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Title: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 27 November 2018, 22:14:26
A meticulously crafted PVD plate designed hand-in-hand with the tasteful black & copper PCB for increased flex lends itself to an experience so (https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/499413096142471168.png), that you will get even more #feelios from your V2 Zealios and Zilents.
Enter Xeno.


Do you fancy half plates, or prefer a more traditional full plate? The choice is yours, simply click below two images to view the product page.

Early Bird Special: $40 off your XENO order with discount code "EARLYBIRD". Valid until Dec 2, 2018, 23:59PST.

Half Plate | Silver | Rose Gold PVD - Starting from $460
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/xenowa.png) (https://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders/products/gb-xeno-75-custom-keyboard-kit-half-plate)

Full Plate | Purple | Silver PVD - Starting from $460
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/Purple_Xeno_Silver_PVD_7cd647b2-2861-40c3-bc70-0956ea00f781.jpg) (https://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders/products/gb-xeno-75-custom-keyboard-kit-full-plate)

Renders with Keycaps on
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484523078567723009/517131345521147925/Xeno_Angle-1.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484523078567723009/517131345974001674/Xeno_Top-1.jpg)



Contents:
- XENO Black & Silver Storage Box
- XENO 75% Aluminum Keyboard Kit
- XENO Special Edition Black & Copper PCB for increased feelios
- 1.5mm PVD & Hand Polished Brass Plate
- PVD & Hand Polished Brass Weight
- 1x 6.25u OR 7u, 3x 2u Zeal Screw-in Stabilizers (mention preference in checkout notes). Default is 6.25u if no comment.
- Custom 3M Bumpons
- Matching accent screws to your PVD Brass Plate / Weight
- You have the option to add 85x Zealios/Zilents/Tealios/Healios to your order for +$60 (Zealios V2 & Tealios), or +$70 (Zilents V2 & Healios).

Specs:

- USB C
- QMK Compatible
- Black & Copper Aesthetics PCB by Wilba
- Factory Soldered SMD Parts
- ANSI Full Plate. WK & WKL Only
(1.25/1.25/1.25/6.25/1.25/1.25/gap/1/1/1) OR (1.5/1/1.5/7/1.5/gap/1/1/1)
Regular/Stepped Caps Lock Support
Split Backspace Support
Total kit weight before PCB: ~2.4kg


Case Color Options:
Black
Silver
Purple

Brass Color Options:
Rose Gold PVD
Silver PVD
Black PVD

GB Open:November 26, 2018 to February 15, 2019, 23:59 PST.
Estimated shipping time frame is April-May, 2019 due to Chinese New Year Holidays during February. This also allows customers to recover from the Christmas Holiday spending.




Please note that any order changes to the XENO will require a full cancellation of the kit in order to properly keep track of inventory. Any applicable early bird discounts will be forfeited.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 27 November 2018, 22:14:33
July 3 update:
Xeno acrylic logo for the singular RGB LED (top right) received.

July 10 update:

Manufacturer has informed us that Xenos with Silver and black PVD parts will be packed and shipping to us around Saturday (7/13). Rose gold pieces are being redone as we feel it wasn't "rose" enough. Video of rejected rose gold plate: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/520952745612673024/598185992557690900/1562689018757.mp4


If you'd like to join our discord, you can click the below link. Some images/videos are easier to share there:
https://zealpc.net/discord
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Photoelectric on Tue, 27 November 2018, 23:48:41
Approval bump.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ItsAllen on Wed, 28 November 2018, 00:03:01
Iím in for a black+rose gold combo.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: clickityClackity on Wed, 28 November 2018, 00:30:31
Love the layout! Couple questions: is there a split spacebar option for this PCB, and do the three holes in top have LED's that can be utilized?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 28 November 2018, 00:42:42
Love the layout! Couple questions: is there a split spacebar option for this PCB, and do the three holes in top have LED's that can be utilized?
From my understanding:
- no split spacebars
- top right has an RGB LED.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Poblopuablo on Wed, 28 November 2018, 01:01:22


Please note that any order changes to the XENO will require a full cancellation of the kit in order to properly keep track of inventory. Any applicable early bird discounts will be forfeited.

What if I am waiting on my sample of zealios v2 to come? I'd liketo try them out before I go ham and order them w/o trying but I'd also like to get Early bird discount.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Starston3 on Wed, 28 November 2018, 01:06:16


Please note that any order changes to the XENO will require a full cancellation of the kit in order to properly keep track of inventory. Any applicable early bird discounts will be forfeited.

What if I am waiting on my sample of zealios v2 to come? I'd liketo try them out before I go ham and order them w/o trying but I'd also like to get Early bird discount.

You can order now with switches and get the discount. If you donít like the V2 you can always just resell them.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 28 November 2018, 03:18:17
whats peoples thoughts on the half plate vs full plate? I am thinking of selling off one or two of my other board's to try and get this one. Kinda a end game be all end all board for me.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: amnesia0287 on Wed, 28 November 2018, 04:11:28
No way to get a extra plate in the other style?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Windeh on Wed, 28 November 2018, 04:20:50
Any way to get extra PCB? Cus PCBs die.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 28 November 2018, 04:50:48
No way to get a extra plate in the other style?

Any way to get extra PCB? Cus PCBs die.


Since the box is custom designed to fit one XENO each, there's no other room to fit other accessories in order to keep the volumetric / actual weight down for shipping.

Like the Zephyr, the XENO will be screwed together in the box, with the PCB on the top layer.

For time being, extras won't be offered.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: donut_sauce on Wed, 28 November 2018, 05:36:57
It's here!  :)
Can I ask how tall the front is?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: hervuli on Wed, 28 November 2018, 08:00:20
No way to get a extra plate in the other style?

Any way to get extra PCB? Cus PCBs die.

Since the box is custom designed to fit one XENO each, there's no other room to fit other accessories in order to keep the volumetric / actual weight down for shipping.

Like the Zephyr, the XENO will be screwed together in the box, with the PCB on the top layer.

For time being, extras won't be offered.

I'll buy this anyway because I love the layout, but I really, really dislike this - it's so common for buyers of high-end customs to buy multiple PCBs and plates for a variety of reasons (if a PCB dies, if you want to build with different switch types, etc). I can't think of any GBs other than this and the Zephyr that didn't make this an option. I think "but it has a nice box" is a silly reason if purely aesthetic - perhaps more reasonable if it keeps things simple in terms of a single shipping box size, but it seems like enough people would buy an extra plate+PCB combo to make it worth it.

Even Rama's board GBs, where there's a similar zeal (ahem) for aesthetics in the packaging etc, allow for the purchase of extras.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 28 November 2018, 13:54:40
It's here!  :)
Can I ask how tall the front is?

20mm with bumpons applied.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: emilee12 on Wed, 28 November 2018, 20:06:12
Can I ask the material of PCB? FR4?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: dallman5 on Thu, 29 November 2018, 00:24:19
Would it be possible to see some better pictures of the prototype? Perhaps something showing off the side profile or weight. Not sure if this is doable before the early bird deadline closes, but if so that would be great!

Also, what is the typing angle? I don't see it mentioned anywhere.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Thu, 29 November 2018, 00:59:32
Can I ask the material of PCB? FR4?

FR4


Also, what is the typing angle? I don't see it mentioned anywhere.

Angle is 7

Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: eyedrop on Thu, 29 November 2018, 01:42:02
I want to see how the purple case match with the rose gold plate/weight.   :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: krey on Fri, 30 November 2018, 00:48:38
Thank you for the GB window period. Gives me time to gather funds for it.

Can't wait!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: mrpetrov on Fri, 30 November 2018, 08:03:48
This is really stunning. Great layout too, and I love the little triumvirate of lights.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: xondat on Fri, 30 November 2018, 08:08:18
Thank you Pwner, very cool!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: DocNoc on Fri, 30 November 2018, 17:07:01
Would it be possible to see some better pictures of the prototype? Perhaps something showing off the side profile or weight. Not sure if this is doable before the early bird deadline closes, but if so that would be great!

Also, what is the typing angle? I don't see it mentioned anywhere.

I'd also like to see some more quality shots of your prototype if possible!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Sun, 02 December 2018, 02:37:20
Extra parts are now available:

PCB (https://zealpc.net/products/xeno-pcb)
Plate (https://zealpc.net/products/xeno-plate)

If you have already ordered, contact Zeal or reply to your order to have parts added.

Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Wilba on Sun, 02 December 2018, 02:56:07
Extra parts are now available:

PCB (https://zealpc.net/products/xeno-pcb)
Plate (https://zealpc.net/products/xeno-plate)

If you have already ordered, contact Zeal or reply to your order to have parts added.

Why is there no image of the PCB on Zeal's site? Because Wilba is a fussy bastard and the renders he makes are too meh for his taste.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 02 December 2018, 03:09:47
Extra parts are now available:

PCB (https://zealpc.net/products/xeno-pcb)
Plate (https://zealpc.net/products/xeno-plate)

If you have already ordered, contact Zeal or reply to your order to have parts added.

Why is there no image of the PCB on Zeal's site? Because Wilba is a fussy bastard and the renders he makes are too meh for his taste.

i was ready to be like "dont talk **** on my man" and then i realized you are the man

nice
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: hervuli on Sun, 02 December 2018, 08:19:41
Extra parts are now available:

PCB (https://zealpc.net/products/xeno-pcb)
Plate (https://zealpc.net/products/xeno-plate)

If you have already ordered, contact Zeal or reply to your order to have parts added.

 :thumb: aaand now y'all will have more of my money. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: jizzaztartist on Sun, 02 December 2018, 15:41:39
oof, shame about the branding on the weight
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: menuhin on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:18:29
oof, shame about the branding on the weight

Xeno's original idea of branding, e.g. predator inspired logo will not be on the weight??
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Sun, 02 December 2018, 17:51:45
oof, shame about the branding on the weight

ok


oof, shame about the branding on the weight

Xeno's original idea of branding, e.g. predator inspired logo will not be on the weight??

My logo on the outside to keep it relatively clean and simple, board name on the inside.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MightyFineShindig on Wed, 05 December 2018, 06:58:21
Is the purple for the case aiming to match the purple of zealios? It looks quite dark and blue.
Anyway, I'm in for purple/silver :D
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Wed, 05 December 2018, 17:11:54
Is the purple for the case aiming to match the purple of zealios? It looks quite dark and blue.
Anyway, I'm in for purple/silver :D

It will be the same as the purple from r2 of the zephyr gb.

(http://i.imgur.com/KKJCJp5.jpg)

There should be more images of those once people start getting them in so you can get a better idea of the color.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: menuhin on Sun, 09 December 2018, 06:11:00
Have to voice out my long hidden question / wish:

Does the current PCB design (which already looks great) support any type of hot sockets for make it hot swappable?

I haven't invested in one of those multi-hundred dollar desoldering setup and every time I desolder something I burned, tore, and damaged the pad and the circuit.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Sun, 09 December 2018, 08:23:55
Have to voice out my long hidden question / wish:

Does the current PCB design (which already looks great) support any type of hot sockets for make it hot swappable?

I haven't invested in one of those multi-hundred dollar desoldering setup and every time I desolder something I burned, tore, and damaged the pad and the circuit.

I have led/switch holtites and mill max sockets on the way from another user that I will be using to test that.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ian13 on Mon, 10 December 2018, 08:24:37
Please show us more pictures of the prototype pretty please?
I can't decide between black with rose gold polished plate or silver with polished black plate -_-
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: bobdenard on Mon, 10 December 2018, 10:03:12
I agree, more renders wouldnít hurt, especially with keycaps on.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Zeal on Mon, 10 December 2018, 17:33:33
We are working on getting the other offered colours made. Once completed, we'll take new pictures. Pwner is also working on more renders as well.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: forevermadrigal on Mon, 10 December 2018, 17:34:27
Hopefully one of the side angle :p
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: GrizzlyAL on Wed, 12 December 2018, 13:05:35
Is the Xeno pad a possibility now? I'd love to have both!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: bthezebra on Wed, 12 December 2018, 14:05:50
Is the Xeno pad a possibility now? I'd love to have both!
Oh god how could I forget about the pad!? I agree with GrizzlyAL 100%
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: jackedhardwarejunkie on Wed, 12 December 2018, 14:07:38
My wife rages on me because I only have 75%s I'd grab one too just to stahp that
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: cirrus82 on Wed, 26 December 2018, 12:29:17
Really curious about the pad too. I'm torn on getting another 75%, but I'd be in for sure if I knew a pad was still in the works.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: dwmsuh on Fri, 28 December 2018, 01:14:11
Curious what the Purple with a Rose Gold plate would look like. I'm a sucker for gold/rose gold but not sure if the two will mesh together ^-^
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: booleanjulien on Fri, 28 December 2018, 06:46:24
Curious what the Purple with a Rose Gold plate would look like. I'm a sucker for gold/rose gold but not sure if the two will mesh together ^-^

I would also love to see this!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Nagato on Fri, 28 December 2018, 07:05:45
Any way to get extra PCB? Cus PCBs die.

I think you can get the pcb seperately here: https://zealpc.net/products/xeno-pcb (https://zealpc.net/products/xeno-pcb)
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Fri, 28 December 2018, 09:31:10
Curious what the Purple with a Rose Gold plate would look like. I'm a sucker for gold/rose gold but not sure if the two will mesh together ^-^

I would also love to see this!

Thatís the combo I just went with.

Now for keycaps. The PBT slate has caught my eye .


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: DillonHightower on Fri, 28 December 2018, 13:44:59
Xeno pad would make this a must buy for me. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: dwmsuh on Sat, 29 December 2018, 13:18:55
Deleting my post because I figured out the answer (it was a dumb question) sorry!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Sent on Sat, 29 December 2018, 13:48:49
What color do I get... :confused:

And lol Zeal, I totally forgot about that quote.  Ancient Chinese wisdom.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Photoelectric on Sat, 29 December 2018, 13:57:25
What color do I get... :confused:

And lol Zeal, I totally forgot about that quote.  Ancient Chinese wisdom.

Silver/rose gold, of course!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Sent on Sat, 29 December 2018, 15:33:36
Silver/rose gold, of course!

I was never classy like you, Photo.  Think I'm on a black on black on black kick this time around.  :p  Curious to see black case with black pvd.  Stealthy and sleek? :thinking:
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: whentheclouds on Sun, 30 December 2018, 00:48:34
We are working on getting the other offered colours made. Once completed, we'll take new pictures. Pwner is also working on more renders as well.
which colors are you referring to?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ian13 on Sun, 30 December 2018, 07:21:06
I really wanted to see silver on black pvd or silver on rose gold pvd or black on rose gold pvd prototypes. Also, from the renders, black seems to be like a very dark gray? Is it going to that way or will it be black as in real black?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Sun, 30 December 2018, 20:04:26
Silver/rose gold, of course!

I was never classy like you, Photo.  Think I'm on a black on black on black kick this time around.    Curious to see black case with black pvd.  Stealthy and sleek? :thinking:
I went with the same combo. Black on black on black. Gonna throw gmk terminal on there and call it a day :)
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Sun, 30 December 2018, 20:08:47
I really wanted to see silver on black pvd or silver on rose gold pvd or black on rose gold pvd prototypes. Also, from the renders, black seems to be like a very dark gray? Is it going to that way or will it be black as in real black?

We are waiting on new samples of all available color options!  Machining is done, waiting on the PVD finish.


Silver/rose gold, of course!

I was never classy like you, Photo.  Think I'm on a black on black on black kick this time around.    Curious to see black case with black pvd.  Stealthy and sleek? :thinking:
I went with the same combo. Black on black on black. Gonna throw gmk terminal on there and call it a day :)

Black on black is the move.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: jackedhardwarejunkie on Sun, 30 December 2018, 20:10:36
Black on black on black here as well, but I shall not reveal the set for it jus yet
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: bthezebra on Sun, 30 December 2018, 20:24:44
Black on black on black here as well, but I shall not reveal the set for it jus yet
Taking a guess and thinking GMK Taro.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: breckstar on Tue, 01 January 2019, 08:16:56
Hoping to see a purple rose gold (or silver) Laser combo
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: menuhin on Tue, 01 January 2019, 11:23:54
How durable is PVD coating / finish?

Or what is it actually?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 02 January 2019, 01:49:21
How durable is PVD coating / finish?

Or what is it actually?

Like any polished surface, I wouldn't recommend "buffing" it with any regular rag. Try to use clean microfiber cloths to avoid micro scratches.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 02 January 2019, 04:51:01
How durable is PVD coating / finish?

Or what is it actually?

Like any polished surface, I wouldn't recommend "buffing" it with any regular rag. Try to use clean microfiber cloths to avoid micro scratches.

When I read into it, there are many kinds of PVD coating, and some are "virtually not possible to scratch it"
https://www.chronext.com/journal/mechanics/a-timely-question-%E2%80%93-the-difference-between-a-pvd-dlc-coating (https://www.chronext.com/journal/mechanics/a-timely-question-%E2%80%93-the-difference-between-a-pvd-dlc-coating)

What kind of PVD is that? Is that DLC?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Wed, 02 January 2019, 04:56:50
How durable is PVD coating / finish?

Or what is it actually?

Like any polished surface, I wouldn't recommend "buffing" it with any regular rag. Try to use clean microfiber cloths to avoid micro scratches.

When I read into it, there are many kinds of PVD coating, and some are "virtually not possible to scratch it"
https://www.chronext.com/journal/mechanics/a-timely-question-%E2%80%93-the-difference-between-a-pvd-dlc-coating (https://www.chronext.com/journal/mechanics/a-timely-question-%E2%80%93-the-difference-between-a-pvd-dlc-coating)

What kind of PVD is that? Is that DLC?

Yeah, that's dlc.  I'm not even sure if that's feasible in an application like this, let alone imagining what the cost would be.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 02 January 2019, 22:25:00
DLC=/=PVD. It would be much, much, much more expensive to offer DLC.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: fcnchuck on Wed, 09 January 2019, 09:57:44
Hoping for a couple of pictures of the silver case before the GB closes. I see the one in the initial OP but i cant tell if the silver is polished or brushed.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: dwmsuh on Wed, 09 January 2019, 10:30:49
We are working on getting the other offered colours made. Once completed, we'll take new pictures. Pwner is also working on more renders as well.

Hi! Are there any updates on additional renders? Thank you!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: juaninamilli on Wed, 09 January 2019, 13:49:26
Hoping for a couple of pictures of the silver case before the GB closes. I see the one in the initial OP but i cant tell if the silver is polished or brushed.
The silver case? Or the silver plate/weight? The case is anodized. The plate weight is PVD so it should be polished.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Wed, 09 January 2019, 13:57:35
Anybody have more pics of the purple (Zephyr maybe?)?  Anthony has me nervous about my choice now. Iím good with dark purple, but from his video and his thoughts, it sounds/looks like purple is pretty much blue.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ptiede on Wed, 09 January 2019, 14:24:15
Anybody have more pics of the purple (Zephyr maybe?)?  Anthony has me nervous about my choice now. Iím good with dark purple, but from his video and his thoughts, it sounds/looks like purple is pretty much blue.

My purple zephyr is very blue. It has a tinge of purple in it but is very blue.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Wed, 09 January 2019, 14:37:29
Anybody have more pics of the purple (Zephyr maybe?)?  Anthony has me nervous about my choice now. Iím good with dark purple, but from his video and his thoughts, it sounds/looks like purple is pretty much blue.

My purple zephyr, is very blue. It has a tinge of purple in it but is very blue.

Thanks for the info.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: clik_clak on Wed, 09 January 2019, 14:40:41
Zeal, Any chance we'll see another sale at the $420 mark before the GB ends? I'm really bummed I missed the GB at that price, and will purchase immediately if I see it back down to there.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: bball2 on Wed, 09 January 2019, 16:46:51

My purple zephyr is very blue. It has a tinge of purple in it but is very blue.

That zephyr purple / blue is sexy af though, would have no complaints if thatís what it looks like!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ptiede on Wed, 09 January 2019, 16:48:41

My purple zephyr is very blue. It has a tinge of purple in it but is very blue.

That zephyr purple / blue is sexy af though, would have no complaints if thatís what it looks like!
Oh I totally agree. I absolutely love the color. The thing is gorgeous. Didn't mean to sound negative
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 09 January 2019, 16:53:10
Zeal, Any chance we'll see another sale at the $420 mark before the GB ends? I'm really bummed I missed the GB at that price, and will purchase immediately if I see it back down to there.

I am not zeal so take this with a grain of salt. The early bird price wouldn't make since to repeat it. I mean honestly it wouldn't make since to offer any discounts at this point. He did offer a discount he be screwing everyone that bought in at the higher price. That means going back and refunding those people. The board is something you really like then the 40-60 dollar difference shouldn't stop ya. That is to big a barrier for you to surmount then the board's not for you.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Wed, 09 January 2019, 17:30:41
Zeal, Any chance we'll see another sale at the $420 mark before the GB ends? I'm really bummed I missed the GB at that price, and will purchase immediately if I see it back down to there.

I am not zeal so take this with a grain of salt. The early bird price wouldn't make since to repeat it. I mean honestly it wouldn't make since to offer any discounts at this point. He did offer a discount he be screwing everyone that bought in at the higher price. That means going back and refunding those people. The board is something you really like then the 40-60 dollar difference shouldn't stop ya. That is to big a barrier for you to surmount then the board's not for you.

Pretty much this, would be unfair to the people that did jump in early.

Anybody have more pics of the purple (Zephyr maybe?)?  Anthony has me nervous about my choice now. Iím good with dark purple, but from his video and his thoughts, it sounds/looks like purple is pretty much blue.

I had a short chat with zeal during the stream and I believe these issues are being sorted out.  I will let Zeal comment further.

We are working on getting the other offered colours made. Once completed, we'll take new pictures. Pwner is also working on more renders as well.

Hi! Are there any updates on additional renders? Thank you!

I did do new renders but was not happy with them and to avoid any further color discrepancy we'll wait for the new samples which should be ready any time now.

Hoping for a couple of pictures of the silver case before the GB closes. I see the one in the initial OP but i cant tell if the silver is polished or brushed.

The pvd will be polished.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Wed, 09 January 2019, 18:10:57
Zeal, Any chance we'll see another sale at the $420 mark before the GB ends? I'm really bummed I missed the GB at that price, and will purchase immediately if I see it back down to there.

I am not zeal so take this with a grain of salt. The early bird price wouldn't make since to repeat it. I mean honestly it wouldn't make since to offer any discounts at this point. He did offer a discount he be screwing everyone that bought in at the higher price. That means going back and refunding those people. The board is something you really like then the 40-60 dollar difference shouldn't stop ya. That is to big a barrier for you to surmount then the board's not for you.

Pretty much this, would be unfair to the people that did jump in early.

Anybody have more pics of the purple (Zephyr maybe?)?  Anthony has me nervous about my choice now. Iím good with dark purple, but from his video and his thoughts, it sounds/looks like purple is pretty much blue.

I had a short chat with zeal during the stream and I believe these issues are being sorted out.  I will let Zeal comment further.

We are working on getting the other offered colours made. Once completed, we'll take new pictures. Pwner is also working on more renders as well.

Hi! Are there any updates on additional renders? Thank you!

I did do new renders but was not happy with them and to avoid any further color discrepancy we'll wait for the new samples which should be ready any time now.

Hoping for a couple of pictures of the silver case before the GB closes. I see the one in the initial OP but i cant tell if the silver is polished or brushed.

The pvd will be polished.


Thanks for the reply. That sounds encouraging. Iím not against blue, but I paid for and want eggplant purple.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 10 January 2019, 16:00:09
This was mentioned by riotonthebay on his No.1 60/65 thread https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=98780.msg2703523#msg2703523

Surprised the Zeal PCB mounting legs are loose, v1 were insanely tight in Cherry-spec PCBs. I heard Zeal tried to fix that for v2, maybe they over-compensated?

Ideally they're not loose in the PCB at all, so alignment with a partial/plateless build shouldn't be that problematic.

I don't believe Zeal over-compensated here ó I don't want any misinformation to be spread. Wilba, who designed this PCB, designs PCBs for Zeal as well, and has in the past used a very slightly larger than Cherry-spec switch mounting holes in order to accommodate non-Cherry switches with legs that were slightly oversized. In my builds, it wasn't problematic (I've built two half-plate PCBs out at this point), but future PCBs will be made with standard Cherry-spec mounting holes.

Maybe zeal or pwner can confirm on the pcb situation if he has the proto case + pcb with the v2s on hand to test out. I may be being overly cautious but loose v2 with half plate Xeno might make keycap alignment troublesome. Thank you!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Wilba on Thu, 10 January 2019, 18:13:03
Some of my PCBs in the past have used 1.8mm to accommodate slightly larger than spec PCB mount pins - if you've ever tried putting Gaterons or V1 Zealios into a PCB with 1.7mm holes, you'll know what I'm talking about. I know you probably think that was making Zeal60 preferentially catering to Zealios and you're right. Since Gateron was the biggest offender, and now they have fixed the bottom housings, I've reverted back to 1.7mm for Zeal60 rev 4 and future PCBs like WT75-A for Xeno 75.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ian13 on Thu, 10 January 2019, 20:35:23
Waiting for images of the proto in different colors.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: dyrdevil on Thu, 10 January 2019, 23:55:28
Some of my PCBs in the past have used 1.8mm to accommodate slightly larger than spec PCB mount pins - if you've ever tried putting Gaterons or V1 Zealios into a PCB with 1.7mm holes, you'll know what I'm talking about. I know you probably think that was making Zeal60 preferentially catering to Zealios and you're right. Since Gateron was the biggest offender, and now they have fixed the bottom housings, I've reverted back to 1.7mm for Zeal60 rev 4 and future PCBs like WT75-A for Xeno 75.

Great to hear, thanks for the info Wilba!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: bobdenard on Fri, 11 January 2019, 03:24:36
Waiting for images of the proto in different colors.

Same here.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Darknight00z on Fri, 11 January 2019, 05:16:51
Some of my PCBs in the past have used 1.8mm to accommodate slightly larger than spec PCB mount pins - if you've ever tried putting Gaterons or V1 Zealios into a PCB with 1.7mm holes, you'll know what I'm talking about. I know you probably think that was making Zeal60 preferentially catering to Zealios and you're right. Since Gateron was the biggest offender, and now they have fixed the bottom housings, I've reverted back to 1.7mm for Zeal60 rev 4 and future PCBs like WT75-A for Xeno 75.

Thanks for the clarification Wilba!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: krey on Sun, 13 January 2019, 02:14:54
already tempted to pull the trigger.

will wait for more renders!
Title: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Wed, 16 January 2019, 22:30:53
Any update on the shade of the purple?


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 17 January 2019, 17:21:57
Any update on the shade of the purple?


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Will be getting samples in before CNY happens. So in a week or so.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Thu, 17 January 2019, 17:23:03
Any update on the shade of the purple?


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Will be getting samples in before CNY happens. So in a week or so.

Sounds good.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: forstsiven on Sat, 19 January 2019, 16:04:54
Still contemplating this: undecided on whether to go for half-plate vs full-plate. Thinking of going w/ purple, but wish there were a few more color options. Is there any intended plan to do a round 2?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: rymnd6c28 on Tue, 22 January 2019, 05:54:45
a long shot but, can I just buy the pcb? you know, just add the pcb add-on to the cart and check out.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 22 January 2019, 20:21:51
a long shot but, can I just buy the pcb? you know, just add the pcb add-on to the cart and check out.

Technically sure you could if you're planning on designing your own case.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: regionfree on Tue, 22 January 2019, 20:26:47
having received my zephyr a few weeks back, can we expect the same quality in terms of anodization and polish with the xeno?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 22 January 2019, 20:32:31
Yes, it will be run through the same manu.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: regionfree on Tue, 22 January 2019, 21:27:18
Yes, it will be run through the same manu.

really happy to hear that. thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: dwmsuh on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:28:20
Have to voice out my long hidden question / wish:

Does the current PCB design (which already looks great) support any type of hot sockets for make it hot swappable?

I haven't invested in one of those multi-hundred dollar desoldering setup and every time I desolder something I burned, tore, and damaged the pad and the circuit.

Zeal or Pwner, have you guys had a chance to see if the hot swap sockets or Holyokeís fit with the keeb?
I have led/switch holtites and mill max sockets on the way from another user that I will be using to test that.  :thumb:

Any chance you guys have had a chance to see if the Holtites or hot swap sockets work with this?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ramblinrose on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:41:04
Also debating the full vs half plate here - I understand the extra flex / softer bottom out with half plate, but what about sound?Wish I could just afford one of each plate and 2x pcb, but probably out of my spend range.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: skaloola on Wed, 23 January 2019, 12:48:20
no RGB LED support like Xeno?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: swangful on Thu, 24 January 2019, 00:01:11
Excited to see this sample. Hopefully some RGB PCB action too like the zeal60/zephyr.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Wilba on Thu, 24 January 2019, 00:06:58
no RGB LED support like Xeno?

Excited to see this sample. Hopefully some RGB PCB action too like the zeal60/zephyr.

No.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: swangful on Thu, 24 January 2019, 00:38:45
no RGB LED support like Xeno?

Excited to see this sample. Hopefully some RGB PCB action too like the zeal60/zephyr.

No.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/da0abd09eb48e2878cbfffdbc19cc645/tenor.gif?itemid=5547715)
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 24 January 2019, 05:10:19
no RGB LED support like Xeno?

Excited to see this sample. Hopefully some RGB PCB action too like the zeal60/zephyr.

No.

Wilba is here..!
Hope it is Mill Max compatible and with some nice features at those 3-points LED indicators.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: bobdenard on Wed, 30 January 2019, 08:24:16
Still on the fence, any news on the new prototypes? Dying to see the other colors.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: dwmsuh on Wed, 30 January 2019, 14:47:46
Still on the fence, any news on the new prototypes? Dying to see the other colors.

Agree, Iíve been checking back here every day to see if there have been updates xD
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Thu, 31 January 2019, 00:21:52
I like xeno. I buy xeno.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ian13 on Thu, 31 January 2019, 04:06:09
I'm also waiting for updates before I jump in! Still can't decide on what color to choose for both the case and the plate. Zeal said that he will post pictures before CNY, so should be anytime now?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ramblinrose on Thu, 31 January 2019, 09:05:30
I'm curious about the silver colored case - in the renders on the product page, the initial one for the half plate looks like a light silver, whereas in the jamon renders, it appears to be darker and a bit more towards the light grey spectrum. Which is more accurate?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: juaninamilli on Thu, 31 January 2019, 10:43:09
I wouldn't use Jamon renders as a base of reference. Zambumon has a lot of renders of boards in colors that aren't available. He tends to bias toward the keycap colorway.
I'm curious about the silver colored case - in the renders on the product page, the initial one for the half plate looks like a light silver, whereas in the jamon renders, it appears to be darker and a bit more towards the light grey spectrum. Which is more accurate?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ramblinrose on Thu, 31 January 2019, 12:52:20
Makes sense - yeah just thought it was odd to show both renders on the GB page since they represent the silver differently.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Thu, 31 January 2019, 14:29:18
In case anyone missed it, terminal, 9009, Olivia and hyperfuse origins renders were added to the group buy page.  Shout-out to janglad for those.  A couple renders of Oblivion were also added courtesy of oblotzky and jamon from zambumon as well.

New sample cases have been finished but there is a delay in the pvd for the weights and plates.  I will let zeal comment on the status of those when he gets a chance.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: mrpetrov on Thu, 31 January 2019, 14:43:09
Thanks for the heads up re the new renders. They all look fab, my fave is the black with olivia.

Looking forward to see the live proto color samples!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Thu, 31 January 2019, 14:43:16
In case anyone missed it, terminal, 9009, Olivia and hyperfuse origins renders were added to the group buy page.  Shout-out to janglad for those.  A couple renders of Oblivion were also added courtesy of oblotzky and jamon from zambumon as well.

New sample cases have been finished but there is a delay in the pvd for the weights and plates.  I will let zeal comment on the status of those when he gets a chance.
Oof that terminal render. So stoked!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: snelltrail on Tue, 05 February 2019, 06:53:09
Would it be possible at all to get one or two renders showing the 7u spacebar layout? Iím still trying to decide between the two bottom rows.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: omjak on Wed, 06 February 2019, 03:04:38
having received my zephyr a few weeks back, can we expect the same quality in terms of anodization and polish with the xeno?

Yes, it will be run through the same manu.

and that includes same quality aluminum?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 06 February 2019, 18:18:13
having received my zephyr a few weeks back, can we expect the same quality in terms of anodization and polish with the xeno?

Yes, it will be run through the same manu.

and that includes same quality aluminum?

Yes, same aluminum / brass. .
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Fri, 08 February 2019, 06:12:06
Any update on the purple?  Weíre getting close to the end of the GB window. I just want to be able to adjust my order, if necessary.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 08 February 2019, 13:56:25
The purple and pvd finishes didn't make it before CNY :(. I'll post images as soon as I get them on hand.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Fri, 08 February 2019, 14:25:24
The purple and pvd finishes didn't make it before CNY :(. I'll post images as soon as I get them on hand.

Thanks for the answer. How will that affect us changing our orders, if the need should arise?  I really would like an deep ďeggplantĒ purple board or even a medium purple board, but I really do not want a blue board.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Zeal on Fri, 08 February 2019, 15:14:47
The purple and pvd finishes didn't make it before CNY :(. I'll post images as soon as I get them on hand.

Thanks for the answer. How will that affect us changing our orders, if the need should arise?  I really would like an deep ďeggplantĒ purple board or even a medium purple board, but I really do not want a blue board.


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I will reject the boards if they come out blueish. The purple zephyrs are already being redone.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Fri, 08 February 2019, 15:15:10
The purple and pvd finishes didn't make it before CNY :(. I'll post images as soon as I get them on hand.

Thanks for the answer. How will that affect us changing our orders, if the need should arise?  I really would like an deep ďeggplantĒ purple board or even a medium purple board, but I really do not want a blue board.


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I will reject the boards if they come out blueish. The purple zephyrs are already being redone.


Sounds excellent!


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: poolside on Fri, 08 February 2019, 19:12:18
Are there any more real life pics of that purple board available, showing left/back/under sides with the weight installed?

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/Purple_Xeno_Silver_PVD_7cd647b2-2861-40c3-bc70-0956ea00f781.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: clik_clak on Fri, 08 February 2019, 19:29:00
Are there any more real life pics of that purple board available, showing left/back/under sides with the weight installed?

Show Image
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0490/7329/products/Purple_Xeno_Silver_PVD_7cd647b2-2861-40c3-bc70-0956ea00f781.jpg)


You could've read 4 posts above this to get your answer.

Even if there was pics, it's not going to be the same purple of anything shown so far.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: poolside on Sat, 09 February 2019, 11:30:14
I was mostly interested in seeing more of the shape of the board, not any specific color. Renders are nice, but don't feel alive, unfortunately.
That purple board pic looks like it was carefully set up. I just wish there were more.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: DukeEsquire on Sun, 10 February 2019, 12:35:08
Is there any way to make the board hotswappable?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: mrpetrov on Mon, 11 February 2019, 10:23:07
In! Pulled the trigger last night on a full plate black case with rose gold plate. Just a few more days!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Furikurichemy on Mon, 11 February 2019, 10:52:33
How many of you have bought an extra pcb for this? Is it worth it for peace of mind?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: PoochZag on Mon, 11 February 2019, 11:10:40
How many of you have bought an extra pcb for this? Is it worth it for peace of mind?

I usually do for customs, but Wilba has a pretty good reputation for high quality PCBs. Personally I have skipped the extra PCB on this one because of that, and I do not plan on desoldering this one as often as I do on other boards (not that I've had a problem with any of them either).
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Mon, 11 February 2019, 11:13:47
I picked up an extra PCB and plate. One half plate (Thanks Henry for adjusting my order) and one full plate. I usually buy 2 for piece of mind. Not so much in the board failing on its own, but me somehow being a bonehead and screwing it up. It also helps in this case because I can have 2 setups ready to go. I plan on doing the same with the Fusion60. One brass plate/PCB and one poly plate/PCB. One set up to flex and one set up to be more rigid and put switches in each board accordingly.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Darknight00z on Mon, 11 February 2019, 11:38:01
Regardless of colours are there any photos of the prototype?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ian13 on Mon, 11 February 2019, 21:24:42
Still can't decide on black+rose gold or silver+rose gold :(
/gg
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: donut_sauce on Wed, 13 February 2019, 10:06:48
Would love to see a chart showing what combinations people are choosing :D

Torn between black on black or black w/ rose gold. I'm wondering if rose gold as a half plate will stick out too much since it will contrast with the black pcb showing through on the alphas.....or maybe that's good thing?? these are the tough life questions we all face

I would love to see a poylcarb half plate for this at some point to show off that sweet pcb
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Chaselicious17 on Wed, 13 February 2019, 11:20:43
Would love to see a chart showing what combinations people are choosing :D

Torn between black on black or black w/ rose gold. I'm wondering if rose gold as a half plate will stick out too much since it will contrast with the black pcb showing through on the alphas.....or maybe that's good thing?? these are the tough life questions we all face

I would love to see a poylcarb half plate for this at some point to show off that sweet pcb

BoBoB for me because I want to pair it with Oblivion v2
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: crd on Wed, 13 February 2019, 11:54:30
Silver w/ rose gold half plate
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: rondg on Wed, 13 February 2019, 18:00:13
Same here, still do not know what color combo to get. I am considering a black case and rose gold plate but the black plate would look good on oblivion and modern dolch.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: jackedhardwarejunkie on Wed, 13 February 2019, 18:04:59
BoBoB but still no black/purple set to pair it with yet
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: donut_sauce on Wed, 13 February 2019, 19:29:06
BoBoB but still no black/purple set to pair it with yet
I think taro would look really nice on it :)
Same here, still do not know what color combo to get. I am considering a black case and rose gold plate but the black plate would look good on oblivion and modern dolch.
Yeah thatís what Iím thinking. Modern dolch will look great.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ReAvenger on Wed, 13 February 2019, 21:25:02
I went for Black + rose gold, and a spare black plate, in case I changed my mind. Shame shipping to Australia costs almost $80.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: lakeboredom on Thu, 14 February 2019, 15:37:27
Linear or tactile switches on half plates?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Thu, 14 February 2019, 16:51:55
Linear or tactile switches on half plates?

Whatever you prefer, works for both.  I will be using linears.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: switchnollie on Thu, 14 February 2019, 19:02:25
Linear or tactile switches on half plates?

Usually tactile, really depends on if you like linear or tactile more though.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: snelltrail on Thu, 14 February 2019, 21:53:05
I went for Black + rose gold, and a spare black plate, in case I changed my mind. Shame shipping to Australia costs almost $80.

Amen to that! I'm in New Zealand, so shipping costs an insane amount, and that's only if New Zealand is even an option!!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Bullveyr on Fri, 15 February 2019, 04:43:39
I went for black on black + a spare silver plate and PCB, now I have to learn how to solder.

Late night keyboard shopping across the pond  caused a fraud alert on my credit card. :D
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Fri, 15 February 2019, 16:18:50
Ends tonight at 23:59PST.

Thanks to everyone for the support, it has been amazing!  Looking forward to seeing everyone's builds.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: donut_sauce on Fri, 15 February 2019, 16:21:39
I went for black on black + a spare silver plate and PCB, now I have to learn how to solder.

Late night keyboard shopping across the pond  caused a fraud alert on my credit card. :D
is anyone planning on 7u for xeno or is 6.25u the way? i usually default to 7u but 6.25 seems to look more balanced
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: jackedhardwarejunkie on Fri, 15 February 2019, 16:22:07
I went for black on black + a spare silver plate and PCB, now I have to learn how to solder.

Late night keyboard shopping across the pond  caused a fraud alert on my credit card. :D
is anyone planning on 7u for xeno or is 6.25u the way? i usually default to 7u but 6.25 seems to look more balanced
7u always
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: donut_sauce on Fri, 15 February 2019, 16:27:47
I went for black on black + a spare silver plate and PCB, now I have to learn how to solder.

Late night keyboard shopping across the pond  caused a fraud alert on my credit card. :D
is anyone planning on 7u for xeno or is 6.25u the way? i usually default to 7u but 6.25 seems to look more balanced
7u always
I like that commitment :)
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Bullveyr on Fri, 15 February 2019, 16:36:35
I went for black on black + a spare silver plate and PCB, now I have to learn how to solder.

Late night keyboard shopping across the pond  caused a fraud alert on my credit card. :D
is anyone planning on 7u for xeno or is 6.25u the way? i usually default to 7u but 6.25 seems to look more balanced

Same for me on this board.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: donut_sauce on Fri, 15 February 2019, 17:08:17
Alright I'm in for 7u. black on black half plate:)
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Fri, 15 February 2019, 17:10:03
Alright I'm in for 7u. black on black half plate:)

Solid choice  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: rondg on Fri, 15 February 2019, 20:26:03
I also bought black on black. Will the pcb and plates be offerred even after the GB period?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Fri, 15 February 2019, 21:26:58
I also bought black on black. Will the pcb and plates be offerred even after the GB period?

Most likely, but will be limited stock.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Kev on Sat, 16 February 2019, 16:12:06
Damn, can't believe I just missed this.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Darknight00z on Sat, 16 February 2019, 16:15:09
Damn, can't believe I just missed this.

lol you had 2+ months.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Bhk1004 on Sat, 16 February 2019, 16:20:12
Purp on rose gold half plate. Then literally right before it ended... got another pcb and rose gold full plate.... cc on fire.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Sat, 16 February 2019, 19:12:20
Purp on rose gold half plate. Then literally right before it ended... got another pcb and rose gold full plate.... cc on fire.

Nice. I picked up a similar setup. Full rose gold plate and black half plate. I got scared to commit to just purple and gold


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Kev on Sat, 16 February 2019, 20:11:47
Damn, can't believe I just missed this.

lol you had 2+ months.

I've got enough unfinished projects so I only check here on an ad hoc basis lol
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ian13 on Mon, 18 February 2019, 09:08:31
Just curious if the PCB will fit Mill-Max sockets? (Mill-max 0305-2-15-80-47-80-10-0)
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Nintenga on Thu, 21 February 2019, 17:24:08
It seems that Zeal is famous for its USB cable. Just wondering if we will be able to getting one in our kit? :)
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Yeoh on Thu, 21 February 2019, 17:29:23
It seems that Zeal is famous for its USB cable. Just wondering if we will be able to getting one in our kit? :)

This would be amazing, as I dont have any other usb-c boards (nor a cable, haha.)
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: HerrmannStahl on Fri, 22 February 2019, 03:37:49
Well, getting a cable shouldn't be that hard. And it doesn't seem that necessary, because people dropping 600 to 700 $ for a board (plus taxes possibly), would mostly buy a matching USB cable or sleeve it themselves.

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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Bhk1004 on Mon, 25 February 2019, 23:16:44
Wonder how many of these sold.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 26 February 2019, 00:34:26
Wonder how many of these sold.

Code: [Select]
Black 38.8888888889%
Silver 33.3333333333%
Purple 27.7777777778%
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: menuhin on Tue, 26 February 2019, 04:25:20
Are Wilba, Pwner and Zeal all Asians?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: juaninamilli on Tue, 26 February 2019, 08:38:30
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Tue, 26 February 2019, 08:43:16
Are Wilba, Pwner and Zeal all Asians?

How is this relevant?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Krelbit on Tue, 26 February 2019, 09:01:57
Are Wilba, Pwner and Zeal all celery sticks?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: kmba on Tue, 26 February 2019, 09:10:32
They are all baked potatoes.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Tue, 26 February 2019, 09:13:17
They are all baked potatoes.

My brain is the only baked potato.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Wilba on Tue, 26 February 2019, 09:19:29
(https://i.imgur.com/pnoRjmB.gif)
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Bhk1004 on Tue, 26 February 2019, 09:48:22
Wonder how many of these sold.

Code: [Select]
Black 38.8888888889%
Silver 33.3333333333%
Purple 27.7777777778%

How did you sell partial keyboards... Haha.

Thanks for the break down. Always nice to see how it breaks out. Seems the safer colors always win out.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: oh_chesteroni on Tue, 26 February 2019, 10:42:54
Zeal is Nigerian prince, Pwner is Colombian drug runner, and Wilba is from Atlantis.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: omjak on Wed, 27 February 2019, 20:21:47
Wonder how many of these sold.

Code: [Select]
Black 38.8888888889%
Silver 33.3333333333%
Purple 27.7777777778%

How did you sell partial keyboards... Haha.

Thanks for the break down. Always nice to see how it breaks out. Seems the safer colors always win out.

Agree.  The purple looked awesome in renders, but it just wasn't a "safe" bet. 
I am bit surprised the silver generated that much comparable interest, however, silver (like black) goes very well with many key sets.
Now, if Purple ends up looking anything like the renders, it would be a rare gem among these.
(I went with black, bc it was safe  :thumb: )
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: etong415 on Thu, 28 February 2019, 11:38:12
would there be enough clearance between the PCB and the bottom case for a sheet of sorbothane? Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: imhyungjooo on Sat, 09 March 2019, 01:22:15
Seeing those percentages, I am assuming you guys sold 18 or 36?

Anyways, any updates or sample pics going on? Can't wait for these :D
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Wilba on Sat, 09 March 2019, 04:37:49
Seeing those percentages, I am assuming you guys sold 18 or 36?

Or 378? Who knows?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Fri, 15 March 2019, 13:01:07
For anyone that may have missed it:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bu-VyIIHIvS
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: b3nkei on Fri, 15 March 2019, 13:56:15
I'm interested in a silver xeno if anyone wants to sell their spot.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: shodid on Fri, 22 March 2019, 19:14:32
Crap. I want one of these to build my first custom keyboard.
Any way to get one now or they are gone forever?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Fri, 22 March 2019, 20:38:25
Crap. I want one of these to build my first custom keyboard.
Any way to get one now or they are gone forever?

There should be a few extras after the gb has shipped.  No guarantees of course.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Fri, 22 March 2019, 20:39:08
Crap. I want one of these to build my first custom keyboard.
Any way to get one now or they are gone forever?

There should be a few extras after the gb has shipped.  No guarantees of course.
Any purple updates?


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Tyki on Tue, 26 March 2019, 14:18:28
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh damn. Already want to upgrade from my KBD75. Hopefully a v2 comes around later!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 27 March 2019, 15:41:48
OP says shipping between April and May.  So that means they'll all ship out on April 1st?   :p :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: imhyungjooo on Fri, 29 March 2019, 08:41:15
I believe in miracles and April shipping :D
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Nintenga on Sun, 31 March 2019, 15:18:26
Just curious if the PCB will fit Mill-Max sockets? (Mill-max 0305-2-15-80-47-80-10-0)
Curious about it as well! Is it possible that we get a spec for the holes on the PCB?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Wilba on Sun, 31 March 2019, 19:17:50
Just curious if the PCB will fit Mill-Max sockets? (Mill-max 0305-2-15-80-47-80-10-0)
Curious about it as well! Is it possible that we get a spec for the holes on the PCB?

It's the same size hole as any other PCB I've made, and probably any other PCB anyone has ever made, i.e. standard Cherry spec. I know other PCBs I've made work with holtites and mill-max sockets.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ian13 on Mon, 01 April 2019, 00:30:28
Just curious if the PCB will fit Mill-Max sockets? (Mill-max 0305-2-15-80-47-80-10-0)
Curious about it as well! Is it possible that we get a spec for the holes on the PCB?

It's the same size hole as any other PCB I've made, and probably any other PCB anyone has ever made, i.e. standard Cherry spec. I know other PCBs I've made work with holtites and mill-max sockets.

From the man himself  :eek:
Thank you, good sir!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 07 April 2019, 07:14:35
Now that we are in April, what's the timeline looking like for manufacturing completion and shipping?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Sun, 07 April 2019, 11:22:27
Purple updates?


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ian13 on Sun, 07 April 2019, 21:53:21
Now that we are in April, what's the timeline looking like for manufacturing completion and shipping?

Up for this! Just having the thought of me receiving the board in May makes my whole body vibrate. LMAO
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MOON on Thu, 11 April 2019, 12:45:47
Now that we are in April, what's the timeline looking like for manufacturing completion and shipping?

Up for this! Just having the thought of me receiving the board in May makes my whole body vibrate. LMAO

I am scared that I will have nothing to look forward to after big daddy Xeno comes in the mail. Literally can not wait for the next update. I want to see how the Rose Gold came out so badly!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Thu, 11 April 2019, 12:49:42
So, no updates on purple?  Yes, Iím going to continue to ask


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 11 April 2019, 20:40:11
So, no updates on purple?  Yes, Iím going to continue to ask


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ne purple avail?
https://i.imgur.com/cYy0S3C.jpg
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Thu, 11 April 2019, 20:42:04
So, no updates on purple?  Yes, Iím going to continue to ask


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ne purple avail?
https://i.imgur.com/cYy0S3C.jpg

Looking great . Thatís even the combo I ordered. Thanks!


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Furikurichemy on Thu, 11 April 2019, 21:06:40
ne purple avail?
https://i.imgur.com/cYy0S3C.jpg

ooohhh looking good! I wonder what it looks like with the black pvd...
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Thu, 11 April 2019, 23:16:12
So, no updates on purple?  Yes, Iím going to continue to ask


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ne purple avail?
https://i.imgur.com/cYy0S3C.jpg

Looking great . Thatís even the combo I ordered. Thanks!


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Just so there is no confusion, that is gold (which wasn't offered) and not the rose gold.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MOON on Thu, 11 April 2019, 23:26:25
So, no updates on purple?  Yes, Iím going to continue to ask


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ne purple avail?
https://i.imgur.com/cYy0S3C.jpg

Looking great . Thatís even the combo I ordered. Thanks!


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Just so there is no confusion, that is gold (which wasn't offered) and not the rose gold.

Bahahah I saw the pic and was so confused. Thanks for the clarification. :P Special Gold for a few select peeps? Looks great!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 11 April 2019, 23:45:55
So, no updates on purple?  Yes, Iím going to continue to ask


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ne purple avail?
https://i.imgur.com/cYy0S3C.jpg

Looking great . Thatís even the combo I ordered. Thanks!


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Just so there is no confusion, that is gold (which wasn't offered) and not the rose gold.

so.... you guys wanna tell us about the keebs?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: JonoColwell on Fri, 12 April 2019, 02:25:44
I'd also take some updates on the boards, are they likely to ship before the end of may?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: rondg on Fri, 12 April 2019, 07:07:37
So, no updates on purple?  Yes, Iím going to continue to ask


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ne purple avail?
https://i.imgur.com/cYy0S3C.jpg

I should have gotten the purple!!!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: andrewregal on Fri, 12 April 2019, 09:17:00
So, no updates on purple?  Yes, Iím going to continue to ask


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ne purple avail?
https://i.imgur.com/cYy0S3C.jpg

That purple looks great!  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: imhyungjooo on Tue, 16 April 2019, 11:24:57
Seconded on the update requests. I would also love some updates on the boards :D
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: htprww on Tue, 16 April 2019, 11:42:53
I would also like to see more updates, especially the disassembled parts of the boards.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 26 April 2019, 08:50:51
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 27 April 2019, 02:45:00
Current ETA is end of May.  Zeal will be attending Keycon so shipping will start at some point shortly after pending everything staying on track.

Sorry for slow updates, both Zeal and myself have been quite busy.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: crd on Sat, 27 April 2019, 09:31:25
Thanks for the update. Early June still sounds pretty reasonable to me :)
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MOON on Sat, 27 April 2019, 14:01:32
Thanks for the update. Early June still sounds pretty reasonable to me :)

You bite your tongue!

The man said End of May! :P lol
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MOON on Wed, 01 May 2019, 16:40:36
I couldn't afford an extra PCB at the time of the Groupbuy, but I was wondering if you guys will have any extra PCB and maybe even plates for sale after the GB is over!?

Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Boingles on Thu, 02 May 2019, 14:02:15
Current ETA is end of May.  Zeal will be attending Keycon so shipping will start at some point shortly after pending everything staying on track.

Sorry for slow updates, both Zeal and myself have been quite busy.

Wait shipping end of May or after Keycon? Isn't Keycon in June?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: xondat on Thu, 02 May 2019, 14:27:02
Current ETA is end of May.  Zeal will be attending Keycon so shipping will start at some point shortly after pending everything staying on track.

Sorry for slow updates, both Zeal and myself have been quite busy.

Wait shipping end of May or after Keycon? Isn't Keycon in June?

Probably parts arriving end of May. Keycon is June 1st.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: imhyungjooo on Mon, 13 May 2019, 15:46:35
One question, is there any chance of this board getting VIA configurator support?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: snelltrail on Mon, 13 May 2019, 18:41:39
One question, is there any chance of this board getting VIA configurator support?

Since the PCB is by Wilba, I'm pretty sure it will have VIA support.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Mon, 13 May 2019, 20:37:20
One question, is there any chance of this board getting VIA configurator support?

100% chance as it's already in.  :thumb:

(https://i.imgur.com/hnMxnjo.png)
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 13 May 2019, 20:39:47
One question, is there any chance of this board getting VIA configurator support?

100% chance as it's already in.  :thumb:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/hnMxnjo.png)


Pog
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Bhk1004 on Tue, 21 May 2019, 16:53:24
Update?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Zeal on Thu, 23 May 2019, 02:19:05
Still looking at June fulfillment, after Keycon.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: yohannes on Thu, 23 May 2019, 07:55:13
If anyone is giving up their spot kn the fb, please dm me. My preference: black case, rose gold pvd, and full plate, & WK. thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: skwrn on Sun, 26 May 2019, 08:20:13
@Zeal

Can you show some tease photo of the keeb? I can't wait to get mine :)

Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MOON on Mon, 03 June 2019, 11:37:31
Zeal/Pwner,

All of my friends are mocking me is discord almost daily saying Xeno doesn't actually exist.

Prove them wrong for me m'lords?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: iboosted on Mon, 03 June 2019, 13:06:20
Any chance there will be extras available?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: etong415 on Wed, 05 June 2019, 21:47:47
Do you guys have more clarity on when it's expected to ship?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: SleepIsAllINeed on Thu, 06 June 2019, 20:16:05
+1 to above. Any updates on where we are?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Yeoh on Fri, 07 June 2019, 01:18:39
+1 to above. Any updates on where we are?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: 82d28a on Fri, 07 June 2019, 17:13:51
Updates please.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 10 June 2019, 22:12:12
GiB m3 mY x3No

That is all
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Zeal on Tue, 11 June 2019, 01:32:54
June 10 update:
WT75-A PCBs finished, on hand.
(https://i.imgur.com/jp3idlf.jpg)

Custom cables for the Xeno PCB to daughterboard on hand.

A few PVD parts need to be redone, this may delay fulfillment by 1-2 weeks from the manufacturer. Current ETA end of June.
Small Acrylic Xeno LED diffuser still cutting, almost done, shipping to us soon.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: htprww on Tue, 11 June 2019, 04:41:47
June 10 update:
WT75-A PCBs finished, on hand.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/jp3idlf.jpg)


Custom cables for the Xeno PCB to daughterboard on hand.

A few PVD parts need to be redone, this may delay fulfillment by 1-2 weeks from the manufacturer. Current ETA end of June.
Small Acrylic Xeno LED diffuser still cutting, almost done, shipping to us soon.

Thanks for the update. The pcb looks nice.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MOON on Tue, 11 June 2019, 09:44:06
If anyone is selling an extra Half Plate (pref. Rose Gold) and or PCB, let me know. Will buy. $$$

Thanks for the update Zeal!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: fishinaspacesuit on Tue, 11 June 2019, 21:20:35
Wow that PCB looks soooo good! Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: BrainBunker on Wed, 12 June 2019, 01:43:43
That PCB is looking nice! Thank you for the update.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 12 June 2019, 03:59:11
Great looking PCB!

It's a pity to bury much of the details with soldering.
Will Mill Max or Holtites fit?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Yeoh on Fri, 14 June 2019, 14:19:02
Great looking PCB!

It's a pity to bury much of the details with soldering.
Will Mill Max or Holtites fit?

Would be even more of a pity to bury them with millmax or holtites though
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: menuhin on Fri, 14 June 2019, 15:23:54
Great looking PCB!

It's a pity to bury much of the details with soldering.
Will Mill Max or Holtites fit?

Would be even more of a pity to bury them with millmax or holtites though

The thing is, whenever I (e.g. for rebuilding) desolder switches mounted on plates - I usually end up lifting most of the pads.
And I love to try out different switches - I know these are better to let it serve the normal purpose of sticking to one kind of switches.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Wilba on Sat, 15 June 2019, 07:43:01
Great looking PCB!

It's a pity to bury much of the details with soldering.
Will Mill Max or Holtites fit?

Would be even more of a pity to bury them with millmax or holtites though

If I wasn't building mine with half-plate, I'd use holtites.  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: krey on Sat, 15 June 2019, 09:07:59
I keep my fingers crossed for extras.  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MOON on Sat, 15 June 2019, 20:37:38
I'm just hoping there are half plate and PCB extras. Kicking myself for not grabbing those.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: rondg on Mon, 24 June 2019, 07:02:11
Any new updates?  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: thornkin on Tue, 25 June 2019, 00:29:20
This isn't looking likely to be a June release.

Laser ALT sporting red Sky Pandas

Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: SleepIsAllINeed on Wed, 26 June 2019, 10:02:23
Will it be shipping sometime this week?

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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: lbaron on Wed, 26 June 2019, 15:23:20
I think I just got a shipping notification!  I don't know what else it would be coming to me via DHL.

EDIT: false alarm, itís Klippe that is shipping.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 30 June 2019, 13:43:01
I can haz my xeno now?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Sun, 30 June 2019, 14:19:21
I can haz my xeno now?

I asked for an update on the 27th, waiting to hear back.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Bhk1004 on Tue, 02 July 2019, 10:00:31
lalalala
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Nivengoh on Wed, 03 July 2019, 05:17:39
I can haz my xeno now?

I asked for an update on the 27th, waiting to hear back.
Any updates?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Furikurichemy on Wed, 03 July 2019, 05:59:21
From Discord:

Factory is checking in with pvd factory rn
With the current "eco/greening" motion by the Chinese government, a lot of factories are facing extra scrutiny and audits, slowing down everything.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: regionfree on Wed, 03 July 2019, 08:19:31
the discord server is not open to everyone? can gb participants get in?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: superuser41 on Wed, 03 July 2019, 13:22:47
the discord server is not open to everyone? can gb participants get in?

Itís just zealís discord, nothing private.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: htprww on Wed, 03 July 2019, 13:54:34
the discord server is not open to everyone? can gb participants get in?

Itís just zealís discord, nothing private.

Then what is Zeal's discord address?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: 8six753o9 on Wed, 03 July 2019, 14:21:46
Then what is Zeal's discord address?
https://discord.gg/AF9wnYD
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Yeoh on Fri, 05 July 2019, 00:22:58
Correct me if im wrong, but isnt it the GB runners responsibility to keep the participants informed via this geekhack thread?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: jackedhardwarejunkie on Fri, 05 July 2019, 08:39:02
Correct me if im wrong, but isnt it the GB runners responsibility to keep the participants informed via this geekhack thread?
I'd probably be more concerned if it wasnt ran through a vendor, not much we can do if the vendor is getting delayed by the factory which is getting delayed by the govt. All we can do is wait till we hear that they're in, and hopefully that is soon
Title: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Fri, 05 July 2019, 08:50:10
Correct me if im wrong, but isnt it the GB runners responsibility to keep the participants informed via this geekhack thread?


Yeah, Iím not saying there is anything ďwrongĒ going on, but you would think there would be some updates provided by whoever received the money. Seems like that would be part of ďtheir jobĒ.  Iím going through a similar thing with my Fusion60. Besides, the monetary arrangements were made here. Why canít the updates be provided here or even via a direct email since ďtheyĒ have our email address due to PayPal.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Liocer on Wed, 10 July 2019, 10:11:10
Correct me if im wrong, but isnt it the GB runners responsibility to keep the participants informed via this geekhack thread?


Yeah, Iím not saying there is anything ďwrongĒ going on, but you would think there would be some updates provided by whoever received the money. Seems like that would be part of ďtheir jobĒ.  Iím going through a similar thing with my Fusion60. Besides, the monetary arrangements were made here. Why canít the updates be provided here or even via a direct email since ďtheyĒ have our email address due to PayPal.


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This is pretty much the nature of a group buy, think of it not like buying a product and more like investing in a company to produce that product. Sticking points happen, it takes a lot of time and effort to get issues resolved. I'm sure you'd rather have a delayed keyboard with better QC than one rushed out with issues.

It will land when it lands.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Wed, 10 July 2019, 10:24:58
Correct me if im wrong, but isnt it the GB runners responsibility to keep the participants informed via this geekhack thread?


Yeah, Iím not saying there is anything ďwrongĒ going on, but you would think there would be some updates provided by whoever received the money. Seems like that would be part of ďtheir jobĒ.  Iím going through a similar thing with my Fusion60. Besides, the monetary arrangements were made here. Why canít the updates be provided here or even via a direct email since ďtheyĒ have our email address due to PayPal.


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This is pretty much the nature of a group buy, think of it not like buying a product and more like investing in a company to produce that product. Sticking points happen, it takes a lot of time and effort to get issues resolved. I'm sure you'd rather have a delayed keyboard with better QC than one rushed out with issues.

It will land when it lands.


My comment was purely about communication. Whether there is a month or a year delay, that has no effect on a personís communication. We all knew that the deadlines were fluid. Well, I can only speak for myself. Overgeneralization is bad. I knew the timelines were fluid. Anybody thatís ever worked with any kind of contractor should know that.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: htprww on Wed, 10 July 2019, 10:36:18
Correct me if im wrong, but isnt it the GB runners responsibility to keep the participants informed via this geekhack thread?


Yeah, Iím not saying there is anything ďwrongĒ going on, but you would think there would be some updates provided by whoever received the money. Seems like that would be part of ďtheir jobĒ.  Iím going through a similar thing with my Fusion60. Besides, the monetary arrangements were made here. Why canít the updates be provided here or even via a direct email since ďtheyĒ have our email address due to PayPal.


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This is pretty much the nature of a group buy, think of it not like buying a product and more like investing in a company to produce that product. Sticking points happen, it takes a lot of time and effort to get issues resolved. I'm sure you'd rather have a delayed keyboard with better QC than one rushed out with issues.

It will land when it lands.


My comment was purely about communication. Whether there is a month or a year delay, that has no effect on a personís communication. We all knew that the deadlines were fluid. Well, I can only speak for myself. Overgeneralization is bad. I knew the timelines were fluid. Anybody thatís ever worked with any kind of contractor should know that.


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Yes, I agree with MTXjunkie's comments. All we want to know is a status update. We understand the "delay" and appreciate the GB runner's effort of making better QC.

Actually there are some recent updates (with videos) in discord. They just don't post it here. I am also confused that which one should be the main communication location. If it is Zeal's discord, we should send invitations to all GB participants.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Wed, 10 July 2019, 10:38:27
Correct me if im wrong, but isnt it the GB runners responsibility to keep the participants informed via this geekhack thread?


Yeah, Iím not saying there is anything ďwrongĒ going on, but you would think there would be some updates provided by whoever received the money. Seems like that would be part of ďtheir jobĒ.  Iím going through a similar thing with my Fusion60. Besides, the monetary arrangements were made here. Why canít the updates be provided here or even via a direct email since ďtheyĒ have our email address due to PayPal.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
This is pretty much the nature of a group buy, think of it not like buying a product and more like investing in a company to produce that product. Sticking points happen, it takes a lot of time and effort to get issues resolved. I'm sure you'd rather have a delayed keyboard with better QC than one rushed out with issues.

It will land when it lands.


My comment was purely about communication. Whether there is a month or a year delay, that has no effect on a personís communication. We all knew that the deadlines were fluid. Well, I can only speak for myself. Overgeneralization is bad. I knew the timelines were fluid. Anybody thatís ever worked with any kind of contractor should know that.


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Yes, I agree with MTXjunkie's comments. All we want to know is a status update. We understand the "delay" and appreciate the GB runner's effort of making better QC.

Actually there are some recent updates (with videos) in discord. They just don't post it here. I am also confused that which one should be the main communication location. If it is Zeal's discord, we should send invitations to all GB participants.

That would be AWESOME!  I ASSuMEd that the updates would be in the same place I signed up. I can take the fault for that one.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Liocer on Wed, 10 July 2019, 11:21:49


Yes, I agree with MTXjunkie's comments. All we want to know is a status update. We understand the "delay" and appreciate the GB runner's effort of making better QC.

Actually there are some recent updates (with videos) in discord. They just don't post it here. I am also confused that which one should be the main communication location. If it is Zeal's discord, we should send invitations to all GB participants.

That would be AWESOME!  I ASSuMEd that the updates would be in the same place I signed up. I can take the fault for that one.


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Yeah fair enough, Zeal should be posting updates in here too. I just saw the updates on Discord. And for anyone else who didn't Rose Gold PVD is being redone. Silver/Black is being shipped to Zeal possibly for this weekend. Or they're shipping this weekend to Zeal, not sure which one it was.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Starston3 on Wed, 10 July 2019, 11:28:15


Yes, I agree with MTXjunkie's comments. All we want to know is a status update. We understand the "delay" and appreciate the GB runner's effort of making better QC.

Actually there are some recent updates (with videos) in discord. They just don't post it here. I am also confused that which one should be the main communication location. If it is Zeal's discord, we should send invitations to all GB participants.

That would be AWESOME!  I ASSuMEd that the updates would be in the same place I signed up. I can take the fault for that one.


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Yeah fair enough, Zeal should be posting updates in here too. I just saw the updates on Discord. And for anyone else who didn't Rose Gold PVD is being redone. Silver/Black is being shipped to Zeal possibly for this weekend. Or they're shipping this weekend to Zeal, not sure which one it was.

Not to pile on... but I'm going to pile on.

Pwner themselves haven't been able to get updates from Zeal.

I personally had to ask 7 times in 5 different servers in which Zeal appeared to get some info.

I am well aware that delay and qc takes time, but Zeal has all the emails of the participant of the GB. He can email updates, post them on his site, or even show up in his own server from time to time.

If other vendors can put up timely updates, so can zeal.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: sana on Wed, 10 July 2019, 12:34:36
I don't want to pile on either, but this is about how the Zephyr buy went. Pretty much no updates despite the constant inquiring until I received a shipping notification at the end of May, 5-6 months after the given ship date.

Not to mention that it also came with dents in the case.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Zeal on Wed, 10 July 2019, 15:16:57
Hi All,

Apologies for the lack of updates recently. Our manufacturer has been missing their estimates as of late and we've been busy fulfilling regular switch orders. The reason for delay is the Chinese government has been enforcing "Environmental protection" and various factories of all sorts have been under scrutiny/audits. The govt has personnel randomly show up anytime of the week to make sure the factories aren't over-producing what they've claimed and aren't over polluting the environment by taking on extra work. If they're caught taking on additional work or working past stated hours, they get fined/closed.

Our latest update is that the Xenos with black and silver PVD parts will be shipped out first, packing this Sat. Shipment will be expressed over by air and we expect to receive it mid next week.

Rose gold is being redone as we felt it wasn't rose enough. Video of rejected rose: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/520952745612673024/598185992557690900/1562689018757.mp4

Finally, we do have a discord server for people to join: https://zealpc.net/discord

Updates will be more frequent and we'll keep you guys in the loop. Will also use newsletters more often moving forward for updates.

Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: mrpetrov on Wed, 10 July 2019, 15:23:26
Thanks a lot Zeal for the update.

Might you sell the rejected rose plates as B stock?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 10 July 2019, 15:42:56
Thanks a lot Zeal for the update.

Might you sell the rejected rose plates as B stock?

er, i think "redone" means the same plates will be re-coated
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MOON on Wed, 10 July 2019, 15:53:02
Thanks a lot Zeal for the update.

Might you sell the rejected rose plates as B stock?

er, i think "redone" means the same plates will be re-coated

Zeal confirmed its a recut. Not just a recoat. Kinda a bummer but as someone who got Rose Gold, I do want it to be as close to the render color as possible.


That being said, +1 to the B stock Rose Gold Option!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: booleanjulien on Wed, 10 July 2019, 16:00:43
I'll gladly purchase one of those non-rose gold plates, I actually prefer this color!
Title: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Wed, 10 July 2019, 16:15:17
I'll gladly purchase one of those non-rose gold plates, I actually prefer this color!

Thank you for posting here, Zeal. Also, ditto what this gentleman said. Iíd gladly take one of the the ones that are the wrong color in exchange for my rose gold.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: etong415 on Fri, 19 July 2019, 19:00:21
I'll gladly purchase one of those non-rose gold plates, I actually prefer this color!

Thank you for posting here, Zeal. Also, ditto what this gentleman said. Iíd gladly take one of the the ones that are the wrong color in exchange for my rose gold.


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Logistically, this is not as easy as it sounds for Zeal and the manufacturer
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Kevadu on Thu, 01 August 2019, 01:41:32
Got my Xeno!

...uh, anyone know where to find firmware for it?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Thu, 01 August 2019, 03:46:52
Got my Xeno!

...uh, anyone know where to find firmware for it?

Did you get this sorted?  Feel free to PM or reach me on discord @ Pwner#6969 and I'll help you out.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: nug on Thu, 01 August 2019, 04:04:06
Use VIA or https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/wilba_tech/wt75_a
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: eyedrop on Thu, 01 August 2019, 08:25:00
Shipping already started?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Thu, 01 August 2019, 08:45:05
Shipping already started?

Yes, boards with black or silver pvd parts have been going out.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 01 August 2019, 09:05:05
Can't wait to see the builds the black and silver gang make while I'm waiting for rose gold to finish up and ship.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Chaselicious17 on Thu, 01 August 2019, 09:09:51
Did emails go out for shipping notifications? If so, I didn't get one  :'(
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Thu, 01 August 2019, 09:12:33
Did emails go out for shipping notifications? If so, I didn't get one  :'(

Yes you will get an email, they are going out as close to order # as possible as they are unpacked.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Chaselicious17 on Thu, 01 August 2019, 10:09:05
Did emails go out for shipping notifications? If so, I didn't get one  :'(

Yes you will get an email, they are going out as close to order # as possible as they are unpacked.
Awesome, thanks. Super excited for my Xeno :D
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: crd on Thu, 01 August 2019, 10:29:12
Itís great seeing pwner do everything he can to convey more publicly what Zeal hasnít. Really appreciate your efforts.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: gt1989 on Thu, 01 August 2019, 14:40:05
Also I believe for people who had ordered extra parts, their orders are not shipping yet.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: thornkin on Fri, 02 August 2019, 00:39:03
Waiting on Rose Gold but super excited that this has started shipping.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Bullveyr on Fri, 02 August 2019, 02:30:55
Also I believe for people who had ordered extra parts, their orders are not shipping yet.

I have ordered an extra plate and PCB, got a shipping notification yesterday.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: gt1989 on Fri, 02 August 2019, 05:01:57
Also I believe for people who had ordered extra parts, their orders are not shipping yet.

I have ordered an extra plate and PCB, got a shipping notification yesterday.
What color combo did you get?

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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Bullveyr on Fri, 02 August 2019, 05:32:58
Also I believe for people who had ordered extra parts, their orders are not shipping yet.

I have ordered an extra plate and PCB, got a shipping notification yesterday.
What color combo did you get?

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Black on black with a silver extra plate.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: gt1989 on Fri, 02 August 2019, 08:48:11
Also I believe for people who had ordered extra parts, their orders are not shipping yet.

I have ordered an extra plate and PCB, got a shipping notification yesterday.
What color combo did you get?

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Black on black with a silver extra plate.

Well damn, so much for black & silver being the first ones to ship out.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Fri, 02 August 2019, 12:45:26
Also I believe for people who had ordered extra parts, their orders are not shipping yet.

I have ordered an extra plate and PCB, got a shipping notification yesterday.
What color combo did you get?

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Black on black with a silver extra plate.

Well damn, so much for black & silver being the first ones to ship out.

Black & silver meaning the pvd parts.  Last I heard silver boards had not been unpacked yet but I have seen both black and purple boards being shipped/received.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: click clack jack on Mon, 05 August 2019, 22:00:38
Hello

Last update was 7/10 so I hope it is within good social protocol to just check in and see if there is any new news?

Thank you, so excited for my xeno <3
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: phatty on Mon, 05 August 2019, 23:22:21
If you are unhappy with how your Xeno turned out, I'm sure we can work something out which involves money for your kit ;)
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Chaselicious17 on Tue, 06 August 2019, 09:59:30
Would very much appreciate an update. Not sure if I should be worried since I haven't gotten an email and some people who ordered black got theirs. I ordered black-on-black. Thanks~
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: rondg on Tue, 06 August 2019, 18:58:09
^ Same  :(
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: crd on Tue, 06 August 2019, 22:39:45
Zeal seems to respond more frequently on his discord server. He posted a link to it earlier in this thread.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Bhk1004 on Wed, 07 August 2019, 11:46:08
Would be good if people who get their boards post up here!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 07 August 2019, 11:51:59
Would be good if people who get their boards post up here!

Here's mine.  I plan to put tealios in it.

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: booleanjulien on Wed, 07 August 2019, 14:03:41
Would be good if people who get their boards post up here!

Here's mine.  I plan to put tealios in it.

(Attachment Link)

*Wood be good
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Astrasa on Wed, 07 August 2019, 15:06:44
Hello

Last update was 7/10 so I hope it is within good social protocol to just check in and see if there is any new news?

Thank you, so excited for my xeno <3

Would very much appreciate an update. Not sure if I should be worried since I haven't gotten an email and some people who ordered black got theirs. I ordered black-on-black. Thanks~

Via the discord looks like the last batch they got in were mostly purples with silver and black on black that should be shipping soon. Silver xenos in the next batch and rose gold hopefully shipping to zeal this month. I would just be patient with your orders! They're going out as they come in and not necessarily by order numbers, depends what you had in your order.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: jackedhardwarejunkie on Wed, 07 August 2019, 16:57:11
Some people are getting their black on black before others depending on what extras you ordered, they're comming! Waiting for a black on black myself with a few extras an I ordered in Nov, patience is the key, just wait for that fine wine to arrive
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Chaselicious17 on Wed, 07 August 2019, 19:17:05
Via the discord looks like the last batch they got in were mostly purples with silver and black on black that should be shipping soon. Silver xenos in the next batch and rose gold hopefully shipping to zeal this month. I would just be patient with your orders! They're going out as they come in and not necessarily by order numbers, depends what you had in your order.

Some people are getting their black on black before others depending on what extras you ordered, they're comming! Waiting for a black on black myself with a few extras an I ordered in Nov, patience is the key, just wait for that fine wine to arrive

Awesome, that makes sense then I guess. Thanks for the updates! Hope I start seeing pics here soon, very excited for this board.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: htprww on Sun, 18 August 2019, 09:22:07
See the build:
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Bhk1004 on Wed, 21 August 2019, 14:11:59
any updates on the rosegold plates?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: odd on Fri, 23 August 2019, 22:02:23
I ordered a black on black are people really getting their orders?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Sat, 31 August 2019, 18:33:06
Anyone seen a silver one yet?  Ordered silver on silver.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: LightningXI on Sat, 31 August 2019, 20:02:23
Anyone seen a silver one yet?  Ordered silver on silver.

I am waiting for silver.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Sat, 31 August 2019, 20:27:35
Purple here. Rose gold plate is holding it up.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: regionfree on Sun, 01 September 2019, 00:53:53
ordered silver body with rose gold pvd plate. hoping for updates!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: gt1989 on Sun, 01 September 2019, 01:17:30
No update, and I ordered a black case with silver parts.

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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: imhyungjooo on Thu, 12 September 2019, 02:48:34
FYI for those who hasn't been checking the discord recently, Zeal told us that he set a hard deadline for the rose gold till the end of the month, so wait tight lads.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: LightningXI on Thu, 12 September 2019, 02:54:16
FYI for those who hasn't been checking the discord recently, Zeal told us that he set a hard deadline for the rose gold till the end of the month, so wait tight lads.

Hard deadline for whom?
What happens if the manufacturer does not deliver rose gold parts that are made with quality up to par?

Was really hoping that the boards would deliver by the end of the month. :(
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Yeoh on Thu, 12 September 2019, 03:56:13
Hi All,

Apologies for the lack of updates recently.

Our latest update is that the Xenos with black and silver PVD parts will be shipped out first, packing this Sat. Shipment will be expressed over by air and we expect to receive it mid next week.

Updates will be more frequent and we'll keep you guys in the loop. Will also use newsletters more often moving forward for updates.

This was over a month ago now.

What happened to the black/silver pvd xenos that were supposed to have been shipped out?

What happened to more frequent updates?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: rondg on Thu, 12 September 2019, 06:03:17
FYI for those who hasn't been checking the discord recently, Zeal told us that he set a hard deadline for the rose gold till the end of the month, so wait tight lads.

What's gonna happen if the deadline is not met?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Funktion on Thu, 12 September 2019, 22:26:28
Why didn't I just order black...
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Nivengoh on Thu, 12 September 2019, 22:30:00
Why didn't I just order black...
Trust me, ordering black wouldn't help much. Most of the black/silver has yet to ship out. And somehow Zeal refused to update us on the status of this GB. We have no clue on how much of the black/silver has actually been ship out.
All we know is rose gold is definitely delay. And manufacturers are shipping him the rest if the keyboard small batches by small batches(also no info on that).
So all I can say is just forgot Xeno exist and hope one day the keyboard will just random appear on ur house door.

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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ian13 on Fri, 13 September 2019, 01:30:49
Why didn't I just order black...
Trust me, ordering black wouldn't help much. Most of the black/silver has yet to ship out. And somehow Zeal refused to update us on the status of this GB. We have no clue on how much of the black/silver has actually been ship out.
All we know is rose gold is definitely delay. And manufacturers are shipping him the rest if the keyboard small batches by small batches(also no info on that).
So all I can say is just forgot Xeno exist and hope one day the keyboard will just random appear on ur house door.

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LMAO. This.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Chaselicious17 on Fri, 13 September 2019, 09:57:33
At this rate I'll get Kepler before Xeno LOL. Starting to think Xeno is a reference to the Scientology alien because they both don't exist
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Yeoh on Sun, 22 September 2019, 21:13:10
Zeal posted a large update on his discord, and not here as per the rules... again.  :))
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 22 September 2019, 21:22:21
Zeal posted a large update on his discord, and not here as per the rules... again.  :))

Here are the provided updates -- https://imgur.com/a/xV3szC8

The images after the 00 captioned ones are the same ones but in full-sized format, in order of appearance.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: jackedhardwarejunkie on Sun, 22 September 2019, 21:29:28
Zeal posted a large update on his discord, and not here as per the rules... again.  :))

Here are the provided updates -- https://imgur.com/a/xV3szC8

The images after the 00 captioned ones are the same ones but in full-sized format, in order of appearance.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Funktion on Mon, 23 September 2019, 13:18:53
Thanks for posting the update info. I'm still excited for the board and after seeing the pictures I'm glad they haven't been sent out yet. Though its frustrating that this has happened I think Zeal is making the correct, though difficult, decision. I can only imagine the damage to Zeal as a brand in sending out low quality products, I'm sure this is stressful for Zeal.  :(
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Chaselicious17 on Mon, 23 September 2019, 16:25:46
Thanks for posting the update info. I'm still excited for the board and after seeing the pictures I'm glad they haven't been sent out yet. Though its frustrating that this has happened I think Zeal is making the correct, though difficult, decision. I can only imagine the damage to Zeal as a brand in sending out low quality products, I'm sure this is stressful for Zeal.  :(

Seconded. I'm salty I don't have my Xeno yet but I'd be 10x saltier if I got it in the condition of the pics. I will happily wait until the finish product has the quality we've come to expect from Zeal.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: silas on Mon, 30 September 2019, 13:08:58
are there enough blems to have extras? because i want one...  :(
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Mon, 30 September 2019, 18:34:52
Iíve asked 2x and have not gotten an answer on Discord. So, Iíll ask here. Zeal said that he gave the manufacturer a hard deadline of the end of September to have the rose gold pieces done. Where do we stand on that?


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Wed, 02 October 2019, 10:39:15
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191002/9e19c0a23d6d9dcd52de4ee52334d987.jpg)


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Arlie on Fri, 18 October 2019, 13:44:02
Any more updates on this by chance?  I don't use discord because I'm anti-social and have a bit too much anxiety.  Just wondering if these are still being received/sent out to the best of everyone's knowledge.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Fri, 18 October 2019, 13:45:27
Nothing. Itís funny because multiple people asked and he answered all of the questions about switches and skipped all the Xeno questions .


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: gt1989 on Fri, 18 October 2019, 13:46:23
The last update was that a lot of the pvd parts needed to be remade because they were bad.

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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Fri, 18 October 2019, 14:21:09
He gave them a hard deadline of the end of last month. I asked about that at the end of last month. I got the reply I posted above.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: gt1989 on Fri, 18 October 2019, 14:55:17
http://imgur.com/a/xAru5gM

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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Fri, 18 October 2019, 14:56:34
Iím glad he updated, but that does against what he said. I just ask and stay out of it. Itís getting pretty ugly on discord. People are pretty fed up.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: gt1989 on Fri, 18 October 2019, 14:58:14
Iím glad he updated, but that does against what he said. I just ask and stay out of it. Itís getting pretty ugly on discord. People are pretty fed up.


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Oh yeah, I'm not defending the delay at all and I completely understand everyone's frustrations.

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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: fcnchuck on Fri, 18 October 2019, 16:09:30
At this point it will just be a surprise Christmas present that i was smart enough to order 10-ish months ago
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: jackedhardwarejunkie on Fri, 18 October 2019, 16:12:51
Look, I'm actually friends with the guy an am still waiting on black & black... Its not his fault, sometimes being the middle man leaves you unable to have full control of everything... The guys a stand up dude an will not send you a b stock board an will not dissapear.. We're all in the same boat, best thing to do would to be just not to think about it.

Trust me I want mine too. Lol

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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Fri, 18 October 2019, 17:00:35
Look, I'm actually friends with the guy an am still waiting on black & black... Its not his fault, sometimes being the middle man leaves you unable to have full control of everything... The guys a stand up dude an will not send you a b stock board an will not dissapear.. We're all in the same boat, best thing to do would to be just not to think about it.

Trust me I want mine too. Lol

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I donít think his character or morals have ever been in question. Timely updates, updating here, like he personally said he would, responding to questions about updates, etc, are.

I think that is one of the STRONG characteristics of hobbyists on this level. Iím a BIG knife guy and knife guys will wait on a makers books for years, as long as they feel like theyíve been kept in the loop. Then theyíll hand over $1K+ with a smile after waiting years for a knife.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: 82d28a on Mon, 28 October 2019, 19:57:32
Updates please.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: sana on Fri, 01 November 2019, 21:24:21
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So has anyone actually gotten a board yet?
I ordered a Silver/Rose Gold back on November 27 and haven't heard anything.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Fri, 01 November 2019, 21:26:14
On the discord a few guys have mentioned getting their boards. I also think Teyha Types built one on his channel.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Funktion on Fri, 01 November 2019, 21:40:22
Nope I for one am getting very tired if this.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Chaselicious17 on Fri, 01 November 2019, 23:05:38
I'm sure, as we all are. The only thing we can do is continue to wait and be patient. I have faith Zeal will come through eventually.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: fatalruin on Sat, 02 November 2019, 07:38:29
I ordered a purple/silver board, but I don't expect it till next year since I joined the GB near the end.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Wed, 06 November 2019, 12:51:01
Weíll soon be coming up on the holiday season. Zeal, do we know if Xeno orders will be fulfilled before the new year?


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Damage on Wed, 06 November 2019, 13:16:54
The original ship date target was April-May of this year.

The last update on the Zeal website was June 10.

Zeal hasn't posted here since July 10.

The only updates come via Discord, and it's been over a month since we've had one of those. Recent updates have had no real ETAs, anyhow.

I know we should typically expect updates in this thread, but at this point, continuing to ask here seems silly. Zeal has decided to spend quite a bit of his goodwill with the community on avoiding the work of typing an update and posting it. Our only recourse is to learn to use Discord and wait.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Wed, 06 November 2019, 13:21:35
The original ship date target was April-May of this year.

The last update on the Zeal website was June 10.

Zeal hasn't posted here since July 10.

The only updates come via Discord, and it's been over a month since we've had one of those. Recent updates have had no real ETAs, anyhow.

I know we should typically expect updates in this thread, but at this point, continuing to ask here seems silly. Zeal has decided to spend quite a bit of his goodwill with the community on avoiding the work of typing an update and posting it. Our only recourse is to learn to use Discord and wait.

Yes, sir. I post/read in both places. I just want to make sure he has a fair chance to see what Iím asking. I also want everyone else to have the info too. I know everyone would like to know. Especially with the holidays coming up. We all know how that just shuts things down for basically 2 months.

I hate to have to post so many places and so repetitively, but I just want updates in reasonable intervals. I feel like Iím the bad guy (because I feel like Iím beating a dead horse), but I think thatís a reasonable ask. Especially when Iíve prepaid $700+.

I know the common sentiment seems to keep coming up that I think Zeal will run off with our money. That is NOT what Iím saying. The simplest, but probably not most PC, way I can say it is, Iím a paying customer and I just want reasonable service.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Damage on Wed, 06 November 2019, 13:41:01
The original ship date target was April-May of this year.

The last update on the Zeal website was June 10.

Zeal hasn't posted here since July 10.

The only updates come via Discord, and it's been over a month since we've had one of those. Recent updates have had no real ETAs, anyhow.

I know we should typically expect updates in this thread, but at this point, continuing to ask here seems silly. Zeal has decided to spend quite a bit of his goodwill with the community on avoiding the work of typing an update and posting it. Our only recourse is to learn to use Discord and wait.

Yes, sir. I post/read in both places. I just want to make sure he has a fair chance to see what Iím asking. I also want everyone else to have the info too. I know everyone would like to know. Especially with the holidays coming up. We all know how that just shuts things down for basically 2 months.

I hate to have to post so many places and so repetitively, but I just want updates in reasonable intervals. I feel like Iím the bad guy (because I feel like Iím beating a dead horse), but I think thatís a reasonable ask. Especially when Iíve prepaid $700+.

I know the common sentiment seems to keep coming up that I think Zeal will run off with our money. That is NOT what Iím saying. The simplest, but probably not most PC, way I can say it is, Iím a paying customer and I just want reasonable service.


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I think your willingness to continue asking nicely is very generous. :) It just seems, uh, optimistic at this point.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Wed, 06 November 2019, 14:46:30
The original ship date target was April-May of this year.

The last update on the Zeal website was June 10.

Zeal hasn't posted here since July 10.

The only updates come via Discord, and it's been over a month since we've had one of those. Recent updates have had no real ETAs, anyhow.

I know we should typically expect updates in this thread, but at this point, continuing to ask here seems silly. Zeal has decided to spend quite a bit of his goodwill with the community on avoiding the work of typing an update and posting it. Our only recourse is to learn to use Discord and wait.

Yes, sir. I post/read in both places. I just want to make sure he has a fair chance to see what Iím asking. I also want everyone else to have the info too. I know everyone would like to know. Especially with the holidays coming up. We all know how that just shuts things down for basically 2 months.

I hate to have to post so many places and so repetitively, but I just want updates in reasonable intervals. I feel like Iím the bad guy (because I feel like Iím beating a dead horse), but I think thatís a reasonable ask. Especially when Iíve prepaid $700+.

I know the common sentiment seems to keep coming up that I think Zeal will run off with our money. That is NOT what Iím saying. The simplest, but probably not most PC, way I can say it is, Iím a paying customer and I just want reasonable service.


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I think your willingness to continue asking nicely is very generous. :) It just seems, uh, optimistic at this point.


Hahaha! I canít disagree. I just want to be fair before I criticize.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Starston3 on Wed, 06 November 2019, 16:39:12
nah fam... you don't got to take this. Contact your credit card company and let them know. Chargeback.

That's how we got the last update.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Wed, 06 November 2019, 21:29:46
nah fam... you don't got to take this. Contact your credit card company and let them know. Chargeback.

That's how we got the last update.

Itís sad to say, but it seems like more drastic measures may have to be taken.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: regionfree on Thu, 07 November 2019, 03:17:38
This is the update posted by Zeal just now (07 Nov, 5:17 PM GMT+8)
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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: rondg on Thu, 07 November 2019, 03:22:32
Does that mean for all boards including non rose gold?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Thu, 07 November 2019, 07:33:56
This is the update posted by Zeal just now (07 Nov, 5:17 PM GMT+8)
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I canít find that comment. Iíd love to acknowledge it with a reply.  It didnít really answer my question, but at least it is a reply with some more information.

This is all I can see. Did he delete the comment?
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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 07 November 2019, 07:36:01
This is the update posted by Zeal just now (07 Nov, 5:17 PM GMT+8)
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I canít find that comment. Iíd love to acknowledge it with a reply.  It didnít really answer my question, but at least it is a reply with some more information.

This is all I can see. Did he delete the comment?
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Zeal's status update was in the Keyboards channel, not the General channel.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Thu, 07 November 2019, 07:48:21
This is the update posted by Zeal just now (07 Nov, 5:17 PM GMT+8)
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I canít find that comment. Iíd love to acknowledge it with a reply.  It didnít really answer my question, but at least it is a reply with some more information.

This is all I can see. Did he delete the comment?
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Zeal's status update was in the Keyboards channel, not the General channel.

Thank you, sir.


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Title: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Thu, 14 November 2019, 06:23:44
For those not on the Discord...

It posted out of order, but you get the point. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191114/be092ad7c12097aaaf61aac131108114.png)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191114/298cc147d7d16bb32314a7b516316624.png)


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: kawaiicheung on Thu, 14 November 2019, 07:43:54
For those not on the Discord...

It posted out of order, but you get the point.
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Thank you!!!!!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Arlie on Tue, 26 November 2019, 09:10:57
So has everyone received theirs then?  I haven't received mine yet (rose gold / black) but not sure if I should reach out yet to start asking questions.  I know rose gold has been just about the last to go out.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Damage on Tue, 26 November 2019, 09:40:15
Still waiting here. Black w/rose gold.

Zeal said on Discord recently that the latest shipment had 25 units--and that's prior to his QC check, so only a portion of those might pass and get shipped to buyers.

Given the likely scale of the Xeno GB, I'd speculate that we are looking at a very long, slow trickle to complete fulfillment of orders, at this rate. Could be another six months, easy.

I wouldn't have to speculate if we had any more concrete info, but we clearly do not. No numbers of outstanding orders, no ETAs or target ship dates, nothing. The info we have has been provided with too little context for clear interpretation.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Funktion on Tue, 26 November 2019, 11:59:40
Same. Black rose gold. Purchased mine the day the sale went live and have nothing.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: jackedhardwarejunkie on Tue, 26 November 2019, 12:33:38
Waiting on black on black.

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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Damage on Tue, 26 November 2019, 13:12:53
Waiting on black on black.

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Yeah. Here's the thing. We've heard about the color issues with rose gold plates, but folks with other configurations are still waiting on their boards, as well. Would be curious to know the true size of the backlog of unfulfilled orders, which seem to span all color configs.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: sana on Wed, 27 November 2019, 07:50:01
Happy 1 year 🎂
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: sivor on Wed, 27 November 2019, 08:08:10
It's disappointing that folks seem to be getting the runaround on this. I remember opting for the M60-A SEQ2 over the Xeno and now I'm feeling like I dodged a bullet :(
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Slash Emperor on Wed, 27 November 2019, 08:17:00
Got the DHL notification yesterday that my Purple/Rose Gold Half-Plate Xeno shipped, just to give y'all a heads up. I still have a Black/Rose Gold Full Plate kit from the same order that has not yet shipped.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: 82d28a on Wed, 27 November 2019, 09:22:45
Got the DHL notification yesterday that my Purple/Rose Gold Half-Plate Xeno shipped, just to give y'all a heads up. I still have a Black/Rose Gold Full Plate kit from the same order that has not yet shipped.

Great to hear! Please share about the QC if possible and share some good pictures.

I wish there was more official communication  on Zealís website. 
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: crd on Wed, 27 November 2019, 09:33:04
It's disappointing that folks seem to be getting the runaround on this. I remember opting for the M60-A SEQ2 over the Xeno and now I'm feeling like I dodged a bullet :(

M60-A SEQ 2 hasnít shopped at all yet. I have seen some Xenos in person, though. The difference is that RAMA has been publicly updating their customers on a regular cadence (roughly once a month or so) while Zealís transparency of the project has left many folks reasonably uncomfortable. Zealís involvement in the Xeno project has been disappointing at best. I obviously donít know all the details of what heís having to deal with his manufacturer and I trust that everyone who paid for a Xeno will eventually receive one. Zeal canít afford to sour his relationship with the community enough that people stop overpaying for his switches
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ian13 on Sun, 01 December 2019, 19:23:55
Is it still possible to ask for a refund on this? I don't mind the delays but the transparency is really getting on my nerve.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Funktion on Sun, 01 December 2019, 20:07:53
Doubtful.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Yeoh on Tue, 03 December 2019, 18:25:05
Is it still possible to ask for a refund on this? I don't mind the delays but the transparency is really getting on my nerve.

A chargeback initiated the last large update.

Just fyi.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Wed, 04 December 2019, 11:53:55
For those of you keeping up. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191204/8c290f3b7d2c1a7afcb8674ec9797bc8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191204/a20ca5263fba07ad180a5ad7493bcedb.jpg)


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 08 December 2019, 09:53:48
I PMd a suggestion to Zeal today, but I don't know if he'll read it.  I suggested that he posts the weekly updates here in this thread and put a link to it on the discord forum.  This is similar to what xondat has been doing, and I feel is better in line with the Group Buy terms of Geekhack.

I appreciate MTXjunkie, but we should expect direct communication with the group buy runner here, on this forum where the group buy was listed, until the group buy has finished.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Sun, 08 December 2019, 10:00:54
Iím in total agreement. However, it was promised months ago and hasnít happened.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Skribbles on Fri, 13 December 2019, 22:31:50
Completely forgot I ordered this board until today. Disappointed to see all the drama. I was also disappointed to see my Lumina GB fell through. Can anyone tell me about chargebacks? How long after a charge can chargebacks be initiated?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: kenkaneki on Sat, 14 December 2019, 13:07:54
Completely forgot I ordered this board until today. Disappointed to see all the drama. I was also disappointed to see my Lumina GB fell through. Can anyone tell me about chargebacks? How long after a charge can chargebacks be initiated?

Paypal? 180 days iirc
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: fcnchuck on Mon, 30 December 2019, 12:52:35
I consider myself a pretty patient person. But this is getting a bit ridiculous.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: DukeEsquire on Mon, 30 December 2019, 13:03:37
For the premium price that people pay to Zeal for his products, you'd think that he would have better customer service than this...
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: silas on Wed, 01 January 2020, 18:49:44
if anyone wants to sell their slot i'll happily buy it and take on the wait.  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ZyBeR on Thu, 02 January 2020, 01:29:44
if anyone wants to sell their slot i'll happily buy it and take on the wait.  ;D
You should watch the unboxing at the end of this video, might change your mind..
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: thornkin on Thu, 02 January 2020, 03:25:35
Oof. That is definitely a let down. Still a solid board, but not what it should have been.  Picked the wrong mfg...
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: prototype26 on Thu, 02 January 2020, 05:26:57
if anyone wants to sell their slot i'll happily buy it and take on the wait.  ;D
You should watch the unboxing at the end of this video, might change your mind..

Woah, yuck!
Title: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Thu, 02 January 2020, 06:11:34
if anyone wants to sell their slot i'll happily buy it and take on the wait.  ;D
You should watch the unboxing at the end of this video, might change your mind..


Thank you for sharing. I had not seen this.

I knew the long wait would increase expectations and the boards were going to be knit picked, but I donít even think those (I only watched the unboxing and opening of the case and stopped when he walked out of the room) are the Anthony001 knit picks that usually drive me nuts as I watch him tear a board apart. That is just bad craftsmanship. Especially from a ďboutiqueĒ offering that has had an even higher level of QCíing or so weíve been told.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: menuhin on Thu, 02 January 2020, 08:20:04
if anyone wants to sell their slot i'll happily buy it and take on the wait.  ;D
You should watch the unboxing at the end of this video, might change your mind..

 :confused: :eek: :( :-X
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"... I'm supposed to have a black one, not a black and tactical black ..."
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Damage on Thu, 02 January 2020, 11:12:57
Xeno GB people should watch this segment carefully. Note that the board designer (pwner) and PCB designer (Wilba) are evidently in the chat. At one point, pwner says, "I couldn't be any sadder" about how the Xeno turned out. Wilba eventually says he can't comment further on the advice of his lawyer.

The extent of the problems is tough to summarize, but it includes vastly different black ano finishes on the top and bottom parts of the case, visible machining marks inside and out, mis-aligned screw holes partially drilled and restarted, and sloppy fit between top and bottom case pieces.

My sense is that this board looks substantially worse than what would pass for B stock in the custom world generally. Watch the video to judge for yourself.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 02 January 2020, 11:15:35
I honestly donít care about machine marks or anodizing issues on hidden parts.  You will never see them.  The color mismatch on black is disappointing though.  I thought black was one of the easier colors to get right in these applications.  Maybe not. 

The mill marks on the weight are to be expected.  It was unfortunate but no one ever said it was going to get fixed. 

Overall, itís still a cool board.  Even cooler with a polycarbonate half plate and updated firmware for full via control. 

Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Thu, 02 January 2020, 11:18:19
I honestly donít care about machine marks or anodizing issues on hidden parts.  You will never see them.  The color mismatch on black is disappointing though.  I thought black was one of the easier colors to get right in these applications.  Maybe not. 

The mill marks on the weight are to be expected.  It was unfortunate but no one ever said it was going to get fixed. 

Overall, itís still a cool board.  Even cooler with a polycarbonate half plate and updated firmware for full via control.

I think any of us could overlook some things. IF we werenít being marketed a ďboutiqueĒ product that has taken over a year to even begin to come to fruition and has had mediocre communication from the GB runner. Not to mention the top dollar asking price. Thatís a lot of pill to swallow. And thatís before we get to the fact that weíve been told the delay was because QC had to be first and subpar products wouldnít be tolerated.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 02 January 2020, 11:28:55
All valid points.  I still don't think we know exactly what happened in communications between the manuf. and Zeal.  My hunch is that they said they were acceptable, he said they weren't and there you have a standoff.  So they say, we'll make them better when we have time, or you take them all now.  This is the end result.  Seems plausible to me. 

I didn't buy the board b/c it was a boutique item.  I bought it to support pwner, honestly.  Looking forward to getting a Jubi one day, too. 

Title: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Thu, 02 January 2020, 11:33:32
All valid points.  I still don't think we know exactly what happened in communications between the manuf. and Zeal.  My hunch is that they said they were acceptable, he said they weren't and there you have a standoff.  So they say, we'll make them better when we have time, or you take them all now.  This is the end result.  Seems plausible to me. 

I didn't buy the board b/c it was a boutique item.  I bought it to support pwner, honestly.  Looking forward to getting a Jubi one day, too.


If we donít know, thatís purely Zealís fault. He wonít report over here and I had to continually communicate in his server until he finally added an update section. Heís in total control of that section and this GB. If I had thousands and thousands of peopleís dollars and hadnít delivered a product in over a year, Iíd probably try to give as much info as possible and get as much heat off me as possible. Thatís just me using logic and perspective bias though.

Very good to support the designer. Zeal still set the price based on boutique criteria. Unfortunately those two criteria are not mutually exclusive.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: bobdenard on Thu, 02 January 2020, 12:45:20
I was bummed I couldnít afford it at the time, now I feel like I dodged a bullet... I am sad for Pwner, this was such a great design. Zeal keeps avoiding responsibility but this whole thing is surely going to tarnish his reputation. This should have been a Rama foundry project...
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: silas on Thu, 02 January 2020, 13:15:56
Oof. That is definitely a let down. Still a solid board, but not what it should have been.  Picked the wrong mfg...

dream layout... dream materials... dare I say grail? i'd do it still   ;D not a reseller, I'm just a huge fan of 75's and my KBD75 isn't endgame enough for this form factor.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: DukeEsquire on Thu, 02 January 2020, 13:49:11
Wow that's brutal.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: fcnchuck on Thu, 02 January 2020, 14:43:36
I jumped on this board as a big 75% fan. It just happen to also be the first board GB that i have joined. Im not sure how to feel moving forward. I see many other GBs go through with minimal to no issues, so is this just one of the outliers? Maybe i will feel differently when i have the board in hand and i am able to see any QC issues similar to the above video.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Thu, 02 January 2020, 14:46:22
Iím semi-new to the hobby. Iíve been in this for 2 ish years. Iíve ordered a TX108se and an e6.5. Both went as smooth as can be. Communication, timelines met, good quality, etc. Thatís not a large sample size, but I keep up with TX and he routinely runs sales and they all seem to come to go off like clockwork.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: CodeMayhem on Thu, 02 January 2020, 15:05:23
Oof. That is definitely a let down. Still a solid board, but not what it should have been.  Picked the wrong mfg...

dream layout... dream materials... dare I say grail? i'd do it still   ;D not a reseller, I'm just a huge fan of 75's and my KBD75 isn't endgame enough for this form factor.

you should be looking at dawn or v7 no?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: silas on Thu, 02 January 2020, 15:41:49
7v (i assume?) im not interested in and yes i'm in the Dawn. I also missed the Satisfaction groupbuy which would be neck-to-neck with the Xeno in my book. The novelty of the dial switch made me FOMO more than i thought i would lately since I adjust volume based on if i'm gaming or not.  :D

edit -- remove rumor/misinformation
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: click clack jack on Thu, 02 January 2020, 18:10:05
Zeal will not allow refunds but has allowed the selling spots during this mess. I'm throwing in the towel and am going to sell my spot for GB price. Its the Silver with Rosegold pvd.
PM if interested.

Full disclosure, i do NOT recommend you buy my spot.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: zearoh on Thu, 02 January 2020, 18:48:46
7v (i assume?) im not interested in and yes i'm in the Dawn but it seems that GB has issues of their own as well. I also missed the Satisfaction groupbuy which would be neck-to-neck with the Xeno in my book. The novelty of the dial switch made me FOMO more than i thought i would lately since I adjust volume based on if i'm gaming or not.  :D
The Dawn hasn't entered the group buy stage yet. Salvun just made the first proto, it was on his IG story yesterday :)
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: crykn on Thu, 02 January 2020, 18:51:11
7v (i assume?) im not interested in and yes i'm in the Dawn but it seems that GB has issues of their own as well. I also missed the Satisfaction groupbuy which would be neck-to-neck with the Xeno in my book. The novelty of the dial switch made me FOMO more than i thought i would lately since I adjust volume based on if i'm gaming or not.  :D

Hello there, I think you must be confusing Dawn with a different board as it's currently in the prototyping stage and should be headed towards GB shortly with no issue. Have a nice day  :)
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: jackedhardwarejunkie on Thu, 02 January 2020, 18:55:58
Dawn an 7v are still different than xeno but are very similar, 7v has 1800 style arrows, xeno is like a 65% with blocker and then dawn doesn't have the logo but for some reason the top row looks too spaced out with the extra key/logo...

It's sad that this is taking so long, this is actually an immaculate board... worst case I guess I cerakote a xeno, lol. :feelsripman:

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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: lac29 on Fri, 03 January 2020, 01:32:32
I mean I kinda assume you're still going to see the bad machining mistakes because cerakote is so thin ...
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: jackedhardwarejunkie on Fri, 03 January 2020, 09:09:29
I mean I kinda assume you're still going to see the bad machining mistakes because cerakote is so thin ...
I thought the problem with the board in the video was jus the 2 different shades of black?

(I skipped through didnt see anything about machining mistakes)

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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Slash Emperor on Fri, 03 January 2020, 10:28:53
Got the DHL notification yesterday that my Purple/Rose Gold Half-Plate Xeno shipped, just to give y'all a heads up. I still have a Black/Rose Gold Full Plate kit from the same order that has not yet shipped.

Great to hear! Please share about the QC if possible and share some good pictures.

I wish there was more official communication  on Zealís website.

My apologies, I took pictures when I got it home right before Thanksgiving, but forgot to upload them. I had similar issues as Manofinterests, and have compiled them in this album: https://imgur.com/a/ip7Ov7d
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: silas on Fri, 03 January 2020, 17:22:39

Hello there, I think you must be confusing Dawn with a different board as it's currently in the prototyping stage and should be headed towards GB shortly with no issue. Have a nice day  :)

my mistake, you're absolutely right. i had turned off notifications on the discord so long that i mixed up boards  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: 82d28a on Fri, 03 January 2020, 18:05:03
Got the DHL notification yesterday that my Purple/Rose Gold Half-Plate Xeno shipped, just to give y'all a heads up. I still have a Black/Rose Gold Full Plate kit from the same order that has not yet shipped.

Great to hear! Please share about the QC if possible and share some good pictures.

I wish there was more official communication  on Zealís website.

My apologies, I took pictures when I got it home right before Thanksgiving, but forgot to upload them. I had similar issues as Manofinterests, and have compiled them in this album: https://imgur.com/a/ip7Ov7d


Thanks for sharing buddy. I have hope that Zeal will step up and make it right for everyone involved. I hope that QC improves as this goes on.

FWIW, Yours looks better than manofinterests.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: V1ral on Fri, 03 January 2020, 19:07:18
If anyone wants, I'm selling my spot. Full Plate, Purple case, Black plate, 65g Zealios. Shoot me a PM.

I've kind of lost interest in this board with how few updates we've gotten, but seeing the poor QC is just extra disappointing.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 04 January 2020, 06:04:56
Got the DHL notification yesterday that my Purple/Rose Gold Half-Plate Xeno shipped, just to give y'all a heads up. I still have a Black/Rose Gold Full Plate kit from the same order that has not yet shipped.

Great to hear! Please share about the QC if possible and share some good pictures.

I wish there was more official communication  on Zealís website.

My apologies, I took pictures when I got it home right before Thanksgiving, but forgot to upload them. I had similar issues as Manofinterests, and have compiled them in this album: https://imgur.com/a/ip7Ov7d


Thanks for sharing buddy. I have hope that Zeal will step up and make it right for everyone involved. I hope that QC improves as this goes on.

FWIW, Yours looks better than manofinterests.

From the imgur link above of purple case:

Quote
... Very poor anodizing match between top and bottom pieces, seems to be an anodizing issue on the right side where the top and bottom meet, as well...
... Side shot so you see that the mismatch is noticeable even from some distance...
... To be honest, this level of color mismatching between top and bottom are not what I expected at all, gives it a cheap kit vibe...

Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: adhocish on Sat, 04 January 2020, 22:32:51
Looking to sell spot. Black case, Rose Gold full plate with an extra pcb and Rose Gold half plate in the order as well, though I'm fine separating out just a base kit.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: fcnchuck on Tue, 14 January 2020, 20:53:43
I hope this is not destined to become the next hyperfuse thread....

Seeing these for sale already on r/mm hurts, when i have no idea when or if i will ever get mine.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: dyrdevil on Wed, 15 January 2020, 00:21:36
from today in discord:

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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: 82d28a on Fri, 24 January 2020, 18:19:51
Any updates? Nothing on discord since 1/14.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: chowbabyloving on Sat, 25 January 2020, 10:38:20
Any updates? Nothing on discord since 1/14.

yeah I'm curious if anything else shipped out from that update.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: lac29 on Mon, 27 January 2020, 09:04:27
My email of shipment came 2 days ago I believe. Black case, rose gold full plate. Got tracking but I don't think DHL has picked up the package yet.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: jmsp0511 on Mon, 27 January 2020, 19:47:09
Anyone with a purple and rose gold full plate get theirs yet?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: thornkin on Mon, 27 January 2020, 23:57:11
Got my shipping notice today. Black w/rose gold full plate.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: chowbabyloving on Tue, 28 January 2020, 00:16:29
Got my shipping notice today. Black w/rose gold full plate.

Looks like only rose gold boards are shipping out.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: lac29 on Tue, 28 January 2020, 16:59:40
Photos using indoor plant lights (more white than orange compared to normal bulbs). Not bad at all. Color matching reasonable and only somewhat noticeable under certain lighting or angles. There are machine marks on the Xeno logo inside the case on the weight as well as outside the case on the weight. Inside logo marks are more noticeable than the ones on the outside. I did not include the photo of this since I took it on my smartphone but I posted it in the Xeno discord. I have yet to open it up and look closely for any problems inside the case or in the screw holes.

https://imgur.com/a/PQDk9bY
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: DukeEsquire on Tue, 28 January 2020, 17:01:42
Photos using indoor plant lights (more white than orange compared to normal bulbs). Not bad at all. Color matching reasonable and only somewhat noticeable under certain lighting or angles. There are machine marks on the Xeno logo inside the case on the weight as well as outside the case on the weight. Inside logo marks are more noticeable than the ones on the outside. I did not include the photo of this since I took it on my smartphone but I posted it in the Xeno discord. I have yet to open it up and look closely for any problems inside the case or in the screw holes.

https://imgur.com/a/PQDk9bY

That actually looks fine.

Color matching isn't perfect, but not a nightmare like some of the other boards we've seen.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: skwrn on Sat, 15 February 2020, 05:46:09
Almost one year passed since my order, still no update...
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 15 February 2020, 10:38:30
Almost one year passed since my order, still no update...

Your best bet is to join the Zeal discord server.  From what I understand, the person who has taken over doing QC is actively updating what colors and when they are shipped.


Also, I want to reconfirm the use of VIA.  A couple people have had issues with using the incorrect hex and VIA not detecting.  Be sure to grab the latest version of VIA from here (https://caniusevia.com/) and also the correct WT75-a firmware from this page (https://caniusevia.com/docs/download_firmware).
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: skwrn on Sat, 15 February 2020, 11:00:32
Quote from: Pwner

Also, I want to reconfirm the use of VIA.  A couple people have had issues with using the incorrect hex and VIA not detecting.  Be sure to grab the latest version of VIA from here (https://caniusevia.com/) and also the correct WT75-a firmware from this page (https://caniusevia.com/docs/download_firmware).

It will be useful in the future. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Damage on Sat, 15 February 2020, 11:02:47
BTW, Pwn3r, great job on the design.

I got mine, built it, and have been enjoying it. It's like B-stock quality overall, but the design of the keyboard is fantastic. Sound and feel are excellent. The layout is also just about the perfect medium for me in terms of size, aesthetics, and utility.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: StrangPrisoner on Thu, 20 February 2020, 20:55:01
Got my black & rose gold Xeno. I think My PVD and machining is better than some but it's still disappointing. Color matching is off but doesn't bother me much. The smudges all cleaned up well enough but there are a lot of scratches. Added pictures though I am no photographer.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ian13 on Thu, 20 February 2020, 23:54:31
It's like kbdfans quality but with a premium price tag. I would think kbdfans are even better.
I'm disappointed with what I received for the price that I paid.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: DukeEsquire on Fri, 21 February 2020, 11:33:35
Pretty disappointing quality given the premium price.

Especially when you compare to what Monstar was offering for an in-stock item for 3/4 of the cost.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 21 February 2020, 13:51:44
Pretty disappointing quality given the premium price.

Especially when you compare to what Monstar was offering for an in-stock item for 3/4 of the cost.

But the monstar boards have crappy stabilizers (with no option to swap) and no QMK. 
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: bobgr8 on Fri, 21 February 2020, 14:21:47
Pretty disappointing quality given the premium price.

Especially when you compare to what Monstar was offering for an in-stock item for 3/4 of the cost.

But the monstar boards have crappy stabilizers (with no option to swap) and no QMK.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/evj1an/one_of_the_reason_using_brass_plate/ffyfi0w/

its coming
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: LightningXI on Fri, 21 February 2020, 15:52:10
Ne silver Xenos avail
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 21 February 2020, 16:30:18
Pretty disappointing quality given the premium price.

Especially when you compare to what Monstar was offering for an in-stock item for 3/4 of the cost.

But the monstar boards have crappy stabilizers (with no option to swap) and no QMK.


https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/evj1an/one_of_the_reason_using_brass_plate/ffyfi0w/

its coming

Well, that's quite nice.  Love their RGB stuff.  Not sure how they'll accomplish that in QMK.  Maybe just something more simple for the QMK port.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 21 February 2020, 16:31:12
Ne silver Xenos avail

Did you see the one posted in discord? 

https://imgur.com/a/LrdiQEK

Can't wait for mine to get here.  Well... I've waited a year.  What am I saying?  Of course I can wait.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: donut_sauce on Fri, 21 February 2020, 17:16:15
Ne silver Xenos avail

Did you see the one posted in discord? 

https://imgur.com/a/LrdiQEK

Can't wait for mine to get here.  Well... I've waited a year.  What am I saying?  Of course I can wait.
Same . Waiting for my Xeno and waiting for my 280, which will come first...
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: StrangPrisoner on Fri, 21 February 2020, 18:17:52
Same . Waiting for my Xeno and waiting for my 280, which will come first...
For what it's worth I got my 280 and the QC was much better. Still waiting on my 220 in the second batch though...
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: FactoryDefaults on Mon, 24 February 2020, 09:14:59
Selling my spot, all black full plate + 65g zealios package. Order says rose gold but changed to black while GB was running. DM me.

https://i.imgur.com/a18y5nc.png
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: fcnchuck on Mon, 24 February 2020, 12:49:10
Ne silver Xenos avail

Did you see the one posted in discord? 

https://imgur.com/a/LrdiQEK

Can't wait for mine to get here.  Well... I've waited a year.  What am I saying?  Of course I can wait.

Waiting for silver as well. I like the way the silver turned out. I have seen mention of people putting inlay on the backplate to hide potential machine marks left in the logo. What is the process for this? What materials are used?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Damage on Mon, 24 February 2020, 14:00:23
Uh oh. My Xeno is down. Worked fine for a couple of weeks.

Now, when I hit backspace, I get: `12345
Up arrow produces: ZXCVBN

Tried an EEPROM reset and a QMK re-flash, no change.

I suppose the board is fried due to ESD?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: regionfree on Tue, 25 February 2020, 01:36:26
Uh oh. My Xeno is down. Worked fine for a couple of weeks.

Now, when I hit backspace, I get: `12345
Up arrow produces: ZXCVBN

Tried an EEPROM reset and a QMK re-flash, no change.

I suppose the board is fried due to ESD?

i think the PCB was manufactured by wilba
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: ReAvenger on Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:37:32
Finally received by Black + PVD Rose Gold Plate.
PCB A+
Case outside B, one small nick on back, few minute scratches in ano, top and bottom pretty similar blacks
Case inside C-, rust in screw holes, 4 scrapes into anodization, dust piles and build up
Plates & Weight B-, scuffs on back of plate, one corner of weight not round, tons of machining marks up close.

Better than vaporware, but only just a little.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: skwrn on Mon, 09 March 2020, 12:45:37
Finally received by Black + PVD Rose Gold Plate.
PCB A+
Case outside B, one small nick on back, few minute scratches in ano, top and bottom pretty similar blacks
Case inside C-, rust in screw holes, 4 scrapes into anodization, dust piles and build up
Plates & Weight B-, scuffs on back of plate, one corner of weight not round, tons of machining marks up close.

Better than vaporware, but only just a little.

Are you going to complain to Zeal about it? Sounds like something that should never be out for the sale. Rust in keyboard parts? It looks like you've been scammed.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: subluxe on Thu, 19 March 2020, 00:53:22
For those that haven't been frequenting the Discord I have taken over the packing/ QC of the boards. I am giving consistent updates as to what colorways, and the quantities that we are shipping out.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: thornkin on Sat, 04 April 2020, 17:25:58
I built my Xeno and found the ping factor a bit high. I ordered some 12" wide 1/8" thick neoprene from Amazon. Fit perfectly and really helps reduce the ping.  I hope some others can benefit from this.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: skwrn on Thu, 25 June 2020, 02:37:14
I am still waiting for my Xeno. Honestly, I won't ever buy anything from Zeal and I will discourage others from doing so.
He is wiping his face with the Chinese manufacturers and as a customer, I don't care. He wanted to go cheap and he ****ed up. Zeal should admit the mistake and find a manufacturer for the rest of the orders in a country, where you don't wait 1.5 years for an order that is arriving in a terrible finish.
The argument that this is how it is in this community is below any level self-respect. A normal company (which Zeal Generation Inc. is) would just give back the money to customers and apologize.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: chowbabyloving on Thu, 25 June 2020, 04:45:58
I am still waiting for my Xeno. Honestly, I won't ever buy anything from Zeal and I will discourage others from doing so.
He is wiping his face with the Chinese manufacturers and as a customer, I don't care. He wanted to go cheap and he ****ed up. Zeal should admit the mistake and find a manufacturer for the rest of the orders in a country, where you don't wait 1.5 years for an order that is arriving in a terrible finish.
The argument that this is how it is in this community is below any level self-respect. A normal company (which Zeal Generation Inc. is) would just give back the money to customers and apologize.

I don't think this is an issue about Chinese manufacturers as a whole, it's an issue with the specific Chinese manufacturer chosen and Zeal is now supposed to switching to a new manufacturer.

There are plenty of companies that use Chinese manufacturer and do not have excessive delays, as far as I know Keycult and Rama use Chinese manufacturing, with Keycult going local USA in house manufacturer and going to Salvun recently.  The actual Chinese keyboard makers like Gray Studio, Percent Studios, Exclusive, Fox Labs and Matrix Lab seem to be able to produce good products without anything beyond the usual group buy and/or COVID-19 related delays.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: skwrn on Wed, 15 July 2020, 01:33:18
An update from Zeal. He can't even get samples from manu since MARCH.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: MTXjunkie on Wed, 15 July 2020, 08:56:00
Oof! Iím sorry to hear that some of you are still waiting. I thought this was done. This is awful.


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: etong415 on Wed, 15 July 2020, 09:54:24
I am still waiting for my Xeno. Honestly, I won't ever buy anything from Zeal and I will discourage others from doing so.
He is wiping his face with the Chinese manufacturers and as a customer, I don't care. He wanted to go cheap and he ****ed up. Zeal should admit the mistake and find a manufacturer for the rest of the orders in a country, where you don't wait 1.5 years for an order that is arriving in a terrible finish.
The argument that this is how it is in this community is below any level self-respect. A normal company (which Zeal Generation Inc. is) would just give back the money to customers and apologize.

I don't think this is an issue about Chinese manufacturers as a whole, it's an issue with the specific Chinese manufacturer chosen and Zeal is now supposed to switching to a new manufacturer.

There are plenty of companies that use Chinese manufacturer and do not have excessive delays, as far as I know Keycult and Rama use Chinese manufacturing, with Keycult going local USA in house manufacturer and going to Salvun recently.  The actual Chinese keyboard makers like Gray Studio, Percent Studios, Exclusive, Fox Labs and Matrix Lab seem to be able to produce good products without anything beyond the usual group buy and/or COVID-19 related delays.
This is Fíing ridiculous, mindblowing incompetence. I work in hardware, so Iím usually understanding when things get delayed. But so many GBs have come and gone since Xenoís supposed ship date. Are we going to make it to the 2 year mark in delays, Zeal?


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 15 July 2020, 13:08:04
Believe it or not, I have 3 GBs that are ongoing which have taken substantially longer than this one.  So, itís not all that crazy.  I mean, itís totally crazy, but just not as crazy as one might think. 
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: dwarflemur on Wed, 15 July 2020, 15:06:40
I am still waiting for my Xeno. Honestly, I won't ever buy anything from Zeal and I will discourage others from doing so.
He is wiping his face with the Chinese manufacturers and as a customer, I don't care. He wanted to go cheap and he ****ed up. Zeal should admit the mistake and find a manufacturer for the rest of the orders in a country, where you don't wait 1.5 years for an order that is arriving in a terrible finish.
The argument that this is how it is in this community is below any level self-respect. A normal company (which Zeal Generation Inc. is) would just give back the money to customers and apologize.

I don't think this is an issue about Chinese manufacturers as a whole, it's an issue with the specific Chinese manufacturer chosen and Zeal is now supposed to switching to a new manufacturer.

There are plenty of companies that use Chinese manufacturer and do not have excessive delays, as far as I know Keycult and Rama use Chinese manufacturing, with Keycult going local USA in house manufacturer and going to Salvun recently.  The actual Chinese keyboard makers like Gray Studio, Percent Studios, Exclusive, Fox Labs and Matrix Lab seem to be able to produce good products without anything beyond the usual group buy and/or COVID-19 related delays.
This is Fíing ridiculous, mindblowing incompetence. I work in hardware, so Iím usually understanding when things get delayed. But so many GBs have come and gone since Xenoís supposed ship date. Are we going to make it to the 2 year mark in delays, Zeal?


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Yeah, two years is pretty bad, I agree, but I work in hardware too, and what you have to remember is most people on here don't and have no idea what they are doing. Sure you or me could **** out a polished mass produced product in 8 months with a lot of funding, or prototype level thing like most stuff on here is in a few months, but people who don't know what they are doing will take much much longer.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: DukeEsquire on Wed, 15 July 2020, 16:04:37
I can't believe the quality of this product and how much it's going for on /r/mm. I guess the Zeal name goes a long way.

The machining quality is basically on par with a run of the mill $300 keyboard.

This doesn't look any better than a Monstargear keyboard.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: etong415 on Wed, 15 July 2020, 16:08:12
I am still waiting for my Xeno. Honestly, I won't ever buy anything from Zeal and I will discourage others from doing so.
He is wiping his face with the Chinese manufacturers and as a customer, I don't care. He wanted to go cheap and he ****ed up. Zeal should admit the mistake and find a manufacturer for the rest of the orders in a country, where you don't wait 1.5 years for an order that is arriving in a terrible finish.
The argument that this is how it is in this community is below any level self-respect. A normal company (which Zeal Generation Inc. is) would just give back the money to customers and apologize.

I don't think this is an issue about Chinese manufacturers as a whole, it's an issue with the specific Chinese manufacturer chosen and Zeal is now supposed to switching to a new manufacturer.

There are plenty of companies that use Chinese manufacturer and do not have excessive delays, as far as I know Keycult and Rama use Chinese manufacturing, with Keycult going local USA in house manufacturer and going to Salvun recently.  The actual Chinese keyboard makers like Gray Studio, Percent Studios, Exclusive, Fox Labs and Matrix Lab seem to be able to produce good products without anything beyond the usual group buy and/or COVID-19 related delays.
This is Fíing ridiculous, mindblowing incompetence. I work in hardware, so Iím usually understanding when things get delayed. But so many GBs have come and gone since Xenoís supposed ship date. Are we going to make it to the 2 year mark in delays, Zeal?


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Yeah, two years is pretty bad, I agree, but I work in hardware too, and what you have to remember is most people on here don't and have no idea what they are doing. Sure you or me could **** out a polished mass produced product in 8 months with a lot of funding, or prototype level thing like most stuff on here is in a few months, but people who don't know what they are doing will take much much longer.
I agree, which is why Iím usually understanding when GB runners experience delays. But I went with someone like Zeal because theyíre not exactly new in the game. I donít expect product on the level of something backed by a team of experienced engineers, but I did expect them to be as good as some of the other ďhigh endĒ GB runners in the community


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Darknight00z on Tue, 21 July 2020, 18:25:56
Looking to buy a spot if anyone doesn't want to wait anymore.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: andrewregal on Tue, 21 July 2020, 18:36:04
It looks like I somehow got really lucky with this buy, I got my purple xeno back in August and my case doesn't have nearly as many issues as the photos I've seen here. Unfortunately my PCB seems to have died on me. So if anyone who hasn't received their order yet and has an extra PCB they're willing to let go of, please lmk!

It's really a shame how much has gone wrong with this gb. I personally have actually very much enjoyed this board
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: skwrn on Mon, 27 July 2020, 12:08:35
I'm sorry to hear you are also waiting for your Xeno.
There is no excuse for Zeal actions, especially (as was said by etong415) that he seems to be an experienced seller in the community.

I probably wouldn't be that angry and disappointed, if Zeal was even 10% as transparent and active about the info as Ellipse with his F62 and F77 keyboards. Ellipse is a role model about the prolonging group buy - very informative, shares lots of photos, even suggests faster shipping of keyboards without keycaps so people don't have to wait (and with an additional payment for the shipping he will send keycaps separately when they will be ready).

So yeah, it's like heaven and hell, when I compare Ellipse and Zeal.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Kev on Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:08:56
Any update? Still waiting, this is becoming a bit of a joke, at least offer refunds.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: pixelpusher on Mon, 12 October 2020, 20:21:55
Last update I saw on discord was anodizing done but waiting to redo PVD on some of the parts.  I'm gonna guess these will start shipping around the end of the year or into next year.  Just a guess though.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: skwrn on Wed, 14 October 2020, 02:29:22
Zeal is blaming another chinese holidays for the delay. I think he should just get over it and find a professional manu in some normal country, instead of dealing with some unprofessional company that acts like it has a third-world country production standards.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Wed, 14 October 2020, 22:11:15
Zeal is blaming another chinese holidays for the delay. I think he should just get over it and find a professional manu in some normal country, instead of dealing with some unprofessional company that acts like it has a third-world country production standards.

There's 1.4 Billion Chinese people that probably feel their country is pretty normal. Maybe Zeal could get Salvun to do it! ...but he's in Belgium. I've been to Belgium; those guys are not normal. Have you tried their beer? It's no Bud Light! Also, their capital is Brussels!!!! BRUSSELS!!!! LIKE THE EFFING SPROUT!!!!

Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: etong415 on Thu, 15 October 2020, 01:50:28
Zeal is blaming another chinese holidays for the delay. I think he should just get over it and find a professional manu in some normal country, instead of dealing with some unprofessional company that acts like it has a third-world country production standards.
Lmao everywhere has manufacturers that have lower standards, otherwise the people looking for cheaper options outside of Asia would have nowhere to go


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Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: skwrn on Sun, 18 October 2020, 10:17:05
Zeal is blaming another chinese holidays for the delay. I think he should just get over it and find a professional manu in some normal country, instead of dealing with some unprofessional company that acts like it has a third-world country production standards.

There's 1.4 Billion Chinese people that probably feel their country is pretty normal. Maybe Zeal could get Salvun to do it! ...but he's in Belgium. I've been to Belgium; those guys are not normal. Have you tried their beer? It's no Bud Light! Also, their capital is Brussels!!!! BRUSSELS!!!! LIKE THE EFFING SPROUT!!!!

Huh, I come from a country located in Europe and I love my special beers that don't taste like water :) Did you know that Belgium has saying that there is one beer for every day of the year? That's how big the variety of this golden beverage is there.
I didn't want to make Chinese people feel bad. The point was that if it's such a big problem with the current manu (that was already changed once from Chinese to another Chinese manu), maybe it would be easier to communicate with somebody from USA or European countries.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 19 November 2020, 18:29:24
N e avail
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: mrpetrov on Fri, 20 November 2020, 10:42:00
N e avail

Zeal mentioned in discord recently that he got notification that pvd was finally done properly and shipping to them this week for approval.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: andrewregal on Fri, 20 November 2020, 11:58:06
Hey there, if anyone has an extra PCB they could sell me I'd love to take if off your hands!

Please ping me either here or on discord (see signature). Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Pwner on Fri, 20 November 2020, 21:25:27
N e avail

Zeal mentioned in discord recently that he got notification that pvd was finally done properly and shipping to them this week for approval.

Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: evidentLEE on Sun, 22 November 2020, 02:20:44
It's like kbdfans quality but with a premium price tag. I would think kbdfans are even better.
I'm disappointed with what I received for the price that I paid.

Just got a KDBfans Bella, literally not one flaw. Maybe you've just had bad luck with them, or I've just had good luck.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: thornkin on Tue, 24 November 2020, 23:06:50
My xeno seems to be acting up after sitting for a while. When I come back to the computer, it often doesn't work. Unplugging it and plugging it back in seems to fix the issues. Any ideas?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Thu, 26 November 2020, 14:27:12
My xeno seems to be acting up after sitting for a while. When I come back to the computer, it often doesn't work. Unplugging it and plugging it back in seems to fix the issues. Any ideas?

Have you tried troubleshooting?
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: LightningXI on Sun, 29 November 2020, 05:28:31
My xeno seems to be acting up after sitting for a while. When I come back to the computer, it often doesn't work. Unplugging it and plugging it back in seems to fix the issues. Any ideas?

Have you tried troubleshooting?
  • Try another VIA keyboard? Cable? USB port? Computer?
  • Uninstall keyboard drivers?
  • Keyboard power settings in device manager?
To add I've had issues sometimes with USB hubs causing a problem similar to this.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: skwrn on Sun, 13 December 2020, 12:44:06
There is an update:
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Fisher on Wed, 16 December 2020, 03:33:13
Coooool!!!
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: skwrn on Thu, 07 January 2021, 06:38:29
From the Discord:
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: skwrn on Tue, 12 January 2021, 07:04:59
I wrote an email to Zeal in order to have some official communication going. I also like to remind the seller about my purchase one a year :D
So far no respond for two weeks, even with the follow up email. I guess he must be very busy with his ongoing switches business.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: Chaselicious17 on Tue, 12 January 2021, 16:08:29
Thanks for sharing. Still waiting on mine as well.  :'(
It seems like every other month zeal says some vague update that involves waiting a couple weeks/months.
This sucks.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: skwrn on Sun, 02 May 2021, 05:44:08
Zeal posted an update with photos of samples from manu:
https://discord.com/channels/334731532965249025/654734105979781210

(https://i.imgur.com/GZ170dm.jpg)



Photos they posted are very low quality, so unfortunately I can't really tell much about quality of finish. It's color looks a bit more sating than matte, but I like it. It's uniform and evenly coated.
The other photo shows the plate, but we can't see engravings' smoothness (we saw before that it was one of the biggest disappointments in Xenos) because they have stickers on them.
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: skwrn on Tue, 15 June 2021, 04:55:33
Small update, Zeal will change the packaging and will add a keyboard carrying case to remaining Xeno orders:
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] XENO | 75% Custom Keyboard
Post by: skwrn on Mon, 20 September 2021, 10:39:12
Update: They started shipping the last batch of Xenos. On the positive note - they sent it through DHL express, so across the ocean it will take 5 days to get to my address. Cool!



(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/654734105979781210/888155197271072828/20210916_131126.jpg)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/654734105979781210/888156705135931392/20210916_131523.jpg)
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/654734105979781210/888156705836372008/20210916_131706.jpg)