[GB] Dolch.CR — 65% Modern Classic by Cary (shipping in progress)

[oldcat]

The Dolch Pac keyboard has been an iconic keyboard in the history. Now it comes back with a fresh modern look and more features than ever.

Meet Dolch.CR.

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Designed by Cary (CR), the co-designer of ALF X3 Renova and ALF DC60, the Dolch.CR is a 65% customized mechanical keyboard that perfectly integrates the retro-style of the legendary Dolch Pac keyboard with the modern elements of colors, lights, badges, weights, and others. For those 65% + retro lovers, this is for sure an end game board!

[Pictures all based on actual prototypes, 5th iteration]









Key Features:
1. Customizable badge (in place of the Dolch Badge),  underglow 4 LEDs for visual effects with PC badge.
2. Dolch Badge's 3D model design file will be shared.
3. All surface edges rounded.
4. 7-degree slope
5. Options for PC weight and Brass Weight
6. Integrated 4mm plate perfectly cut for MX switches
7. No switch leakage views
8. Default QMK PCB with USB-C, south-facing, highly-compatible with multiple layouts
9. Optional hot-swap PCB with SMD RGB LEDs, south-facing, in either WK or WKL layout
10. Aluminum 6061
11. Most popular color options of Classic Black, Gunpowder Grey or Pearl White
12. Manufactured by ALF, designed and fulfilled by Cary.

Layout Options:

Regular PCB (compatible):


Hotswap PCB (choose either WK or WKL shown below):



Color Options:

Black, Grey, Pearl White




Price

Base (Black/Grey Case, Default PCB, PC Weight, Aluminum Badge):$349
Additional gold-plated Brass Weight and gold-plated Badge: +$99
Upgrade to Pearl White color: +$49
Upgrade to Hotswap PCB: +$19
Additional Hotswap PCB: +$50

• All buyers will receive a custom abs+alu carrying case designed by Cary (>$50 value), details forthcoming.
• All buyers will receive an additional USB-C cord.
• First 30 buyers will receive an additional 3D printed PC badge.

The pricing excludes 5% payment fee and shipping via SF Express


Technical Details

1.with PC weight ~1600g
2. with brass weight ~1800g
3. Front end height is 18mm, 7-degree slope

Additional notes: The final production of the gold-plated brass badge will be further improved to be free of machine marks or fingerprints.


Timeline:

Group Buy: 30 days (12/26/2018 - 1/25/2019)
Production: 3-4 months (due to CNY)
Payment collection and shipping will be handled by Cary.

Please kindly fill out the Group Buy Form: Click to Fill Out the Dolch.CR Group Buy Form

Check your order information and status: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nosB842O4_McmALcP6HG0ClgrlgOLEoC7e6XeIN6mJ0/edit?usp=sharing

[Signature]

Approved! GL with the GB oldDOG!

[hayt]

This thing is cool. GLWB

[LightningXI]

Approved! GL with the GB oldDOG!

Hahahahah, go team pupper!

[oldcat]

Approved! GL with the GB oldDOG!

Hahahahah, go team pupper!

Haha I am actually a dog lover (have a 90 pound black lab) should have used olddog all a long

[badchad]

Entered. dream board right here


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[oldcat]

Entered. dream board right here


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Thanks for the support.
Cary sent me one of the prototypes and the build quality is THE best I have seen, having owned a number of premium boards. If you like the design this is it!
I plan to take the prototype to the upcoming AZ meetup if it is still going to happen
And friends in the PHX area feel free to stop by my office to check it out.

[koduh]

And friends in the PHX area feel free to stop by my office to check it out.

WAIT WHAT. You are in Phoenix? Have we met at a previous meetup and I not realize it? I need to see this Prototype! Serious hit me with a PM here or Reddit /u/koduh cuz I'd love to check this board out in person.

Now that I made it through Christmas I will get Phoenix meetup details arranged and announced. I set up the last two we have had. I'm thinking it will be in February at this point.

[oldcat]

And friends in the PHX area feel free to stop by my office to check it out.

WAIT WHAT. You are in Phoenix? Have we met at a previous meetup and I not realize it? I need to see this Prototype! Serious hit me with a PM here or Reddit /u/koduh cuz I'd love to check this board out in person.

Now that I made it through Christmas I will get Phoenix meetup details arranged and announced. I set up the last two we have had. I'm thinking it will be in February at this point.

Hey man, I met with a few PHX keeb buddies (in my office, haha). Was really busy during the semester, but hopefully I can make it to this year's meetup with something special. PM replied

[genesisx]

This looks awesome!!! Would be nice to actually put some vintage MX Blacks in it to make it even more retro, GL with the GB!

[Oni74]

Looking forward to joining this gb after confirming a few things:

- Grey color comparison with Doro ti grey - is it much lighter or similar?
- Hot-swap PCB: South facing? SMD LED? Confirm kailh hot-swap? Usb-c? Also qmk?
- Any chance of being able to buy an extra hot swap PCB?

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[rmendis]

Looking forward to joining this gb after confirming a few things:

- Grey color comparison with Doro ti grey - is it much lighter or similar?
- Hot-swap PCB: South facing? SMD LED? Confirm kailh hot-swap? Usb-c? Also qmk?
- Any chance of being able to buy an extra hot swap PCB?

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I would like the option to buy a 2nd PCB as well.

Here is the gray that Alf referred to in discord...

[oldcat]

Looking forward to joining this gb after confirming a few things:

- Grey color comparison with Doro ti grey - is it much lighter or similar?
- Hot-swap PCB: South facing? SMD LED? Confirm kailh hot-swap? Usb-c? Also qmk?
- Any chance of being able to buy an extra hot swap PCB?

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Hey here are the answers:
- Grey color comparison with Doro ti grey - is it much lighter or similar? As shown in the pic, it is not much lighter I think.
- Hot-swap PCB: South facing? SMD LED? Confirm kailh hot-swap? Usb-c? Also qmk?: South facing, USB-C, QMK, not sure about SMD LED yet.
- Any chance of being able to buy an extra hot swap PCB? Yes, all you need is to PM Cary when he sends an invoice.

[oldcat]

Looking forward to joining this gb after confirming a few things:

- Grey color comparison with Doro ti grey - is it much lighter or similar?
- Hot-swap PCB: South facing? SMD LED? Confirm kailh hot-swap? Usb-c? Also qmk?
- Any chance of being able to buy an extra hot swap PCB?

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Also, just confirmed with Cary about adding SMD RGB LED. Cost is going to be substantially higher but he said yes and will take the additional cost it might incur.

[Believe In Fossils]

What are those black, red, and white keycaps? Any way to get those as well?

[badchad]

What are those black, red, and white keycaps? Any way to get those as well?

I believe that's GMK Originative Cyrillic and you're best bet is aftermarket. I got mine a long time ago on mech market


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[Vigrith]

What are those black, red, and white keycaps? Any way to get those as well?

I believe that's GMK Originative Cyrillic and you're best bet is aftermarket. I got mine a long time ago on mech market

They have them in stock on Originative right now, as of a month or so ago.

[iaman]

Looking forward to joining this gb after confirming a few things:

- Grey color comparison with Doro ti grey - is it much lighter or similar?
- Hot-swap PCB: South facing? SMD LED? Confirm kailh hot-swap? Usb-c? Also qmk?
- Any chance of being able to buy an extra hot swap PCB?

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Also, just confirmed with Cary about adding SMD RGB LED. Cost is going to be substantially higher but he said yes and will take the additional cost it might incur.

Oh gosh, y’all are actually making this full-size lover consider a board that’s smaller than a TKL, I can’t believe it 😍

[prod]

Final come out, really fascinating! And the video is awesome!

[Taizong_of_Tang]

In! Super pumped for this.

[chouyu]

Black and white, I have placed orders.

[AIRPOTTER]

WOW！This product is fantastic! Good luck!

[badchad]

Switches have been ordered and will be waiting to go on this beauty


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[oldcat]

Switches have been ordered and will be waiting to go on this beauty


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Thanks for the support, my friend! What switches are you planning to use?

[oldcat]

For the Weight, some of you asked me about the choice of using PC for the default. The reason is not cost -- many of you know CNC PC is similar in cost as CNC Aluminum. The primary reason is that Cary plans to make special Black-Gold or White-Gold PCB, and the Gold Dolch.CR Logo will be seen through from a PC weight

So it is primarily for visual appealings. Also, many studios consider PC weight to be a premium feature, e.g., Percent Canoe

[oldcat]

Also, Cary said for packaging, he might be designing a customized alu/abs carrying case (worth > $50) as opposed to a normal cardboard design box. Pushing him to make this the end game for 65% lovers. Will find out as he talks to the factory about MOQ for making customized carrying cases.

[portbaron]

Is there a picture of the standard aluminum badge?

[oldcat]

Is there a picture of the standard aluminum badge?

Here you go! These two are from an earlier prototype, you can paint the words and the square. The final production will have a more snug fit.

[badchad]

Switches have been ordered and will be waiting to go on this beauty


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Thanks for the support, my friend! What switches are you planning to use?

65g zealio V2s BUT I'm hoping to buy from someone some panda switches to use the white top housing so it looks a bit like yours.


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[MU Studio-木妈妈]

it’s very nice,i like it very much.

[oldcat]

it’s very nice,i like it very much.

Thanks for your support!

[cary]

More pics

[mkarlsson]

The PCB’s don’t support split left shift?

[oldcat]

The PCB’s don’t support split left shift?

Hey correct there is no left shift split sorry

[mkarlsson]

The PCB’s don’t support split left shift?

Hey correct there is no left shift split sorry

Ouch! Ok thanks.

Just out of curiosity, is US ISO used by many people?

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[oldcat]

PC badge render:

Black part will be covered by a special made metal paper

[oldcat]

The PCB’s don’t support split left shift?

Hey correct there is no left shift split sorry

Ouch! Ok thanks.

Just out of curiosity, is US ISO used by many people?

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I have wanted to build an ISO board... feel it might mess up my typing though haha

[oldcat]

Canvas on Dolch

[mr scooty]

Canvas on Dolch

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so stoked on that pearl white

[oldcat]

Canvas on Dolch

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so stoked on that pearl white

It is THE best finish on a keyboard I ever seen

If you want a white board Pearl White is the way to go.

[oldcat]

Update for the customized carrying case for every GB participant! What do you think and what other features do you want? Let us know and we may be able to make it happen! #designing your endgame 65%.

Haha looks like a firearm case

[mr scooty]

Update for the customized carrying case for every GB participant! What do you think and what other features do you want? Let us know and we may be able to make it happen! #designing your endgame 65%.

Haha looks like a firearm case

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WOW!  Those are legit. No ideas on how to add to customization other than more badges or something  ) but either way, happy to be a part of this gb

[oldcat]

Update for the customized carrying case for every GB participant! What do you think and what other features do you want? Let us know and we may be able to make it happen! #designing your endgame 65%.

Haha looks like a firearm case

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WOW!  Those are legit. No ideas on how to add to customization other than more badges or something  ) but either way, happy to be a part of this gb

Maybe some patterns related to Dolch on the case?

[cary]

Hi everyone, I am Cary, the designer of DOLCH.CR, thank you very much for your attention to DCR.
I am currently designing a carrying case

[oldcat]

Hi everyone, I am Cary, the designer of DOLCH.CR, thank you very much for your attention to DCR.
I am currently designing a carrying case

Keep the goodies going let us know when you finalize the design.

[tonny950111]

Super dope

[linyaofred]

just add to my must-buy list

[hillmu]

this is so cool, place order for sure

[oldcat]

this is so cool, place order for sure

Thanks for the support.

[cary]

All DCR supporters will get this board line for free

[oldcat]

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All DCR supporters will get this board line for free ;D ;D ;D

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Thanks! Updated this in the first post.

[pp]

Great design. I'm in.

[oldcat]

Great design. I'm in.

Thanks for the support bro

[Darknight00z]

Hello All,

Welcome to the ALF x Cary — 65% Modern Classic Dolch.CR GB. I'm not trying to cause trouble, but I wish to inform buyers new to ALF manufacturing and what to expect.

Caveat Emptor folks!

Alf has a history of delays, look at dc60, alf x3 renova, alf x2, and currently doro67 and x11 are behind schedule.

My dc60 order and 19 other orders are still waiting for Alf to ship the replacements, after 2months since everyone else has received orders. I am not attacking Alf, but simply tell the facts as is. iLouise has been doing his best, but beyond daily reminders to Alf, there isn't much else he can do to get the remaining 20 dc60 orders shipped.

Delays happen and that understandable, but Alf has made countless promises on when items would be shipped, and have missed those dates.

You may say that I am picking on Alf when there are other GBs with more significant delays and sub-par quality products. The state of other poorly run GBs are fairly well known, but I thought with Alf regularly taking new orders. His style of manufacturing should be highlighted. Delays may be the norm, but we should have better communications and not false promises. Secondly, these other GBs are not taking on new orders and projects while existing orders are still behind schedule. Alf is running this as a business, and yet we as customers are being treated as second rate.

I know I am going to ruffle some feathers and take some heat for speaking out, oldcat/SugaaH is going to defend Alf. But I felt it was necessary to point out the issues before it got any worse. I hope I don't get attacked too severely for getting this off my chest.

I hope you enter this GB knowing the situation and that Alf is taking 2 projects at the exact same time, this round. G80 and the 65% Dolch.CR

Kind Regards,

P.S. Did not expect this to become an open letter, but as I was typing and editing, it sort of became one.

[Justin_aka_OsP_SSJ4]

I would like to echo the above post. I made a more detailed post of my recent experience here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96616.350

Frankly resolving peoples incorrect orders from 2 months ago doesnt seem to be a priority for Alf.

[oldcat]

Hello All,

Welcome to the ALF x Cary — 65% Modern Classic Dolch.CR GB. I'm not trying to cause trouble, but I wish to inform buyers new to ALF manufacturing and what to expect.

Caveat Emptor folks!

Alf has a history of delays, look at dc60, alf x3 renova, alf x2, and currently doro67 and x11 are behind schedule.

My dc60 order and 19 other orders are still waiting for Alf to ship the replacements, after 2months since everyone else has received orders. I am not attacking Alf, but simply tell the facts as is. iLouise has been doing his best, but beyond daily reminders to Alf, there isn't much else he can do to get the remaining 20 dc60 orders shipped.

Delays happen and that understandable, but Alf has made countless promises on when items would be shipped, and have missed those dates.

You may say that I am picking on Alf when there are other GBs with more significant delays and sub-par quality products. The state of other poorly run GBs are fairly well known, but I thought with Alf regularly taking new orders. His style of manufacturing should be highlighted. Delays may be the norm, but we should have better communications and not false promises. Secondly, these other GBs are not taking on new orders and projects while existing orders are still behind schedule. Alf is running this as a business, and yet we as customers are being treated as second rate.

I know I am going to ruffle some feathers and take some heat for speaking out, oldcat/SugaaH is going to defend Alf. But I felt it was necessary to point out the issues before it got any worse. I hope I don't get attacked too severely for getting this off my chest.

I hope you enter this GB knowing the situation and that Alf is taking 2 projects at the exact same time, this round. G80 and the 65% Dolch.CR

Kind Regards,

P.S. Did not expect this to become an open letter, but as I was typing and editing, it sort of became one.

Thanks for the message. It’s a great point. But I would add that the shipping time also depends on how much designer pushes Alf. Sirius from the UniGo66 GB delivered many before estimated timeframe.

[Justin_aka_OsP_SSJ4]

Thanks for the message. It’s a great point. But I would add that the shipping time also depends on how much designer pushes Alf. Sirius from the UniGo66 GB delivered many before estimated timeframe.

Having to be reminded to manufacture and ship products is not exactly something to be bragged about. Just emphasizes the point that buyers should be wary of Alf products.

Also as a gb runner. Louis has been absolutely fantastic and responds to all messages, tags and posts in a timely manner. Doing his best to update us and push Alf for information regularly. The blame is not on anyone but Alf.

[cary]

Thank you for your support for ALF studio, and for showing interest in our products. As for your issues with the delay of DC60 and X1.1, as I know, the issues do exist. For X1.1, it is because ALF made wrong PCBs and they were re-designed and re-made. ALF has been actively working on it. For DC60, part of it is that the SF Express messed up a number of orders, and some were found to have issues. Therefore, ALF decided to re-make those DC60, and rest assured, they will be delivered to your door. As part of them are already shipping.

For the above 2 reasons, we can provide pictures about the wrong PCBs we made and the problematic DC60 because of the shipping process. Believe me, we really wanted to ship early but there are unforeseeable issues for GBs at this scale.

As for the issue you raised about whether we do new GBs when old GBs were not delivered. I want to clarify the composition of the ALF team. ALF is a team with designers and manufacturing individuals. Many of the GBs are actually manufacturing jobs, e.g., Doro67. The author is a working partner but not part of ALF. Oldcat is a special case as he has been providing pro bono help for many of the GBs to lower the GB runner-related costs.

For Doro67, all the items have been done and awaiting 80ultraman's QC examination, and they will be packed and shipped by 80ultraman.

Again, thank you for your support and trust. The DC60 and X1.1 you purchased will be delivered to you soon. We felt bad about the delay, but please trust that we have been diligently working on all the problems that arose without we expecting them.

[AIRPOTTER]

Nice work!!

[oldcat]

Nice work!!

Thanks! Cary puts a lot of time into this one!

[oldcat]

to avoid any kind of delay and possibly deliver early, Cary has started the CNC process for Dolch.CR! Still time to join to get this amazing board!

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[Ruler]

First buy first entertained

[oldcat]

As for recent criticism of shipping speed of DC60, I have chatted a number of times with Cary, and he said he is doing his best to ensure there is no delay, and targeting early shipping. And he will improve the process to ensure the shipping address accuracy.

In doing that, he already started the CNC process (based on current estimates of the total GB numbers) in advance to make sure of that. And Cary will fulfill all the boards.

[hamad]

I am new to group buys on geekhack and I have a question.
For the payment, the form say paypal email. Does it mean I need to have a paypal account or is it just a paypal invoce (no account needed)?
Thanks!

[oldcat]

I am new to group buys on geekhack and I have a question.
For the payment, the form say paypal email. Does it mean I need to have a paypal account or is it just a paypal invoce (no account needed)?
Thanks!

Hey you will need a paypal account I believe. Put in your paypal email in the GB form, and Cary will send an invoice.

[oldcat]

Typing demo featuring little Cary

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[oldcat]

3 days left!

[oldcat]

Last 2 days to join the GB!

[oldcat]

Last day to join!

[oldcat]

Thanks everyone for a successful Dolch.CR GB! CNC is in process and Cary is totally on top of it and is committed to make it a smooth GB experience. For those who have paid and want to check order specifications and status (tracking will be added when shipped), please click here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nosB842O4_McmALcP6HG0ClgrlgOLEoC7e6XeIN6mJ0/edit?usp=sharing

For those who received an invoice and have not paid yet (not shown in the spreadsheet), please kindly pay within 48 hours, make a payment plan with Cary, or cancel the invoice, thank you!

[oldcat]

Happy birthday, Cary!

[Peripheral Prophet]

Can I still purchase one of these?  I want the grey with gold weight and badge

[US2040248A]

excited!

[oldcat]

Just wanted to say that the fine crew on discord helped me find a great keycap set for this keyboard after looking for quite a while.

https://kbdfans.cn/products/gbenjoypbt-grayscale-keycaps-set

I am admittedly a noob, but it was quite difficult finding a set that had all the keys needed (especially the spacebar), options for MacOS, and look right for this keyboard. Luckily, I think the enjoypbt grayscale set is a winner, and currently available. As a bonus, enjoyPBT seems to be a well regarded team that makes good keycaps. Hope this helps someone.

A few questions for anyone familiar with customs and QMK:

• What is the process for flashing on of these boards? Just use a QMK configurator to build the layout you want and use a flash tool? Can this be done under MacOS?
  
• Does the capslock key automatically stay lit up when activated... or do you need to configure that too? If so, how?

Really excited for this board. It looks perfectly retro. I'm planning to use kailh box whites or jades in mine.

Hey we will work on the qmk porting as well as VIA configurator, and a instruction will be provided.  Capslock will lit up.

[oldcat]

CNC partly done, anodization partly done, and PCB also in progress! Will share some pictures.

[oldcat]

Currently working on Via support for Dolch.Cr, thanks to Sirius and Scott Wei!

[bardomudo]

Nevermind.

[oldcat]

Some updates:

It is progressing well, most of the things are done. I would expect shipping to start sometime in April. Hopefull all goes well from here.

Some pictures of the bonus case for everyone!

[Mearaz]

any updates on when it will be ship?

[koduh]

Bump - Any new updates on eta for sorting/shipping?

[Obe]

How's this gonna work now that alf is leaving the community due to all the drama?

[Oni74]

How's this gonna work now that alf is leaving the community due to all the drama?

Cary committed to complete manufacturing and start delivery mid-may. This was announced in the GB discord channel.

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[Obe]

Oh I'm not in the gb so it doesn't matter to me, was thinking there would be a statement regarding the fact that alf is leaving the community and how that would affect the gb. Glad to see it is still happening though 

[koduh]

Any updates for estimated shipping dates?

[oldcat]

Update:

First batch of PVD brass weights do not meet Cary’s QC standards and they are all re-done.

[oldcat]

shipping invoicing soon

[oldcat]

Some brass parts were having minor marks, Cary decided to discard all of them and remake with the best craftsmanship. They will be ready soon.

[koduh]

I paid my shipping invoice and have not seen any updates in nearly a month. I saw a post on r/MK someone has theirs. What's going on with this GB?

[Oni74]

I paid my shipping invoice and have not seen any updates in nearly a month. I saw a post on r/MK someone has theirs. What's going on with this GB?

I messaged with Cary earlier today on Discord. He said non-hotswap boards have been shipped and hotswap boards will be shipped in the next 48 hours. He also added that up to 10 days will be needed for delivery. I asked about the shipping carrier but didn't say. Based on this information, we can probably assume that everything will be shipped out by EOD Wednesday, add about ten days for delivery, so July 8th at the latest for all deliveries.

If you want timely updates and/or want to interact with Cary, I suggest you join the Dolch.CR Discord channel (https://discord.gg/KfXYyZ)

[Jinnnxxu]

 
A typing test with Dolch.CR

[oldcat]

shipping is in progress

[ZG2047]

Where is the USB port on this PCB please ?
Is it possible to purchase the PCB standalone ?

[Rah3000]

Anyone with a hotswap pcb receive their board yet?

[US2040248A]

Anyone with a hotswap pcb receive their board yet?

Yes people have received theres but the WKL hotswaps did not ship yet.

[merlin64]

Hey everyone. For those wanting to program their hotswap wk board, I discovered that it is identical in switch matrix and pins used to the doro67 rgb.

If you would like to program your board using QMK Configurator, please use: https://config.qmk.fm/#/doro67/rgb/LAYOUT

[US2040248A]

Hey everyone. For those wanting to program their hotswap wk board, I discovered that it is identical in switch matrix and pins used to the doro67 rgb.

If you would like to program your board using QMK Configurator, please use: https://config.qmk.fm/#/doro67/rgb/LAYOUT

Do you know if the WK hotswap kb is supported?

[merlin64]

You can try.

[portbaron]

So how are we programming the regular PCB? I tried the doro67 qmk above and now the pcb is totally unresponsive.

[US2040248A]

So how are we programming the regular PCB? I tried the doro67 qmk above and now the pcb is totally unresponsive.

Yea who knows... kind of disappointed in the way the gb is going so far. Constructive feedback:

1. It was promised that the board would support QMK/VIA. 2 weeks ago Cary said "QMK is currently supported, and the via service will be available in two weeks". Well it's two weeks later and not a peep from him since then and we have guys like Merlin doing gods work and having to hack scripts himself. Cary shared some .json file with no clear instructions on which pcb is supported or what we have to do to use it. The right thing to do would have been for the boards to have shipped with working QMK and/or VIA or at the very least a timeline on when the software will be released and updates leading to it.

2. Cary has been super unresponsive. Both to PMs on here and on the discord. Still waiting on for shipping info on my black WK hotswap...

3. Cary should be posting regular updates here instead of random messages on Discord. Or better yet, how about just emailing everyone in the GB? You have all of their emails after all. There was a period of time where Cary went silent and claimed China was cracking down on VPNs or something. I don't buy it. There is always a way to message us. Overall it's a communications mess. Which keyboards have shipped? What's the status on the ones that haven't shipped? What's the status on QMK and VIA?

I do think everything will be sorted out eventually, but at this point many of us don't know when our keyboards will ship, or if you've gotten your dolch.cr you don't know when you will be able to actually use it.

[Rah3000]

Any updates?

[cary]

Update：2019.08.14
Delivery progress 70%
WKL version hotswap PCB production problems, need to be re-made
The delivery date is not fixed, I will provide compensation (an artisan keycap)
SORRY FOR THAT！

[cary]

So how are we programming the regular PCB? I tried the doro67 qmk above and now the pcb is totally unresponsive.

Yea who knows... kind of disappointed in the way the gb is going so far. Constructive feedback:

1. It was promised that the board would support QMK/VIA. 2 weeks ago Cary said "QMK is currently supported, and the via service will be available in two weeks". Well it's two weeks later and not a peep from him since then and we have guys like Merlin doing gods work and having to hack scripts himself. Cary shared some .json file with no clear instructions on which pcb is supported or what we have to do to use it. The right thing to do would have been for the boards to have shipped with working QMK and/or VIA or at the very least a timeline on when the software will be released and updates leading to it.

2. Cary has been super unresponsive. Both to PMs on here and on the discord. Still waiting on for shipping info on my black WK hotswap...

3. Cary should be posting regular updates here instead of random messages on Discord. Or better yet, how about just emailing everyone in the GB? You have all of their emails after all. There was a period of time where Cary went silent and claimed China was cracking down on VPNs or something. I don't buy it. There is always a way to message us. Overall it's a communications mess. Which keyboards have shipped? What's the status on the ones that haven't shipped? What's the status on QMK and VIA?

I do think everything will be sorted out eventually, but at this point many of us don't know when our keyboards will ship, or if you've gotten your dolch.cr you don't know when you will be able to actually use it.

I apologize for the lack of communication, most of the information is posted on DISCORD
Due to PCB production issues, I have been busy with PCB re-production recently. Ignore the importance of communication and apologize again

Two serious accidents occurred in the production of DOLCH.CR.
1.  the surface treatment (PVD) of the weight has liquid traces, and all the weights are completely remade.
2. PCB production has encountered trouble and needs to be re-made. Recently, the factory has encountered typhoon weather, resulting in very low efficiency.

The above two reasons lead to the extension of the shipment, the current delivery schedule is 70%，and I will provide compensation to buyers who have not shipped.

[US2040248A]

I apologize for the lack of communication, most of the information is posted on DISCORD
Due to PCB production issues, I have been busy with PCB re-production recently. Ignore the importance of communication and apologize again

And yet you go silent again... people have been waiting for WEEKS with no update.

We don't want the "compensation" novelty key you're providing. We just want regular updates to know what's going on. Keep the novelty key.

[US2040248A]

Never got my board and Cary is nowhere to be found. I hope people take note of this for any future GBs run by this group of people

[mr scooty]

Tried the discord? Usually somewhat responsive on there

[okidna]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/diy-kit/products/coming-soon-epoch-80-mechanical-keyboard

I cannot help but noticed "Design by CARY WORKS". Did Cary finished Dolch.CR and move on to design new keyboard?

[dantambok]

Anyone know which firmware works for the non-hotswap pcb?

[Oni74]

Anyone know which firmware works for the non-hotswap pcb?

It should be the same as doro 67 pcb. Note there are different version of doro 67 so you'll need to find the right one. Both pcb were designed by the same guy, and Mechmerlin confirmed that doro 67 firmware works with d.cr.  Hope this helps.

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[dantambok]

It should be the same as doro 67 pcb. Note there are different version of doro 67 so you'll need to find the right one. Both pcb were designed by the same guy, and Mechmerlin confirmed that doro 67 firmware works with d.cr.  Hope this helps.

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i tried all 3 but none of them worked for me 

[eargo]

I’m having an issue with my dolch.cr where it is flashing successfully using QMK Toolbox, but its registering the wrong keys. Has anybody had the same issue was able to solve it?

So far I have tried all 3 doro67 firmwares and the firmware provided by the maker.

[Oni74]

I’m having an issue with my dolch.cr where it is flashing successfully using QMK Toolbox, but its registering the wrong keys. Has anybody had the same issue was able to solve it?

So far I have tried all 3 doro67 firmwares and the firmware provided by the maker.

Have you tried using Doro67 VIA firmware and using VIA to configure your board?

[eargo]

no, have not tried that yet. will look into that. thank you!

[eargo]

I’m having an issue with my dolch.cr where it is flashing successfully using QMK Toolbox, but its registering the wrong keys. Has anybody had the same issue was able to solve it?

So far I have tried all 3 doro67 firmwares and the firmware provided by the maker.

Have you tried using Doro67 VIA firmware and using VIA to configure your board?

just tried this now. unfortunately, I am still encountering the same issues, which are:
1) all working keys (only around 10 keys) activate the wrong keys even when it is correctly mapped in Via. Example, pressing the left shift key activates < key and pressing Z key activates M.
2) the rest of the 50+ keys are all unresponsive
3) going back to the vendor firmware exhibits same issues above, but the keys that respond are in a different location. (example: ESC activates TAB, Caps Lock activates Left Shift)

I have tried all 3 doro67 via firmwares and they all have the same issues stated above.
have flashed 5 different boards before and have not encountered an issue like this. at this point, I am thinking there might be an issue with my PCB.

[eargo]

was finally able to solve the issue with my board. thanks @dantambok

apparently, there are many versions of PCB for this board. I just had to use the correct one.

[hzh0525]

What a classical design! I missed it and a similar artwork - Class 80 last year...