Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 15 March 2017, 14:10:47
This is an interest check for a keycap set inspired by Madvillainy, an album created by duo Madvillain (consisting of MF DOOM and Madlib) and released in 2003.
Madvillainy is one of the most influential and highly regarded hip-hop albums of all time. The album cover features the MC MF DOOM in his iconic mask.
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This keycap set will be produced by GMK.
The base kit has been added.
Compatibility:
This keycap set should be compatible with the following layouts: ANSI, ISO(UK), TKL, 75%, 60%, 1800, Winkeyless and HHKB.
Colours:
Keycap Colours:
[Version 1] [REMOVED]
[Version 2][Removed]
[Version 3]
Backspace(Coloured): V2
Esc, Arrow, Enter (+ISO): 2B
All Keys: CR
Legend Colours:
[Version 1][REMOVED]
[Version 2][Removed]
[Version 3]
All Keys: N9
RENDERS:
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BASE KIT:
[Version 1]
[REMOVED]
[Version 2]
[REMOVED]
[Version 3]
[REMOVED]
[Version 4]
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[Version 5]
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[FINAL VERSION]
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NOVELTY KEY PACK:
These novelty keys were designed by Inosint.
[VERSION 1]
[Removed]
[VERSION 2]
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[VERSION 3]
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[VERSION 4]
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[VERSION 5] - PLEASE NOTE: THE NOVELTY KEYS NEED TO BE WORKED ON SO THAT GMK CAN PRODUCE THEM. THESE ARE A ROUGH IDEA OF WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT THEM TO LOOK LIKE, BUT HAVE NOT BEEN CONFIRMED 100%.
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UPDATES / CHANGE LOG:
15/03/2017: Interest Check Started.
16/03/2017: Base Kit Added
16/03/2017: Base Kit Updated || Several key sizes fixed / updated /added.
- Fixed 2u Delete to 1.5u Delete keys.
- Added 2.25u Shift Key.
- Changed 1u Orange Blank from Row 1 to Row 2.
- Added Off-White (GR1) "~`" Key.
- Updated base kit image.
16/03/2017: Base Kit Image Corrected ||
- F and J Keys with bars should not be coloured, they should be black (CR). This has been corrected.
17/03/2017: Base Kit Updated ||
- Numpad enter key has been added.
- Version 3 has been added. Version 1 graphic does not include the numpad enter key, but the base kit will include it.
20/03/2017: Base Kit Updated ||
- Colour of backspace has been changed back to V2 from V1. This is due to the square on the album being orange, and V1 is red.
- Added R1 1.5u backspace
- Added R1 Delete, Pg Dn and End Keys
- Updated Version 1 and Version 3 base kit images.
20/03/2017: Base Kit Updated ||
- Removed R1 1.5u backspace
21/03/2017: Base Kit Updated ||
- Improved legends on 1.5u backspace/delete keys.
- Removed images for "Version 1"
- Updated images for "Version 3"
22/03/2017: Base Kit Updated ||
- Added the following keys: 1u Backspace (+ Coloured 1u Backspace), R2 PgUp, R3 Pg Dn, R4 End.
- Base kit is now compatible with 75% Keyboards.
22/03/2017: Pricing Added ||
- Added pricing for the base kit.
22/05/2017: Pricing Added + Base kit updated. ||
- Added Version 4 renders
- Added Version 4 prices
- Removed Version 3 design
22/05/2017: Novelty Keys Added ||
- Added the first novelty key designs.
22/05/2017: Novelty Keys Added ||
- Removed the 1st Novelty Key design.
- Added the 2nd Novelty Key design.
- Added the 3rd Novelty key design.
05/07/2017: Base Kit Updated ||
- Added Version 5 Base Kit
- Added Version 4 Novelty keys
21/07/2017: Base Kit Updated ||
- Added Version 5 Novelty keys.
- Added Final Base Kit
- Added Pricing
21/07/2017: Renders Added ||
- Added one render of GMK DOOM on a M65-A, without any novelty keys.
[PRICING]
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Final Base Kit (No Novelties) 115.00 GBP / (approx)$150 USD / 128 EUR
Final Base Kit (With Novelties) 138.00 GBP / (approx)$180 USD / 154.00 EUR
Separate Novelty Kit (VERSION 5 DESIGN) - 23.00GBP / (approx)30.00 USD / (approx) 25.50 EUR
NOTE: THESE PRICES ARE BASED ON THE EXCHANGE RATE USED ON 22/05/2017. PRICES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 15 March 2017, 14:18:31
Please provide feedback for both versions!
Thank you.
Post by: Rafa_n on Wed, 15 March 2017, 15:19:02
Post by: LDobler on Wed, 15 March 2017, 15:38:58
I prefer the Version 1. Hoping for novelties! :thumb:
Post by: ArchDill on Wed, 15 March 2017, 15:49:24
Hey,
This is an interest check for a keycap set inspired by Madvillainy, an album created by duo Madvillain (consisting of MF DOOM and Madlib) and released in 2003.
Madvillainy is one of the most influential and highly regarded hip-hop albums of all time. The album cover features the MC MF DOOM in his iconic mask.
This keycap set will most likely be produced by GMK.
There are 2 different versions, please provdie feedback on which one you prefer.
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Colours:
Keycap Colours:
[VERSION 1]
Esc + Space Bar: GR1
Backspace: V2
Other Keys: N9
[VERSION 2]
Esc + Space Bar: GR1
Backspace:V2
Modifier Keys: CR
Legend Colours:
[VERSION 1]
Esc + Space Bar: N9
Backspace: N9
Other Keys: GR1
[VERSION 2]
All Keys: N9
[VERSION 1 - 15 / 03 / 2017]
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[VERSION 2 - 15 / 03 / 2017]
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All feedback is appreciated!
Thank you!
capsunlocked
Dang, was hoping for a DOOM set from the game.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 15 March 2017, 16:35:25
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 15 March 2017, 16:37:27
how about a full grey on black set? ;D
I second this. Grey on black caps will look super stealthy while still keeping the legend look that is so attractive. It's something that is only possible on doubleshot keys because of the limitations on dye sub. It'd be a better version of the Black on Black sets that have been around for a while because they would actually be black and not dark grey. Please make this happen!
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 15 March 2017, 16:48:02
how about a full grey on black set? ;D
how about a full grey on black set? ;D
I second this. Grey on black caps will look super stealthy while still keeping the legend look that is so attractive. It's something that is only possible on doubleshot keys because of the limitations on dye sub. It'd be a better version of the Black on Black sets that have been around for a while because they would actually be black and not dark grey. Please make this happen!
Thank you for the feedback! What are your opinions on this design?
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Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 15 March 2017, 16:52:01
Big fan of MF Doom! :D
I prefer the Version 1. Hoping for novelties! :thumb:
Thank you for the feedback! The only novelties that are guaranteed at the moment are a microphone, and the outline of his mask. I am open to suggestions.
I prefer keyset 1. Maybe a darker grey legend and throw visibility to the wayside? Maybe not though, either way I approve. Can there be a color pack or something with orange Esc, Arrows, Enter, and numpad Enter, and the backspace? I like the scheme just for people with larger boards that colored numpad enter evens out the "accent" in my opinion.
What do you think about this design? This would be the base kit, and then additional orange keys would be a separate kit.
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Post by: Atredl on Wed, 15 March 2017, 17:00:57
how about a full grey on black set? ;Dhow about a full grey on black set? ;D
I second this. Grey on black caps will look super stealthy while still keeping the legend look that is so attractive. It's something that is only possible on doubleshot keys because of the limitations on dye sub. It'd be a better version of the Black on Black sets that have been around for a while because they would actually be black and not dark grey. Please make this happen!
Thank you for the feedback! What are your opinions on this design?
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That would be incredible! As long as we also got a black colored backspace. I'm a big fan of getting accents (especially orange :thumb: ) but I'd also like to have the ability to make it plain when I need it. Especially with a set such as this one.
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 15 March 2017, 17:08:36
IMO GMK terminal did a really good job with the extra compatibility keys. If a similar all in one kit could be made for this set, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
Post by: ArchDill on Wed, 15 March 2017, 17:26:55
how about a full grey on black set? ;Dhow about a full grey on black set? ;D
I second this. Grey on black caps will look super stealthy while still keeping the legend look that is so attractive. It's something that is only possible on doubleshot keys because of the limitations on dye sub. It'd be a better version of the Black on Black sets that have been around for a while because they would actually be black and not dark grey. Please make this happen!
Thank you for the feedback! What are your opinions on this design?
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This is pretty rad. It looks almost identical to the special GMK set that is coming with the Extent though. I think they will have a red enter and a red escape.
Post by: LDobler on Wed, 15 March 2017, 17:33:57
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Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 15 March 2017, 17:44:22
how about a full grey on black set? ;Dhow about a full grey on black set? ;D
I second this. Grey on black caps will look super stealthy while still keeping the legend look that is so attractive. It's something that is only possible on doubleshot keys because of the limitations on dye sub. It'd be a better version of the Black on Black sets that have been around for a while because they would actually be black and not dark grey. Please make this happen!
Thank you for the feedback! What are your opinions on this design?
That would be incredible! As long as we also got a black colored backspace. I'm a big fan of getting accents (especially orange :thumb: ) but I'd also like to have the ability to make it plain when I need it. Especially with a set such as this one.
Have you given thought to the kind of compatibility keys you're going to include?
IMO GMK terminal did a really good job with the extra compatibility keys. If a similar all in one kit could be made for this set, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
I think I will organise the group buy to be like GMK Terminal. There will be one large base kit, and then further additional kits. I don't want the initial base kit too be too expensive, so at this point I will not confirm which compatibility kits will be available.
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^^ That is the wrong attachment.
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This is the all black set.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 15 March 2017, 17:49:17
Is this going to be a Madvillainy themed set or can there be influences from Dooms other work/albums like "Mm... Food" which would look great on the enter key imo :)
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How about "meat grinder" as the "backspace" key? :D
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Those are great suggestions! The base kit will have the colour scheme of Madvillainy, but the novelties can be references to DOOM's other works!
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 15 March 2017, 17:50:32
how about a full grey on black set? ;Dhow about a full grey on black set? ;D
I second this. Grey on black caps will look super stealthy while still keeping the legend look that is so attractive. It's something that is only possible on doubleshot keys because of the limitations on dye sub. It'd be a better version of the Black on Black sets that have been around for a while because they would actually be black and not dark grey. Please make this happen!
Thank you for the feedback! What are your opinions on this design?
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This is pretty rad. It looks almost identical to the special GMK set that is coming with the Extent though. I think they will have a red enter and a red escape.
Thank you for the support and feedback! Do you have a link to that GMK set?
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 15 March 2017, 18:09:30
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This is the ISO-UK set, with additional coloured accents:
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These would be the additional accent keys:
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Post by: Rafa_n on Wed, 15 March 2017, 18:12:42
Based on feedback from the community, this is the current design:
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This is the ISO-UK set, with additional coloured accents:
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These would be the additional accent keys:
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love it, the orange accent keys look really good, and i really like the simplicity of the white ones.
Post by: LDobler on Wed, 15 March 2017, 18:18:15
how about a full grey on black set? ;Dhow about a full grey on black set? ;D
I second this. Grey on black caps will look super stealthy while still keeping the legend look that is so attractive. It's something that is only possible on doubleshot keys because of the limitations on dye sub. It'd be a better version of the Black on Black sets that have been around for a while because they would actually be black and not dark grey. Please make this happen!
Thank you for the feedback! What are your opinions on this design?
That would be incredible! As long as we also got a black colored backspace. I'm a big fan of getting accents (especially orange :thumb: ) but I'd also like to have the ability to make it plain when I need it. Especially with a set such as this one.Have you given thought to the kind of compatibility keys you're going to include?
IMO GMK terminal did a really good job with the extra compatibility keys. If a similar all in one kit could be made for this set, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
I think I will organise the group buy to be like GMK Terminal. There will be one large base kit, and then further additional kits. I don't want the initial base kit too be too expensive, so at this point I will not confirm which compatibility kits will be available.
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^^ That is the wrong attachment.
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This is the all black set.
I like the idea of a barebones base kit and extra child kits but there might be problems with reaching the MOQ...
I would be down for at least 1 base set and a set of accent keys and novelties.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 15 March 2017, 18:27:27
I like the idea of a barebones base kit and extra child kits but there might be problems with reaching the MOQ...
I would be down for at least 1 base set and a set of accent keys and novelties.
I think I will combine the coloured accent kits into one kit :
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Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 15 March 2017, 18:29:38
love it, the orange accent keys look really good, and i really like the simplicity of the white ones.
Thank you! I have combined them into one kit to reduce costs.
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Post by: Atredl on Wed, 15 March 2017, 18:34:25
Have you given thought to the kind of compatibility keys you're going to include?
IMO GMK terminal did a really good job with the extra compatibility keys. If a similar all in one kit could be made for this set, I would buy it in a heartbeat.
I think I will organise the group buy to be like GMK Terminal. There will be one large base kit, and then further additional kits. I don't want the initial base kit too be too expensive, so at this point I will not confirm which compatibility kits will be available.
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^^ That is the wrong attachment.
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This is the all black set.
GMK is notorious for being difficult to reach MOQ since they need to reach 150 orders on each kit. I might be weary of what you include in the compatibility kits as they most likely won't make it. Then once it becomes clear someones kit isn't going to be made they'll drop out of the buy. Most GMK kits include color accents within the main kit because of this difficulty. It's much more possible to get kits into production with SP since their MOQ is much lower.
Edit: If you want to go really barebones with the main kit, I would look at what Manifex did with GMK stormtrooper. His kit came up to be $100 during the GB period, which I think is a really good price, and it had all of the "standard" keys but omitted things like 1800, 75%, and smaller layouts. It's completely up to you how to run this GB but it's best to look at all the options.
Link to GMK stormtrooper:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82240.0
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 15 March 2017, 18:44:30
I think I will combine the coloured accent kits into one kit :
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I think if you're just going to have 4 colored keys, it might as well be in the base kit. I also liked the original orange base and black (?) legend accent caps more than the current image. Also, numpad enter accent please! Tough to tell how well the dark on dark will play out in these basic images but I think that most of the purchasers would be expecting something similar to RF caps in terms of legend visibility, possibly a bit better.
While splitting it into kits might be an issue, I don't think a single color accent kit would have much trouble making MOQ if the base set doesn't have trouble either. Nor would a non-standard layout kit. It might make for a cheaper base set but more expensive add-ons but honestly, I like the concept enough (personally) that I wouldn't have any issue with that. Hope to see this happen.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 15 March 2017, 18:47:24
GMK is notorious for being difficult to reach MOQ since they need to reach 150 orders on each kit. I might be weary of what you include in the compatibility kits as they most likely won't make it. Then once it becomes clear someones kit isn't going to be made they'll drop out of the buy. Most GMK kits include color accents within the main kit because of this difficulty. It's much more possible to get kits into production with SP since their MOQ is much lower.
Edit: If you want to go really barebones with the main kit, I would look at what Manifex did with GMK stormtrooper. His kit came up to be $100 during the GB period, which I think is a really good price, and it had all of the "standard" keys but omitted things like 1800, 75%, and smaller layouts. It's completely up to you how to run this GB but it's best to look at all the options.
Link to GMK stormtrooper:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=82240.0
I think if you're just going to have 4 colored keys, it might as well be in the base kit. I also liked the original orange base and black (?) legend accent caps more than the current image. Also, numpad enter accent please! Tough to tell how well the dark on dark will play out in these basic images but I think that most of the purchasers would be expecting something similar to RF caps in terms of legend visibility, possibly a bit better.
While splitting it into kits might be an issue, I don't think a single color accent kit would have much trouble making MOQ if the base set doesn't have trouble either. Nor would a non-standard layout kit. It might make for a cheaper base set but more expensive add-ons but honestly, I like the concept enough (personally) that I wouldn't have any issue with that. Hope to see this happen.
I think that the base kit will include the black kit, compatibility keys, coloured accents and novelties. There will be an additional international kit, and possibly a spacebar kit. I would like to include a Planck kit, but I do not think it will reach MOQ.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 15 March 2017, 18:48:53
I think if you're just going to have 4 colored keys, it might as well be in the base kit. I also liked the original orange base and black (?) legend accent caps more than the current image. Also, numpad enter accent please! Tough to tell how well the dark on dark will play out in these basic images but I think that most of the purchasers would be expecting something similar to RF caps in terms of legend visibility, possibly a bit better.
While splitting it into kits might be an issue, I don't think a single color accent kit would have much trouble making MOQ if the base set doesn't have trouble either. Nor would a non-standard layout kit. It might make for a cheaper base set but more expensive add-ons but honestly, I like the concept enough (personally) that I wouldn't have any issue with that. Hope to see this happen.
What do you think of these coloured accent keys?
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Post by: dgneo on Wed, 15 March 2017, 18:52:25
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 15 March 2017, 19:00:31
imo you'd get a better color palette from operation doomsday
I think the album artwork for both albums is great.
The reason I have decided to use Madvillainy is because the image is so striking, and I love looking at the artwork. I think the artwork is amazing because you see the image of DOOM and it's like the image is pulling you in, trying to get you to listen to the music on the record. I don' t think it is an image that you can easily forget, it's definitely one of my favourite album covers of all time.
Thank you for your suggestion.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 15 March 2017, 19:38:00
How about "meat grinder" as the "backspace" key? :D
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"All Caps" for Caps Lock? :)
Post by: LDobler on Wed, 15 March 2017, 19:39:22
How about "meat grinder" as the "backspace" key? :D
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"All Caps" for Caps Lock? :)
Damn.... Missed the obvious opportunity :D
Post by: shinz0 on Wed, 15 March 2017, 19:56:35
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 15 March 2017, 20:57:06
take away the orange backspace and this set could also work as an IC for GMK Keycap Set Based On Kendrick Lamar's "To Pimp A Butterfly"
I think this colour scheme could work for many albums that feature black, white and grey.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 15 March 2017, 22:21:18
I think if you're just going to have 4 colored keys, it might as well be in the base kit. I also liked the original orange base and black (?) legend accent caps more than the current image. Also, numpad enter accent please! Tough to tell how well the dark on dark will play out in these basic images but I think that most of the purchasers would be expecting something similar to RF caps in terms of legend visibility, possibly a bit better.
While splitting it into kits might be an issue, I don't think a single color accent kit would have much trouble making MOQ if the base set doesn't have trouble either. Nor would a non-standard layout kit. It might make for a cheaper base set but more expensive add-ons but honestly, I like the concept enough (personally) that I wouldn't have any issue with that. Hope to see this happen.
I have added the base kit.
Post by: ashwinv11 on Wed, 15 March 2017, 22:58:40
Post by: ygor on Wed, 15 March 2017, 22:59:19
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 15 March 2017, 23:03:11
Villian get the money like curls, they just tryna get a nut like squirrels in this mad world :thumb:
It's great to know you are a fan of DOOM. I hope you like this keycap set!
Vik gonna be pissed.
Apologies, but what/whom you are referring to?
Post by: ygor on Wed, 15 March 2017, 23:05:41
Vik gonna be pissed.
Apologies, but what/whom you are referring to?
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 15 March 2017, 23:15:35
It's great to know that you are also a fan of DOOM. What do you think of this keycap set?
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 16 March 2017, 00:09:01
Post by: Rafa_n on Thu, 16 March 2017, 08:21:47
A lot of sets have been including it lately.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 16 March 2017, 10:14:22
I like it but I don't know if it'll make it to MOQ. Definitely might get a set, though.
Thank you for the feedback. The base kit will include all of the compatibility keys for the most common layouts, without being to expensive. Hopefully that will help it to reach MOQ.
As a totally biased fc660c owner, with a clueboard on the mail, would it be possible to add a 2.25 shift to the base kit?
A lot of sets have been including it lately.
Are there any other keys I would need to include?
Post by: Rafa_n on Thu, 16 March 2017, 11:18:26
I like it but I don't know if it'll make it to MOQ. Definitely might get a set, though.
Thank you for the feedback. The base kit will include all of the compatibility keys for the most common layouts, without being to expensive. Hopefully that will help it to reach MOQ.As a totally biased fc660c owner, with a clueboard on the mail, would it be possible to add a 2.25 shift to the base kit?
A lot of sets have been including it lately.
Are there any other keys I would need to include?
just the additional 2.25 shift and you will cover all the 660 style boards.
Post by: My_Thoughts on Thu, 16 March 2017, 11:27:02
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 16 March 2017, 11:50:10
just the additional 2.25 shift and you will cover all the 660 style boards.
Ok, I will add it and update the Base Kit Image.
This is very interesting
Thank you for the feedback!
Post by: Slash Emperor on Thu, 16 March 2017, 12:17:50
Looking forward to this one!
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 16 March 2017, 12:19:13
I hope others can chime in about their preferred layout but once the 1.5u delete is fixed my layout looks like it's covered.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 16 March 2017, 13:23:42
Yes, yes, yes! I'd love to actually have sets inspired by albums I adore, like Madvillainy. The colors also also work quite well for Allelujah! Don't Bend! Ascend! (though I'd still be quite interested in something based off of LYSFLAttH as a set down the line as well).
Looking forward to this one!
Thank you for the feedback, it's great to know you like the set!
I was looking through the mockup and I noticed you have two 2u deletes. Those are usually 1.5u so they can be used in row2 for a hhkb style backspace.
I hope others can chime in about their preferred layout but once the 1.5u delete is fixed my layout looks like it's covered.
I have fixed the delete keys, they should be 1.5u now.
just the additional 2.25 shift and you will cover all the 660 style boards.
I have added the additional 2.25u Shift key.
Post by: dib_dubious on Thu, 16 March 2017, 13:40:02
Post by: Applet on Thu, 16 March 2017, 13:55:02
Also, can we have an "ALL CAPS" capslock key? :P (and maybe the mask?)
EDIT: Of course "ALL CAPS" was already suggested...
The set looks great
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 16 March 2017, 14:12:43
Definitely like the base kit support. I'd be in for a set.
Thank you for the feedback and support! It's great that you like the set!
Oooh, I love MF DOOM. Can we please have a separate novelties set? Don't think I can afford the entire set.
Also, can we have an "ALL CAPS" capslock key? :P (and maybe the mask?) EDIT: Of course allready suggested...
Thank you for the support! There will be a base kit, then a separate novelties pack. I am also considering adding an international kit. I think this will be the best way of producing this set.
Post by: yomammary on Thu, 16 March 2017, 14:20:19
Post by: ironpup on Thu, 16 March 2017, 15:30:53
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 16 March 2017, 15:40:12
MF DOOM based keyset? :thumb:
This set is dope af
It's great to know that you like this set! Thank you for the support!
Post by: krutmob on Thu, 16 March 2017, 15:45:09
I can already see a DOOM artisan cap on this tho . . .
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 16 March 2017, 17:38:06
I'm really into this. I think the colorway can appeal beyond DOOM's fanbase (and I think it has to to make MOQ). Those GMK MOQs are tough...
I can already see a DOOM artisan cap on this tho . . .
The base kit will be all black with grey legends, but there will be additional coloured keys included for the DOOM fans. There will also be a novelties kit.
Hopefully this will reach MOQ.
Post by: SpareWalrus on Thu, 16 March 2017, 18:04:42
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Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 16 March 2017, 18:30:06
Hmm, not sure. Would be nice of the orange matched the orange in the cover. Would prefer grey over white as well as the cover is more black/gray than black/white.
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Thank you for the feedback!
Here is an image with the changes you have suggested:
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I have changed the off-white coloured keys (GR1) to a grey (2B), and the orange keys have been changed from V2 to V1.
What do you think of these changes?
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 16 March 2017, 18:35:44
Hmm, not sure. Would be nice of the orange matched the orange in the cover. Would prefer grey over white as well as the cover is more black/gray than black/white.
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Thank you for the feedback!
Here is an image with the changes you have suggested:
I have changed the off-white coloured keys (GR1) to a grey (2B), and the orange keys have been changed from V2 to V1.
What do you think of these changes?
The image above is incorrect. The F and J (with bars) should be black, not coloured.
Here is the correct image:
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Post by: inosint on Fri, 17 March 2017, 02:31:47
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 17 March 2017, 02:49:33
Really digging this set. I miss the orange legends on black you had before. I do like the grey keys, would be nice to see the addition of a grey numpad enter.
I do think 2 accents with different base colors may be much though I do like one different base color. Yes accent numpad enter... Progressing nicely btw OP
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Fri, 17 March 2017, 11:56:56
Really digging this set. I miss the orange legends on black you had before. I do like the grey keys, would be nice to see the addition of a grey numpad enter.
I do think 2 accents with different base colors may be much though I do like one different base color. Yes accent numpad enter... Progressing nicely btw OP
I will add the grey Enter key.
I will also add a 2u Space Bar for Planck users. Are there any other keys required to make this compatible with a Planck?
Thank you for the kind words, I hope this set will reach MOQ.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Fri, 17 March 2017, 16:01:56
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Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 17 March 2017, 16:13:53
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Fri, 17 March 2017, 16:20:06
What row profile is the 1.5u bottom row? I'm hoping for a R5 set.
It will be R4.
The keycap set row configuration will be: R1-R1-R2-R3-R4-R4
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 17 March 2017, 16:23:26
The keycap set row configuration will be: R1-R1-R2-R3-R4-R4Ok. Thanks for the quick reply.
Post by: Vypr on Sun, 19 March 2017, 16:34:27
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 19 March 2017, 18:11:04
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Sun, 19 March 2017, 18:14:23
I like MF DOOM a lot, though it is a fairly hard album to derive a palette from I think it works fairly nicely - singular concern (not really), it sorta resembles the exclusive GMK set that's being produced along side the Exent keyboard; might be worth looking into.
Gotta be honest my first thought was the Extent keyset as well, not saying that is a bad or good thing.
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 19 March 2017, 18:18:04
Gotta be honest my first thought was the Extent keyset as well, not saying that is a bad or good thing.
Yea, I mean the red here is not actually red and the accents are in different positions and there's the white too but still, it just gives off a similar vibe for obvious reasons. Either way, I love the Exent set, so take that as one will!
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Sun, 19 March 2017, 18:24:58
Gotta be honest my first thought was the Extent keyset as well, not saying that is a bad or good thing.
Yea, I mean the red here is not actually red and the accents are in different positions and there's the white too but still, it just gives off a similar vibe for obvious reasons. Either way, I love the Exent set, so take that as one will!
Since this is a product of some changes and feedback to options given, I think it's important to not dwell on this comparison since comparisons usually carry a negative connotation in the keyset realm. I liked the Exent set a lot, they didn't want to make it full or available unless you bought the board which was a bummer.
I actually view this set in the same light as dark PBT sets, which everyone makes and is a fairly easy to use and great looking set. I'm really excited for the large compatibility and I like the accents. Sometimes, it's just nice to have a set that will go with whatever color artisan you have :P
Post by: duynguyenle on Sun, 19 March 2017, 18:48:56
I have added the coloured Enter key.
(Attachment Link)
Please could you consider adding the keys to support 1800 layout. This set already has most of the keys required (already has split numpad +/-, already has 1u numpad zero, already has 1.75u shift). The only keys you need to add for full 1800 compatibility would be R1 Delete, Pg Down and End. Seems like a waste to include most of the stuff needed for 1800 users but not all of it. This is especially a deal breaker for me.
Would like other 1800 users to chime in on this plz! ;)
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Sun, 19 March 2017, 18:51:04
I have added the coloured Enter key.
(Attachment Link)
Please could you consider adding the keys to support 1800 layout. This set already has most of the keys required (already has split numpad +/-, already has 1u numpad zero, already has 1.75u shift). The only keys you need to add for full 1800 compatibility would be R1 Delete, Pg Down and End. Seems like a waste to include most of the stuff needed for 1800 users but not all of it. This is especially a deal breaker for me.
Would like other 1800 users to chime in on this plz! ;)
Gotta be honest my first thought was the Extent keyset as well, not saying that is a bad or good thing.
Yea, I mean the red here is not actually red and the accents are in different positions and there's the white too but still, it just gives off a similar vibe for obvious reasons. Either way, I love the Exent set, so take that as one will!
Since this is a product of some changes and feedback to options given, I think it's important to not dwell on this comparison since comparisons usually carry a negative connotation in the keyset realm. I liked the Exent set a lot, they didn't want to make it full or available unless you bought the board which was a bummer.
I actually view this set in the same light as dark PBT sets, which everyone makes and is a fairly easy to use and great looking set. I'm really excited for the large compatibility and I like the accents. Sometimes, it's just nice to have a set that will go with whatever color artisan you have :P
Seconded
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Sun, 19 March 2017, 18:58:17
I have added the coloured Enter key.
(Attachment Link)
Please could you consider adding the keys to support 1800 layout. This set already has most of the keys required (already has split numpad +/-, already has 1u numpad zero, already has 1.75u shift). The only keys you need to add for full 1800 compatibility would be R1 Delete, Pg Down and End. Seems like a waste to include most of the stuff needed for 1800 users but not all of it. This is especially a deal breaker for me.
Would like other 1800 users to chime in on this plz! ;)
Agreed. I'm not well versed on keyset pricing but for myself, I'm willing to pay more for a highly compatible, highly versatile, and great looking set. Though, I definitely understand at some point compatibility leads to higher prices and excluding people which sucks.
Post by: Applet on Mon, 20 March 2017, 07:10:36
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 20 March 2017, 08:42:27
this set looks awesome, any chance of a 1.5u Backspace key as well?
Sure! Which layout would require the 1.5u Backspace? Do I need to add any other keys?
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 20 March 2017, 09:02:49
I like MF DOOM a lot, though it is a fairly hard album to derive a palette from I think it works fairly nicely - singular concern (not really), it sorta resembles the exclusive GMK set that's being produced along side the Exent keyboard; might be worth looking into.
I like MF DOOM a lot, though it is a fairly hard album to derive a palette from I think it works fairly nicely - singular concern (not really), it sorta resembles the exclusive GMK set that's being produced along side the Exent keyboard; might be worth looking into.Gotta be honest my first thought was the Extent keyset as well, not saying that is a bad or good thing.
Yea, I mean the red here is not actually red and the accents are in different positions and there's the white too but still, it just gives off a similar vibe for obvious reasons. Either way, I love the Exent set, so take that as one will!
Gotta be honest my first thought was the Extent keyset as well, not saying that is a bad or good thing.
Gotta be honest my first thought was the Extent keyset as well, not saying that is a bad or good thing.
Yea, I mean the red here is not actually red and the accents are in different positions and there's the white too but still, it just gives off a similar vibe for obvious reasons. Either way, I love the Exent set, so take that as one will!
Since this is a product of some changes and feedback to options given, I think it's important to not dwell on this comparison since comparisons usually carry a negative connotation in the keyset realm. I liked the Exent set a lot, they didn't want to make it full or available unless you bought the board which was a bummer.
I actually view this set in the same light as dark PBT sets, which everyone makes and is a fairly easy to use and great looking set. I'm really excited for the large compatibility and I like the accents. Sometimes, it's just nice to have a set that will go with whatever color artisan you have :P
Gotta be honest my first thought was the Extent keyset as well, not saying that is a bad or good thing.
Yea, I mean the red here is not actually red and the accents are in different positions and there's the white too but still, it just gives off a similar vibe for obvious reasons. Either way, I love the Exent set, so take that as one will!
Since this is a product of some changes and feedback to options given, I think it's important to not dwell on this comparison since comparisons usually carry a negative connotation in the keyset realm. I liked the Exent set a lot, they didn't want to make it full or available unless you bought the board which was a bummer.
I actually view this set in the same light as dark PBT sets, which everyone makes and is a fairly easy to use and great looking set. I'm really excited for the large compatibility and I like the accents. Sometimes, it's just nice to have a set that will go with whatever color artisan you have :P
Seconded
Thank you for the support, it's great to know that you like the set!
I did not know about the Exent keycap set, and only learnt about it after I had posted this interest check. As it has been mentioned before, the design of this keycap set has be subject to community feedback and has been altered heavily from the first designs that were posted.
I believe this set is different and has a clear theme. This keycap set will also aim to be more compatible and will feature an optional novelties set, to further distinguish it.
Do you prefer the white or grey accents?
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 20 March 2017, 09:04:55
I have added the coloured Enter key.
(Attachment Link)
Please could you consider adding the keys to support 1800 layout. This set already has most of the keys required (already has split numpad +/-, already has 1u numpad zero, already has 1.75u shift). The only keys you need to add for full 1800 compatibility would be R1 Delete, Pg Down and End. Seems like a waste to include most of the stuff needed for 1800 users but not all of it. This is especially a deal breaker for me.
Would like other 1800 users to chime in on this plz! ;)
Thank you for the feeback!
I will add the additional keys that you have mentioned.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 20 March 2017, 09:11:36
In what time frame are you aiming at launching this?
There is no definite date at the moment.
The following needs to be competed:
- Confirm whether this set will include grey or white accents.
- Finish the novelties pack.
- Confirm which layouts this will be compatible with.
- Confirm pricing.
As this will be organised through the capsunlocked store, I want to be confident that this will have a chance of reaching MOQ (150 units) before I launch the group buy.
May I ask, which accents do you prefer, white or grey?
Post by: Vypr on Mon, 20 March 2017, 11:00:26
this set looks awesome, any chance of a 1.5u Backspace key as well?
Sure! Which layout would require the 1.5u Backspace? Do I need to add any other keys?
This is used for the default Infinity 60% keyboard Standard and Hacker layouts (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/ (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/)), default White Fox keyboard True Fox layout (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/ (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/)).
Since these are programmable keyboards, I'm not sure if everybody uses the 1.5u backspace and it might just be a niche thing, but I love it since I do use it quite a bit and it's easier to reach. I've even programmed my VE.A keyboard to use the 1.5u backspace
Post by: inosint on Mon, 20 March 2017, 11:28:45
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 20 March 2017, 11:41:54
this set looks awesome, any chance of a 1.5u Backspace key as well?
Sure! Which layout would require the 1.5u Backspace? Do I need to add any other keys?
This is used for the default Infinity 60% keyboard Standard and Hacker layouts (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/ (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/)), default White Fox keyboard True Fox layout (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/ (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/)).
Since these are programmable keyboards, I'm not sure if everybody uses the 1.5u backspace and it might just be a niche thing, but I love it since I do use it quite a bit and it's easier to reach. I've even programmed my VE.A keyboard to use the 1.5u backspace
Isn't there already a 1.5u Delete for HHKB layout?
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 20 March 2017, 11:46:25
this set looks awesome, any chance of a 1.5u Backspace key as well?
Sure! Which layout would require the 1.5u Backspace? Do I need to add any other keys?
This is used for the default Infinity 60% keyboard Standard and Hacker layouts (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/ (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/)), default White Fox keyboard True Fox layout (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/ (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/)).
Since these are programmable keyboards, I'm not sure if everybody uses the 1.5u backspace and it might just be a niche thing, but I love it since I do use it quite a bit and it's easier to reach. I've even programmed my VE.A keyboard to use the 1.5u backspace
Isn't there already a 1.5u Delete for HHKB layout?
There is, this is my mistake for not pointing this out earlier.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 20 March 2017, 11:51:06
this set looks awesome, any chance of a 1.5u Backspace key as well?
Sure! Which layout would require the 1.5u Backspace? Do I need to add any other keys?
This is used for the default Infinity 60% keyboard Standard and Hacker layouts (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/ (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/)), default White Fox keyboard True Fox layout (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/ (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/)).
Since these are programmable keyboards, I'm not sure if everybody uses the 1.5u backspace and it might just be a niche thing, but I love it since I do use it quite a bit and it's easier to reach. I've even programmed my VE.A keyboard to use the 1.5u backspace
Isn't there already a 1.5u Delete for HHKB layout?
There is, this is my mistake for not pointing this out earlier.
That 1.5u is R2, I have added a R1 1.5u Backspace. If the R2 1.5u is fine then I will remove the R1 Backspace.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 20 March 2017, 11:53:48
UPDATE 4:
Version 1
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Version 3:
[attachimg=1]
I prefer Version 3 with the grey accents. the backspace colour is now orange and not red, this is to match the album cover.
+1 grey accents
Thank you for the feedback!
Post by: Applet on Mon, 20 March 2017, 12:11:37
May I ask, which accents do you prefer, white or grey?Sounds good. I prefer the grey ones ;D
Post by: Vypr on Mon, 20 March 2017, 12:23:53
this set looks awesome, any chance of a 1.5u Backspace key as well?
Sure! Which layout would require the 1.5u Backspace? Do I need to add any other keys?
This is used for the default Infinity 60% keyboard Standard and Hacker layouts (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/ (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/)), default White Fox keyboard True Fox layout (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/ (https://input.club/devices/infinity-keyboard/)).
Since these are programmable keyboards, I'm not sure if everybody uses the 1.5u backspace and it might just be a niche thing, but I love it since I do use it quite a bit and it's easier to reach. I've even programmed my VE.A keyboard to use the 1.5u backspace
Isn't there already a 1.5u Delete for HHKB layout?
There is, this is my mistake for not pointing this out earlier.
That 1.5u is R2, I have added a R1 1.5u Backspace. If the R2 1.5u is fine then I will remove the R1 Backspace.
The R2 1.5u Backspace would be preferable to the R1 for the layouts I listed, but again it might be a niche thing and I don't know how many people keep that layout on those boards.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 20 March 2017, 12:38:26
The R2 1.5u Backspace would be preferable to the R1 for the layouts I listed, but again it might be a niche thing and I don't know how many people keep that layout on those boards.
What? Can you state exactly what you wanted OP to add? Because he added an R1 1.5u Backspace as there was already 2 R2 1.5u Delete keys prior to the suggestion to add a 1.5u Backspace.
Post by: Captainbuttmonkey on Mon, 20 March 2017, 12:57:06
Post by: Vypr on Mon, 20 March 2017, 13:05:04
The R2 1.5u Backspace would be preferable to the R1 for the layouts I listed, but again it might be a niche thing and I don't know how many people keep that layout on those boards.
What? Can you state exactly what you wanted OP to add? Because he added an R1 1.5u Backspace as there was already 2 R2 1.5u Delete keys prior to the suggestion to add a 1.5u Backspace.
(https://i.imgur.com/aTzHB.jpg)
Sorry I was unclear, hopefully this image will explain it better. I'm currently using a R2 1.5u Backspace (where the 1.5u Delete key is in the pic) and I use a R1 1u Delete key (where the tilde key is)
If this is too much trouble, then I'll be fine with the R2 1.5u Delete key. Like I said, I don't know how many people use a 1.5u Backspace key (on R2) and what it essentialy boils down to is that I'd rather the key say Backspace instead of Delete.
Post by: Atredl on Mon, 20 March 2017, 13:14:04
The R2 1.5u Backspace would be preferable to the R1 for the layouts I listed, but again it might be a niche thing and I don't know how many people keep that layout on those boards.
What? Can you state exactly what you wanted OP to add? Because he added an R1 1.5u Backspace as there was already 2 R2 1.5u Delete keys prior to the suggestion to add a 1.5u Backspace.
While we're talking about the 1.5u delete/backspace key, can we talk about what legend is preferred?
1. (http://i.imgur.com/FoehpSM.jpg)
2. (http://i.imgur.com/FAlZyVw.jpg)
3. (http://i.imgur.com/PElMPzb.png)
My preference is for 1, while 2 would be my second choice.
I've never seen a 1.5u key with "Backspace" written out and I assume its because it doesn't fit.
Post by: Vypr on Mon, 20 March 2017, 13:18:15
The R2 1.5u Backspace would be preferable to the R1 for the layouts I listed, but again it might be a niche thing and I don't know how many people keep that layout on those boards.
What? Can you state exactly what you wanted OP to add? Because he added an R1 1.5u Backspace as there was already 2 R2 1.5u Delete keys prior to the suggestion to add a 1.5u Backspace.
While we're talking about the 1.5u delete/backspace key, can we talk about what legend is preferred?
1.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FoehpSM.jpg)
2.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FAlZyVw.jpg)
3.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PElMPzb.png)
My preference is for 1, while 2 would be my second choice.
I've never seen a 1.5u key with "Backspace" written out and I assume its because it doesn't fit.
(http://i.imgur.com/bAkJce6.jpg)
I have it on mine, but it's split into Back Space, although I'm using a R2 Delete key in this pic, I've since changed it to R1 where the Tilde key is.
Post by: Atredl on Mon, 20 March 2017, 13:25:57
The R2 1.5u Backspace would be preferable to the R1 for the layouts I listed, but again it might be a niche thing and I don't know how many people keep that layout on those boards.
What? Can you state exactly what you wanted OP to add? Because he added an R1 1.5u Backspace as there was already 2 R2 1.5u Delete keys prior to the suggestion to add a 1.5u Backspace.
Those keys aren't made by GMK though and GMK is the intended maker of this set. As far as I know GMK has never made a 1.5u "Backspace" key.
While we're talking about the 1.5u delete/backspace key, can we talk about what legend is preferred?
1.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FoehpSM.jpg)
2.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/FAlZyVw.jpg)
3.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PElMPzb.png)
My preference is for 1, while 2 would be my second choice.
I've never seen a 1.5u key with "Backspace" written out and I assume its because it doesn't fit.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bAkJce6.jpg)
I have it on mine, but it's split into Back Space, although I'm using a R2 Delete key in this pic, I've since changed it to R1 where the Tilde key is.
Those keys aren't made by GMK though and GMK is the intended maker of this keyset. As far as I know they've never made a 1.5u "Backspace" key.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 20 March 2017, 13:51:01
The R2 1.5u Backspace would be preferable to the R1 for the layouts I listed, but again it might be a niche thing and I don't know how many people keep that layout on those boards.
What? Can you state exactly what you wanted OP to add? Because he added an R1 1.5u Backspace as there was already 2 R2 1.5u Delete keys prior to the suggestion to add a 1.5u Backspace.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/aTzHB.jpg)
Sorry I was unclear, hopefully this image will explain it better. I'm currently using a R2 1.5u Backspace (where the 1.5u Delete key is in the pic) and I use a R1 1u Delete key (where the tilde key is)
If this is too much trouble, then I'll be fine with the R2 1.5u Delete key. Like I said, I don't know how many people use a 1.5u Backspace key (on R2) and what it essentialy boils down to is that I'd rather the key say Backspace instead of Delete.
So, the R1 1.5u Backspace key OP added is not needed, you just want the legend to be different on the 1.5u Delete key. The intended purpose of this cap is to be used as a backspace key on HHKB layouts, evidenced by the orange R2 Delete key in the current set and the orange R1 Backspace key.
Also, I like grey accents and am indifferent towards the legend on the R2 1.5u HHKB Delete key.
FYI you are not alone in your use of that key, it's not too uncommon: http://imgur.com/a/L7kdt
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 20 March 2017, 17:27:32
The R2 1.5u Backspace would be preferable to the R1 for the layouts I listed, but again it might be a niche thing and I don't know how many people keep that layout on those boards.
What? Can you state exactly what you wanted OP to add? Because he added an R1 1.5u Backspace as there was already 2 R2 1.5u Delete keys prior to the suggestion to add a 1.5u Backspace.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/aTzHB.jpg)
Sorry I was unclear, hopefully this image will explain it better. I'm currently using a R2 1.5u Backspace (where the 1.5u Delete key is in the pic) and I use a R1 1u Delete key (where the tilde key is)
If this is too much trouble, then I'll be fine with the R2 1.5u Delete key. Like I said, I don't know how many people use a 1.5u Backspace key (on R2) and what it essentialy boils down to is that I'd rather the key say Backspace instead of Delete.
So, the R1 1.5u Backspace key OP added is not needed, you just want the legend to be different on the 1.5u Delete key. The intended purpose of this cap is to be used as a backspace key on HHKB layouts, evidenced by the orange R2 Delete key in the current set and the orange R1 Backspace key.
Also, I like grey accents and am indifferent towards the legend on the R2 1.5u HHKB Delete key.
FYI you are not alone in your use of that key, it's not too uncommon: http://imgur.com/a/L7kdt
I have removed the R1 1.5u key.
[Version 1]
[attachimg=1]
[Version 3]
[attachimg=2]
I also prefer the grey accents.
Are there any other keys I need to add?
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 20 March 2017, 17:33:11
I'm down for the grey personally. Would be nice to see a render if/when you get the chance :thumb:
May I ask, which accents do you prefer, white or grey?Sounds good. I prefer the grey ones ;D
Thank you for the feedback! I am working on getting some renders produced, I just wanted to confirm the colour scheme. I think most people interested in this set would prefer grey accents.
Post by: inosint on Mon, 20 March 2017, 17:50:46
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 20 March 2017, 17:57:14
Hhkb still does need a r2 1.5u backspace. Maybe replace the 1.5 delete keys with the more neutral "x" legend Vypr pointed out?
How does this look?
[attachimg=1]
Post by: Vypr on Mon, 20 March 2017, 18:03:37
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Post by: Atredl on Mon, 20 March 2017, 18:49:49
Post by: inosint on Mon, 20 March 2017, 19:15:29
Looks goodHhkb still does need a r2 1.5u backspace. Maybe replace the 1.5 delete keys with the more neutral "x" legend Vypr pointed out?
How does this look?
(Attachment Link)
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 20 March 2017, 19:52:10
Awesome
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:thumb:
Looks good
Thank you for the feedback!
I will get some renders produced as soon as possible.
What is the best way to design novelties?
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 20 March 2017, 20:04:25
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 20 March 2017, 20:51:28
Shaping up very nicely!
Thank you!
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 21 March 2017, 06:36:02
[attachimg=1]
Colours used:
CR/CB
CB/CR
V2/CR
KLE link (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/##@@_c=%23171718&t=%239b9284%3B&=Esc&_x:1&c=%239b9284&t=%23000000%3B&=F1&=F2&=F3&=F4&_x:0.5%3B&=F5&=F6&=F7&=F8&_x:0.5%3B&=F9&=F10&=F11&=F12&_x:0.25&c=%23ee6d00&t=%23171718%3B&=PrtSc&=Scroll%20Lock&=Pause%0ABreak%3B&@_y:0.5&c=%239b9284%3B&=~%0A%60&=!%0A1&=%2F@%0A2&=%23%0A3&_c=%23171718&t=%239b9284%3B&=$%0A4&=%25%0A5&=%5E%0A6&=%2F&%0A7&=*%0A8&=(%0A9&_c=%239b9284&t=%23171718%3B&=)%0A0&=%2F_%0A-&=+%0A%2F=&_w:2%3B&=Backspace&_x:0.25&c=%23ee6d00%3B&=Insert&=Home&_t=%23000000%3B&=PgUp%3B&@_c=%239b9284&t=%23171718&w:1.5%3B&=Tab&=Q&=W&_c=%23171718&t=%239b9284%3B&=E&=R&=T&=Y&=U&=I&=O&_c=%239b9284&t=%23171718%3B&=P&=%7B%0A%5B&=%7D%0A%5D&_w:1.5%3B&=%7C%0A%5C&_x:0.25&c=%23ee6d00%3B&=Delete&=End&=PgDn%3B&@_c=%239b9284&w:1.25&w2:1.75&l:true%3B&=Caps%20Lock&_x:0.5%3B&=A&_c=%23171718&t=%239b9284%3B&=S&=D&=F&=G&=H&=J&=K&=L&=%2F:%0A%2F%3B&_c=%239b9284&t=%23171718%3B&=%22%0A'&_w:2.25%3B&=Enter%3B&@_w:2.25%3B&=Shift&_c=%23171718&t=%239b9284%3B&=Z&=X&=C&=V&=B&=N&=M&=%3C%0A,&=%3E%0A.&=%3F%0A%2F%2F&_c=%239b9284&t=%23171718&w:2.75%3B&=Shift&_x:1.25&c=%23171718&t=%239b9284%3B&=%E2%86%91%3B&@_w:1.25%3B&=Ctrl&_w:1.25%3B&=Win&_w:1.25%3B&=Alt&_a:7&w:6.25%3B&=&_a:4&w:1.25%3B&=Alt&_w:1.25%3B&=Win&_w:1.25%3B&=Menu&_w:1.25%3B&=Ctrl&_x:0.25%3B&=%E2%86%90&=%E2%86%93&=%E2%86%92) for your convenience.
Post by: calavera on Tue, 21 March 2017, 08:27:11
Post by: Applet on Tue, 21 March 2017, 10:12:10
Post by: Rafa_n on Tue, 21 March 2017, 10:30:41
As a 75% user I would have liked the alternative profile pgup/pgdown and home/end keys (also for 65% users), but I understand if those are sacrificed to keep the set economical.
+1
75% and 65% have become very popular in the last year, and they only require 3 or 4 extra keys.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 21 March 2017, 11:43:29
can't wait to see GMK render pics when it moves to the next stage. :o
The renders will be available soon! :D
As a 75% user I would have liked the alternative profile pgup/pgdown and home/end keys (also for 65% users), but I understand if those are sacrificed to keep the set economical.
+1
75% and 65% have become very popular in the last year, and they only require 3 or 4 extra keys.
I am happy to make this compatible with 75% keyboards. Which extra keys are required, and which Row should they be?
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 21 March 2017, 20:21:27
I am happy to make this compatible with 75% keyboards. Which extra keys are required, and which Row should they be?
I believe, R2 Pg Up, R3 Pg Dn, R4 End would make it 75% compatible. The R1 Del is supplied by the 1800 compatibility.
Post by: x86ect on Tue, 21 March 2017, 21:09:05
I joined just for this set. :)
Post by: breckstar on Tue, 21 March 2017, 21:21:40
Post by: Applet on Wed, 22 March 2017, 04:59:34
I believe, R2 Pg Up, R3 Pg Dn, R4 End would make it 75% compatibleYes, exactly, I was thinking of those keys
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 22 March 2017, 10:21:55
I believe, R2 Pg Up, R3 Pg Dn, R4 End would make it 75% compatible. The R1 Del is supplied by the 1800 compatibility.
Yes, exactly, I was thinking of those keys
Thank you for the help, I have added those keys.
Any chance we could get a R1, 1u, backspace? Left arrow or BS works.
I joined just for this set. :)
Thank you for the support. I have included the R1 1u Backspace.
Here is the new base kit.
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Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 22 March 2017, 12:10:28
Currently the only space bar sizes are 6.25u and 7u.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 22 March 2017, 12:36:48
Base Kit - 140 GBP / 174.324 USD / 161.564 EUR
NOTE: THESE PRICES ARE BASED ON THE EXCHANGE RATE USED ON 22/03/2017. PRICES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
Post by: LDobler on Wed, 22 March 2017, 12:50:12
Especially for a EU GMK GB...
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Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 22 March 2017, 13:13:05
This is rather expenisve :(
Especially for a EU GMK GB...
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Did you expect to not have to pay VAT just because it's an European GMK buy? That's not how it works at all.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 22 March 2017, 13:32:41
[PRICING]
Base Kit - 140 GBP / 174.324 USD / 161.564 EUR
NOTE: THESE PRICES ARE BASED ON THE EXCHANGE RATE USED ON 22/03/2017. PRICES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
What do you expect shipping to US to be?
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 22 March 2017, 14:29:28
This is rather expenisve :(
Especially for a EU GMK GB...
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Especially for a EU GMK GB...
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Did you expect to not have to pay VAT just because it's an European GMK buy? That's not how it works at all.
The reason this is more expensive than originally planned is because a large amount of keys have been added to make this set compatible with more layouts.
What do you expect shipping to US to be?
Shipping to the UK: 5 GBP
Shipping to the EU: 7.50 GBP
Shipping to North America: 10 GBP
At this moment these prices are rough estimates, but it is likely they will not change. I do not want there to be large shipping fees with this set.
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 22 March 2017, 14:32:16
The reason this is more expensive than originally planned is because a large amount of keys have been added to make this set compatible with more layouts.
I understand - my sole point was that the person I replied to seemed to be implying that the prices are high for an EU (or UK, I guess) GMK buy as if the prices are supposed to be that different from an US one; VAT is basically the same, only difference is it is already included in the base price rather than having to pay it upon distribution arrival.
Shipping prices are awesome, by the way.
Post by: LDobler on Wed, 22 March 2017, 14:36:21
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Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 22 March 2017, 15:07:24
If someone from the US purchases GMK sets, seeing as they will not stay within the EU and will be exported to a place with no tax (save a few states where there's state taxing), the VAT (19% in Germany) is deducted from the final price - this is how it works in theory, some businesses don't handle it properly and then it gets confusing but if all is done according to how the law works, that should be how it is handled for most industry sectors I am familiar with. Thus, if something is produced within the EU and distributed within the EU, VAT still applies.
Post by: LDobler on Wed, 22 March 2017, 15:08:52
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Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 22 March 2017, 16:11:49
The reason this is more expensive than originally planned is because a large amount of keys have been added to make this set compatible with more layouts.
I understand - my sole point was that the person I replied to seemed to be implying that the prices are high for an EU (or UK, I guess) GMK buy as if the prices are supposed to be that different from an US one; VAT is basically the same, only difference is it is already included in the base price rather than having to pay it upon distribution arrival.
Shipping prices are awesome, by the way.
Without going into too many details, this is fairly accurate.
Thank you, I understand the price for the set is high and I don't want to force potential buyers away with large shipping fees.
Post by: x86ect on Wed, 22 March 2017, 18:17:01
There is a duplicate grey negation key (on either side of the tilde)... We can replace that one!
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 22 March 2017, 20:41:38
As it stands this is on the very edge of what I would pay for a GB GMK set. Similar to Terminal.
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 22 March 2017, 21:23:33
Post by: Vypr on Wed, 22 March 2017, 21:26:04
The base cost is pretty high. May doom (heh) a novelties kit? While I appreciate the complete compatibility, I don't think it's necessary to not expect some flexibility by the purchasers. I mean, just because there is one request doesn't mean it needs to be added. It worries me as if that continues to be the case and it's not broken into kits, it'll become very bloated in price.
As it stands this is on the very edge of what I would pay for a GB GMK set. Similar to Terminal.
^ agreed. Careful catering to every single weird request like stepped 1.75u FN keys and stuff like that, just look at every other successful GMK buy and copy them more or less and see what you end up with (eg. Muted that's currently being ran, Terminal, Carbon, etc.).
I'd be ok with separating keys into separate add-on kits if it meant the whole project would be more successful
Post by: jal on Wed, 22 March 2017, 21:35:10
I adore this. A low-contrast gray-black set like this is exactly what I've wanted. Found a set a while back that was close, but was crappy quality.
Very much in, probably for two. (What? They're small.)
Post by: Applet on Thu, 23 March 2017, 03:37:07
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 23 March 2017, 03:46:16
Post by: LDobler on Thu, 23 March 2017, 03:47:30
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Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 23 March 2017, 03:50:52
Since you are based in the EU, at least still for some months, you can ask GMK to omit the payment of the VAT, this way your set will be 22% cheaper. You must give GMK a VAT registration number, it can be the number of a business, or something similar :thumb:
Furthermore, if this business is yours, or if it belongs to some friends of yours, you can deduct (don't know the exact term) this expense from your taxable income.
So in the end your set can be 20% ÷ 50% cheaper.
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Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 23 March 2017, 05:20:44
Since you are based in the EU, at least still for some months, you can ask GMK to omit the payment of the VAT, this way your set will be 22% cheaper. You must give GMK a VAT registration number, it can be the number of a business, or something similarYou're actually suggesting a fraud here and I would strongly suggest the vendor not to follow this wicked advice.
I don't know about the criminal law in the UK but around here in Italy VAT fraud is a criminal offence and I wouldn't be surprised if it was anywhere similar.
The only legal way not to pay Germany's VAT, which is 19% FIY Giorgio, is to wait for the actual Brexit, that way the UK would be considered an extra-european country and therefore not subject to EU VAT.
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 23 March 2017, 06:19:02
Since you are based in the EU, at least still for some months, you can ask GMK to omit the payment of the VAT, this way your set will be 22% cheaper. You must give GMK a VAT registration number, it can be the number of a business, or something similarYou're actually suggesting a fraud here and I would strongly suggest the vendor not to follow this wicked advice.
I don't know about the criminal law in the UK but around here in Italy VAT fraud is a criminal offence and I wouldn't be surprised if it was anywhere similar.
The only legal way not to pay Germany's VAT, which is 19% FIY Giorgio, is to wait for the actual Brexit, that way the UK would be considered an extra-european country and therefore not subject to EU VAT.
Are out of your mind??? Correct your statement IMMEDIATELY. What's wrong with you?
Countries within the EU
Selling to businesses
If you sell goods to another business and these goods are sent to another EU country, you do not charge VAT - if the customer has a valid VAT number.
http://europa.eu/youreurope/business/vat-customs/cross-border/index_en.htm
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 23 March 2017, 06:51:03
You must give GMK a VAT registration number, it can be the number of a business, or something similar
[..] if the customer has a valid VAT number.This make a huge difference. You're suggesting to provide a VAT number of a business, not theirs. You're implying that they can just fill the field and forget about VAT.
Post by: Giorgio on Thu, 23 March 2017, 07:05:01
You must give GMK a VAT registration number, it can be the number of a business, or something similar[..] if the customer has a valid VAT number.This make a huge difference. You're suggesting to provide a VAT number of a business, not theirs. You're implying that they can just fill the field and forget about VAT.
Something similar, I meant a professional, a doctor, a plumber, any****ing thing. What the **** do I know of what kind of job he does. And of course this number hasn't to be his number. If you have a friend in any business that is interested in running this, it hasn't to be his number you lunatic.
Post by: x86ect on Thu, 23 March 2017, 07:49:28
1) the RAID key idea
2) since split delete seems rare, could we just have one of the colours? Black is more versatile, but orange fits with the theme (choice is yours). This could also be a plain left arrow, if it costs less to manufacture (though the original idea is cool)
3) the extra negation key
4) usually the ESC key is a different colour; the tilde and negation keys don't seem to "require" those colours the way the ESC does. Maybe just keep them in black...?
5) the 2 different coloured 1.5u backspace; maybe pick one colour since it's a rare key too
Post by: ricyuyc on Thu, 23 March 2017, 09:36:17
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 23 March 2017, 10:54:54
Here are the changes that I have made so far:
- Removed coloured tilde keys.
- Removed extra barred F and J keys. The F and J are now barred as standard.
- Changed the arrow on the 1.5u Delete Key, to the word "Delete".
- Removed Black 1.5u Delete Key.
- Removed Black 1u Delete/Backspace Key.
- Removed R1 1u "Del, Pg Dn and End" Keys. This means that this set will no longer be compatible with 1800 style keyboards.
Please let me know your thoughts and feedback on these changes. I will provide you with an updated quote as soon as possible.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 23 March 2017, 11:42:15
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[PRICING]
Base Kit - 125 GBP / 156.60 USD / 145.17 EUR
NOTE: THESE PRICES ARE BASED ON THE EXCHANGE RATE USED ON 23/03/2017. PRICES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 23 March 2017, 12:12:34
Post by: Acerk on Thu, 23 March 2017, 12:20:37
Keeping with the dark concept, made up of the 3 darkest shades GMK offers.
(http://i.imgur.com/RqXiL4D.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/9qoUit8.png)
Hard to say what this would look like on a keyboard.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 23 March 2017, 12:30:16
I think since a lot of the attraction of this set is the ability to use it as a solely grey on black keyset, it would hurt it to remove the non-accent colored caps in favor of just having the accent colored caps. Rather, it may be better (if the option is to eliminate one or the other) to eliminate the accented version while leaving the base colored version. I definitely get where the want for the accent is coming from but I also think the 2u orange Backspace still effectively captures that.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 23 March 2017, 12:58:26
Please don't remove the black 1.5u delete key. Without it, I can't get myself to buy this set.
I would add 1800 compatibility back as it is fairly popular. I would probably remove the 1.5u Orange Delete in favor of a black. I would probably require the people who want a 1u Backspace to suffice with the R1 Delete key supplied by 1800 compatibility.
I think since a lot of the attraction of this set is the ability to use it as a solely grey on black keyset, it would hurt it to remove the non-accent colored caps in favor of just having the accent colored caps. Rather, it may be better (if the option is to eliminate one or the other) to eliminate the accented version while leaving the base colored version. I definitely get where the want for the accent is coming from but I also think the 2u orange Backspace still effectively captures that.
Are you suggesting layout similar to this?
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Post by: x86ect on Thu, 23 March 2017, 13:03:43
Please don't remove the black 1.5u delete key. Without it, I can't get myself to buy this set.I would add 1800 compatibility back as it is fairly popular. I would probably remove the 1.5u Orange Delete in favor of a black. I would probably require the people who want a 1u Backspace to suffice with the R1 Delete key supplied by 1800 compatibility.
I think since a lot of the attraction of this set is the ability to use it as a solely grey on black keyset, it would hurt it to remove the non-accent colored caps in favor of just having the accent colored caps. Rather, it may be better (if the option is to eliminate one or the other) to eliminate the accented version while leaving the base colored version. I definitely get where the want for the accent is coming from but I also think the 2u orange Backspace still effectively captures that.
Are you suggesting layout similar to this?
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YES PLEASE! Keep the 1u backspace!
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 23 March 2017, 13:18:03
YES PLEASE! Keep the 1u backspace!
It is going to stay, there probably just won't be a coloured version of it.
Post by: x86ect on Thu, 23 March 2017, 13:24:08
It is going to stay, there probably just won't be a coloured version of it.
Thank you kindly, good sir. You may take my money.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 23 March 2017, 13:27:34
Please don't remove the black 1.5u delete key. Without it, I can't get myself to buy this set.I would add 1800 compatibility back as it is fairly popular. I would probably remove the 1.5u Orange Delete in favor of a black. I would probably require the people who want a 1u Backspace to suffice with the R1 Delete key supplied by 1800 compatibility.
I think since a lot of the attraction of this set is the ability to use it as a solely grey on black keyset, it would hurt it to remove the non-accent colored caps in favor of just having the accent colored caps. Rather, it may be better (if the option is to eliminate one or the other) to eliminate the accented version while leaving the base colored version. I definitely get where the want for the accent is coming from but I also think the 2u orange Backspace still effectively captures that.
Are you suggesting layout similar to this?
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Yes, I'm sure others will disagree and lay down ultimatums of never joining without ____ key!
I use the 1.5u Backspace and I'd much rather have a base colored than an accented so I can match the set with whatever I'd want. 2u is used by a large majority (I have this too) so it makes sense to have both accented and non. 1800 compatibility is pretty much becoming standard compatibility to add. IMO opinion it works, hopefully can get the price down a bit.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 23 March 2017, 14:18:12
This would allow customers who want this just for the black and grey to purchase this, without having to pay to much and forcing them to purchase keys they do not want.
These would be the 2 kits:
- Base kits (All Black Keycaps with Grey Legends + 1 Orange Backspace)
- Novelties + Coloured Accents. (Grey Keycaps + Novelties)
Also what do you think about the second backspace being black but the legend being orange? This would be instead of the entire key being orange.
Post by: LDobler on Thu, 23 March 2017, 14:31:01
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Post by: x86ect on Thu, 23 March 2017, 14:47:24
What if the base kit was all black with the additional orange backspace, but the novelties were bundled with the grey accents in a separate pack for those who wish to maintain the DOOM theme?
This would allow customers who want this just for the black and grey to purchase this, without having to pay to much and forcing them to purchase keys they do not want.
These would be the 2 kits:
- Base kits (All Black Keycaps with Grey Legends + 1 Orange Backspace)
- Novelties + Coloured Accents. (Grey Keycaps + Novelties)
Also what do you think about the second backspace being black but the legend being orange? This would be instead of the entire key being orange.
I can see this working out best.
I like the black with orange legend; it's a subtle nod to geekhack as well. If you want, you could have the full orange key in the novelty kit.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 23 March 2017, 15:18:22
What if the base kit was all black with the additional orange backspace, but the novelties were bundled with the grey accents in a separate pack for those who wish to maintain the DOOM theme?
This would allow customers who want this just for the black and grey to purchase this, without having to pay to much and forcing them to purchase keys they do not want.
These would be the 2 kits:
- Base kits (All Black Keycaps with Grey Legends + 1 Orange Backspace)
- Novelties + Coloured Accents. (Grey Keycaps + Novelties)
For me, I'm not a big novelty guy but it depends what the novelties are. So personally, I would like this if there was a color pack and then a novelty pack but this brings some MOQ questions up.
I would also like to keep the orange backspace as I feel it better displays the inspiration for this set and that a black base with orange legend may look more out of place. Whereas an orange base makes it clearly an accent.
It may be a poll would help.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 23 March 2017, 16:03:08
What if the base kit was all black with the additional orange backspace, but the novelties were bundled with the grey accents in a separate pack for those who wish to maintain the DOOM theme?
This would allow customers who want this just for the black and grey to purchase this, without having to pay to much and forcing them to purchase keys they do not want.
These would be the 2 kits:
- Base kits (All Black Keycaps with Grey Legends + 1 Orange Backspace)
- Novelties + Coloured Accents. (Grey Keycaps + Novelties)
For me, I'm not a big novelty guy but it depends what the novelties are. So personally, I would like this if there was a color pack and then a novelty pack but this brings some MOQ questions up.
I would also like to keep the orange backspace as I feel it better displays the inspiration for this set and that a black base with orange legend may look more out of place. Whereas an orange base makes it clearly an accent.
It may be a poll would help.
What if the base kit was all black with the additional orange backspace, but the novelties were bundled with the grey accents in a separate pack for those who wish to maintain the DOOM theme?
This would allow customers who want this just for the black and grey to purchase this, without having to pay to much and forcing them to purchase keys they do not want.
These would be the 2 kits:
- Base kits (All Black Keycaps with Grey Legends + 1 Orange Backspace)
- Novelties + Coloured Accents. (Grey Keycaps + Novelties)
Also what do you think about the second backspace being black but the legend being orange? This would be instead of the entire key being orange.
I can see this working out best.
I like the black with orange legend; it's a subtle nod to geekhack as well. If you want, you could have the full orange key in the novelty kit.
I would be in for 2 novelty sets. Those would fit GMK Dolch perfectly if you keep those colours :D
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These would be the two options for the new base kit.
[Version 1]
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[Version 2]
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Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 23 March 2017, 16:08:15
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 23 March 2017, 16:34:12
Please don't remove the black 1.5u delete key. Without it, I can't get myself to buy this set.I would add 1800 compatibility back as it is fairly popular. I would probably remove the 1.5u Orange Delete in favor of a black. I would probably require the people who want a 1u Backspace to suffice with the R1 Delete key supplied by 1800 compatibility.
I think since a lot of the attraction of this set is the ability to use it as a solely grey on black keyset, it would hurt it to remove the non-accent colored caps in favor of just having the accent colored caps. Rather, it may be better (if the option is to eliminate one or the other) to eliminate the accented version while leaving the base colored version. I definitely get where the want for the accent is coming from but I also think the 2u orange Backspace still effectively captures that.
Are you suggesting layout similar to this?
(Attachment Link)
Yes, I'm sure others will disagree and lay down ultimatums of never joining without ____ key!
I use the 1.5u Backspace and I'd much rather have a base colored than an accented so I can match the set with whatever I'd want. 2u is used by a large majority (I have this too) so it makes sense to have both accented and non. 1800 compatibility is pretty much becoming standard compatibility to add. IMO opinion it works, hopefully can get the price down a bit.
You said it in a much more detailed way than I did. I didn't want my comment to sound like an ultimatum but being able to have a full dark set is a big draw for me.
Thanks Mr. BeastQuake!
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 23 March 2017, 17:54:32
The base kit will no longer include the coloured accents, and there will be no pack for them. If you are reading this and you would like the coloured accents please let me know, I will keep them if there is a lot of support for them. The orange 1.5u backspace key will also be removed unless there is support for it. The 1u Black Backspace will stay.
I and going to replace the Coloured Backspace with an orange novelty that says "MADVILLAINY". The novelty keys will be included in the base kit. Including the "MADVILLAINY" keycap, there will also be:
- ALL CAPS Novelty Key
- Accordion Novelty Key
- DOOM (Text)
- DOOM's Mask
Hopefully these changes will reduce the cost of this set.
I appreciate all feedback.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed feedback to this set so far, I really appreciate it.
Post by: Vypr on Thu, 23 March 2017, 21:04:34
Really looking forward to this :thumb:
Post by: ricyuyc on Fri, 24 March 2017, 00:49:02
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=88254.0;attach=163681;image)
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 24 March 2017, 01:04:34
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Fri, 24 March 2017, 11:08:02
Personally, I like the grey accents and think they deserve a kit and a shot at MOQ. Buuuttttt part of me also thinks that an accent kit for this is any colored mod that has black legends and if you want to do that at a later date with the color tbd that works too ;)
I think that the idea about using 1 album to capture the personality and creativity of DOOM was perhaps the wrong way to go about designing a keycap set about him. Whilst it is a great album, and one of my all time favourites, it does not tell the entire story about doom.
If people were to purchase this keycap set, but then add their own coloured accents or modifiers they would still represent DOOM in their own way as his albums have had a variety of different colours over the years.
For those who want an all black keycap set, but are still fans of doom, the novelty keys will be a great addition to this kit.
I am not sure if I have explained this correctly, but I think it is an interesting way to think about this set.
Hopefully I will have images of the novelties and renders soon. I am not sure about whether to include the novelties in the base kit as there will only be 5 of them, I will wait for GMK to provide an updated quote.
Thank you for putting this together and taking the time to listen to us and our requests.
Really looking forward to this :thumb:
No problem! Thank you for the support!
Post by: LDobler on Fri, 24 March 2017, 11:11:19
I'm a fan of Doom's work and it would be a shame if the keycap set didn't capture it right. :thumb:
A poll would also be helpful. Or some kind of Google form.
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Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Fri, 24 March 2017, 11:13:17
I say we don't rush this!
I'm a fan of Doom's work and it would be a shame if the keycap set didn't capture it right. :thumb:
A poll would also be helpful. Or some kind of Google form.
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Post by: LDobler on Fri, 24 March 2017, 11:14:39
Sorry mate, I don't know.I say we don't rush this!
I'm a fan of Doom's work and it would be a shame if the keycap set didn't capture it right. :thumb:
A poll would also be helpful. Or some kind of Google form.
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Post by: kmba on Fri, 24 March 2017, 11:48:32
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Fri, 24 March 2017, 12:09:07
The problem with an all black set and recommending people add their own color kit is there's a severe lack of orange keys available elsewhere, and that was one of the major draws for me. Black, orange, gray just doesn't exist elsewhere and only a few sets (carbon, skidata) that are expensive to procure have any orange mods. I do think a color pack would be in order. You can get black on black sets already from several places.
Thank you for the feedback.
I think at the moment, to include the coloured keys in the base kit is too expensive. If I were to include the coloured keys in this group buy, they would be in a separate kit, however I was hesitant to suggest this as I am unsure about the coloured pack reaching the MOQ of 150.
If the demand is high for the coloured keys then I am happy to offer them as a separate pack.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 24 March 2017, 15:14:31
The problem with an all black set and recommending people add their own color kit is there's a severe lack of orange keys available elsewhere, and that was one of the major draws for me. Black, orange, gray just doesn't exist elsewhere and only a few sets (carbon, skidata) that are expensive to procure have any orange mods. I do think a color pack would be in order. You can get black on black sets already from several places.
Thank you for the feedback.
I think at the moment, to include the coloured keys in the base kit is too expensive. If I were to include the coloured keys in this group buy, they would be in a separate kit, however I was hesitant to suggest this as I am unsure about the coloured pack reaching the MOQ of 150.
If the demand is high for the coloured keys then I am happy to offer them as a separate pack.
I agree that if the main kit gets too expensive then the discussion of what to do with the accent keys is moot as the main kit would possibly have trouble reaching MOQ. It might be worth hitting up r/mk after adding a color pack and setting the kits (relatively) since there is just a large number of people there and could help get some hype going, giving a better indication of the overall interest level.
Post by: nickysan92 on Fri, 24 March 2017, 21:29:40
Post by: Jemaunji on Sat, 25 March 2017, 03:25:45
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 27 March 2017, 00:10:30
Definitely interested in this! I agree with some users as to keeping the look as per indicated in version 3. But I wouldn't mind an all-black+dark grey set nonetheless.
Interested! ;D
Thank you for the support!
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 27 March 2017, 00:16:14
- Icons from modifiers (& other keys) removed
- Numpad keycaps improved
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Post by: beninski on Mon, 27 March 2017, 01:06:26
Post by: x86ect on Mon, 27 March 2017, 09:52:22
It's becoming an end game set, CAPS. :thumb:
Post by: Applet on Mon, 27 March 2017, 10:06:07
Post by: Atredl on Mon, 27 March 2017, 12:56:04
Also I don't think that adding code will match with this sets Doom theme
Post by: KnightDX on Mon, 27 March 2017, 15:22:51
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 28 March 2017, 13:05:54
Very nice. I think the text-only modifiers look much better. What do you think about adding 'code' to the blank win keys?
Looks better with text only. I like the 'code' idea too.
It's becoming an end game set, CAPS. :thumb:
I think "code" feels a bit out of place in this sets theme. But better than a blank imo.
I hadn't thought about text only for this set but it does look attractive. Bring it on!
Also I don't think that adding code will match with this sets Doom theme
Deff keeping an eye on this , I love the color scheme.
Thank you for the feedback and support! I think the set looks much better without icons, and I am glad that others agree.
I agree that the keys don't look great blank, however I don't think "code" fits the theme.
I will add pricing for the set shown above as soon as possible.
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 28 March 2017, 14:35:07
I agree that the keys don't look great blank, however I don't think "code" fits the theme.How about novelties? That mask on the cover would look great.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 29 March 2017, 08:27:43
I agree that the keys don't look great blank, however I don't think "code" fits the theme.How about novelties? That mask on the cover would look great.
I am hoping to add more details about the novelties soon, but I can confirm that the mask design will be available most likely on a 1U R1 Key
Post by: x86ect on Thu, 30 March 2017, 08:28:54
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 30 March 2017, 08:30:33
I can confirm that the mask design will be available most likely on a 1U R1 KeyWinkey novelties might raise some interest, as many are unhappy with the actual windows symbol.
Post by: Atredl on Mon, 03 April 2017, 17:53:49
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 04 April 2017, 10:10:25
Any novelties or price updates? Also any idea when the GB is planned to be run?
Apologies for the lack of updates. I have submitted the revised base kit to GMK and I am currently waiting for them to provide me with a price. At the same time novelties are also being worked on, and I will post them soon.
I will hopefully run this group buy by the end of the month.
Post by: krutmob on Sun, 09 April 2017, 12:40:26
Post by: VereChi on Sun, 09 April 2017, 18:39:10
But a little bit pricey. :eek:
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 10 April 2017, 14:00:54
Talking with a jeweler friend of mind regarding making an MF DOOM metal face mask artisan for this. Interest?
Sure! Please send me a PM, I would like to discuss this further.
Nice looking set. I love black on Black.
But a little bit pricey. :eek:
Thank you for the feedback! I am still waiting to receive a quote from GMK for the latest base kit, however hopefully the price will be lower.
Post by: donjoan666 on Thu, 27 April 2017, 01:17:40
Talking with a jeweler friend of mind regarding making an MF DOOM metal face mask artisan for this. Interest?
Sure! Please send me a PM, I would like to discuss this further.Nice looking set. I love black on Black.
But a little bit pricey. :eek:
Thank you for the feedback! I am still waiting to receive a quote from GMK for the latest base kit, however hopefully the price will be lower.
Any chance to add the windowed keys? ;_; really looking for this.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Fri, 05 May 2017, 10:22:09
Post by: donjoan666 on Sat, 06 May 2017, 01:54:48
This keycap set is still happening. I am still waiting for GMK to provide me with a new quote, I am unsure as to why it is taking so long.
Thanks for the update. Hope they respond soon :)
Post by: merutz on Fri, 12 May 2017, 01:22:50
Anyway, it looks great! I'm definetely interested.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 22 May 2017, 09:45:45
Funny how I missed this IC until now. Just wanted to say this set seems identical(apart from the orange backspace) to the one run specially for the Exent - http://i.imgur.com/YyiDVrM.png
Anyway, it looks great! I'm definetely interested.
Thank you for the support!
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 22 May 2017, 09:47:03
I will be posting the new price and renders as soon as possible.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 22 May 2017, 10:37:43
[attachimg=1]
PRICING:
120.00 GBP / 156.01 USD / 138.96EUR
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 22 May 2017, 10:44:02
Post by: Robotical on Mon, 22 May 2017, 11:13:34
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 22 May 2017, 11:22:50
:thumb:
That GMK render might have just sold me on this set. :)
Thank you for the support! Hopefully there will be more renders coming soon! I am also working on posting the novelties as soon as possible.
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 22 May 2017, 12:37:06
Any chance to have Backspace R2 instead of Delete? Oblivion has it so it's possible.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 22 May 2017, 12:51:13
Lovely render.
Any chance to have Backspace R2 instead of Delete? Oblivion has it so it's possible.
Glad you like the render!
A few people have mentioned this, and I will work on getting the render updated.
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 22 May 2017, 13:52:31
I will work on getting the render updated.Great to hear. Thanks for taking our opinions into account.
One more thing: since you're using an iconless scheme, which is awesome, that R1 icon backspace has no reason to be, in my opinion.
Post by: Atredl on Mon, 22 May 2017, 14:10:35
...since you're using an iconless scheme, which is awesome...I agree. It was one of the reasons I joined oblivion and I'm glad this set is following suit.
Post by: x86ect on Mon, 22 May 2017, 17:08:38
I will work on getting the render updated.Great to hear. Thanks for taking our opinions into account.
One more thing: since you're using an iconless scheme, which is awesome, that R1 icon backspace has no reason to be, in my opinion.
The logic makes sense, so this could be changed to BS or a regular left arrow, if CAPS prefers.
The reason to keep the key is it would be one of only a few sets to support split backspace, making it more valuable.
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 22 May 2017, 17:38:49
this could be changed to BS or a regular left arrowBack arrow would be an icon over a whole set of text. Won't just fit if you ask me.
The reason to keep the key is it would be one of only a few sets to support split backspace, making it more valuable.I'm not against 1u R1 backspace, but I guess a text would look better, even if abbreviated to BS.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 23 May 2017, 10:00:15
I will work on getting the render updated.Great to hear. Thanks for taking our opinions into account.
One more thing: since you're using an iconless scheme, which is awesome, that R1 icon backspace has no reason to be, in my opinion.
I will work on getting the render updated.Great to hear. Thanks for taking our opinions into account.
One more thing: since you're using an iconless scheme, which is awesome, that R1 icon backspace has no reason to be, in my opinion.
The logic makes sense, so this could be changed to BS or a regular left arrow, if CAPS prefers.
The reason to keep the key is it would be one of only a few sets to support split backspace, making it more valuable.
this could be changed to BS or a regular left arrowBack arrow would be an icon over a whole set of text. Won't just fit if you ask me.The reason to keep the key is it would be one of only a few sets to support split backspace, making it more valuable.I'm not against 1u R1 backspace, but I guess a text would look better, even if abbreviated to BS.
Thank you for the feedback.
I have requested a new quote and render from GMK for the following changes:
- R2 1.5u Changed from "Delete" to "Backspace"
- R1 1u changed from "Backspace Icon" to "BS"
Post by: ricyuyc on Tue, 23 May 2017, 10:36:27
...Is it possible to keep the R2 1.5u "Delete"? then add additional 1.5u "Backspace" for those who need.
Thank you for the feedback.
I have requested a new quote and render from GMK for the following changes:
- R2 1.5u Changed from "Delete" to "Backspace"
- R1 1u changed from "Backspace Icon" to "BS"
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 23 May 2017, 10:56:05
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 23 May 2017, 11:06:43
- R1 1u changed from "Backspace Icon" to "BS"Great. Looking forward to it.
Is it possible to keep the R2 1.5u "Delete"? then add additional 1.5u "Backspace" for those who need.That makes sense.
isn't the reason for a 1.5u delete key because some don't like backspace broken into two lines?To my understanding, the reason for R2 1.5u Delete is for HHKB compatibility.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 23 May 2017, 11:22:12
isn't the reason for a 1.5u delete key because some don't like backspace broken into two lines?To my understanding, the reason for R2 1.5u Delete is for HHKB compatibility.
I just meant why someone would choose one over the other. For my HHKB backspace purposes, both are acceptable. I think Honeywell had an issue where people didn't like their 1.5u having back and space on different lines so they got a 1.5u Delete key made. Or maybe it was the other way around I'm not sure.
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 23 May 2017, 11:24:38
I just meant why someone would choose one over the other.It really comes down to personal preference. Perhaps having both, if the price increase isn't noticeable, is a wiser choise.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 23 May 2017, 11:51:42
isn't the reason for a 1.5u delete key because some don't like backspace broken into two lines?To my understanding, the reason for R2 1.5u Delete is for HHKB compatibility.
I just meant why someone would choose one over the other. For my HHKB backspace purposes, both are acceptable. I think Honeywell had an issue where people didn't like their 1.5u having back and space on different lines so they got a 1.5u Delete key made. Or maybe it was the other way around I'm not sure.
I just meant why someone would choose one over the other.It really comes down to personal preference. Perhaps having both, if the price increase isn't noticeable, is a wiser choise.
This is the new layout I will submit to Varmilo:
[attachimg=1]
Hopefully this meets most, if not all, requests.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 23 May 2017, 11:56:42
I agree that having an icon, in an otherwise iconless set does not make sense, however I don't feel "BS" entirely fits either.
I am considering having Back Space, but the font will be smaller.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 23 May 2017, 12:00:32
[attachimg=1]
Post by: x86ect on Tue, 23 May 2017, 12:19:51
Here is the design with the new 1u Backspace, the Backspace legends are not smaller.
Looks good to me.
Can you school me on how Varmilo relates to this GMK set?
Edit: or is that a question better left unasked?
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 23 May 2017, 12:22:23
Here is the design with the new 1u Backspace, the Backspace legends are not smaller.
Looks good to me.
Can you school me on how Varmilo relates to this GMK set?
My apologies, I meant this is the design I will submit to GMK.
I am currently in the process of submitting the most recent Varmilo group buy orders to Varmilo, and accidentally mentioned them
Post by: x86ect on Tue, 23 May 2017, 12:28:05
My apologies, I meant this is the design I will submit to GMK.
I am currently in the process of submitting the most recent Varmilo group buy orders to Varmilo, and accidentally mentioned them
Gotcha
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 23 May 2017, 13:04:11
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The novelty keys were designed by Inosint, I will be adding them to the OP.
I appreciate all feedback regarding these novelty keys. There is no price at the moment.
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 23 May 2017, 13:13:42
Post by: a_ak57 on Tue, 23 May 2017, 13:14:30
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 23 May 2017, 13:55:37
Looks very nice, although I'm pretty sure the orange ALL CAPS can't be made because that would require a triple shot cap. I read somewhere that they are possible but super expensive.
Are you planning for some of the novelties to be pad-printed? AFAIK GMK can't do triple shot, and there might be some issues with line thickness on some of those for double-shotting so you should check with GMK about their minimum thickness spec.
The novelties are currently being reworked. Whilst I like these novelties, I don't want to make this set too expensive.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 23 May 2017, 14:17:42
[attachimg=1]
[attachimg=2]
All feedback is appreciated!
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 23 May 2017, 14:33:39
I am considering having Back Space, but the font will be smaller.Is that possible with GMK?
Here is the design with the new 1u Backspace, the Backspace legends are not smaller.Having both R2 Backspace and Delete is very nice to the community. Thanks for listening.
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)I like the first better and, as a 7u spacebar user, I'd like to have that mask icon on two R4 caps too, as winkeys.
(Attachment Link)
Post by: beninski on Fri, 26 May 2017, 07:20:37
Concerning the novelties, I think I would prefer the second version. It seems to be more consistent with the colour theme (only three colours).
Post by: neralo on Tue, 30 May 2017, 02:25:53
Love the look of the novelties. Personally I'd go with Version 3, so that there's more hints of Orange than just the backspace, though I can also understand the appeal of having version 2 instead, for the consistency, especially for people who would would to use the novelties but without using the orange backspace.
Looking forward to more progress, and getting my wallet ready
Post by: Applet on Tue, 30 May 2017, 02:42:20
I also think two R4 1U of the mask icon would be great as winkeys :)I am considering having Back Space, but the font will be smaller.Is that possible with GMK?Here is the design with the new 1u Backspace, the Backspace legends are not smaller.Having both R2 Backspace and Delete is very nice to the community. Thanks for listening.
(Attachment Link)(Attachment Link)I like the first better and, as a 7u spacebar user, I'd like to have that mask icon on two R4 caps too, as winkeys.
(Attachment Link)
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 01 June 2017, 11:21:09
The render picture looks great!
Concerning the novelties, I think I would prefer the second version. It seems to be more consistent with the colour theme (only three colours).
Thank you for the feedback! The novelties are currently being developed and improve so that they fall within the guidelines provided by GMK.
I'm really glad to see this going forward, I remember spotting this thread in March, and being instantly interested simply for the MF Doom link. The Novelties are great, and the Grey on Black is something I haven't really seen on a GMK set, and I can't help myself with "stealth" looking sets.
Love the look of the novelties. Personally I'd go with Version 3, so that there's more hints of Orange than just the backspace, though I can also understand the appeal of having version 2 instead, for the consistency, especially for people who would would to use the novelties but without using the orange backspace.
Looking forward to more progress, and getting my wallet ready
Thank you for the support and feedback. Hopefully this will be going live before the end of this month.
I also think two R4 1U of the mask icon would be great as winkeys :)I am considering having Back Space, but the font will be smaller.Is that possible with GMK?Here is the design with the new 1u Backspace, the Backspace legends are not smaller.Having both R2 Backspace and Delete is very nice to the community. Thanks for listening.
(Attachment Link)(Attachment Link)I like the first better and, as a 7u spacebar user, I'd like to have that mask icon on two R4 caps too, as winkeys.
(Attachment Link)
I would only like to there to be a DOOM mask on one key in this keycap set, as there is only one MF DOOM. Apologies.
What else would you be interested in seeing on the winkeys?
Post by: xondat on Thu, 01 June 2017, 22:16:26
Great compatibility although I have a couple of queries. Would the following keys make an appearance, or is the kit finalized? I've put it in most to least important (to me).
- Scooped F, J
- Stepped Control
- 1.25u R4 Menu
- 6u Spacebar
Really looking forward to this and hoping I can get on board.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 01 June 2017, 22:29:23
God damn. This has my attention, bloody fantastic.
Great compatibility although I have a couple of queries. Would the following keys make an appearance, or is the kit finalized? I've put it in most to least important (to me).
- Scooped F, J
- Stepped Control
- 1.25u R4 Menu
- 6u Spacebar
Really looking forward to this and hoping I can get on board.
x1 vote for scooped F, J though not mandatory
Edit: Out of curiosity, which layout does the R4 (shift row?) End key come into play?
Post by: Berzerker on Thu, 01 June 2017, 23:07:15
Post by: Skull_Angel on Fri, 02 June 2017, 02:09:41
God damn. This has my attention, bloody fantastic.Edit: Out of curiosity, which layout does the R4 (shift row?) End key come into play?
Great compatibility although I have a couple of queries. Would the following keys make an appearance, or is the kit finalized? I've put it in most to least important (to me).
- Scooped F, J
- Stepped Control
- 1.25u R4 Menu
- 6u Spacebar
Really looking forward to this and hoping I can get on board.
75% ;D
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 02 June 2017, 02:46:57
Scooped F, JMissed that, I hope they are added.
Post by: doom2 on Fri, 02 June 2017, 11:28:37
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Fri, 02 June 2017, 12:05:02
God damn. This has my attention, bloody fantastic.
Great compatibility although I have a couple of queries. Would the following keys make an appearance, or is the kit finalized? I've put it in most to least important (to me).
- Scooped F, J
- Stepped Control
- 1.25u R4 Menu
- 6u Spacebar
Really looking forward to this and hoping I can get on board.
Scooped F, JMissed that, I hope they are added.
I am considering adding scooped F and J keys, although I wasn't sure if there was much demand for them.
I will not be adding a stepped control, or a 1.25u menu key. Which layout requires a 6u Spacebar?
Looks like the render in the OP has 2 regular caps locks (one single-line vs one multi-line printed). I assume the one on the bottom is supposed to be stepped?
Yes, the second one is meant to be stepped. Thank you for pointing out this mistake.
Hi a friend pointed me here, said I should check the keyset named after me. Looks great!
Thank you for the support!
Post by: Atredl on Fri, 02 June 2017, 12:12:56
Scooped F, JMissed that, I hope they are added.
I am considering adding scooped F and J keys, although I wasn't sure if there was much demand for them.
I will not be adding a stepped control, or a 1.25u menu key. Which layout requires a 6u Spacebar?
Im also for scooped F/J.
A lot of custom boards allow the use of a 6u space bar. Many duck boards allow this so that you can mimic Topre layouts. I'm personally in favor of having a 6u space bar included with the set.
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 02 June 2017, 12:29:25
Which layout requires a 6u Spacebar?A few but, probably, the modern G80-1800 (https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-1800) is the most popular.
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 02 June 2017, 14:46:21
God damn. This has my attention, bloody fantastic.
Great compatibility although I have a couple of queries. Would the following keys make an appearance, or is the kit finalized? I've put it in most to least important (to me).
- Scooped F, J
- Stepped Control
- 1.25u R4 Menu
- 6u Spacebar
Scooped homing keys are a must, everything else I am indifferent about (6u spacebar would be neat tho)
Also, 6u spacebar could be used on an MX-HHKB I guess, if you want it to be a true HHKB layout. Pretty much every custom MX-HHKB uses a 7u spacebar tho so idk...
Really looking forward to this and hoping I can get on board.
Post by: ricyuyc on Fri, 02 June 2017, 18:56:57
(http://i.imgur.com/ZjPTRqhh.jpg)Which layout requires a 6u Spacebar?A few but, probably, the modern G80-1800 (https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-1800) is the most popular.
G80-1865, G80-1808, I also built a infinity hacker 60% that used with 6u spacebar.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Fri, 09 June 2017, 23:19:10
Scooped F, JMissed that, I hope they are added.
I am considering adding scooped F and J keys, although I wasn't sure if there was much demand for them.
I will not be adding a stepped control, or a 1.25u menu key. Which layout requires a 6u Spacebar?
Im also for scooped F/J.
A lot of custom boards allow the use of a 6u space bar. Many duck boards allow this so that you can mimic Topre layouts. I'm personally in favor of having a 6u space bar included with the set.
God damn. This has my attention, bloody fantastic.
Great compatibility although I have a couple of queries. Would the following keys make an appearance, or is the kit finalized? I've put it in most to least important (to me).
- Scooped F, J
- Stepped Control
- 1.25u R4 Menu
- 6u Spacebar
Scooped homing keys are a must, everything else I am indifferent about (6u spacebar would be neat tho)
Also, 6u spacebar could be used on an MX-HHKB I guess, if you want it to be a true HHKB layout. Pretty much every custom MX-HHKB uses a 7u spacebar tho so idk...
Really looking forward to this and hoping I can get on board.
God damn. This has my attention, bloody fantastic.
Great compatibility although I have a couple of queries. Would the following keys make an appearance, or is the kit finalized? I've put it in most to least important (to me).
- Scooped F, J
- Stepped Control
- 1.25u R4 Menu
- 6u Spacebar
Scooped homing keys are a must, everything else I am indifferent about (6u spacebar would be neat tho)
Also, 6u spacebar could be used on an MX-HHKB I guess, if you want it to be a true HHKB layout. Pretty much every custom MX-HHKB uses a 7u spacebar tho so idk...
Really looking forward to this and hoping I can get on board.
Thank you for all of your feedback.
I will add the 6u Spacebar and the scooped F and J keys.
I will submit the extra keys to GMK and I will update the price as soon as possible.
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 16 June 2017, 09:48:51
Post by: Applet on Fri, 16 June 2017, 10:00:11
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Fri, 16 June 2017, 11:49:49
More
(http://i.imgur.com/AY9tani.jpg)
^ from yuri
Post by: xantiema on Fri, 16 June 2017, 12:14:05
Post by: sinetwo on Tue, 20 June 2017, 17:52:50
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Post by: xantiema on Tue, 20 June 2017, 18:22:00
how about a full grey on black set? ;D
This would probably look much better than the current iteration :p
Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 22 June 2017, 02:25:23
how about a full grey on black set? ;D
This would probably look much better than the current iteration :p
I would have to agree methinks. I like the colors, but there just isn't enough contrast.
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Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 22 June 2017, 02:44:47
how about a full grey on black set? ;D
This would probably look much better than the current iteration :p
I would have to agree methinks. I like the colors, but there just isn't enough contrast.
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Post by: amnesia0287 on Thu, 22 June 2017, 02:47:39
Ohh. I was thinks my black on grey. It's late. Lolhow about a full grey on black set? ;D
This would probably look much better than the current iteration :p
I would have to agree methinks. I like the colors, but there just isn't enough contrast.
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Post by: xantiema on Thu, 22 June 2017, 10:10:18
We are obviously referring to the reversed setuphow about a full grey on black set? ;D
This would probably look much better than the current iteration :p
I would have to agree methinks. I like the colors, but there just isn't enough contrast.
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Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 22 June 2017, 11:52:46
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Fri, 23 June 2017, 23:06:54
Do you gentlemen have news for us?
need stepped caps and spacebar kitMoreShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/AY9tani.jpg)
^ from yuri
This isn't all too shabby :)
Apologies for the lack of updates.
This is the current layout and design:
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These are the current novelty key designs that will be included with the base set:
[attachimg=2]
There will be no spacebar kit, I don't think it will reach MOQ. There is a stepped CAPS LOCK key.
The novelties will be included with the base kit, as the won't reach MOQ as a separate set.
I have submitted all of this information to GMK, and I am currently waiting to receive a new quote.
Thank you for the feedback, I am glad so many are interested in the keycap set. Hopefully the group buy for this set will be mid/late-July.
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.
Post by: TalkingTree on Sat, 24 June 2017, 13:41:42
Post by: donjoan666 on Sat, 24 June 2017, 19:20:12
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Thu, 29 June 2017, 02:20:17
Any chance of having LED keycaps for 3 locks? Thanks!
+1
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 05 July 2017, 09:19:10
[attachimg=1]
I am considering adding a R1 1u DOOM mask novelty key, but besides that I think that this is going to be the final base kit.
A new price is coming soon. Please tell me if you notice any issues.
Thanks.
Post by: bkw1209 on Wed, 05 July 2017, 09:46:40
Post by: Vigrith on Wed, 05 July 2017, 09:55:37
This is the new base kit:
(Attachment Link)
I am considering adding a R1 1u DOOM mask novelty key, but besides that I think that this is going to be the final base kit.
A new price is coming soon. Please tell me if you notice any issues.
Thanks.
Looks great! I'm glad to see this moving along, still working on the novelties I assume? Those are the main selling point for me personally because I already have the Exent GMK set coming which is also grey on black.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 05 July 2017, 10:16:35
I have removed the 4 additional R4 blanks and replaced the blank WinKeys with Super.
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Does this produce any compatibility issues? I don't think any layouts are affected, but please let me know if any are.
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 05 July 2017, 11:07:06
In an effort to streamline the set, most sets only include 1 R2 1.5u delete/backspace. I think most people use it as backspace so it would make sense to have that legend. Since the HHKB has delete, I'm personally fine with either one. I'm sure other HHKB-layout users could chime in.
Post by: kmba on Wed, 05 July 2017, 11:46:09
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Wed, 05 July 2017, 11:58:08
In an effort to streamline the set, most sets only include 1 R2 1.5u delete/backspace. I think most people use it as backspace so it would make sense to have that legend. Since the HHKB has delete, I'm personally fine with either one.
This. I know the reason there is both is probably because people make posts about never buying the set if there isn't a 1.5u Delete vs. a 1.5u Backspace or vice versa but it seems like having both doesn't make much sense. Personally, I'm fine with either.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 05 July 2017, 12:22:13
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Wed, 05 July 2017, 12:24:16
Post by: Atredl on Wed, 05 July 2017, 12:29:58
i like the little backspace/delete icon, but that might open a whole nother can of worms...I like it too, but since this is a text only mod set..
Post by: xondat on Wed, 05 July 2017, 13:00:34
Post by: TalkingTree on Wed, 05 July 2017, 14:28:20
I am considering adding a R1 1u DOOM mask novelty key.Please do.
It doesn't make any compatibility issues but I think that "code" is a better choice instead of "super".Agreed.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 05 July 2017, 15:22:15
It doesn't make any compatibility issues but I think that "code" is a better choice instead of "super". Super usually refers to being a windows key or the equivalent on other OS. Where Code can mean anything.
In an effort to streamline the set, most sets only include 1 R2 1.5u delete/backspace. I think most people use it as backspace so it would make sense to have that legend. Since the HHKB has delete, I'm personally fine with either one. I'm sure other HHKB-layout users could chime in.
Throughout this IC many have requested code, and so I will replace super with code.
+1 on Code over Super. You'll need 2 1.0s and 2 1.5u's right?\
For which legends?
I just became aware of this today. The set looks pretty cool, that, depending on pricing, could be a great last of the year buy. The inclusion of both delete and backspace makes this a nice set to have and the full only text modifiers are also a very good addition to the stock of pretty much anyone, due to its low contrast, it may go very well with many OG and GMK sets. I'd like to see the legends to be a bit more contrasting if possible. Some renders could pull a bit more interest and please make the 6u space bar off centered, considering that you are targeting to cover the 18xx keyboards.
Does this mean that I have to include 2x6u spacebars? One centred, and one off centred?
Post by: xondat on Wed, 05 July 2017, 15:25:07
+1 on Code over Super. You'll need 2 1.0s and 2 1.5u's right?\
For which legends?
Windows keys. Bottom row would be Ctrl Code Alt Spacebar Alt Code Ctrl, instead of blanks, for example.
Post by: Applet on Wed, 05 July 2017, 15:49:23
Did we entirely skip the "ALL CAPS" keycap? (I LOVE this one! (http://i.imgur.com/U6wlg32.jpg)). This could provide an accented key for us HHKB-layout users?
This set is really comming together nicely :D
Edit: It pains me, but the off-center 6u space makes more sense
Post by: x86ect on Wed, 05 July 2017, 15:59:16
+1 on Code over Super. You'll need 2 1.0s and 2 1.5u's right?\
Are they 1.5u or 1.25u (my boards seem to be 1.25)?
Does this mean that I have to include 2x6u spacebars? One centred, and one off centred?
I'm not sure if GMK does this, but I have a single space bar that has both centered and off centered mounts
Post by: ideus on Wed, 05 July 2017, 17:05:30
It doesn't make any compatibility issues but I think that "code" is a better choice instead of "super". Super usually refers to being a windows key or the equivalent on other OS. Where Code can mean anything.
In an effort to streamline the set, most sets only include 1 R2 1.5u delete/backspace. I think most people use it as backspace so it would make sense to have that legend. Since the HHKB has delete, I'm personally fine with either one. I'm sure other HHKB-layout users could chime in.
Throughout this IC many have requested code, and so I will replace super with code.+1 on Code over Super. You'll need 2 1.0s and 2 1.5u's right?\
For which legends?I just became aware of this today. The set looks pretty cool, that, depending on pricing, could be a great last of the year buy. The inclusion of both delete and backspace makes this a nice set to have and the full only text modifiers are also a very good addition to the stock of pretty much anyone, due to its low contrast, it may go very well with many OG and GMK sets. I'd like to see the legends to be a bit more contrasting if possible. Some renders could pull a bit more interest and please make the 6u space bar off centered, considering that you are targeting to cover the 18xx keyboards.
Does this mean that I have to include 2x6u spacebars? One centred, and one off centred?
It is known that GMK has a new mold with centered stem for the 6u space bar. It is not known if the new mold support both stem positions, which is doubtful, due to interferences. If you want to support both, you should ask GMK for details on the two space bar versions. What seems likely with the current information is that you may have to order both if you want to support both options. However, you should be aware the 18xx keyboards feature the standard off centered 6u space bar, not the new centered.
If you want to cover both options, you should ask GMK if the 6u space bar can have both stems, which is doubtful, because of interference with the switch. What is it for sure is that both molds for 6u space bars are now available from GMK, one with off centered stem, that is the standard one, as well as the new with centered stem.
Post by: ideus on Wed, 05 July 2017, 17:06:25
+1 on Code over Super. You'll need 2 1.0s and 2 1.5u's right?\
Are they 1.5u or 1.25u (my boards seem to be 1.25)?Does this mean that I have to include 2x6u spacebars? One centred, and one off centred?
I'm not sure if GMK does this, but I have a single space bar that has both centered and off centered mounts
Are you sure that is the new 6u space bar mold from GMK? Check the image below, the space bar with four stems is the 6.25u; while the 6u has only one off centered stem for the switch besides the stabs ones. As far as I know, Nautilus set will be the first to include the new 6u space bar with centered stem.
(http://i.imgur.com/9NHM3iB.jpg)
Post by: cumwagondeluxe on Wed, 05 July 2017, 18:29:57
It doesn't make any compatibility issues but I think that "code" is a better choice instead of "super". Super usually refers to being a windows key or the equivalent on other OS. Where Code can mean anything...
Are you even a DOOM fan? Super makes way more sense.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 05 July 2017, 18:51:16
It doesn't make any compatibility issues but I think that "code" is a better choice instead of "super". Super usually refers to being a windows key or the equivalent on other OS. Where Code can mean anything...
Are you even a DOOM fan? Super makes way more sense.
I prefer super but it seems that the vast majority prefer code. Although I said I have agreed to code, I am still deciding between the two.
Post by: Applet on Thu, 06 July 2017, 02:05:05
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 06 July 2017, 23:13:25
[attachimg=1]
The reason there are 2 x 6u Spacebars is because one features a centred stem and one will feature a off-centred stem. I have emailed GMK and asked whether they can produce a 6u spacebar with both stems.
If I had to remove one 6u spacebar, which is the least popular?
These are the novelties I will submit to GMK:
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If you would like to provide any feedback, please do so now.
Post by: Applet on Fri, 07 July 2017, 02:26:34
Thanks for adding the 1u mask and all-caps novelties!
The off-center 6u spacebar should be far more common. Personally I want the center-stem to be able to use the set on a modded HHKB (the actual board, not layout), a center stem can be used on some customs. To my understanding, there are no off the shelf board with a center stem 6u space, right? Might be used on some gamer-style boards...
I will still join the buy without the center-stem 6u space :)
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Fri, 07 July 2017, 03:38:21
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Post by: Vigrith on Fri, 07 July 2017, 05:21:26
Post by: Applet on Fri, 07 July 2017, 06:35:46
Post by: ideus on Fri, 07 July 2017, 07:50:22
The classic Cherry G80-1800 layout features the 6u off-centered stem space bar. Some contemporary boards like the Raptor Gaming K1 shares the same layout. The 6u space bar should be off centered if you support that layout. You can check the thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35672.msg2443165#msg2443165) dedicated to these keyboards.
(http://i.imgur.com/2jWyAAb.jpg)
The centered stem space bar is required for some customs and for the HHKB when it is customized with MX sliders, I do not know any commercially available keyboard that takes it. Considering these facts the demand is relatively low for both types of 6u space bars; but, it should be far lower for the centered stem version. If you decided to drop one version I'd kept the off centered one, because it covers the main demand for that space bar size to fit on 1800 keyboards.
(http://i.imgur.com/4U8OcAC.jpg)
On your set I really like the inclusion of two versions of the R2 1.5 backspace / delete, also the accented 2u backspace and the text only modifiers. If you include both space bars it would be very hard for me to let it to pass, even when I am already over my original keyboard's budget for this year. I suggest you to include an accented tab key to go along with the accented backspace.
(http://i.imgur.com/T1T8XS6.jpg)
Post by: SBJ on Fri, 07 July 2017, 07:57:36
I'll be following this for sure! :thumb:
Post by: xondat on Fri, 07 July 2017, 08:15:34
+1 on Code over Super. You'll need 2 1.0s and 2 1.5u's right?\
Are they 1.5u or 1.25u (my boards seem to be 1.25)?
:-[ Meant 1.25u!
Only thing missing is a 2u left shift. These seem to be coming more common these days.
Which boards? Not challenging it in any way, more interested as I try and keep an up to date layout of all "necessary" keys.
Loving the set, it looks great. Don't care for 6u personally.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Sun, 09 July 2017, 14:03:01
Only thing missing is a 2u left shift. These seem to be coming more common these days.
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I don't think I will add a 2u Shift to the base set.
I'd love to see a few more novelties like the ones shown in the first page, if I understand your latest post correctly and you're only going to be submitting just the 4 of them (three of them being the same DOOM mask) it may not warrant them having their own kit which would be a shame. I think there's so much potential for cool ones to go with this particular theme.
Yeah, the novelties are and can be great with this theme. Maybe add the grey "Mm... food" enter-key?
If the price of the base kit is too high, I will consider removing the novelty keys and making them their own kit. If I do that I can include more novelty keys, however the only reason why I am hesitant to do that is because I am not sure a novelty kit will reach the required MOQ of 100. I would hate to see the novelty kit fail to reach MOQ and there be no novelty keys at all. I would rather present fewer novelties with a higher chance of getting them produced, rather than presenting lots to the community but the chance of the them not being produced being a lot higher.
I'd definitely be in for the base set. Maybe even the novelties.
I'll be following this for sure! :thumb:
Thank you for the support! :)
I will post renders as soon as they are ready.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed feedback to this keycap set so far, I really appreciate it.
Post by: Applet on Mon, 10 July 2017, 04:35:32
If the price of the base kit is too high, I will consider removing the novelty keys and making them their own kit. If I do that I can include more novelty keys, however the only reason why I am hesitant to do that is because I am not sure a novelty kit will reach the required MOQ of 100. I would hate to see the novelty kit fail to reach MOQ and there be no novelty keys at all. I would rather present fewer novelties with a higher chance of getting them produced, rather than presenting lots to the community but the chance of the them not being produced being a lot higher.Yes, I think it is smart to try and keep the novelties in the base kit to make sure we reach MOQ. I´m happy with the current novelties. ^-^
Post by: Lazylewis on Mon, 10 July 2017, 06:59:30
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 10 July 2017, 07:14:08
Post by: Rafa_n on Mon, 10 July 2017, 08:28:24
Perhaps it's late to ask, but will you consider offering a NorDe (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85609.0;topicseen) kit?
Nautilus has 1k base set orders and 50 Norde kits, please stop asking for norde kits
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 10 July 2017, 08:36:55
Nautilus has 1k base set orders and 50 Norde kits, please stop asking for norde kitsI'm sure it wasn't your intention to sound rude, and I'm sure a NorDe kit in the GB won't annoy you either. Since the GB handler is in the UK it might attract more european customers, hence the reason for a NorDe kit.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 10 July 2017, 09:30:22
Perhaps it's late to ask, but will you consider offering a NorDe (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85609.0;topicseen) kit?
Nautilus has 1k base set orders and 50 Norde kits, please stop asking for norde kits
Norde kit's potential users tend to hesitate to join MD drops due to high taxes and shipping costs, therefore an MD drop demand for a Norde kit is not representative of the actual need for it. An Euro-based GB has larger chances to pull demand for a Norde kit than an MD drop has.
Post by: Rafa_n on Mon, 10 July 2017, 14:03:17
Perhaps it's late to ask, but will you consider offering a NorDe (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85609.0;topicseen) kit?
Nautilus has 1k base set orders and 50 Norde kits, please stop asking for norde kits
Norde kit's potential users tend to hesitate to join MD drops due to high taxes and shipping costs, therefore an MD drop demand for a Norde kit is not representative of the actual need for it. An Euro-based GB has larger chances to pull demand for a Norde kit than an MD drop has.
Make a Norde kit for this and see how that theory works out.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 11 July 2017, 11:57:10
- 1 x R1 1u DOOM Mask (Black - CR BASE, N9 Icon)
- 1 x R1 2u MADVILLAIN key (Orange - V2 BASE, N9 Legend)
- 1 x R3 1.75u ALL CAPS key (Black CR BASE, Orange - V2 Legend)
- 1 x R3 2.25 MM..FOOD key (Black CR BASE, Orange - V2 Legend)
- 2 x R4 1.25 DOOM graffiti keys (Black CR BASE, Orange - V2 Legend)
They will be included with the base kit, and there will not be an extra novelty kit. This will most likely drive the price of the base kit up, however it will ensure that novelties get produced if this set is successful.
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 11 July 2017, 12:07:56
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 11 July 2017, 12:10:37
When would the set be scheduled for production?
I think I will start the group buy 31st July, and run it for 3 weeks. Assuming the production time is 14 weeks, I think customers will receive this in December hopefully.
Post by: xondat on Tue, 11 July 2017, 12:14:13
When would the set be scheduled for production?
I think I will start the group buy 31st July, and run it for 3 weeks. Assuming the production time is 14 weeks, I think customers will receive this in December hopefully.
Will make a brilliant Christmas present :D
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 11 July 2017, 12:14:33
I think I will start the group buy 31st July, and run it for 3 weeks. Assuming the production time is 14 weeks, I think customers will receive this in December hopefully.Honest question: isn't it risky to run a GB in the month of August? Will it get enough visibility to people leaving for the summer holidays?
Post by: ideus on Tue, 11 July 2017, 12:25:41
I think I will start the group buy 31st July, and run it for 3 weeks. Assuming the production time is 14 weeks, I think customers will receive this in December hopefully.Honest question: isn't it risky to run a GB in the month of August? Will it get enough visibility to people leaving for the summer holidays?
What kind of vacation is that with no browsing GH twice a day?
Post by: TalkingTree on Tue, 11 July 2017, 12:37:35
What kind of vacation is that with no browsing GH twice a day?Unbeatable argument, I take my question back.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Fri, 14 July 2017, 08:26:09
[attachimg=1]
These are the final designs for the novelties:
[attachimg=3]
[attachimg=2]
I have submitted this to GMK, and I am waiting to receive a quote.
Post by: Vypr on Fri, 14 July 2017, 14:49:36
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Post by: Applet on Mon, 17 July 2017, 08:45:53
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Fri, 21 July 2017, 09:39:53
Post by: cynviloq on Fri, 21 July 2017, 10:05:52
I have added the final pricing for this keycap set, please read the original post.
What MOQ is that pricing for? $150 for a GMK Group Buy Base Kit that's mostly CR on N9 will be a tough sell for the US, so hopefully enough EU get in on this to make it happen... just for reference Honeywell had 148 keys and the Group Buy price was $135.
In the latest mockup, is that supposed to be a stepped Caps Lock or are you choosing to include a double line Caps Lock? In either case I think you should consider a blank stepped or window stepped if you must include a stepped.
Post by: Auk on Fri, 21 July 2017, 10:19:36
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 21 July 2017, 10:22:25
just for reference Honeywell had 148 keys and the Group Buy price was $135.Caps Unlocked is registered in the UK and therefore subject to the german VAT (19%). Also, being them a business, you'd need to consider some markup as well.
I have added the final pricing for this keycap set, please read the original post.Ready to place my order.
Post by: r5d on Fri, 21 July 2017, 11:19:42
Post by: ideus on Fri, 21 July 2017, 11:38:34
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Fri, 21 July 2017, 11:45:46
For people not based in EU the final cost for the set would be expensive considering the price plus shipping cost. Hope it reaches MoQ though, it is a nice set.
I will try to get a proxy for customers in North America.
Post by: Applet on Fri, 21 July 2017, 12:09:11
Post by: IAmPyhrra on Fri, 21 July 2017, 12:11:47
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 21 July 2017, 14:35:44
Post by: duynguyenle on Fri, 21 July 2017, 17:18:27
Sorry if I missed this some where, but where will this GB be held?
Capsunlocked is an UK vendor
Post by: r5d on Mon, 24 July 2017, 06:02:38
Post by: Atredl on Mon, 24 July 2017, 13:14:26
The only thing that could improve this set would be icon legends.. but too late I guess. And it's not like I won't buy because it doesn't have them ;)
Please no.
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 24 July 2017, 13:32:22
+1.The only thing that could improve this set would be icon legends.. but too late I guess. And it's not like I won't buy because it doesn't have them ;)
Please no.
Post by: ideus on Mon, 24 July 2017, 20:06:04
+1.The only thing that could improve this set would be icon legends.. but too late I guess. And it's not like I won't buy because it doesn't have them ;)
Please no.
Old and boring classic legends and icon modifiers work for me pretty well, though.
Post by: duynguyenle on Mon, 24 July 2017, 20:55:05
+1.The only thing that could improve this set would be icon legends.. but too late I guess. And it's not like I won't buy because it doesn't have them ;)
Please no.
Old and boring classic legends and icon modifiers work for me pretty well, though.
I prefer Icon Mods as well, but it's not the end of the world if it wasn't offered
Post by: Seunghwi Nam on Mon, 24 July 2017, 23:33:22
Post by: yokken on Tue, 25 July 2017, 09:14:01
Post by: r5d on Mon, 31 July 2017, 03:01:14
H Y P E
Post by: MacGruber117 on Tue, 01 August 2017, 06:48:30
HOE
CAKES
Post by: omegafivethreefive on Tue, 01 August 2017, 06:50:37
Post by: Applet on Wed, 09 August 2017, 07:21:48
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 10 August 2017, 11:47:32
Yeah, sorry to say but it is too costly for me, especially for just black on black. At $100 I'd be in, but at $150 it's too much. Good luck with the GB though!!
I am trying to get a proxy for customers in North America. This will reduce the cost.
Starting today (maybe)? ;D
H Y P E
Any update on when this will run? :D
This set has been delayed due to other projects, and due to the GMK Mondrian group buy being extended. I am also trying to get a NA proxy.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 10 August 2017, 11:50:23
This is the render on the M65-A. This render does not include any novelty keys, as they are currently being modified to meet GMK's guidelines.
Post by: TalkingTree on Thu, 10 August 2017, 14:17:36
(Attachment Link)That's beautiful, I can't wait to see this set on my keyboard.
This is the render on the M65-A. This render does not include any novelty keys, as they are currently being modified to meet GMK's guidelines.
Post by: DreLLin on Fri, 11 August 2017, 04:47:16
+1.The only thing that could improve this set would be icon legends.. but too late I guess. And it's not like I won't buy because it doesn't have them ;)
Please no.
Old and boring classic legends and icon modifiers work for me pretty well, though.
I prefer Icon Mods as well, but it's not the end of the world if it wasn't offered
Would also really love to see Icon Mods, but will be in anyway. Looks great, especially that M65-A rendering.
Post by: Applet on Mon, 14 August 2017, 14:32:01
This set has been delayed due to other projects, and due to the GMK Mondrian group buy being extended. I am also trying to get a NA proxy.Thanks for the update :D Good to know it is still on track, albeit delayed
Post by: Cotay on Mon, 14 August 2017, 21:39:54
Yeah, sorry to say but it is too costly for me, especially for just black on black. At $100 I'd be in, but at $150 it's too much. Good luck with the GB though!!
I am trying to get a proxy for customers in North America. This will reduce the cost.Starting today (maybe)? ;D
H Y P EAny update on when this will run? :D
This set has been delayed due to other projects, and due to the GMK Mondrian group buy being extended. I am also trying to get a NA proxy.
Excellent. I'll gladly wait for a North American proxy.
Post by: My_Thoughts on Thu, 24 August 2017, 06:09:46
Post by: pon10 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 03:19:40
Post by: Oblotzky on Fri, 25 August 2017, 04:07:28
I don't understand why a "Nordic kit" not have been added to this IC/GB when its from the EU :confused: :(
Nautilus ran on Massdrop, sold 1900 base kits, and 82 Norde kits. Now try and imagine how many Norde kits this set will sell. There is no point in offering one if you can bet your years salary that it won't hit MOQ.
Post by: pon10 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 04:34:29
I don't understand why a "Nordic kit" not have been added to this IC/GB when its from the EU :confused: :(
Nautilus ran on Massdrop, sold 1900 base kits, and 82 Norde kits. Now try and imagine how many Norde kits this set will sell. There is no point in offering one if you can bet your years salary that it won't hit MOQ.
Yeah i know! people hate the continues asking for norde kits. The never ending MOQ horror stories etc..
As @ideus also says it a couple of pages back.
EU buyers from MD suffer hard on import taxes. you have to drop around 300USD or more when buying sets from MD in EU. GB runners from the EU should try to start to add Wodan`s nordic implementations in the overall set, lowering the cost of the nordic kit keys in the base set.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85609.0
In a UK gb it would be great and price isn't to high for the extra keys..
it will also take some time getting keebpeeps in the EU attention. They have to learn that there is light ahead and the keysets are available without the high import tax from the US.
Cut the ANSI keys out of this set and make that as a add-on... and you can have buyers from:
[attachimg=1]
From Wodans thread
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85609.0
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 25 August 2017, 05:07:47
There is no point in offering one if you can bet your years salary that it won't hit MOQ.There is no harm either in offering something that won't cost any money if the MOQ isn't hit. It should always have a chance.
In a UK gb it would be great and price isn't to high for the extra keys..Although there's Germany's VAT to pay.
it will also take some time getting keebpeeps in the EU attention. They have to learn that there is light ahead and the keysets are available without the high import tax from the US.
Unfortunately there weren't many Europe based group buys with NorDe kits. Actually, the only one that comes into my mind is Krakob's (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=88361.0) which didn't go well, supposedly, because of the colour scheme.
Post by: FerretBuster on Fri, 25 August 2017, 14:19:31
Post by: Atredl on Fri, 25 August 2017, 14:48:09
Cut the ANSI keys out of this set and make that as a add-on...That sounds like a good way to alienate ANSI buyers.
I'm all for Wodan's suggestion of adding the international keys and making an even better base kit. Separating the ANSI keys into a separate kit sounds like a step backwards.
Post by: pon10 on Fri, 25 August 2017, 15:18:33
Cut the ANSI keys out of this set and make that as a add-on...That sounds like a good way to alienate ANSI buyers.
I'm all for Wodan's suggestion of adding the international keys and making an even better base kit. Separating the ANSI keys into a separate kit sounds like a step backwards.
It would be cool with a everything "world wide" international based set. :p it's just when it's a UK based GB that seems at aiming ANSI as it 1st priority and the reason the Nordic set is cut out of the base set to keep the cost down etc. Wish thinking was just a reverse version with ISO uk as first priority with Wodan's minimum kit added to the base set adding only the 16,50 € more to a base set with a moq at 150 as the quote from gmk in the thread.
Its a awesome clean set and the work behind bringing to the people :thumb: I am just a tiny sad that finally a EU gb for a set that so clean and classic and ships from the UK I will not be able to join bc of 16,50€, seems a step backwards :rolleyes:
Edit: typo
Post by: Atredl on Fri, 25 August 2017, 16:35:23
I get where you're coming from but both ANSI and UK ISO are fully covered in the base kit so it's not as if the UK based GB is ignoring the UK.Cut the ANSI keys out of this set and make that as a add-on...That sounds like a good way to alienate ANSI buyers.
I'm all for Wodan's suggestion of adding the international keys and making an even better base kit. Separating the ANSI keys into a separate kit sounds like a step backwards.
It would be cool with a everything "world wide" international based set. :p it's just when it's a UK based GB thats seems at aiming ANSI as it 1st priority and the reason the Nordic set is cut out of the base set to keep the cost down etc. Wish thinking was just a reverse version with ISO uk as first priority with Wodan's minimum kit added to the base set adding only the 16,50 € more to a base set with a moq at 150 as the quote from gmk in the thread.
Its a awesome clean set and the work behind bringing to the people :thumb: I am just a tiny sad that finally a EU gb for a set that so clean and classic and ships from the UK I will not be able to join bc of 16,50€ :(
Yeah ANSI is usually the focus but that's because the US has half the population of all of Europe. That's a huge amount of people that all use the exact same alphas. That's not even counting the Asian market, many of whom also buy ANSI alphas. Putting ANSI on the side puts a GB on the back foot from the start and in jeopardy of not being made. That's why I think adding Wodan's keys are the best solution. You add the most important international keys to the base set so that European countries keys are included and MOQ is met.
This is getting a little bit off topic though so I'll probably make future comments in the Wodan thread.
Post by: pon10 on Sat, 26 August 2017, 01:10:51
I get where you're coming from but both ANSI and UK ISO are fully covered in the base kit so it's not as if the UK based GB is ignoring the UK.Cut the ANSI keys out of this set and make that as a add-on...That sounds like a good way to alienate ANSI buyers.
I'm all for Wodan's suggestion of adding the international keys and making an even better base kit. Separating the ANSI keys into a separate kit sounds like a step backwards.
It would be cool with a everything "world wide" international based set. :p it's just when it's a UK based GB thats seems at aiming ANSI as it 1st priority and the reason the Nordic set is cut out of the base set to keep the cost down etc. Wish thinking was just a reverse version with ISO uk as first priority with Wodan's minimum kit added to the base set adding only the 16,50 € more to a base set with a moq at 150 as the quote from gmk in the thread.
Its a awesome clean set and the work behind bringing to the people :thumb: I am just a tiny sad that finally a EU gb for a set that so clean and classic and ships from the UK I will not be able to join bc of 16,50€ :(
Yeah ANSI is usually the focus but that's because the US has half the population of all of Europe. That's a huge amount of people that all use the exact same alphas. That's not even counting the Asian market, many of whom also buy ANSI alphas. Putting ANSI on the side puts a GB on the back foot from the start and in jeopardy of not being made. That's why I think adding Wodan's keys are the best solution. You add the most important international keys to the base set so that European countries keys are included and MOQ is met.
This is getting a little bit off topic though so I'll probably make future comments in the Wodan thread.
Point is just adding the Nordic kit to the base set and more Europeans would join. Not having to pay the 40-50 USD for the nordic add-on + import taxes in the EU when its shipped from the US. There is a reason the statistics are not in the euro mechheads favor!! :) and it would just be cool if a UK gb organizer tried to reach his neighbors with decent price GB that's not gonna be heavily boomed in kit addons and import taxes. :)
Post by: Atredl on Sat, 26 August 2017, 02:19:51
Point is just adding the Nordic kit to the base set and more Europeans would join.This is the exact point I'm making. :)) I just didn't like your separate ANSI kit suggestion lol
Post by: pon10 on Sat, 26 August 2017, 02:51:26
Point is just adding the Nordic kit to the base set and more Europeans would join.This is the exact point I'm making. :)) I just didn't like your separate ANSI kit suggestion lol
:cool: Separating the ANSI keys to a kit would just make it cheaper for ISO users, hence since the only reason the nordic kit is not there in the based set is to please the US market bc they dont want to pay the extra 16.50€ .Vice versa would just be fair? and maybe instead of being pissed on people asking for a norde kit etc. US buyers could gain some insight in how it is as a EU buyer :eek:
Post by: ideus on Sat, 26 August 2017, 09:10:44
Post by: pon10 on Sun, 27 August 2017, 02:52:49
By experience, a single full set has better chances to reach MoQ than splitting it in alphas, mods and kits
Then lets put Wodan`s norde kit in the base set! ;D Yihaa
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 27 August 2017, 03:45:07
Then lets put Wodan`s norde kit in the base set!Wodan's point has always been to include NorDe keys in the base set, since the increased cost, for a 100+ keys keyset, was around €16.50.
Post by: pon10 on Sun, 27 August 2017, 04:02:28
Then lets put Wodan`s norde kit in the base set!Wodan's point has always been to include NorDe keys in the base set, since the increased cost, for a 100+ keys keyset, was around €16.50.
Yes exactly... :)) sounds very easy to implement :p
Post by: ideus on Sun, 27 August 2017, 07:24:36
By experience, a single full set has better chances to reach MoQ than splitting it in alphas, mods and kits
Then lets put Wodan`s norde kit in the base set! ;D Yihaa
Yeah, that is a possibility and we need a brave GB leader to give the idea a try and evaluate if that combination is economically feasible; personally, I think it would have a hard time to be sell, due to a thirty dollars premium over an standard ANSI set that I doubt the common GB participant may be willing to pay for keys that will be in her drawer forever.
Post by: pon10 on Sun, 27 August 2017, 09:21:23
By experience, a single full set has better chances to reach MoQ than splitting it in alphas, mods and kits
Then lets put Wodan`s norde kit in the base set! ;D Yihaa
Yeah, that is a possibility and we need a brave GB leader to give the idea a try and evaluate if that combination is economically feasible; personally, I think it would have a hard time to be sell, due to a thirty dollars premium over an standard ANSI set that I doubt the common GB participant may be willing to pay for keys that will be in her drawer forever.
I know it's one giant leap for mankind and the GB leader should off-course take the economically feasible considerations adding the Norde kit to the base set.
This is vender running this IC! Based in UK. Shipping to US is gonna be more then normal rates from standard CONUS shipping rates...
The set doesn't seem unique enough to attract the POP generation from the US to pay the extra shipping rates ( it is a guess ) but the interest this has gotten seems its unlikely to get popular in the US with chances of this set not hitting MOQ. Adding the Nordic kit will off-course increase the base set price which is gonna be a problem for some, but including the Norde kit will make the set available for the many parts of Europe making the set possible of reaching MOQ.
Hopefully if the set popularity grows and the word gets out that a norde kit have been added to the base set and the vender is from the UK.
Again the reason Norde kits have a tough time is that's only a few people that can afford the end of the day 2-400 USD sets from MD when importing to a EU country.
haha i dont mean this as hard criticism, just wondering :) For some A classic "WOB" set - is a endgame and wants to have correct legends on for the mother language of the KB :cool:
I wish this IC a good GB! I hope I can get in on this if it has a norde kit in the base set or as a ad-don. I really dont mind since its coming from UK and i am in Europe. I just wish that the UK vender would be brave to be a first mover and add the keys to try getting this set to hit MOQ ;) maybe even gaining popularity for trying to expand his potential buyers for his business setup.
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Post by: r5d on Thu, 07 September 2017, 16:13:31
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Sun, 10 September 2017, 03:45:25
I would like to apologise for the lack of communication regarding this set.
Thank you for all of your feedback, it is great to know there is interest in this set.
I will admit I am hesitant to add all of the keys from this: (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/6f7830fa68c43c022e3d691bddb1a9a2 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/6f7830fa68c43c022e3d691bddb1a9a2)) as I feel it may add to much to the price of the base kit especially for ANSI users whom will never use these keys, but I understand that it will make this set more appealing to European customers.
I was aiming to run this group buy fairly soon, however group buys for other keycap sets are starting (or already running) and I do not wish to compete against them. I will confirm a date as soon as possible, but this group buy will most likely begin in October.
Another reason for the delay is that many users have expressed the opinion that this set is too boring, and whilst I love this keycap set, I am unsure whether there is enough interest for this keycap set to reach the MOQ of 150. If you want to purchase this keycap set, please let me know as I would like to gauge the interest level in this set before I start the group buy.
The novelties have been reworked slightly (same designs but the lines are thicker) in order to meet GMK's guidelines. The new novelty designs are being submitted to GMK and once they have been improved, I will release renders for them
If you have any other feedback, please let me know.
Thank you for reading.
capsunlocked
Post by: Atredl on Sun, 10 September 2017, 03:49:04
Post by: TalkingTree on Sun, 10 September 2017, 04:06:06
I will admit I am hesitant to add all of the keys from this: (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/6f7830fa68c43c022e3d691bddb1a9a2 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/6f7830fa68c43c022e3d691bddb1a9a2)) as I feel it may add to much to the price of the base kit especially for ANSI users whom will never use these keys, but I understand that it will make this set more appealing to European customers.You could try and offer it as a separate kit.
If you want to purchase this keycap set, please let me know as I would like to gauge the interest level in this set before I start the group buy.Many sets have to deal with the fact that those who expressed their interest don't always actually order them.
Don't be discouraged by the negative feedback, this set has the potential to be successful.
Post by: r5d on Sun, 10 September 2017, 04:32:56
Post by: x86ect on Sun, 10 September 2017, 06:13:48
Post by: ideus on Sun, 10 September 2017, 08:06:16
Post by: n0rvig on Sun, 10 September 2017, 11:06:25
Post by: donjoan666 on Sun, 10 September 2017, 14:27:11
Hey,
I would like to apologise for the lack of communication regarding this set.
Thank you for all of your feedback, it is great to know there is interest in this set.
I will admit I am hesitant to add all of the keys from this: (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/6f7830fa68c43c022e3d691bddb1a9a2 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/6f7830fa68c43c022e3d691bddb1a9a2)) as I feel it may add to much to the price of the base kit especially for ANSI users whom will never use these keys, but I understand that it will make this set more appealing to European customers.
I was aiming to run this group buy fairly soon, however group buys for other keycap sets are starting (or already running) and I do not wish to compete against them. I will confirm a date as soon as possible, but this group buy will most likely begin in October.
Another reason for the delay is that many users have expressed the opinion that this set is too boring, and whilst I love this keycap set, I am unsure whether there is enough interest for this keycap set to reach the MOQ of 150. If you want to purchase this keycap set, please let me know as I would like to gauge the interest level in this set before I start the group buy.
The novelties have been reworked slightly (same designs but the lines are thicker) in order to meet GMK's guidelines. The new novelty designs are being submitted to GMK and once they have been improved, I will release renders for them
If you have any other feedback, please let me know.
Thank you for reading.
capsunlocked
I've been so waiting for this set by the way. Since it might be TOO boring (I'm not though), could you consider putting LED keycaps as a add on? If it is still not late?
Post by: ectoplasmatic on Sun, 10 September 2017, 16:29:34
Post by: Vigrith on Sun, 10 September 2017, 17:39:31
Post by: 1905ChelseaBlues on Sun, 10 September 2017, 21:55:07
Post by: LDobler on Mon, 11 September 2017, 01:15:33
Post by: oluigenuma on Mon, 11 September 2017, 04:26:12
Post by: pon10 on Mon, 11 September 2017, 16:27:27
Thank you for all of your feedback, it is great to know there is interest in this set.
I will admit I am hesitant to add all of the keys from this: (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/6f7830fa68c43c022e3d691bddb1a9a2 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/6f7830fa68c43c022e3d691bddb1a9a2)) as I feel it may add to much to the price of the base kit especially for ANSI users whom will never use these keys, but I understand that it will make this set more appealing to European customers.
Thanks for the news on this set.
Regarding a "Norde" kit these should just be the keys to add to the set for minimal European coverage:
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Referred again from Wodans post. The low cost of adding the key to the base set of quote: 16,50€ at MOQ 150!
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85609.0
hoping to see this alive! :)
Post by: donjoan666 on Thu, 05 October 2017, 20:12:23
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Sat, 07 October 2017, 03:29:51
Thank you for all of your feedback, it is great to know there is interest in this set.
I will admit I am hesitant to add all of the keys from this: (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/6f7830fa68c43c022e3d691bddb1a9a2 (http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/6f7830fa68c43c022e3d691bddb1a9a2)) as I feel it may add to much to the price of the base kit especially for ANSI users whom will never use these keys, but I understand that it will make this set more appealing to European customers.
Thanks for the news on this set.
Regarding a "Norde" kit these should just be the keys to add to the set for minimal European coverage:
(Attachment Link)
Referred again from Wodans post. The low cost of adding the key to the base set of quote: 16,50€ at MOQ 150!
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85609.0
hoping to see this alive! :)
Thank you for this information. :)
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Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Sat, 07 October 2017, 03:31:46
GB soon? :p I feel like I need this in my life... It's all good for me even if there's no LED locks...
The base kit and novelty keys are being finalised with GMK.
I am aiming to launch this group buy in November. Sorry for the massive delays, thank you for the continued support. :)
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Post by: DreLLin on Thu, 26 October 2017, 21:32:09
GB soon? :p I feel like I need this in my life... It's all good for me even if there's no LED locks...
The base kit and novelty keys are being finalised with GMK.
I am aiming to launch this group buy in November. Sorry for the massive delays, thank you for the continued support. :)
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Is it still set to be run in November?
Post by: donjoan666 on Fri, 03 November 2017, 04:04:07
Post by: midnightrun on Fri, 03 November 2017, 06:41:49
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Fri, 03 November 2017, 13:34:44
Post by: BlackInk on Sat, 04 November 2017, 21:42:53
Post by: Applet on Sun, 05 November 2017, 04:47:14
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Sun, 05 November 2017, 14:53:31
Currently saving money for D O O M
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Still saving some dolla bills for this
Hi everyone!
I have submitted the latest novelty designs to GMK, however I am still waiting to receive a response from the regarding a price (and whether they are suitable). I have just sent them another email.
I am not sure when the group buy for this keycap set will start, however it will most likely be in December. I think the group buy for EnjoyPBT Europe will be organised before this.
I am also looking to work with a North American proxy to make this set more appealing to customers out side of the EU.
Thank you for showing interest in this set, I really appreciate it. I am still working to make sure this set gets produced, despite the lack of updates recently. :)
Post by: Atredl on Sun, 10 December 2017, 17:14:44
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 10 December 2017, 17:17:25
though i do like the Q@ and Mu legend.
haven't been paying much attention to this IC but it looks to have shaped up nicely, might get a set
Post by: avid on Sun, 10 December 2017, 17:38:52
don't add norde, look at the numbers, not many people want it even if it is cheap
though i do like the Q@ and Mu legend.
haven't been paying much attention to this IC but it looks to have shaped up nicely, might get a set
+2000 base kits, 100 norde-kits for laser. If you're lucky it will sell 10 norde kits here, so yeah, dont bother.
Not sure why not more set isnt using that Q+M sublegends.
Post by: r5d on Mon, 11 December 2017, 02:53:37
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 11 December 2017, 07:56:10
Eagerly looking forward to this!
don't add norde, look at the numbers, not many people want it even if it is cheap
though i do like the Q@ and Mu legend.
haven't been paying much attention to this IC but it looks to have shaped up nicely, might get a set
don't add norde, look at the numbers, not many people want it even if it is cheap
though i do like the Q@ and Mu legend.
haven't been paying much attention to this IC but it looks to have shaped up nicely, might get a set
+2000 base kits, 100 norde-kits for laser. If you're lucky it will sell 10 norde kits here, so yeah, dont bother.
Not sure why not more set isnt using that Q+M sublegends.
Money all saved up! Start the GB! :))
Hey Everyone!
Unfortunately GMK have rejected most of the novelty designs. I can organise the group buy however the only novelties that will be available will be the DOOM mask.
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 11 December 2017, 08:00:42
Unfortunately GMK have rejected most of the novelty designs. I can organise the group buy however the only novelties that will be available will be the DOOM mask.Fair enough for me. I'm mainly buying it for the colour scheme.
Post by: Applet on Mon, 11 December 2017, 08:36:18
Post by: ideus on Mon, 11 December 2017, 10:55:36
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 12 December 2017, 02:28:00
Post by: oluigenuma on Tue, 12 December 2017, 03:28:16
don't add norde, look at the numbers, not many people want it even if it is cheap
though i do like the Q@ and Mu legend.
haven't been paying much attention to this IC but it looks to have shaped up nicely, might get a set
I‘ve looked through the numbers of groupbuys with international kits on massdrop and although I think massdrop isn‘t a representative source for iso kits I still think you are partially right.
Interest in this set isn‘t a lot higher than moq and interest for a ‚norde kit‘ is at 10% at most, which doesn‘t seem to justify the extra costs for the 90 or 95% that don‘t need it.
But imho the inclusion of norde shouldn‘t be a solely financial decision as long as it doesn’t jeopardize the success of the groupbuy. Not including language specific keys is building barriers especially for new members of the community.
Don‘t get me wrong here. I don’t think including more keys is beneficial for this gb but I do see the tendencies of denial for language specific kits with concern.
Novelties: That‘s sad but I‘m still interested, mainly because of the coloring. What are your plans now? Include the skull cap in the main set? Doing new novelties or changing the ones not accepted?
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 12 December 2017, 03:40:41
i just don't think they'll pay $165 for this GMK set
that is my motivation
the need is definitely there, i just don't think i needs to be tacked on to every GB
i'd love to see more keys included in future buys, but it's not time for every GB to have NORDE just yet
Post by: oluigenuma on Tue, 12 December 2017, 03:42:49
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 18 December 2017, 17:06:27
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Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 18 December 2017, 17:08:41
What do you think about dropping the theme, and the orange keycap, and simply having this as a black and grey GMK keycap set?What would change? No orange backspace and no novelties?
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 18 December 2017, 17:09:17
What do you think about dropping the theme, and the orange keycap, and simply having this as a black and grey GMK keycap set?What would change? No orange backspace and no novelties?
Correct. All of the other keys would stay the same.
Post by: pace8500 on Mon, 18 December 2017, 17:10:14
Post by: TalkingTree on Mon, 18 December 2017, 17:12:06
Little loss to me, to be honest. I never was into those novelties and I split my backspace anyway.Correct. All of the other keys would stay the same.What do you think about dropping the theme, and the orange keycap, and simply having this as a black and grey GMK keycap set?What would change? No orange backspace and no novelties?
I do like the grey on black look of the set. I would dare to suggest to invert the alphas (CR on N9) to make it a two tone, but I guess this set has already gone under too many revisions.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 18 December 2017, 17:41:44
Why not drop the novelties but keep the orange keys?
We could change the orange key from backspace to enter, and also have an orange ISO enter. What do you think?
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Post by: pace8500 on Mon, 18 December 2017, 17:43:56
Why not drop the novelties but keep the orange keys?
We could change the orange key from backspace to enter, and also have an orange ISO enter. What do you think?
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Orange enter and esc would be cool.
Post by: Owl- on Mon, 18 December 2017, 19:43:52
Why not drop the novelties but keep the orange keys?
We could change the orange key from backspace to enter, and also have an orange ISO enter. What do you think?
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Keeping backspace as orange is preferred, though I wouldn't mind paying extra for orange Enter to support anyone that wants it.
Post by: BlackInk on Mon, 18 December 2017, 20:04:10
Why not drop the novelties but keep the orange keys?
We could change the orange key from backspace to enter, and also have an orange ISO enter. What do you think?
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make an orange Esc too and keeping both backspace and enter
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Mon, 18 December 2017, 20:16:41
Edit: Dare I suggest... a color pack of Esc and Enter keys of various popular colors?
Post by: rustywok on Mon, 18 December 2017, 21:20:56
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 18 December 2017, 22:11:44
I sort of liked the orange backspace key. It was something different from the Esc./Enter accents that seem to be in every other keyset on GH.
I'd have to agree, dropping the orange backspace isn't a big loss, I use split backspace. Orange enter and escape sounds cool, I've SkiDolcha so can just use that sets stuff if needed. I don't care for novelties of any kind. Still hoping this happens though!
Edit: Dare I suggest... a color pack of Esc and Enter keys of various popular colors?
Why not drop the novelties but keep the orange keys?
We could change the orange key from backspace to enter, and also have an orange ISO enter. What do you think?
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make an orange Esc too then
Why not drop the novelties but keep the orange keys?
We could change the orange key from backspace to enter, and also have an orange ISO enter. What do you think?
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Keeping backspace as orange is preferred, though I wouldn't mind paying extra for orange Enter to support anyone that wants it.
Why not drop the novelties but keep the orange keys?
We could change the orange key from backspace to enter, and also have an orange ISO enter. What do you think?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Orange enter and esc would be cool.
Little loss to me, to be honest. I never was into those novelties and I split my backspace anyway.Correct. All of the other keys would stay the same.What do you think about dropping the theme, and the orange keycap, and simply having this as a black and grey GMK keycap set?What would change? No orange backspace and no novelties?
I do like the grey on black look of the set. I would dare to suggest to invert the alphas (CR on N9) to make it a two tone, but I guess this set has already gone under too many revisions.
I'd have to agree, dropping the orange backspace isn't a big loss, I use split backspace. Orange enter and escape sounds cool, I've SkiDolcha so can just use that sets stuff if needed. I don't care for novelties of any kind. Still hoping this happens though!
Edit: Dare I suggest... a color pack of Esc and Enter keys of various popular colors?
Thank you for all of the feedback.
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After much consideration, this is going to be an MF DOOM keycap set. The 1u R1 MF DOOM mask novelty will be included with the base set, with the following colour scheme:
- CR Base
- N9 Legend
and also:
- CR Base
- V2 Legend
In addition to this both of the R3 ALLCAPS Keycaps will also be included, as will the V2 backspace.
Add On Pack:
The add on pack will include the following:
- R1 Backspace Key
- R1 Coloured MF DOOM Mask Key
- R3 ALLCAPS Key
Each of these 3 keycaps will come in all of the remaining colours of MF DOOM's "Special Herbs Volumes" Record Sleeves:
https://www.gasdrawls.com/store/p55/Special_Herbs_Bundle_%282xLP___45%29_x_5.html (https://www.gasdrawls.com/store/p55/Special_Herbs_Bundle_%282xLP___45%29_x_5.html)
There will be 12 keycaps in the add on pack.
What do you think?
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Mon, 18 December 2017, 22:13:24
I sort of liked the orange backspace key. It was something different from the Esc./Enter accents that seem to be in every other keyset on GH.I'd have to agree, dropping the orange backspace isn't a big loss, I use split backspace. Orange enter and escape sounds cool, I've SkiDolcha so can just use that sets stuff if needed. I don't care for novelties of any kind. Still hoping this happens though!
Edit: Dare I suggest... a color pack of Esc and Enter keys of various popular colors?Why not drop the novelties but keep the orange keys?
We could change the orange key from backspace to enter, and also have an orange ISO enter. What do you think?
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make an orange Esc too thenWhy not drop the novelties but keep the orange keys?
We could change the orange key from backspace to enter, and also have an orange ISO enter. What do you think?
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Keeping backspace as orange is preferred, though I wouldn't mind paying extra for orange Enter to support anyone that wants it.Why not drop the novelties but keep the orange keys?
We could change the orange key from backspace to enter, and also have an orange ISO enter. What do you think?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Orange enter and esc would be cool.Little loss to me, to be honest. I never was into those novelties and I split my backspace anyway.Correct. All of the other keys would stay the same.What do you think about dropping the theme, and the orange keycap, and simply having this as a black and grey GMK keycap set?What would change? No orange backspace and no novelties?
I do like the grey on black look of the set. I would dare to suggest to invert the alphas (CR on N9) to make it a two tone, but I guess this set has already gone under too many revisions.I'd have to agree, dropping the orange backspace isn't a big loss, I use split backspace. Orange enter and escape sounds cool, I've SkiDolcha so can just use that sets stuff if needed. I don't care for novelties of any kind. Still hoping this happens though!
Edit: Dare I suggest... a color pack of Esc and Enter keys of various popular colors?
Thank you for all of the feedback.
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After much consideration, this is going to be an MF DOOM keycap set. The 1u R1 MF DOOM mask novelty will be included with the base set, with the following colour scheme:
- CR Base
- N9 Legend
and also:
- CR Base
- V2 Legend
In addition to this both of the R3 ALLCAPS Keycaps will also be included, as will the V2 backspace.
Add On Pack:
The add on pack will include the following:
- R1 Backspace Key
- R1 Coloured MF DOOM Mask Key
- R3 ALLCAPS Key
Each of these 3 keycaps will come in all of the remaining colours of MF DOOM's "Special Herbs Volumes" Record Sleeves:
https://www.gasdrawls.com/store/p55/Special_Herbs_Bundle_%282xLP___45%29_x_5.html (https://www.gasdrawls.com/store/p55/Special_Herbs_Bundle_%282xLP___45%29_x_5.html)
There will be 12 keycaps in the add on pack.
What do you think?
If there is not enough interest in the theme, then I am fine with removing all of the novelties, and having an all black and grey keycap set with an add on pack for Esc Keys and Backspaces in different colours.
Post by: onefunkynote on Tue, 19 December 2017, 00:25:42
Post by: x86ect on Tue, 19 December 2017, 01:40:12
After much consideration, this is going to be an MF DOOM keycap set.
Good!
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 20 February 2018, 13:42:04
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Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 20 February 2018, 14:47:15
Is there interest in this set if it was a different profile, such as DSA or SA?
(I forgot to ask these in my previous post.)
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Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 20 February 2018, 14:49:24
no to SA/DSA
Post by: xondat on Tue, 20 February 2018, 14:50:50
yes to w/o novelties
no to SA/DSA
same
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 20 February 2018, 14:57:55
same sameyes to w/o novelties
no to SA/DSA
same
Post by: oluigenuma on Tue, 20 February 2018, 14:59:48
same same samesame sameyes to w/o novelties
no to SA/DSA
same
Post by: Vigrith on Tue, 20 February 2018, 15:02:03
Post by: x86ect on Tue, 20 February 2018, 15:38:05
same same same samesame same samesame sameyes to w/o novelties
no to SA/DSA
same
Post by: Rafa_n on Tue, 20 February 2018, 16:21:12
same same same same samesame same same samesame same samesame sameyes to w/o novelties
no to SA/DSA
same
Post by: futurecrime on Tue, 20 February 2018, 16:46:29
same same same same samesame same same samesame same samesame sameyes to w/o novelties
no to SA/DSA
same
Yeah this
Post by: dohmain on Tue, 20 February 2018, 18:09:54
same same same same samesame same same samesame same samesame sameyes to w/o novelties
no to SA/DSA
same
Yeah this
+1
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 20 February 2018, 18:23:24
same same same same samesame same same samesame same samesame sameyes to w/o novelties
no to SA/DSA
same
Yeah this
+1
Thank you! It's great to see there is still support for this! ;D
Regarding the price, the price for customers in the EU will be 140GBP. I know that this is high, but it also includes free next day shipping with DHL which is approx. 10-20GBP (depending on your location).
The price for customers outside of the EU will be much lower and I will announce proxies soon.
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Tue, 20 February 2018, 19:32:10
Post by: xondat on Tue, 20 February 2018, 19:47:25
Regarding the price, the price for customers in the EU will be 140GBP. I know that this is high, but it also includes free next day shipping with DHL which is approx. 10-20GBP (depending on your location).
So the price is 120 + 10-20 shipping? Seems unfair for someone to pay 140 but delivery costs 10, and another pays 140 but their delivery is 20.
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 20 February 2018, 19:51:50
Regarding the price, the price for customers in the EU will be 140GBP. I know that this is high, but it also includes free next day shipping with DHL which is approx. 10-20GBP (depending on your location).
So the price is 120 + 10-20 shipping? Seems unfair for someone to pay 140 but delivery costs 10, and another pays 140 but their delivery is 20.
given the quotes i've gotten from GMK in the past month, providing VAT is included that's pretty good
and besides, when you get free shipping from somewhere, it's not always a flat rate, it's just not mentioned
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:08:59
Regarding the price, the price for customers in the EU will be 140GBP. I know that this is high, but it also includes free next day shipping with DHL which is approx. 10-20GBP (depending on your location).
So the price is 120 + 10-20 shipping? Seems unfair for someone to pay 140 but delivery costs 10, and another pays 140 but their delivery is 20.
given the quotes i've gotten from GMK in the past month, providing VAT is included that's pretty good
and besides, when you get free shipping from somewhere, it's not always a flat rate, it's just not mentioned
Everyone, will pay the same amount, receive the same product and also receive the same level of customer service.
The reason I have mentioned the shipping fees is because I wanted to be transparent, and inform customers in the EU as to why the price is 140GBP.
Post by: Dongulator on Wed, 21 February 2018, 13:31:08
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 22 February 2018, 11:15:38
Post by: beninski on Thu, 22 February 2018, 14:01:27
Post by: Mr_BeastQuake on Thu, 22 February 2018, 19:17:18
I think that I am going to start the GB on 1st March 2018.
nice
Post by: x86ect on Thu, 01 March 2018, 09:56:04
I think that I am going to start the GB on 1st March 2018.
Let's do this! :p
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Thu, 01 March 2018, 10:22:11
I think that I am going to start the GB on 1st March 2018.
;D
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Fri, 02 March 2018, 10:37:38
Post by: kmba on Fri, 02 March 2018, 10:48:58
Post by: oluigenuma on Fri, 02 March 2018, 10:53:29
Post by: hervuli on Fri, 02 March 2018, 10:58:53
Post by: odd on Fri, 02 March 2018, 15:05:21
Post by: dyrdevil on Sat, 03 March 2018, 00:30:38
Not to dis your theme, which is super cool. Just not an album I'm familar with. (but I am listening to it now because of this IC!)
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Fri, 09 March 2018, 03:18:02
I am going to buy the set regardless but can you please make the MF Doom mask novelties be part of the main set and not just come with the novelties add on?. I am not fond of the novelty set at all but I do want the MF Doom mask.
Good News! The DOOM Mask and the ALL CAPS keys are going to be added to the base set.
The following novelties will be added:
- R1 1U DOOM Mask x 1
- R3 1.75 ALL CAPS Key x 1
- R4 1.25 DOOM Mask Key x 2
Post by: jimirolln on Fri, 09 March 2018, 03:22:52
Post by: deadbent on Wed, 14 March 2018, 12:09:48
Quote
Most GMK Kits will fit. XDA, DSA, SA, MT3, Tai-Hao you'll likely need:
- 1x 1.75u Shift (R4)
- 2x 1.5u Modifier (R4)
- 1x 7u Spacebar
Post by: Rafa_n on Wed, 14 March 2018, 15:21:23
Holy **** I need this set! Ordered my first mechanical keyboard a few days ago (Tokyo60 from MD) and this seems perfect. Probably not the best place to ask this but...I'm not very familiar with keycap sizing, based on what I read in the description of the keyboard, I would need to at least find a different space bar to fit?QuoteMost GMK Kits will fit. XDA, DSA, SA, MT3, Tai-Hao you'll likely need:
- 1x 1.75u Shift (R4)
- 2x 1.5u Modifier (R4)
- 1x 7u Spacebar
this will have everything you need to cover the tokyo60
Post by: deadbent on Wed, 14 March 2018, 16:24:21
Holy **** I need this set! Ordered my first mechanical keyboard a few days ago (Tokyo60 from MD) and this seems perfect. Probably not the best place to ask this but...I'm not very familiar with keycap sizing, based on what I read in the description of the keyboard, I would need to at least find a different space bar to fit?QuoteMost GMK Kits will fit. XDA, DSA, SA, MT3, Tai-Hao you'll likely need:
- 1x 1.75u Shift (R4)
- 2x 1.5u Modifier (R4)
- 1x 7u Spacebar
this will have everything you need to cover the tokyo60
Awesome, thank you!
Post by: Dontmesswiththewest on Wed, 14 March 2018, 19:16:41
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 15 March 2018, 15:17:02
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Thu, 15 March 2018, 15:31:21
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Post by: donut_sauce on Thu, 15 March 2018, 16:08:33
Post by: Atredl on Thu, 15 March 2018, 23:57:09
Post by: ill789 on Fri, 16 March 2018, 22:04:05
Post by: TalkingTree on Fri, 16 March 2018, 23:21:05
how long does it usually take for the actual keyset to ship?Production time is usually sixteen weeks with GMK, then the sets are shipped to the seller and then to the customer.
Post by: ill789 on Sat, 17 March 2018, 01:36:33
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Sun, 18 March 2018, 08:41:25
https://cartel.ltd/
The group buy will be launching soon.
Post by: Atredl on Sun, 18 March 2018, 12:29:50
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 20 March 2018, 12:10:27
capsunlocked will be the EU vendor, and cartel will be the NA proxy.
Prices:
capsunlocked - 130GBP
Cartel - 135$
The base kit will include all of the 4 novelties.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 20 March 2018, 12:17:05
Post by: oluigenuma on Tue, 20 March 2018, 12:20:00
Post by: Valaris on Tue, 20 March 2018, 12:21:26
Isn‘t it cheaper to buy from the US proxy as European then? Where does the huge difference in price come from?
I think it's so you don't get hit with customs fees.
Post by: oluigenuma on Tue, 20 March 2018, 12:26:16
Isn‘t it cheaper to buy from the US proxy as European then? Where does the huge difference in price come from?
I think it's so you don't get hit with customs fees.
True. With customs it’s roughly the same.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 20 March 2018, 12:28:08
Post by: xondat on Tue, 20 March 2018, 12:28:50
Isn‘t it cheaper to buy from the US proxy as European then? Where does the huge difference in price come from?
I think it's so you don't get hit with customs fees.
Custom fees are 8GBP/11USD, VAT is $27. $10 cheaper to buy from proxy (with VAT + customs factored in), but got to pay shipping so probably equal for the UK...
Post by: Atredl on Tue, 20 March 2018, 12:34:53
iirc UK price includes shipping. I don’t think it’s been mentioned if US price includes shipping but I would assume no.Isn‘t it cheaper to buy from the US proxy as European then? Where does the huge difference in price come from?
I think it's so you don't get hit with customs fees.
Custom fees are 8GBP/11USD, VAT is $27. $10 cheaper to buy from proxy (with VAT + customs factored in), but got to pay shipping so probably equal for the UK...
Welp, nvm.
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 20 March 2018, 12:36:13
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Tue, 20 March 2018, 12:49:05
Post by: wowremy on Tue, 20 March 2018, 19:06:01
The base kit will include all of the 4 novelties.
Can you still purchase the novelties by themselves?
Post by: Applet on Wed, 21 March 2018, 11:26:40
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Fri, 23 March 2018, 11:00:00
Post by: CAPS UNLOCKED on Fri, 23 March 2018, 11:05:00
Here are the links to the store pages:
https://caps-unlocked.com/gmk-doom/
https://cartel.ltd/gmk-doom/
I am in the process of creating a thread in the GB Section!
Post by: Photoelectric on Fri, 23 March 2018, 11:18:44
This thread is now being locked, please continue the discussion in the GB thread.