I don't see Microcenter or Fry's stocking this - but if they did they're probably relieved to know that they keycaps are very difficult to take off. Many boards on display seem to "lose" their keycaps if you know what I mean; consequently they are very hesitant to put them out.That's right. It is the same typing profile as my CM Storm MECH and my (sold) RK9000RE
What is the typing height/profile compared to your other keyboards? About the same as a QFR?
Wow did they fix the font? And that looks like dyesub legends instead of laser etched infills. I might be wrongI think these are laser etched infills ... at the very least they don't look like dye sub underneath
Problems : There are a couple of problems, either it is because MX keys have longer key travel than topre keys OR CM has issues with their key travel. The reason for that is that when you use a key remover to try and pry a key out the keycap is pushed to the very bottom making it highly impossible to remove keycaps if at all.
Wow did they fix the font? And that looks like dyesub legends instead of laser etched infills. I might be wrong
That one problem is hardly anything major.It might work but I'm not sure. When I send this keyboard back tomorrow i'll give my verdict because I can take a QF-I case and compare. The micro-usb port is what worries me, it might be offset but it will probably fit
When will it be released? Where can I get one?
Also, do you know if existing CM covers will work with it in replacement of the existing cover??
I'll tell them to include wire keycap pullers instead. Meanwhile I'll buy myself a wire keycap puller ;DProblems : There are a couple of problems, either it is because MX keys have longer key travel than topre keys OR CM has issues with their key travel. The reason for that is that when you use a key remover to try and pry a key out the keycap is pushed to the very bottom making it highly impossible to remove keycaps if at all.
This won't be a problem if they opt to include Wire keycap pullers instead of the cheapo plastic ring pullers. Nice write up, I'm excited to try one out at my local computer shop. :)Wow did they fix the font? And that looks like dyesub legends instead of laser etched infills. I might be wrong
Huh. You can't dyesub a lighter font on dark caps. It still looks like laser etched infills/pad printing. Only the LED caps (Caps, Scrl Lk) are laser etched backlit friendly caps.
That one problem is hardly anything major.
Wow did they fix the font? And that looks like dyesub legends instead of laser etched infills. I might be wrong
The problem with pulling out the key caps might not be so bad as long as you don't use the key remover that it comes with.Most likely yeah, does filco include a wire puller? I'm not clear on the launch date but it should be soon.
The hard plastic one can damage keys. Since there is a minimal amount of flex in the plastic key remover, it pushes the key all the way down before it snaps over the key.
I'm thinking that using a wire type key remover can alleviate the key removing issue since it is flexible.
It is more likely to get around the key without pushing down as hard or having to bottom the key out.
I guess CM won't include a key like that.
Key features? MX compatible topre capacitive switches, Right angled gold plated micro USB connector for the keyboard, Rubber case, media keys and it's NOT made in china that's for sure.
Problems : There are a couple of problems, either it is because MX keys have longer key travel than topre keys OR CM has issues with their key travel. The reason for that is that when you use a key remover to try and pry a key out the keycap is pushed to the very bottom making it highly impossible to remove keycaps if at all.
This won't be a problem if they opt to include Wire keycap pullers instead of the cheapo plastic ring pullers. Nice write up, I'm excited to try one out at my local computer shop. :)Wow did they fix the font? And that looks like dyesub legends instead of laser etched infills. I might be wrong
Huh. You can't dyesub a lighter font on dark caps. It still looks like laser etched infills/pad printing. Only the LED caps (Caps, Scrl Lk) are laser etched backlit friendly caps.
Taiwan or maybe unlikely japan.Key features? MX compatible topre capacitive switches, Right angled gold plated micro USB connector for the keyboard, Rubber case, media keys and it's NOT made in china that's for sure.
Well that's different. Where is it manufactured?
The problem with pulling out the key caps might not be so bad as long as you don't use the key remover that it comes with.Most likely yeah, does filco include a wire puller? I'm not clear on the launch date but it should be soon.
The hard plastic one can damage keys. Since there is a minimal amount of flex in the plastic key remover, it pushes the key all the way down before it snaps over the key.
I'm thinking that using a wire type key remover can alleviate the key removing issue since it is flexible.
It is more likely to get around the key without pushing down as hard or having to bottom the key out.
I guess CM won't include a key like that.
Could we get some pictures of the guts? PCB details please!Matt3o had already posted it. since it's not mine I'm not taking it apart :(
Wow did they fix the font? And that looks like dyesub legends instead of laser etched infills. I might be wrongDont even think that matters. Enthusiasts are waiting for this board and we all know theyll switch the caps asap
Could we get some pictures of the guts? PCB details please!
is this your first topre keyboard? If not, I want to know what you think about novatouch compare to other topre keyboards. by the way thanks for your review :thumb:Show Image(http://www.pureoverclock.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/CM_Storm_Logo1.jpg)
Cooler Master's gaming division CM STORM is preparing to launch a new keyboard.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/dolAUIb.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FCc5BbM.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/8r7VjG2.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MYLGQhn.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/RqwukBW.jpg)
"Oh no, not another keyboard again?!" Well this one is entirely radically new and different. That's why I'm here to give my First Impressions
I want to start of with why this keyboard is different.
Firstly, it will be the FIRST mass-manufactured and sold keyboard that can be found in every country and not just from elitekeyboards if you are in the states. (IIRC)
Secondly, it has compatibility with your Cherry MX-compatible keycapsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/FZQoG9w.jpg)
Lastly, it's ... well, just look at it. No-nonsense attitude to style and simplicity.
Key features? MX compatible topre capacitive switches, Right angled gold plated micro USB connector for the keyboard, Rubber case, media keys and it's NOT made in china that's for sure.
Performance : The experience for me on this keyboard can only be described as "heavenly" It feels MUCH better than a brown (which we all know to be reds with sand thrown on it) because of the far heavier bump (An actually useful bump) but it it as well an entirely different feel all together due to the fact that MX switches feel "empty" compared to the Topres.
Otherwise, it is a really good feeling switch the topres.
Build quality : As expected from CM it is built well. The chassis is solid and has NO flex at all in every direction
Problems : There are a couple of problems, either it is because MX keys have longer key travel than topre keys OR CM has issues with their key travel. The reason for that is that when you use a key remover to try and pry a key out the keycap is pushed to the very bottom making it highly impossible to remove keycaps if at all.
I see the above problem as spoiling the point of this keyboard because this keyboard is about being the FIRST customizable topre (in terms of keycaps) but it takes so much effort to remove them.
So do I like it? Oh yes I do. I can live with the above problem (swap all the keycaps for just one time) to use it. That's how much I like it.
What about the TKL format? I much prefer it over the TK format because I don't need numpad. TK format is just extra unnecessary clutter
So here you go, the typing test
is this your first topre keyboard? If not, I want to know what you think about novatouch compare to other topre keyboards. by the way thanks for your review :thumb:It is indeed my first topre keyboard. But I had used a Type heaven (the cheapo made in china topre) and i didn't like it at all.
Did the whole OP REALLY need to get quoted just to ask him/her if that was their first topre board?It's a he :p
most male asian hands looks like a girls hand. hihihiDid the whole OP REALLY need to get quoted just to ask him/her if that was their first topre board?It's a he :p
most male asian hands looks like a girls hand. hihihiDid the whole OP REALLY need to get quoted just to ask him/her if that was their first topre board?It's a he :p
most male asian hands looks like a girls hand. hihihiDid the whole OP REALLY need to get quoted just to ask him/her if that was their first topre board?It's a he :p
You're just confused because his thumbs bend backwards.
Build quality : As expected from CM it is built well.
I also thought it was funny when I read "As expected" but I guess to each his own.Build quality : As expected from CM it is built well.
Haha. You must not own very many CMs. At least with the QFR, when the solder joints fail you can just open it up and resolder it. When this thing fails it is probably going to be much harder to fix. Luckily you will probably be able to harvest the stems and get half the cost of the board back when it fails though.
most male asian hands looks like a girls hand. hihihiDid the whole OP REALLY need to get quoted just to ask him/her if that was their first topre board?It's a he :p
You're just confused because his thumbs bend backwards.
Build quality : As expected from CM it is built well.
Haha. You must not own very many CMs. At least with the QFR, when the solder joints fail you can just open it up and resolder it. When this thing fails it is probably going to be much harder to fix. Luckily you will probably be able to harvest the stems and get half the cost of the board back when it fails though.
You must ;Dmost male asian hands looks like a girls hand. hihihiDid the whole OP REALLY need to get quoted just to ask him/her if that was their first topre board?It's a he :p
You're just confused because his thumbs bend backwards.
My thumbs bend backwards too!
Maybe I should get a Novatouch?
You must ;DYou're just confused because his thumbs bend backwards.
My thumbs bend backwards too!
Maybe I should get a Novatouch?
Coming from blues I don't mind the 45g at all. I love it over blues :pYou must ;DYou're just confused because his thumbs bend backwards.
My thumbs bend backwards too!
Maybe I should get a Novatouch?
If only they were 55g - my 45g HHKB always feels a bit too light.
Coming from blues I don't mind the 45g at all. I love it over blues :pYou must ;DYou're just confused because his thumbs bend backwards.
My thumbs bend backwards too!
Maybe I should get a Novatouch?
If only they were 55g - my 45g HHKB always feels a bit too light.
Coming from blues I don't mind the 45g at all. I love it over blues :pYou must ;DYou're just confused because his thumbs bend backwards.
My thumbs bend backwards too!
Maybe I should get a Novatouch?
If only they were 55g - my 45g HHKB always feels a bit too light.
Blues are too light, I prefer greens :)
Reds are way too light, I prefer blacks.
45g HHKB is a bit too light, I'd like to try 55g Topre and I have a feeling that I would really like it.
Have you heard anything about a possible future 55g Novatouch?
Coming from blues I don't mind the 45g at all. I love it over blues :pYou must ;DYou're just confused because his thumbs bend backwards.
My thumbs bend backwards too!
Maybe I should get a Novatouch?
If only they were 55g - my 45g HHKB always feels a bit too light.
Blues are too light, I prefer greens :)
Reds are way too light, I prefer blacks.
45g HHKB is a bit too light, I'd like to try 55g Topre and I have a feeling that I would really like it.
Have you heard anything about a possible future 55g Novatouch?
Carter has mentioned the ideas of this being a larger line dependent on how well this performs for their bottom line. Of course, if everything is to be believed as shown, I'd be shocked if the same 55g mod that's done to the hhkb can't be done to this.
If you look on deskthority you will find that CM Bram said that if the 45g sells well, 30g and 55g might be in the pipeline
Holy crap those sliders are sexy..There's a certain appeal to them ;D
Nice review! Too bad that it is clumsy to change the keycaps.With the plastic keycap removers that is. The CM ones don't snap easily but they really damage thin keycaps :-\
Nice review! Too bad that it is clumsy to change the keycaps.With the plastic keycap removers that is. The CM ones don't snap easily but they really damage thin keycaps :-\
I'll be all over it if it was 55g.If 45g sells brilliantly, they will put 55g into production. If you guys do want the 55g please tell a CM rep :p
I'll be all over it if it was 55g.If 45g sells brilliantly, they will put 55g into production. If you guys do want the 55g please tell a CM rep :p
I'd be shocked if the same 55g mod that's done to the hhkb can't be done to this.
i thought you had to cut the other realforce boards as well? odd.
i've be very interested to see how very thick lube affects the 45g. really thick krytox is basically a solid and actually increases actuation force. might work well with the lighter domes? might be worth trying on a typeheaven.Interesting. The only lube I have is some silicone lube. I have used it before for lubing my MX keyboards and it's fine
If you look on deskthority you will find that CM Bram said that if the 45g sells well, 30g and 55g might be in the pipeline
._. :))If you look on deskthority you will find that CM Bram said that if the 45g sells well, 30g and 55g might be in the pipeline
30g?
Sweet, first board that you can type with waving your hand over the keys!
This new keyboard has great potential. Topre-switch boards have been hampered by a relative lack of replacement or custom keycaps. Here are some things I would hope to see, either in the forthcoming CM Topre-switch board or other models that might follow:
1. Ability to switch Backspace with Backslash (\), including a keycap swap for these positions.
2. Ability to convert Caps Lock to Control, including keycap swap.
3. Ability to exchange Win with Alt, Ctrl, or Fn.
4. Split Right Shift, putting Fn to the right of a shorter Right Shift.
5. Silenced Topre switches option.
6. 55-gram Topre switches option.
7. Non-rubberized case (is it so already?).
8. Micro-USB connector with plenty of room to connect third-party cables (is it so already?).
This new keyboard has great potential. Topre-switch boards have been hampered by a relative lack of replacement or custom keycaps. Here are some things I would hope to see, either in the forthcoming CM Topre-switch board or other models that might follow:
1. Ability to switch Backspace with Backslash (\), including a keycap swap for these positions.
2. Ability to convert Caps Lock to Control, including keycap swap.
3. Ability to exchange Win with Alt, Ctrl, or Fn.
4. Split Right Shift, putting Fn to the right of a shorter Right Shift.
5. Silenced Topre switches option.
6. 55-gram Topre switches option.
7. Non-rubberized case (is it so already?).
8. Micro-USB connector with plenty of room to connect third-party cables (is it so already?).
That is quite the wish list. #4 ever becoming a reality would be unfortunate because it will mean keycaps sets will need to accommodate a HHKB type layout. I would be surprised if #1 - 6 get implemented on the upcoming model since CM has been hinting that the Novatouch will cost less than $200.
I do hope that it doesn't ship with a rubberized finish. The grey case is looking pretty good.Show Image(http://oi59.tinypic.com/11s0e80.jpg)
All the newer pictures I have seen of the Novatouch it has a black case (Although I pray they also have a gray case option).
it's not properly gray, just reflection on that ****ty rubberized finish
This new keyboard has great potential. Topre-switch boards have been hampered by a relative lack of replacement or custom keycaps. Here are some things I would hope to see, either in the forthcoming CM Topre-switch board or other models that might follow:1-4, what's the point of doing that?
1. Ability to switch Backspace with Backslash (\), including a keycap swap for these positions.
2. Ability to convert Caps Lock to Control, including keycap swap.
3. Ability to exchange Win with Alt, Ctrl, or Fn.
4. Split Right Shift, putting Fn to the right of a shorter Right Shift.
5. Silenced Topre switches option.
6. 55-gram Topre switches option.
7. Non-rubberized case (is it so already?).
8. Micro-USB connector with plenty of room to connect third-party cables (is it so already?).
Future options:
1. 60% form factor, preferably with HHKB layout or DIP switch/programmable to HHKB layout.
2. Bluetooth or other wireless option.
3. High-profile two-tone color scheme dye-sub PBT keycaps with tasteful and attractive font, e.g., Helvetica.
4. See other options above.
This new keyboard has great potential. Topre-switch boards have been hampered by a relative lack of replacement or custom keycaps. Here are some things I would hope to see, either in the forthcoming CM Topre-switch board or other models that might follow:1-4, what's the point of doing that?
1. Ability to switch Backspace with Backslash (\), including a keycap swap for these positions.
2. Ability to convert Caps Lock to Control, including keycap swap.
3. Ability to exchange Win with Alt, Ctrl, or Fn.
4. Split Right Shift, putting Fn to the right of a shorter Right Shift.
5. Silenced Topre switches option.
6. 55-gram Topre switches option.
7. Non-rubberized case (is it so already?).
8. Micro-USB connector with plenty of room to connect third-party cables (is it so already?).
Future options:
1. 60% form factor, preferably with HHKB layout or DIP switch/programmable to HHKB layout.
2. Bluetooth or other wireless option.
3. High-profile two-tone color scheme dye-sub PBT keycaps with tasteful and attractive font, e.g., Helvetica.
4. See other options above.
5, Maybe.
6, 55 gram if the 45g sells well.
7. I prefer the rubberized case
8. huh? It IS a micro USB plug.
3) This keyboard is for people to swap keycaps anyway so why would they bother installing PBT keycaps from the get-go?
Then technically speaking should every board have it. But, BIG (Like CM) manufacturers are just going to stick to standards. (yes, standards.)This new keyboard has great potential. Topre-switch boards have been hampered by a relative lack of replacement or custom keycaps. Here are some things I would hope to see, either in the forthcoming CM Topre-switch board or other models that might follow:1-4, what's the point of doing that?
1. Ability to switch Backspace with Backslash (\), including a keycap swap for these positions.
2. Ability to convert Caps Lock to Control, including keycap swap.
3. Ability to exchange Win with Alt, Ctrl, or Fn.
4. Split Right Shift, putting Fn to the right of a shorter Right Shift.
5. Silenced Topre switches option.
6. 55-gram Topre switches option.
7. Non-rubberized case (is it so already?).
8. Micro-USB connector with plenty of room to connect third-party cables (is it so already?).
Future options:
1. 60% form factor, preferably with HHKB layout or DIP switch/programmable to HHKB layout.
2. Bluetooth or other wireless option.
3. High-profile two-tone color scheme dye-sub PBT keycaps with tasteful and attractive font, e.g., Helvetica.
4. See other options above.
5, Maybe.
6, 55 gram if the 45g sells well.
7. I prefer the rubberized case
8. huh? It IS a micro USB plug.
3) This keyboard is for people to swap keycaps anyway so why would they bother installing PBT keycaps from the get-go?
1-4 are common alternative preferences. You come off as really defensive when rjrich is giving some really good commentary btw :P
55 gram plzFrom the PAX video the CM guy says between $150-170 roughly.
Micro USB is cool too
Am I being stupid, I've just flitted through this thread, but did I miss a rough price of this bad boy?
55 gram plzFrom the PAX video the CM guy says between $150-170 roughly.
Micro USB is cool too
Am I being stupid, I've just flitted through this thread, but did I miss a rough price of this bad boy?
Would you happen to have the link for that video?
Thanks for the link to the video guys. It will be interested to see if it is compatible with existing TKL after market cases.They have actually said that it is made by Topre, they just don't want to specify that when promoting the board for some reason.
It baffles me as no-one from CM utters the word 'Topre,' they don't even hint it, it comes across to me that the CM representatives believe they developed the switch themselves.
Thats a damn fair price if you ask me. I'm sure it will translate to 150-170GBP though lolWe're talking about layouts ;)
Summer/Q3 >:DAFAIK It won't be that late ... I'm pissed if it's that late. >:D
Summer/Q3 >:DAFAIK It won't be that late ... I'm pissed if it's that late. >:D
I already said it's a micro USB. It's very easy to detach and latch the usb connector.Summer/Q3 >:DAFAIK It won't be that late ... I'm pissed if it's that late. >:D
We're pretty much two weeks away from May. A summer release sounds like a safe bet if they're still addressing USB issues (http://deskthority.net/post157618.html#p157618) and another CM rep mentioned something or the other about the keycaps font.
I already said it's a micro USB. It's very easy to detach and latch the usb connector.
I already said it's a micro USB. It's very easy to detach and latch the usb connector.
Check that thread.
"The current one is actually quite nice, but look at the way it turns when plugged into the keyboard. I think they moved the socket during development but didn't alter the cable to match."
55 gram plzFrom the PAX video the CM guy says between $150-170 roughly.
Micro USB is cool too
Am I being stupid, I've just flitted through this thread, but did I miss a rough price of this bad boy?
Would you happen to have the link for that video?
It looks like the keyboard sits really high..sort of like the CM Pro....I hope it just looks like that...Same profile as QFR.
anybody know if it has the same profile as all the other TKLs before, ie can I put it in a custom case already on the market
all i can really say about this board is that it's the first new board i've been super excited about in quite a while. can't wait till i can get ahold of one!
It looks like the keyboard sits really high..sort of like the CM Pro....I hope it just looks like that...Same profile as QFR.
Video from linus techtips:
The CM rep dosent mention Topre until Luke asks him about it. :rolleyes:
Video from linus techtips:
The CM rep dosent mention Topre until Luke asks him about it. :rolleyes:
Hint: GH doesn't like the YouTube with https - change it to http and the preview window should appear :)
Edit 1: Oh, you already did. Good job!
Edit 2: Still not good, how about this ...
Thanks! It didnt like a video from a playlist (and https).
A good rep yes. But I had the feeling that he had talked for some hours (I know how that feels)Thanks! It didnt like a video from a playlist (and https).
It's a bit picky, isn't it.
A good rep - makes me want to buy one!
Video from linus techtips:
The CM rep dosent mention Topre until Luke asks him about it.
This new keyboard has great potential. Topre-switch boards have been hampered by a relative lack of replacement or custom keycaps. Here are some things I would hope to see, either in the forthcoming CM Topre-switch board or other models that might follow:
1. Ability to switch Backspace with Backslash (\), including a keycap swap for these positions.
2. Ability to convert Caps Lock to Control, including keycap swap.
3. Ability to exchange Win with Alt, Ctrl, or Fn.
4. Split Right Shift, putting Fn to the right of a shorter Right Shift.
(...)
1. 60% form factor, preferably with HHKB layout or DIP switch/programmable to HHKB layout.
I don't know what's wrong with some of the l33t g4merz and their views on keyboard brands, but I saw some comments on the youtube video stating that the new Razer switches were 'better' and that CM Storm is 'copying' them lmfao.I saw all of those comments, painful to read.
Doesn't help that they're bashing topre and its rubber domes too.
Let's just hope this keyboard shuts up the naysayers and appeals to not only the enthusiasts, but up-and-coming keyboard lovers too (:
yes! buy razer and spend 80% of the price in packaging. because that's what matters.
There's still the problem of the depth of the actuated key on the nova touch? Is that being fixed on the release product?
they are topre. the PCB is also topre branded.
I don't know what's wrong with some of the l33t g4merz and their views on keyboard brands, but I saw some comments on the youtube video stating that the new Razer switches were 'better' and that CM Storm is 'copying' them lmfao.I saw all of those comments, painful to read.
Doesn't help that they're bashing topre and its rubber domes too.
Let's just hope this keyboard shuts up the naysayers and appeals to not only the enthusiasts, but up-and-coming keyboard lovers too (:
Just like this comment I saw not too long ago, just goes to show your average razer customer I guess.Show Image(http://cdn.overclock.net/9/97/900x900px-LL-970161ef_gyukghjgk.png)
There's still the problem of the depth of the actuated key on the nova touch? Is that being fixed on the release product?
I'm curious about this as well. CM reps seem to be more active at Deskthority so an answer may turn up there.
It's a partnership between Topre and CM Storm, if I understand it correctly. I suppose PFU wouldn't be very happy, if CM Storm made a budget-level HHKB.
OTOH Carter has mentioned that they'd consider a 60% design, if NovaTouch *is* successful.
All these things CM are promising if Novatouch is successful - how many people are going to hold off buying the 45g TKL layout waiting for something different?
There's still the problem of the depth of the actuated key on the nova touch? Is that being fixed on the release product?
I'm curious about this as well. CM reps seem to be more active at Deskthority so an answer may turn up there.
IIRC Matt3o mentioned it somewhere, but he's under NDA.
I don't know what's wrong with some of the l33t g4merz and their views on keyboard brands, but I saw some comments on the youtube video stating that the new Razer switches were 'better' and that CM Storm is 'copying' them lmfao.I saw all of those comments, painful to read.
Doesn't help that they're bashing topre and its rubber domes too.
Let's just hope this keyboard shuts up the naysayers and appeals to not only the enthusiasts, but up-and-coming keyboard lovers too (:
Just like this comment I saw not too long ago, just goes to show your average razer customer I guess.Show Image(http://cdn.overclock.net/9/97/900x900px-LL-970161ef_gyukghjgk.png)
DA? Only the old 3.5G one is. Nothing is worth it at Razer anymore. The CM Storm Alcor is the new kid on the block :pyes! buy razer and spend 80% of the price in packaging. because that's what matters.
Only razer product I think is worth its value is the deathadder
Literally nothing else that company has to offer is 'bang for the buck'
Anyway, back on topic
There's still the problem of the depth of the actuated key on the nova touch? Is that being fixed on the release product?
I think it is because it has a tactile bump but isn't clicky...so the closest thing to it that people can relate to in the mechanical world is brown...although I think Alps are probably closer...and obviously a normal rubber dome keyboard is pretty similar in feel as well but they're not about to say that..."Pretty similar" but actually worlds apart. If they said blues without the clicky noise then I think that's more accurate :rolleyes:
I don't know what's wrong with some of the l33t g4merz and their views on keyboard brands, but I saw some comments on the youtube video stating that the new Razer switches were 'better' and that CM Storm is 'copying' them lmfao.The keyboard that introduced me to the mech keyboard world (And where I am today) is a Rosewill RK9000RE :p
Doesn't help that they're bashing topre and its rubber domes too.
Let's just hope this keyboard shuts up the naysayers and appeals to not only the enthusiasts, but up-and-coming keyboard lovers too (:
The case is not the same as a QFR IMO. You can see more of the F-row keys 'skirt', which leads me to think it is lower profile. Especially toward the top of the case, which is good because QFR's can have clearance issues in that area. Kinda hard to explain... but say you put cherry profile keycaps on a QFR, well when you bottom out a F-row key the top of the keycap will basically be flush with the case.And every switch in particular ...
Then again the switches could just be mounted higher.
yes! buy razer and spend 80% of the price in packaging. because that's what matters.;D
That's why they should produce 55g as well, regardless of turnup.It's a partnership between Topre and CM Storm, if I understand it correctly. I suppose PFU wouldn't be very happy, if CM Storm made a budget-level HHKB.
OTOH Carter has mentioned that they'd consider a 60% design, if NovaTouch *is* successful.
All these things CM are promising if Novatouch is successful - how many people are going to hold off buying the 45g TKL layout waiting for something different?
I don't know what's wrong with some of the l33t g4merz and their views on keyboard brands, but I saw some comments on the youtube video stating that the new Razer switches were 'better' and that CM Storm is 'copying' them lmfao.Razer fanboys for ya. I've had enough of them.
Doesn't help that they're bashing topre and its rubber domes too.
Let's just hope this keyboard shuts up the naysayers and appeals to not only the enthusiasts, but up-and-coming keyboard lovers too (:
Certainly not the worst either but it deserves a 80$ price tag not a 225$I don't know what's wrong with some of the l33t g4merz and their views on keyboard brands, but I saw some comments on the youtube video stating that the new Razer switches were 'better' and that CM Storm is 'copying' them lmfao.I saw all of those comments, painful to read.
Doesn't help that they're bashing topre and its rubber domes too.
Let's just hope this keyboard shuts up the naysayers and appeals to not only the enthusiasts, but up-and-coming keyboard lovers too (:
Just like this comment I saw not too long ago, just goes to show your average razer customer I guess.Show Image(http://cdn.overclock.net/9/97/900x900px-LL-970161ef_gyukghjgk.png)
oh god....
how much longer do we have to wait? Hurry up and take my parents' money already!I don't know :-[
I got to try these are PAX East as well. They really do feel like browns, except "cleaner". Just feels a bit smoother with less a bit less friction, if that makes sense.
I also got to try Cherry Greens for the first time, which are pretty cool as well. Just stiffer blues though, really.
Gritty Red as always.I got to try these are PAX East as well. They really do feel like browns, except "cleaner". Just feels a bit smoother with less a bit less friction, if that makes sense.
I also got to try Cherry Greens for the first time, which are pretty cool as well. Just stiffer blues though, really.
Yeah, IMO browns are like scratchy Topre. Obviously it's not that simple, but of all the Cherry switches, browns are the closest to me. Do you find Greens to be kind of slugish? People always call them stiff, but to me they're just like sluggy blues.
Tried it at a cooler master event. Very nice keyboard. I feel I cannot compare it to a cherry switch. It has a completely different feeling IMO. It was the first topre keyboard I tried and now I know what GH means with when they say it makes a "thock" sound.I think it makes a thock sound rather than the clacks of a cherry. Still would benefit from a silence pad though :p
Tried it at a cooler master event. Very nice keyboard. I feel I cannot compare it to a cherry switch. It has a completely different feeling IMO. It was the first topre keyboard I tried and now I know what GH means with when they say it makes a "thock" sound.Are you in Singapore or Malaysia? I'd like to know where you tried the keyboard.
Tried it at a cooler master event. Very nice keyboard. I feel I cannot compare it to a cherry switch. It has a completely different feeling IMO. It was the first topre keyboard I tried and now I know what GH means with when they say it makes a "thock" sound.Are you in Singapore or Malaysia? I'd like to know where you tried the keyboard.
Tried it at a cooler master event. Very nice keyboard. I feel I cannot compare it to a cherry switch. It has a completely different feeling IMO. It was the first topre keyboard I tried and now I know what GH means with when they say it makes a "thock" sound.I think it makes a thock sound rather than the clacks of a cherry. Still would benefit from a silence pad though :p
Ohey! You folks and the ones in OCN seem to be only one wanting one of these. :confused: :eek:
the local blokes don't really seem to be commenting on much :-X
Ohey! You folks and the ones in OCN seem to be only one wanting one of these. :confused: :eek:
the local blokes don't really seem to be commenting on much :-X
The hype's kinda died down cause of the delayed launch :/
And I don't think local folks can grasp why a 'capacitive' half rubber dome is better than the rubber domes / mech keyboards they're accustomed to :P
And btw, who's that in your avatar? Looks kind of like Yukino :P
Ohey! You folks and the ones in OCN seem to be only one wanting one of these. :confused: :eek:
the local blokes don't really seem to be commenting on much :-X
The hype's kinda died down cause of the delayed launch :/
And I don't think local folks can grasp why a 'capacitive' half rubber dome is better than the rubber domes / mech keyboards they're accustomed to :P
And btw, who's that in your avatar? Looks kind of like Yukino :P
Then again the local folks hardly comment anyway.
Yeah it did :/
It's Yatogami Tohka ;)
Most waifus looks alike, I'm afraid :P