Post by: GarrettSucks on Wed, 18 September 2019, 15:02:02
8008 INK SWITCHES
CLICK HERE FOR GROUPBUY THREAD (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108469.0)
CLICK HERE FOR GROUPBUY THREAD (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108469.0)
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I have had this idea since the inception of GMK 8008, but decided to wait to see the success of the keyset.
These will have the Gateron logo on top, unlike the renders above.
Please CLICK HERE to fill out the form if you are interested in these.
If you don't fill it out, I will not know you are interested. So please fill out. (https://forms.gle/wyTasAuMS3ePVXes8)
These will have the Gateron logo on top, unlike the renders above.
Please CLICK HERE to fill out the form if you are interested in these.
If you don't fill it out, I will not know you are interested. So please fill out. (https://forms.gle/wyTasAuMS3ePVXes8)
SPECS
Opaque Gateron Inks
Linear
Color-matched to GMK 8008
Gateron Yellow Spring
Opaque Gateron Inks
Linear
Color-matched to GMK 8008
Gateron Yellow Spring
PRICE
$0.75 / switch
$0.75 / switch
MOQ
100,000 Switches.
If I believe we can get to 50k,
I am prepared to buy out the second 50k.
100,000 Switches.
If I believe we can get to 50k,
I am prepared to buy out the second 50k.
If there seems to be enough interest in getting to the MOQ, I will run the group buy.
Post by: ABrotherThatIsUndercover on Wed, 18 September 2019, 15:03:12
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Post by: nasp on Wed, 18 September 2019, 15:04:47
Unzips... wallet
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Post by: quaddepos on Wed, 18 September 2019, 15:13:43
Yes
Nice
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Post by: LubedNReady on Wed, 18 September 2019, 15:37:02
f u c k y e s
Dixie, you are a HYPE MACHINE.
GOD BLESS.
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 18 September 2019, 15:45:57
I've had a lot of issues with milky gaterons lately so Either way is fine with me, as long as it's not milky material.
Post by: djmantis on Wed, 18 September 2019, 15:49:01
Post by: jooobe on Wed, 18 September 2019, 15:49:40
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Post by: NRbigfoot on Wed, 18 September 2019, 16:09:17
I'm down, do y'all see the form or am I blind?
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Post by: bball2 on Wed, 18 September 2019, 16:32:40
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Post by: kgorin on Wed, 18 September 2019, 17:15:38
make the top housing color the same as the bottom and I'm inPreach
Post by: mrpetrov on Wed, 18 September 2019, 18:22:18
make the top housing color the same as the bottom and I'm inPreach
I actually prefer it the way it is because then, when the switches are installed, you just get that light grey border surrounding the blue-grey top housing. I agree that standalone and uninstalled the two tone housing is a tad jarring though.
Post by: evanchnone on Wed, 18 September 2019, 19:13:23
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Post by: dallman5 on Wed, 18 September 2019, 22:41:57
Why are these ink switches? I thought ink was just gateron's name for their color tinted polycarb (clear) switches. Aren't these just a custom color like linjar?
I've had a lot of issues with milky gaterons lately so Either way is fine with me, as long as it's not milky material.
This also confused me. I mean linjar switches were only $0.35/piece at an MOQ of 20,000 and these are over double the price for 5 times the MOQ, so I would hope that they are legit inks at that price.
The legs on my milky gat tops got loose after modding them last time I built with them, but I haven't seen any issues in day-to-day usage.
Post by: lush_bunny on Thu, 19 September 2019, 03:10:22
Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Thu, 19 September 2019, 05:02:24
Why are these ink switches? I thought ink was just gateron's name for their color tinted polycarb (clear) switches. Aren't these just a custom color like linjar?
I've had a lot of issues with milky gaterons lately so Either way is fine with me, as long as it's not milky material.
This also confused me. I mean linjar switches were only $0.35/piece at an MOQ of 20,000 and these are over double the price for 5 times the MOQ, so I would hope that they are legit inks at that price.
The legs on my milky gat tops got loose after modding them last time I built with them, but I haven't seen any issues in day-to-day usage.
putting "ink" in the name doubles the price!
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Post by: nyry43 on Thu, 19 September 2019, 05:50:00
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Post by: Prelim on Thu, 19 September 2019, 09:42:47
Post by: NeroGrave on Thu, 19 September 2019, 10:14:52
Post by: AlcoholEnthusiast on Thu, 19 September 2019, 16:04:39
Is the actual housing mold different between Inks and the other Gat Linears? Because these won't come with Ink springs either?
I'm struggling to see what makes these Inks over the FEI/Tang/Linjars. I'm sure there is something I am missing - so some clarification would be great.
Post by: Draxion on Thu, 19 September 2019, 16:07:52
Post by: GarrettSucks on Thu, 19 September 2019, 16:40:50
I have reached out with this specific question, because I do not want to give a definitive answer to everyone's question, when I don't have the actual information. So I hope you can bear with me while I wait for that information.
Post by: Devilosis on Thu, 19 September 2019, 18:19:01
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Post by: jooobe on Fri, 20 September 2019, 06:53:42
So I was blindI'm down, do y'all see the form or am I blind?
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Post by: OxC0FFEE on Fri, 20 September 2019, 12:42:54
What's the big difference between the two springs?
Post by: Hedgey on Fri, 20 September 2019, 12:45:26
Yes please!
Post by: MdotMaxson on Fri, 20 September 2019, 16:05:30
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Post by: Prelim on Sat, 21 September 2019, 04:12:15
Post by: MeloDet on Sat, 21 September 2019, 10:07:52
Post by: Sintpinty on Sat, 21 September 2019, 16:48:31
8008 INK SWITCHESShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/Zz5jEWN.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/rtviVxT.jpg)Show Image(https://imgur.com/vEyE1hx.jpg)I have had this idea since the inception of GMK 8008, but decided to wait to see the success of the keyset.
These will have the Gateron logo on top, unlike the renders above.
Please CLICK HERE to fill out the form if you are interested in these.
If you don't fill it out, I will not know you are interested. So please fill out. (https://forms.gle/wyTasAuMS3ePVXes8)SPECS
Opaque Gateron Inks
Linear
Color-matched to GMK 8008
Gateron Yellow SpringPRICE
$0.75 / switchMOQ
100,000 Switches.
If I believe we can get to 50k,
I am prepared to buy out the second 50k.
If there seems to be enough interest in getting to the MOQ, I will run the group buy.
Wow
Post by: JacobTN on Sun, 20 October 2019, 19:46:30
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Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 22 October 2019, 08:53:38
https://www.keebtalk.com/t/psa-careful-with-your-leaves-when-lubing-inks/7185
Post by: rockydbull on Tue, 22 October 2019, 09:09:49
Has Gateron ever acknowledged the loose switch leaf issues with their current ink switches? Probably need to clear that up first.
https://www.keebtalk.com/t/psa-careful-with-your-leaves-when-lubing-inks/7185
Mike from novelkeys reached out to them and they said it wasn't an issue and is a known thing. Based on that I would not expect a "fix" to be coming. I think they view it as people take on their own risk when taking them apart.
Post by: vicissitude on Tue, 22 October 2019, 10:05:38
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Post by: ever9415 on Mon, 02 December 2019, 18:09:22
Any news?
Post by: GarrettSucks on Tue, 03 December 2019, 21:09:16
So many folks brought up concerns on if these were in fact inks and not just recolored yellows, because they were not smoking translucent housings. I have spent months trying to definitively get the answer to this question before even starting to plan a GB, as I do not want to mislead anyone or have anyone doubt the legitimacy of the product.
It has taken a long time to get these answers and for a while, I was pessimistic if this would ever happen, as I did not want to run the GB if I could not get a real answer.
While I don't have any actual news, I can say that the project is progressing in the right direction and is not dead yet. I will hopefully have more detailed information moving forward.
Post by: higgga on Tue, 03 December 2019, 23:20:12
Small update. Sorry for the delay.
So many folks brought up concerns on if these were in fact inks and not just recolored yellows, because they were not smoking translucent housings. I have spent months trying to definitively get the answer to this question before even starting to plan a GB, as I do not want to mislead anyone or have anyone doubt the legitimacy of the product.
It has taken a long time to get these answers and for a while, I was pessimistic if this would ever happen, as I did not want to run the GB if I could not get a real answer.
While I don't have any actual news, I can say that the project is progressing in the right direction and is not dead yet. I will hopefully have more detailed information moving forward.
I have an idea that is definitely not ideal for several reasons, and I don't even know if I would endorse it myself, but I might as well put it out there:
If you can get some pre production samples, we take a regular Gat ink and yellow and test properties such as (mainly) melting point, hardness, and perhaps other things. Then we can test the sample and see how it compares. When you add that to how it feels and sounds, we could be pretty confident in the results, but it would be infinitely better to have confirmation from Gateron.
Post by: Warrenified on Tue, 03 December 2019, 23:35:44
Post by: DoctorNunu on Wed, 04 December 2019, 00:08:30
I would buy this instantly if you can assure these switches do not have the loose leaf and loose top problem as the current state of Gateron inks.
The current condition of Inks makes me never wanna touch them again unfortunately, the original design (When they were just called Gateron Inks) is very appealing though.
Post by: MdotMaxson on Wed, 04 December 2019, 01:39:34
Small update. Sorry for the delay.
So many folks brought up concerns on if these were in fact inks and not just recolored yellows, because they were not smoking translucent housings. I have spent months trying to definitively get the answer to this question before even starting to plan a GB, as I do not want to mislead anyone or have anyone doubt the legitimacy of the product.
It has taken a long time to get these answers and for a while, I was pessimistic if this would ever happen, as I did not want to run the GB if I could not get a real answer.
While I don't have any actual news, I can say that the project is progressing in the right direction and is not dead yet. I will hopefully have more detailed information moving forward.
I have an idea that is definitely not ideal for several reasons, and I don't even know if I would endorse it myself, but I might as well put it out there:
If you can get some pre production samples, we take a regular Gat ink and yellow and test properties such as (mainly) melting point, hardness, and perhaps other things. Then we can test the sample and see how it compares. When you add that to how it feels and sounds, we could be pretty confident in the results, but it would be infinitely better to have confirmation from Gateron.
While you’re doing the melting point test. Man don’t forget to save some to send to a lab for carbon dating. We need to also check for isotopes and measure it’s rare of decay. If one starts to exhibit quantum properties then it might help us narrow down the mystery of milk yellow Smokey ink.
Post by: higgga on Wed, 04 December 2019, 02:51:28
While you’re doing the melting point test. Man don’t forget to save some to send to a lab for carbon dating. We need to also check for isotopes and measure it’s rare of decay. If one starts to exhibit quantum properties then it might help us narrow down the mystery of milk yellow Smokey ink.
While I agree more rigorous and robust investigation is necessary, I am going to have to hard disagree with these methods. The polymer chains are stable enough that carbon dating or looking for isotopes are useless. Similarly, the random walk nature of polymer chains is going to give you a hard time in terms of predicting quantum phenomena.
For real though, the real point was that if you ask for months and can't get a yes/no answer, you probably aren't going to get one, and will just have to find a way to deal with the uncertainty in some way or another.
Post by: click clack jack on Wed, 04 December 2019, 07:34:06
While you’re doing the melting point test. Man don’t forget to save some to send to a lab for carbon dating. We need to also check for isotopes and measure it’s rare of decay. If one starts to exhibit quantum properties then it might help us narrow down the mystery of milk yellow Smokey ink.
While I agree more rigorous and robust investigation is necessary, I am going to have to hard disagree with these methods. The polymer chains are stable enough that carbon dating or looking for isotopes are useless. Similarly, the random walk nature of polymer chains is going to give you a hard time in terms of predicting quantum phenomena.
For real though, the real point was that if you ask for months and can't get a yes/no answer, you probably aren't going to get one, and will just have to find a way to deal with the uncertainty in some way or another.
(He was making fun of you)
Post by: Rob27shred on Wed, 04 December 2019, 07:50:43
Has Gateron ever acknowledged the loose switch leaf issues with their current ink switches? Probably need to clear that up first.
https://www.keebtalk.com/t/psa-careful-with-your-leaves-when-lubing-inks/7185
Mike from novelkeys reached out to them and they said it wasn't an issue and is a known thing. Based on that I would not expect a "fix" to be coming. I think they view it as people take on their own risk when taking them apart.
What seriously!? I guess I heard wrong then, I thought they told Mike they are gonna work on fixing the issues. What about Zeal too, I doubt he'd let his line of switches suffer because Gateron wants to be stubborn about fixing their machinery & I have heard murmurs of the aqua Zilents having loose leaves. This is not looking good for Gateron if that is the stance they are taking. I know personally I view the loose leaves as a defect (not sure how anyone could not considering every other MX switch out there has their leaves held tight in the bottom housing & so did Gateron's switches before whatever happened to start this issue) & will not be buying anything made by Gateron till they fix the issue.
Post by: Fuzon on Wed, 04 December 2019, 14:47:13
Has Gateron ever acknowledged the loose switch leaf issues with their current ink switches? Probably need to clear that up first.
https://www.keebtalk.com/t/psa-careful-with-your-leaves-when-lubing-inks/7185
Mike from novelkeys reached out to them and they said it wasn't an issue and is a known thing. Based on that I would not expect a "fix" to be coming. I think they view it as people take on their own risk when taking them apart.
What seriously!? I guess I heard wrong then, I thought they told Mike they are gonna work on fixing the issues. What about Zeal too, I doubt he'd let his line of switches suffer because Gateron wants to be stubborn about fixing their machinery & I have heard murmurs of the aqua Zilents having loose leaves. This is not looking good for Gateron if that is the stance they are taking. I know personally I view the loose leaves as a defect (not sure how anyone could not considering every other MX switch out there has their leaves held tight in the bottom housing & so did Gateron's switches before whatever happened to start this issue) & will not be buying anything made by Gateron till they fix the issue.
The issue is seems to have been fixed, as Mike at NK is getting the new batch. The issue seems to have occurred to translucent housings, with added dye( which is why zilent blues were affected). Something about the plastic not shrinking as expected. I would imagine that if Gateron has not yet made a non translucent Ink yet, that they will have to test that on their end.
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Post by: GarrettSucks on Fri, 14 August 2020, 11:38:29
After many many many months of lost sample packages, delayed COVID packages, and every other problem that could happen, we have gotten the sample switches in! We decided to do the top and bottom housing in the same color in order to speed the process up, since you can barely see the bottom housing after installation. Gateron did a fantastic job on the custom opaque Ink plastic mixture and the color matching. These switches are as smooth as you would expect an Ink to be, but with the famous Gat Yellow spring on the inside. We are very happy with these and will be sending some to a few of our partners for reviews and Taeha Types will be doing a full build with these.
We are only awaiting Gateron's reply about production time table and then we wil have information on when the GB will happen. Hopefully we can have this information once the partners do their thoughts / reviews and builds with them.
Huge thanks to Louis from iLumKB for being an integral part in getting these switches to where they are and for helping translate for easier communication.
Below is a couple hi-res photos for you to check out the color matching.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19sdc9UrfeBTa-Mww_DtHSZHgGUcZCyMD?usp=sharing
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Post by: Techlet on Fri, 14 August 2020, 18:39:22
Curious to find out if these will have the same sound, and also if these will be plagued with loose leaves and very inconsistent scratchiness as later batches of Inks.
Post by: Omarpixel9 on Mon, 17 August 2020, 04:03:31
So, has there been any word from Gateron confirming that these are indeed actual Inks?
Curious to find out if these will have the same sound, and also if these will be plagued with loose leaves and very inconsistent scratchiness as later batches of Inks.
I'm curious as well. I feel like we need more details on these.
Post by: Domantas on Wed, 19 August 2020, 16:35:46
Post by: Domantas on Thu, 03 September 2020, 08:13:35
Nice, these look great. Will there be an EU Proxy for the GB?
+1
Post by: GarrettSucks on Thu, 03 September 2020, 20:02:10
GB Dates: Sept 6-20
Unlimited GB
$0.75 a switch
Proxies:
Dixie Mech
Mykeyboard.eu
iLumKB
Daily Clack
Post by: Stev!e on Thu, 03 September 2020, 20:07:56
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Post by: Domantas on Fri, 04 September 2020, 12:12:17
And how long will it take for me to receive it if i decide to buy it? like 2 months or more than that?+1
Post by: ab042896 on Fri, 04 September 2020, 12:17:08
Factory lubed or no?
Post by: titanium on Sun, 06 September 2020, 00:28:09
What weight(s) are going to be offered?
Factory lubed or no?
The samples that TaehaTypes trialed on his stream were not lubed. Going to be same springs as gateron yellow so 63.5g slow