies to the postage cost as well. Allowing for a processing fee, €68 is correct on ~€300 (item+shipping price) of goods? Contact your local tax office to query it, if it wrong I'm sure they will refund you after you fill out a form and provide receipts etc.
Post by: autobot on Mon, 28 August 2017, 14:05:31
Oh man that pink is amazing. Please please please do a purple to go with Laser!
Can you post some pics of the color you're looking for?
Possibly a purple similar to GMK's DY (see https://imgur.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/sS8geqB (https://imgur.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/sS8geqB) ) or maybe something a little more exotic like a metallic purple such as this Candy Purple https://www.powderbuythepound.com/candy-purple.html (https://www.powderbuythepound.com/candy-purple.html).
Hey Norbauer, I'm in the same boat as TheEerie Cold. This could be the case to get for Laser, as I havent seen anything that could be a good match with Laser's colors, except for the purple that TheEerieCold noted, and your Venice Beach Color.
A Purple Powder coat (maybe with some metallic fleck in it?) would be the hawtness!
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4416/36478554200_8120658ab5_b.jpg)
IMO Venice Beach would look amazeballs with Laser, though I'm not too sure how the keyset accents would match up:
(Flickr really killed the saturation of the case's pink color, but you get the gist of it)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4347/36040761684_50a67df1d6_b.jpg)
Either way, I'm drooling over both colors, I'm just drooling a bit more over the purple. I might buy a purple and a pink this round. :thumb:
Post by: Auk on Mon, 28 August 2017, 14:20:31
IMO Venice Beach would look amazeballs with Laser, though I'm not too sure how the keyset accents would match up
I don't think you'd want the accents to be too close, you'd just end up with it looking like a poor attempt was made to make them match...
Post by: mkarlsson on Mon, 28 August 2017, 14:26:19
Hey I was one of the affected orders. I have replied to the email with my choice of replacement option. Is there anything else I need to do? Also, if this Enigma Gray is an option of a replacement I would love that since it would still allow me to have a grey color.
Exact same situation here, answered asking for enigma black, but if this is an option for us I would go with the tactical gray.
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Post by: autobot on Mon, 28 August 2017, 14:34:50
IMO Venice Beach would look amazeballs with Laser, though I'm not too sure how the keyset accents would match up
I don't think you'd want the accents to be too close, you'd just end up with it looking like a poor attempt was made to make them match...
Correct, with the Venice, it'd make me want to not use the magenta accents.
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 28 August 2017, 14:41:05
Hello,
There seems to be a problem with the order dispatch.
I ordered a Galatic Blue Brushed case (paid 295,14 usd with shipping with 1 EUR = 1.03 USD).Show Image(https://scontent-cdt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21106580_10207923320921234_7321478588413336156_n.jpg?oh=a8f6df5a30d22f274b9b3220045f00f6&oe=5A2901CB)
I received a customs invoice of 68 eur (while this object is in category 8473.30.5100 that are exempt of custom duties). Ok, instead of filling a claim, I paid to be sure that the delivery will be fast...
And I got this:Show Image(https://scontent-cdt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21078486_10207922977872658_2326414619344516744_n.jpg?oh=321eb9211f7595ada5e12521b3f142a5&oe=5A160BFC)Show Image(https://scontent-cdt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21105750_10207922978312669_5547779395238791450_n.jpg?oh=474817a73a399f537344f87410fe2c87&oe=5A209253)Show Image(https://scontent-cdt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21106385_10207922978552675_5401236571986753094_n.jpg?oh=2df27d9260c9c8d91041780e25a675b6&oe=5A124D6B)
It is nearly as dark as the original plastic case.
Original order :Show Image(https://scontent-cdt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21192735_10207923321361245_7547396663857980788_n.jpg?oh=058a4a9e1a5877d28519d61cb8b20545&oe=5A24DACF)
Expected colorShow Image(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/blue-brushed-1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1491597409)
The brushing process was forgotten, or it is not the requested finish, and in either case it is not the same price!
Basically I spent 352 eur (284 + 68), equivalent of 420 usd today (1 EUR = 1.195 USD, and received a box listed 199 usd (166 eur at the current FX rate) !!!!
How to fix this problem ? I am not interested at all with this color and I don’t want to support consequent shipping and customs charges :(
It might have been better to email me directly to address this issue. Please PM me and I'll totally fix this, including your customs issues. In any case, sorry about the issue. I packed and shipped a literal mountain of boxes out of my living room last week, so I guess it's not surprising that I mixed up two cases with similar looking finishes. If anybody gets a brushed blue one who was supposed to get a bead-blasted one, please let me know. >_< Again, my apologies.
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 28 August 2017, 14:43:06
Oh man that pink is amazing. Please please please do a purple to go with Laser!
Can you post some pics of the color you're looking for?
Possibly a purple similar to GMK's DY (see https://imgur.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/sS8geqB (https://imgur.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/sS8geqB) ) or maybe something a little more exotic like a metallic purple such as this Candy Purple https://www.powderbuythepound.com/candy-purple.html (https://www.powderbuythepound.com/candy-purple.html).
Hey Norbauer, I'm in the same boat as TheEerie Cold. This could be the case to get for Laser, as I havent seen anything that could be a good match with Laser's colors, except for the purple that TheEerieCold noted, and your Venice Beach Color.
A Purple Powder coat (maybe with some metallic fleck in it?) would be the hawtness!Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4416/36478554200_8120658ab5_b.jpg)
IMO Venice Beach would look amazeballs with Laser, though I'm not too sure how the keyset accents would match up:
(Flickr really killed the saturation of the case's pink color, but you get the gist of it)Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4347/36040761684_50a67df1d6_b.jpg)
Either way, I'm drooling over both colors, I'm just drooling a bit more over the purple. I might buy a purple and a pink this round. :thumb:
I distinctly remember one of the house colors at the powder shop being a purple with metal fleck in it, so I think that should be eminently possible. The only thing I have to verify is that it's a one-coat. Some powder coat finishes are two-coat, and I would be worried about those throwing off the tolerances too much.
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 28 August 2017, 14:49:10
Hey I was one of the affected orders. I have replied to the email with my choice of replacement option. Is there anything else I need to do? Also, if this Enigma Gray is an option of a replacement I would love that since it would still allow me to have a grey color.
Exact same situation here, answered asking for enigma black, but if this is an option for us I would go with the tactical gray.
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No problem. Can you just respond to my email again and tell me you want me to switch you to? I have no way of matching up GH usernames to order numbers/emails. :)
Post by: TheCanisDirus on Mon, 28 August 2017, 14:54:24
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Mon, 28 August 2017, 14:57:00
My wallet is not thanking me.
I just wanted to check - the case comes with the risers. I get the impression from pictures this raises the keyboard to about the same height/angle as using the inbuilt stand on the CM. But your website says it raises it to the same height as NOT using the stand - is this just a typo?
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 28 August 2017, 15:02:00
I just wanted to check - the case comes with the risers. I get the impression from pictures this raises the keyboard to about the same height/angle as using the inbuilt stand on the CM. But your website says it raises it to the same height as NOT using the stand - is this just a typo?
The case does indeed come with risers. Specifying the angle is somewhat confusing/misleading. My angle with the risers is based the angle of the face of the keyboard case relative to the surface on which the keyboard rests. When the riser feet are installed, the angle of the face of the keyboard case is roughly the same angle as the native angle of the Novatouch (again, relative to the table surface) without its own flip-out feet deployed. However, because my case is a bit higher up off the desk, this feels subjectively like a slightly greater angle than the native Novatouch in use. So, subjectively, I would say it's feel probably in between the Novatouch with its own flip-out feet stowed and when they are deployed.
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 28 August 2017, 15:04:08
That black full wrinkle coat looks pretty neat. Does it affect tolerances at all? Keys still glide/fit smooth and the top/bottom halves mate flush etc.?
The full wrinkle is as far as I would push the tolerances with powder coat. They keys I tested all fit fine, but those were DSA. Theoretically, keys should all have roughly the same outer boundary and thus should be fine, but I suppose I can't say for certain that there aren't some over-sized caps that might cause problems. You could always just test it out. As I mentioned, I'm going to try to order a few extra this time as a bit of safety margin that I didn't have last time, so if you got it and for some reason the keys didn't fit, I could probably swap for another finish. I'll also conduct some tests before shipping any of them, just to be sure.
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Mon, 28 August 2017, 15:06:35
I just wanted to check - the case comes with the risers. I get the impression from pictures this raises the keyboard to about the same height/angle as using the inbuilt stand on the CM. But your website says it raises it to the same height as NOT using the stand - is this just a typo?
The case does indeed come with risers. Specifying the angle is somewhat confusing/misleading. My angle with the risers is based the angle of the face of the keyboard case relative to the surface on which the keyboard rests. When the riser feet are installed, the angle of the face of the keyboard case is roughly the same angle as the native angle of the Novatouch (again, relative to the table surface) without its own flip-out feet deployed. However, because my case is a bit higher up off the desk, this feels subjectively like a slightly greater angle than the native Novatouch in use. So, subjectively, I would say it's feel probably in between the Novatouch with its own flip-out feet stowed and when they are deployed.
I understand. Looking at pictures, it looks like the CM Pro S is much 'flatter' at rest than the Novatouch. This picture
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/main-1_39aef87b-85ab-449f-ac27-cebd2dba8368_1024x1024.jpg?v=1503875966)
looks very similar to the angle of my CM Pro S with the feet deployed. Perhaps a touch lower angle but this is likely compensated for by the deeper case as you say.
I like my keyboards at an angle, a flat keyboard is a travesty. Worst case I can put some extra feet on of my own design.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81SsSJUmq8L._SL1500_.jpg)
CM Pro S without feet deployed.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1571/5135/products/main-1_39aef87b-85ab-449f-ac27-cebd2dba8368_2048x2048.jpg?v=1503875966)
Norbauer with the riser
Yours looks significantly steeper with the risers than the flat case without feet deployed. (This is a good thing from my point of view). Maybe not as steep as with the feet deployed but at least it's not flat.
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 28 August 2017, 15:11:34
I like my keyboards at an angle, a flat keyboard is a travesty. Worst case I can put some extra feet on of my own design.
Hehe. Yeah, I'm all about the travesty. I love my keyboards dead flat. But I know I'm in a minority, hence the riser feet. :rolleyes:
Yours looks significantly steeper with the risers than the flat case without feet deployed. (This is a good thing from my point of view). Maybe not as steep as with the feet deployed but at least it's not flat.
Yes, subjectively that feels right to me. All I can tell you from a technical perspective, however, is what the protractor tells me about the relative angles of the Novatouch face and my case's face with the risers installed. :)
Post by: zslane on Mon, 28 August 2017, 16:13:46
Hehe. Yeah, I'm all about the travesty. I love my keyboards dead flat. But I know I'm in a minority, hence the riser feet. :rolleyes:
I don't pull out the feet on my keyboards either, but that's mostly because I type on SA keycaps, and between their height and row sculpt, there's no need to lift the board up and increase the angle beyond the slight angle most keyboards have when lying flat.
Moreover, I rest my keyboards on a soft mat for its sound dampening benefits, and lifting the keyboard at an angle greatly reduces the amount of bottom surface area in contact with the mat.
Post by: TheEerieCold on Mon, 28 August 2017, 17:14:02
Hey Norbauer, I'm in the same boat as TheEerie Cold. This could be the case to get for Laser, as I havent seen anything that could be a good match with Laser's colors, except for the purple that TheEerieCold noted, and your Venice Beach Color.
A Purple Powder coat (maybe with some metallic fleck in it?) would be the hawtness!Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4416/36478554200_8120658ab5_b.jpg)
Oh lord, that purp! That color has some serious pop, as does the pink.
Post by: gregcake on Mon, 28 August 2017, 19:20:04
Any chance of a mild texture dark grey powder coat with a texture a la enigma black?QuoteI could probably add an r2.5 dark gray powder finish if folks are especially keen.HELLO GOOD SIR,
I wish to board the tactical grey hype train. Would be super keen for a grey powder finish.
+1 for a textured dark grey powder coat a la enigma black.
How about this one:Show Image(https://www.prismaticpowders.com/uploaded/public/final_pi_PTB-6696.jpg)Show Image(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/c135.0.809.809/16790194_381642165554863_1051595211685232640_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQ1NjAyNzEyMTczMDE3NDkyOA%3D%3D.2.c)
It would be a special-order powder, but if a at least 2-3 people ordered it, it would offset the expense enough to do it.
All these color terms are getting a bit overloaded, but we could call it "Enigma gray." ;)
THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN
Norbauer, do you think you could give me an approximate Pantone reference for the gray?
Cheers,
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 28 August 2017, 19:24:28
Any chance of a mild texture dark grey powder coat with a texture a la enigma black?QuoteI could probably add an r2.5 dark gray powder finish if folks are especially keen.HELLO GOOD SIR,
I wish to board the tactical grey hype train. Would be super keen for a grey powder finish.
+1 for a textured dark grey powder coat a la enigma black.
How about this one:Show Image(https://www.prismaticpowders.com/uploaded/public/final_pi_PTB-6696.jpg)Show Image(http://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/c135.0.809.809/16790194_381642165554863_1051595211685232640_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTQ1NjAyNzEyMTczMDE3NDkyOA%3D%3D.2.c)
It would be a special-order powder, but if a at least 2-3 people ordered it, it would offset the expense enough to do it.
All these color terms are getting a bit overloaded, but we could call it "Enigma gray." ;)
THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN
Norbauer, do you think you could give me an approximate Pantone reference for the gray?
Cheers,
Unfortunately, I don't have a physical sample, so I'm just going off the same images you guys have seen earlier in the thread. I could order a sample, but if my prior experience requesting powder samples from the supplier in the past is any indication, it likely wouldn't arrive before the GB ordering period is over.
I did run over to the powder shop today and got a sample of the metal-flaked purple today. I think it looks pretty cool. I'll take some pics shortly and post them ASAP.
Post by: Auk on Mon, 28 August 2017, 19:37:16
approximate Pantone reference for the gray?
Not possible, so I pulled an average out of the image. This is crude, but depending on how I do it I get 79, 79, 79 to 97, 97, 97 neutral gray, or a very slight bias to green + slight bias to blue (sorry I didn't make a note of the actual RGB values for each attempt.) Anyway, it seems to be neutral or cool gray.
Post by: afrokobe on Mon, 28 August 2017, 20:04:05
Here is my custom powder coat tiffany blue case from this round. Thanks so much Ryan!!!
Not sure how close this color is to the retro refrigerator color, Ill try for some pics in better light. (was too excited so I built it immediately)
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 28 August 2017, 20:07:33
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VnEG1xH.jpg)
Here is my custom powder coat tiffany blue case from this round. Thanks so much Ryan!!!
Not sure how close this color is to the retro refrigerator color, Ill try for some pics in better light. (was too excited so I built it immediately)
I was actually amazed by how close Tiffany Blue and Retro Refrigerator are! The main difference was that yours was matte whereas Retro is more like a medium gloss. I think Retro is also a tinge more green. Your photo makes the Tiffany color look more blue than I remember it, actually. In any case, thanks for posting the pics. Glad it arrived safely!
Post by: afrokobe on Mon, 28 August 2017, 20:11:50
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/VnEG1xH.jpg)
Here is my custom powder coat tiffany blue case from this round. Thanks so much Ryan!!!
Not sure how close this color is to the retro refrigerator color, Ill try for some pics in better light. (was too excited so I built it immediately)
I was actually amazed by how close Tiffany Blue and Retro Refrigerator are! The main difference was that yours was matte whereas Retro is more like a medium gloss. I think Retro is also a tinge more green. Your photo makes the Tiffany color look more blue than I remember it, actually. In any case, thanks for posting the pics. Glad it arrived safely!
Haha, if I had known I would have just picked retro refrigerator.
Post by: forumusername on Mon, 28 August 2017, 21:22:00
I believe originally the cases were going to be sent directly to oco but norbauer elected to personally inspect them prior. If this is correct have they been shipped to oco yet?
thanks in advance.
Post by: HighNoon on Mon, 28 August 2017, 21:26:07
Post by: autobot on Mon, 28 August 2017, 21:44:40
(Fingers crossed for medium gloss/no texture)
Post by: TheEerieCold on Mon, 28 August 2017, 21:56:43
What's the texture/gloss level on astrophysical purple?
(Fingers crossed for medium gloss/no texture)
From the picture sample it looks like it definitely has some texture.
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 28 August 2017, 22:06:35
What's the texture/gloss level on astrophysical purple?
(Fingers crossed for medium gloss/no texture)
From the picture sample it looks like it definitely has some texture.
There is actually no texture at all; that is just an illusion created by the metallic flecks. I'd say the gloss level is a sort of satin finish, but not completely flat.
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 28 August 2017, 22:09:06
I have tried to follow along the best I could forgive me if this has been answered.
I believe originally the cases were going to be sent directly to oco but norbauer elected to personally inspect them prior. If this is correct have they been shipped to oco yet?
thanks in advance.
That is correct, and yes, they are on their way to LA now. There was a slight shortfall from the factory for the Originative orders, however, so a few people will have to wait an extra week or two for theirs. I've been so busy today I haven't even had a chance to update Sheraton on all this yet. It's on my list for the evening. :confused:
Post by: autobot on Mon, 28 August 2017, 23:08:14
What's the texture/gloss level on astrophysical purple?
(Fingers crossed for medium gloss/no texture)
From the picture sample it looks like it definitely has some texture.
There is actually no texture at all; that is just an illusion created by the metallic flecks. I'd say the gloss level is a sort of satin finish, but not completely flat.
Sweeeeeet! Looks like I have a case for GMK Laser! :thumb:
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Tue, 29 August 2017, 00:15:54
(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/7hgQGY.jpg)
Many thanks Ryan, I lub it and can't wait to perform a transplant!
Post by: madindehead on Tue, 29 August 2017, 02:10:27
Also, norbauer, is it possible to order some riser feet separately this round? I don't think I will receive any with my Galactic Blue case, so would be great to have a spare set I can test with the case. Thanks!
Edit: My Galactic Blue has arrived in the UK! I hope it looks good :D
Something I meant to ask: How easy is it to transplant the keyboard into the new case? Never done something like this before...
Post by: MoebiuS451 on Tue, 29 August 2017, 05:25:36
I received a customs invoice of 68 eur (while this object is in category 8473.30.5100 that are exempt of custom duties). Ok, instead of filling a claim, I paid to be sure that the delivery will be fast...
You still have to pay your local EU sales tax on anything over €22, and sales tax applies to the postage cost as well. Allowing for a processing fee, €68 is correct on ~€300 (item+shipping price) of goods? Contact your local tax office to query it, if it wrong I'm sure they will refund you after you fill out a form and provide receipts etc.
I am catching up on the recent pages of the topic. I didn't knew that there was issues with anodized options. So I imagine that my ordred option is not still available.
The package was quoted 295 usd (259 usd + shipping).
There is no import fees on this category of material, only sometimes 20% VAT, so I should have had 295 usd x 20%, knowing that 295 worth 247 eur today, so 48 eur. And I got 68 eur ! Well... And to catch the right contact at the custom (DHL) offices, I would have to hire at least two secretaries for a week...
My main concern is that last time I got this kind of problem with a defective object received from overseas, I returned the original package and got a second time custom fees to pay for the replacement package. So imagine that I return the actual case (maybe 35 eur shipping) and got twice 68 eur of custom fees, that's a total of 171 eur ! That's around 200 usd today, and it is the price of the case I received :( That's quite raging and frustrating, and a waste of time and money for everybody.
Post by: Auk on Tue, 29 August 2017, 05:45:01
There is no import fees on this category of material, only sometimes 20% VAT, so I should have had 295 usd x 20%, knowing that 295 worth 247 eur today, so 48 eur.
VAT is unavoidable for goods like this, but I'm guessing DHL charged you 2% of total value + €15 for the 'privilege' of the them processing this through customs for you. It's a rip off and it sucks, but as far as I know Germany is the only country in the EU that pays any attention to international law and doesn't allow postal services to make greedy profits of import processing fees :(
For returning defective products overseas, either for refund or replacement,you must contact the tax office before you send the item and fill out the necessary forms. It's government so it could be slow, but as long as you do the paperwork you shouldn't end up out of pocket.
Post by: Auk on Tue, 29 August 2017, 05:50:49
I am catching up on the recent pages of the topic. I didn't knew that there was issues with anodized options. So I imagine that my ordred option is not still available.
For what it's worth: I think the case received looks good in the photograph, hopefully brushed will be as good. Ryan did say earlier in this thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88759.msg2399283#msg2399283) where the photos are posted that the brushed blue can look darker under shade vs the bead blasted, but brighter under direct light.
I'm sure he will figure out a good solution for you.
Post by: flyingalbatross1 on Tue, 29 August 2017, 05:51:24
If you are sending the item back, you CAN claim the VAT back.
Here is a guide and the forms for the UK http://www.myinternationalshopping.com/advice/reclaim-uk-customs-duty-vat-non-eu (http://www.myinternationalshopping.com/advice/reclaim-uk-customs-duty-vat-non-eu) but I understand you're not in the UK but you will get similar forms from your own country as it's in the EU.
Post by: madindehead on Tue, 29 August 2017, 07:06:43
That is the Galactic Blue. norbauer had posted earlier in this thread about the Galactic Blue case, and how it does look darker under normal lighting conditions. See this link here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88759.msg2460033#msg2460033
I ordered the same colour and mine looks like yours (at least colour wise it is similar). Mine is brushed however.
Post by: autobot on Tue, 29 August 2017, 07:51:09
Retro Refrigerator :eek:Show Image(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/7hgQGY.jpg)
Many thanks Ryan, I lub it and can't wait to perform a transplant!
So tasty! Does anybody have a retro fridge and GMK TU2-colored keycaps? I'd like to see a comparison. :)
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 29 August 2017, 10:54:02
That's quite raging and frustrating, and a waste of time and money for everybody.
Is it just me or, despite all this speculative raging in public, have you not yet actually emailed me to resolve this minor shipping mistake for you? Let me know if I missed a message somewhere.
Post by: zslane on Tue, 29 August 2017, 11:51:18
Edit: My Galactic Blue has arrived in the UK! I hope it looks good :D
Lucky dog!
I'm still waiting for a shipping notice. I think I doomed myself when I ordered three different colors...
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 29 August 2017, 11:52:08
Something I meant to ask: How easy is it to transplant the keyboard into the new case? Never done something like this before...
It's actually pretty easy--so much so that it occurs to me that I've never actually had to post any instructions yet. In general terms: 1) unscrew everything obvious, 2) move plate to new case, 3) screw everything obvious together.
To be more specific: you just take all the screws out of the bottom of the plastic case (you have to feel around, as a 1-2 of them--depending on which keyboard you have--are hidden beneath stickers). Then you pry apart the halves, which are just locked together using standard snap-fit injection-molded cantilever snaps. This can require a bit of force (and/or multiple screwdrivers inserted at once), but it's relatively straightforward. If you're impatient like me, it's possible to crack the plastic housing if you force it too much, but most people don't seem to care too much about this since the whole point of the exercise is to ditch that thing. ;) Then once you're inside, you have to unscrew from the front the screws that attach the plate to the bottom half of the plastic housing. You also have to take out the two tiny screws holding the white plastic USB bracket against the bottom of the plastic case. Remove the plate and the USB cable together and place them into the CNC case, pushing the black protruding part of USB bracket through its corresponding hole and screwing the "wings" of the USB bracket into place against the bottom of the CNC case with the two small button-head screws. Then plop the plate into the well of the CNC case and secure the plate against the bottom half of the CNC case by inserting the two flange screws in their corresponding holes. Put on the top of the case, flip over, and secure the two halves against each other with the eight socket-cap screws.
Easy enough. :) But just let me know if you hit any snags!
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 29 August 2017, 11:56:52
I'm still waiting for a shipping notice. I think I doomed myself when I ordered three different colors...
Hey zslane, I don't actually have the ability to match up your GH username to your order, but feel free to message me. By this point everyone should have heard from me either with a tracking number or a message to explain either a slight delay in their finish arriving. If you haven't, please let me know. I've noticed that messages from Shopify tend to get caught in spam filters, and I did send all of those notifications through Shopify rather than my personal email.
UPDATE: OK, a person who ordered three keyboards who is based in LA. I connected the dots. :) I did send you an update email the other day, so yeah, please check your spam folder. ;) Or just PM me if that message went into the ether somehow.
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 29 August 2017, 12:16:23
Retro Refrigerator :eek:Show Image(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/7hgQGY.jpg)
Many thanks Ryan, I lub it and can't wait to perform a transplant!
You are most exceedingly welcome! Thank you so much for your exceedingly kind support through this whole thread, MythicalWagyu. I'm so glad you like it! :)
Post by: millifoo on Tue, 29 August 2017, 12:32:53
Anyway, I've mocked up to the best of my ability how I hope Enigma Gray will look... more or less. The two "samples" embedded in the image both come from the Prismatic site, with a quick attempt at while balance. The sampes from prismatic appear to be taken with a flash - as such I suspect the "real" color will be somewhat darker.
(http://imgur.com/v6t8XQ9.jpg)
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 29 August 2017, 12:36:07
Ah-ha! Here's where you all are chatting. I've been over on reddit missing all the fun here.
Anyway, I've mocked up to the best of my ability how I hope Enigma Gray will look... more or less. The two "samples" embedded in the image both come from the Prismatic site, with a quick attempt at while balance. The sampes from prismatic appear to be taken with a flash - as such I suspect the "real" color will be somewhat darker.Show Image(http://imgur.com/v6t8XQ9.jpg)
Hey millifoo! I'm glad I was able to able to drag you over here to GH. Welcome!
I would agree that in practice the Enigma Gray could potentially look slightly darker than your mock-up, depending on the lighting environment, but I think that's a pretty great facsimile, especially of the texture. Somebody clearly knows his way around Photoshop.
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 29 August 2017, 12:38:18
Post by: pexon on Tue, 29 August 2017, 14:15:04
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 29 August 2017, 14:20:29
Hot damn, if the red comes out anything like a Ferrari block thats going to be epic. Please stop it Norbauer, you're making me wanting to spend way too much :))
lol. Sorry; figuring out how to get interesting colors and finishes is my favorite part of these projects!
The Monte Carlo Red powder is actually used to repair and refinish actual Ferraris. It was recommended to me by the powder shop, which primarily specializes in serving people who do all sorts of fancy automotive customizations.
Post by: pexon on Tue, 29 August 2017, 14:39:11
Post by: autobot on Tue, 29 August 2017, 14:43:31
Red Alert, Honeywell, WoB, BoW, Classic :eek:
Post by: forumusername on Tue, 29 August 2017, 15:51:52
I have read what you've said concerning the OCO orders (thanks for answering my question yesterday).
I wonder how I can ensure that my individual order within the orders to OCO was not effected and is en route to me.
Sorry if I haven't pieced this together correctly but I'm getting a little bit antsy since everyone appears to have tracking information or some other communication from you by now. Cheers
Post by: pootsounds on Tue, 29 August 2017, 16:30:13
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 29 August 2017, 16:31:22
Norbauer Thank you for constantly communicating and taking extra care with this GB.
I have read what you've said concerning the OCO orders (thanks for answering my question yesterday).
I wonder how I can ensure that my individual order within the orders to OCO was not effected and is en route to me.
Sorry if I haven't pieced this together correctly but I'm getting a little bit antsy since everyone appears to have tracking information or some other communication from you by now. Cheers
The cases are probably arriving to Originative today, since it's just a trip from SF to LA. I would just give them a couple of extra days to let you know the status of your order.
Post by: pootsounds on Tue, 29 August 2017, 18:51:35
I have tried to follow along the best I could forgive me if this has been answered.
I believe originally the cases were going to be sent directly to oco but norbauer elected to personally inspect them prior. If this is correct have they been shipped to oco yet?
thanks in advance.
That is correct, and yes, they are on their way to LA now. There was a slight shortfall from the factory for the Originative orders, however, so a few people will have to wait an extra week or two for theirs. I've been so busy today I haven't even had a chance to update Sheraton on all this yet. It's on my list for the evening. :confused:
If you can, could you elaborate on the short fall? Was it a specific color or just a few cases? I ordered a black from them after the gb was over so I'm guessing that I'm on the far end of the priority list. Just curious, I don't mind the wait.
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 29 August 2017, 19:52:35
I have tried to follow along the best I could forgive me if this has been answered.
I believe originally the cases were going to be sent directly to oco but norbauer elected to personally inspect them prior. If this is correct have they been shipped to oco yet?
thanks in advance.
That is correct, and yes, they are on their way to LA now. There was a slight shortfall from the factory for the Originative orders, however, so a few people will have to wait an extra week or two for theirs. I've been so busy today I haven't even had a chance to update Sheraton on all this yet. It's on my list for the evening. :confused:
If you can, could you elaborate on the short fall? Was it a specific color or just a few cases? I ordered a black from them after the gb was over so I'm guessing that I'm on the far end of the priority list. Just curious, I don't mind the wait.
The factory simply didn't send enough cases, but they have replacements on the way. They were only one black case short, so you would only have to wait a bit longer if you were the very last person in the queue.
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Tue, 29 August 2017, 21:09:55
(https://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/Fnzvzz.jpg)
More
(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/f4tbBj.jpg)
(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/Wb7Lug.jpg)
(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/0nKGXs.jpg)
(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/Wb7Lug.jpg)
(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/0nKGXs.jpg)
Post by: clappingcactus on Tue, 29 August 2017, 22:14:14
Retro Refridgerator (here)
Novatouch (here)
BKE Domes (in the mail)
KBDfans Silencing Rings (in the mail)
Keycaps (abyss in the mail, oblivion being ordered on the 31st)
Still such a long way off until this particular build is complete.
I'm looking at maybe one more two mods:
Foam for the bottom of the case. I've seen people use Dynamat and EP0M foam. Anyone have any suggestions as to other options or whether either of those that I already mentioned are a bad idea? Someone in another thread said they managed to get a 1mm thick piece of foam in the case, but I feel like I can sneak in more.
I'm thinking of combining the Hasu USB-to-USB controller with the magnetic USB from earlier in the thread, but has anyone tested if the Hasu can fit inside the case in addition to the controller and USB port already in there? I guess I can always manually check once I have my case open, but I wanted to see if anyone has already tried. It would be kind of kickass to just have magnetic USB receivers at home and at work and just slide my keyboard into place to be used, fully reprogrammed and ready.
Post by: consolation on Wed, 30 August 2017, 01:49:30
edit - my bad, I measured an off cut, it's ~2mm thick - generic open cell, dense acoustic foam; you can get it by the roll from China. I really doubt you'll get a noticable difference with expensive stuff; but, if someone can prove otherwise - I'd be keen to see your results.
Post by: pexon on Wed, 30 August 2017, 03:22:01
Post by: yonghf on Wed, 30 August 2017, 04:46:47
(http://i.imgur.com/qIYIjJn.jpg)
Post by: MoebiuS451 on Wed, 30 August 2017, 09:09:53
That's quite raging and frustrating, and a waste of time and money for everybody.
Is it just me or, despite all this speculative raging in public, have you not yet actually emailed me to resolve this minor shipping mistake for you? Let me know if I missed a message somewhere.
Hi,
I do not understand the content and tone of this answer but OK. Keep in mind that we have 10 hours jet lag, that I'm not a native english speaker, and that at work I do not have the documents or the physical package on hand.
This topic was indicated in its first page as the entry point for GB tracking and follow-up.
So be it. I send you an email.
Post by: child on Wed, 30 August 2017, 10:30:27
Round 2.5 now has its own proper thread now (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91292.0) (just approved a few moments ago). Perhaps let's move discussion of r2.5 over there, and this thread can serve for feedback and questions concerning r2.
Too bad I won't even get a chance to take a look at my round 2 case before round 2.5 ends :(
Post by: zslane on Wed, 30 August 2017, 12:26:36
I really doubt you'll get a noticable difference with expensive stuff; but, if someone can prove otherwise - I'd be keen to see your results.
I don't know if there would be any difference between "cheap" and "expensive" stuff either, but I can say that putting 2.5mm sorbothane rubber sheets/strips--which I imagine qualifies as expensive--inside my walnut Datamancer 60% case did wonders for killing the high-frequency echo that was emanating from inside it. Sorbothane is also very heavy, and it added a nice heft to an otherwise light case.
But I don't feel any of that is necessary for a NovaTouch inside one of these Norbauer cases. If you add silencing rings to the sliders, the keyboard doesn't make any noise except the thock that we all know and love.
Post by: NJDEN on Wed, 30 August 2017, 14:06:55
I got my board this morning as I was walking out of the house. After quickly trying to assemble it before leaving I noticed the screws from the original plastic case won't work for holding in the plastic USB bracket into the new case since they are too small. I didn't see any screws included with the case other than the ones used to hold the two haves together. If there are some included screws I might have just missed them as I was in a rush to leave this morning. If not, what screw size do I need since I'm pretty sure the ones from the keyboard will not fit.
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 30 August 2017, 14:48:20
This might be an incredibly stupid question, but... are the screws for holding down the plastic USB bracket, and screws for anchoring the board into the case included with the kit, or do we need to use the screws from the plastic case?
I got my board this morning as I was walking out of the house. After quickly trying to assemble it before leaving I noticed the screws from the original plastic case won't work for holding in the plastic USB bracket into the new case since they are too small. I didn't see any screws included with the case other than the ones used to hold the two haves together. If there are some included screws I might have just missed them as I was in a rush to leave this morning. If not, what screw size do I need since I'm pretty sure the ones from the keyboard will not fit.
Not at all a stupid question! There should be two small button-head screws included in the poly-bagged packet of parts, which is in a slot in the foam of the box (perhaps easy to miss). You should use those to fasten the USB bracket to the CNC case and not the ones that came with your Cooler Master case. If for some reason those screws were omitted when your hardware kit got packed, just let me know and I can send you replacements.
These are the screws, btw: https://www.mcmaster.com/#94500a221/=1963kwz
Post by: Phinnegan on Wed, 30 August 2017, 15:46:38
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 30 August 2017, 17:55:53
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/79oUwf9.jpg)
Nice! Love the complementary keys and cable.
Post by: NJDEN on Wed, 30 August 2017, 18:16:19
This might be an incredibly stupid question, but... are the screws for holding down the plastic USB bracket, and screws for anchoring the board into the case included with the kit, or do we need to use the screws from the plastic case?
I got my board this morning as I was walking out of the house. After quickly trying to assemble it before leaving I noticed the screws from the original plastic case won't work for holding in the plastic USB bracket into the new case since they are too small. I didn't see any screws included with the case other than the ones used to hold the two haves together. If there are some included screws I might have just missed them as I was in a rush to leave this morning. If not, what screw size do I need since I'm pretty sure the ones from the keyboard will not fit.
Not at all a stupid question! There should be two small button-head screws included in the poly-bagged packet of parts, which is in a slot in the foam of the box (perhaps easy to miss). You should use those to fasten the USB bracket to the CNC case and not the ones that came with your Cooler Master case. If for some reason those screws were omitted when your hardware kit got packed, just let me know and I can send you replacements.
These are the screws, btw: https://www.mcmaster.com/#94500a221/=1963kwz
I'm not seeing the screws unfortunately. I checked in that slit in the packing material as well as the ground where I opened the box. If these are pretty standard screws that can be bought from a hardware store I can totally do that; however, if they are specialized then you might have the ship them out.
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 30 August 2017, 18:17:51
This might be an incredibly stupid question, but... are the screws for holding down the plastic USB bracket, and screws for anchoring the board into the case included with the kit, or do we need to use the screws from the plastic case?
I got my board this morning as I was walking out of the house. After quickly trying to assemble it before leaving I noticed the screws from the original plastic case won't work for holding in the plastic USB bracket into the new case since they are too small. I didn't see any screws included with the case other than the ones used to hold the two haves together. If there are some included screws I might have just missed them as I was in a rush to leave this morning. If not, what screw size do I need since I'm pretty sure the ones from the keyboard will not fit.
Not at all a stupid question! There should be two small button-head screws included in the poly-bagged packet of parts, which is in a slot in the foam of the box (perhaps easy to miss). You should use those to fasten the USB bracket to the CNC case and not the ones that came with your Cooler Master case. If for some reason those screws were omitted when your hardware kit got packed, just let me know and I can send you replacements.
These are the screws, btw: https://www.mcmaster.com/#94500a221/=1963kwz
I'm not seeing the screws unfortunately. I checked in that slit in the packing material as well as the ground where I opened the box. If these are pretty standard screws that can be bought from a hardware store I can totally do that; however, if they are specialized then you might have the ship them out.
Might as well save you the trouble and send them to you. I'm happy to do so. Just send me a PM with your order number.
Post by: richard912 on Thu, 31 August 2017, 06:20:33
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 31 August 2017, 11:27:11
My Aerospace Alu arrived. Love the build and the heft of the case. Alas, the pair of feet are missing the rubber/silicone ends though. Also missing the hex screws for the USB connector and flange screws. Appreciate if you could make arrangements to send them to me too. I've PM you my order number.
Oops. Sorry about that. When doing my inspection, I focused almost exclusively on the cases. Looks like the folks who packed the other side of the case had a few misses, so I probably should have looked at that side more closely too. I'll arrange replacements with you directly.
Post by: cmc on Thu, 31 August 2017, 19:53:31
This is the Galaxy Blue brushed case with Nantucket Selectric:
(http://i.imgur.com/GdpYrs4.jpg)
I think the blue in Nantucket Selectric is a bit too warm for the case, but I've always planned on putting Dasher or Dancer on this keyboard anyway, so I hope they'll be a better match. Assuming that they do, this keyboard will have reached endgame.
There were a couple of tiny dings and some minor scratches on the inside of the case, but everything you can actually see looks great!
I'm not hearing any particular change in the sound, for better or for worse.
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 31 August 2017, 19:57:11
There were a couple of tiny dings and some minor scratches on the inside of the case, but everything you can actually see looks great!
Thanks! Yes, I intentionally exclude the hidden surfaces of the case from the inspection criteria because such things are never seen in use—and not including them in the QC criteria actually helps keep the cost down by decreasing the reject rate. :)
Post by: losthumans on Thu, 31 August 2017, 20:56:51
Few quick shots of the 'fridge post-transplant:Stunning.Show Image(https://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/Fnzvzz.jpg)MoreShow Image(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/f4tbBj.jpg)Show Image(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/Wb7Lug.jpg)Show Image(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/0nKGXs.jpg)
Post by: robotsokk on Thu, 31 August 2017, 23:24:42
Few quick shots of the 'fridge post-transplant:Stunning.Show Image(https://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/Fnzvzz.jpg)MoreShow Image(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/f4tbBj.jpg)Show Image(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/Wb7Lug.jpg)Show Image(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/0nKGXs.jpg)
Agreed. Such a lovely case and pairing of keyset + case (never thought of Hyperfuse SA + Retro Refrigerator). Bravo :thumb:
Post by: MoebiuS451 on Fri, 01 September 2017, 01:07:22
LLAP ;)
Post by: DreLLin on Fri, 01 September 2017, 01:55:55
Post by: cmc on Fri, 01 September 2017, 02:10:25
Thanks! Yes, I intentionally exclude the hidden surfaces of the case from the inspection criteria because such things are never seen in use—and not including them in the QC criteria actually helps keep the cost down by decreasing the reject rate. :)
Honestly, if the ding were visible, I'd just touch it with an appropriately colored Sharpie and it would disappear. The only way I even saw these things was by looking for them with a bright light. It's really beautiful.
Question: There were four screws in the baggie. The two small ones were perfect for the USB port clip, but what are the two wider, more domed, screws for?
I'm looking forward to you doing a case for my Realforce RGB now! :)
Post by: fine_italian_leather on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:22:38
Question: There were four screws in the baggie. The two small ones were perfect for the USB port clip, but what are the two wider, more domed, screws for?
It's for screwing the plate into the bottom part of the case.
Post by: clappingcactus on Fri, 01 September 2017, 07:23:12
(http://i.imgur.com/ftRqHGx.jpg)
Post by: autobot on Fri, 01 September 2017, 13:56:28
Disclaimer: I've bought into keycap group buys, but this is my first mechanical aluminum keyboard/case group buy purchase. I bought this with my own money. And pardon my potato pics!
Norbauer's CM TKL Case is functional art. Period.
The user experience of this product, from unboxing, to assembly, to typing this review is nothing short of stellar.
Packaging alone had passers-by at work stopping in their tracks to ask what it is. Very premium. The case fits so well in the tray carrier, there's a slight vacuum effect, and whistles when you pull the case out. So satisfying!!!
Aluminum texture is slightly rougher than on an Apple product, and the finish is bright, lively, and clean.
The fit of the plate/PCB is amazing. The fit of the USB port is fantastic. The design for assembly even allows me to really dial in how the two halves align for sticklers like myself. Stick some foam in this, and you'd swear the keys just go into a solid block of aluminum (because it is!!!). No pinging, everything is just S O L I D & T H I C K.
Wow, wow, wow. Just wow. THIS is how luxury keyboard products should be.
My only nitpick (and this is me reaching for something) is the riser feet grind the case a bit on the last bit of turn. Maybe include a die cut clear plastic/film (think transparency sheet) washer for run 2.5?
So, if you are a Mechanical Keyboard enthusiast and you don't have one of these, and are contemplating... buy one. Or two. Or three. Norbauer is running GB 2.5 for this, and I don't think he wants to run another round after this, so buy one, or risk paying through the nose for one, if anybody even wants to part with theirs. You won't get any of mine! :p
Overall: 9.9/10
Bravo Norbauer, you have a lifelong customer. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4335/36776487146_1235c2fde8_b.jpg)
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Post by: Blazestorm on Fri, 01 September 2017, 14:12:00
(http://i.imgur.com/Rvz72t2.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9fiwK2c.jpg)
It only looks like that from certain angles, otherwise it's a very deep blue. (Galactic Blue - Brushed)
Post by: Auk on Fri, 01 September 2017, 14:24:34
Oops, I was on the wrong thread...
...(Galactic Blue - Brushed)
Too many threads for these cases now, maybe R1 could be locked?
Nice to see the brushed version at last :) Which keycap set do you have in the photo?
Post by: Blazestorm on Fri, 01 September 2017, 15:01:35
Post by: Auk on Fri, 01 September 2017, 16:50:07
That one is DSA LightCycle (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=87050.0)
Thanks :thumb:
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 01 September 2017, 16:54:57
Too many threads for these cases now, maybe R1 could be locked?
Done. Thanks for the suggestion!
What is happening with the Tactical Gray cases that didn't pass muster? Are those going to be stripped of the anodizing and reused for the powder coat?
For those who opted for a powder-upgrade replacement rather than a refund, that is correct. This should allow me to turn around the replacements faster than waiting for 2.5 to be completed (with perhaps the exception of people who chose finishes specific to r2.5 that are special-order from the powder company such as Astrophysical Purple). I did this before with cases from r1 that had anodizing blemishes, so I know it works perfectly. The cases get bead-blasted before powder coating anyway as part of the normal prep process, and the (relatively very thin) anodizing layer just incidentally gets blasted away during that process.
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 01 September 2017, 17:01:49
So...I'll post a review of this...
Disclaimer: I've bought into keycap group buys, but this is my first mechanical aluminum keyboard/case group buy purchase. I bought this with my own money. And pardon my potato pics!
Norbauer's CM TKL Case is functional art. Period.
The user experience of this product, from unboxing, to assembly, to typing this review is nothing short of stellar.
Packaging alone had passers-by at work stopping in their tracks to ask what it is. Very premium. The case fits so well in the tray carrier, there's a slight vacuum effect, and whistles when you pull the case out. So satisfying!!!
Aluminum texture is slightly rougher than on an Apple product, and the finish is bright, lively, and clean.
The fit of the plate/PCB is amazing. The fit of the USB port is fantastic. The design for assembly even allows me to really dial in how the two halves align for sticklers like myself. Stick some foam in this, and you'd swear the keys just go into a solid block of aluminum (because it is!!!). No pinging, everything is just S O L I D & T H I C K.
Wow, wow, wow. Just wow. THIS is how luxury keyboard products should be.
My only nitpick (and this is me reaching for something) is the riser feet grind the case a bit on the last bit of turn. Maybe include a die cut clear plastic/film (think transparency sheet) washer for run 2.5?
So, if you are a Mechanical Keyboard enthusiast and you don't have one of these, and are contemplating... buy one. Or two. Or three. Norbauer is running GB 2.5 for this, and I don't think he wants to run another round after this, so buy one, or risk paying through the nose for one, if anybody even wants to part with theirs. You won't get any of mine! :p
Overall: 9.9/10
Bravo Norbauer, you have a lifelong customer. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4335/36776487146_1235c2fde8_b.jpg)Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4377/36776484056_b5e27115c9_b.jpg)Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4370/36776485726_b26cd31f45_b.jpg)Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4384/36776482256_a4413d813f_b.jpg)Show Image(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4427/36776481456_7a1a6f6c53_b.jpg)
Oh man. Thank you so much for that incredibly fantastic review! :D The prospect of making even just a few people happy like this is precisely the reason I do these things, stressful though they may sometimes be. I really do personally view these projects as artistic exercises, so for you to call the case "functional art" is really enormously gratifying for me. Thank again, so much!!
Your idea on the rubber feet is a great one; I'll investigate!
Post by: pexon on Fri, 01 September 2017, 18:11:46
(https://i.imgur.com/C60t6On.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Jpg1tQ4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/B4SeNt6.jpg)
Must say Ryan, the engineering, design and finish is superb!
Post by: losthumans on Fri, 01 September 2017, 18:48:54
Post by: autobot on Fri, 01 September 2017, 18:52:17
Oh man. Thank you so much for that incredibly fantastic review! :D The prospect of making eventual just a few people happy like this is precisely the reason I do these things, stressful though they may sometimes be. I really do personally view these projects as artistic exercises, so for you to call the case "functional art" is really enormously gratifying for me. Thank again, so much!!
Your idea on the rubber feet is a great one; I'll investigate!
You're very welcome! The highest praises are very well deserved!
I actually planned to leave work early today, and actually stayed till the end of the day so I could use my "Norbafuse" board, responding to non-urgent emails, spinning CAD around, and internet browsing. This is going to be a beast of a daily driver. :)
I'd loooove if you made a matching numpad case! ::nudge Leopold w/ micro USB port pcb nudge:: :)
Post by: autobot on Fri, 01 September 2017, 18:53:21
Managed to get my case installed and finished a few mods on my Novatouch, here are some quick and dirty photos.... better ones tomorrow :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/C60t6On.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Jpg1tQ4.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/B4SeNt6.jpg)
Must say Ryan, the engineering, design and finish is superb!
That's a tasty combination there!
Post by: Blazestorm on Fri, 01 September 2017, 20:19:49
Oh man. Thank you so much for that incredibly fantastic review! :D The prospect of making even just a few people happy like this is precisely the reason I do these things, stressful though they may sometimes be. I really do personally view these projects as artistic exercises, so for you to call the case "functional art" is really enormously gratifying for me. Thank again, so much!!
Your idea on the rubber feet is a great one; I'll investigate!
I'd echo the same sentiments as autobot, nicely done, looking forward to the RF87 case.
My (minor) suggestions for improvement:
1.) Would definitely try to mitigate the grinding feet :D, I saw the aluminum and knew it would grind, but didn't want wobbly feet either so I tightened it down a bit. I haven't unscrewed to check for damage, but I wouldn't ever use this in the "flat" position either.
2.) Other suggestion was to more accurately match the bump-on locations to the size of the bump-ons you're going to provide. The holes/divets are slightly larger than the bump-ons and you can't really get them centered properly (seen on pexon's picture of the feet). Functionally they work fine, just aesthetically they're off a bit.
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 01 September 2017, 20:25:03
Oh man. Thank you so much for that incredibly fantastic review! :D The prospect of making even just a few people happy like this is precisely the reason I do these things, stressful though they may sometimes be. I really do personally view these projects as artistic exercises, so for you to call the case "functional art" is really enormously gratifying for me. Thank again, so much!!
Your idea on the rubber feet is a great one; I'll investigate!
I'd echo the same sentiments as autobot, nicely done, looking forward to the RF87 case.
My (minor) suggestions for improvement:
1.) Would definitely try to mitigate the grinding feet :D, I saw the aluminum and knew it would grind, but didn't want wobbly feet either so I tightened it down a bit. I haven't unscrewed to check for damage, but I wouldn't ever use this in the "flat" position either.
2.) Other suggestion was to more accurately match the bump-on locations to the size of the bump-ons you're going to provide. The holes/divets are slightly larger than the bump-ons and you can't really get them centered properly (seen on pexon's picture of the feet). Functionally they work fine, just aesthetically they're off a bit.
Awesome. Thanks for the kind words. :D
#1. If you ground it in hard, there probably is a little circular mark there. I figured if people were going to use feet that they wouldn't be too worried about a circle in a hidden spot on the case--especially one that is extra-not-visible when the riser feet are in use, but all the same I don't mind investigating some kind of rubber washer as a buffer.
#2 is intentional. I have to leave clearance for the powder coated cases, as the powder tends to collect in those corners and significantly reduce the diameter. The current numbers were based on quite a few tests and are a compromise between the best anodizing and powder sizes.
Post by: cmc on Fri, 01 September 2017, 20:51:34
Too many threads for these cases now, maybe R1 could be locked?
Nice to see the brushed version at last :) Which keycap set do you have in the photo?
Hey! Mine (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88759.msg2484121#msg2484121 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88759.msg2484121#msg2484121)) is also the brushed Galaxy Blue. The color really does appear to shift a lot depending on the lighting.
Post by: Blazestorm on Fri, 01 September 2017, 21:03:14
Awesome. Thanks for the kind words. :D
#1. If you ground it in hard, there probably is a little circular mark there. I figured if people were going to use feet that they wouldn't be too worried about a circle in a hidden spot on the case--especially one that is extra-not-visible when the riser feet are in use, but all the same I don't mind investigating some kind of rubber washer as a buffer.
#2 is intentional. I have to leave clearance for the powder coated cases, as the powder tends to collect in those corners and significantly reduce the diameter. The current numbers were based on quite a few tests and are a compromise between the best anodizing and powder sizes.
For #1, it's more about "I don't want to damage the $250 case I just bought" even if you can't see it when you're using the feet. I don't mind all the marks in-between the two halves, like you said, you really can never see those. But in this scenario, you *could* see the marks if you ever remove the feet and switch to a flat orientation.
#2 makes sense, I figured it was related to some kind of coating, I was only thinking about the anodized cases =)
Too many threads for these cases now, maybe R1 could be locked?
Nice to see the brushed version at last :) Which keycap set do you have in the photo?
Hey! Mine (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88759.msg2484121#msg2484121 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88759.msg2484121#msg2484121)) is also the brushed Galaxy Blue. The color really does appear to shift a lot depending on the lighting.
Need a bigger picture, that one is tiny =)
Post by: Auk on Sat, 02 September 2017, 08:18:25
Hey! Mine (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88759.msg2484121#msg2484121 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88759.msg2484121#msg2484121)) is also the brushed Galaxy Blue. The color really does appear to shift a lot depending on the lighting.
Sorry, missed that detail in the text.
Post by: poolside on Sat, 02 September 2017, 11:09:46
Managed to get my case installed and finished a few mods on my Novatouch, here are some quick and dirty photos.... better ones tomorrow :)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/C60t6On.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Jpg1tQ4.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/B4SeNt6.jpg)
Must say Ryan, the engineering, design and finish is superb!
Very nice :thumb:
I had the same combo in mind for my case. I am eager to see how that dark blue looks like in person.
Alright, one more to the fold (wanted to catch some pretty SA reflections and as many shades as possible of the case in different lightings at the same time, so, sorry for the harsh light):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ftRqHGx.jpg)
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Are these little specks on the lower part of the bezel due to the powder-coating process?
Post by: pexon on Sat, 02 September 2017, 16:14:07
(https://i.imgur.com/o0jrovg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4bUqkXR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GXExKLx.jpg)
Post by: MythicalWagyu on Sat, 02 September 2017, 16:24:19
Promised some more photos !Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/o0jrovg.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/4bUqkXR.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/GXExKLx.jpg)
Post by: pexon on Sat, 02 September 2017, 16:28:11
Post by: Auk on Sat, 02 September 2017, 18:15:07
...The cases get bead-blasted before powder coating anyway as part of the normal prep process, and the (relatively very thin) anodizing layer just incidentally gets blasted away during that process.
Thanks. I was curious about how the paint shop would handle prep for this. I've read too many regrets on PC case modding discussions where people went cheap and their fresh powder coat chipped off the slightest knock.
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 02 September 2017, 18:23:27
...The cases get bead-blasted before powder coating anyway as part of the normal prep process, and the (relatively very thin) anodizing layer just incidentally gets blasted away during that process.
Thanks. I was curious about how the paint shop would handle prep for this. I've read too many regrets on PC case modding discussions where people went cheap and their fresh powder coat chipped off the slightest knock.
Bead-blasting for powder coating should use a much more aggressive (higher particle size) medium that fine finish blasting for anodizing. The rougher media leaves more "tooth" in the aluminum surface for the powder to grab onto.
Post by: Auk on Sat, 02 September 2017, 18:41:01
Bead-blasting for powder coating should use a much more aggressive (higher particle size) medium that fine finish blasting for anodizing. The rougher media leaves more "tooth" in the aluminum surface for the powder to grab onto.
I tried to find some old examples of the poor paint jobs and failed, but I did stumble onto this (http://www.pfonline.com/articles/powder-over-anodized-aluminum) comment. It shouldn't really be a problem with a conscientious and professional paint shop doing their thing.
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 02 September 2017, 18:42:02
Bead-blasting for powder coating should use a much more aggressive (higher particle size) medium that fine finish blasting for anodizing. The rougher media leaves more "tooth" in the aluminum surface for the powder to grab onto.
I tried to find some old examples of the poor paint jobs and failed, but I did stumble onto this (http://www.pfonline.com/articles/powder-over-anodized-aluminum) comment. It shouldn't really be a problem with a conscientious and professional paint shop doing their thing.
I would also agree with that statement. :)
Post by: consolation on Sat, 02 September 2017, 21:05:23
Alright, one more to the fold (wanted to catch some pretty SA reflections and as many shades as possible of the case in different lightings at the same time, so, sorry for the harsh light):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ftRqHGx.jpg)
That's gorgeous, that's as close to a perfect match as you will ever find.
Post by: clappingcactus on Sat, 02 September 2017, 21:36:22
Are these little specks on the lower part of the bezel due to the powder-coating process?
Those are just pieces of dust. I tried my best to stamp out any dust in photoshop but forgot to do the keyboard itself (focused on the keycaps).
If you want examples of what the powder-coating looks like, check these:
(http://i.imgur.com/pKIYuwu.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/qmzcU3F.jpg)
That's gorgeous, that's as close to a perfect match as you will ever find.
Indoors, the keycaps that came with bright green cap (and navy text) look identical in colour. Outdoors in bright sunlight, you can tell there's like a single shade of difference. But once the green is used as a legend it's impossible to tell. It is perfect. I highly recommend this combo!
Post by: pootsounds on Sat, 02 September 2017, 21:51:31
Just got my shipping notification from Originative! Stoked!
It's gonna be a long week brother...
Post by: losthumans on Sat, 02 September 2017, 23:26:22
Hah no doubt!Just got my shipping notification from Originative! Stoked!
It's gonna be a long week brother...
Post by: pvd on Sun, 03 September 2017, 00:27:50
What type/brand of foam are you all using to silence ping inside the case? I'm not sure what kind to buy.
Post by: elcubismo on Sun, 03 September 2017, 01:10:19
Post by: floris on Sun, 03 September 2017, 05:42:47
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Post by: autobot on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:25:24
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4346/36194483803_b68969df3e_b.jpg)
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Post by: zslane on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:27:35
Build mine with a max key keyset.
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That looks really slick, floris! :thumb:
Post by: norbauer on Sun, 03 September 2017, 11:44:27
Post by: pvd on Sun, 03 September 2017, 12:00:10
Gonna be a while before I can do it, but my plan was to go with this guide (http://imgur.com/a/YdH00)
Thanks! I was looking for something like this.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002XMOUSG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This appears to be the brand of drawer liner he used, the size, price, and appearance match.
Post by: elcubismo on Sun, 03 September 2017, 12:43:04
Gonna be a while before I can do it, but my plan was to go with this guide (http://imgur.com/a/YdH00)
Thanks! I was looking for something like this.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002XMOUSG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This appears to be the brand of drawer liner he used, the size, price, and appearance match.
Yes, that's the exact one I got. Already have it and put some in my fc660c. The roll comes with plenty.
Post by: zslane on Sun, 03 September 2017, 12:46:27
Post by: jimmydosveces on Sun, 03 September 2017, 12:50:29
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Post by: panzermuffin on Sun, 03 September 2017, 13:26:40
Post by: autobot on Sun, 03 September 2017, 20:12:50
Wow. Thanks for sharing these beautiful photos, floris and autobot!
You're welcome! :)
Post by: diqkiq on Sun, 03 September 2017, 20:18:20
Alright, one more to the fold (wanted to catch some pretty SA reflections and as many shades as possible of the case in different lightings at the same time, so, sorry for the harsh light):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ftRqHGx.jpg)
What keyset is that?
Post by: Peiweisgreat on Sun, 03 September 2017, 20:56:06
Post by: nineleveno on Sun, 03 September 2017, 22:28:55
Alright, one more to the fold (wanted to catch some pretty SA reflections and as many shades as possible of the case in different lightings at the same time, so, sorry for the harsh light):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ftRqHGx.jpg)
What keyset is that?
That's Abyss SA from Keyboard Therapy: http://keyboardtherapy.bigcartel.com/product/asa (http://keyboardtherapy.bigcartel.com/product/asa)
Post by: diqkiq on Sun, 03 September 2017, 22:35:22
Thanks. Looks really goodAlright, one more to the fold (wanted to catch some pretty SA reflections and as many shades as possible of the case in different lightings at the same time, so, sorry for the harsh light):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ftRqHGx.jpg)
What keyset is that?
That's Abyss SA from Keyboard Therapy: http://keyboardtherapy.bigcartel.com/product/asa (http://keyboardtherapy.bigcartel.com/product/asa)
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Post by: FSund on Mon, 04 September 2017, 00:47:13
Gonna be a while before I can do it, but my plan was to go with this guide (http://imgur.com/a/YdH00)
Anyone know what kind of material he's using? I tried searching Amazon and eBay, but couldn't find anything that looked like the same material.
Post by: pootsounds on Mon, 04 September 2017, 07:08:22
zslane have you used it for this purpose? What thickness would you recommend?
Post by: losthumans on Mon, 04 September 2017, 09:30:01
I have purchased and used XCEL neoprene ordered off Amazon. It's 1/4 or 1/8 inch thick sheets, dirt cheap compared to any specialty material and I'm sure 99% as effective. You can get a roll that's enough to do 10 boards for less than what the specialty sheets cost.Gonna be a while before I can do it, but my plan was to go with this guide (http://imgur.com/a/YdH00)
Anyone know what kind of material he's using? I tried searching Amazon and eBay, but couldn't find anything that looked like the same material.
Please note any brand will work I only added the brand name of what I've ordered in the past for ease of looking up.
Post by: zslane on Mon, 04 September 2017, 10:50:59
zslane recommended sorbothane which is available on amazon under the name "Isolate It".
zslane have you used it for this purpose? What thickness would you recommend?
I used a single 1/10" sheet, which I cut into the necessary shapes, to fill the bottom of a walnut Datamancer case for one of my Pok3rs:
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Without the sorbothane, the bottom-out and upstroke noise would echo inside the case in a really unappealing way. The sorbothane pretty much killed that noise dead, and now you can hear the light click of the MX blues more clearly since it is no longer drowned out by all that other noise. It also added a nice bit of extra weight to the keyboard (sorbothane is surprisingly dense and heavy, and the walnut case was surprisingly light).
I also used the same stuff in the bottom of a Lambo 60% case that houses my KBP V60 mini (with LightCycle DSA keycaps), though to be honest, it really didn't need it.
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 04 September 2017, 13:57:11
Ryan, do you have any updates on Tactical Gray replacement eta? I know the special order powders could be longer/unknown, but curious if the cases have been sent off for finish removal.
Yes, they were dropped off last week. Beyond that, I would say a month or less, though with shop it's highly variable and sometimes hard to predict. The Retro Refrigerator and Enigma Black should be the fastest, as those are colors they carry in stock.
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 04 September 2017, 14:00:25
So as someone who isn't going to find a novatouch anytime soon, can anyone with the regular cm pro s boards tell me how well this case works with your board? Anything I should know before I jump onto this hypetrain?
The plate is the same. In addition to my testing, many folks have used it with that keyboard without reporting any problems.
For example, here is a Reddit thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6nmbgy/another_week_another_keeb/)
(https://i.redd.it/biurly5lmy9z.jpg)
Post by: pexon on Mon, 04 September 2017, 16:24:58
(https://i.imgur.com/HTLmi44.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/mbfFcHH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lHSOozq.jpg)
GMK Honeywell on a Rapid-i with Kailh Speed Coppers and a Monte Carlo Red Norbauer :)
Post by: Auk on Mon, 04 September 2017, 16:47:46
GMK Honeywell on... ...Monte Carlo Red
That is superb.
Post by: poolside on Mon, 04 September 2017, 16:57:18
Are these little specks on the lower part of the bezel due to the powder-coating process?
Those are just pieces of dust. I tried my best to stamp out any dust in photoshop but forgot to do the keyboard itself (focused on the keycaps).
If you want examples of what the powder-coating looks like, check these:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/pKIYuwu.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qmzcU3F.jpg)
Thanks, I thought those dust specks were little lumps of powder from the coating process.
Post by: 12on on Mon, 04 September 2017, 19:18:35
zslane recommended sorbothane which is available on amazon under the name "Isolate It".
zslane have you used it for this purpose? What thickness would you recommend?
I used a single 1/10" sheet, which I cut into the necessary shapes, to fill the bottom of a walnut Datamancer case for one of my Pok3rs:
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Without the sorbothane, the bottom-out and upstroke noise would echo inside the case in a really unappealing way. The sorbothane pretty much killed that noise dead, and now you can hear the light click of the MX blues more clearly since it is no longer drowned out by all that other noise. It also added a nice bit of extra weight to the keyboard (sorbothane is surprisingly dense and heavy, and the walnut case was surprisingly light).
I also used the same stuff in the bottom of a Lambo 60% case that houses my KBP V60 mini (with LightCycle DSA keycaps), though to be honest, it really didn't need it.
hi - does it sound dampening matters on the case material? ie. plastic vs alum.. and on the type of switches? ie. mx vs topre
I just picked up a FC660C and a HHKB Pro JP, very interested in my first mod.
Post by: zslane on Mon, 04 September 2017, 19:31:20
It isn't nearly as necessary with Topre switches which are soft on bottoming out and silent on the upstroke if you install silencing rings (which I highly recommend). So a NovaTouch doesn't need any sound dampening inside the case, IMO. I don't think an aluminum case will make any difference in that regard, but I won't know for sure until I get mine.
Post by: cmc on Mon, 04 September 2017, 23:55:39
Post by: robotsokk on Tue, 05 September 2017, 22:00:28
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/I5eZKSV.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/HTLmi44.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/H542PKO.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/mbfFcHH.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/lHSOozq.jpg)
GMK Honeywell on a Rapid-i with Kailh Speed Coppers and a Monte Carlo Red Norbauer :)
Wow... just, superb. Nice combo! Fingers crossed that this finish is available for the RF cases... :D
Post by: superpiya on Wed, 06 September 2017, 02:41:35
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Any suggestions for keycap set, preferably SA ?
Post by: autobot on Wed, 06 September 2017, 10:39:16
My galactic blue case has arrived, and it is gorgeous :thumb:
(Attachment Link)
Any suggestions for keycap set, preferably SA ?
Penumbra?
Post by: Bambino on Wed, 06 September 2017, 11:26:49
Can you explain the difference between the "medium texture" Enigma Gray and the "wrinkle texture" of Royal Wrinkle? I love heavy textures, but I'd go for gray over black if the textures are the same/very similar.
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 06 September 2017, 11:40:01
Can you explain the difference between the "medium texture" Enigma Gray and the "wrinkle texture" of Royal Wrinkle? I love heavy textures, but I'd go for gray over black if the textures are the same/very similar.
Sure! Happy to help. The main difference you'd notice is in the pattern of the texture. The wrinkle texture is just like it sounds; if you look at it up close you can see very small/fine convoluted lines. The Enigma Gray texture is more just like a random smattering of tiny bumps, which when taken at the macro scale form a bit of texture. The wrinkle is probably a bit thicker, but they're both pretty flat and even than you'd probably imagine for a texture finish, so it doesn't impinge on the clearance area for the keys or anything like that. I hope this makes some sense, but just let me know if you need any further clarification. :)
Post by: Bambino on Wed, 06 September 2017, 15:34:37
Sure! Happy to help. The main difference you'd notice is in the pattern of the texture. The wrinkle texture is just like it sounds; if you look at it up close you can see very small/fine convoluted lines. The Enigma Gray texture is more just like a random smattering of tiny bumps, which when taken at the macro scale form a bit of texture. The wrinkle is probably a bit thicker, but they're both pretty flat and even than you'd probably imagine for a texture finish, so it doesn't impinge on the clearance area for the keys or anything like that. I hope this makes some sense, but just let me know if you need any further clarification. :)
Okay, then I take it that the feel would be about the same - pretty smooth, maybe with a little more grit/bumpiness for the wrinkle finish. The main difference would be the visual appearance - either "wrinkly/wavy" or "pitted/sandy" like these two pictures:
(https://s29.postimg.org/4gthbx587/paint.png)
Does that sound right?
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 06 September 2017, 15:42:51
Sure! Happy to help. The main difference you'd notice is in the pattern of the texture. The wrinkle texture is just like it sounds; if you look at it up close you can see very small/fine convoluted lines. The Enigma Gray texture is more just like a random smattering of tiny bumps, which when taken at the macro scale form a bit of texture. The wrinkle is probably a bit thicker, but they're both pretty flat and even than you'd probably imagine for a texture finish, so it doesn't impinge on the clearance area for the keys or anything like that. I hope this makes some sense, but just let me know if you need any further clarification. :)
Okay, then I take it that the feel would be about the same - pretty smooth, maybe with a little more grit/bumpiness for the wrinkle finish. The main difference would be the visual appearance - either "wrinkly/wavy" or "pitted/sandy" like these two pictures:Show Image(https://s29.postimg.org/4gthbx587/paint.png)
Does that sound right?
Yes, that is correct. Those images somewhat exaggerate the texture since they're so magnified, but it conveys the general difference. :)
Post by: DreLLin on Thu, 07 September 2017, 06:41:17
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Absolutely stunning how smooth it is as I always thought that powder coating has some form of structure.
Will take some more pictures later when I have put everything together.
Thanks Ryan for this awesome case. :thumb:
Post by: child on Thu, 07 September 2017, 12:40:07
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 07 September 2017, 14:08:59
By the way, are there any news regarding the replacements for early-caught color problems? If I understood the mail correctly, they should be reaching Norbauer just about now, am I correct?
There were very few of those, but those anodized cases are actually being packed today at the factory, going out to me in the next few days. As soon as I have them, of course, I'll turn them around within a day or so.
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 07 September 2017, 14:10:18
My spacestation white case just arrived. ;D
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Absolutely stunning how smooth it is as I always thought that powder coating has some form of structure.
Will take some more pictures later when I have put everything together.
Thanks Ryan for this awesome case. :thumb:
Thanks so much! That's why I'm really happy with the powder coating vendor I've finally found. Powder coat does usually have a pretty mottled and wavy texture. To some extent that is an unavoidable inherent part of how the product works, but this place does a great job of minimizing it. :)
Post by: braidn on Thu, 07 September 2017, 18:34:00
My galactic blue case has arrived, and it is gorgeous :thumb:
(Attachment Link)
Any suggestions for keycap set, preferably SA ?
Penumbra?
This is what I will be pairing with my Galactic Blue this weekend.
Post by: superpiya on Fri, 08 September 2017, 01:18:20
My galactic blue case has arrived, and it is gorgeous :thumb:
(Attachment Link)
Any suggestions for keycap set, preferably SA ?
Penumbra?
With solarized alpha or yellow alpha?
Post by: autobot on Fri, 08 September 2017, 06:44:10
My galactic blue case has arrived, and it is gorgeous :thumb:
(Attachment Link)
Any suggestions for keycap set, preferably SA ?
Penumbra?
With solarized alpha or yellow alpha?
IMO, the yellow alphas look like they came from a smoker's home, I'd go Solarized.
Post by: superpiya on Fri, 08 September 2017, 07:14:28
My galactic blue case has arrived, and it is gorgeous :thumb:
(Attachment Link)
Any suggestions for keycap set, preferably SA ?
Penumbra?
With solarized alpha or yellow alpha?
IMO, the yellow alphas look like they came from a smoker's home, I'd go Solarized.
haha, that's a good point.. does Originative SA Solarized pre-order still open?
Post by: autobot on Fri, 08 September 2017, 07:18:54
My galactic blue case has arrived, and it is gorgeous :thumb:
(Attachment Link)
Any suggestions for keycap set, preferably SA ?
Penumbra?
With solarized alpha or yellow alpha?
IMO, the yellow alphas look like they came from a smoker's home, I'd go Solarized.
haha, that's a good point.. does Originative SA Solarized pre-order still open?
Yep, still shows as pre-order.
https://originative.co/products/sa-solarized (https://originative.co/products/sa-solarized)
Post by: superpiya on Fri, 08 September 2017, 07:36:08
My galactic blue case has arrived, and it is gorgeous :thumb:
(Attachment Link)
Any suggestions for keycap set, preferably SA ?
Penumbra?
With solarized alpha or yellow alpha?
IMO, the yellow alphas look like they came from a smoker's home, I'd go Solarized.
haha, that's a good point.. does Originative SA Solarized pre-order still open?
Yep, still shows as pre-order.
https://originative.co/products/sa-solarized (https://originative.co/products/sa-solarized)
Alright then. Thanks for your help man! Also RIP wallet :))
Post by: poolside on Fri, 08 September 2017, 16:26:01
I have tried to follow along the best I could forgive me if this has been answered.
I believe originally the cases were going to be sent directly to oco but norbauer elected to personally inspect them prior. If this is correct have they been shipped to oco yet?
thanks in advance.
That is correct, and yes, they are on their way to LA now. There was a slight shortfall from the factory for the Originative orders, however, so a few people will have to wait an extra week or two for theirs. I've been so busy today I haven't even had a chance to update Sheraton on all this yet. It's on my list for the evening. :confused:
Will these few missing Originative cases go through to you as well for additional QC or fly straight from the manufacturer to Los Angeles?
Post by: Auk on Fri, 08 September 2017, 16:37:28
Will these few missing Originative cases go through to you as well for additional QC or fly straight from the manufacturer to Los Angeles?
Ryan is inspecting them. I confirmed yesterday by email that the shipment to make up the shortfall is going directly to him and will include cases ordered from Originative as well as those ordered directly from Ryan.
Post by: Miotch92 on Sat, 09 September 2017, 02:51:56
Sent from my SM-G935T using Tapatalk
Post by: poolside on Sat, 09 September 2017, 09:01:08
Will these few missing Originative cases go through to you as well for additional QC or fly straight from the manufacturer to Los Angeles?
Ryan is inspecting them. I confirmed yesterday by email that the shipment to make up the shortfall is going directly to him and will include cases ordered from Originative as well as those ordered directly from Ryan.
Ok, thanks Auk!
Post by: norbauer on Sat, 09 September 2017, 10:58:53
These cases truly look incredible
Thanks! :D
Post by: losthumans on Mon, 11 September 2017, 18:28:25
http://m.imgur.com/a/ksBnz (http://m.imgur.com/a/ksBnz)
Post by: pootsounds on Mon, 11 September 2017, 19:25:54
Received mine sooo excited thanks so much truly flawless!!!
http://m.imgur.com/a/ksBnz (http://m.imgur.com/a/ksBnz)
Wow we're basically keeb brothers I went with maxkey Portland on mine though (black with a novatouch). Did you hypersphere and lube it as well?
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 11 September 2017, 19:33:19
Received mine sooo excited thanks so much truly flawless!!!
http://m.imgur.com/a/ksBnz (http://m.imgur.com/a/ksBnz)
Thanks for the great feedback, and for sharing these awesome photos. :D Glad everything arrived safely.
Post by: TheEerieCold on Mon, 11 September 2017, 21:35:50
(https://i.imgur.com/ohMZ2zw.jpg)
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 11 September 2017, 21:38:11
For anyone else who got a Retro case looking for a cable, Zap! cables did a great job matching mine. Used Turquoise paracord with clear techflex.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ohMZ2zw.jpg)
Haha. Nice!
Those artisans are also a nice match.
Post by: losthumans on Mon, 11 September 2017, 23:17:04
No lube but KBDfans silencing rings on the way (already used on an HHKB with huge success). And Portland is niiiiiice!Received mine sooo excited thanks so much truly flawless!!!
http://m.imgur.com/a/ksBnz (http://m.imgur.com/a/ksBnz)
Wow we're basically keeb brothers I went with maxkey Portland on mine though (black with a novatouch). Did you hypersphere and lube it as well?
Post by: losthumans on Mon, 11 September 2017, 23:18:03
For anyone else who got a Retro case looking for a cable, Zap! cables did a great job matching mine. Used Turquoise paracord with clear techflex.Just ordered a Dolch Zap for mine as well, super solid folks can't wait to receive.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ohMZ2zw.jpg)
Post by: madindehead on Tue, 12 September 2017, 01:49:12
Received mine sooo excited thanks so much truly flawless!!!
http://m.imgur.com/a/ksBnz (http://m.imgur.com/a/ksBnz)
Is that the Enigma Black? Looks stunning! Amazed you found a Novatouch that looks to be brand new! Or did you have that lying around? :p
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 12 September 2017, 11:59:04
Received mine sooo excited thanks so much truly flawless!!!
http://m.imgur.com/a/ksBnz (http://m.imgur.com/a/ksBnz)
Is that the Enigma Black? Looks stunning! Amazed you found a Novatouch that looks to be brand new! Or did you have that lying around? :p
Since he got it from OCo, I think that's just bead-blasted anodized black. The way the photo has the sunlight coming in at an angle (as oriented toward the face and camera) makes it look like the case has much more texture than it actually does.
Post by: losthumans on Tue, 12 September 2017, 18:32:30
Yes sorry it was just the package deal from Originative and came with old stock Novatouch. There is a bit of texture but nothing like the Enigma black from what I can tell. I can't remember what colors were offered but it was limited via the Originative buy. Thanks!Received mine sooo excited thanks so much truly flawless!!!
http://m.imgur.com/a/ksBnz (http://m.imgur.com/a/ksBnz)
Is that the Enigma Black? Looks stunning! Amazed you found a Novatouch that looks to be brand new! Or did you have that lying around? :p
Since he got it from OCo, I think that's just bead-blasted anodized black. The way the photo has the sunlight coming in at an angle (as oriented toward the face and camera) makes it look like the case has much more texture than it actually does.
Post by: superpiya on Thu, 14 September 2017, 03:10:21
My galactic blue case has arrived, and it is gorgeous :thumb:
(Attachment Link)
Any suggestions for keycap set, preferably SA ?
Penumbra?
This is what I will be pairing with my Galactic Blue this weekend.
Hello there, have you placed the keycaps? Please share us some pictures ;)
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Fri, 15 September 2017, 12:15:25
do you have a rough estimate when you can ship out the international orders that had to be changed due to the initial fault with the anodizing?
Thanks :)
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 15 September 2017, 12:36:32
Hello norbauer,
do you have a rough estimate when you can ship out the international orders that had to be changed due to the initial fault with the anodizing?
Thanks :)
It would depend on the specific finish you had. Just send me an email (reply to your order receipt) and I'll be able to give you more specifics.
Post by: q1w2e3r4t5z on Sat, 16 September 2017, 10:00:04
Did so, thanksHello norbauer,
do you have a rough estimate when you can ship out the international orders that had to be changed due to the initial fault with the anodizing?
Thanks :)
It would depend on the specific finish you had. Just send me an email (reply to your order receipt) and I'll be able to give you more specifics.
Post by: elcubismo on Mon, 18 September 2017, 09:10:06
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Mon, 18 September 2017, 10:39:59
Can't wait for my case. I check this thread every day to see pics of everyone else's boards.
Same here, and waiting on an update email from Originative on when to expect mine! ???
Post by: zslane on Mon, 18 September 2017, 11:53:25
Post by: nineleveno on Wed, 20 September 2017, 22:22:41
(https://i.imgur.com/U96c31F.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NvcwUpt.jpg)
This case really exceeded my expectations (which were already pretty high), and now I can't wait for the ones I ordered in R2.5 to come in. Excellent work, Ryan.
I also made some vinyl "washers" for the riser feet -- they seem to do a good job at preventing any scratches that could occur from tightening the riser feet against the case, and are basically undetectable once the feet are on:
(https://i.imgur.com/KUTr3Kj.jpg)
Post by: MMKB on Thu, 21 September 2017, 01:08:47
Alright, one more to the fold (wanted to catch some pretty SA reflections and as many shades as possible of the case in different lightings at the same time, so, sorry for the harsh light):Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ftRqHGx.jpg)
<3 Basically what I want to look at everyday.
Post by: elcubismo on Mon, 25 September 2017, 23:19:52
Post by: zslane on Tue, 26 September 2017, 11:45:19
Post by: beamingrobot on Tue, 26 September 2017, 12:28:40
(https://i.imgur.com/XF1HICv.jpg)
Post by: norbauer on Tue, 26 September 2017, 13:14:32
Or any update on the brushed aluminum cases that had to be re-done?
Arrived yesterday. I'll be packing and shipping those this evening.
Any updates on the powder coating for the tactical gray cases that were discolored?
At the powder coating shop now. I machined a special jig for the shop to use when bead-blasting the cases and risers to protect the threads (which have an annoying tendency to tighten up on the powder coated cases), which I just got to them last week. So they should be bead blasting them this week and coating late this week or next. The shop is highly variable in turnaround times, so I won't venture to say when we'll get them back, but that is where things stand now.
Post by: zslane on Tue, 26 September 2017, 14:26:45
Or any update on the brushed aluminum cases that had to be re-done?
Arrived yesterday. I'll be packing and shipping those this evening.
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Post by: consolation on Tue, 26 September 2017, 22:42:50
Just built my Galactic Blue Novatouch, lubed, silenced and all that jazz. ...
Very classy, Galactic Blue look awesome. Infact, I haven't seen a single disappointing colour so far. Norbauer, you really did an amazing job with QC and design.
Post by: elcubismo on Wed, 27 September 2017, 10:07:45
At the powder coating shop now. I machined a special jig for the shop to use when bead-blasting the cases and risers to protect the threads (which have an annoying tendency to tighten up on the powder coated cases), which I just got to them last week. So they should be bead blasting them this week and coating late this week or next. The shop is highly variable in turnaround times, so I won't venture to say when we'll get them back, but that is where things stand now.
Thanks for the update!
Just curious, but what were the most/least requested colors that have been ordered?
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 28 September 2017, 17:47:57
At the powder coating shop now. I machined a special jig for the shop to use when bead-blasting the cases and risers to protect the threads (which have an annoying tendency to tighten up on the powder coated cases), which I just got to them last week. So they should be bead blasting them this week and coating late this week or next. The shop is highly variable in turnaround times, so I won't venture to say when we'll get them back, but that is where things stand now.
Thanks for the update!
Just curious, but what were the most/least requested colors that have been ordered?
The most popular 2.5 powder colors were, in this order: retro, enigma black, venice beach, enigma gray, astrophysical purple, white, galaxy, royal wrinkle. And nobody ordered Monte Carlo red! :))
I would have to dig up the r2 numbers by figuring out to run the right report in Shopify, but in general they were similar. Everyone seems to like retro refrigerator a lot.
Post by: nightdriver on Thu, 28 September 2017, 19:19:25
Post by: robotsokk on Thu, 28 September 2017, 19:31:44
Post by: elcubismo on Thu, 05 October 2017, 15:48:51
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 05 October 2017, 15:53:08
Got my shipping confirmation 6 days ago and I'm still so pumped.
Sorry about the latency between the shipping label generation and the actual pickup, btw, eclubismo. All the boxes in this latest round are now with carriers, but it took me a while to get them to the three different carriers with the small handful of boxes I sent out last week.
Also: don't be alarmed if you're still waiting on a case from me that was a powder-coat finish replacement for a gray ano case from r2. Those are mostly still at the shop being worked on right now.
Post by: eksuen on Thu, 05 October 2017, 18:50:13
And FYI: if you are looking to get a matching cable for Retro Refrigerator, the standard mint paracord is much too green. I'm currently looking into the turquoise options.
Post by: richard912 on Fri, 06 October 2017, 01:50:05
Post by: zslane on Fri, 06 October 2017, 11:59:24
Post by: RubenMcNoobin on Fri, 06 October 2017, 13:28:59
Finally got round to getting my Aerospace Aluminium case installed. I lined the bottom with a layer of 4mm automotive sound dampening foam. Pictures here https://imgur.com/a/VmtgX (https://imgur.com/a/VmtgX)
Wow, thanks for reminding me about looking into adding some foam! I was going to do the swap this weekend and entirely forgot about lining the inside. I'll probably grab some toolbox liner or equivalent from a home improvement store.
Post by: robotsokk on Sat, 07 October 2017, 11:21:51
Finally got round to getting my Aerospace Aluminium case installed. I lined the bottom with a layer of 4mm automotive sound dampening foam. Pictures here https://imgur.com/a/VmtgX
How would you describe the difference in sound/typing feel after installing the dampening foam? This is a mod I've had back-of-mind, but haven't pulled the trigger on...
Post by: elcubismo on Sat, 07 October 2017, 21:48:56
Post by: elcubismo on Sat, 07 October 2017, 21:55:14
Post by: norbauer on Sun, 08 October 2017, 11:22:26
Nevermind figured it out. Forgot the black part around the connector was not part of the case
Ah, ok. Glad you figured it out, because I wasn't quite sure what you were asking. :)
Post by: norbauer on Sun, 08 October 2017, 11:23:21
Waitaminnit. There's room in there for that much foam between a NovaTouch board and the case bottom??? :eek:
I intentionally left a bit of room for foam and to prevent any potential for electrical shorting, but most of the vertical space is clearance for that USB connector that hangs off the bottom of the PCB.
Post by: zslane on Sun, 08 October 2017, 14:23:43
Here's my first re-case job: Brushed Tactical Gray with DSA Dolch keycaps.
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Eventually I will be putting SA Carbon on it, but the Dolch also looks terrific with the Tactical Gray!
Post by: robotsokk on Sun, 08 October 2017, 14:27:25
That extra space is awesome! I'm really glad it is there.
Here's my first re-case job: Brushed Tactical Gray with DSA Dolch keycaps.
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Eventually I will be putting SA Carbon on it, but the Dolch also looks terrific with the Tactical Gray!
Wow, such a clean build. Dolch really does pair well with the Tactical Gray.
Post by: zslane on Sun, 08 October 2017, 15:15:35
These Norbauer cases are really quite exceptional. They are almost too good for the keyboard that's in them. ;D
Post by: elcubismo on Mon, 09 October 2017, 08:46:58
(https://i.imgur.com/zAnN6PU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AfpcveT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MwqojTD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ayDfhWh.jpg)
Post by: norbauer on Mon, 09 October 2017, 10:28:09
It's beautiful!!!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zAnN6PU.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/AfpcveT.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MwqojTD.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ayDfhWh.jpg)
Wow. I really like that finish color and keycap combination. I would never have thought of using a white case with a bright color keyset, but it works nicely.
Post by: elcubismo on Mon, 09 October 2017, 13:30:45
It's beautiful!!!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/zAnN6PU.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/AfpcveT.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MwqojTD.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/ayDfhWh.jpg)
Wow. I really like that finish color and keycap combination. I would never have thought of using a white case with a bright color keyset, but it works nicely.
Thanks! I was very unsure of myself when I chose spacestation white. I had decision remorse about not choosing enigma black. But that's gone now because I love this!
Post by: nightdriver on Mon, 09 October 2017, 13:45:58
(https://i.imgur.com/jAFNmeF.jpg)
Post by: HighNoon on Thu, 12 October 2017, 18:13:11
Post by: sherryton on Thu, 12 October 2017, 19:08:22
Yes sorry it was just the package deal from Originative and came with old stock Novatouch. There is a bit of texture but nothing like the Enigma black from what I can tell. I can't remember what colors were offered but it was limited via the Originative buy. Thanks!Received mine sooo excited thanks so much truly flawless!!!
http://m.imgur.com/a/ksBnz (http://m.imgur.com/a/ksBnz)
Is that the Enigma Black? Looks stunning! Amazed you found a Novatouch that looks to be brand new! Or did you have that lying around? :p
Since he got it from OCo, I think that's just bead-blasted anodized black. The way the photo has the sunlight coming in at an angle (as oriented toward the face and camera) makes it look like the case has much more texture than it actually does.
Enjoying it? :)
Post by: norbauer on Fri, 13 October 2017, 11:10:46
Any news on the r2 tactical grey replacements that are currently being powder coated?
I continue to wait for the powder shop to complete them. I try not to rush them, but I'll find an excuse to "drop by" the shop in the next week or so and nudge them for an update. ;)
Post by: HighNoon on Sat, 14 October 2017, 23:20:20
Post by: zslane on Mon, 16 October 2017, 11:55:23
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These Norbauer cases are absolutely exquisite!
Post by: elcubismo on Mon, 16 October 2017, 13:39:21
Here's this past weekend's project. Space Station White case with silenced NovaTouch and Round 6 SPH keycaps:
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These Norbauer cases are absolutely exquisite!
Looks awesome! What kind of numpad is that? The white really matches well with the norbatouch.
Post by: zslane on Mon, 16 October 2017, 13:42:34
Post by: eksuen on Fri, 20 October 2017, 17:59:07
Post by: avid on Fri, 20 October 2017, 18:08:09
Is that from a meetup or do you own 4 of them? :D
Post by: eksuen on Fri, 20 October 2017, 20:00:40
Post by: pvd on Sat, 21 October 2017, 21:10:51
I put sorbothane on the bottom of my norbauer case, but I don't think it's doing much.
Post by: DillonHightower on Sun, 22 October 2017, 00:22:57
Does anyone else have issues with their novatouch plate vibrating? When I depress any of the keys in the asdf row and release them with my fingers still on them, I can feel the keys "vibrate" under my fingers. There's no sound, but I find the feeling irritating. I separated the plate from the pcb to install silencing rings, and I'm wondering if screwed the plate too tightly to the pcb (or not tightly enough) when putting it back together. Is this an issue all novatouch boards have?
I put sorbothane on the bottom of my norbauer case, but I don't think it's doing much.
I did not have any issues with mine. You should check to make sure the 2 screws holding down the plate are not loose or off a bit..
Post by: Trente on Sun, 22 October 2017, 00:32:52
Post by: nightdriver on Tue, 24 October 2017, 22:22:47
Post by: autobot on Tue, 24 October 2017, 23:41:37
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 25 October 2017, 11:32:28
Curious is this case compatible for phantom or filco build, I love that retro refrigerator color, and wondering if any one had tried phantom or even LFK tkl (the PCB I am planning t ouse) build on this case
Unfortunately, it only fits the stated CM TKL boards. Phantom and Filco have entirely different plates.
Post by: nightdriver on Wed, 25 October 2017, 15:17:57
(https://i.imgur.com/RxILejn.jpg)
Post by: elcubismo on Fri, 27 October 2017, 00:33:28
Post by: zslane on Fri, 27 October 2017, 11:43:47
Post by: sysfury on Sun, 12 November 2017, 16:23:00
Post by: norbauer on Sun, 12 November 2017, 16:25:17
Any news on the r2 tactical grey replacements that are currently being powder coated?
I recently sent out an update to those folks. Let me know if you didn’t get it.
I was at the shop on Friday and the Retro colors were all finished minus the riser feet, which are being finished Monday. Most other colors were in a state of partial completion.
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Post by: sysfury on Sun, 12 November 2017, 16:32:12
Didn't get it. Sent you an email now.Any news on the r2 tactical grey replacements that are currently being powder coated?
I recently sent out an update to those folks. Let me know if you didn’t get it.
I was at the shop on Friday and the Retro colors were all finished minus the riser feet, which are being finished Monday. Most other colors were in a state of partial completion.
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Post by: norbauer on Thu, 07 December 2017, 13:40:18
Since the r2.5 anodized cases are likely shipping in the next week or so, it's particularly embarrassing to me to think about the fact that I'm still waiting to wrap up these few remaining r2 orders, and I'm really sorry for the trouble. I sent the a semi-impatient message earlier today and hopefully it'll motivate them to turn around the remaining cases this week, but of course I'm entirely at their mercy in terms of turnaround time. I could go to another shop, but in my experience the results would not be as good.
If anybody is still waiting one of these replacements and would prefer a refund instead, as always, just let me know and it's yours.
Also, thanks everyone for posting all these awesome pics of your case/keyboard/keycap combos in this thread. They all look amazing! It's so nice to see so many of my cases out in the wild. It was particularly cool to see eksuen's collection of three (or was it four?) of these cases at the NorCal meetup a few weeks ago. :)
Post by: eksuen on Thu, 07 December 2017, 15:24:41
(https://i.imgur.com/IkHyokS.jpg)
Post by: zslane on Thu, 07 December 2017, 15:28:52
I only have three: white, dark gray, and indigo blue (a replacement) that is awaiting powder coating.
Post by: nightdriver on Fri, 08 December 2017, 20:02:19
Post by: eksuen on Fri, 08 December 2017, 21:00:15
i've also got four: enigma black, aluminum, gray, and brushed blue. too lazy to take a photo with all four right now. also, don't actually have enough CM keyboards for all four cases yet. wish it was still easy to find novatouches... i'm kinda wondering if i could get my royalkluge knockoff novatouch in one, it looks like roughly the same dimensions...
If you do try that, let us know if it fits. Only three of mine are Novatouches. The fourth is a Masterkeys Pro S that I replaced switches and LEDs on. I wanted a white plate with the white case.
Post by: YH YOON on Thu, 14 December 2017, 10:14:41
Post by: norbauer on Thu, 21 December 2017, 16:08:31
thank you so much ryan
My pleasure! Thanks for posting the pics. :)
Post by: regionfree on Wed, 27 December 2017, 06:46:19
Post by: norbauer on Wed, 27 December 2017, 11:18:38
For the purchases made theough Originative, have they started shipping out as well? Bought a slate case with Novatouch bundle through them. Would appreciate the info.
By slate do you mean black anodized? If so, Originative should have those by the end of the week, but if so, you've also got the wrong run/thread, as those are part of r2.5 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91292.0). ;)
Post by: regionfree on Wed, 27 December 2017, 16:24:34
For the purchases made theough Originative, have they started shipping out as well? Bought a slate case with Novatouch bundle through them. Would appreciate the info.
By slate do you mean black anodized? If so, Originative should have those by the end of the week, but if so, you've also got the wrong run/thread, as those are part of r2.5 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91292.0). ;)
Thanks for the info! 😁
Post by: TheEerieCold on Fri, 29 December 2017, 22:37:31
(https://i.imgur.com/nUleSRc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DVfU5Zx.jpg)
Post by: zslane on Sat, 30 December 2017, 11:35:23
Post by: clappingcactus on Sat, 30 December 2017, 13:11:33
Finally got my hands on the set Retro was meant to have!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/nUleSRc.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DVfU5Zx.jpg)
Abyss is still better, imo. When I tried Calm Depths on my RR the caps were far too blue.
Post by: consolation on Thu, 01 February 2018, 02:39:03
Enigma Black with dev/tty (triumph mods)
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SA profile for comparison...
old school Industrial Grey SA R3
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Enigma and Jukebox detail, sculpt SA & about the only time I got a shot of Enigma Black's texture that I was satisfied with:
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Apologies for my phone's lackadaisical approach to white balance and my lack of dusting :-/
Post by: tylernm on Sat, 10 February 2018, 21:44:13
Few quick shots of the 'fridge post-transplant:Show Image(https://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/Fnzvzz.jpg)MoreShow Image(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/f4tbBj.jpg)Show Image(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/Wb7Lug.jpg)Show Image(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/0nKGXs.jpg)
Post by: funkybeat7 on Sat, 10 February 2018, 21:45:34
Anyone know what Keyset is in this picture?SA Hyperfuse friendoFew quick shots of the 'fridge post-transplant:Show Image(https://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/Fnzvzz.jpg)MoreShow Image(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/f4tbBj.jpg)Show Image(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/Wb7Lug.jpg)Show Image(http://u.cubeupload.com/MythicalWagyu/0nKGXs.jpg)
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Post by: hervuli on Wed, 28 February 2018, 13:59:15
Now waiting patiently to do a similar overhaul of my RF87UB :)
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Post by: zslane on Wed, 28 February 2018, 16:30:03
Post by: syke on Sat, 05 May 2018, 17:57:26
Finally got my hands on the set Retro was meant to have!Love the color comboShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/nUleSRc.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/DVfU5Zx.jpg)
Post by: consolation on Tue, 28 August 2018, 20:34:39
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The rich colours of RS really complement the subtle texture of Enigma Black. It looks awesome in real life - both the case and caps are masterpieces imho. Get them if you can, you won't be disappointed.
Post by: Puddsy on Fri, 31 August 2018, 09:11:09
Bonus - RED SAMURAI on ENIGMA BLACK from R2
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The rich colours of RS really complement the subtle texture of Enigma Black. It looks awesome in real life - both the case and caps are masterpieces imho. Get them if you can, you won't be disappointed.
great colors