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Title: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 25 September 2019, 09:15:54
(https://i.imgur.com/28Qck8u.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2ZJOQXI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xGAPIjx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5DP98IF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/p8FOe36.jpg)

Google form for placing orders (https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1ovnIBcnEhQ8D14_5gVOcmfD16ZGRavWTTCgrlPzv_mg)

Order information (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ke59MgAsZ6ndgRrGKoOHbbexn5sZshrAS9p2pbRq0U0)

Follow me on Instagram for most prompt updates: https://www.instagram.com/fox_lab_keyboard/

Key 65 is featured with the three-layer case and dual-gasket structure. The plate mounting system is an improved version of the gasket sandwich on Leaf 60. In addition, we add gaskets between the middle case and the bottom case. There's an optional rubber sheet between the PCB and the plate. The numerous options will offer you the most freedom to make the keyboard look and feel as you wish.

This GB is the most sophisticated one we've run so far. It could also be the most sophisticated GB in the keyboard history. For each of the three layers of the case, you can choose from 3 materials, 3 finishes, and 9 colors. There are two versions of weights and 6 versions of the top cases. If we count all the options available to choose, the number of possible combinations is around 400 million. We are crazy enough to run the GB in this way. Now we invite you to be a part of this historical crazy GB.

Price:

Timeline:



QA

Q: Color samples?
A:
E-White: https://imgur.com/WR1gW3B
E-Yellow: https://imgur.com/rQMhw50
E-Red: https://imgur.com/TReEOoE
E-Black: https://imgur.com/WFypGrT
E-Pink: https://imgur.com/xgr0992
E-Teal: https://imgur.com/BYFr4cK
Anodizing Blue: https://imgur.com/EjaqDG8
Anodizing Grey: https://imgur.com/7rl51AR
Anodizing Midnight Green: https://imgur.com/9tSLeDU
POM Red: https://imgur.com/4jlSRpw
POM Yellow: https://imgur.com/5TVyYd0
PC clear: https://imgur.com/WNGRVpm

Q: What does the XXX combination will look like? Can you make a prototype or render with this combination?
A: No. I understand it's not easy to imagine how your combination will look like and it's important to you. I'll update some more photos and renders in one day or two. However, we are not able to do this for everyone. I suggest you choose the same color for the top and middle cases.

Q: What are the top case layouts?
A: WKL cases have the left blocker and WK cases don't.
6.25u spacebar layout -> choose WK top case
7u spacebar layout with left blocker -> choose WKL top case
7u spacebar layout without left blocker -> choose WK top case

Q: What are the logo options on top case?
A:
(https://i.imgur.com/3OUXVjF.jpg)
Above is the No logo version
(https://i.imgur.com/HlW63YA.jpg)
Above is the Key logo version (sorry for the upsidedown plate)
(https://i.imgur.com/XniVGLt.jpg)
Above is the Kanji logo version

Q: What's the difference between POM and PC?
A: They are very similar in terms of density and finish.

Q: Does E-coating brass parts look the same with E-coating aluminum?
A: Very similar.
(https://i.imgur.com/iSN21qF.jpg)
The weight on the bottom is E-white brass. The case on top is E-white aluminum.

Q: How can I choose the plate materials?
A: The sound and feel are all subjective. If you don't have a preference, aluminum is the safe choice.

Q: What is Electrophoresis Clear?
A: E-clear is a clear Electrophoresis coating. It's clear so the part will show its original color. This is how it looks on brass parts.
More
(https://i.imgur.com/YSd0LK0.jpg)


Q: What does the titanium plate look?
A:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/yj65rca.jpg)


Q: What are the plate layouts?
A: 
More
(https://i.imgur.com/ByWUlIO.jpg)
7u spacebar version plate.
(https://i.imgur.com/SWzCDvs.jpg)
6.25u spacebar + split spacebar version plate.


Q: Do I need to customize the top right Key logo if I chose Kanji/No logo top? Do I need to customize the key logo on the weight if I chose the Kanji weight?
A: No and no.

Q: What are the weight versions:
A:
(https://i.imgur.com/g64T2oN.jpg)
Above is the Kanji version weight
(https://i.imgur.com/kWRCH2k.jpg)
Above is the Key version weight

Q: Can I order an extra weight/logo/top case?
A: No, for the sake of simplicity. We are dealing with 400 million possible combinations and we don't want to add more.

Q: Can I order more than one extra PCBs/plates?
A: No, for the sake of simplicity. We are dealing with 400 million possible combinations and we don't want to add more.

Q: PCB layout
A:
More
(https://i.imgur.com/MQTZV0o.png)
Universal PCB
(https://i.imgur.com/NDqjqJm.png)
Hotswap PCB


Q: ALPS support?
A: Supported by the universal PCB but not by plates. I'll share the plate file before the GB closes.

Q: ISO support?
A: Supported by the universal PCB but not by plates. I'll share the plate file before the GB closes.



Structure diagram

(https://i.imgur.com/tqlbabP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/k6zpnxl.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jEUy7ng.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tbsJd6d.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ISiwLlf.jpg)

For more photos, check this album (https://imgur.com/a/w0kObTD).



Update 1: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102609.msg2838182#msg2838182
Update 2: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102609.msg2842873#msg2842873
Update 3: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102609.msg2856492#msg2856492
Update 4: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102609.msg2872063#msg2872063
Update 5: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102609.msg2881104#msg2881104



Update:
[/s]
About the PCB reset button:

If the PCB you received has a physical button, it may not work after fully assembled. It happened because the PCB supplier changed the BOM after the prototype was tested. The button will be pushed against. the bottom case so the PCB doesn't work. We have removed the physical reset buttons for most PCBs. Only the first 40 or so PCBs still have the physical reset button. You can simply remove it with a wirecutter or soldering iron. It's not a necessary part for the PCB (Leaf60 PCB didn't even have the button). If it bothers you, I can issue a full refund&return. 


Update on the firmware:

I've tested the VIA firmware. It works great.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Signature on Wed, 25 September 2019, 10:40:27
Approved!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: sapphyr on Wed, 25 September 2019, 10:47:19
Can we get a photo of the PCB too, please?

And yes, let's go!!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Soraie on Wed, 25 September 2019, 10:47:59
Yes!!! Been waiting for this!! So many combinations, this is such a tough choice...
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Dennyroxsox on Wed, 25 September 2019, 10:52:21
Awesome! I'm really pumped!

Are renders/samples available for all of the colors? There are way more colors here than I anticipated.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Helpingly on Wed, 25 September 2019, 10:54:41
Super excited for this, now to spend hours thinking about what colors and combinations I want.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: slxdegrees on Wed, 25 September 2019, 10:55:46
What firmware will the PCB use?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: anatworkaccount on Wed, 25 September 2019, 10:57:23
Awesome! I'm really pumped!

Are renders/samples available for all of the colors? There are way more colors here than I anticipated.

Seconded. Doesn't need to be exact but I'm super curious what shade of green we are talking.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: badboy731 on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:01:39
Nice! I gotta make sure not to screw up what I want 😂
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: happycamper87 on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:04:52
Form filled and submitted!

Went with black top and middle, white bottom, and black weight. WK Kanji logo and PC plate.

Shipping when.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:07:01
Approved!

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:07:45
Can we get a photo of the PCB too, please?

And yes, let's go!!

(https://i.imgur.com/1BxzXKQ.jpg)

will have the hotswap version on Sunday.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: JacobTN on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:08:30
I am in for WKL hotswap, Full PC case, teal plate, teal weight, with Brass key logos on both sides  :D stoked
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:10:03
Awesome! I'm really pumped!

Are renders/samples available for all of the colors? There are way more colors here than I anticipated.

I should have photos/renders for all the colors except the midnight green. will post later.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:10:28
What firmware will the PCB use?

QMK
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: minimin on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:14:42
wanna know the degree and what the middle plate part is.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: o3okevin on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:25:38
Looks amazing, so many options! Really looking forward to seeing this in person
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: anatworkaccount on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:28:05
Awesome! I'm really pumped!

Are renders/samples available for all of the colors? There are way more colors here than I anticipated.

I should have photos/renders for all the colors except the midnight green. will post later.

So since you don't have photos/renders of midnight green, could you describe it for me?
Is it Kelly green?
https://www.canva.com/colors/color-meanings/kelly-green/

Is it midnight green like this hex?
https://www.colorhexa.com/004953

or is it something else entirely.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:38:45
Just filled out the GB form! Can't wait for this board, going with an all pink board with black inserts and a PC plate! I'll either use this board with GMK Blink or  another keyset I have in mind that I need to IC first.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:41:22
Looks really cool! With split space is 6.25 or 7 better?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:41:36
wanna know the degree and what the middle plate part is.

Yeah, I'm curious by what the middle case is, I filled the form out and had trouble on choosing a color for that part. Hopefully I made the right choice because I'm not sure if I can edit the form.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: o3okevin on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:43:05
Oh one thing, a rubber layer between pcb and plate was mentioned in the OP but I can't find it on the form. How much would it cost extra?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ILoveMinivans on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:45:29
How much is the additional plate?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:49:25
Awesome! I'm really pumped!

Are renders/samples available for all of the colors? There are way more colors here than I anticipated.

I should have photos/renders for all the colors except the midnight green. will post later.

So since you don't have photos/renders of midnight green, could you describe it for me?
Is it Kelly green?
https://www.canva.com/colors/color-meanings/kelly-green/

Is it midnight green like this hex?
https://www.colorhexa.com/004953

or is it something else entirely.

updated in OP
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:50:18
Looks really cool! With split space is 6.25 or 7 better?

Split space is only for 6.25u spacebar layout.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:54:48
wanna know the degree and what the middle plate part is.

The degree is 7

Do you mean the middle case?

(https://i.imgur.com/28Qck8u.jpg)
It's the part in the left bottom.

(https://i.imgur.com/X1s8kZr.jpg)
side view
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Morgan3Wheeler on Wed, 25 September 2019, 11:57:18
https://imgur.com/7rl51AR
I think there is not Anodizing Blue color sample.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:02:31
https://imgur.com/7rl51AR
I think there is not Anodizing Blue color sample.

Revised
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:03:02
Looks really cool! With split space is 6.25 or 7 better?

Split space is only for 6.25u spacebar layout.
So no WKL for split spacebar?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:05:06
Looks really cool! With split space is 6.25 or 7 better?

Split space is only for 6.25u spacebar layout.
So no WKL for split spacebar?

Here is the universal PCB layout: https://i.imgur.com/MQTZV0o.png
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: endsession on Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:05:42
Is there an order limit or is this GB open for two weeks with no cut-off?

Looks attractive, but I'm still debating on options.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:05:57
Oh one thing, a rubber layer between pcb and plate was mentioned in the OP but I can't find it on the form. How much would it cost extra?

It's free and everyone gets it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:06:15
Looks really cool! With split space is 6.25 or 7 better?

Split space is only for 6.25u spacebar layout.
So no WKL for split spacebar?

Here is the universal PCB layout: https://i.imgur.com/MQTZV0o.png
The 'customize' the plate field indicates the 6.25u is not compatible with WKL top
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: xchangmanx on Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:07:30
I'm a noob here.  I'm looking fwd to this as to hopefully be my first custom build.  It looks amazing.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:09:09
Is there an order limit or is this GB open for two weeks with no cut-off?

Looks attractive, but I'm still debating on options.

I don't think the sale will go beyond our ability but if it happens I may close the form.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:10:57
When does invoicing begin?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:14:12
Here is a crappy mock up how the PC case could look with the yellow PCB inside. Maybe someone will find this helpful in their decision making.

(https://i.imgur.com/kovg0dV.png)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: PremierMushroom on Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:23:38
Wow! the number of options is mind-blowing!

So, I ordered 4 sets (4 form responses). However, I haven't got any confirmation emails from Google forms (I guess you set it that way?).
Is there any way I can see the forms I filled? My paranoid self is quite afraid that I might have made a mistake or two.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DrLove on Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:41:34
Are there any renders that show some side views for non clear materials? I would like to see how much of each layer is visible.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:44:16
(https://i.chzbgr.com/full/4922460672/hF15C5E2E/)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MK47 on Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:44:47
Do you have a discord server?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:49:24
will the hot-swap PCB have sockets for both alps and MX?

edit: nvm just read alps is only on universal PCB
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: zian_ on Wed, 25 September 2019, 12:52:58
Form filled out! In!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: infamousvincci on Wed, 25 September 2019, 13:01:09
How do i delete my order?

Was tryjng to order 2pcs and i messed up both of them. :/

I want to start fresh.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: JacobTN on Wed, 25 September 2019, 13:12:25
Curious as to how I can double check/edit my order
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Jinnnxxu on Wed, 25 September 2019, 13:12:44
Innnnn! I really like the FOX logo and many styles that we can choose!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Wed, 25 September 2019, 13:28:50
Anyone have experience typing on a titanium plate?

To OP:  It would be great to see a profile or 3/4 view of the board with different top, middle, and bottom colors so we can all see precisely how the transition between the 3 elements looks.  Similar to the PC side view pic.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: RETURNISO on Wed, 25 September 2019, 13:30:45
Are there any renders that show some side views for non clear materials? I would like to see how much of each layer is visible.

+1 :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fatboycarney on Wed, 25 September 2019, 13:30:52
Anyone have experience typing on a titanium plate?

To OP:  It would be great to see a profile or 3/4 view of the board with different top, middle, and bottom colors so we can all see precisely how the transition between the 3 elements looks.

Agreed on the profile view with 3 different colours

@OP this is just Wow impressive. GLGB!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Lil on Wed, 25 September 2019, 13:37:49
What is the cost for the extra plates? I realise the cost to upgrade, but not the cost for the extra.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Syrah94 on Wed, 25 September 2019, 13:42:27
long time lurker, glad I am in for one.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: mooka on Wed, 25 September 2019, 13:46:51
Is there anyway to modify our order?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Lil on Wed, 25 September 2019, 14:04:15
Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 25 September 2019, 14:20:21
When does invoicing begin?

I'm keeping the "edit after submit" function enabled so invoices will be sent out after GB closes.
If you really want to pay the invoice early one, just PM me. 
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 25 September 2019, 14:20:53
Here is a crappy mock up how the PC case could look with the yellow PCB inside. Maybe someone will find this helpful in their decision making.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/kovg0dV.png)


 :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 25 September 2019, 14:23:37
Wow! the number of options is mind-blowing!

So, I ordered 4 sets (4 form responses). However, I haven't got any confirmation emails from Google forms (I guess you set it that way?).
Is there any way I can see the forms I filled? My paranoid self is quite afraid that I might have made a mistake or two.

I didn't enable that function for the first 50 orders or so. The first 50 people can know their response URL only after you filled the form.
All the rest people will receive an email with their response URL that they can use to modify the order.
If you're among the 50 and want to have your response URL, just PM me your email address.
It seems like it doesn't work in the way I thought. Right now I don't know how to retrieve your response URL if you didn't save it. Does anyone know?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: infinitecurry on Wed, 25 September 2019, 14:24:25
Ordered an e-teal and and a full pc. Considering going for a 3rd board...
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 25 September 2019, 14:30:16
How do i delete my order?

Was tryjng to order 2pcs and i messed up both of them. :/

I want to start fresh.

Sent from my GM1915 using Tapatalk

You didn't need to delete the previous orders. You can modify them if you copied the response URL after you filled in the form.
I can send you your response URL if you can't find it. Just PM your email address to me.
edit: It seems like it doesn't work in the way I thought, I don't know how to retrieve your response URL if you didn't save it. Does anyone know?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 25 September 2019, 14:30:56
Anyone have experience typing on a titanium plate?

To OP:  It would be great to see a profile or 3/4 view of the board with different top, middle, and bottom colors so we can all see precisely how the transition between the 3 elements looks.  Similar to the PC side view pic.

Thanks for the advice. Will do
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: infamousvincci on Wed, 25 September 2019, 14:31:50
How do i delete my order?

Was tryjng to order 2pcs and i messed up both of them. :/

I want to start fresh.

Sent from my GM1915 using Tapatalk

You didn't need to delete the previous orders. You can modify them if you copied the response URL after you filled in the form.
I can send you your response URL if you can't find it. Just PM your email address to me.
Pm sent sir!

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 25 September 2019, 14:33:01
What is the cost for the extra plates? I realise the cost to upgrade, but not the cost for the extra.

$10 for extra aluminum and PC plates. Limit to one.
The price should be higher apparently but we decide to set it this way for some historical reasons.
You can do your math for additional titanium and brass plates.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: GoatMaster on Wed, 25 September 2019, 15:07:35
It is possible to split the backspace key am I right?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Xantus on Wed, 25 September 2019, 15:08:14
How does Electrophoresis-Clear look like?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Soraie on Wed, 25 September 2019, 15:13:01
How does Electrophoresis-Clear look like?

There is an image under the QA section, it pretty much shows the color of the brass
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olazy on Wed, 25 September 2019, 15:18:43
It is possible to split the backspace key am I right?
with the universal pcb yes, not with the hot swap

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Emir on Wed, 25 September 2019, 16:03:48
ooohhh
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Aidanchase on Wed, 25 September 2019, 16:11:20
Silly question, are prices in USD?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Helpingly on Wed, 25 September 2019, 16:13:12
If I wanted to order an extra aluminum plate, how much would that cost?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Xantus on Wed, 25 September 2019, 16:18:41
If I wanted to order an extra aluminum plate, how much would that cost?

It will cost 10 $ for Alu and Polycarb.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Soraie on Wed, 25 September 2019, 16:37:38
Silly question, are prices in USD?

All groups buys should be processed in USD
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: megaforce on Wed, 25 September 2019, 17:23:40
You got RGB underglow on PCB?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: directheatedtriode on Wed, 25 September 2019, 18:09:16
Beautiful, hope you'll go back to standard TKL layout for your next offering  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dwarflemur on Wed, 25 September 2019, 18:21:37
I'm in for one, yellow pom top, teal middle, pink bottom, gonna be lit
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: tex_live_utility on Wed, 25 September 2019, 19:34:48
Is this how the layers are arranged?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: obrien_t4 on Wed, 25 September 2019, 19:44:45
I was planning on matching this board with GMK Botanical, does anyone have any ideas about a good color combo to get?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: The Equals D on Wed, 25 September 2019, 19:51:22
So many options I can't decide. Already changed my order 3 times lol.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Solotov on Wed, 25 September 2019, 20:27:25
Hi senter, how will the key logo top look like on polycarb version?

Will it be color as well as the alu? Or will it be just engraving?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jooobe on Wed, 25 September 2019, 21:16:29
Only 2 weeks GB?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Wed, 25 September 2019, 21:47:11
1. can we ask to undervalue the package?

2. whats the weight difference between brass vs alu weight?

3. if i choose brass weight will the shipping get more expensive due to the increased weight?

4. you may want to change the "I didn't order the Key logo top case" option under key logo weight question

Is this how the layers are arranged?

also need confirmation on this pls, is this example using ANO BLUE as the top and middle, and ANO GRAY as bottom?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: rrsurmeier on Wed, 25 September 2019, 21:47:37
What is the thickness on the plates (in mm)?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: pengle on Wed, 25 September 2019, 23:02:35
Just put my order down for a PC xd
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olazy on Wed, 25 September 2019, 23:13:33
Is this how the layers are arranged?

this is close, however based on the pics, the bottom plate covers the entire base the case, the weight is set within the thicker back portion of the bottom plate.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Wed, 25 September 2019, 23:23:21
Looks really cool! With split space is 6.25 or 7 better?

Split space is only for 6.25u spacebar layout.
So no WKL for split spacebar?

Here is the universal PCB layout: https://i.imgur.com/MQTZV0o.png
The 'customize' the plate field indicates the 6.25u is not compatible with WKL top
Can a split spacebar 6.25u layout be used with the wkl top?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Wobafet on Thu, 26 September 2019, 00:10:19
How much does it cost for a brass plate extra?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Impossible Object on Thu, 26 September 2019, 00:20:51
Sorry this may be a stupid question as this is my first GB board. Does the hot swap PCB support 7U, 6.25U or both types of space bar?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: lanyusea on Thu, 26 September 2019, 00:43:10
the green looks great!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: _Paco on Thu, 26 September 2019, 00:57:41
Sorry this may be a stupid question as this is my first GB board. Does the hot swap PCB support 7U, 6.25U or both types of space bar?

The hotswap PCB only supports the 7U spacebar. You can find the PCB layouts in the OP.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Thu, 26 September 2019, 01:28:30
Will the teal more or less look like this?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Poblopuablo on Thu, 26 September 2019, 01:32:45
How much would it cost to get an Alps plate cut? And where could I get it done?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: rmendis on Thu, 26 September 2019, 01:36:30
Any chance we can order 1 extra front and back logo in different colors?
It would help when matching different keysets.
Cheers!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: -musubi on Thu, 26 September 2019, 01:56:10
Will there be any additional details about the pcb, like rgb led support (same as leaf60?) and firmware?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: muppen on Thu, 26 September 2019, 02:26:18

Q: ISO support?
A: Supported by the universal PCB but not by plates. I'll share the plate file before the GB closes.
[/quote]
 
im pretty new to this hobby but this keyboard looks sick, I need iso. what can i do with the plate files if you release them?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Impossible Object on Thu, 26 September 2019, 02:26:55
Will the teal more or less look like this?

Great - thank you. I thought this was the case but wanted to double check in case I made an expensive first mistake.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Thu, 26 September 2019, 05:04:56
Form's filled, really looking forward to this.

(Rip this months supply of food for me)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Coloured on Thu, 26 September 2019, 05:30:54
Form filled out. I wish there was an option to change the accent coloring on the kanji logo though...
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Thu, 26 September 2019, 05:40:06
Form filled out. I wish there was an option to change the accent coloring on the kanji logo though...

There... is?
Customize the top right Key logo (optional): material-(finish)-color
Customize the Key logo on the weight (optional): material-(finish)-color

key logo -> not literally 'key logo' but more like, the KEYBOARD logo

(At least if i understood correctly)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Lil on Thu, 26 September 2019, 05:44:52
Form filled out. I wish there was an option to change the accent coloring on the kanji logo though...

There... is?
Customize the top right Key logo (optional): material-(finish)-color
Customize the Key logo on the weight (optional): material-(finish)-color

key logo -> not literally 'key logo' but more like, the KEYBOARD logo

(At least if i understood correctly)
That's not the kanji logo

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Coloured on Thu, 26 September 2019, 05:45:14
Form filled out. I wish there was an option to change the accent coloring on the kanji logo though...

There... is?
Customize the top right Key logo (optional): material-(finish)-color
Customize the Key logo on the weight (optional): material-(finish)-color

key logo -> not literally 'key logo' but more like, the KEYBOARD logo

(At least if i understood correctly)
I directly assumed they only meant "key logo" because of the option on each of those questions: "I didn't choose the key logo". I guess I'll go make a change and hope for the best, haha. Thanks. :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Lil on Thu, 26 September 2019, 05:46:34
Form filled out. I wish there was an option to change the accent coloring on the kanji logo though...

There... is?
Customize the top right Key logo (optional): material-(finish)-color
Customize the Key logo on the weight (optional): material-(finish)-color

key logo -> not literally 'key logo' but more like, the KEYBOARD logo

(At least if i understood correctly)
I directly assumed they only meant "key logo" because of the option on each of those questions: "I didn't choose the key logo". I guess I'll go make a change and hope for the best, haha. Thanks. :)
No you were originally correct, you can only change the finish of the key logo and not the kanji which is just engraved on the top

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Thu, 26 September 2019, 06:25:14
What is the weight difference between the brass and aluminium weight?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: BserLarry on Thu, 26 September 2019, 06:51:22
@senter
For the question
Customize the Key logo on the weight (optional): material-(finish)-color
Option
I didnt order the Key logo top case

The option ought to be “I didnt order the Key logo weight”
Correct?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: orim23 on Thu, 26 September 2019, 07:17:00
are multiple orders going to be shipped as one package?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: JacobTN on Thu, 26 September 2019, 08:14:37
What is the cost for the extra plates? I realise the cost to upgrade, but not the cost for the extra.

You can get 1 extra plate, Alu or PC for $10. Add extra cost for brass/Ti.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: .rgaindwal on Thu, 26 September 2019, 08:41:29
Hey! Is there no option to get a white POM? Like sirius60 or something like that?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 26 September 2019, 08:57:44
What is the weight difference between the brass and aluminium weight?

Weight.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Thu, 26 September 2019, 10:13:15
What is the weight difference between the brass and aluminium weight?

Weight.

He's asking the number, not what difference. I'd like to know too.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Xantus on Thu, 26 September 2019, 10:25:41
What is the weight difference between the brass and aluminium weight?

Weight.

He's asking the number, not what difference. I'd like to know too.

1+
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: R4WBIT on Thu, 26 September 2019, 11:31:00
I can't see information about it, but is this USB-C or Mini USB?  :confused:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 26 September 2019, 12:14:00
He's asking the number, not what difference. I'd like to know too.

That makes more sense, yea would be nice to know.

Speaking of which is there a price difference between the key logo(s) being brass as opposed to not? As per what is written in OP and in the form it appears not but rather get confirmation.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 26 September 2019, 15:13:17
Is this how the layers are arranged?

I've added some structure diagrams in the OP. Hope the diagrams explained it well.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 26 September 2019, 15:15:30
You got RGB underglow on PCB?

No.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 26 September 2019, 15:17:46
Hi senter, how will the key logo top look like on polycarb version?

Will it be color as well as the alu? Or will it be just engraving?

Thanks!

No poly prototypes with Key logo has been made so I can't answer.

The key logo is a separate part.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 26 September 2019, 15:22:20
1. can we ask to undervalue the package?

2. whats the weight difference between brass vs alu weight?

3. if i choose brass weight will the shipping get more expensive due to the increased weight?

4. you may want to change the "I didn't order the Key logo top case" option under key logo weight question

Is this how the layers are arranged?

also need confirmation on this pls, is this example using ANO BLUE as the top and middle, and ANO GRAY as bottom?

1. PM me for answers.
2. I haven't weighed it yet. A reviewer is sending the prototypes to me. I'll have the numbers when I receive them.
3. Possibly. The shipping fee is more expansive for every 500g.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 26 September 2019, 15:22:43
What is the thickness on the plates (in mm)?

1.5mm
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 26 September 2019, 15:24:08
Sorry this may be a stupid question as this is my first GB board. Does the hot swap PCB support 7U, 6.25U or both types of space bar?

Hotswap PCB normally can only support one layout. The layout we chose was the 7u spacebar layout.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 26 September 2019, 15:25:20
Will the teal more or less look like this?

On the bottom case yes I guess.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 26 September 2019, 15:25:59
How much would it cost to get an Alps plate cut? And where could I get it done?

PM me for ALPS questions.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 26 September 2019, 15:27:44
Any chance we can order 1 extra front and back logo in different colors?
It would help when matching different keysets.
Cheers!

No for this GB. You know, this is a GB with 400 million different combinations.  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 26 September 2019, 15:28:33
Will there be any additional details about the pcb, like rgb led support (same as leaf60?) and firmware?

Yes, same with Leaf60 except the layout.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 26 September 2019, 15:30:08

Q: ISO support?
A: Supported by the universal PCB but not by plates. I'll share the plate file before the GB closes.

im pretty new to this hobby but this keyboard looks sick, I need iso. what can i do with the plate files if you release them?
[/quote]

It depends on where you live. You should try to find some local or online laser cutting services like https://lasergist.com. Just order the 1.5mm thick plates.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 26 September 2019, 15:32:30
@senter
For the question
Customize the Key logo on the weight (optional): material-(finish)-color
Option
I didnt order the Key logo top case

The option ought to be “I didnt order the Key logo weight”
Correct?

Yes. And this question is optional. You don't need to choose any options. Even if you choose other options and you ordered the Kanji logo, it doesn't change anything.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 26 September 2019, 15:33:59
He's asking the number, not what difference. I'd like to know too.

That makes more sense, yea would be nice to know.

Speaking of which is there a price difference between the key logo(s) being brass as opposed to not? As per what is written in OP and in the form it appears not but rather get confirmation.


No price differences.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: toanta on Thu, 26 September 2019, 17:03:01
Can the Kanji logo be colored in like the Key logo? I don't see any renders of it, but I see options in the form.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Adelscott on Thu, 26 September 2019, 17:07:16
Are you still releasing ISO plate file before the GB end ?
Is there any option to buy the keeb without the useless (for us)  ANSI plate ? Can't find it in the form :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: cosign_input on Thu, 26 September 2019, 18:32:57
Where will the keyboard be shipped from and when is the deadline for the GB?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Thu, 26 September 2019, 18:37:16
Can the Kanji logo be colored in like the Key logo? I don't see any renders of it, but I see options in the form.

The options are for the key logo. The Kanji is engraved, not a separate piece.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: badboy731 on Thu, 26 September 2019, 19:05:48
Can the Kanji logo be colored in like the Key logo? I don't see any renders of it, but I see options in the form.

The options are for the key logo. The Kanji is engraved, not a separate piece.
AH i see for someone reason I thought it was gonna be in the yellow color as seen in the pictures. So if I just get a PC case it will be engraved within the clear PC?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Thu, 26 September 2019, 19:15:12

AH i see for someone reason I thought it was gonna be in the yellow color as seen in the pictures. So if I just get a PC case it will be engraved within the clear PC?


I assume so, maybe senter can confirm. Not sure how that would look...
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kabocha on Thu, 26 September 2019, 21:10:36
Is the anodizing grey a dark grey or something lighter like kbdfan's tofu space grey?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 26 September 2019, 21:31:42
Can the Kanji logo be colored in like the Key logo? I don't see any renders of it, but I see options in the form.

The Kanji logo is engraved so the only way to get it colored is to use paint.
Afaik some people use acrylic paint.
There was a post teaching how to do it but it's in Chinese.  https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/4245
Here's how the result looks like
(https://i.imgur.com/m6DscOb.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: badboy731 on Thu, 26 September 2019, 22:12:33
Do you have a sample of how it would look engraved in the clear PC?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: mlnr on Fri, 27 September 2019, 00:42:12
overwhelmed by choice
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dannyny on Fri, 27 September 2019, 00:54:58
how many sold the first day of GB?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: muppen on Fri, 27 September 2019, 07:24:53

Q: ISO support?
A: Supported by the universal PCB but not by plates. I'll share the plate file before the GB closes.

im pretty new to this hobby but this keyboard looks sick, I need iso. what can i do with the plate files if you release them?

It depends on where you live. You should try to find some local or online laser cutting services like https://lasergist.com. Just order the 1.5mm thick plates.



will the files you release be iso or just ansi?
[/quote]
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Mechalomania on Fri, 27 September 2019, 11:10:59
Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!

To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom?  It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Adelscott on Fri, 27 September 2019, 11:37:47
Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!

To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom?  It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.
This !
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: chriszhu on Fri, 27 September 2019, 12:05:39
😍
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: chakkii on Fri, 27 September 2019, 12:18:10
Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!

To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom?  It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.

+1
same here, thinking about adding some color for the middle case, but not sure how this will turn out :) So that would be great :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Fri, 27 September 2019, 12:58:58
Do you have a sample of how it would look engraved in the clear PC?

Would like this as well. Has anyone seen this done on a PC board before? I want to know if it would look good before deciding to go with the top right blocker on PC.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: badboy731 on Fri, 27 September 2019, 16:22:39
Do you have a sample of how it would look engraved in the clear PC?

Would like this as well. Has anyone seen this done on a PC board before? I want to know if it would look good before deciding to go with the top right blocker on PC.
im nervous it will look like I took a knife and made some lines. You know like when you scratch plastic? Hoping it be thick enough to show it’s a design
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: spring4k on Fri, 27 September 2019, 17:41:44
Is pcb compatible with tx65? Or is it compatible with other center usb pcb? becuase i want to rgb led
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Fri, 27 September 2019, 18:56:28
im nervous it will look like I took a knife and made some lines. You know like when you scratch plastic? Hoping it be thick enough to show it’s a design

Yeah I'm going with no blocker since I am not sure it will look good even though I'd prefer the blocker
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: badboy731 on Fri, 27 September 2019, 19:09:14
im nervous it will look like I took a knife and made some lines. You know like when you scratch plastic? Hoping it be thick enough to show it’s a design

Yeah I'm going with no blocker since I am not sure it will look good even though I'd prefer the blocker
Yeah I think I will be joining you on that one
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Fri, 27 September 2019, 19:57:30
I am in for WKL hotswap, Full PC case, teal plate, teal weight, with Brass key logos on both sides  :D stoked

Is the hotswap and WKL an option? I was under the impression that the hotswap PCB only supported the 7u spacebar? Does this mean a 1u blocker is an option?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: o3okevin on Fri, 27 September 2019, 21:44:55
I am in for WKL hotswap, Full PC case, teal plate, teal weight, with Brass key logos on both sides  :D stoked

Is the hotswap and WKL an option? I was under the impression that the hotswap PCB only supported the 7u spacebar? Does this mean a 1u blocker is an option?

1u blocker requires a 7u spacebar, hotswap pcb is 7u spacebar only

just don't put a switch in the winkey position so you can use the blocker :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Fri, 27 September 2019, 22:01:32
Any idea what the connector will be for the PCB? Hopefully usb-c?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Fri, 27 September 2019, 22:41:41
Do you have a sample of how it would look engraved in the clear PC?

No
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Fri, 27 September 2019, 22:44:19
Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!

To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom?  It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.

Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!

To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom?  It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.
This !

Sure. I'm working on it. Here's an example. I'll update more when I get time.

(https://i.imgur.com/YtB13AU.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Fri, 27 September 2019, 22:46:12
Is pcb compatible with tx65? Or is it compatible with other center usb pcb? becuase i want to rgb led

I don't think so.
WS2812 LED strips are not that difficult to add.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Fri, 27 September 2019, 22:47:31
Any idea what the connector will be for the PCB? Hopefully usb-c?

USB-C
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Fri, 27 September 2019, 22:49:57
Good news, E-Clear finish has been upgraded.

(https://i.imgur.com/UH7d7pJ.jpg)

We've added an additional process before applying E-Clear so it will look cleaner!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Lil on Sat, 28 September 2019, 01:43:20
Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!

To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom?  It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.

Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!

To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom?  It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.
This !

Sure. I'm working on it. Here's an example. I'll update more when I get time.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/YtB13AU.jpg)

Sick, please dm me, I'd like to pay early

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Vyndem on Sat, 28 September 2019, 03:00:30
Is it possible to see a render/picture of the full PC keyboard (top, middle and bottom case), without the left blocker and with the kanji logo on both top and weight?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Adelscott on Sat, 28 September 2019, 03:03:15
Good news, E-Clear finish has been upgraded.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/UH7d7pJ.jpg)


We've added an additional process before applying E-Clear so it will look cleaner!
Wait you're showing an ISO compatible plate ! Is that the new plate for this GB ?
Edit : nevermind can't be, there's one vertical row missing
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Lisinge on Sat, 28 September 2019, 05:16:13
Hey senter, why doesn’t the universal plate have the relief cuts like the 7u plate?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: holy panda on Sat, 28 September 2019, 06:14:08
How heavy will alu/pc be?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Sat, 28 September 2019, 07:03:11
Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!

To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom?  It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.

Also please take a picture of the sides of one of the prototypes, I want to see how the middle piece looks in regards to the top and bottom so I can decide on a colour, thanks!

To add to this request, would it be possible to take a side pic with the middle piece being a different color than the top and bottom?  It would help determine if I would want to just match it with the top or experiment with the color.
This !

Sure. I'm working on it. Here's an example. I'll update more when I get time.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/YtB13AU.jpg)


Can you provide a pic of the front and sides of the board? I want to know how mixed colors of top and middle case look.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Sat, 28 September 2019, 08:51:46
I'm definitely thinking about joining this GB. Ive been eyeing up a PC board for awhile now. My main question is with the Key Logo in the upper right. If I understand correctly, the actual key logo is a separate piece of aluminum that is inserted into the board. Is the cutting process for this going to be handled well by the poly carbonate making up the board? 
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: TheNamesTy45 on Sat, 28 September 2019, 11:46:55
"I'm done with buying new boards this year."

Well that was a fun thought.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: happycamper87 on Sat, 28 September 2019, 12:11:45
Just realized I didnt receive a copy of the google form I filled out and sent. Now I'm not sure if my submission went through. :-[
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: JacobTN on Sat, 28 September 2019, 12:13:17
Just realized I didnt receive a copy of the google form I filled out and sent. Now I'm not sure if my submission went through. :-[
Send Senter a Msg. The first few orders didnt recieve a confirmation, you'll have to have him reset it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Sat, 28 September 2019, 14:58:55
Sent my order out. This is going to be my first custom build. I'm pretty excited. Went for a mostly white with a bit of black all-aluminium set with the key logo and I'm putting KAT Milkshake on it. :)

Is shipping to Poland going to cost ~$40 too?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: keys on Sat, 28 September 2019, 17:17:53
have any pics of the split spacebar?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sat, 28 September 2019, 19:34:33
I'm definitely thinking about joining this GB. Ive been eyeing up a PC board for awhile now. My main question is with the Key Logo in the upper right. If I understand correctly, the actual key logo is a separate piece of aluminum that is inserted into the board. Is the cutting process for this going to be handled well by the poly carbonate making up the board?

The Key logo is screwed on.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sat, 28 September 2019, 19:36:05
I've added an album in OP with more photos.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sat, 28 September 2019, 19:38:04
have any pics of the split spacebar?

I don't quite understand your question. Do you mean fully assembled keyboard with split spacebar layout and caps on? The answer is no if that's what you asked.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: badboy731 on Sat, 28 September 2019, 20:15:22
Do you have a Picture of pc with kanji in the top right?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: BserLarry on Sat, 28 September 2019, 20:19:52
Hi Senter,

Can you comment on the amount of flex in aluminium and PC plate choice?
Is it indeed noticeable?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: o3okevin on Sat, 28 September 2019, 21:10:01
Really appreciate the attention to all questions Senter!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jooobe on Sat, 28 September 2019, 21:36:41
Nice touch with the album, much clearer view now


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sat, 28 September 2019, 21:40:38
Do you have a Picture of pc with kanji in the top right?

No as we didn't make a prototype like that  :-X
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sat, 28 September 2019, 21:41:42
Hi Senter,

Can you comment on the amount of flex in aluminium and PC plate choice?
Is it indeed noticeable?

Yes, it's noticeable. The sound is noticeably different as well.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Sat, 28 September 2019, 23:13:18
When you get pictures of the hotswap pcb, can you take a pic of both front and back? I'm trying to picture what you mean when you say leds strips can be added later. That said, are underglow smd's absolutely off the table? I saw a prior post where you say they have a high failure rate but a lot of the other high end boards(e6.5 and think6.5) as well as lower end boards have underglow with no obvious issues. I've been intrigued by gasket mount and PC cases so this checks all my marks except the missing underglow.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: iJeeSung on Sun, 29 September 2019, 03:48:32
I'm definitely thinking about joining this GB. Ive been eyeing up a PC board for awhile now. My main question is with the Key Logo in the upper right. If I understand correctly, the actual key logo is a separate piece of aluminum that is inserted into the board. Is the cutting process for this going to be handled well by the poly carbonate making up the board?

The Key logo is screwed on.
So if it’s screwed on that means we could opt in for it and unscrew it to remove it if we wanted too?


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Xantus on Sun, 29 September 2019, 05:04:36
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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Klyback on Sun, 29 September 2019, 05:26:18
Is there midnight green Brass-Electrophoresis plate option?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Omnomnominous on Sun, 29 September 2019, 05:56:36
Is there midnight green Brass-Electrophoresis plate option?

Midnight green is an anodised colour, so I doubt it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SuddenlyDonkey on Sun, 29 September 2019, 09:35:30
Really appreciate the attention to all questions Senter!

seconded!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Sun, 29 September 2019, 09:48:33
I'm definitely thinking about joining this GB. Ive been eyeing up a PC board for awhile now. My main question is with the Key Logo in the upper right. If I understand correctly, the actual key logo is a separate piece of aluminum that is inserted into the board. Is the cutting process for this going to be handled well by the poly carbonate making up the board?

The Key logo is screwed on.
So if it’s screwed on that means we could opt in for it and unscrew it to remove it if we wanted too?


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The blocker will still be there. Just the logo portion is screwed in for a seperate colour.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sun, 29 September 2019, 14:29:42
When you get pictures of the hotswap pcb, can you take a pic of both front and back? I'm trying to picture what you mean when you say leds strips can be added later. That said, are underglow smd's absolutely off the table? I saw a prior post where you say they have a high failure rate but a lot of the other high end boards(e6.5 and think6.5) as well as lower end boards have underglow with no obvious issues. I've been intrigued by gasket mount and PC cases so this checks all my marks except the missing underglow.

Sure. I'll post later when I receive the prototype.

I mean something like this

(http://i.imgur.com/HkAJoUd.jpg)

The difference is that you don't need to solder the wire on the MCU.

Here's a photo of a Leaf 60 PCB.

(https://i.imgur.com/6SNHWRL.jpg)

Can you see the VOG pads? They are for soldering the WS2812 LED strips.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sun, 29 September 2019, 14:30:56
I'm definitely thinking about joining this GB. Ive been eyeing up a PC board for awhile now. My main question is with the Key Logo in the upper right. If I understand correctly, the actual key logo is a separate piece of aluminum that is inserted into the board. Is the cutting process for this going to be handled well by the poly carbonate making up the board?

The Key logo is screwed on.
So if it’s screwed on that means we could opt in for it and unscrew it to remove it if we wanted too?


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If you remove it, there's a slot on the top right.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sun, 29 September 2019, 14:31:31
Is there midnight green Brass-Electrophoresis plate option?

There's no Electrophoresis midnight green option.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: aydio on Sun, 29 September 2019, 14:52:29
When I choose PC plate, Is there anything that speaks against the rubber sheet between the plate and PCB look-wise?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Gumberculese on Sun, 29 September 2019, 15:13:24
Am I looking at the layouts correctly that the hotswap PCB does not support split backspace?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Sun, 29 September 2019, 16:12:12
When you get pictures of the hotswap pcb, can you take a pic of both front and back? I'm trying to picture what you mean when you say leds strips can be added later. That said, are underglow smd's absolutely off the table? I saw a prior post where you say they have a high failure rate but a lot of the other high end boards(e6.5 and think6.5) as well as lower end boards have underglow with no obvious issues. I've been intrigued by gasket mount and PC cases so this checks all my marks except the missing underglow.

Sure. I'll post later when I receive the prototype.

I mean something like this

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/HkAJoUd.jpg)


The difference is that you don't need to solder the wire on the MCU.

Here's a photo of a Leaf 60 PCB.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/6SNHWRL.jpg)


Can you see the VOG pads? They are for soldering the WS2812 LED strips.

Got it, so looks like it'll be simple but a bit ghetto looking compared to presoldered smds. Totally understand tho, thanks for the reply!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Sun, 29 September 2019, 18:54:46
Am I looking at the layouts correctly that the hotswap PCB does not support split backspace?
I'm pretty sure the sockets would interfere with the mounting holes if they were to accommodate both layouts. They had to go with either one of them and they chose full backspace.
Title: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jooobe on Sun, 29 September 2019, 20:31:10
You got a fully built one with sound clips? Maybe send one to taehatypes


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: iJeeSung on Sun, 29 September 2019, 20:32:13
You got a fully built one yet and sound clips? Maybe send one to taehatypes


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That man can even make a Tofu sound amazing.


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jooobe on Sun, 29 September 2019, 20:34:25
I’m fighting the urge to buy right now, spent a lot of money this past two and a half weeks


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sun, 29 September 2019, 21:49:50
(https://i.imgur.com/lQ9gOrB.jpg)

The hotswap prototype PCB is finished as well. Will test it later.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sun, 29 September 2019, 21:56:01
When I choose PC plate, Is there anything that speaks against the rubber sheet between the plate and PCB look-wise?

I haven't decided yet on the exact material of the sheet. The original plan was to use some kinds of foams. It turned out to be very difficult to cut the foams precisely. Laser doesn't work well on most foam materials. My last choice is clear rubber sheets which will work without problems.

The optional sheet will change how the plate looks when you use PC plates.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sun, 29 September 2019, 21:57:26
Am I looking at the layouts correctly that the hotswap PCB does not support split backspace?

Am I looking at the layouts correctly that the hotswap PCB does not support split backspace?
I'm pretty sure the sockets would interfere with the mounting holes if they were to accommodate both layouts. They had to go with either one of them and they chose full backspace.

This. The split-spacebar can only be either 6.25u or 7u, not both. We chose 6.25u.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Sun, 29 September 2019, 23:01:48
I can't decide on the top and middle case colors. Should I go for Teal/Teal or Teal/Black?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Sun, 29 September 2019, 23:57:32
Am I looking at the layouts correctly that the hotswap PCB does not support split backspace?

Am I looking at the layouts correctly that the hotswap PCB does not support split backspace?
I'm pretty sure the sockets would interfere with the mounting holes if they were to accommodate both layouts. They had to go with either one of them and they chose full backspace.

This. The split-spacebar can only be either 6.25u or 7u, not both. We chose 6.25u.
Additionally this means that you cannot have a split spacebar and wkl top, due to the wkl top not supporting 6.25u spacebar.


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SlamMakanen on Mon, 30 September 2019, 10:30:45
Am I being totally blind?? I cannot find the order link
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Lil on Mon, 30 September 2019, 10:40:15
Am I being totally blind?? I cannot find the order link
It's a Google form, then the gb runner invoices you for your order via email

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SlamMakanen on Mon, 30 September 2019, 11:00:07
Am I being totally blind?? I cannot find the order link
It's a Google form, then the gb runner invoices you for your order via email

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Awesome. Can't find that either though....


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Mon, 30 September 2019, 11:40:54
Am I being totally blind?? I cannot find the order link
It's a Google form, then the gb runner invoices you for your order via email

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Awesome. Can't find that either though....


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It's immediately under the photos. Look for "Google form for placing orders"
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: nicx on Mon, 30 September 2019, 18:03:56
In for a board for sure, but would love to see a PC top with the Kanji logo. Any hope to see an example before hand? Like others have said, I would love to have that option but only if it looks good and not look janky.

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Topernicus on Mon, 30 September 2019, 18:07:20
I have a couple questions...

First, have you had a chance to weigh the weights?
I'm curious about the weight difference between brass/aluminum, although the lack of a space grey brass option might make that a moot point.

Second, if we make multiple orders, will they be shipped together?
Just wondering if I'll be paying shipping twice if I order two boards, or if they can be combined to save on shipping costs.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: TonyPia on Mon, 30 September 2019, 18:29:24
Couple questions.
1. No lighting (per key/underglow) on Hotswap and Solder PCB?
2. If there is or if I add light, does the light come out through the middle case if I opt in PC middle and alu top/bottom?
3. No Bluetooth?
4. Support Screw In PCB mount stabs?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Mon, 30 September 2019, 19:02:49
In for a board for sure, but would love to see a PC top with the Kanji logo. Any hope to see an example before hand? Like others have said, I would love to have that option but only if it looks good and not look janky.

No. We're not gonna make more prototypes before GB closes.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Mon, 30 September 2019, 19:08:24
I have a couple questions...

First, have you had a chance to weigh the weights?
I'm curious about the weight difference between brass/aluminum, although the lack of a space grey brass option might make that a moot point.

Second, if we make multiple orders, will they be shipped together?
Just wondering if I'll be paying shipping twice if I order two boards, or if they can be combined to save on shipping costs.


The weight difference between aluminum and brass weights is 264g/0.58lb.
Yes, they can be shipped together. The shipping fee depends on the total weight. Combined shipping can save a little but not half.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Mon, 30 September 2019, 19:10:53
Couple questions.
1. No lighting (per key/underglow) on Hotswap and Solder PCB?
2. If there is or if I add light, does the light come out through the middle case if I opt in PC middle and alu top/bottom?
3. No Bluetooth?
4. Support Screw In PCB mount stabs?

1. Per key backlight is supported
2. No
3. No
4. Yes
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Mon, 30 September 2019, 19:15:42
I will send out the first batch of invoices today.
If you've received the email, you're in this batch.
The edit after submit function is temporary off.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: nicx on Mon, 30 September 2019, 19:53:21
In for a board for sure, but would love to see a PC top with the Kanji logo. Any hope to see an example before hand? Like others have said, I would love to have that option but only if it looks good and not look janky.

No. We're not gonna make more prototypes before GB closes.

Dang, what about for the factory maybe doing an example on a small piece of PC with engraving on it just to get an idea? I just can't remember the last time i've seen PC with engraving in it. If not its no biggie, i'll probably order it anyways and cross my fingers.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: TonyPia on Mon, 30 September 2019, 19:54:24
Couple questions.
1. No lighting (per key/underglow) on Hotswap and Solder PCB?
2. If there is or if I add light, does the light come out through the middle case if I opt in PC middle and alu top/bottom?
3. No Bluetooth?
4. Support Screw In PCB mount stabs?

1. Per key backlight is supported
2. No
3. No
4. Yes

Thanks for the quick response.
1. Per key backlight supported? Does it mean I need to install and it doesn't come out of the box?
2. So the only way to see the light through the case is to have the PC bottom?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Mon, 30 September 2019, 20:24:08
In for a board for sure, but would love to see a PC top with the Kanji logo. Any hope to see an example before hand? Like others have said, I would love to have that option but only if it looks good and not look janky.

No. We're not gonna make more prototypes before GB closes.

Dang, what about for the factory maybe doing an example on a small piece of PC with engraving on it just to get an idea? I just can't remember the last time i've seen PC with engraving in it. If not its no biggie, i'll probably order it anyways and cross my fingers.

Unfortunately no chance. It doesn't matter how large the part we order. That's not how the factory works.
The factories work for much larger orders in most of the time. We order prototypes only when they're willing to.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Wobafet on Mon, 30 September 2019, 20:54:49
Once the GB ends is it possible to put all the orders into a google docs/excel sheet so it can be quicker to check our order status?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cloudz on Mon, 30 September 2019, 21:02:18
Can I use the 7u spacebar version plate for a universal pcb to do a 7u split backspace layout? Some pics show a dedicated backspace cutout and the plate layout picture shows an open cutout for the backspace so wasn't sure.

1. https://imgur.com/WR1gW3B

2. https://i.imgur.com/ByWUlIO.jpg

Hoping for it to be like picture 2 so I can do a wkl 7u bottom row with split backspace layout.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Topernicus on Mon, 30 September 2019, 21:33:20
I have a couple questions...

First, have you had a chance to weigh the weights?
I'm curious about the weight difference between brass/aluminum, although the lack of a space grey brass option might make that a moot point.

Second, if we make multiple orders, will they be shipped together?
Just wondering if I'll be paying shipping twice if I order two boards, or if they can be combined to save on shipping costs.


The weight difference between aluminum and brass weights is 264g/0.58lb.
Yes, they can be shipped together. The shipping fee depends on the total weight. Combined shipping can save a little but not half.

Cool, thanks for the info.  I don't think just over a half pound difference will make me sad about going with aluminum to get the color choice I want.

How should we arrange for combined shipping? Or am I getting ahead of myself here?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: sapphyr on Mon, 30 September 2019, 22:59:50

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1BxzXKQ.jpg)


will have the hotswap version on Sunday.

also, is it possible to not have silk screen around stabilizer holes, so don't need to use nylon washers etc., to not short the keyboard when using GMK screw-in stabs?

thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Mon, 30 September 2019, 23:19:14
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/lQ9gOrB.jpg)


The hotswap prototype PCB is finished as well. Will test it later.
is it going to be kailh sockets?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: badboy731 on Tue, 01 October 2019, 01:07:14
In for a board for sure, but would love to see a PC top with the Kanji logo. Any hope to see an example before hand? Like others have said, I would love to have that option but only if it looks good and not look janky.

No. We're not gonna make more prototypes before GB closes.

Dang, what about for the factory maybe doing an example on a small piece of PC with engraving on it just to get an idea? I just can't remember the last time i've seen PC with engraving in it. If not its no biggie, i'll probably order it anyways and cross my fingers.
yeah idk now.  I wanted the pc case with the top kanji logo so bad..I’m just hesitant about buying things and not knowing what it looks like.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Jaystice on Tue, 01 October 2019, 05:33:03
Hell yeah, first group buy. I’m hyped.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 01 October 2019, 08:42:22
Once the GB ends is it possible to put all the orders into a google docs/excel sheet so it can be quicker to check our order status?

I can do that if most people think it's necessary. Everyone except the first 40 should have the order information in their email inboxes. Posting the spreadsheet means publishing everyone's email address and I don't feel right about that.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 01 October 2019, 08:46:10
Can I use the 7u spacebar version plate for a universal pcb to do a 7u split backspace layout? Some pics show a dedicated backspace cutout and the plate layout picture shows an open cutout for the backspace so wasn't sure.

1. https://imgur.com/WR1gW3B

2. https://i.imgur.com/ByWUlIO.jpg

Hoping for it to be like picture 2 so I can do a wkl 7u bottom row with split backspace layout.

It's like pic 2. The open cutout supports both split and non-split BS.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 01 October 2019, 08:47:17
I have a couple questions...

First, have you had a chance to weigh the weights?
I'm curious about the weight difference between brass/aluminum, although the lack of a space grey brass option might make that a moot point.

Second, if we make multiple orders, will they be shipped together?
Just wondering if I'll be paying shipping twice if I order two boards, or if they can be combined to save on shipping costs.


The weight difference between aluminum and brass weights is 264g/0.58lb.
Yes, they can be shipped together. The shipping fee depends on the total weight. Combined shipping can save a little but not half.

Cool, thanks for the info.  I don't think just over a half pound difference will make me sad about going with aluminum to get the color choice I want.

How should we arrange for combined shipping? Or am I getting ahead of myself here?

Packages will be automatically combined for the same shipping address.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 01 October 2019, 08:48:36

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1BxzXKQ.jpg)


will have the hotswap version on Sunday.

also, is it possible to not have silk screen around stabilizer holes, so don't need to use nylon washers etc., to not short the keyboard when using GMK screw-in stabs?

thanks

The stablizer holes are not grounded if that's what you ask. It won't short the keyboard even if it's grounded and you use screw-in stabs.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 01 October 2019, 08:49:12
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/lQ9gOrB.jpg)


The hotswap prototype PCB is finished as well. Will test it later.
is it going to be kailh sockets?

Yes
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kohsta on Tue, 01 October 2019, 10:14:41
Payment all made, bring on the excitement  :p
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Tue, 01 October 2019, 10:30:20
Payment all made, bring on the excitement  :p

When did you get your invoice? I received the first email, but not the invoice.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Tue, 01 October 2019, 10:32:59
Payment all made, bring on the excitement  :p

When did you get your invoice? I received the first email, but not the invoice.

By first email do you mean the google form info? Other than that I didn't receive anything.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: muppen on Tue, 01 October 2019, 10:33:42
will the plate files you release be iso or just ansi?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: bananafritters on Tue, 01 October 2019, 10:35:48
Once the GB ends is it possible to put all the orders into a google docs/excel sheet so it can be quicker to check our order status?

I can do that if most people think it's necessary. Everyone except the first 40 should have the order information in their email inboxes. Posting the spreadsheet means publishing everyone's email address and I don't feel right about that.

I like the spreadsheet idea. But we can replace email with invoice number
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Tue, 01 October 2019, 10:42:48
Once the GB ends is it possible to put all the orders into a google docs/excel sheet so it can be quicker to check our order status?

I can do that if most people think it's necessary. Everyone except the first 40 should have the order information in their email inboxes. Posting the spreadsheet means publishing everyone's email address and I don't feel right about that.

It's useful to know if they are the latest updated form on your end.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Tue, 01 October 2019, 11:19:28
By first email do you mean the google form info? Other than that I didn't receive anything.

The follow up from senter saying invoices will be sent for first 200
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: KumaPe on Tue, 01 October 2019, 11:24:32
I'm intending to go with polycarb top and mid but i never have any experience with this material before. Is there anything I should look at when handling this material? I also heard it tends to attract dust, any advice with that also?
Thanks a lot  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Tue, 01 October 2019, 11:36:19
By first email do you mean the google form info? Other than that I didn't receive anything.

The follow up from senter saying invoices will be sent for first 200

Huh, haven't received that kind of email yet. Senter, can you please check my order?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Wobafet on Tue, 01 October 2019, 11:51:37
Once the GB ends is it possible to put all the orders into a google docs/excel sheet so it can be quicker to check our order status?

I can do that if most people think it's necessary. Everyone except the first 40 should have the order information in their email inboxes. Posting the spreadsheet means publishing everyone's email address and I don't feel right about that.

I like the spreadsheet idea. But we can replace email with invoice number

Once the GB ends is it possible to put all the orders into a google docs/excel sheet so it can be quicker to check our order status?

I can do that if most people think it's necessary. Everyone except the first 40 should have the order information in their email inboxes. Posting the spreadsheet means publishing everyone's email address and I don't feel right about that.

I like the spreadsheet idea. But we can replace email with invoice number

I agree with hiding the emails and putting the invoice numbers given! Would really like this for convenience
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: happycamper87 on Tue, 01 October 2019, 12:09:28
Invoiced and paid!

Shipping when
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: switchnollie on Tue, 01 October 2019, 12:43:39
What does the text on the weight say? 🤨
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: happycamper87 on Tue, 01 October 2019, 13:15:00
What does the text on the weight say? 🤨

Kanji/Chinese for "Key"
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Xantus on Tue, 01 October 2019, 13:16:43
What happens if there is going to be a delay at manufacturing and the boards will not come in the desired state? Afaik Paypal protection lasts only about 6 months.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: nu_types on Tue, 01 October 2019, 14:06:29
What happens if there is going to be a delay at manufacturing and the boards will not come in the desired state? Afaik Paypal protection lasts only about 6 months.

I've seen people ask for refunds and to be re-invoiced in those situations.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: infamousvincci on Tue, 01 October 2019, 14:25:29
What happens if there is going to be a delay at manufacturing and the boards will not come in the desired state? Afaik Paypal protection lasts only about 6 months.

I've seen people ask for refunds and to be re-invoiced in those situations.

Hopefully it doesnt reach that stage.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Quasimodo on Tue, 01 October 2019, 14:37:27
Super interested in joining this, as my first ever mechanical keyboard :)
If I'm buying from the UK, are there any weird fees I should be aware of? I know of import duties, but is there anything else that might suddenly increase the price considerably?
Does the $295 include VAT? Also, could those import duties be 'avoided' with some slight mislabeled parcel values?
Also very new to keyboards, so very unknowledgeable about most things. I've seen mentions of per-key backlighting. What actually is this? Is this just when you have switches with integrated LEDs?

Really excited to maybe join this GB, if only I can decide what combination I want >:D

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Lil on Tue, 01 October 2019, 15:01:40
Super interested in joining this, as my first ever mechanical keyboard :)
If I'm buying from the UK, are there any weird fees I should be aware of? I know of import duties, but is there anything else that might suddenly increase the price considerably?
Does the $295 include VAT? Also, could those import duties be 'avoided' with some slight mislabeled parcel values?
Also very new to keyboards, so very unknowledgeable about most things. I've seen mentions of per-key backlighting. What actually is this? Is this just when you have switches with integrated LEDs?

Really excited to maybe join this GB, if only I can decide what combination I want >:D

I wouldn't think it would include VAT, so that would probably be charged by customs along with the import duties.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Tue, 01 October 2019, 15:52:28
If I'm buying from the UK, are there any weird fees I should be aware of? I know of import duties, but is there anything else that might suddenly increase the price considerably?
Does the $295 include VAT?
It doesn't include VAT, since it's shipping worldwide and every country has different VAT rates. You may be invoiced by customs to pay VAT and any other fees before the package is released.

Also, could those import duties be 'avoided' with some slight mislabeled parcel values?
Probably. This isn't an off the shelf product, whose price can be easily confirmed. But if your customs officers are clever they will find the real value and you may get fined for messing around.

Also very new to keyboards, so very unknowledgeable about most things. I've seen mentions of per-key backlighting. What actually is this? Is this just when you have switches with integrated LEDs?
I haven't yet seen any switches with integrated LEDs, but most of them have a little slot for LED mounting. You can pick up LEDs of your preferred color, nest them in the switches and solder them to the PCB. That's what "per-key backlighting" usually means: that the PCB supports installing individual LEDs. There are also PCBs that instead have SMD (Surface Mounted Device) RGB LEDs already pre-soldered where the keys would be. They can shine through switches if the switches have clear housings, providing you with a full RGB backlighting without the need to solder the LEDs. One example of such a PCB would be the Zeal60.

The photos of the PCB provided by senter show that it has LED mounting points, but no pre-installed SMD LEDs. Of course, if it did have SMD LEDs it would probably be underlined heavily in the GB thread, since it's an expensive and sometimes sought-after feature.

Really excited to maybe join this GB, if only I can decide what combination I want >:D
There's already over 200 orders for this board. I don't think Fox Labs said there's going to be a limit on the production, but waiting too long might push you to the very end of the queue and a very long wait.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: chozn1 on Tue, 01 October 2019, 15:57:17
Do you have a sample of how it would look engraved in the clear PC?

No

I’m assuming since you guys are offering this as an option that the factory is aware and capable of producing it? Seems like it would be really cool but don’t think I’ve ever seen something like this done on PC before.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Tue, 01 October 2019, 16:54:38
Yay! Got invoiced. Paid and patiently waiting. :) Hope everyone put in their PayPal emails in the order form. If not, check your email - senter wants you to contact them to sort it out.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Soraie on Tue, 01 October 2019, 16:56:20
Yay! Got invoiced. Paid and patiently waiting. :) Hope everyone put in their PayPal emails in the order form. If not, check your email - senter wants you to contact them to sort it out.

Patiently waiting for that invoice!! Can't wait
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Tue, 01 October 2019, 17:31:54
Paid!

Officially in, Shipping will be hopefully at a good time; and then customs... oh yeah custom fees... they gonna hurt. D:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Quasimodo on Tue, 01 October 2019, 17:38:15
If I'm buying from the UK, are there any weird fees I should be aware of? I know of import duties, but is there anything else that might suddenly increase the price considerably?
Does the $295 include VAT?
It doesn't include VAT, since it's shipping worldwide and every country has different VAT rates. You may be invoiced by customs to pay VAT and any other fees before the package is released.

Also, could those import duties be 'avoided' with some slight mislabeled parcel values?
Probably. This isn't an off the shelf product, whose price can be easily confirmed. But if your customs officers are clever they will find the real value and you may get fined for messing around.

Also very new to keyboards, so very unknowledgeable about most things. I've seen mentions of per-key backlighting. What actually is this? Is this just when you have switches with integrated LEDs?
I haven't yet seen any switches with integrated LEDs, but most of them have a little slot for LED mounting. You can pick up LEDs of your preferred color, nest them in the switches and solder them to the PCB. That's what "per-key backlighting" usually means: that the PCB supports installing individual LEDs. There are also PCBs that instead have SMD (Surface Mounted Device) RGB LEDs already pre-soldered where the keys would be. They can shine through switches if the switches have clear housings, providing you with a full RGB backlighting without the need to solder the LEDs. One example of such a PCB would be the Zeal60.

The photos of the PCB provided by senter show that it has LED mounting points, but no pre-installed SMD LEDs. Of course, if it did have SMD LEDs it would probably be underlined heavily in the GB thread, since it's an expensive and sometimes sought-after feature.

Really excited to maybe join this GB, if only I can decide what combination I want >:D
There's already over 200 orders for this board. I don't think Fox Labs said there's going to be a limit on the production, but waiting too long might push you to the very end of the queue and a very long wait.


Thanks so much for the thorough response :) Super glad that per-key lighting is just soldering in a single LED. I was worried I'd be limited to the switches with integrated LEDs, because I saw something about an MX RGB switch. If it just means adding an LED, thats perfect. Might need to buy a slightly better soldering iron, than my £10 amazon thing :P
I'll definitely try to have the value under-declared, as it would save me around £80 in fees. I've had it done plenty of times buying expensive flashlights, which are much easier to backtrack and price check, so I'm not too concerned about any problems there :D
I'm also not too fussed about waiting ages. I'm only gonna be home for a couple months, then I'm away for half a year, so won't be able to assemble it anyways. That being said, I'll probably order it some time tomorrow. I'm currently making a crappy mockup in blender, so I can colour the different parts, to get an idea of how different colours will work together :)

Thanks again for all the info <3
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Quasimodo on Tue, 01 October 2019, 17:52:28
Oh snap I had another question. The plate is 1.5mm, but if I were to make my own ISO layout plate, could I make it a bunch thicker, like 3-4mm? Would it still fit together, if I got some longer screws, or would it just ruin everything.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Tue, 01 October 2019, 18:14:16
Looking forward to receiving my invoice, gonna have to wait till payday tho
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: nicx on Tue, 01 October 2019, 19:12:38
Are there any pics of a solid color bottom/middle with a PC top? Coulda sworn I saw that somewhere before the GB started..

edit - nvm I found them.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 01 October 2019, 19:17:29
will the plate files you release be iso or just ansi?

Both
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 01 October 2019, 19:18:20
Once the GB ends is it possible to put all the orders into a google docs/excel sheet so it can be quicker to check our order status?

I can do that if most people think it's necessary. Everyone except the first 40 should have the order information in their email inboxes. Posting the spreadsheet means publishing everyone's email address and I don't feel right about that.

I like the spreadsheet idea. But we can replace email with invoice number

That's a good idea. Will do.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 01 October 2019, 19:24:10
What happens if there is going to be a delay at manufacturing and the boards will not come in the desired state? Afaik Paypal protection lasts only about 6 months.

We'll refund first.
The longest lead time we've ever reached was around 3 months. I don't think it will be longer than 6 months this time.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: karmbit klacks on Tue, 01 October 2019, 20:59:21
Do you guys have a discord that I can join?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: 112227 on Tue, 01 October 2019, 21:22:16
anyone plan on getting pom middle with alu top/bottom?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vi0till on Tue, 01 October 2019, 21:35:12
anyone plan on getting pom middle with alu top/bottom?
I was thinking to get top and middle PC, with Alu bottom.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 01 October 2019, 21:47:44
Do you have a sample of how it would look engraved in the clear PC?

No

I’m assuming since you guys are offering this as an option that the factory is aware and capable of producing it? Seems like it would be really cool but don’t think I’ve ever seen something like this done on PC before.

Yes, the factory confirmed it's not an issue manufacturing it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 01 October 2019, 21:48:35
Do you guys have a discord that I can join?

We had one. I had to delete it for some reason.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 01 October 2019, 21:52:11
Order information of the first batch invoices:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ke59MgAsZ6ndgRrGKoOHbbexn5sZshrAS9p2pbRq0U0
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SpaceCowboy on Wed, 02 October 2019, 00:19:27
About to sign up for my first GB board...!!
One question - will the LED from the hotswap pcb shine through a PC clear bottom piece?

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: shokwaav on Wed, 02 October 2019, 03:37:22
I can't seem to edit my submission.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olazy on Wed, 02 October 2019, 09:35:22
About to sign up for my first GB board...!!
One question - will the LED from the hotswap pcb shine through a PC clear bottom piece?

pretty sure both pcbs will not come with any leds, you'll have to add your own but it should shine through.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Wed, 02 October 2019, 10:08:11
I can't seem to edit my submission.
I think senter mentioned that editing will be disabled while invoices are being sent out. Maybe try contacting them via the groupbuy email.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: victorpre on Wed, 02 October 2019, 10:58:20
Hey senter, I accidentally submitted the form with the wrong email (not my paypal one).. Is there any way to change it?   :-[
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Lil on Wed, 02 October 2019, 11:19:09
Hey senter, I accidentally submitted the form with the wrong email (not my paypal one).. Is there any way to change it?   :-[

Email him and he will resend invoice
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: xchangmanx on Wed, 02 October 2019, 12:23:29
Order information of the first batch invoices:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ke59MgAsZ6ndgRrGKoOHbbexn5sZshrAS9p2pbRq0U0

Does the order number match the invoice number in paypal?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: infamousvincci on Wed, 02 October 2019, 13:05:38
Order information of the first batch invoices:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ke59MgAsZ6ndgRrGKoOHbbexn5sZshrAS9p2pbRq0U0

Does the order number match the invoice number in paypal?
Yes

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Quasimodo on Wed, 02 October 2019, 13:06:50
I didn't think it would happen, but I goofed. I've made the wrong choice. How would I go about altering my choice?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: nicx on Wed, 02 October 2019, 13:20:12
About to sign up for my first GB board...!!
One question - will the LED from the hotswap pcb shine through a PC clear bottom piece?

pretty sure both pcbs will not come with any leds, you'll have to add your own but it should shine through.

This is the only thing about this guy that has me hesitant. Always have wanted a PC board but really wish it had underglow.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Wed, 02 October 2019, 13:22:02
This is the only thing about this guy that has me hesitant. Always have wanted a PC board but really wish it had underglow.

I wish it did as well, but I think it's still worth it without it. It also has pinouts for a LED Strip, but I'm not sure I want to add that myself.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: nicx on Wed, 02 October 2019, 15:09:38
This is the only thing about this guy that has me hesitant. Always have wanted a PC board but really wish it had underglow.

I wish it did as well, but I think it's still worth it without it. It also has pinouts for a LED Strip, but I'm not sure I want to add that myself.

Oops I meant buy* not “guy” lol.

Yeah I was thinking about adding the strip too but I was going with the hotswap pcb  so I wouldnt haven’t to do that kinda stuff :/
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Passed_Due_Pear on Wed, 02 October 2019, 21:56:04
Wanna edit my form as well :')
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Wed, 02 October 2019, 22:55:27
Last 3 questions then I think I'm ready to order :)
1. Aluminum weight with key logo - Does 'Brass-Electrophoresis-Clear key logo' cost extra? In the OP I only see a note about the brass weight being extra.
2. The key logo on the weight is inset? It's screwed into the weight? Is there a chance we'll have to modify the key logo(sand) to fit into the inset hole?
3. Will the case screws provided be the gold colored ones in the pics?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Efun on Thu, 03 October 2019, 00:10:21
Just ordered 2, hotswap wkl black with pink accents and bottom case, brass weight, and titanium plate and hotswap wk pc with brass everything. Just waiting on invoice  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: snoofy on Thu, 03 October 2019, 00:20:30
I received the first email, but not the invoice.

How can i receive the invoice?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jimboytacos on Thu, 03 October 2019, 01:13:41
Hi, do you have any non-rendered photos of the keyboard of the side profile, the back etc? Different angles besides a birds eye?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Mithra on Thu, 03 October 2019, 01:26:15
Hi, do you have any non-rendered photos of the keyboard of the side profile, the back etc? Different angles besides a birds eye?

check at the very bottom of the main post for an imgur album! Has a couple photos, mostly side profile and one from the back
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Mithra on Thu, 03 October 2019, 01:28:48
I received the first email, but not the invoice.

How can i receive the invoice?
i believe the first batch of invoices were sent out to the first 200 orders, all to do now is wait
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prangano on Thu, 03 October 2019, 02:47:43
Just ordered a full PC with pink accent kit. This will be my first kit. I am excited.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kenny20x2 on Thu, 03 October 2019, 04:08:21
How do i pay for this?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Thu, 03 October 2019, 05:36:50
How do i pay for this?
Fill out the form from the first post and make sure to use an email address that's connected to your PayPal account. Once your order is processed, you will be invoiced on PayPal (you will receive an email from PP and senter). Pay the invoiced amount via PayPal. That's it. It will provide you with 6 months of buyer protection.

Also, once your keyboard kit is ready to ship, you will be invoiced once more to cover the shipping costs. These will vary based on the weight and size of your order and the destination, but senter said it should be around $40.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DaneOne on Thu, 03 October 2019, 07:39:25
Is the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Winster on Thu, 03 October 2019, 07:42:41
The zillion colour combinations are making it difficult to decide.  An you please advise if a POM and E-coat combo would be give decent sound character to the board. Which of the two is better of being the top case, POM on top or E coat on top? Which would anyone reckon gives a better thock?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Mithra on Thu, 03 October 2019, 09:30:03
i’ve realized i’ve put the wrong email, should i wait for edits to open up again or email/pm to fix it?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Thu, 03 October 2019, 10:48:18
i’ve realized i’ve put the wrong email, should i wait for edits to open up again or email/pm to fix it?

Just send an email or PM. There was an email sent a couple days ago asking for people to get that corrected if they didn't use their paypal email.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Thu, 03 October 2019, 13:03:56
i’ve realized i’ve put the wrong email, should i wait for edits to open up again or email/pm to fix it?

Just send an email or PM. There was an email sent a couple days ago asking for people to get that corrected if they didn't use their paypal email.
oh we have to use the email that is linked to our paypal account?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Thu, 03 October 2019, 13:26:26
i’ve realized i’ve put the wrong email, should i wait for edits to open up again or email/pm to fix it?

Just send an email or PM. There was an email sent a couple days ago asking for people to get that corrected if they didn't use their paypal email.
oh we have to use the email that is linked to our paypal account?

Yes. That is how the invoices are sent out.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Willtham on Thu, 03 October 2019, 14:28:16
So when do I expect to see a Invoice in my email?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: karmbit klacks on Thu, 03 October 2019, 14:46:58
Has the second batch of invoice emails been sent out yet? I sent my google from in on Tuesday of this week but I was looking through the thread and swa that some people haven't received their while others have.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Thu, 03 October 2019, 15:14:37
Has the second batch of invoice emails been sent out yet? I sent my google from in on Tuesday of this week but I was looking through the thread and swa that some people haven't received their while others have.

Only the first 200 have been sent I believe.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Xantus on Thu, 03 October 2019, 16:31:14
Who is going to review the prototype?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 03 October 2019, 16:48:31
About to sign up for my first GB board...!!
One question - will the LED from the hotswap pcb shine through a PC clear bottom piece?

pretty sure both pcbs will not come with any leds, you'll have to add your own but it should shine through.

About to sign up for my first GB board...!!
One question - will the LED from the hotswap pcb shine through a PC clear bottom piece?



The LEDs on the hotswapable PCB are pre-soldered. They are for the per key backlight tho, not for bottom shine through.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 03 October 2019, 16:52:37
Last 3 questions then I think I'm ready to order :)
1. Aluminum weight with key logo - Does 'Brass-Electrophoresis-Clear key logo' cost extra? In the OP I only see a note about the brass weight being extra.
2. The key logo on the weight is inset? It's screwed into the weight? Is there a chance we'll have to modify the key logo(sand) to fit into the inset hole?
3. Will the case screws provided be the gold colored ones in the pics?

Thanks!

1. No
2. Yes, it's an insert. No, you don't need to mod it.
3. It hasn't been decided yet. For aluminum kits, the gold screws are pretty good. I've found black residuals if the scews are used in the PC kits. You can see the black residuals outside of the case. That bothers me. I'm looking for other screws that will look cleaner on PC cases.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 03 October 2019, 16:53:57
I received the first email, but not the invoice.

How can i receive the invoice?

Invoices will go out in batches.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 03 October 2019, 16:55:22
Is the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?

Yes, QMK.
SMD LEDs are pre-soldered on hotswap PCBs. They are not RGB tho.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: nicx on Thu, 03 October 2019, 17:21:55
About to sign up for my first GB board...!!
One question - will the LED from the hotswap pcb shine through a PC clear bottom piece?

pretty sure both pcbs will not come with any leds, you'll have to add your own but it should shine through.

About to sign up for my first GB board...!!
One question - will the LED from the hotswap pcb shine through a PC clear bottom piece?



The LEDs on the hotswapable PCB are pre-soldered. They are for the per key backlight tho, not for bottom shine through.

oh damn, so if I ordered a PC top with a hotswap PCB and turned the LEDs on im assuming we would be able to slightly seem some shine through?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: infamousvincci on Thu, 03 October 2019, 18:30:17
About to sign up for my first GB board...!!
One question - will the LED from the hotswap pcb shine through a PC clear bottom piece?

pretty sure both pcbs will not come with any leds, you'll have to add your own but it should shine through.

About to sign up for my first GB board...!!
One question - will the LED from the hotswap pcb shine through a PC clear bottom piece?



The LEDs on the hotswapable PCB are pre-soldered. They are for the per key backlight tho, not for bottom shine through.

oh damn, so if I ordered a PC top with a hotswap PCB and turned the LEDs on im assuming we would be able to slightly seem some shine through?
Theoretically yes.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ele7087 on Thu, 03 October 2019, 19:46:03
Is the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?

Yes, QMK.
SMD LEDs are pre-soldered on hotswap PCBs. They are not RGB tho.

I was wondering what you mean by not RGB. What colour will the LEDs be?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: tablez on Thu, 03 October 2019, 20:56:42
I am little confused on the WKL logo vs the WK logo. If I get a 6.25u layout, does that mean I need to get the WK logo?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: tablez on Thu, 03 October 2019, 20:59:21
The logo on the weight can only be seen if the keyboard is turned upside down right? (even if it is PC clear)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prototype26 on Thu, 03 October 2019, 21:22:23
The logo on the weight can only be seen if the keyboard is turned upside down right? (even if it is PC clear)

If you're superman and have x ray vision to see through your caps, switches and pcb then maybe.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Wheep on Fri, 04 October 2019, 03:04:21
Super hyped to start my first build! Will the hotswap pcb work with 7u space bar + wk top plate?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ComebaX on Fri, 04 October 2019, 04:39:32
Decided to keep it simple and went with the aluminum Space Grey. Needed a board to match with GMK Dracula!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Quasimodo on Fri, 04 October 2019, 05:20:17
The logo on the weight can only be seen if the keyboard is turned upside down right? (even if it is PC clear)

Yup, it's on the bottom.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Fri, 04 October 2019, 10:48:41
Is the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?

Yes, QMK.
SMD LEDs are pre-soldered on hotswap PCBs. They are not RGB tho.

what colour are the per key lighting leds if they are not RGB?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: JacobTN on Fri, 04 October 2019, 10:50:02
Is the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?

Yes, QMK.
SMD LEDs are pre-soldered on hotswap PCBs. They are not RGB tho.

what colour are the per key lighting leds if they are not RGB?

I would assume just a white light?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Fri, 04 October 2019, 14:11:42
Is the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?

Yes, QMK.
SMD LEDs are pre-soldered on hotswap PCBs. They are not RGB tho.

I was wondering what you mean by not RGB. What colour will the LEDs be?

White
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Fri, 04 October 2019, 14:12:22
The logo on the weight can only be seen if the keyboard is turned upside down right? (even if it is PC clear)

Yes
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Fri, 04 October 2019, 14:12:46
Super hyped to start my first build! Will the hotswap pcb work with 7u space bar + wk top plate?

Yes.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jadverkko on Fri, 04 October 2019, 14:27:59
Is there something wrong with form atm? I tried editing my order but all i get is: "There was a problem submitting your response"
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Aox on Fri, 04 October 2019, 17:13:30
On the key logo version, where would the FN key be?  I know it's assignable, but is there a default location?

EDIT: Specifically for WKL
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Little4Real on Fri, 04 October 2019, 17:17:46
On the key logo version, where would the FN key be?  I know it's assignable, but is there a default location?

EDIT: Specifically for WKL

Caps Lock
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Aox on Fri, 04 October 2019, 17:27:54
On the key logo version, where would the FN key be?  I know it's assignable, but is there a default location?

EDIT: Specifically for WKL

Caps Lock

That's... fantastic!  Thanks for the reply.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kurple on Fri, 04 October 2019, 17:50:26
Is there something wrong with form atm? I tried editing my order but all i get is: "There was a problem submitting your response"

They might be doing invoices right now or at the time you got the error.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Sat, 05 October 2019, 11:27:16
Just paid for the second batch invoice. No spreadsheet for the second batch yet I assume?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MK47 on Sat, 05 October 2019, 12:37:34
Just submitted my order. Can't wait.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noahf on Sat, 05 October 2019, 15:52:53
go to the order google sheet, then click on "Sheet 2" that is where the 2nd round of invoices are living.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 05 October 2019, 21:14:05
I couldn't find anything about this after a short search so apologies if this has been asked yet, does the PC version have brass inserts for the screw threads like the acrylic Tofu case? I assume this would improve longevity greatly.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: rmendis on Sat, 05 October 2019, 21:28:55
Is the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?

Yes, QMK.
SMD LEDs are pre-soldered on hotswap PCBs. They are not RGB tho.

I was wondering what you mean by not RGB. What colour will the LEDs be?

White

So on the non-hotswap pcb, we can solder SMD RGB LED, which the firmware will support cycling through?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Sat, 05 October 2019, 22:33:47
Invoiced and paid! Super excited. Did we ever get a picture of the hotswap PCB?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prangano on Sun, 06 October 2019, 00:13:19
Invoiced and paid! Super excited. Did we ever get a picture of the hotswap PCB?
Yes, here:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/lQ9gOrB.jpg)


The hotswap prototype PCB is finished as well. Will test it later.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: chozn1 on Sun, 06 October 2019, 01:05:18
 Hot swap, 65%, blocker, PC. Man RGB would have made this a must buy. So close :(
Title: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prangano on Sun, 06 October 2019, 02:16:53
Is the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?

Yes, QMK.
SMD LEDs are pre-soldered on hotswap PCBs. They are not RGB tho.

I was wondering what you mean by not RGB. What colour will the LEDs be?

White
Hope you consider changing the LEDs to rgb
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: anonthing00 on Sun, 06 October 2019, 02:20:45
Would I be able to change my shipping address before the keyboards gets shipped out?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vi0till on Sun, 06 October 2019, 02:35:50
Is the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?

Yes, QMK.
SMD LEDs are pre-soldered on hotswap PCBs. They are not RGB tho.

I was wondering what you mean by not RGB. What colour will the LEDs be?

White
Hope you consider changing the LEDs to rgb
Yeah, hope you can consider rgb if it don't require redesign the pcb.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: PotatoTM on Sun, 06 October 2019, 04:28:32
Ended up jumping in, GLWGB!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: muppen on Sun, 06 October 2019, 07:27:59
When will you release the plate files?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: maxmakyk on Sun, 06 October 2019, 09:58:53
Do you have the weight of the components so I can have a brief idea of how much my board will weigh?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: nicx on Sun, 06 October 2019, 10:12:22
Is the PCB QMK ? And is the Hotswap pcb supporting SMD rgb led as in, can i solder them on myself?

Yes, QMK.
SMD LEDs are pre-soldered on hotswap PCBs. They are not RGB tho.

I was wondering what you mean by not RGB. What colour will the LEDs be?

White
Hope you consider changing the LEDs to rgb
Yeah, hope you can consider rgb if it don't require redesign the pcb.

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Same here. Still on the edge for this one but RBG would make it an insta-buy.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DaneOne on Sun, 06 October 2019, 10:17:36
I've put in my order already, just waiting to get invoiced, but I also would love for the LEDs to be RGB. RGB per key is a game changer for layers. Still very excited though, checking multiple times a day if I've recieved the invoice!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: stillzman on Sun, 06 October 2019, 10:43:52
when is the last day to place an order?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Aox on Sun, 06 October 2019, 13:34:28
RGB per key would indeed require a board redesign, so don't get your hopes up.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Surefoot on Sun, 06 October 2019, 14:30:50
I didnt receive the invoice yet ? Sent my order 2 days ago.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: KayVS on Sun, 06 October 2019, 14:43:31
Will there be a typing test anytime soon?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Sun, 06 October 2019, 17:01:56
when is the last day to place an order?
GB started on 2019-09-25 and it's meant to run for two weeks, so that would make the final day of the group buy 2019-10-09 (Wednesday).
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Sun, 06 October 2019, 17:03:59
I didnt receive the invoice yet ? Sent my order 2 days ago.

They go out in waves, so you won't get invoiced right away
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Trixxur on Sun, 06 October 2019, 21:59:28
Just put my order in. Waiting on invoice now   :D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: victorpre on Mon, 07 October 2019, 04:19:30
I'm not sure if this was already asked but here it goes:

Are you making the plate files available for us to cut our own? :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: zkurix on Mon, 07 October 2019, 05:32:53
Hi, I got an invoice and paid but the information in the google form doesn't have the correct info. Does it just need to update?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Mon, 07 October 2019, 08:25:57
Would I be able to change my shipping address before the keyboards gets shipped out?

Yes
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 (Last two days to join)
Post by: senter on Mon, 07 October 2019, 08:39:16
ISO plate files have been attached in OP as promised. They are NOT fully tested tho.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 (Last two days to join)
Post by: chakkii on Mon, 07 October 2019, 09:10:28
ISO plate files have been attached in OP as promised. They are NOT fully tested tho.

so should I just get this file to lasergist or should I wait? will you fully test it?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 (Last two days to join)
Post by: vsrnth on Mon, 07 October 2019, 13:45:53
Is there a discord server or email which we can use to reach out to Fox Lab?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 (Last two days to join)
Post by: muppen on Mon, 07 October 2019, 15:05:46
there are no pieces sticking out on the bottom and top of the iso plates to hold it in a topmount, am i dumb or is it not finished completely?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 (Last two days to join)
Post by: senter on Mon, 07 October 2019, 15:36:42
ISO plate files have been attached in OP as promised. They are NOT fully tested tho.

so should I just get this file to lasergist or should I wait? will you fully test it?

The files look correct to me but I don't plan to do prototyping for them. You need to check the files by yourself and take the risks.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 (Last two days to join)
Post by: senter on Mon, 07 October 2019, 15:38:14
Is there a discord server or email which we can use to reach out to Fox Lab?

We don't have a discord server now.
You'll know my email address after I send out the confirmation email to you.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 (Last two days to join)
Post by: senter on Mon, 07 October 2019, 15:38:42
there are no pieces sticking out on the bottom and top of the iso plates to hold it in a topmount, am i dumb or is it not finished completely?

It's not top mount. It's gasket sandwich.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 (Last two days to join)
Post by: senter on Mon, 07 October 2019, 15:41:01
I plotted some figures according to the current orders. Hope it will help with your choices.

(https://i.imgur.com/X93VQyb.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/vnLq5FU.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/oDVCJeZ.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/vTj83YX.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/U9YOtwp.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/wnAxxWT.jpg)
For top, middle, and bottom combinations.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 (Last two days to join)
Post by: mg53 on Mon, 07 October 2019, 16:02:50
This looks great. I've submitted my order. I guess I need to keep my eye out for an invoice?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 (Last two days to join)
Post by: Quasimodo on Mon, 07 October 2019, 20:31:19
Oooh just had an idea for anyone wanting the ISO plate, in the UK or EU. I'd be very happy to organise a mini group buy, so we could get them slightly cheaper. I personally want brass, so I can't order from Lasergist, so I'm looking at UK laser cutting services. I'm going to get one made for myself regardless, but I thought I'd offer everyone the option to maybe get them slightly cheaper if we all pool together :) The website I'm currently looking at is Lasermaster.co.uk. I've sent a quote request in already with the plate file, so I'm waiting to hear how much it'll cost to make just one. If you are interested, they offer various steels, aluminium, copper and brass.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 (Last two days to join)
Post by: Lil on Mon, 07 October 2019, 20:54:54
Oooh just had an idea for anyone wanting the ISO plate, in the UK or EU. I'd be very happy to organise a mini group buy, so we could get them slightly cheaper. I personally want brass, so I can't order from Lasergist, so I'm looking at UK laser cutting services. I'm going to get one made for myself regardless, but I thought I'd offer everyone the option to maybe get them slightly cheaper if we all pool together :) The website I'm currently looking at is Lasermaster.co.uk. I've sent a quote request in already with the plate file, so I'm waiting to hear how much it'll cost to make just one. If you are interested, they offer various steels, aluminium, copper and brass.
Yeah cool I'd like to know how much a copper or steel plate would be

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 (Last two days to join)
Post by: Pikeo on Mon, 07 October 2019, 21:42:28
Is there a possible way solder rgb smd led on the hotswap pcb in place of the white smds?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 (Last two days to join)
Post by: victorpre on Tue, 08 October 2019, 01:16:47
Oooh just had an idea for anyone wanting the ISO plate, in the UK or EU. I'd be very happy to organise a mini group buy, so we could get them slightly cheaper. I personally want brass, so I can't order from Lasergist, so I'm looking at UK laser cutting services. I'm going to get one made for myself regardless, but I thought I'd offer everyone the option to maybe get them slightly cheaper if we all pool together :) The website I'm currently looking at is Lasermaster.co.uk. I've sent a quote request in already with the plate file, so I'm waiting to hear how much it'll cost to make just one. If you are interested, they offer various steels, aluminium, copper and brass.
Do you think plastic(PC) is also a possibility?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Tue, 08 October 2019, 02:07:48
RGB per key would indeed require a board redesign, so don't get your hopes up.

I'm pretty new to this so I'm just wondering why it'd require a PCB redesign. Is this because there would need to be a controller?

If that's the case, can I just swap out the led's with which ever colour I'd like to use?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 (Last two days to join)
Post by: Surefoot on Tue, 08 October 2019, 02:47:42
Oooh just had an idea for anyone wanting the ISO plate, in the UK or EU. I'd be very happy to organise a mini group buy, so we could get them slightly cheaper. I personally want brass, so I can't order from Lasergist, so I'm looking at UK laser cutting services. I'm going to get one made for myself regardless, but I thought I'd offer everyone the option to maybe get them slightly cheaper if we all pool together :) The website I'm currently looking at is Lasermaster.co.uk. I've sent a quote request in already with the plate file, so I'm waiting to hear how much it'll cost to make just one. If you are interested, they offer various steels, aluminium, copper and brass.
I'd be in for brass, i was going to send the file to LaserBoost as they are in EU too, but it seems the file is incomplete and lacks measurements ?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 (Last two days to join)
Post by: chakkii on Tue, 08 October 2019, 08:55:13
Oooh just had an idea for anyone wanting the ISO plate, in the UK or EU. I'd be very happy to organise a mini group buy, so we could get them slightly cheaper. I personally want brass, so I can't order from Lasergist, so I'm looking at UK laser cutting services. I'm going to get one made for myself regardless, but I thought I'd offer everyone the option to maybe get them slightly cheaper if we all pool together :) The website I'm currently looking at is Lasermaster.co.uk. I've sent a quote request in already with the plate file, so I'm waiting to hear how much it'll cost to make just one. If you are interested, they offer various steels, aluminium, copper and brass.

currently getting some quotes at laserboost for aluminum, steel and brass. But im not sure if its the correct file, because they said some lines are grouped. but they kinda fixed it. are the measurements not in the file?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: noodleman on Tue, 08 October 2019, 09:09:09
what materials are the gaskets made of?

also how is the center of the key logo going to be coloured?  Is it always black or is it colour matched to the weight/front plate?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: MadsMe on Tue, 08 October 2019, 09:34:44
what materials are the gaskets made of?

also how is the center of the key logo going to be coloured?  Is it always black or is it colour matched to the weight/front plate?

You can pick which color you want the key logos to be. Both on the front and in the weight can be picked seperately
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: noodleman on Tue, 08 October 2019, 10:06:03
I meant the middle quarter circles in the logo.  I'm assuming the whole key is one piece so that part will have to be painted a colour.
(https://i.imgur.com/PDPgw4s.jpg)

what materials are the gaskets made of?

also how is the center of the key logo going to be coloured?  Is it always black or is it colour matched to the weight/front plate?

You can pick which color you want the key logos to be. Both on the front and in the weight can be picked seperately
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: ninjinphu on Tue, 08 October 2019, 10:24:40
Joined! Very excited for my first polycarbonate board =)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: jl725 on Tue, 08 October 2019, 10:33:49
When will invoices be going out?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: olsen34 on Tue, 08 October 2019, 10:42:37
I meant the middle quarter circles in the logo.  I'm assuming the whole key is one piece so that part will have to be painted a colour.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/PDPgw4s.jpg)


what materials are the gaskets made of?

also how is the center of the key logo going to be coloured?  Is it always black or is it colour matched to the weight/front plate?

You can pick which color you want the key logos to be. Both on the front and in the weight can be picked seperately

Since the key logo is inserted and not a part of the weight unlike kanji logo engraving, the 4 circle colors should definitely be the same as the weight.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: MK47 on Tue, 08 October 2019, 11:55:38
I am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: baoduy23 on Tue, 08 October 2019, 11:59:26
Joined! Hope this is not too late :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 08 October 2019, 12:39:12
RGB per key would indeed require a board redesign, so don't get your hopes up.

I'm pretty new to this so I'm just wondering why it'd require a PCB redesign. Is this because there would need to be a controller?

If that's the case, can I just swap out the led's with which ever colour I'd like to use?

Only single color SMD LEDs are supported. Yes, you can desolder the white LEDs and change to other colors.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: senter on Tue, 08 October 2019, 12:40:02
I meant the middle quarter circles in the logo.  I'm assuming the whole key is one piece so that part will have to be painted a colour.
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/PDPgw4s.jpg)



The quarter circles are a part of the weight.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: heyjaykay on Tue, 08 October 2019, 12:47:21
Joined. Bring on the invoice!

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: ViciousVerbivore on Tue, 08 October 2019, 12:50:40
When exactly do the orders close?

I'm still trying to make up mind, and would appreciate it if someone could weigh in on how easily the PC and POM might scratch. Also, comparing densities, they are both less than half that of aluminium - would that result in a board that feels light and flimsy like someone else was also wondering, or would the aluminium weight be substantial enough to make up for it?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: senter on Tue, 08 October 2019, 13:14:15
I am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.

You can always choose PC + aluminum.

To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: senter on Tue, 08 October 2019, 13:14:52
When exactly do the orders close?

I'm still trying to make up mind, and would appreciate it if someone could weigh in on how easily the PC and POM might scratch. Also, comparing densities, they are both less than half that of aluminium - would that result in a board that feels light and flimsy like someone else was also wondering, or would the aluminium weight be substantial enough to make up for it?

11:59 AM Oct 9th ET
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: heyjaykay on Tue, 08 October 2019, 13:27:30
I am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.

You can always choose PC + aluminum.

To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.
I think the biggest hurdle to this is the uncertainty with colour matching, as well as the price. If only there was a way to quickly generate a colour matching with potential keycap colourways with the intended case colours

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: wil on Tue, 08 October 2019, 13:30:22
I am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.

You can always choose PC + aluminum.

To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.
I think the biggest hurdle to this is the uncertainty with colour matching, as well as the price. If only there was a way to quickly generate a colour matching with potential keycap colourways with the intended case colours

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agreed. this is a fantastic GB but i went black/black/pink because there were renders that made me realize how good it looks. it's hard to try to combine colors in your head and think of matching keysets as well.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: vincevelorn on Tue, 08 October 2019, 13:52:35
I am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.

You can always choose PC + aluminum.

To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.

I went with a color combo that I wish I saw more of, with Teal and Yellow, thank you for running this!

I'm interested to see how many people just copied the example pics cuz they did look quite good.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: orim23 on Tue, 08 October 2019, 14:06:39
I am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.

You can always choose PC + aluminum.

To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.
I went white/yellow/teal with pink plate/weight. no idea what keyset is going to fit, but i had to get some colors!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: MK47 on Tue, 08 October 2019, 14:08:03
I am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.

You can always choose PC + aluminum.

To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.

Will the fit and finish/quality of the PC case be the same as the aluminium? My biggest worry is that the case would be warping and misalignment due to the soft nature of the material e.g. the weight not sitting flush with the back.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: thecezar on Tue, 08 October 2019, 14:44:31
Only putting in orders ends tomorrow right? And invoices need to be paid by the 16th? I'm just waiting to get paid to pay my invoice hahaha. Also, do we just message you if we want to change our order?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: DaneOne on Tue, 08 October 2019, 15:00:39
Put in my order on the 4th and I havn't recieved my invoice, this is just how it is right, just gotta wait? just worried I'll end up missing out somehow, because something went wrong :/
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: Lil on Tue, 08 October 2019, 15:13:28
Put in my order on the 4th and I havn't recieved my invoice, this is just how it is right, just gotta wait? just worried I'll end up missing out somehow, because something went wrong :/
Just email him runninghack@gmail.com

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: OmniSzron on Tue, 08 October 2019, 15:16:26
To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
After you posted the first batch of orders, I checked if anyone had the same combo as me. It was just one person, but they took the 7u spaced version, while I got the 6.25u. I understand people, who just want a clean board, but with this many options available taking 3x Poly, 3x e-black or 3x e-black is kind of dull. That said, mine wasn't that much more creative - a White/White/Black with a black key, white weight and black key on the weight. This is my first custom, so I didn't want to go overboard on the wacky stuff. Plus, I want to put KAT Milkshake on this, so it had to fit the keyset.

I'm pretty sure if you ever run this board again and have more photos of different color-combos it's going to encourage more creative orders.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: senter on Tue, 08 October 2019, 15:25:40
I am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.

You can always choose PC + aluminum.

To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.
I think the biggest hurdle to this is the uncertainty with colour matching, as well as the price. If only there was a way to quickly generate a colour matching with potential keycap colourways with the intended case colours

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True. That makes sense to me. My render guy does great work but was seldom available. I'll do more renders the next time.

(https://i.imgur.com/2rQYpK0.jpg)

Here's a new render another friend made for me. It's not how PC case looks. It should be matte.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: senter on Tue, 08 October 2019, 15:28:06
I am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.

You can always choose PC + aluminum.

To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.

Will the fit and finish/quality of the PC case be the same as the aluminium? My biggest worry is that the case would be warping and misalignment due to the soft nature of the material e.g. the weight not sitting flush with the back.

Slight warping is possible. They fit well after screws are fastened.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: vincevelorn on Tue, 08 October 2019, 15:28:32
I am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.

You can always choose PC + aluminum.

To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.
I think the biggest hurdle to this is the uncertainty with colour matching, as well as the price. If only there was a way to quickly generate a colour matching with potential keycap colourways with the intended case colours

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True. That makes sense to me. My render guy does great work but was seldom available. I'll do more renders the next time.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/2rQYpK0.jpg)


Here's a new render another friend made for me. It's not how PC case looks. It should be matte.
Daaang that's very nice lookin! Good theming on it
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: senter on Tue, 08 October 2019, 15:29:07
Only putting in orders ends tomorrow right? And invoices need to be paid by the 16th? I'm just waiting to get paid to pay my invoice hahaha. Also, do we just message you if we want to change our order?

Yes * 3
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: senter on Tue, 08 October 2019, 15:32:51
To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
After you posted the first batch of orders, I checked if anyone had the same combo as me. It was just one person, but they took the 7u spaced version, while I got the 6.25u. I understand people, who just want a clean board, but with this many options available taking 3x Poly, 3x e-black or 3x e-black is kind of dull. That said, mine wasn't that much more creative - a White/White/Black with a black key, white weight and black key on the weight. This is my first custom, so I didn't want to go overboard on the wacky stuff. Plus, I want to put KAT Milkshake on this, so it had to fit the keyset.

I'm pretty sure if you ever run this board again and have more photos of different color-combos it's going to encourage more creative orders.


Yep, I still hope people will post innovative and incredible combinations after the boards are delivered, even not too many.
I never run round 2s. If there's nothing new, it doesn't worth my time to run it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: airyimbin on Tue, 08 October 2019, 15:57:28
I'm sorry if this has already been asked.

I just joined the GB, when will the invoice be sent out?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: vincevelorn on Tue, 08 October 2019, 15:59:34
Looking at the list, looks like my combo is completely Unique :D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: nsmk on Tue, 08 October 2019, 16:01:14
White/White/Black with a black key, white weight and black key on the weight.

I got white/white/black with white weight as well but with kanji logo on the weight.

And I agree that this is a safer/less innovative color combo. Might start trying out more bold ideas later on down the road tho.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: senter on Tue, 08 October 2019, 16:10:45
I'm sorry if this has already been asked.

I just joined the GB, when will the invoice be sent out?

Whoever hasn't received the invoice will be invoiced in the 3rd batch tomorrow.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: Auxo on Tue, 08 October 2019, 16:31:18
I'm sorry if this has already been asked.

I just joined the GB, when will the invoice be sent out?

Whoever hasn't received the invoice will be invoiced in the 3rd batch tomorrow.

Hey there,

How much time is there left to join in on this? I have a friend who isn't available until later tonight (PDT) but wants to join in on this GB :)

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: OmniSzron on Tue, 08 October 2019, 17:02:32
True. That makes sense to me. My render guy does great work but was seldom available. I'll do more renders the next time.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/2rQYpK0.jpg)


Here's a new render another friend made for me. It's not how PC case looks. It should be matte.
Damn, that key logo on a poly top piece looks sick.

I got white/white/black with white weight as well but with kanji logo on the weight.

And I agree that this is a safer/less innovative color combo. Might start trying out more bold ideas later on down the road tho.
The W/W/B combo should look clean AF, tho. Can't wait for mine. :)

Yep, I still hope people will post innovative and incredible combinations after the boards are delivered, even not too many.
I never run round 2s. If there's nothing new, it doesn't worth my time to run it.
Oh, interesting. Respectable approach. In any case, I'll make sure to post photos of my build after it's done.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: uncleAjushi on Tue, 08 October 2019, 19:04:00
Just placed my very first keyboard group buy order! Can it be Q1 2020 already haha  :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: muppen on Wed, 09 October 2019, 00:39:37
first keyboard group buy i have joined
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: uncleAjushi on Wed, 09 October 2019, 01:34:35
Can I still edit the form after submission?

I noticed that on list number 2 it states that “don’t fill in the form multiple times unless you want to place more than 1 order”

Does that mean creating a new form? Or editing the current submitted form?

Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: Mithra on Wed, 09 October 2019, 01:58:36
Can I still edit the form after submission?

I noticed that on list number 2 it states that “don’t fill in the form multiple times unless you want to place more than 1 order”

Does that mean creating a new form? Or editing the current submitted form?

Thanks

applies to when creating a new form
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Wed, 09 October 2019, 03:10:36
I am so tempted to change my order to a full PC case from all black but worried that it would feel light and flimsy.

You can always choose PC + aluminum.

To be honest, I hoped more diversity in the orders.
Still, too many people just choose full PC, full black alu, full E-white.
I know simple is good but you won't find another GB runs like this if you don't catch this chance.

You know, i have a very intresting combo between Pink & Teal... i hope it will turn out nice, since i tried and decide on the colours based on GMK Vaporwave.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: Knoxx on Wed, 09 October 2019, 10:19:11
Looking at the list, looks like my combo is completely Unique :D

Same here. Had a keycap set in mind that I wanted to match and just went far out with the colors. Could look bad or amazing but that's part of the fun I guess.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Wed, 09 October 2019, 10:54:05
Looking at the list, looks like my combo is completely Unique :D

Same here. Had a keycap set in mind that I wanted to match and just went far out with the colors. Could look bad or amazing but that's part of the fun I guess.

This pretty much :D

I will post pictures once it is built :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: baoduy23 on Wed, 09 October 2019, 11:05:20
Hi,

Does your board fit with other PCB such as ZEAL65? Under glow RGB is not that hard to make :( I see many groupbuy can do it, hope you can consider this
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: heyjaykay on Wed, 09 October 2019, 11:11:34
It's closed? I need to edit the form. Any other way to access?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: Mormur on Wed, 09 October 2019, 11:24:33
oh I thought the form closed end of day today  :'(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65 ( one day left to join)
Post by: FlexingFelix on Wed, 09 October 2019, 12:30:40
It's closed? I need to edit the form. Any other way to access?

Same here
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 09 October 2019, 13:00:48
I ordered boring PC because I am not that much into coloured keyboards and keycaps. Very much a fan of the classics. and PC is so neutral it could fit any key set.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: wil on Wed, 09 October 2019, 14:08:17
should have asked earlier but is there any hope for buying multiple key logos as extras after the GB?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Soraie on Wed, 09 October 2019, 14:12:54
should have asked earlier but is there any hope for buying multiple key logos as extras after the GB?

Senter mentioned that no extras can be purchased aside from the extra plate and PCB in the form. This buy already had too many combinations that Senter didn't want to make it more confusing with extra anything else.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noahf on Wed, 09 October 2019, 14:19:23
I ordered e-black and e-pink combo, think its gonna be tits.

im pretty excited about e-pink and hope it turns out very poppy. no idea what keyset ill run, but thats a worry for tomorrow.

and really hoping for a one off Damascus proton weight like was mentioned in the IC  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: wil on Wed, 09 October 2019, 14:30:37
should have asked earlier but is there any hope for buying multiple key logos as extras after the GB?

Senter mentioned that no extras can be purchased aside from the extra plate and PCB in the form. This buy already had too many combinations that Senter didn't want to make it more confusing with extra anything else.

definitely, makes sense. was hoping for a chance after the GB though because swapping out different colored keys logos allows for more potential colorways
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vincevelorn on Wed, 09 October 2019, 14:36:39
Awesome, got my invoice and paid it :D

Senter, is there gonna be an updated list of the orders? I'd like to see if my choice was completely unique or not.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Aox on Wed, 09 October 2019, 15:49:53
RGB per key would indeed require a board redesign, so don't get your hopes up.

I'm pretty new to this so I'm just wondering why it'd require a PCB redesign. Is this because there would need to be a controller?

If that's the case, can I just swap out the led's with which ever colour I'd like to use?

You can desolder and put in any colored two pin LED you'd like.

RGB Led's require more pins than single color.  Your typical SMD RGB LED is four pin.

I actually asked the same questions on my first GB, long ago :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Topernicus on Wed, 09 October 2019, 19:26:30
Paid both of my invoices earlier today. Quite excited to be in this group buy.

White top, Space Grey mid, White bottom with Space Grey plate/weight/logo for me.
The gf's is White body with Yellow weight and no logo.

Probably not the most exotic color choices, but I'm happy.

One thing I'm a bit curious about, mostly because some friends were talking about theirs...
Do we know how much each piece will weigh? I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering how heavy their finished board(s) will be.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: deathjester on Wed, 09 October 2019, 19:34:12
I went for Space Grey top and bottom with a Anodized blue middle.

I got a blue plate, but I'm probably going to need to get an ISO plate cut; if someone is running one in Europe that would be great.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Pikeo on Wed, 09 October 2019, 21:20:16
Hey ordered a day or two ago, still haven’t received an invoice. Should I be worried?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: JacobTN on Wed, 09 October 2019, 21:27:37
Ended up doing Black top/middle, with teal bottom. Pumped ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Wed, 09 October 2019, 21:55:36
Hey ordered a day or two ago, still haven’t received an invoice. Should I be worried?

Relax. Senter said he'd do the 3rd wave of invoices once the GB closes.

Also, invoice paid! Can't wait to receive this board. Going to pair mine with GMK Metaverse R2 once it comes out
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Rigario on Wed, 09 October 2019, 22:28:00
I ordered e-black and e-pink combo, think its gonna be tits.

im pretty excited about e-pink and hope it turns out very poppy. no idea what keyset ill run, but thats a worry for tomorrow.

and really hoping for a one off Damascus proton weight like was mentioned in the IC  ;D

Ordered a similar combo too, think it'll work out great with 8008, super stoked!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ensulyn on Wed, 09 October 2019, 23:40:41
Wallets feeling empty after two boards ordered 🤣 for people who ordered multiple, i assume we can combine shipping?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: 112227 on Thu, 10 October 2019, 00:17:33
I went with a mixture of red alu, red brass, and clear brass. invoice paid. excited.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: happycamper87 on Thu, 10 October 2019, 02:12:49
Wallets feeling empty after two boards ordered 🤣 for people who ordered multiple, i assume we can combine shipping?

Yeap, Senter mentioned that multiple orders will have combined shipping. Cost will still be higher than shipping a single board due to weight, but it'll be cheaper than shipping two or more separately.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MK47 on Thu, 10 October 2019, 11:46:25
Invoice paid, now I need to decide which linear switch to buy.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: claesto on Thu, 10 October 2019, 14:02:43
Damn, one day late to the party.  :))
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 10 October 2019, 14:14:47
All the orders have been invoiced and posted in the spreadsheet.

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vincevelorn on Thu, 10 October 2019, 14:49:25
All the orders have been invoiced and posted in the spreadsheet.



Awesome, thank you Senter!

Looking at the sheet, one got close to mine but my layout looks completely unique :D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: muppen on Thu, 10 October 2019, 14:57:02
invoice recieved and payed. exited af
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Thu, 10 October 2019, 21:37:06
All the orders have been invoiced and posted in the spreadsheet.

Almost 500 orders with million combinations? Now I'm starting to get worried about the QC.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: lanyusea on Thu, 10 October 2019, 21:44:40
All the orders have been invoiced and posted in the spreadsheet.

Almost 500 orders with million combinations? Now I'm starting to get worried about the QC.

no worry, it is FOX
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: merkz on Thu, 10 October 2019, 21:50:53
Invoice paid, this is going to be so awesome I got a space gray top and mid with a clear PC bottom and a titanium plate
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Thu, 10 October 2019, 22:41:19
All the orders have been invoiced and posted in the spreadsheet.

Almost 500 orders with million combinations? Now I'm starting to get worried about the QC.

no worry, it is FOX

I hope so...
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Fri, 11 October 2019, 03:31:38
Let the waiting game begin.... :s
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thefallenpoom on Sat, 12 October 2019, 03:46:01
I came too late into the hobby for this groupbuy, are there any other way I can get my hand on this?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Sat, 12 October 2019, 06:15:15
I came too late into the hobby for this groupbuy, are there any other way I can get my hand on this?
You might be able to still get in on it if you message foxlab, it's worth a shot. Other than that, there's always the secondary market or potentially getting a personal order in, which would probably cost more of course.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thefallenpoom on Sat, 12 October 2019, 11:24:39
I came too late into the hobby for this groupbuy, are there any other way I can get my hand on this?
You might be able to still get in on it if you message foxlab, it's worth a shot. Other than that, there's always the secondary market or potentially getting a personal order in, which would probably cost more of course.
Okay, I will try
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sun, 13 October 2019, 08:41:29
Sharing some photos of the boards we just finished manufacturing for another group

(https://i.imgur.com/sC2t9nB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/U4UyILU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/yHIO8mF.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sun, 13 October 2019, 08:47:05
(https://i.imgur.com/zDtMjNC.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8t5ARfg.jpg)

We've started using these rubber inserts on screw holes during the E-coating. The screw holes will be clean after E-coating.

Follow me on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/fox_lab_keyboard) for my most recent updates and experiments. https://www.instagram.com/fox_lab_keyboard/
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Sun, 13 October 2019, 09:00:56
Man, those e-pink, e-teal and e-yellow colours look fresh AF. Kinda makes me regret not getting something more colourful than my white-white-black version. But then again, the e-white looks so clean, too.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MK47 on Sun, 13 October 2019, 10:45:42
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zDtMjNC.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8t5ARfg.jpg)


We've started using these rubber inserts on screw holes during the E-coating. The screw holes will be clean after E-coating.

Follow me on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/fox_lab_keyboard) for my most recent updates and experiments. https://www.instagram.com/fox_lab_keyboard/
Is it too late to change my coating? haha
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Sun, 13 October 2019, 11:01:03
senter is the finalized color of the pcb going to be yellow or a more neutral color? Think yellow would clash a bit with PC boards?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prangano on Sun, 13 October 2019, 16:56:34
When you get pictures of the hotswap pcb, can you take a pic of both front and back? I'm trying to picture what you mean when you say leds strips can be added later. That said, are underglow smd's absolutely off the table? I saw a prior post where you say they have a high failure rate but a lot of the other high end boards(e6.5 and think6.5) as well as lower end boards have underglow with no obvious issues. I've been intrigued by gasket mount and PC cases so this checks all my marks except the missing underglow.

Sure. I'll post later when I receive the prototype.

I mean something like this

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/HkAJoUd.jpg)


The difference is that you don't need to solder the wire on the MCU.

Here's a photo of a Leaf 60 PCB.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/6SNHWRL.jpg)


Can you see the VOG pads? They are for soldering the WS2812 LED strips.

So, because I'm very new at this, I need to ask:

V = Voltage
O = Data out
G = Ground

Is this correct. Sorry if this is obvious.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sun, 13 October 2019, 17:53:26
senter is the finalized color of the pcb going to be yellow or a more neutral color? Think yellow would clash a bit with PC boards?

I'm planning to go with yellow but what are the more neutral colors to you?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sun, 13 October 2019, 17:54:01

So, because I'm very new at this, I need to ask:

V = Voltage
O = Data out
G = Ground

Is this correct. Sorry if this is obvious.

Yes
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ljit0 on Sun, 13 October 2019, 18:41:28
Is there a file for an alps plate yet? I would like to get one cut ASAP so its ready for when I get the board.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: d00deitsnik on Sun, 13 October 2019, 18:42:55
Any chance there might be extra parts? I'm sad I missed out on this one.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Topernicus on Sun, 13 October 2019, 20:17:15
senter is the finalized color of the pcb going to be yellow or a more neutral color? Think yellow would clash a bit with PC boards?

I'm planning to go with yellow but what are the more neutral colors to you?

I'm not who asked, but...
I'm always a fan of white or black PCBs, but I went into this groupbuy expecting the yellow one that was shown.

If the production run ends up being yellow PCBs, not a big deal to me since you can't really see the PCB in my case. 
If it ends up being something like white or black, then that's cool too.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: heyjaykay on Sun, 13 October 2019, 21:53:32
Perhaps you could run a poll for this? I'm assuming colourful cases would like neutral PCBs and vice versa

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Sun, 13 October 2019, 22:50:34
senter is the finalized color of the pcb going to be yellow or a more neutral color? Think yellow would clash a bit with PC boards?

I'm planning to go with yellow but what are the more neutral colors to you?

White or black I think would be good neutral colors. I was just thinking of the PC top case owners with PC plates, the yellow might clash with some key sets. Think you mentioned the foam/rubber filler possibly being clear too which would show off the pcb color as well. Like somebody mentioned, if you are open to it I think a poll would be fair.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sun, 13 October 2019, 23:09:59

White or black I think would be good neutral colors. I was just thinking of the PC top case owners with PC plates, the yellow might clash with some key sets. Think you mentioned the foam/rubber filler possibly being clear too which would show off the pcb color as well. Like somebody mentioned, if you are open to it I think a poll would be fair.

OK, that makes sense to me. Now I incline to choose white if not too many disagree. White doesn't clash with any keysets.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: o3okevin on Sun, 13 October 2019, 23:15:45

White or black I think would be good neutral colors. I was just thinking of the PC top case owners with PC plates, the yellow might clash with some key sets. Think you mentioned the foam/rubber filler possibly being clear too which would show off the pcb color as well. Like somebody mentioned, if you are open to it I think a poll would be fair.

OK, that makes sense to me. Now I incline to choose white if not too many disagree. White doesn't clash with any keysets.

White is a great choice, should go well with most options!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Sun, 13 October 2019, 23:17:21

White or black I think would be good neutral colors. I was just thinking of the PC top case owners with PC plates, the yellow might clash with some key sets. Think you mentioned the foam/rubber filler possibly being clear too which would show off the pcb color as well. Like somebody mentioned, if you are open to it I think a poll would be fair.

OK, that makes sense to me. Now I incline to choose white if not too many disagree. White doesn't clash with any keysets.

Yup, if others are inclined I think white would be perfect. Thanks so much for considering!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Mon, 14 October 2019, 00:13:17
Perhaps you could run a poll for this? I'm assuming colourful cases would like neutral PCBs and vice versa

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Why does the pcb color matter when you can't even see it through alu case? Unless your case is PC, I don't see a point in wanting colorful PCB.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: BestShuckleNA on Mon, 14 October 2019, 04:41:18
Entered expecting yellow pcb but white is nice surprise if that's what's decided!

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Nvmbra on Mon, 14 October 2019, 05:31:38

White or black I think would be good neutral colors. I was just thinking of the PC top case owners with PC plates, the yellow might clash with some key sets. Think you mentioned the foam/rubber filler possibly being clear too which would show off the pcb color as well. Like somebody mentioned, if you are open to it I think a poll would be fair.

OK, that makes sense to me. Now I incline to choose white if not too many disagree. White doesn't clash with any keysets.

Please do this, but could you give people a chance to change their order?

I entered this GB for someone else and he initially chose different colours but went with yellow in the end because of the PCB.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: martensson on Mon, 14 October 2019, 07:33:40
I actually hoped for a yellow PCB (went with all PC case), it gives a nice touch and combines well with the keycaps/theme I went for. But I guess white is OK if yellow triggers a lot of people.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jackedhardwarejunkie on Mon, 14 October 2019, 08:36:34
Sharing some photos of the boards we just finished manufacturing for another group

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/sC2t9nB.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/U4UyILU.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/yHIO8mF.jpg)

Damn too bad that purple wasnt offered with Key that is amazing!!!

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: superpringles on Mon, 14 October 2019, 09:53:15
I joined this group buy in part because the PCB was so colorful! It's also why I went with a polycarbonate board to be honest. Please don't change it, or make the color change optional! In fact, if you can customize the color of the PCB that would be even better.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prangano on Mon, 14 October 2019, 10:07:24
I would prefer white PCB
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: chakkii on Mon, 14 October 2019, 10:24:24
I would also prefer a white PCB
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Mon, 14 October 2019, 11:45:10

White or black I think would be good neutral colors. I was just thinking of the PC top case owners with PC plates, the yellow might clash with some key sets. Think you mentioned the foam/rubber filler possibly being clear too which would show off the pcb color as well. Like somebody mentioned, if you are open to it I think a poll would be fair.

OK, that makes sense to me. Now I incline to choose white if not too many disagree. White doesn't clash with any keysets.

My vote is for white.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Mon, 14 October 2019, 11:53:46
I would also prefer a white PCB

I'd go for white as well, I think it might look better in the polycarb case.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Mon, 14 October 2019, 12:10:53
white please!!!!!!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ele7087 on Mon, 14 October 2019, 12:22:39
I’m fine with any colour for the pcb, it doesn’t matter to me
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ljit0 on Mon, 14 October 2019, 12:26:13
I would say don't change it at all. People entered knowing that there would be a yellow pcb so it's probably best to not change it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: PantoneC on Mon, 14 October 2019, 14:02:46
This is my first group buy and knowing that the pcb is going to be yellow. I even built around it choosing to go with all pc top mid and bottom with a pc plate to show off the pcb with brass weight as accent to complement my build. I can understand some that want a different color pcb but most will never see it in the finished build unlike those who chose pc clear. Please keep it they original yellow.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: orim23 on Mon, 14 October 2019, 14:14:02
This is my first group buy and knowing that the pcb is going to be yellow. I even built around it choosing to go with all pc top mid and bottom with a pc plate to show off the pcb with brass weight as accent to complement my build. I can understand some that want a different color pcb but most will never see it in the finished build unlike those who chose pc clear. Please keep it they original yellow.
I have an alu only case. would like it white, but i only see the pcb during building.
so lets keep it at the original color!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: k00leggie on Mon, 14 October 2019, 18:31:07
I joined knowing about the yellow pcb but i would still prefer a white pcb. Feel it fits better for most options than yellow.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Mon, 14 October 2019, 22:55:20
the yellow is seriously ugly.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Instinct on Mon, 14 October 2019, 23:18:41
Please make the pcb white!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: baye12928 on Tue, 15 October 2019, 01:11:44
PCB white please
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Benjie on Tue, 15 October 2019, 02:24:04
+1 for white PCB
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: bananafritters on Tue, 15 October 2019, 02:38:56
I vote for white
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Tue, 15 October 2019, 07:05:33
Can't say I really cared much for the colour of the PCB, but it would be nicer if it was white I suppose so it doesn't clash with the PC. You should have a poll though.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kingjunguhn on Tue, 15 October 2019, 08:16:26
Pcb colour matters even less than plate material, are you even going to see it once the board is built?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Tue, 15 October 2019, 08:43:57
Does the pcb have esd protection?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Tue, 15 October 2019, 08:46:07
Does the pcb have esd protection?

you will if you picked the polycarb option.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Na-Meng on Tue, 15 October 2019, 11:09:24
Couldn’t the pcb be black like the Leaf60? Yellow pcb with PC not looking forward to it......
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Quasimodo on Tue, 15 October 2019, 16:57:18
Oooh just had an idea for anyone wanting the ISO plate, in the UK or EU. I'd be very happy to organise a mini group buy, so we could get them slightly cheaper. I personally want brass, so I can't order from Lasergist, so I'm looking at UK laser cutting services. I'm going to get one made for myself regardless, but I thought I'd offer everyone the option to maybe get them slightly cheaper if we all pool together :) The website I'm currently looking at is Lasermaster.co.uk. I've sent a quote request in already with the plate file, so I'm waiting to hear how much it'll cost to make just one. If you are interested, they offer various steels, aluminium, copper and brass.

Oooh just had an idea for anyone wanting the ISO plate, in the UK or EU. I'd be very happy to organise a mini group buy, so we could get them slightly cheaper. I personally want brass, so I can't order from Lasergist, so I'm looking at UK laser cutting services. I'm going to get one made for myself regardless, but I thought I'd offer everyone the option to maybe get them slightly cheaper if we all pool together :) The website I'm currently looking at is Lasermaster.co.uk. I've sent a quote request in already with the plate file, so I'm waiting to hear how much it'll cost to make just one. If you are interested, they offer various steels, aluminium, copper and brass.
Do you think plastic(PC) is also a possibility?

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Oooh just had an idea for anyone wanting the ISO plate, in the UK or EU. I'd be very happy to organise a mini group buy, so we could get them slightly cheaper. I personally want brass, so I can't order from Lasergist, so I'm looking at UK laser cutting services. I'm going to get one made for myself regardless, but I thought I'd offer everyone the option to maybe get them slightly cheaper if we all pool together :) The website I'm currently looking at is Lasermaster.co.uk. I've sent a quote request in already with the plate file, so I'm waiting to hear how much it'll cost to make just one. If you are interested, they offer various steels, aluminium, copper and brass.
Yeah cool I'd like to know how much a copper or steel plate would be

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I've recieved back an invoice for one, which comes to around £70  :eek: Due to this, I'm not really sure how viable it will be for a little group buy, unless I get quite a few people to join, so I guess lets do a theoretical IC, then I'll get another quote with a value based on multiple purchases.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: cornballin on Wed, 16 October 2019, 12:55:29
I vote to stay with yellow since that was what people made the GB decisions based on. I purposely picked plate and weight colors for PC that would go with yellow PCB. I could live with white or black though if I had to.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 16 October 2019, 16:43:41

White or black I think would be good neutral colors. I was just thinking of the PC top case owners with PC plates, the yellow might clash with some key sets. Think you mentioned the foam/rubber filler possibly being clear too which would show off the pcb color as well. Like somebody mentioned, if you are open to it I think a poll would be fair.

OK, that makes sense to me. Now I incline to choose white if not too many disagree. White doesn't clash with any keysets.

+1 vote for white! Black would be cool too.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: chayu on Wed, 16 October 2019, 16:45:58
I liked the yellow as well but since it is changing, I am glad I bailed out of PC and went for alu last minute.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Solotov on Wed, 16 October 2019, 22:14:56
OK, that makes sense to me. Now I incline to choose white if not too many disagree. White doesn't clash with any keysets.

Wait.. I selected all parts and colors based on the fact that it was a yellow PCB. If you plan to change PCB's color, at least please make it as an option for others to stay with yellow PCB.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 17 October 2019, 09:35:38
I'm fine with either. I chose a brass weight and a white plate. Goes with both colour PCBs very well.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Soraie on Thu, 17 October 2019, 18:21:24
I'd definitely prefer white for a more neutral PCB that goes well with anything but definitely see others being upset that original pictures showed yellow PCB and basing their case on the yellow PCB.

Overall personally white PCB +1
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: 112227 on Thu, 17 October 2019, 18:46:48
black pcb > colored PCB > white pcb
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Fri, 18 October 2019, 09:23:41
A White PCB Is Definitely The Way To Go  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Mon, 21 October 2019, 23:08:44
Hey Senter, will you be confirming shipping address in a couple months when we're invoiced the $40 dollars for shipping costs? I just found out today I will most likely be moving in the next few weeks and the address listed on my paypal at time of purchase will be incorrect.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: NoxNoxNox on Mon, 21 October 2019, 23:28:50
White PCB def better for PC people than yellow.  I didn't get a PC board so it doesn't' bother me either way.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Mon, 21 October 2019, 23:36:46
Hey Senter, will you be confirming shipping address in a couple months when we're invoiced the $40 dollars for shipping costs? I just found out today I will most likely be moving in the next few weeks and the address listed on my paypal at time of purchase will be incorrect.

Same, please confirm address when invoicing us. I may already move out too by the time the shipping starts.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 21 October 2019, 23:38:10
general practice is to ship to the address on the shipping invoice but confirmation is always good

i.e. deal with it when the time comes, but good to get ahead of it
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 22 October 2019, 08:07:05
Hey Senter, will you be confirming shipping address in a couple months when we're invoiced the $40 dollars for shipping costs? I just found out today I will most likely be moving in the next few weeks and the address listed on my paypal at time of purchase will be incorrect.

general practice is to ship to the address on the shipping invoice but confirmation is always good

i.e. deal with it when the time comes, but good to get ahead of it

Hey Senter, will you be confirming shipping address in a couple months when we're invoiced the $40 dollars for shipping costs? I just found out today I will most likely be moving in the next few weeks and the address listed on my paypal at time of purchase will be incorrect.

Same, please confirm address when invoicing us. I may already move out too by the time the shipping starts.

Sure. I will confirm the latest shipping addresses before shipping starts.

I'll probably learn how to do that with some scripts :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: evorus5 on Tue, 22 October 2019, 21:49:06
Will there be a possibility to purchase extra weights if there are any? i.e extras, b stock etc.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: tex_live_utility on Wed, 23 October 2019, 08:24:41
White PCB is boring! +1 for yellow PCB all the way.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ConfuseBill on Wed, 23 October 2019, 09:14:07
Hate to say this. But i ordered Yellow Top with PC Bottom. So Yellow PCB is +1 for me. If i ordered other color, i might choose White PCB. Cheers
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: victorpre on Wed, 23 October 2019, 12:36:56
My 2 cents about this whole PCB thing: I don't care much about the color but people knew it was yellow from the IC, so what else is left to discuss?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 23 October 2019, 13:01:05
My 2 cents about this whole PCB thing: I don't care much about the color but people knew it was yellow from the IC, so what else is left to discuss?

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It was never discussed in the IC. As of yet, I've never actually formally announced the PCB color.
No one cared about the PCB color until someone mentioned it after GB was closed.
I didn't know some people care about the PCB color so much.
Did the same thing happen to other GBs with PC cases before? I'm really confused.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: victorpre on Wed, 23 October 2019, 13:13:33
My 2 cents about this whole PCB thing: I don't care much about the color but people knew it was yellow from the IC, so what else is left to discuss?

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It was never discussed in the IC. As of yet, I've never actually formally announced the PCB color.
No one cared about the PCB color until someone mentioned it after GB was closed.
I didn't know some people care about the PCB color so much.
Did the same thing happen to other GBs with PC cases before? I'm really confused.
My bad! It was already here in this thread:


Can we get a photo of the PCB too, please?

And yes, let's go!!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/1BxzXKQ.jpg)


will have the hotswap version on Sunday.

I assumed this was already a final color, sorry

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DaneOne on Wed, 23 October 2019, 13:16:13
Think a white pcb would look better, buuut since I won't be seeing it much I really don't care much about the color of the pcb, It's only really sad that the hotswaps per key LED isn't rgb. That would really be the only thing I myself would want to see changed. Just for the sake of the people who bought their stuff with a yellow pcb in mind, I would probably vote in favor of keeping it yellow
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vincevelorn on Wed, 23 October 2019, 13:26:47
Yellow would look nice in my choice, but I'm cool with any color really. You wont see it that much through the plate and top.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 23 October 2019, 13:53:43
I voted for white previously,  but to clarify, I'd be fine with the original yellow, since it will not be visible in my build and will directly impact the plans of those with the PC case.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ele7087 on Wed, 23 October 2019, 23:40:16
Yea, I don’t really care about the pcb colour since my case is not polycarbonate.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ConfuseBill on Thu, 24 October 2019, 03:09:58
My 2 cents about this whole PCB thing: I don't care much about the color but people knew it was yellow from the IC, so what else is left to discuss?

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It was never discussed in the IC. As of yet, I've never actually formally announced the PCB color.
No one cared about the PCB color until someone mentioned it after GB was closed.
I didn't know some people care about the PCB color so much.

Did the same thing happen to other GBs with PC cases before? I'm really confused.

Senter, stay true and follow your heart. Your Original Keyboard design what makes it you.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: deathjester on Thu, 24 October 2019, 16:50:04
I vote to stay with yellow since that was what people made the GB decisions based on. I purposely picked plate and weight colors for PC that would go with yellow PCB. I could live with white or black though if I had to.

Where did you ask?
I got a quote back @ 85 euros + VAT & Shipping.

That was for 1.5mm aluminium.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Quasimodo on Fri, 25 October 2019, 14:43:04
I vote to stay with yellow since that was what people made the GB decisions based on. I purposely picked plate and weight colors for PC that would go with yellow PCB. I could live with white or black though if I had to.

Where did you ask?
I got a quote back @ 85 euros + VAT & Shipping.

That was for 1.5mm aluminium.

I know you didn't quote my message, but from context I'm assuming you might've meant to. I got my quote from lasermaster.co.uk. It was £70 including VAT and Shipping, for 1.5mm brass, so I assume aluminium would be slightly cheaper, maybe £60-65? I think thats around €75 or so, but I'm not quite sure. I'd definitely suggest checking them out if you're interested.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 26 October 2019, 10:45:12
An aluminium plate for a TKL with relief cuts (so lots to cut) costs 80€ + shipping at laserboost. I bet a 65% plate without a lot of relief cuts would be a lot cheaper. Before I added the relief cuts the same TKL plate was 63€. Ships from Barcelona as far as I am aware.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: deathjester on Sat, 26 October 2019, 17:22:04
I vote to stay with yellow since that was what people made the GB decisions based on. I purposely picked plate and weight colors for PC that would go with yellow PCB. I could live with white or black though if I had to.

Where did you ask?
I got a quote back @ 85 euros + VAT & Shipping.

That was for 1.5mm aluminium.

I know you didn't quote my message, but from context I'm assuming you might've meant to. I got my quote from lasermaster.co.uk. It was £70 including VAT and Shipping, for 1.5mm brass, so I assume aluminium would be slightly cheaper, maybe £60-65? I think thats around €75 or so, but I'm not quite sure. I'd definitely suggest checking them out if you're interested.

Apparently I didn't notice at all... Ooops.

Ok thanks, I'll give them a try! Certainly should be cheaper than importing it from Germany.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: aydio on Tue, 29 October 2019, 10:34:59
Hi, due to changes in my financial situation, I wanted to ask if it's possible to cancel my order (I've already paid)?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Tue, 29 October 2019, 13:04:52
Hi, due to changes in my financial situation, I wanted to ask if it's possible to cancel my order (I've already paid)?

PM senter directly - that's your best bet.  GL with your financial situation!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Zik on Tue, 29 October 2019, 20:49:37
Hi, due to changes in my financial situation, I wanted to ask if it's possible to cancel my order (I've already paid)?
I somehow missed the gb due to timezone, maybe I can take your spot. I will shoot u a dm
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Thu, 31 October 2019, 13:02:48
only argument for white really is it goes with everything imo.

yellow is so opinionated.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Egobean on Sat, 02 November 2019, 18:57:20
can i jump in this group buy? i just seen it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Sat, 02 November 2019, 22:56:26
can i jump in this group buy? i just seen it.

Ended already, so probably not unless there are extras.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Zik on Sun, 03 November 2019, 00:03:43
Stiil looking for a yellow WKL PC with block, Kanji top & bottom weight. Message me if you're interested in letting go your spot :)
Discord KiZ#6485
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Pikeo on Tue, 05 November 2019, 17:57:12
Any updates yet
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: infamousvincci on Wed, 06 November 2019, 14:04:07
Anyone wants my spot? Pm me here. Something happened and would need funds.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Wed, 06 November 2019, 14:23:45
Wait Does This Underglow?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: infamousvincci on Wed, 06 November 2019, 14:53:32
can i jump in this group buy? i just seen it.
Im gonna need someone to cover my spot. If you want to hop on to it pm me.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: martensson on Wed, 06 November 2019, 18:02:52
Wait Does This Underglow?

Not by default, but it supports led strips so its possible to add rgb underglow.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: xchangmanx on Thu, 07 November 2019, 14:42:26
I have an extra spot since I ordered 2.  send me a PM if anyone interested in 1. 
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Thu, 07 November 2019, 19:12:32
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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: infamousvincci on Thu, 07 November 2019, 22:03:43
I am very interested in taking someone's spot on this GB. Black or poly preferred. I PM'd some of you, but haven't heard back. Send me a PM if you need someone to tak your spot! Thanks in advance.
Ill pm u

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ljit0 on Fri, 08 November 2019, 15:07:22
ne alps plate files avail. pls
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: twistitup on Fri, 08 November 2019, 16:27:46
I'm interested in this GB, please PM me if you need someone to take your spot. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: outsider on Fri, 08 November 2019, 22:19:38
Looking for a spot. Pm please :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thanhnv244 on Sat, 09 November 2019, 06:26:49
Really like the board but I'm not in the best spot financially right now, have to give it up.

I ordered full E-white case (WK top-middle-bottom), mid-night green weight, both logos are Kanji, 1 pair 6.25u pcb+E-white plate, 1 pair 7u hotswap pcb+PC plate.

If anyone interest PM me.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: PocketAces on Sat, 09 November 2019, 17:17:20
Very interested in an E pink version if anyone is letting go of their spot. PM me


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Mon, 11 November 2019, 19:21:48
any updates on production?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Fri, 15 November 2019, 07:25:07
I'm putting together the pieces for my build with this case, but I don't know whether I should pick up some plate mounted or PCB mounted stabilizers.

I'm pretty sure the plate supports plate-mounted stabs, but there're these new POM stabs that are PCB-mounted and I'm wondering whether this case/PCB support this kind of mount.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: o3okevin on Fri, 15 November 2019, 07:29:31
I'm putting together the pieces for my build with this case, but I don't know whether I should pick up some plate mounted or PCB mounted stabilizers.

I'm pretty sure the plate supports plate-mounted stabs, but there're these new POM stabs that are PCB-mounted and I'm wondering whether this case/PCB support this kind of mount.

Yes you can use PCB mount stabs
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Lillenne on Fri, 15 November 2019, 12:57:25
If anyone is looking to let go of their wk aluminum board with key logo spot pm me! If you can't change colors anymore looking for black or teal but I think you still can. Prefer alu plate with extra pc plate and 7u layout but open to whatever. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: cornballin on Sat, 16 November 2019, 10:02:52
Any updates on this? Are we still on track for the three-month timeline?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: KayVS on Sat, 16 November 2019, 12:20:39
Curious to see if we can get a typing test anytime soon
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: snoofy on Sat, 16 November 2019, 17:37:37
i want to change my option. can i?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Sun, 17 November 2019, 22:00:06
i want to change my option. can i?

you cannot :( i tried asking recently
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prototype26 on Tue, 19 November 2019, 23:40:53
No updates?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Wed, 20 November 2019, 08:34:46
Couple of queries
- Any chance we can see a typing test?
- Any updates on production ? Are we going to be able to meet the 3-month lead time?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: JacobTN on Wed, 20 November 2019, 23:02:46
Looking forward to this one, also would love some updates if any :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: baye12928 on Thu, 21 November 2019, 03:12:59
shall we catch the time and receive before the Chinese Spring festival? otherwise probably need to wait until the end of Feb.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Thu, 21 November 2019, 10:14:23
so excited for this. any news would be excellent!!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DabbyBear on Thu, 21 November 2019, 10:23:44
After nearly a week of people suggesting that an update would be cool, I will be pleasantly surprised if we hear back within this year. Second gb of my first two group buys and after reading through the comments of many others, this seems typical  :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Thu, 21 November 2019, 10:42:40
It's a normal group buy. This will take months to complete and there are not many updates to be had throughout. This has been a thing for at least 5 years. If there is nothing notable to update on, there won't be an update.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prototype26 on Sat, 23 November 2019, 01:07:15
Any update is appreciated now of all times. I'm now more worried after hearing about equalz zero situation.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Surefoot on Sat, 23 November 2019, 03:09:05
Any update is appreciated now of all times. I'm now more worried after hearing about equalz zero situation.
The GB just barely finished... Give it some time
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 26 November 2019, 13:35:39
To be fair, we're over half way through the production phase.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: baye12928 on Tue, 26 November 2019, 20:08:11
To be fair, we're over half way through the production phase.

if there is an update, why not~ also, believe Mr. Fox would like to provide some info if possible ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prototype26 on Tue, 26 November 2019, 20:21:56
Any update is appreciated now of all times. I'm now more worried after hearing about equalz zero situation.
The GB just barely finished... Give it some time

Entering almost 2 months after GB closed is definitely not "barely finished".
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Tue, 26 November 2019, 20:43:12
Every time I see this thread updated my hope shoots up for no apparent reason
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 26 November 2019, 22:38:51
Update:

(https://i.imgur.com/zyOZ13Z.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DC8YGdA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/p7pRNdM.jpg)

We'll have another major update after two weeks.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: o3okevin on Tue, 26 November 2019, 22:40:36
Look at all that metal!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Tue, 26 November 2019, 22:55:14
Nice, appreciate the progress update.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Tue, 26 November 2019, 23:31:53
Our prayers have been answered! Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Water lee on Wed, 27 November 2019, 00:52:42
So many bricks :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: 19thmech on Wed, 27 November 2019, 01:42:18
Hi All,

I would like to fill in if anyone wants to get rid of their spot please. I am after either a PC or E-white option. thanks :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: baye12928 on Wed, 27 November 2019, 02:47:40
Update:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zyOZ13Z.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/DC8YGdA.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/p7pRNdM.jpg)


  • All the aluminum and brass plates have been CNC milled. The PC plates have been finished as well but I didn't get photos from the laser cutting shop. 
  • The CNC factory is working on the bottom cases right now. I only took some photos with the cut aluminum bricks.
We'll have another major update after two weeks.

thanks bro, you are great~
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Lotsati on Wed, 27 November 2019, 09:51:29
Looking for a Grey spot if anyone's looking to transfer. Grey WKL or WK Kanji Logo Top w/ Grey or PC Mid/Bot would be perfect but open to other combinations of Grey, PC, White, and Black too.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Wed, 27 November 2019, 11:53:15
Damn those aluminium bricks look hot AF. :o
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 27 November 2019, 18:45:02
Update:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zyOZ13Z.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/DC8YGdA.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/p7pRNdM.jpg)


  • All the aluminum and brass plates have been CNC milled. The PC plates have been finished as well but I didn't get photos from the laser cutting shop. 
  • The CNC factory is working on the bottom cases right now. I only took some photos with the cut aluminum bricks.
We'll have another major update after two weeks.

Thanks Senter!! Appreciate the update.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Wed, 27 November 2019, 23:10:12
Can't wait!

I went with e-black and teal accents. Anyone have any suggestions for keycaps? The teal is very light for light in the pictures, assuming it looks like the photos.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prototype26 on Wed, 27 November 2019, 23:56:22
Can't wait!

I went with e-black and teal accents. Anyone have any suggestions for keycaps? The teal is very light for light in the pictures, assuming it looks like the photos.

GMK Delta / Pulse
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: d00deitsnik on Thu, 28 November 2019, 00:54:31
Can't wait!

I went with e-black and teal accents. Anyone have any suggestions for keycaps? The teal is very light for light in the pictures, assuming it looks like the photos.

GMK Delta / Pulse
Didn't GMK Delta just end? Hopefully they'll have extras for that black/teal combo. Sounds pretty nice.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prototype26 on Thu, 28 November 2019, 02:05:57
Can't wait!

I went with e-black and teal accents. Anyone have any suggestions for keycaps? The teal is very light for light in the pictures, assuming it looks like the photos.

GMK Delta / Pulse
Didn't GMK Delta just end? Hopefully they'll have extras for that black/teal combo. Sounds pretty nice.

Probably ended recently. The deskmat design is fire too.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: d00deitsnik on Thu, 28 November 2019, 03:00:40
Can't wait!

I went with e-black and teal accents. Anyone have any suggestions for keycaps? The teal is very light for light in the pictures, assuming it looks like the photos.

GMK Delta / Pulse
Didn't GMK Delta just end? Hopefully they'll have extras for that black/teal combo. Sounds pretty nice.

Probably ended recently. The deskmat design is fire too.
I was mistaken! The GB is live till December 1. There are a bunch of artisan raffles for it too. I ended up joining on November 6 and forgot about it lol. Here's the link to the GMK Delta GB if you or noideawhatsgoing is interested. Such a fire set.

https://cannonkeys.com/products/gb-gmk-delta

*edit* Oops. That's just the US vendor.  :))
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Thu, 28 November 2019, 09:07:50
I was mistaken! The GB is live till December 1. There are a bunch of artisan raffles for it too. I ended up joining on November 6 and forgot about it lol. Here's the link to the GMK Delta GB if you or noideawhatsgoing is interested. Such a fire set.

https://cannonkeys.com/products/gb-gmk-delta

*edit* Oops. That's just the US vendor.  :))

I'm in for a set. This will look awesome. Thanks for the help, guys.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Quasimodo on Thu, 28 November 2019, 17:54:55
Can't wait!

I went with e-black and teal accents. Anyone have any suggestions for keycaps? The teal is very light for light in the pictures, assuming it looks like the photos.

KAT Eternal sounds like it would go pretty nicely with that. Still got time to grab it if you get in soon! I've gone for GMK Firefly for mine, but I think Eternal would look really nice with your colour choices. Should be arrive at about the same time too.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: deathjester on Fri, 29 November 2019, 04:28:49
I went with anodised grey and blue mid-section.

Looking for keycap suggestions too. I think I possibly should have gone with teal.

I also have a Dwarf Factory Vinerious artisan for it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: d00deitsnik on Fri, 29 November 2019, 05:11:30
I went with anodised grey and blue mid-section.

Looking for keycap suggestions too. I think I possibly should have gone with teal.

I also have a Dwarf Factory Vinerious artisan for it.
I think I'm really sad I missed out on this GB. I keep coming back to it. lol. But I feel like ano gray+blue mid would go well with a lot of keysets. Of current GBs, I personally would match the Mito Pegaso available on Drop with that. But depending on the color of the blue, other options you could consider are KAT Space Cadet, GMK Fuyu or GMK Masterpiece (I'm a fan of all of them). But those are all still in IC. mmm... So many choices. Good luck deciding!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: deathjester on Fri, 29 November 2019, 05:24:41
The GMK Masterpiece looks awesome.

I was also looking at Tai Hao PBT Black Grey keycaps.
I think that a combination of the master piece set, and the black grey set should look amazing.

Thanks :D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 11 December 2019, 08:11:32
(https://i.imgur.com/VjUyzTV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0sk1IlN.jpg)

Update:

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 11 December 2019, 11:25:05
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/VjUyzTV.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/0sk1IlN.jpg)


Update:

  • The CNC milling of top cases and middle cases are half done. One side of the CNC milling has been finished. The factory will do the other side next.
  • The overall CNC milling is estimated to be completed in January. Everything else should be finished in February.

Thanks Senter! Great to see the progress :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: JacobTN on Wed, 11 December 2019, 12:26:46
Can't wait!  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Wed, 11 December 2019, 22:51:03
Thanks for the updates!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vincevelorn on Wed, 11 December 2019, 23:55:38
Hype! Hype! Hype!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Sat, 14 December 2019, 17:40:03
thank you for updates! Looks like we'll be receiving them in March
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: PantoneC on Sun, 15 December 2019, 11:27:12
any photo on pc clear production?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ljit0 on Sun, 15 December 2019, 15:48:44
Still waiting on the files for alps plates. Alps support was the only reason I joined this buy. Just want to get a plate ready for when I receive the board.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thanhnv244 on Sun, 22 December 2019, 07:21:43
Really like the board but I'm not in the best spot financially right now, have to give it up.

I ordered full E-white case (WK top-middle-bottom), mid-night green weight, both logos are Kanji, 1 pair 6.25u pcb+E-white plate, 1 pair 7u hotswap pcb+PC plate.

If anyone interest PM me.

Bump, pm me if you interest
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ILoveMinivans on Sun, 22 December 2019, 19:33:39
I am also trying to let go of mine because I got what I originally wanted(poly 60%). If anyone is interested, send me a PM.

PC Top - Wk no logo - PC Middle - PC Bottom - PC and Aluminum pink 7u plates - Pink key logo weight - 1 hot swap PCB and 1 non hot swap PCB.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: chameleon on Tue, 24 December 2019, 07:51:00
Looking to take someone’s group buy slot for pink or polycarb, dm me or message me on discord if you’re interested! Discord: Chameleon#4027
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MMKB on Tue, 24 December 2019, 11:36:15
I am also trying to let go of mine because I got what I originally wanted(poly 60%). If anyone is interested, send me a PM.

PC Top - Wk no logo - PC Middle - PC Bottom - PC and Aluminum pink 7u plates - Pink key logo weight - 1 hot swap PCB and 1 non hot swap PCB.

Damn it’s almost what I would like to buy. Too broke.  :'(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Rich Carpenter on Wed, 25 December 2019, 10:23:14
i love it
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Thu, 26 December 2019, 13:01:27
Will there be some live builds or streams of this board getting built once it's launched??

I'd like to see how its built before I build this.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: tex_live_utility on Thu, 26 December 2019, 13:44:52
Will there be some live builds or streams of this board getting built once it's launched??

I'd like to see how its built before I build this.

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The GB was launched months ago... we're all just waiting for them to finish manufacturing and shipping now. I (and I'm sure many others) will be streaming builds.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Thu, 26 December 2019, 22:42:53
Will there be some live builds or streams of this board getting built once it's launched??

I'd like to see how its built before I build this.

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The GB was launched months ago... we're all just waiting for them to finish manufacturing and shipping now. I (and I'm sure many others) will be streaming builds.
Thanks

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: loud_asian on Fri, 03 January 2020, 16:06:43
Anyone interested in picking up my spot? I ordered a black/pink case. Order# 468 on the sheet.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Sat, 04 January 2020, 02:15:36
Do i need a extra plate to go with my extra pcb?

I might in the future want to use a different type of switch with the key 65.

Can it be done without desoldering the switches since I have a extra pcb?

Or will i need to desolder since I don't have an extra plate?

I'm sorry about the long winded question.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Lil on Sat, 04 January 2020, 06:58:53
Do i need a extra plate to go with my extra pcb?

I might in the future want to use a different type of switch with the key 65.

Can it be done without desoldering the switches since I have a extra pcb?


You could order another plate from someone like https://www.laserboost.com/ (https://www.laserboost.com/) but you would need to upload the plate file for the key65
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Sat, 04 January 2020, 07:53:02
Do i need a extra plate to go with my extra pcb?

I might in the future want to use a different type of switch with the key 65.

Can it be done without desoldering the switches since I have a extra pcb?


You could order another plate from someone like https://www.laserboost.com/ (https://www.laserboost.com/) but you would need to upload the plate file for the key65
So I'd require another plate incase i did not want to desolder gotcha

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: zqs1qiwan on Sat, 04 January 2020, 09:10:05
Can't wait, how's the update so far
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: AlbinoJellyfish on Sat, 04 January 2020, 09:51:52
Is it possible to add an extra PCB to an order, or will there be a chance to buy extras likes plates and PCB?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Mon, 06 January 2020, 10:25:12
Any new updates? if not it's all good  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Mon, 06 January 2020, 23:00:25
Alright, I'll bite. Anyone have a spot for sale? Shoot me a PM with what you've got and how much.

God I really don't need another board but I regret selling my Leaf60...
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Mon, 06 January 2020, 23:02:09
Alright, I'll bite. Anyone have a spot for sale? Shoot me a PM with what you've got and how much.

God I really don't need another board but I regret selling my Leaf60...
I think there are at least 3-4 people looking to sell their spots. you should check the last 2-3 pages of the thread and contact them.

Happy hunting.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Mon, 06 January 2020, 23:07:38
I think there are at least 3-4 people looking to sell their spots. you should check the last 2-3 pages of the thread and contact them.

Happy hunting.

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Good looking out, thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: evorus5 on Tue, 07 January 2020, 20:07:44
Looking to get rid of my spot. Have other expenses I would like to get taken care of.
It is a PC Key65 Order 554, you can take a look at the details.

Quickest reply would be from discord Evorus #5336
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Wed, 08 January 2020, 00:57:35
Should we expect shipping in February?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: baye12928 on Wed, 08 January 2020, 03:59:42
Should we expect shipping in February?
No, you should not
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Wed, 08 January 2020, 05:56:20
Should we expect shipping in February?
No, you should not
More like April, assuming everything goes right.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 08 January 2020, 07:39:57
Should we expect shipping in February?
No, you should not
More like April, assuming everything goes right.

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Can I ask where this is coming from? Last update by Senter says everything should be done production in February.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Wed, 08 January 2020, 07:47:47
Should we expect shipping in February?
No, you should not
More like April, assuming everything goes right.

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Can I ask where this is coming from? Last update by Senter says everything should be done production in February.
Group-buys have a way of getting delayed due to multiple reasons.

There have been multiple group buys that got delayed in the recent past couple of months.

Given past experience I'm pessimistic of group-buys getting shipped on time.

This group-buy has lots of orders too.

I'm more than happy to eat my words if the GB gets shipped in February. I too would like to get my keyboard as soon as possible.

When I said April, I meant don't get your hopes high.

No offense senter.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Wed, 08 January 2020, 10:24:17
Should we expect shipping in February?
No, you should not
More like April, assuming everything goes right.

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Can I ask where this is coming from? Last update by Senter says everything should be done production in February.
Group-buys have a way of getting delayed due to multiple reasons.

There have been multiple group buys that got delayed in the recent past couple of months.

Given past experience I'm pessimistic of group-buys getting shipped on time.

This group-buy has lots of orders too.

I'm more than happy to eat my words if the GB gets shipped in February. I too would like to get my keyboard as soon as possible.

When I said April, I meant don't get your hopes high.

No offense senter.

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Personally think we would receive it in march and latest  early april
Taking into account a month and a little bit more to finish shipping out all the orders
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kaylieee on Thu, 09 January 2020, 06:54:14
Anyone looking to get rid of their spot? Looking for pc, black, pink, or white but other colors are fine and a hotswap pcb. Message me on discord kay.lieeeee#7985
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cresc3nt on Thu, 09 January 2020, 17:15:43
Sorry if this is a newbie question but with the hotswap pcb, can I use 3-pin switches on it?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Thu, 09 January 2020, 17:30:22
Sorry if this is a newbie question but with the hotswap pcb, can I use 3-pin switches on it?
Yes.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cresc3nt on Thu, 09 January 2020, 19:58:34
Sorry if this is a newbie question but with the hotswap pcb, can I use 3-pin switches on it?
Yes.
Will the hotswap PCB also support the 5 pin switches as well then for this keyboard? Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Soyul on Sun, 12 January 2020, 23:48:13
Pm me if you are looking to sell your spot. I'm looking for white, black, or pink +hotswap.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prangano on Sun, 12 January 2020, 23:59:26
Sorry if this is a newbie question but with the hotswap pcb, can I use 3-pin switches on it?
Yes.
Will the hotswap PCB also support the 5 pin switches as well then for this keyboard? Thanks for your help.
Yes, the photo of the hotswap PCB posted by senter shows that 5 pin switches are supported. It's here:

(https://i.imgur.com/lQ9gOrB.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: spektrum on Mon, 13 January 2020, 18:03:20
selling my spot - order #455 SOLD
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: johnny2304 on Wed, 15 January 2020, 23:00:28
it is a long time no update!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Wed, 15 January 2020, 23:05:45
Wouldnt expect an update until after Chinese New Year, unfortunately.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: hachi on Thu, 16 January 2020, 16:55:27
looking to sell my spot, order #519 for reference
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Mon, 20 January 2020, 16:30:04
Anyone with a hotswap pcb looking to sell their spot?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Tue, 21 January 2020, 12:00:19
willing to sell my spot. order #377 for reference
Nevermind.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 21 January 2020, 19:24:23
Update:

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Tue, 21 January 2020, 19:40:36
Awesome update. Glad to hear things are progressing as expected!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: o3okevin on Tue, 21 January 2020, 20:37:47
Sweet! End of February can't come soon enough.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Wed, 22 January 2020, 04:21:42
Thanks for the update, can't wait.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 22 January 2020, 06:41:19
Thanks for update, very cool.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Wed, 22 January 2020, 10:35:07
Update:

  • The CNC milling of all aluminum and brass parts has been completed as expected.
  • Around 50% of the PC parts have been finished. The factory left the PC parts to the last to mill because they recycle the metal chips and PC parts will pollute the metal chips. The rest PC parts will be milled within two weeks after CNY.
  • E-coating and anodizing will be started right after CNY. The milling of PC parts won't affect the e-coating and anodizing.
  • Everything is still expected to be finished in February. Shipping will start by the end of February if all goes well. Please note that even if shipping can start by the end of February, it will take around two weeks to ship all the boards out.


Should arrive the same time as WOB Hiragana, perfect timing. Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: KumaPe on Wed, 22 January 2020, 14:38:53
I'm looking for an extra solder pcb for this keyboard, if there's anyone who doesn't want their solder one anymore   
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ywcsam on Wed, 22 January 2020, 22:15:37
looking for a black/red combo if anyone is interested is selling their spot
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prangano on Sun, 26 January 2020, 22:46:47
Any chance there will be extra plates available? I’m regretting not getting a universal plate.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: beresford on Tue, 28 January 2020, 04:15:44
I am willing to sell my order (#0465). PM me if interested.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Tue, 28 January 2020, 20:11:04
I guess production is delayed for some time due to virus?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Tue, 28 January 2020, 20:15:04
I guess production is delayed for some time due to virus?

Let's wait for a real update rather than speculate.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Tue, 28 January 2020, 20:50:08
I guess production is delayed for some time due to virus?

Let's wait for a real update rather than speculate.

Some of the keyboard factories in Shenzen are halting their production saying their gov told them to so I would be extremely surprised if this one is not.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Mormur on Tue, 28 January 2020, 23:35:24
Interested in taking someones spot, green case without logo. Solder pcb. Doesn't matter if WK or WKL.

PM me
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Wed, 29 January 2020, 03:38:35
I guess production is delayed for some time due to virus?

Let's wait for a real update rather than speculate.

Some of the keyboard factories in Shenzen are halting their production saying their gov told them to so I would be extremely surprised if this one is not.

It seems to be every factory in shenzen is now ordered to close down until 2/9, so let the waiting begin and hope, that the people in the affected areas are safe!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 30 January 2020, 14:26:43
I guess production is delayed for some time due to virus?

I guess production is delayed for some time due to virus?

Let's wait for a real update rather than speculate.

I guess production is delayed for some time due to virus?

Let's wait for a real update rather than speculate.

Some of the keyboard factories in Shenzen are halting their production saying their gov told them to so I would be extremely surprised if this one is not.

It seems to be every factory in shenzen is now ordered to close down until 2/9, so let the waiting begin and hope, that the people in the affected areas are safe!

All original schedules will be delayed for corresponding days.
Due to to the coronavirus, all factories in Shenzhen are not allowed to open before 11:59pm 9 February.
Also, the public transportation (plane, train, bus) in most cities in China has been shutdown. People including the CNC machine operators and anodizing operators are not able to return to their post.
I'll keep you updated.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: tex_live_utility on Thu, 30 January 2020, 17:16:03
No rush, please stay safe!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Lucidity on Fri, 31 January 2020, 01:33:15
I've realized that I prefer a 7u spacebar layout, but I've ordered my plates all in 6.25u. If anybody would like to trade their 7u plates I would be interested. Preferably white or the clear finish. Pm me. I got a brass and alu plate both white, as well as a pc plate.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sun, 02 February 2020, 22:09:23
Removed
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Pikeo on Mon, 03 February 2020, 15:23:59
anyone looking to trade white wkl top corner blocker key version for a white wkl top
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 05 February 2020, 16:22:03
Nevermind!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: tex_live_utility on Wed, 05 February 2020, 20:54:24
Is this PCB going to have USB C or Mini?

Edit, found the answer: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=102609.msg2815455#msg2815455

That should be added to the OP.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Thu, 06 February 2020, 22:27:43
Removed
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: EvilemX8 on Sat, 08 February 2020, 16:33:15
WTS: Key65 GB at cost - $435 PayPal G&S
E-black top/mid
E-pink bottom
WKL, Top right Kanji
Brass and PC plate
 Brass Weight Kanji / E-clear
Extra PCB (non-HS)

Order# 342

PM me on Discord ellicose#0004 or Reddit /u/Evilem, otherwise may take forever to respond
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: akina on Sat, 08 February 2020, 21:30:38
why is that kb on top every day if the gb ended?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Sun, 09 February 2020, 09:09:42
Cos it hasn't shipped out?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: godofdeath on Mon, 10 February 2020, 21:19:25
If someone doesn't want their spot I'm interested.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Wed, 12 February 2020, 16:06:14
any idea if the factory has been started back up yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: rikercd on Wed, 12 February 2020, 16:40:31
Also looking to buy a spot. PM me what you've got and let's talk.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: bruceywane on Wed, 12 February 2020, 18:54:16
Looking for a spot!
Prefer black color. Please DM and we shall speak
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DanChap_ on Wed, 12 February 2020, 21:34:34
If anyone doesn't want their spot, I'll buy in--whatever you've got!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 12 February 2020, 21:41:25
I am still looking for another spot but in E-White color for a friend. Just send me PM. Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Antelope on Thu, 13 February 2020, 11:10:27
Looking to buy a spot for any dark color. PM if interested
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: brenbread on Fri, 14 February 2020, 11:12:25
Looking to buy someone's spot if they have anything in full PC or e-white. PM if interested, thanks!

Edit: with or without key logo is fine but key logo is preferred
Title: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Magas on Fri, 14 February 2020, 13:13:01
Looking for spot that's Full PolyCarb with Key logos on weight and top corner with full brass options in clear e-coat.

If someone is willing to trade their spot please message me! :)

Orders:

273
281
460
527
551
614
696
730
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: shxWN on Fri, 14 February 2020, 19:36:09
If anyone wants to sell their spot, please send me a PM as I would be more then happy to buy! Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thanhnv244 on Fri, 14 February 2020, 21:24:36
Want to sell my spot, full e-white and green weight.

Order number is 454.

Price is original price in the sheet + PP invoice fee (I think around 372$, may vary)

FYI: you will need to pay for shipping fee when senter ship the board out because original GB price does not included it.


Sold
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: juctinn on Sun, 16 February 2020, 10:30:00
Looking to buy a spot, poly carb or e-white version, with hotswap pcb, if anyone wants to sell their spot.

Feel free to PM. Thanks!


***Bought***

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sun, 16 February 2020, 19:44:32
any idea if the factory has been started back up yet?

Not yet, unfortunately. They tried to start but the electric power supply has been cut off.
The estimation of shipping is still one month after the production is fully recovered.
We don't know the exact time but it should be the same or earlier than all the other factories open.

Believe me, the factory owners want to start over more than anyone else.
They'd be willing to take the risk of their life to start manufacturing because if not, the factory could die.
The coronavirus is a disaster. Many restaurants with less abilities to take risks are already broke.
Our factory will do their best to complete the production asap.
I'll keep you updated as always.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Sun, 16 February 2020, 22:42:02
any idea if the factory has been started back up yet?

Not yet, unfortunately. They tried to start but the electric power supply has been cut off.
The estimation of shipping is still one month after the production is fully recovered.
We don't know the exact time but it should be the same or earlier than all the other factories open.

Believe me, the factory owners want to start over more than anyone else.
They'd be willing to take the risk of their life to start manufacturing because if not, the factory could die.
The coronavirus is a disaster. Many restaurants with less abilities to take risks are already broke.
Our factory will do their best to complete the production asap.
I'll keep you updated as always.

This is difficult to hear.  I hope everyone in china can make it through this coronavirus both in health and their livelyhood.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: 112227 on Mon, 17 February 2020, 04:18:51
My spot is up for grabs, 65% isn't my jam. Invoice # 715 for reference. One of a kind.

Top/mid/bottom is E-red
E-red brass plate
PC plate
E-red weight
brass top and bottom logo - key logos
7u layout with hotswap PCB

$383.15
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Mon, 17 February 2020, 14:18:56
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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Blackbeard on Mon, 17 February 2020, 14:43:36
Looking for E-White Spot...
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Magas on Mon, 17 February 2020, 14:58:13
Looking for E-White Spot...

This guy literally posted as selling and all e-white version not even 5 above...

https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=profile;u=54664
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: bruceywane on Mon, 17 February 2020, 15:58:15
Still looking for black alum with hotswap pcb + key logo
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Tenturo on Mon, 17 February 2020, 21:46:09
Looking to buy someones spot, and also want the black color. Prefer the hotswap PCB, but would also would be fine with solderable pcb. Feel free to PM me! Thanks guys!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: CamARush on Tue, 18 February 2020, 13:31:35
Looking to buy someones spot. Black case pref. Will pay extra. pm me at u/VegetarianDomo on reddit if interested.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kohsta on Tue, 18 February 2020, 14:13:57
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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: tehtecnoguy on Wed, 19 February 2020, 11:10:48
Looking to buy a board with a polycarb case no logo, full layout 6.25u spacebar, plate and weight material don't matter too much to me.

message me on discord at: tehtechnoguy#9297
I'm also u/tehtechnoguy on reddit if you want to send PMs there.

Also, hello geekhack!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: grbtch on Wed, 19 February 2020, 17:31:10
Looking to buy!

Came into this hobby a little after this GB and was really really sad I wasn't able to get one of these.  Looking for a WK E-white, PC, Black or Blue one.  Will consider any other colors though.  Also might be interested in 2 honestly.

Message me on Discord: shiny#3443
Or Reddit: u/grbtch
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jochsf on Thu, 20 February 2020, 05:41:32
Looking to buy a spot for white/black/grey or PC preferably with key logo. New to the game and really looking to get a 65%.

Hit me up on discord: Jordan#6486
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: orim23 on Thu, 20 February 2020, 06:13:48
why does suddenly everyone wants a spot in this? This thread was quiet for 3 months after the GB closed, what happend? Anyway the whole thing is now in coronavirus-limbo.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Thu, 20 February 2020, 06:39:58
why does suddenly everyone wants a spot in this? This thread was quiet for 3 months after the GB closed, what happend? Anyway the whole thing is now in coronavirus-limbo.
If you look closely, most of the people requesting the board are fresh accounts. Every now an then, when this thread jumps up to the top of the group buy section a lot of people who weren't on geekhack when it ran find out about it. And because it's a pretty cool board, people want in on it. Simple as that.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Thu, 20 February 2020, 06:49:53
why does suddenly everyone wants a spot in this? This thread was quiet for 3 months after the GB closed, what happend? Anyway the whole thing is now in coronavirus-limbo.
Because of . . .

1. Price
2. Will be shipped within 1-2 months once they resume production

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Thu, 20 February 2020, 10:54:55
why does suddenly everyone wants a spot in this? This thread was quiet for 3 months after the GB closed, what happend? Anyway the whole thing is now in coronavirus-limbo.

I really wouldn't say its in "limbo", foxlab has done successful runs in the past and most likely has a relationship with the factory manufacturing the board.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dwarflemur on Thu, 20 February 2020, 13:09:05
why does suddenly everyone wants a spot in this? This thread was quiet for 3 months after the GB closed, what happend? Anyway the whole thing is now in coronavirus-limbo.
If you look closely, most of the people requesting the board are fresh accounts. Every now an then, when this thread jumps up to the top of the group buy section a lot of people who weren't on geekhack when it ran find out about it. And because it's a pretty cool board, people want in on it. Simple as that.

I guess, it still seems weird though. I sure as hell wouldn't sell my spot to someone with no pic and few posts though.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: orim23 on Thu, 20 February 2020, 14:53:43
why does suddenly everyone wants a spot in this? This thread was quiet for 3 months after the GB closed, what happend? Anyway the whole thing is now in coronavirus-limbo.

I really wouldn't say its in "limbo", foxlab has done successful runs in the past and most likely has a relationship with the factory manufacturing the board.
yes. I have a Leaf60 and I've got two spots in this one. I don't doubt Foxlab/senter. Its just that it will take time to get back to "normal" for all the factories in china, so this GB might take some additional weeks.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: d00deitsnik on Thu, 20 February 2020, 15:12:47
why does suddenly everyone wants a spot in this? This thread was quiet for 3 months after the GB closed, what happend? Anyway the whole thing is now in coronavirus-limbo.
If you look closely, most of the people requesting the board are fresh accounts. Every now an then, when this thread jumps up to the top of the group buy section a lot of people who weren't on geekhack when it ran find out about it. And because it's a pretty cool board, people want in on it. Simple as that.

I guess, it still seems weird though. I sure as hell wouldn't sell my spot to someone with no pic and few posts though.

It makes sense if you think about it though. Tfue brought mechanical keyboards to a wider audience, so there are a lot of new comers interested in picking up boards from group buys they didn't get a chance to join. Even people that have been in the community but still missed out (me, maybe other people, mostly me) would consider buying such a nice board like this.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: rikercd on Thu, 20 February 2020, 15:52:59
why does suddenly everyone wants a spot in this? This thread was quiet for 3 months after the GB closed, what happend? Anyway the whole thing is now in coronavirus-limbo.
If you look closely, most of the people requesting the board are fresh accounts. Every now an then, when this thread jumps up to the top of the group buy section a lot of people who weren't on geekhack when it ran find out about it. And because it's a pretty cool board, people want in on it. Simple as that.

I guess, it still seems weird though. I sure as hell wouldn't sell my spot to someone with no pic and few posts though.

It makes sense if you think about it though. Tfue brought mechanical keyboards to a wider audience, so there are a lot of new comers interested in picking up boards from group buys they didn't get a chance to join. Even people that have been in the community but still missed out (me, maybe other people, mostly me) would consider buying such a nice board like this.

Precisely. I didn't seriously dive into this hobby until a few months ago (first order was on black friday), and I just found out this board exists. Looks really nice and I'd like to get one.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: grbtch on Thu, 20 February 2020, 19:12:38
why does suddenly everyone wants a spot in this? This thread was quiet for 3 months after the GB closed, what happend? Anyway the whole thing is now in coronavirus-limbo.
If you look closely, most of the people requesting the board are fresh accounts. Every now an then, when this thread jumps up to the top of the group buy section a lot of people who weren't on geekhack when it ran find out about it. And because it's a pretty cool board, people want in on it. Simple as that.

I guess, it still seems weird though. I sure as hell wouldn't sell my spot to someone with no pic and few posts though.

Fair enough.  That's why I included my Reddit handle because even though I'm new here doesn't mean I'm new everywhere else.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Magas on Thu, 20 February 2020, 20:28:30
Same here as well.

U/magascorada

Just thought it was a REALLY neat looking board and it would be nice to be able to get in on it. Especially since there are those of you who bought multiples as stated above.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ElKapitain on Fri, 21 February 2020, 14:42:57
Willing to buy a spot for some extra, r/C4pitain
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: hachi on Fri, 21 February 2020, 22:13:35
looking to sell my spot, order #519 for reference

still looking to sell spot r/amuseag or hachi#8803
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cyferous on Sat, 22 February 2020, 01:35:32
Looking to get in on a spot with a black key top in any other color-way/layout!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: juctinn on Sun, 23 February 2020, 05:11:07
Interested in trading my e-white with kanji logo (order #454) for an e-white or PC with key logo.

Will pay or invoice the price difference.

Feel free to PM, thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thanhnv244 on Mon, 24 February 2020, 03:02:41
Interested in trading my e-white with kanji logo (order #454) for an e-white or PC with key logo.

Will pay or invoice the price difference.

Feel free to PM, thanks!

What happened ?? You don't like kanji logo anymore :D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: juctinn on Mon, 24 February 2020, 03:08:06
Interested in trading my e-white with kanji logo (order #454) for an e-white or PC with key logo.

Will pay or invoice the price difference.

Feel free to PM, thanks!

What happened ?? You don't like kanji logo anymore :D
Haha I love both the kanji and key logo, but I cant afford both though :)

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Tue, 25 February 2020, 09:54:14
Are factories still down this week?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 25 February 2020, 11:18:21
Are factories still down this week?

The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Tue, 25 February 2020, 11:23:20
Are factories still down this week?

The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.

Thanks Senter!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 25 February 2020, 11:42:35
Are factories still down this week?

The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.

Thanks Senter!

No problem. The anodizing and e-coating workshop should start in early March and finish the work by the end of March.

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Tue, 25 February 2020, 13:52:29
This is great news!  Hope all the workers are safe!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: muppen on Tue, 25 February 2020, 18:16:18
anyone else scared of the extra fees in EU?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 26 February 2020, 04:04:19
Are factories still down this week?

The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.

Thanks Senter!

No problem. The anodizing and e-coating workshop should start in early March and finish the work by the end of March.

That's nice.

Wanted to ask if this have box? just like the leaf60?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prototype26 on Wed, 26 February 2020, 04:43:32
Are factories still down this week?

The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.

Thanks Senter!

No problem. The anodizing and e-coating workshop should start in early March and finish the work by the end of March.

That's nice.

Wanted to ask if this have box? just like the leaf60?

Uh, yes? The keyboard shouldn't come in a plastic bag.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 26 February 2020, 07:16:14
Are factories still down this week?

The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.

Thanks Senter!

No problem. The anodizing and e-coating workshop should start in early March and finish the work by the end of March.

That's nice.

Wanted to ask if this have box? just like the leaf60?

Uh, yes? The keyboard shouldn't come in a plastic bag.

Are factories still down this week?

The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.

Thanks Senter!

No problem. The anodizing and e-coating workshop should start in early March and finish the work by the end of March.

That's nice.

Wanted to ask if this have box? just like the leaf60?

Uh, yes? The keyboard shouldn't come in a plastic bag.

Of course it will not. I am asking if the packing have branding or just plain box/foam
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Wed, 26 February 2020, 07:25:33
Are factories still down this week?

The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.

Thanks Senter!

No problem. The anodizing and e-coating workshop should start in early March and finish the work by the end of March.

Any estimated date for when all of production will be done? including poly parts and pcbs
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dwarflemur on Wed, 26 February 2020, 13:37:05
Are factories still down this week?

The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.

Thanks Senter!

No problem. The anodizing and e-coating workshop should start in early March and finish the work by the end of March.

That's nice.

Wanted to ask if this have box? just like the leaf60?

Uh, yes? The keyboard shouldn't come in a plastic bag.

Are factories still down this week?

The CNC milling workshop was resumed. The anodizing and e-coating workshop hasn't.

Thanks Senter!

No problem. The anodizing and e-coating workshop should start in early March and finish the work by the end of March.

That's nice.

Wanted to ask if this have box? just like the leaf60?

Uh, yes? The keyboard shouldn't come in a plastic bag.

Of course it will not. I am asking if the packing have branding or just plain box/foam

Who cares? Why does it matter?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ComebaX on Wed, 26 February 2020, 21:18:11
Hi all, I am looking to give up my GB spot at the price I paid.
-Gray Top/Middle
-Pink Bottom w/ Gray Key Logo on weight
-Pink Brass Plate
Order #324/395 (it is 50 on the spreadsheet)

If you are interested, please contact me on discord at ComebaX#5290 or on reddit  https://www.reddit.com/user/ComebaX_ as I check both of these everyday, thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: cyrilously on Sat, 29 February 2020, 19:27:01
Selling spots at cost
- WKL hotswap
- key top and weight
- case (top, mid, bot, weight): black, red, black, brass red (suits sanctuary build)
 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ke59MgAsZ6ndgRrGKoOHbbexn5sZshrAS9p2pbRq0U0/edit#gid=0&range=A296

- WK non hotswap with extra pcb
- key top and weight
- case: blue, blue, space grey, alu yellow (suits nautilus/symbiosis)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ke59MgAsZ6ndgRrGKoOHbbexn5sZshrAS9p2pbRq0U0/edit#gid=0&range=A297

Please PM through discord doublethink#1984 if you are interested, thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 04 March 2020, 11:30:05
Update:

1. The anodizing and E-coating workshops have all been opened now.
2. They are working on polishing and sandblasting. The quality looks great. (will get some photos tomorrow)
3. The manufacturing should be finished by the end of this month.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: o3okevin on Wed, 04 March 2020, 11:47:54
Update:

1. The anodizing and E-coating workshops have all been opened now.
2. They are working on polishing and sandblasting. The quality looks great. (will get some photos tomorrow)
3. The manufacturing should be finished by the end of this month.

Great news!!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 04 March 2020, 13:51:15
Thanks for the positive update!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Wed, 04 March 2020, 14:07:02
Fantastic news! Hopefully none of the workers are put at risk to resume the production.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Wed, 04 March 2020, 16:23:38
yes gimmee those photos!!!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Wed, 04 March 2020, 19:35:36
woo, can't wait!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 05 March 2020, 09:23:02
Update:

1. The anodizing and E-coating workshops have all been opened now.
2. They are working on polishing and sandblasting. The quality looks great. (will get some photos tomorrow)
3. The manufacturing should be finished by the end of this month.

(https://i.imgur.com/ybDeMGE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UTPhyOn.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/fCvkFXL.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ftJyGH4.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/15D9AnO.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/L2vAaC8.jpg)

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vincevelorn on Thu, 05 March 2020, 09:39:36
Ooo good stuff!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Thu, 05 March 2020, 10:08:37
oh baby!!!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Mormur on Thu, 05 March 2020, 10:35:37
Interested in taking someones spot, green case without logo. Solder pcb. Doesn't matter if WK or WKL.

PM me

Still looking for a spot, green or ewhite.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: JinDevil on Thu, 05 March 2020, 10:36:43
Looking to buy a GB spot

Preferably WKL Red, Black, but open to any colour.
Solder PCB or Hotswap is fine
Key logo top right

PM Jin#0666 on discord to contact me.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kohsta on Thu, 05 March 2020, 13:17:14
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO  :D ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Thu, 05 March 2020, 17:04:47
is that a white PCB i spy.....
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Thu, 05 March 2020, 17:22:30
I'm so giddy over this. Nice packaging too. Invoice me for shipping, fam. :D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kurple on Thu, 05 March 2020, 19:39:26
I'm loving the white pcb!

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Thu, 05 March 2020, 20:58:00
Looking Good!
Those boxes too yum yum yum  :eek: :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Fri, 06 March 2020, 05:05:43
Looking to buy an extra pcb!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 06 March 2020, 12:29:17
oh hell yeah nice photos!!!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Fri, 06 March 2020, 13:32:28
Are the hotswap PCBs that same gray color?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 06 March 2020, 20:53:25
There was a debate after the initial photo if the PCBs should be white or yellow. Guess we ended up with a white one afterall.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Mon, 09 March 2020, 11:31:49
Any pictures of the machined PC plates or boards?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 11 March 2020, 00:34:45
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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: AMONster on Wed, 11 March 2020, 00:51:10
Is there anyone selling their GB spot? Preferably E-white
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: YoRHannya on Thu, 12 March 2020, 12:29:15
Looking to buy a spot,
hoping for a E-Pink version! Message me here or on reddit u/Sweet_Saccharin

Thank you!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Pikeo on Fri, 13 March 2020, 14:25:36
I would trade an e white unit for a anodized blue unit. pm me on reddit u/magnor231
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Fri, 13 March 2020, 14:31:09
I would consider trading my PC, wk, with green key logos for an e-white wk, green logos (preferred)
Order 0302 p1

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: outsider on Fri, 13 March 2020, 21:37:28
Any extras planned?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kchlam on Sat, 14 March 2020, 01:34:45
looking to buy a GB spot with e white/black/mid night green/pc. PM me via /u/babyattacker on reddit or instagram @kchlam if you have a spot you'd want to offer!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sun, 15 March 2020, 23:09:12
Update some photos:
 
(https://i.imgur.com/3Hhws3f.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/szUsBhV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/28NFR3n.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/I8ZefIk.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kurple on Sun, 15 March 2020, 23:12:05
Looks amazing!

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: o3okevin on Sun, 15 March 2020, 23:34:06
oh baby
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: synthtastic on Sun, 15 March 2020, 23:44:23
Late to the game here but dayum. Is that the POM red in the pic? Gorgeous.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: bananafritters on Mon, 16 March 2020, 03:19:11
Cant wait for my Key65.. Thanks senter
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Soraie on Mon, 16 March 2020, 10:11:13
Thank you Senter! So excited to almost have it all ready to ship!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Mon, 16 March 2020, 10:15:22
Damn, that is a nice finish.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Mon, 16 March 2020, 10:37:22
oh ma gawd  :eek: :eek: :eek: yummy
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fakedSkill on Mon, 16 March 2020, 13:31:33
Update some photos:

Those look amazing 🤤 Cant wait!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Mon, 16 March 2020, 13:41:37
HOL LEE FUK
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Mon, 16 March 2020, 13:59:55
Damn!! That PC Senter Piece will look awesome with backlighting. I so wish I had gone with the PC Middle  :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Mon, 16 March 2020, 14:20:55
Damn!! That PC Senter Piece will look awesome with backlighting. I so wish I had gone with the PC Middle  :(

"Senter piece" - I see what you did there, haha. 
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Mon, 16 March 2020, 15:25:53
any estimated ship dates or still unknown?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Mon, 16 March 2020, 17:50:26
*excitement intensifies*
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Mon, 16 March 2020, 21:10:25
any estimated ship dates or still unknown?

dont quote me on this but im assuming april as production will be completed late march!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Mon, 16 March 2020, 21:17:12
Does the pcb have esd protection?
Hoping someone can explain to me about esd on keyboards. Does it matter? Unless the PCB touches the surface of aluminum back cover.

I already soldered / desoldered more than 100 keyboards. Some are cheap, some are expensive.


Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Tue, 17 March 2020, 09:36:24
Does the pcb have esd protection?
Hoping someone can explain to me about esd on keyboards. Does it matter? Unless the PCB touches the surface of aluminum back cover.

I already soldered / desoldered more than 100 keyboards. Some are cheap, some are expensive.

I have had 2 PCBs break on me recently so esd protection is something i look for in PCBs now. I would also like to know if the foxlab PCB has esd protection.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Quasimodo on Tue, 17 March 2020, 14:24:22
Does the pcb have esd protection?
Hoping someone can explain to me about esd on keyboards. Does it matter? Unless the PCB touches the surface of aluminum back cover.

I already soldered / desoldered more than 100 keyboards. Some are cheap, some are expensive.

I have had 2 PCBs break on me recently so esd protection is something i look for in PCBs now. I would also like to know if the foxlab PCB has esd protection.

As far as I'm aware, he's said the PCBs with the PC cases will have ESD protection. It's not necessary with the Alu cases.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Tue, 17 March 2020, 14:50:39
Does the pcb have esd protection?
Hoping someone can explain to me about esd on keyboards. Does it matter? Unless the PCB touches the surface of aluminum back cover.

I already soldered / desoldered more than 100 keyboards. Some are cheap, some are expensive.

I have had 2 PCBs break on me recently so esd protection is something i look for in PCBs now. I would also like to know if the foxlab PCB has esd protection.

As far as I'm aware, he's said the PCBs with the PC cases will have ESD protection. It's not necessary with the Alu cases.

Interesting, both of my fried PCBs were in Alu cases but ok, thx for the info!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dwarflemur on Tue, 17 March 2020, 16:06:28
Does the pcb have esd protection?
Hoping someone can explain to me about esd on keyboards. Does it matter? Unless the PCB touches the surface of aluminum back cover.

I already soldered / desoldered more than 100 keyboards. Some are cheap, some are expensive.

I have had 2 PCBs break on me recently so esd protection is something i look for in PCBs now. I would also like to know if the foxlab PCB has esd protection.

As far as I'm aware, he's said the PCBs with the PC cases will have ESD protection. It's not necessary with the Alu cases.

That's just not true...
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ljccyez on Tue, 17 March 2020, 16:49:21
Looking to buy an extra one!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prototype26 on Tue, 17 March 2020, 19:28:26
Does the pcb have esd protection?
Hoping someone can explain to me about esd on keyboards. Does it matter? Unless the PCB touches the surface of aluminum back cover.

I already soldered / desoldered more than 100 keyboards. Some are cheap, some are expensive.

I have had 2 PCBs break on me recently so esd protection is something i look for in PCBs now. I would also like to know if the foxlab PCB has esd protection.

As far as I'm aware, he's said the PCBs with the PC cases will have ESD protection. It's not necessary with the Alu cases.

Since when is plastic more conductive than alu
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Tue, 17 March 2020, 19:30:33
Does the pcb have esd protection?
Hoping someone can explain to me about esd on keyboards. Does it matter? Unless the PCB touches the surface of aluminum back cover.

I already soldered / desoldered more than 100 keyboards. Some are cheap, some are expensive.

I have had 2 PCBs break on me recently so esd protection is something i look for in PCBs now. I would also like to know if the foxlab PCB has esd protection.

As far as I'm aware, he's said the PCBs with the PC cases will have ESD protection. It's not necessary with the Alu cases.

Since when is plastic more conductive than alu

Plastic = static magnet.  Alu not so much.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ConfuseBill on Tue, 17 March 2020, 20:49:56
Update some photos:
 
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Looks so Yummy, Yummy, Yummy, Yumm.

Any Yellow top with PC Bottom pics?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kchlam on Thu, 19 March 2020, 03:18:53
Is there a typing test by any chance? Would love to hear how the board sounds :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Thu, 19 March 2020, 13:00:01
Is there a typing test by any chance? Would love to hear how the board sounds :)

so many different combinations of materials in terms of this board that i find it a bit redundant as you wont get the same sound signature unless you have the exact same board
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Thu, 19 March 2020, 17:16:39
yah plus switches, person typing, lube, elevation, microphone, headphones. whats the point of ever doing a typing test really!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Thu, 19 March 2020, 17:44:49
I guess what we dont have is test fitting of tolerances. Not sure if it was discussed in IC stage.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: cicy1030 on Thu, 19 March 2020, 22:45:56
Anybody to sell a spot for Aluminum-Anodizing-Gray/Blue/Green top case?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: shxWN on Fri, 20 March 2020, 14:54:34
looking to buy a spot, PM me here or DM me on discord @ shawn#1337. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: abellp327 on Fri, 20 March 2020, 19:07:33
Also looking for a spot. preferably e-white!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Fri, 27 March 2020, 00:57:50
any ETA for shipping to begin avail?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Fri, 27 March 2020, 11:06:49
hope manufacturing is on schedule and we can all get some good news during these stressful times!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 27 March 2020, 21:52:39
We'll be lucky if this thing even ships during times like these.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: AlbinoJellyfish on Sat, 28 March 2020, 09:53:16
We'll be lucky if this thing even ships during times like these.
In most places, United States for sure, manufacturing and logistics (shipping) are considered essential businesses.


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Sat, 28 March 2020, 18:40:28
We'll be lucky if this thing even ships during times like these.

Polaris shipped out recently and it was pretty heavily impacted by the whole covid19 situation. Don't see why this can't ship out as well.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 28 March 2020, 19:49:02
Because even KBDfans has stopped shipping to EU very recently until further notice. If KBDfans stopped shipping again, why would these ship? Again I could be wrong and that would be great, but I prepare myself for playing some more levels of the waiting game.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sun, 29 March 2020, 12:02:23
Update:

1. All the anodization has been finished.
2. The E-coating has been finished for most colors.
3. All the manufacturing will be finished in 2 days except for E-pink.
4. QC should take around 10 days or so by our estimation.
5. We're looking to start the shipping mid-April.
6. The shipping to the USA is still possible through DHL. I'll confirm the shipping to other countries in the following days.

(https://i.imgur.com/PeVXwBL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gm5sQAd.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7xjiaoh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/f3urW4B.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/e4SHUyf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pWgJqw3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WKlGmp9.jpg)

It was extremely difficult to push everything moving forward as scheduled.
Due to the CNY and COVID-19, This GB has spent the highest turnaround time for us in the 4 years since we joined the community.
The wait is almost over. Thank you all for your patience.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: o3okevin on Sun, 29 March 2020, 12:07:45
Update:

1. All the anodization has been finished.
2. The E-coating has been finished for most colors.
3. All the manufacturing will be finished in 2 days except for E-pink.
4. QC should take around 10 days or so by our estimation.
5. We're looking to start the shipping mid-April.
6. The shipping to the USA is still possible through DHL. I'll confirm the shipping to other countries in the following days.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/PeVXwBL.jpg)

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Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/WKlGmp9.jpg)


It was extremely difficult to push everything moving forward as scheduled.
Due to the CNY and COVID-19, This GB has spent the highest turnaround time for us in the 4 years since we joined the community.
The wait is almost over. Thank you all for your patience.

Huge update! Really appreciate the hard work from you and the Fox Labs team Senter.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: bananafritters on Sun, 29 March 2020, 13:18:42
Thanks senter..
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Sun, 29 March 2020, 13:42:14
We know you're doing the best you can senter.  The boards are looking great and can't wait to get my hands on it!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Sun, 29 March 2020, 14:59:01
This quarantine is making me go insane, need a keyboard to build :P thanks for all the work and can't wait
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Sun, 29 March 2020, 16:08:28
Thanks For The Update Picture  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Sun, 29 March 2020, 16:24:15
Update:

1. All the anodization has been finished.
2. The E-coating has been finished for most colors.
3. All the manufacturing will be finished in 2 days except for E-pink.
4. QC should take around 10 days or so by our estimation.
5. We're looking to start the shipping mid-April.
6. The shipping to the USA is still possible through DHL. I'll confirm the shipping to other countries in the following days.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/PeVXwBL.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/gm5sQAd.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/7xjiaoh.jpg)

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(https://i.imgur.com/f3urW4B.jpg)

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(https://i.imgur.com/e4SHUyf.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/pWgJqw3.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/WKlGmp9.jpg)


It was extremely difficult to push everything moving forward as scheduled.
Due to the CNY and COVID-19, This GB has spent the highest turnaround time for us in the 4 years since we joined the community.
The wait is almost over. Thank you all for your patience.

Omg.. this is so beautiful
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sun, 29 March 2020, 17:42:22
Update:

1. All the anodization has been finished.
2. The E-coating has been finished for most colors.
3. All the manufacturing will be finished in 2 days except for E-pink.
4. QC should take around 10 days or so by our estimation.
5. We're looking to start the shipping mid-April.
6. The shipping to the USA is still possible through DHL. I'll confirm the shipping to other countries in the following days.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/PeVXwBL.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/gm5sQAd.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/7xjiaoh.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/f3urW4B.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/e4SHUyf.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/pWgJqw3.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/WKlGmp9.jpg)


It was extremely difficult to push everything moving forward as scheduled.
Due to the CNY and COVID-19, This GB has spent the highest turnaround time for us in the 4 years since we joined the community.
The wait is almost over. Thank you all for your patience.
E-pink included in mid April releasing of items? I hope you will also test the fitting of e-colored plate and case.

Thanks for the update!


Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Sun, 29 March 2020, 20:48:43
Damn, looking at these photos makes me regret not getting an anodized green board. Looks stunning. Great job, senter.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Sun, 29 March 2020, 22:17:02
i live west coast and got DHL ship from england in two days came no problem so great news. cant wait to get my hands on it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Sun, 29 March 2020, 22:38:06
Dang, seeing all these color finishes I'm thinking I made a mistake going all PC. Anyway, thanks for the updates Senter.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: audax989 on Sun, 29 March 2020, 23:30:39
Great News! Really looking forward to this.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Mon, 30 March 2020, 00:04:01
The aluminum boards look great! Especially those keylogo weights!  Any pictures of the PC boards?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Mon, 30 March 2020, 08:18:38
Damn, looking at these photos makes me regret not getting an anodized green board. Looks stunning. Great job, senter.

same!  Though i'm sure I'll be super happy with e-white as well!

senter, is it possible to have the pcb compatible with via?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Mon, 30 March 2020, 15:45:10
The aluminum boards look great! Especially those keylogo weights!  Any pictures of the PC boards?

I second this! Pics of the PC Boards would be nice to see :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: PotatoTM on Mon, 30 March 2020, 21:33:45
I just received an email about address confirmation which will then become a PP invoice for the shipping cost from a “runninghack@gmail.com”, can you confirm that this is you? And maybe list out the email accounts you might use for PayPal invoicing, this way we know which ones are real.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Mon, 30 March 2020, 22:00:20
I just received an email about address confirmation which will then become a PP invoice for the shipping cost from a “runninghack@gmail.com”, can you confirm that this is you? And maybe list out the email accounts you might use for PayPal invoicing, this way we know which ones are real.

I got the same email
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: o3okevin on Mon, 30 March 2020, 22:02:01
I just received an email about address confirmation which will then become a PP invoice for the shipping cost from a “runninghack@gmail.com”, can you confirm that this is you? And maybe list out the email accounts you might use for PayPal invoicing, this way we know which ones are real.
Senter's used the same email address to send out news re: Key65 before, it's legit
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Mon, 30 March 2020, 22:02:52
Which country you are and how much sf? What courier?

I havent receive invoice yet.

Senter said shipping will start mid April. Wait for confirmation before paying.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Mon, 30 March 2020, 22:17:12
Which country you are and how much sf? What courier?

I havent receive invoice yet.

Senter said shipping will start mid April. Wait for confirmation before paying.

it's not an invoice, it's a confirmation of address.

I went ahead and responded to it - seems legit to me.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: cornballin on Tue, 31 March 2020, 09:23:40
I have PC and E-yellow coming and I would be super excited to see a picture of one or both of those!   ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MadsMe on Tue, 31 March 2020, 10:58:17
I have PC and E-yellow coming and I would be super excited to see a picture of one or both of those!   ;D

He has posted pictures of a red and PC combo earlier
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Dennyroxsox on Tue, 31 March 2020, 14:14:34
The early pics look amazing! I'm so happy I joined this GB!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Tue, 31 March 2020, 23:26:28
Senter, I have sent a pm on gh regarding address confirmation. Please check your inbox, thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 01 April 2020, 12:20:02
Looks awesome! Thank you for the update. Any photos of poly parts?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 01 April 2020, 12:24:11
Looks awesome! Thank you for the update. Any photos of poly parts?

He posted a picture of half red half poly a while back, before this update.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: edctog on Wed, 01 April 2020, 19:20:43
I would like to buy TWO GB spots for either the PC or POM version. Please PM me here or on reddit u/teatog. Thank you.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Wed, 01 April 2020, 19:49:07
More Pictures!!! Need Too See The White And Red PC  :-*
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Wed, 01 April 2020, 21:38:57
Has anyone else not received an email asking for address verification? You guys got me nervous now.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 01 April 2020, 21:41:45
Has anyone else not received an email asking for address verification? You guys got me nervous now.
Not yet receive it.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: The Equals D on Wed, 01 April 2020, 22:12:30
Has anyone else not received an email asking for address verification? You guys got me nervous now.
Not yet receive it.

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Just checked, same for me
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: deathjester on Thu, 02 April 2020, 04:42:24
I guess it would depend which batch you're in (I was batch 3, the last to be invoiced originally); or which country.

I don't have one yet either.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Thu, 02 April 2020, 04:51:16
I guess it would depend which batch you're in (I was batch 3, the last to be invoiced originally); or which country.

I don't have one yet either.

Same here, I'm in 3rd batch and haven't gotten confirmation email for address yet.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Thu, 02 April 2020, 05:01:50
I guess it would depend which batch you're in (I was batch 3, the last to be invoiced originally); or which country.

I don't have one yet either.

Same here, I'm in 3rd batch and haven't gotten confirmation email for address yet.

And I just purchased a spot 1st week of Feb ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: AlbinoJellyfish on Thu, 02 April 2020, 10:17:15
Could be invoiced based upon package completion. From a logistics stand point it makes sense to send the address verification after you’ve finished qc for that specific order, regardless of position on sheet.


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Thu, 02 April 2020, 10:27:33
Could be invoiced based upon package completion. From a logistics stand point it makes sense to send the address verification after you’ve finished qc for that specific order, regardless of position on sheet.


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Definitely possible - let's hope we're there!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Thu, 02 April 2020, 12:32:58
I guess it would depend which batch you're in (I was batch 3, the last to be invoiced originally); or which country.

I don't have one yet either.

Same here, I'm in 3rd batch and haven't gotten confirmation email for address yet.

I was in the first batch of orders to be invoiced and I have not received anything yet, that being said, I ordered a full PC board and it seems like most of the people getting address confirmation emails have ordered the alu variants.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Thu, 02 April 2020, 16:31:36
I was in the first batch of orders to be invoiced and I have not received anything yet, that being said, I ordered a full PC board and it seems like most of the people getting address confirmation emails have ordered the alu variants.

..omni?

Can confirm, though.  I ordered the green alu version.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Thu, 02 April 2020, 17:39:55
Also can confirm, I have a PC order and have not received the confirmation

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: NoxNoxNox on Thu, 02 April 2020, 19:37:10
For what its worth I was also in the first batch, but no notices yet.  Not Polycarb.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Fri, 03 April 2020, 20:33:09
I got an email for shipping address because the info I put was unclear or wrong. I wouldn't expect anything unless senter needs confirmations.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: IIFOXII on Sat, 04 April 2020, 03:25:24
Is there any way of potentially still getting one of these?  I know its a long shot but thought maybe a list for cancelled orders or something.  It's a long shot i know but i just love these and the fact its my namesake is just perfect. 
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kenny20x2 on Sat, 04 April 2020, 04:53:58
Is there any way of potentially still getting one of these?  I know its a long shot but thought maybe a list for cancelled orders or something.  It's a long shot i know but i just love these and the fact its my namesake is just perfect.

You're best bet is probably trying to buy someone's spot in the GB. Not sure if there's gonna be an extras sale.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MadsMe on Sat, 04 April 2020, 04:56:31
Is there any way of potentially still getting one of these?  I know its a long shot but thought maybe a list for cancelled orders or something.  It's a long shot i know but i just love these and the fact its my namesake is just perfect.

Another option is to wait for them to arrive and keep and eye out on r/mechmarket. There will undoubtebly be alot going on sale.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sun, 05 April 2020, 06:17:32
Is the kanji logo on top deep enough to be infilled?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: martensson on Mon, 06 April 2020, 07:42:22
Looking to sell my spot unfortunately, was really looking forward to it, but moving abroad... :/

Full PC, WK, Kanji logo, and clear brass. See order #XXX. Discord: bmartensson#9228

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: oouf on Mon, 06 April 2020, 09:02:37
Long shot but anyone looking to sell an E-white slot?

reddit: u/oouf
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Mon, 06 April 2020, 11:20:47
PC order here. no message yet...
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Mon, 06 April 2020, 19:50:44
More pictures please, need to see more  :-*
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Tue, 07 April 2020, 04:02:38
If anyone still wants to sell their spot, I would like to buy a white, black, yellow, or PC spot please!  You can PM or add me on discord dommyy#0137
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kenny20x2 on Tue, 07 April 2020, 04:18:48
looking to buy a Black and pink case. If you want can trade my ewhite GB spot
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jauny on Tue, 07 April 2020, 09:24:51
I'd love a PC or blue, if you changed your mind let me know by PM :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Tue, 07 April 2020, 13:29:22
will the pcb be compatible with VIA by any chance?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vector88 on Tue, 07 April 2020, 13:43:37
Looking to buy a spot. Or keyboard, I read through thread and still does not fully undestand how it works. But I long for PC or Yellow version (or purple/pink/violet). If anyone order transparrent like in the first picture or yellow case (either e-yellow or pom) and does not want it, I would be super glad and interested. Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Tue, 07 April 2020, 20:16:24
will the pcb be compatible with VIA by any chance?

hopefully it can
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Tue, 07 April 2020, 23:02:57
I just realized I screwed the bottom weight key logo colors up. Is anyone interested in swapping a black bottom weight key logo for my teal bottom logo? If someone wants to swap their teal bottom for my black one, that'd work, too.

Shot in the dark, I know!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MadsMe on Wed, 08 April 2020, 13:21:25
When you get an address confirmation do you also get a shipping notification. Or is that coming after we get everyone confirmed?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: nu_types on Wed, 08 April 2020, 15:19:12
When you get an address confirmation do you also get a shipping notification. Or is that coming after we get everyone confirmed?

I imagine that if you get an address confirmation you won't get the shipping confirmation until later once you've confirmed your address.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: gummybur on Wed, 08 April 2020, 23:11:52
Would like to buy a spot Black WK, don't mind if logos on or off. Can pm me on discord at gummi#5450
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: nettoxx7 on Thu, 09 April 2020, 00:16:07
Looking to buy any color spot if possible, PM me :)

Thank you
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: deathjester on Thu, 09 April 2020, 04:06:30
When you get an address confirmation do you also get a shipping notification. Or is that coming after we get everyone confirmed?

Or until you've paid your shipping invoice...
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kenny20x2 on Thu, 09 April 2020, 08:22:01
selling my spot. order number 567. dm me. discord Ken92#4771
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MadsMe on Thu, 09 April 2020, 10:21:40
When you get an address confirmation do you also get a shipping notification. Or is that coming after we get everyone confirmed?

Or until you've paid your shipping invoice...

Ah yeah ofc. Forgot about the shipping invoice. Thought we had done that.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Magas on Thu, 09 April 2020, 21:05:11
Repost_

Looking for spot that's Full PolyCarb with Key logos on weight and top corner with full brass options in clear e-coat.

If someone is willing to trade their spot please message me! :)

Orders:

273
281
460
527
551
614
696
730
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Thu, 09 April 2020, 22:08:00
Repost_

Looking for spot that's Full PolyCarb with Key logos on weight and top corner with full brass options in clear e-coat.

If someone is willing to trade their spot please message me! :)

Orders:

273
281
460
527
551
614
696
730

Arranging local group buy?  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Magas on Thu, 09 April 2020, 22:15:54
If they were local that would be DOPE but alas they are the only orders full poly carb with key logos in brass. My preferred buy.

Just hoping by chance one of them becomes available.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Thu, 09 April 2020, 22:28:47
If they were local that would be DOPE but alas they are the only orders full poly carb with key logos in brass. My preferred buy.

Just hoping by chance one of them becomes available.

Oh now I get it. You just mentioned the orders that you are interested.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: nicx on Fri, 10 April 2020, 01:52:38
Man, do I really regret backing out on this.

Have we seen the machined logo on PC yet? The main reason I backed out was because I wanted that logo on PC but wasn’t sure exactly how it would look.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: lanyusea on Fri, 10 April 2020, 02:37:01
guys~ it's happening!

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/20633
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Fri, 10 April 2020, 03:38:51
guys~ it's happening!

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/20633

thanks for sharing.

hoping to receive updates from senter.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Fri, 10 April 2020, 04:37:29
guys~ it's happening!

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/20633
Oh ****, this is almost the exact same config that I've ordered. Looks great! :D Can't wait.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 10 April 2020, 07:03:29
Damn it, so it's time to figure out what switch to put in it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Fri, 10 April 2020, 08:12:59
can't wait!!!

are we getting two of those silicon pads between the plate and pcb if we got an extra pcb I wonder?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Fri, 10 April 2020, 08:47:50
can't wait!!!

are we getting two of those silicon pads between the plate and pcb if we got an extra pcb I wonder?
Maybe not since you can reuse it.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Fri, 10 April 2020, 09:43:43
can't wait!!!

are we getting two of those silicon pads between the plate and pcb if we got an extra pcb I wonder?
Maybe not since you can reuse it.

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hard to reuse it without desoldering the pcb to get at it, which kind of defeats the purpose of having the extra plate and pcb.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Fri, 10 April 2020, 09:51:24
can't wait!!!

are we getting two of those silicon pads between the plate and pcb if we got an extra pcb I wonder?
Maybe not since you can reuse it.

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hard to reuse it without desoldering the pcb to get at it, which kind of defeats the purpose of having the extra plate and pcb.
You only mentioned having extra pcb.

Hopefully it have extra foam if ordered extra pcb+plate

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: wilarseny on Fri, 10 April 2020, 13:09:26
rip the green orders :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Fri, 10 April 2020, 13:12:58
rip the green orders :(

What happened to the Green orders?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: wilarseny on Fri, 10 April 2020, 13:16:21
I got an email saying that boards with ano green top/middle did not pass QC because of bad color match, and offering several options (replacement of either the mismatched parts or the whole board with different colors or poly, refund, etc). Was disappointing, but senter's email is 100% professional and absolutely the right way to do this if the green pieces can't be remade to match more closely -- full props to him and the Foxlabs team in a difficult situation. I picked refund as the green + brass options were the whole reason I joined this gb. GL to everyone staying in!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MadsMe on Fri, 10 April 2020, 13:43:34
I got an email saying that boards with ano green top/middle did not pass QC because of bad color match, and offering several options (replacement of either the mismatched parts or the whole board with different colors or poly, refund, etc). Was disappointing, but senter's email is 100% professional and absolutely the right way to do this if the green pieces can't be remade to match more closely -- full props to him and the Foxlabs team in a difficult situation. I picked refund as the green + brass options were the whole reason I joined this gb. GL to everyone staying in!

I'm sorry to hear. Was looking forward to seeing the green ones!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Fri, 10 April 2020, 14:11:35
Weird. I thought the green ones came out great on the fab photos.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: wilarseny on Fri, 10 April 2020, 14:49:09
Weird. I thought the green ones came out great on the fab photos.

I thought so too. Maybe it is just some of the green ano boards that failed QC.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Fri, 10 April 2020, 16:17:42
could just be that the green looks good, but side by side the colours are too different.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sat, 11 April 2020, 06:06:22
Maybe they might sell b-stock with green top/mid kit.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Sat, 11 April 2020, 11:09:07
I got an email saying that boards with ano green top/middle did not pass QC because of bad color match, and offering several options (replacement of either the mismatched parts or the whole board with different colors or poly, refund, etc). Was disappointing, but senter's email is 100% professional and absolutely the right way to do this if the green pieces can't be remade to match more closely -- full props to him and the Foxlabs team in a difficult situation. I picked refund as the green + brass options were the whole reason I joined this gb. GL to everyone staying in!

hmmmm.  I got a green ano board and I didn't get an email like this.

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sat, 11 April 2020, 14:29:22
rip the green orders :(

The dark green anodizing looks great on individual parts.
There are color differences on some cases though.
If you didn't order dark green top+bottom, then you're not affected.
Only 14 people ordered dark green top+bottom and we have 10 good ones.
The other 4 cases with green top+bottom have relatively more apparent color differences that I don't want to sell.

Two buyers dropped their spots. Two buyers changed the colors. So right now anyone who bought dark green parts is good.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Sat, 11 April 2020, 15:56:28
Oh righto!  Thanks for the update, senter!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Sat, 11 April 2020, 16:39:25
any updates on QC and shipping to other countries?  I'm sure everyone is anxious to get their hands on the board!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kingjunguhn on Sat, 11 April 2020, 18:19:40
how many plate and pcb extras will be available now that there have been drop outs?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: AlbinoJellyfish on Sat, 11 April 2020, 18:22:05
Chances of extra PCB?


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sat, 11 April 2020, 18:26:48
rip the green orders :(

The dark green anodizing looks great on individual parts.
There are color differences on some cases though.
If you didn't order dark green top+bottom, then you're not affected.
Only 14 people ordered dark green top+bottom and we have 10 good ones.
The other 4 cases with green top+bottom have relatively more apparent color differences that I don't want to sell.

Two buyers dropped their spots. Two buyers changed the colors. So right now anyone who bought dark green parts is good.
Those who got extra plate+pcb will have extra foam/insulation too?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sat, 11 April 2020, 20:07:08
Hi! Im order 468. Looking for a trade to WK 6.25 key logo. PM for offers.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Dr0p on Sat, 11 April 2020, 20:15:44
Looking to buy an extra hotswap pcb. Pm me, thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Sun, 12 April 2020, 22:24:44
It's going to be a very exciting day when I get the shipping payment request, can't wait to have something new to build.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dzbro on Sun, 12 April 2020, 23:34:25
If anyone is willing to sell me theirs... I can't believe I missed this (still new). Preferably the hotswap, anodized grey with the metal kanji weight.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: AMONster on Mon, 13 April 2020, 06:41:51
WTB:
Key65 - White and Key logo
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: evilsharky on Mon, 13 April 2020, 08:57:43
Looking to buy a white case with key logo!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: bananafritters on Tue, 14 April 2020, 01:26:58
Anyone has gotten an invoice for shipping yet?

I did not  :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Tue, 14 April 2020, 03:16:17
Anyone has gotten an invoice for shipping yet?

I did not  :(

nah not yet bud, soon I hope.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: BigBabyJesus on Tue, 14 April 2020, 03:36:29
Very interested in the PC one. PM me if you want to let one go.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Tue, 14 April 2020, 12:39:33
any updates with the QC?  Almost ready for shipping?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kohsta on Tue, 14 April 2020, 14:36:56
Invoice has been paid, I AM READY  :D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Tue, 14 April 2020, 14:47:57
Woohoo, 7 months laterrrr


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Tue, 14 April 2020, 14:53:52
Invoice has been paid, I AM READY  :D

assuming you got your shipping invoice??
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Aiwanei on Tue, 14 April 2020, 15:19:38
Got my shipping invoice and paid, my body is reggie.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kohsta on Tue, 14 April 2020, 16:46:18
Invoice has been paid, I AM READY  :D

assuming you got your shipping invoice??

I did yes-- am in NA. I'd bet a lot of people elsewhere may have to wait a bit longer though :/
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Tue, 14 April 2020, 16:54:30
Invoice has been paid, I AM READY  :D

assuming you got your shipping invoice??

I did yes-- am in NA. I'd bet a lot of people elsewhere may have to wait a bit longer though :/

also in NA but still haven't received my invoice
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: merkz on Tue, 14 April 2020, 18:21:02
This will be my first completed GB! I'm so excited oh man!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Tue, 14 April 2020, 18:27:49
Still waiting for address confirmation and invoice.

I think they're sorting according to country?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Tue, 14 April 2020, 19:29:52
Likely by invoice batch. I know I was in the last batch so hopefully not lol.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Wobafet on Tue, 14 April 2020, 20:42:38
Likely by invoice batch. I know I was in the last batch so hopefully not lol.

Not sure if its by invoice batch, because I was in the first 20 order numbers and have not received an invoice for shipping
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kurple on Tue, 14 April 2020, 22:03:48
Don't worry,  I'm sure Senter will post back after he's done with all shipping invoicing.

He's done great so far about emailing for corrections or issues so I think its safe to assume that shipping invoices are being worked on.

I'm also excited for key65, can't wait to build it!

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: BuddhaBen on Wed, 15 April 2020, 01:36:45
Pretty sure hes messaging people whose boards have been QC'ed and boxed up. Remember there were like 400+ boards so it will come eventually.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: leexy on Wed, 15 April 2020, 02:46:35
e-teal pics pls
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Wed, 15 April 2020, 04:36:12
Guys, relax. Ano keebs were finished first, so people who ordered the anodised cases got invoiced for shipping first. E-coated boards will probably be next and then the polycarb versions.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Aiwanei on Wed, 15 April 2020, 07:56:26
Guys, relax. Ano keebs were finished first, so people who ordered the anodised cases got invoiced for shipping first. E-coated boards will probably be next and then the polycarb versions.

I got e-teal and e-white and got invoiced for shipping
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Wed, 15 April 2020, 11:58:27
senter messaged me and says invoicing is being done in a manner that will cause the most random speculation and comments on this message board.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 15 April 2020, 11:58:51
any updates with the QC?  Almost ready for shipping?

QC has been completed.
We are still assembling and packing individual kits though.
Please find some photos here (https://imgur.com/a/hjM2Y14)
You'll receive the invoice for shipping soon if you haven't.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 15 April 2020, 12:00:22
Guys, relax. Ano keebs were finished first, so people who ordered the anodised cases got invoiced for shipping first. E-coated boards will probably be next and then the polycarb versions.

Everything has been finished except for packing and shipping.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Wed, 15 April 2020, 12:01:15
thank goodness, this quarantine has me very bored. Thank you Senter for all the hard work!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Soraie on Wed, 15 April 2020, 12:13:34
Guys, relax. Ano keebs were finished first, so people who ordered the anodised cases got invoiced for shipping first. E-coated boards will probably be next and then the polycarb versions.

Everything has been finished except for packing and shipping.

Thank you for update as well as all the work that went into coordinating this amazing buy!! Very excited to receive invoice.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fakedSkill on Wed, 15 April 2020, 12:31:15
Please find some photos here (https://imgur.com/a/hjM2Y14)

WHOOP WHOOP those look amazing!  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: bananafritters on Wed, 15 April 2020, 12:32:40
Appreciate your update and your hardwork  :thumb:. Cant wait for my invoice and keeb!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: o3okevin on Wed, 15 April 2020, 13:01:20
Final stretch! Looking really good  :thumb: excited to get shipping soon
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jackie89 on Wed, 15 April 2020, 13:30:10
any updates with the QC?  Almost ready for shipping?

QC has been completed.
We are still assembling and packing individual kits though.
Please find some photos here (https://imgur.com/a/hjM2Y14)
You'll receive the invoice for shipping soon if you haven't.

Thanks senter, I sent an email about my invoice to be redirected to another paypal email. :) Let me know if you need more info
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DaneOne on Wed, 15 April 2020, 13:36:52
Guys, relax. Ano keebs were finished first, so people who ordered the anodised cases got invoiced for shipping first. E-coated boards will probably be next and then the polycarb versions.

Everything has been finished except for packing and shipping.

Does this mean all invoices have been sent? Becaus I havn't recieved one yet
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Wed, 15 April 2020, 14:40:33
Does this mean all invoices have been sent? Becaus I havn't recieved one yet

No, he said they are coming "soon if you haven't" received one. I also haven't recieved one. I'm guessing most people haven't. I'm confident we will get them Soontm.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: StanTowers on Wed, 15 April 2020, 14:45:30
Oh man, I only got on this forum just recently and I missed this gem :( This looks super dope. Is it too early to ask if there will ever be a second round of this magnificent looking kit?^^
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Wed, 15 April 2020, 14:52:26
Oh man, I only got on this forum just recently and I missed this gem :( This looks super dope. Is it too early to ask if there will ever be a second round of this magnificent looking kit?^^

Usually the answer is no but who knows. Your best luck is to grab one on the aftermarket.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Wed, 15 April 2020, 19:06:57
Please more pictures I'm dying over here  :mad:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Wed, 15 April 2020, 23:17:12
Oh man, I only got on this forum just recently and I missed this gem :( This looks super dope. Is it too early to ask if there will ever be a second round of this magnificent looking kit?^^

Senter said he never runs a round 2 unless he's made changes or imrpovements.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Thu, 16 April 2020, 01:14:42
Red is looking pretty maroon in that photo... Slightly worried about that.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Thu, 16 April 2020, 02:24:38
Red is looking pretty maroon in that photo... Slightly worried about that.
  If You End Up Not Liking Your Red One I'd Love To Buy It  :) :-*
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: StanTowers on Thu, 16 April 2020, 03:00:04
Senter said he never runs a round 2 unless he's made changes or imrpovements.

Oh I see. That is reasonable. I will be watching what is coming next. I am sure it will be as nice as this GB.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Thu, 16 April 2020, 08:09:47
Red is looking pretty maroon in that photo... Slightly worried about that.
  If You End Up Not Liking Your Red One I'd Love To Buy It  :) :-*

I'll PM you if that turns out to be the case.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Thu, 16 April 2020, 08:10:36
Red is looking pretty maroon in that photo... Slightly worried about that.
  If You End Up Not Liking Your Red One I'd Love To Buy It  :) :-*

I'll PM you if that turns out to be the case.
Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Thu, 16 April 2020, 16:45:30
ahh super excited
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Thu, 16 April 2020, 20:50:20
Every time I get an email I hope it's the shipping invoice but it never is :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Thu, 16 April 2020, 22:35:33
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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Thu, 16 April 2020, 23:50:15
Every time I get an email I hope it's the shipping invoice but it never is :(

I see I'm not alone.
You'll never walk alone
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Fri, 17 April 2020, 00:02:25
Every time I get an email I hope it's the shipping invoice but it never is :(

I see I'm not alone.
You'll never walk alone
Worry not my friends, I'm also there with you.


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Fri, 17 April 2020, 08:59:03
many of us are eagerly waiting to see that precious shipping invoice!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: bananafritters on Fri, 17 April 2020, 13:05:40
many of us are eagerly waiting to see that precious shipping invoice!

Me too...  :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Fri, 17 April 2020, 13:38:30
take my shipping moneyyyyyyyyyy plz
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Fri, 17 April 2020, 16:55:35
Waiting too

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Fri, 17 April 2020, 18:21:53
I saw someone say that the PC boards will be the last invoiced for shipping. Any truth to this?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Fri, 17 April 2020, 20:41:30
I saw someone say that the PC boards will be the last invoiced for shipping. Any truth to this?
Can't say for sure, but I'd say probably not. Kinda feels like they're invoicing as they finish packing orders. You could be invoiced today, tomorrow or whenever they finish all the packing.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: clankgy1 on Fri, 17 April 2020, 22:18:38
Glad to year this is moving along.  No shipping invoice yet, but I'll be keeping an eye out.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Omnomnominous on Fri, 17 April 2020, 22:29:23
No shipping invoice yet either but super keen!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kasterborous on Sat, 18 April 2020, 01:55:16
Fingers crossed and waiting impatiently for shipping invoice :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sun, 19 April 2020, 00:56:36
Probably some of the orders were already shipped. I wonder why the keyboard is not yet included in the pcb list on qmk configurator.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vector88 on Mon, 20 April 2020, 17:11:28
Will there be some leftovers or is the only option to buy a slot from someone?

If so, still looking for slot PC/(any) Yellow, standard ANSI with 6.25 spacebar and windows key. Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Mon, 20 April 2020, 18:31:37
boards are making their way to people in China, there's been a few posts in zfrontier with build pics.

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21033

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/20949

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Mon, 20 April 2020, 18:33:02
boards are making their way to people in China, there's been a few posts in zfrontier with build pics.

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21033

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/20949

jesus that teal with metropolis looks so good  :eek: :eek: :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Tue, 21 April 2020, 08:23:15
Holy ****. Whoever planned this setup in advance is a genius. That teal bottom with the teal accents. Damn.

(https://i.imgur.com/d02r4Ij.png)

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Tue, 21 April 2020, 08:25:45
The red looks sooooo good. Can't wait till it arrives then I just have to wait till GMK Metaverse hits.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Mcnos on Tue, 21 April 2020, 08:26:32
Holy ****. Whoever planned this setup in advance is a genius. That teal bottom with the teal accents. Damn.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/d02r4Ij.png)


Thats a nice Key65
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: deathjester on Tue, 21 April 2020, 10:42:57
I'm still looking for the right set to go with mine.

Although the base set of GMK White Wolf looks like a great match to the anno grey.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Wed, 22 April 2020, 14:33:26
Going with GMK Vice Nights and CMYK mods on my black + teal one. Should look schweet.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 22 April 2020, 21:50:23
I wonder what is the status of sorting. I havent received shipping invoice yet.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Wed, 22 April 2020, 21:54:51
I wonder what is the status of sorting. I havent received shipping invoice yet.

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700+ orders to sort through, it'll take a bit of time. I'm hoping I'll get the shipping invoice next week sometime.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 22 April 2020, 21:59:14
I wonder what is the status of sorting. I havent received shipping invoice yet.

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700+ orders to sort through, it'll take a bit of time. I'm hoping I'll get the shipping invoice next week sometime.
Oh I thought under 500.

Prioritizing local shipping is best option to lessen the numbers. Maybe they did that. If I only figure it out, I addressed it to my chinese friend.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Treestaars on Thu, 23 April 2020, 00:53:27
Just to confirm, the shipping invoice email will be from the "runninghack" address?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Thu, 23 April 2020, 02:20:11
Just to confirm, the shipping invoice email will be from the "runninghack" address?
Presumably, yeah.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kabocha on Thu, 23 April 2020, 02:33:39
Were the ANSI plate files ever uploaded? Thinking of cutting a POM plate.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: deathjester on Thu, 23 April 2020, 05:26:56
Were the ANSI plate files ever uploaded? Thinking of cutting a POM plate.

I don't recall seeing them; I had an ISO one cut, so I'm hoping that it fits correctly! It's a shame that it's not anodized, since I couldn't do it to match.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Thu, 23 April 2020, 05:47:47
Were the ANSI plate files ever uploaded? Thinking of cutting a POM plate.

I don't recall seeing them; I had an ISO one cut, so I'm hoping that it fits correctly! It's a shame that it's not anodized, since I couldn't do it to match.

What kind of company do I look for that can cut a plate for me?  I would like to get an ISO plate as well but not sure where to start
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: donnybravo on Thu, 23 April 2020, 08:00:43
New to the MKB community and super bummed I'm just seeing this now.

Would love to buy a slot from someone if anyone's willing: PC, standard ANSI, Window Key, preferably logo-less. Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: happycamper87 on Thu, 23 April 2020, 08:25:30
First one is out on Youtube:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Thu, 23 April 2020, 12:48:03
I wonder what is the status of sorting. I havent received shipping invoice yet.

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700+ orders to sort through, it'll take a bit of time. I'm hoping I'll get the shipping invoice next week sometime.
Oh I thought under 500.


Prioritizing local shipping is best option to lessen the numbers. Maybe they did that. If I only figure it out, I addressed it to my chinese friend.

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it's around 520 orders to sort through
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Thu, 23 April 2020, 13:13:06
got my shipping invoice for a pc order.  came from paypal, not from runninghack email.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Thu, 23 April 2020, 13:20:58
got my shipping invoice for a pc order.  came from paypal, not from runninghack email.

same just paid mine qq
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Thu, 23 April 2020, 13:21:20
also got my shipping invoice from pp for a pc order
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Thu, 23 April 2020, 13:55:20
I just received my shipping invoice as well from the qq email. Does anyone know who the domestic carrier for the package will be for orders shipped to the CONT US? I have moved apartments since the group buy started and need it shipped to another address. I am hoping to have it go directly to my secure PO box. My apartment complex has had some issues in the past with packages going "missing".
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Thu, 23 April 2020, 14:23:01
seems like a batch went out!  I paid my shipping invoice as well.

Damn that white one on the youtube link looks phenomenal.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Thu, 23 April 2020, 14:24:47
seems like a batch went out!  I paid my shipping invoice as well.

Damn that white one on the youtube link looks phenomenal.

Youtube link?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Thu, 23 April 2020, 14:27:23
Youtube link?

First one is out on Youtube:

This one
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Thu, 23 April 2020, 14:33:31
Nice, according to senter, 100 orders shipping out tomorrow!


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Thu, 23 April 2020, 15:42:08
The sound is splendid! Love everything about this board so far. :D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: deathjester on Thu, 23 April 2020, 16:20:38
Were the ANSI plate files ever uploaded? Thinking of cutting a POM plate.

I don't recall seeing them; I had an ISO one cut, so I'm hoping that it fits correctly! It's a shame that it's not anodized, since I couldn't do it to match.

What kind of company do I look for that can cut a plate for me?  I would like to get an ISO plate as well but not sure where to start

Which country are you in?

I'm in the UK and I got mine from https://www.lasermaster.co.uk/
It came in just a few days and it was £41
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: pengle on Thu, 23 April 2020, 17:47:25
Just paid for my shipping :p, $90 though Dx
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Thu, 23 April 2020, 18:45:24
That's a good email to wake up to.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noricon on Thu, 23 April 2020, 22:10:39
Thought I was one of the first few that got in (to the point where I couldn't modify my order on google forms). My assumption is its based on color concerning shipping. :shrug:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jumpmineralwater on Thu, 23 April 2020, 23:20:07
Just received an automated email from Senter's script which confirmed the shipping address :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: clankgy1 on Thu, 23 April 2020, 23:21:10
Just got an address confirmation email, pp cant be far behind.  :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 23 April 2020, 23:31:30
Hi guys, I'm sending out emails for confirming shipping addresses. By default I will used the shipping address in the google form. However some people thought I would use the shipping address on PayPal. Also, people keep messaging me for changing the address due to covid-19. Please DO NOT reply my email if your address is correct.

Right now we're assembling the kits each by each, putting together everything in the boxes. It takes time. We've assembled more than 100 kits so far and can assemble at most 40 kits each day. So you get an idea how soon we can ship all the kits out.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Thu, 23 April 2020, 23:34:13
Hi guys, I'm sending out emails for confirming shipping addresses. By default I will used the shipping address in the google form. However some people thought I would use the shipping address on PayPal. Also, people keep messaging me for changing the address due to covid-19. Please DO NOT reply my email if your address is correct.

Right now we're assembling the kits each by each, putting together everything in the boxes. It takes time. We've assembled more than 100 kits so far and can assemble at most 40 kits each day. So you get an idea how soon we can ship all the kits out.
Thanks for the update

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vincevelorn on Thu, 23 April 2020, 23:35:14
Thanks senter! I got my e-mail and can' wait to get the kit. Gonna be so good!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Thu, 23 April 2020, 23:35:49
For the US People, what shipping service will you be using?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 23 April 2020, 23:37:31
Hi guys, I'm sending out emails for confirming shipping addresses. By default I will used the shipping address in the google form. However some people thought I would use the shipping address on PayPal. Also, people keep messaging me for changing the address due to covid-19. Please DO NOT reply my email if your address is correct.

Right now we're assembling the kits each by each, putting together everything in the boxes. It takes time. We've assembled more than 100 kits so far and can assemble at most 40 kits each day. So you get an idea how soon we can ship all the kits out.

Oh I forgot to mention. The reason I was holding the international orders was that the shipping cost changes everyday recently. It's crazy. Tomorrow we'll ship out what we have right now and send out invoices batch by batch.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 23 April 2020, 23:37:58
For the US People, what shipping service will you be using?

DHL
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Fri, 24 April 2020, 07:14:16
For the US People, what shipping service will you be using?

DHL
DHL Express to Philippines also?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Fri, 24 April 2020, 08:57:21
Is pcb compatible with tx65? Or is it compatible with other center usb pcb? becuase i want to rgb led

I don't think so.
WS2812 LED strips are not that difficult to add.
Sorry to revive this old comment, but would the WS2812 strips be supported in qmk? Where on the PCB would I add them?
Would WS2812b or WS2813 work?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Fri, 24 April 2020, 20:05:35
got my shipping confirmation! woop woop
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Fri, 24 April 2020, 20:13:55
got my shipping confirmation! woop woop
Me too. Waiting for invoice.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kenny20x2 on Fri, 24 April 2020, 23:03:52
Do I just reply to the shipping confirmation email if the address on it is wrong?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Fri, 24 April 2020, 23:05:09
Do I just reply to the shipping confirmation email if the address on it is wrong?
That's what I did, since the email said don't reply if the address is correct.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sat, 25 April 2020, 02:28:45
Were the ANSI plate files ever uploaded? Thinking of cutting a POM plate.

Also waiting for file of ansi plate for WK.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Sat, 25 April 2020, 08:35:54
Got my address confirmation email.  So excited!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: nicx on Sat, 25 April 2020, 12:00:34
Really wanna see how those engraved PC tops turned out.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Sat, 25 April 2020, 18:51:54
Anybody from USA get a shipping invoice? Is it still the estimated $40? Wondering if prices increased at all with DHL due to covid. I saw they have a surcharge on time definite shipments so I think normal shipments are the same just delayed. Curious tho.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Sat, 25 April 2020, 19:04:00
Anybody from USA get a shipping invoice? Is it still the estimated $40? Wondering if prices increased at all with DHL due to covid. I saw they have a surcharge on time definite shipments so I think normal shipments are the same just delayed. Curious tho.

Oregonian here - my invoice was $62!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Sat, 25 April 2020, 19:54:35
Anybody from USA get a shipping invoice? Is it still the estimated $40? Wondering if prices increased at all with DHL due to covid. I saw they have a surcharge on time definite shipments so I think normal shipments are the same just delayed. Curious tho.

Oregonian here - my invoice was $62!

also oregonian. sames. Did anyone in this batch get a tracking #?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Sat, 25 April 2020, 20:32:10
Anybody from USA get a shipping invoice? Is it still the estimated $40? Wondering if prices increased at all with DHL due to covid. I saw they have a surcharge on time definite shipments so I think normal shipments are the same just delayed. Curious tho.

Oregonian here - my invoice was $62!

also oregonian. sames. Did anyone in this batch get a tracking #?

Ouch! That stings a little. Thanks for the heads up tho
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Sat, 25 April 2020, 21:42:13
also oregonian. sames. Did anyone in this batch get a tracking #?

I was hoping paypal would show it, but it doesn't appear there is one.  I'm not at all worried, though.  This is my third board from senter and foxlabs, they always arrive pretty quickly from invoice!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sat, 25 April 2020, 21:48:12
also oregonian. sames. Did anyone in this batch get a tracking #?

I was hoping paypal would show it, but it doesn't appear there is one.  I'm not at all worried, though.  This is my third board from senter and foxlabs, they always arrive pretty quickly from invoice!
Maybe waiting for pickup by the courier.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Sat, 25 April 2020, 23:25:53
Shipping invoice to Australia was $62 as well.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sun, 26 April 2020, 00:16:47
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ferongr on Sun, 26 April 2020, 01:10:16
I'm looking to sell #349 at cost. At this point in time, a custom keeb is a luxury I cannot afford  :( Sold.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: happycamper87 on Sun, 26 April 2020, 02:11:39
Shipping costs are indeed increased due to covid. My shipping invoice came with a note that says that specifically lol. 55usd to the Philippines if anyone's curious.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fattysco on Sun, 26 April 2020, 02:35:48
I'm looking to sell #349 at cost. At this point in time, a custom keeb is a luxury I cannot afford  :(
where can i get more information?


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Sun, 26 April 2020, 02:55:03
I'm looking to sell #349 at cost. At this point in time, a custom keeb is a luxury I cannot afford  :(
where can i get more information?


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Sun, 26 April 2020, 09:52:59
also oregonian. sames. Did anyone in this batch get a tracking #?

I was hoping paypal would show it, but it doesn't appear there is one.  I'm not at all worried, though.  This is my third board from senter and foxlabs, they always arrive pretty quickly from invoice!
Maybe waiting for pickup by the courier.

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I received the invoice for shipping costs as well, but I do not believe that was a formal shipping confirmation. From my understanding that will be coming in another email soon. Could be wrong though. 
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Sun, 26 April 2020, 11:46:39
Got my shipping invoice!!!  Super excited!!!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Little4Real on Sun, 26 April 2020, 12:25:23
Does anyone want to trade PCBs? I have a hotswap PCB I'm looking to trade for a solderable PCB.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Draxion on Sun, 26 April 2020, 16:40:15
Damn 71 ****ing USD to Canada
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Sun, 26 April 2020, 17:18:45
Damn 71 ****ing USD to Canada
Holy Smokes, you got me terrified of what my shipping invoice to New York City is going to be  :'(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: nu_types on Mon, 27 April 2020, 00:03:52
Damn 71 ****ing USD to Canada
Holy Smokes, you got me terrified of what my shipping invoice to New York City is going to be  :'(

Probably much cheaper. Shipping to Canada tends to be ridiculous.

Edit: looks like other US peeps got their invoices, it's cheaper but not by much.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Mon, 27 April 2020, 01:46:37
121 AUD to Melbourne.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jackie89 on Mon, 27 April 2020, 01:51:11
Damn 71 ****ing USD to Canada

Mmm strange, I paid $61USD to ship to Vancouver, BC
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Mon, 27 April 2020, 08:05:31
Hopefully getting my invoice soon! I was in one of the last batches afaik, so it may be some time. I assume once the packages are fully sent tracking will be added.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 27 April 2020, 08:12:30
Any shipping invoices to the EU yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Little4Real on Mon, 27 April 2020, 08:26:32
Paid $65 to USA, so it sucks for all of us
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Mon, 27 April 2020, 08:28:17
Did senter say how we will be getting our DHL tracking numbers?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Mon, 27 April 2020, 08:40:13
Any shipping invoices to the EU yet?

yes, got one to sweden few days ago
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Omnomnominous on Mon, 27 April 2020, 09:19:18
121 AUD to Melbourne.

Hello fellow Aussie - 74USD/122AUD to NSW.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Mon, 27 April 2020, 09:44:49
Hopefully getting my invoice soon! I was in one of the last batches afaik, so it may be some time. I assume once the packages are fully sent tracking will be added.
Not necessarily, I'm order 612 and still got a shipping invoice a few days ago.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Mon, 27 April 2020, 10:08:56
Yes would lov ea DHL tracking number so i dont leave this thing out on the front step all day....
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Mon, 27 April 2020, 18:11:28
Yes would lov ea DHL tracking number so i dont leave this thing out on the front step all day....
Don't worry I'll take care of it for you  :-*
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 27 April 2020, 18:42:35
Paid $65 to USA, so it sucks for all of us

Recent shipping cost has been insane.
DHl capacity issue hopefully addressed soon.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: beresford on Mon, 27 April 2020, 18:46:39
121 AUD to Melbourne.

Hello fellow Aussie - 74USD/122AUD to NSW.

Holly... That is almost 1/3 of the cost of the board... I am in Melbourne too and I haven't received the shipping invoice yet, only the address confirmation.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: oldcat on Mon, 27 April 2020, 18:49:29
121 AUD to Melbourne.

Hello fellow Aussie - 74USD/122AUD to NSW.

Holly... That is almost 1/3 of the cost of the board... I am in Melbourne too and I haven't received the shipping invoice yet, only the address confirmation.

In regular times it’s around 40, I heard price has almost doubled because there aren’t enough flights
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Mon, 27 April 2020, 19:37:03
121 AUD to Melbourne.

Hello fellow Aussie - 74USD/122AUD to NSW.
Man you got hit, I only paid $62 to NSW.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Mon, 27 April 2020, 19:44:45
Still waiting for invoice. Got my address confirmation 4 days ago.


121 AUD to Melbourne.

Hello fellow Aussie - 74USD/122AUD to NSW.
Man you got hit, I only paid $62 to NSW.

Senter said due to daily changes of rates  :-\
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Mon, 27 April 2020, 19:49:40
yup, sucks that shipping got jacked up, but it's really no fault of senter.  Just hoping we get a tracking number soon for those who paid the shipping invoice!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Mon, 27 April 2020, 20:13:55
Wow yea these shipping prices are gonna hurt, especially for something that is just unfortunate timing. Agreed that its just the nature of where we are right now. That said I volunteer to be shipping invoiced last and maybe next next month lol.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Mon, 27 April 2020, 22:57:50
Yes would lov ea DHL tracking number so i dont leave this thing out on the front step all day....

Has anyone gotten a tracking number yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Tue, 28 April 2020, 00:28:46
Haven't got the invoice yet but already got the address confirmation. Hopefully soon :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Wobafet on Tue, 28 April 2020, 02:07:23
Yes would lov ea DHL tracking number so i dont leave this thing out on the front step all day....

Has anyone gotten a tracking number yet?

Nope I was a day 1 shipping invoice and I haven't received tracking, but I'm sure we'll be receiving it this week. Just gotta be patient!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Tue, 28 April 2020, 09:55:35
FYI i haven't received my invoice yet either. But i am certain it will be there. :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Tue, 28 April 2020, 14:54:55
I’m sure it’s a lot of effort to update every single order with tracking. Once you pay the invoice, give it two weeks and if nothing arrives then message senter. Also if you make an account with DHL, I’m pretty sure it will detect when you are getting a shipment to your address. It will then notify you about it. Idk if anyone else has experienced this as well?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Tue, 28 April 2020, 15:55:46
I’m sure it’s a lot of effort to update every single order with tracking. Once you pay the invoice, give it two weeks and if nothing arrives then message senter. Also if you make an account with DHL, I’m pretty sure it will detect when you are getting a shipment to your address. It will then notify you about it. Idk if anyone else has experienced this as well?

tracking # for $400 package is pretty standard
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: oldcat on Tue, 28 April 2020, 16:46:14
I’m sure it’s a lot of effort to update every single order with tracking. Once you pay the invoice, give it two weeks and if nothing arrives then message senter. Also if you make an account with DHL, I’m pretty sure it will detect when you are getting a shipment to your address. It will then notify you about it. Idk if anyone else has experienced this as well?

My experience is that DHL will send you a SMS when the package is moving.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 29 April 2020, 17:47:57
Bit worried, none of my packages are making it to my house right now. No update on something that departed on March 15th from the US and no update on something that arrived on April 17th in Germany.

Hope that by the time my kit ships those issues are resolved.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: oldcat on Wed, 29 April 2020, 19:38:59
Bit worried, none of my packages are making it to my house right now. No update on something that departed on March 15th from the US and no update on something that arrived on April 17th in Germany.

Hope that by the time my kit ships those issues are resolved.

My Amazon toothpaste order is taking 2 weeks to fulfill. It's insane at the moment.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: bananafritters on Thu, 30 April 2020, 01:04:25
I am still waiting for my shipping invoice. Is anyone still in the same position as me?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Thu, 30 April 2020, 01:32:52
I am still waiting for my shipping invoice. Is anyone still in the same position as me?

I just got mine today and my invoice # was in the 100's. I assume there are quite a few to go. For the record, it was $70 to the US.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: deathjester on Thu, 30 April 2020, 04:09:15
I am still waiting for my shipping invoice. Is anyone still in the same position as me?

Yep, I’m still in the same boat as you. :)

Trying to be patient and failing miserably!!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Thu, 30 April 2020, 04:32:54
I am still waiting for my shipping invoice. Is anyone still in the same position as me?

Yep, I’m still in the same boat as you. :)

Trying to be patient and failing miserably!!

Wait until you get your tracking :D
That'll be horrible! :D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: deathjester on Thu, 30 April 2020, 05:16:49
I am still waiting for my shipping invoice. Is anyone still in the same position as me?

Yep, I’m still in the same boat as you. :)

Trying to be patient and failing miserably!!

Wait until you get your tracking :D
That'll be horrible! :D

I just had some Kailh mouse switches delivered from AliExpress and they took 10 days door to door, so I’m hopeful! 🤣
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Thu, 30 April 2020, 06:10:46
I am still waiting for my shipping invoice. Is anyone still in the same position as me?
Yup. I'm really curious how much will shipping to Poland cost.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: bananafritters on Thu, 30 April 2020, 08:30:53
I am at Switzerland, I am wondering too.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: orim23 on Thu, 30 April 2020, 08:32:53
I am at Switzerland, I am wondering too.
I paid 116USD for two kits to CH...
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Thu, 30 April 2020, 09:00:45
I just paided $61 for shipping to NYC

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Thu, 30 April 2020, 10:40:28
Still waiting for mine, hopefully the price isn't too bad
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Tenturo on Thu, 30 April 2020, 11:56:41
I got mine today for Salt Lake City and shipping was $68.90.. hopefully it will be here soon!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Thu, 30 April 2020, 12:45:53
anyone get tracking numbers yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Thu, 30 April 2020, 12:53:30
anyone get tracking numbers yet?

I haven't, others might have though. Not sure. I was invoiced sometime last week.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Thu, 30 April 2020, 12:57:03
anyone get tracking numbers yet?

I haven't, others might have though. Not sure. I was invoiced sometime last week.

yea, i paid for my invoice on Sunday, but i believe some other people were invoiced before that, so hoping they got tracking numbers.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ele7087 on Thu, 30 April 2020, 12:59:10
anyone get tracking numbers yet?

I haven't, others might have though. Not sure. I was invoiced sometime last week.

yea, i paid for my invoice on Sunday, but i believe some other people were invoiced before that, so hoping they got tracking numbers.
Paid mine last week, still haven’t gotten a tracking number >.< the wait is killing me
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Wongstongs on Thu, 30 April 2020, 13:22:27
Oh boy! Just got tracking, can't wait to build this thing  :D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: cattharsis on Thu, 30 April 2020, 13:33:32
anyone get tracking numbers yet?

I haven't, others might have though. Not sure. I was invoiced sometime last week.

yea, i paid for my invoice on Sunday, but i believe some other people were invoiced before that, so hoping they got tracking numbers.
Paid mine last week, still haven’t gotten a tracking number >.< the wait is killing me

Paid mine last Friday. Just (2mins ago) got my tracking number.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Thu, 30 April 2020, 13:34:03
Just filled up tracking numbers for shipped orders. We don't get the tracking numbers immediately after we ship the packages out. We're using a Hongkong DHL proxy. The packages are shipped to their Hongkong warehouse first. The DHL proxy will give us the tracking numbers only after they received and processed the packages. They are doing it much slower than normal. 
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Sbaak on Thu, 30 April 2020, 13:39:19
Just filled up tracking numbers for shipped orders. We don't get the tracking numbers immediately after we ship the packages out. We're using a Hongkong DHL proxy. The packages are shipped to their Hongkong warehouse first. The DHL proxy will give us the tracking numbers only after they received and processed the packages. They are doing it much slower than normal.

got it, tyvm
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Thu, 30 April 2020, 13:39:47
Still have not received my invoice D: (Chicago)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Thu, 30 April 2020, 13:40:19
Still have not received my invoice D: (Chicago)

Same here - i only got my address confirmation email.  In Philly
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: CodeMayhem on Thu, 30 April 2020, 13:47:25
Check your spam folder just incase. I just noticed my invoice in there. It was sent and due 4 days ago. Gonna have to pm senter about it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Thu, 30 April 2020, 13:49:33
Check your spam folder just incase. I just noticed my invoice in there. It was sent and due 4 days ago. Gonna have to pm senter about it.

Thanks, yeah i have been vigilant, still no dice :(

But, i was pretty far down in the order numbers, so maybe just last on the list.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Thu, 30 April 2020, 13:50:54
Check your spam folder just incase. I just noticed my invoice in there. It was sent and due 4 days ago. Gonna have to pm senter about it.

Thanks, yeah i have been vigilant, still no dice :(

But, i was pretty far down in the order numbers, so maybe just last on the list.

Same here. Nothing coming through just yet, but hopefully soon. I was pretty far down on it as well.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Thu, 30 April 2020, 14:19:44
thanks senter. just got my traccking number.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Thu, 30 April 2020, 14:39:11
Even in spam I still see nothing, order was middle of the pack, remaining hopeful though!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: clankgy1 on Thu, 30 April 2020, 15:56:19
thanks senter. just got my traccking number.

How did you receive it?  Separate email?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Wongstongs on Thu, 30 April 2020, 17:41:33
thanks senter. just got my traccking number.

How did you receive it?  Separate email?

Comes as an email from paypal
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Thu, 30 April 2020, 17:47:10
Got an email with a tracking number today, checked the shipping status and it's already at my local depot. Keep an eye out people, it could arrive before you get your shipping notification.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Thu, 30 April 2020, 17:55:31
Got an email with a tracking number today, checked the shipping status and it's already at my local depot. Keep an eye out people, it could arrive before you get your shipping notification.

lucky you! mine is still in Hong Kong
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Thu, 30 April 2020, 18:14:15
Still waiting for my shipping invoice

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Aiwanei on Thu, 30 April 2020, 18:25:20
Paid shipping invoice on the 14th, hopefully I will get tracking soon, but I will be patient, since everything with shipping is so difficult in the world right now.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Thu, 30 April 2020, 19:22:31
First hundred orders and still no shipping invoice
feelsbadman
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: chrainer on Thu, 30 April 2020, 19:34:07
First hundred orders and still no shipping invoice
feelsbadman
"... sitting, waiting wishing, ..." I pretty much feel the same way, as you do - nevertheless: senter has never made the impression of being lazy - we'll get our kits, when they're ready to be shipped
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: clankgy1 on Thu, 30 April 2020, 20:00:20
thanks senter. just got my traccking number.

How did you receive it?  Separate email?

Comes as an email from paypal

Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: karmbit klacks on Thu, 30 April 2020, 21:37:46
I haven't gotten my invoice yet either.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Soraie on Thu, 30 April 2020, 22:06:24
I haven't gotten my invoice yet either.

Same boat!! Anxiously waiting for the shipping invoice.....
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dwarflemur on Fri, 01 May 2020, 11:29:26
Haven’t checked this thread in a while, is there anything worth reading through that I missed or is it just 20 pages of complaining about shipping cost and “invoice/tracking number when???” posts?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Fri, 01 May 2020, 13:19:16
Haven’t checked this thread in a while, is there anything worth reading through that I missed or is it just 20 pages of complaining about shipping cost and “invoice/tracking number when???” posts?

Depends on how long ago you looked. There are some pics of boards and what not.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Fri, 01 May 2020, 13:44:53
Speaking of, found a few more posts on zfrontier with a few different combinations. PC is lookin goooood.

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21317
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21476
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21377
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21277
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21278

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Fri, 01 May 2020, 14:02:24
Speaking of, found a few more posts on zfrontier with a few different combinations. PC is lookin goooood.


Second to last link is what I went for, but all PC. Can't wait to get it. I still want to see how engraved PC looks. I went for no blocker and I'm pretty content with that overall.
Got my invoice so let's hope they arrive fast!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Fri, 01 May 2020, 18:48:48
Hmm just noticed this in one of the posts. Can somebody translate? Google translate isn't doing it well so I can't tell if they are saying the pc plates are cut this bad or if its the protective film.

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190

(https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20200501/FhpmZasU-g7Fks20ADGRUkt4lleD?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Mechalomania on Fri, 01 May 2020, 19:14:13
Hmm just noticed this in one of the posts. Can somebody translate? Google translate isn't doing it well so I can't tell if they are saying the pc plates are cut this bad or if its the protective film.

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190

Show Image
(https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20200501/FhpmZasU-g7Fks20ADGRUkt4lleD?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)


Yikes.  I really hope that's not normal.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: hcoopos on Fri, 01 May 2020, 23:13:45
Curious if those who paid extra $37.58 for the keyboard got invoiced. I live in Vancouver and got a $68.90 invoice, which doesn't look like it is discounted as I would expect.
Replied to the invoice a few hours ago but no response yet :/
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: stopitsme on Sat, 02 May 2020, 01:50:23
Hmm just noticed this in one of the posts. Can somebody translate? Google translate isn't doing it well so I can't tell if they are saying the pc plates are cut this bad or if its the protective film.

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190

Show Image
(https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20200501/FhpmZasU-g7Fks20ADGRUkt4lleD?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)


he is saying the stubbles is still there after removing the protective film
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MK47 on Sat, 02 May 2020, 02:57:42
Got the shipping invoice yesterday $68.90 (UK).
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Sat, 02 May 2020, 12:37:53
Well that's disappointment about the PC plate, but it doesn't look like anything I can't fix with a little sandpaper.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 02 May 2020, 14:54:34
It doesn't look like it's actually cut wrong, just some leftovers. Though I'll be using the alu plate most likely.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Sat, 02 May 2020, 15:16:28
It doesn't look like it's actually cut wrong, just some leftovers. Though I'll be using the alu plate most likely.

Yeah, I opted for the PC and alu plate. Toyed around with the idea of getting the titanium one as well, but in reality I'm not sure how different it would be from a regular alu one. Titanium has a HRB hardness of 45 where alu is 40. Seems like it would be pretty similar to me. Although I've never typed on a PC plate. I am exited to try that out.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Sat, 02 May 2020, 16:23:19
Hmm just noticed this in one of the posts. Can somebody translate? Google translate isn't doing it well so I can't tell if they are saying the pc plates are cut this bad or if its the protective film.

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190

Show Image
(https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20200501/FhpmZasU-g7Fks20ADGRUkt4lleD?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)


He also mentioned regretting getting the kanji blocker for the top due to how rough the cut appears to be. I hope it doesn't turn out that way for everyone's tops.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MadsMe on Sat, 02 May 2020, 17:34:11
Speaking of, found a few more posts on zfrontier with a few different combinations. PC is lookin goooood.

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21317
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21476
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21377
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21277
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21278

PC looking hella sleek. But I kinda regret getting the WKL top though. The regular one looks so clean!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: H3NT4I on Sat, 02 May 2020, 18:59:12
Hmm just noticed this in one of the posts. Can somebody translate? Google translate isn't doing it well so I can't tell if they are saying the pc plates are cut this bad or if its the protective film.

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190

Show Image
(https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20200501/FhpmZasU-g7Fks20ADGRUkt4lleD?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)


He also mentioned regretting getting the kanji blocker for the top due to how rough the cut appears to be. I hope it doesn't turn out that way for everyone's tops.

Y I K E S that is disappointing. I also got e-white with kanji fingers crossed for everyone.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Sat, 02 May 2020, 19:24:30
Speaking of, found a few more posts on zfrontier with a few different combinations. PC is lookin goooood.

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21317
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21476
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21377
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21277
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21278

PC looking hella sleek. But I kinda regret getting the WKL top though. The regular one looks so clean!

I feel you. WKL looking like a bad choice  :-[ hoping PC WKL looks decent
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kenny20x2 on Sat, 02 May 2020, 20:21:03
Looking to sell my ewhite key 65. Order 567. Haven't yet received my shipping invoice so maybe I can change it. Really need money right now. Discord is ken92#4771
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sat, 02 May 2020, 20:24:20
Looking to sell my ewhite key 65. Order 567. Haven't yet received my shipping invoice so maybe I can change it. Really need money right now. Discord is kem92#4771

PM sent. This is for a friend.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Sat, 02 May 2020, 20:48:32
Man the POM Red & Yellow version Looks so nice. I'm so hoping there will be extras or b stocks available for this
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 02 May 2020, 21:02:26
Speaking of, found a few more posts on zfrontier with a few different combinations. PC is lookin goooood.

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21317
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21476
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21377
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21277
https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21278



That guy with the PC build has my exact setup minus the plate. Excited!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Sun, 03 May 2020, 04:54:39
Hmm just noticed this in one of the posts. Can somebody translate? Google translate isn't doing it well so I can't tell if they are saying the pc plates are cut this bad or if its the protective film.

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190

Show Image
(https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20200501/FhpmZasU-g7Fks20ADGRUkt4lleD?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)


He also mentioned regretting getting the kanji blocker for the top due to how rough the cut appears to be. I hope it doesn't turn out that way for everyone's tops.

Y I K E S that is disappointing. I also got e-white with kanji fingers crossed for everyone.

I'm thinking of getting some enamel paint and painting it in just in case it's as bad as it looks. Should be able to cover it up and add some value to the board too.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sun, 03 May 2020, 04:59:38
Hmm just noticed this in one of the posts. Can somebody translate? Google translate isn't doing it well so I can't tell if they are saying the pc plates are cut this bad or if its the protective film.

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190

Show Image
(https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20200501/FhpmZasU-g7Fks20ADGRUkt4lleD?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)


He also mentioned regretting getting the kanji blocker for the top due to how rough the cut appears to be. I hope it doesn't turn out that way for everyone's tops.

Y I K E S that is disappointing. I also got e-white with kanji fingers crossed for everyone.

I'm thinking of getting some enamel paint and painting it in just in case it's as bad as it looks. Should be able to cover it up and add some value to the board too.
Looks like it is not deep enough to infilled.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Sun, 03 May 2020, 05:14:27
Hmm just noticed this in one of the posts. Can somebody translate? Google translate isn't doing it well so I can't tell if they are saying the pc plates are cut this bad or if its the protective film.

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190

Show Image
(https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20200501/FhpmZasU-g7Fks20ADGRUkt4lleD?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)


He also mentioned regretting getting the kanji blocker for the top due to how rough the cut appears to be. I hope it doesn't turn out that way for everyone's tops.

Y I K E S that is disappointing. I also got e-white with kanji fingers crossed for everyone.

I'm thinking of getting some enamel paint and painting it in just in case it's as bad as it looks. Should be able to cover it up and add some value to the board too.
Looks like it is not deep enough to infilled.

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I'll try my luck I guess. Fingers crossed that it's just an isolated case.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: H3NT4I on Sun, 03 May 2020, 09:34:38
Hmm just noticed this in one of the posts. Can somebody translate? Google translate isn't doing it well so I can't tell if they are saying the pc plates are cut this bad or if its the protective film.

https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/21190

Show Image
(https://img.zfrontier.com/post/20200501/FhpmZasU-g7Fks20ADGRUkt4lleD?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)


He also mentioned regretting getting the kanji blocker for the top due to how rough the cut appears to be. I hope it doesn't turn out that way for everyone's tops.

Y I K E S that is disappointing. I also got e-white with kanji fingers crossed for everyone.

I'm thinking of getting some enamel paint and painting it in just in case it's as bad as it looks. Should be able to cover it up and add some value to the board too.
Looks like it is not deep enough to infilled.

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I'll try my luck I guess. Fingers crossed that it's just an isolated case.

I'll be doing the same thing, carefully done even with issues like that can make it an improvement. But fingers others will be better.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: johnny2304 on Sun, 03 May 2020, 09:52:32
Still have not received my invoice D: (Chicago)

Same here - i only got my address confirmation email.  In Philly
Same here, same in Philly, not received my invoice, only got my confirmation address email :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Sun, 03 May 2020, 10:07:35
any idea when the key65 will be on QMK, or possibly VIA?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Sun, 03 May 2020, 11:23:13
Just got my tracking number this morning.
For anyone interested I got the address confirmation on 4/23, and the shipping invoice on 4/26.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Sun, 03 May 2020, 11:28:03
any idea when the key65 will be on QMK, or possibly VIA?
I thought it already was on qmk, but just checked and it's not. That's a bit of a concern, hopefully it's up soon.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Sun, 03 May 2020, 14:06:10
Just got my tracking number this morning.
For anyone interested I got the address confirmation on 4/23, and the shipping invoice on 4/26.

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This is really comforting to know, actually!  I got my invoice on the 23rd but no tracking info yet.  I'll stay patient!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Sun, 03 May 2020, 15:21:06
shipping confirmation on apr 24th and got my shipping invoice today
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Sun, 03 May 2020, 15:33:32
I'm in the last batch and got my shipping invoice today. $71 USD to Germany. I hope this package arrives, unlike the others I've been ordering recently.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: deathjester on Sun, 03 May 2020, 16:09:33
Address confirmation arrived on the 24th, still no invoice tho.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: o3okevin on Sun, 03 May 2020, 16:10:39
Shipping invoice hype! Thanks Senter for all you hard work even with all the restrictions!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: toanta on Sun, 03 May 2020, 17:05:53
Address confirmation arrived on the 24th, still no invoice tho.

Same here. Hope to get it soon.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Sun, 03 May 2020, 19:51:34
Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jackie89 on Sun, 03 May 2020, 22:00:03
Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.

Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Sun, 03 May 2020, 23:12:51
Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.

Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?
How long has it been in that state? I'm sure the logistics of getting packages out of Hong Kong, even DHL, are pretty challenging. My 2 cents is that anything less than a three days is probably the current normal.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jackie89 on Mon, 04 May 2020, 00:12:27
Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.

Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?
How long has it been in that state? I'm sure the logistics of getting packages out of Hong Kong, even DHL, are pretty challenging. My 2 cents is that anything less than a three days is probably the current normal.

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

Since April 28th now. Hopefully some movement soon :/
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: PotatoTM on Mon, 04 May 2020, 03:19:13
$68.90 USD to Ontario Canada :-X
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: The Equals D on Mon, 04 May 2020, 03:41:52
Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.

Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?
How long has it been in that state? I'm sure the logistics of getting packages out of Hong Kong, even DHL, are pretty challenging. My 2 cents is that anything less than a three days is probably the current normal.

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

Since April 28th now. Hopefully some movement soon :/


I recently got a package through hong kong dhl and it was the same as yours for about a week. Things are just very slow right now with China and Hong Kong Dhl and they are over loaded and it's taking time to move the packages from China to Hong Kong for them to ship out and for the tracking to update.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: leexy on Mon, 04 May 2020, 04:38:03
Haven’t checked this thread in a while, is there anything worth reading through that I missed or is it just 20 pages of complaining about shipping cost and “invoice/tracking number when???” posts?

pretty much
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Mon, 04 May 2020, 07:14:52
I'm in the last batch and got my shipping invoice today. $71 USD to Germany. I hope this package arrives, unlike the others I've been ordering recently.

I'm in Sweden and my package arrived today.  Left Hong Kong on May 1st, arrived in Germany yesterday, and delivered to me today.  So I wouldn't worry about it :]
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Mon, 04 May 2020, 08:15:29
I'm in the last batch and got my shipping invoice today. $71 USD to Germany. I hope this package arrives, unlike the others I've been ordering recently.

I'm in Sweden and my package arrived today.  Left Hong Kong on May 1st, arrived in Germany yesterday, and delivered to me today.  So I wouldn't worry about it :]
Pic's or it didn't happen

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Mon, 04 May 2020, 10:07:51
Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.

Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?

yes mines been sitting in HK since the 28th
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Aiwanei on Mon, 04 May 2020, 10:08:49
Mine is out for delivery today  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Mon, 04 May 2020, 10:09:42
Mine is out for delivery today  :eek:
Please post pics!

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jackie89 on Mon, 04 May 2020, 10:26:39
Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.

Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?
How long has it been in that state? I'm sure the logistics of getting packages out of Hong Kong, even DHL, are pretty challenging. My 2 cents is that anything less than a three days is probably the current normal.

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

Since April 28th now. Hopefully some movement soon :/


I recently got a package through hong kong dhl and it was the same as yours for about a week. Things are just very slow right now with China and Hong Kong Dhl and they are over loaded and it's taking time to move the packages from China to Hong Kong for them to ship out and for the tracking to update.

Thanks for the reply. Ya totally that makes sense, I just wanted to make sure it was normal. Especially since we only get tracking numbers after  is been processed. Oh well, I'm sure it'll be here soon. Can't wait.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Mon, 04 May 2020, 12:23:31
Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.

Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?

yes mines been sitting in HK since the 28th
Huh, I just got notification from DHL that mine was picked up, had previously been in 'shipment information received' since the second.  Hopefully yours also gets updated.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Mon, 04 May 2020, 12:45:53
I was a fool and didn't order an extra plate.
Does anyone have a brass or aluminum plate they are willing to sell me?
Title: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Mon, 04 May 2020, 12:58:55
My key65 was just delivered!
Some initial opening pictures

(https://i.imgur.com/ejxgY5k_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)



 https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9  (https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9)

(https://i.imgur.com/TSwbaxm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OmgqxaR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kGckrVL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JowISMJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0pfuGEy.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/J3SizEY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qlfMcqQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BMOVofi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tNjczc1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/mlLLjqO.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Solotov on Mon, 04 May 2020, 13:14:41
My key65 was just delivered!
Some initial opening pictures


 https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9  (https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/TSwbaxm.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/OmgqxaR.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/kGckrVL.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/JowISMJ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/0pfuGEy.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/J3SizEY.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/qlfMcqQ.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/BMOVofi.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/tNjczc1.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/mlLLjqO.jpg)


Your board is similar to my order ;D. How do you like the key logo top in person?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jackie89 on Mon, 04 May 2020, 13:36:06
Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.

Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?

yes mines been sitting in HK since the 28th
Huh, I just got notification from DHL that mine was picked up, had previously been in 'shipment information received' since the second.  Hopefully yours also gets updated.

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Since 2nd of May? seems like it is going through processing - hopefully mine updates soon. Fingers crossed. Seeing that many others have their packages in a similar state gives me hope.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: clankgy1 on Mon, 04 May 2020, 13:41:01
Mine is out for delivery as well.  Left Hong Kong on Sat and on truck already.  No complaints :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Mon, 04 May 2020, 13:43:55
Still no shipping invoice here :'(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Mon, 04 May 2020, 13:47:39
My key65 was just delivered!
Some initial opening pictures


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Your board is similar to my order ;D. How do you like the key logo top in person?

i like it very much...def. the right choice imo. I couldn't see much machining issues with the logo , probably because it was less complicated to machine vs the kanji.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Mon, 04 May 2020, 13:48:33
Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.

Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?

yes mines been sitting in HK since the 28th
Huh, I just got notification from DHL that mine was picked up, had previously been in 'shipment information received' since the second.  Hopefully yours also gets updated.

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Since 2nd of May? seems like it is going through processing - hopefully mine updates soon. Fingers crossed. Seeing that many others have their packages in a similar state gives me hope.
Yep, second of may, so it's moving along. Just got an update that it will be delivered by Friday, although my experience with DHL Express leads me to think it might be sooner.


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Mon, 04 May 2020, 13:50:08
Does anyone who has one on hand have any luck with the keymap? Looks like qmk doesn't yet have this board, and there hasn't been a PR for it yet

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: crystalflame on Mon, 04 May 2020, 14:26:27
Heads up to anyone else who emailed to change their shipping address that mine was not changed to the one I gave even though I got a confirmation email back.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Mon, 04 May 2020, 14:29:49
Heads up to anyone else who emailed to change their shipping address that mine was not changed to the one I gave even though I got a confirmation email back.

I just went through this. My order was delivered today to my old apartment. Luckily, I met the new tenets before moving out so I just drove over there and they handed it over to me.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Soraie on Mon, 04 May 2020, 15:13:38
Still no shipping invoice here :'(

I know right! People receiving their boards and we're here twitching for just the shipping invoice....  :'(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jackie89 on Mon, 04 May 2020, 15:23:15
Oh boy, DHL have my package on hold at the local depot, not for too long I hope.

Hmm mine is still stuck in Hong Kong saying shipping information received. Anyone else with a similar situation?

yes mines been sitting in HK since the 28th
Huh, I just got notification from DHL that mine was picked up, had previously been in 'shipment information received' since the second.  Hopefully yours also gets updated.

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Since 2nd of May? seems like it is going through processing - hopefully mine updates soon. Fingers crossed. Seeing that many others have their packages in a similar state gives me hope.
Yep, second of may, so it's moving along. Just got an update that it will be delivered by Friday, although my experience with DHL Express leads me to think it might be sooner.


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Lucky! hope it gets to you real soon. I'm itching to get mine so I can build something haha.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Mon, 04 May 2020, 16:21:06
I can't seem to find the qmk firmware for this board.
Does anyone have it?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: clankgy1 on Mon, 04 May 2020, 16:24:48
I can't seem to find the qmk firmware for this board.
Does anyone have it?

I ddn'tt see the board in the QMK GitHub repository as of yesterday, but I might have mussed it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Mon, 04 May 2020, 16:30:26
I can't seem to find the qmk firmware for this board.
Does anyone have it?

I ddn'tt see the board in the QMK GitHub repository as of yesterday, but I might have mussed it.
I asked the folks on the qmk discord channel, and they have not yet received a pull request for it. They said it typically takes around a week to merge after a PR, so might be a bit until the fw is ready

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Wongstongs on Mon, 04 May 2020, 16:36:59
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/621880427224760330/706981829776900176/image0.jpg)
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Don't think it really needs any words.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Mon, 04 May 2020, 16:42:51
My key65 was just delivered!
Some initial opening pictures

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did it come with gloves too??
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dwarflemur on Mon, 04 May 2020, 16:53:00
Heads up to anyone else who emailed to change their shipping address that mine was not changed to the one I gave even though I got a confirmation email back.

Yeah same you can just redirect it when you get the DHL text though
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Mon, 04 May 2020, 16:57:22
My key65 was just delivered!
Some initial opening pictures

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Did you end up using the rubber sheet in between the PCB and plate? What purpose would the rubber sheet serve?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: clankgy1 on Mon, 04 May 2020, 17:07:31
(https://i.imgur.com/Z8taBhW.jpg)

(No unboxing until later, spent lunch hour retrieving it)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Mon, 04 May 2020, 17:21:13
My key65 was just delivered!
Some initial opening pictures

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 https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9  (https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9)

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It looks great! Thanks for sharing photos.
I'm impressed you built it already! How is the default keymap?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Mon, 04 May 2020, 17:30:40
For those that received theirs, did you all get a tracking number?  I paid for my shipping a while ago but never got a tracking number.

PS: for everyone that did get theirs: WOW!  All of them look amazing!
Title: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Mon, 04 May 2020, 17:33:01
My key65 was just delivered!
Some initial opening pictures

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Did you end up using the rubber sheet in between the PCB and plate? What purpose would the rubber sheet serve?
I did not use it...didn’t see a point and I’ve never used one before. Maybe someone else can chip in on it’s benefits.

And yes it did come with gloves and the key map is pretty basic.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Mon, 04 May 2020, 17:36:24
another thing: that new fox labs logo is slick
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Mon, 04 May 2020, 18:05:00
Still no shipping invoice here :'(
Same with me. I got address confirmation on 24th.


Congrats to those already got their boards!

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Mon, 04 May 2020, 18:11:33
My key65 was just delivered!
Some initial opening pictures

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 https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9  (https://m.imgur.com/a/ouzyDO9)

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Did you end up using the rubber sheet in between the PCB and plate? What purpose would the rubber sheet serve?
I did not use it...didn’t see a point and I’ve never used one before. Maybe someone else can chip in on it’s benefits.

And yes it did come with gloves and the key map is pretty basic.

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Can you send the keymap file and link?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Mon, 04 May 2020, 19:27:22
$69 shipping to Poland. Oof. Now the wait begins.

Loving the pics. Keep them coming. What do you do with the alcohol pads? Are you supposed to disinfect the board with them?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Mon, 04 May 2020, 19:31:54
$69 shipping to Poland. Oof. Now the wait begins.

Loving the pics. Keep them coming. What do you do with the alcohol pads? Are you supposed to disinfect the board with them?
It takes more than a week before it reaches us from shipper. So I guess no need to disinfect it.  Just throw the outer box once it arrived.

Those might be for cleaning the pcb after soldering.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Mon, 04 May 2020, 19:49:09
Heads up to anyone else who emailed to change their shipping address that mine was not changed to the one I gave even though I got a confirmation email back.

Are you saying even though the confirmation email had stated your new address they still shipped to your old one?

This is worrisome... My old address is in another country. I really hope he got it correct.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: edctog on Mon, 04 May 2020, 20:54:33
My key65 was just delivered!
Some initial opening pictures

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Did you end up using the rubber sheet in between the PCB and plate? What purpose would the rubber sheet serve?
It serve as a sound dampener and to reduce case ping further in a thin metal case like the Alu one. It's not an issue with a PC case and PC plate. If you're going use silent switches, this is a must.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Mon, 04 May 2020, 22:44:53
Took me a while to add my millmax sockets, but this board is amazing.
Sounds great too.

Only need the firmware now since I'm so used to having my Ctrl on Caps.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200505/f8c47de9383f92101b97ad187f4c88fb.jpg)

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Mon, 04 May 2020, 22:50:28
Well, it arrived. Can't build it because I'm waiting on switches.
Board seems to be pretty well built, no visible scratches on anything.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Mechalomania on Mon, 04 May 2020, 23:12:45
In the build guide (https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/20633), the stab wire for the enter key is facing upward.  I'm assuming this is the solder version of the PCB in the guide.  My partner got the hotswap version and the wire is oriented the downwards, but the foam doesn't account for this.  We had to cut the notch in order for it to fit well, otherwise the wire and foam would get in each other's way.

Question for those with the hotswap version (and maybe solder version is the same).  I'm hoping that this is a issue that will be resolved with the QMK file, but does the key above the right arrow do anything out of the box?  It doesn't register anything on switch hitter for us.  I noticed that some keys were also switched around (~ is keyed to ESC, while home is keyed to ~), so I'm hoping that the lack of an action is just a flashing issue and not a busted hotswap socket as there doesn't appear to be anything physically wrong with it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Mon, 04 May 2020, 23:21:04
In the build guide (https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/20633), the stab wire for the enter key is facing upward.  I'm assuming this is the solder version of the PCB in the guide.  My partner got the hotswap version and the wire is oriented the downwards, but the foam doesn't account for this.  We had to cut the notch in order for it to fit well, otherwise the wire and foam would get in each other's way.

Question for those with the hotswap version (and maybe solder version is the same).  I'm hoping that this is a issue that will be resolved with the QMK file, but does the key above the right arrow do anything out of the box?  It doesn't register anything on switch hitter for us.  I noticed that some keys were also switched around (~ is keyed to ESC, while home is keyed to ~), so I'm hoping that the lack of an action is just a flashing issue and not a busted hotswap socket as there doesn't appear to be anything physically wrong with it.

I am using the solder version.
The key above the right arrow is mapped to pgdn on mine. Which position on the board are the other keys? My esc is the top left key and top right is del.
Also it seems like it's not running QMK right now since I don't see QMK Toolbox list anything when I plug it in, but my other boards do.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Wongstongs on Mon, 04 May 2020, 23:31:09

Typing test! This thing sounds amazing  :thumb:

FYI I had to add foam under the pcb to stop it from shorting. Other than that, smooth build.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: matrixzj on Mon, 04 May 2020, 23:36:53
In the build guide (https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/20633), the stab wire for the enter key is facing upward.  I'm assuming this is the solder version of the PCB in the guide.  My partner got the hotswap version and the wire is oriented the downwards, but the foam doesn't account for this.  We had to cut the notch in order for it to fit well, otherwise the wire and foam would get in each other's way.

Question for those with the hotswap version (and maybe solder version is the same).  I'm hoping that this is a issue that will be resolved with the QMK file, but does the key above the right arrow do anything out of the box?  It doesn't register anything on switch hitter for us.  I noticed that some keys were also switched around (~ is keyed to ESC, while home is keyed to ~), so I'm hoping that the lack of an action is just a flashing issue and not a busted hotswap socket as there doesn't appear to be anything physically wrong with it.

Yes, for hotswap version, wire for 'enter' stab is in the opposite direction with soldering version.

For keys in the most right column, it can be programmed via QMK, which is posted in the first page.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: clankgy1 on Mon, 04 May 2020, 23:44:23
https://imgur.com/a/eJ38oCT

Black w/gold badge, WKL Blocker, 7u spacebar, hotswap and solder-able PCBs, titanium and brass plates.  Potato pics fresh from my low light bedroom.

Packed extremely well and looks good in low light.  I'll have a look when light is better.  Also, nice that 1 set of what I assume is plate foam was included.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Tue, 05 May 2020, 00:08:55
What kind of screws are those on the bottom holding the board together? Hex?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Tue, 05 May 2020, 00:14:33
Senter finally added the hex files. I hope soon it will be compatible with VIA like the Leaf60.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Tue, 05 May 2020, 00:16:20
Senter finally added the hex files. I hope soon it will be compatible with VIA like the Leaf60.

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Same, I'll try to add VIA support manually once it's on qmk.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: clankgy1 on Tue, 05 May 2020, 00:19:32
What kind of screws are those on the bottom holding the board together? Hex?

Forum ate my post.  I believe they are hex, but I didnt check closely.  Sorry for potato pics.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Tue, 05 May 2020, 00:19:57

Typing test! This thing sounds amazing  :thumb:

FYI I had to add foam under the pcb to stop it from shorting. Other than that, smooth build.

This is what I'm afraid of. Why is esd protection not a standard in custom keyboards??
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Tue, 05 May 2020, 01:27:17
Decided to just bite the bullet and port this to VIA myself.
Looks like it's working well for my really sloppy job.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Tue, 05 May 2020, 01:43:35
Decided to just bite the bullet and port this to VIA myself.
Looks like it's working well for my really sloppy job.
Please do share the tutorial

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Tue, 05 May 2020, 05:00:08
Heads up to anyone else who emailed to change their shipping address that mine was not changed to the one I gave even though I got a confirmation email back.

Are you saying even though the confirmation email had stated your new address they still shipped to your old one?

This is worrisome... My old address is in another country. I really hope he got it correct.
I recieved mine after getting my address changed, so I wouldn't be too worried.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SolidCactus on Tue, 05 May 2020, 05:01:14
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Don't think it really needs any words.

Wow that looks absolutely incredible! Great combo dude and nice work Fox Lab
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Solotov on Tue, 05 May 2020, 05:03:11

Typing test! This thing sounds amazing  :thumb:

FYI I had to add foam under the pcb to stop it from shorting. Other than that, smooth build.

Hmm, how did that happen? It's an alu full plate, right?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Tue, 05 May 2020, 05:27:00
So first a couple of pics, don’t mind the key caps, they’re temporary until I get some nicer group buy ones delivered... 

Board looks amazing, I love it.  However, I didn’t put in the dampening thing since it’s PC (in reality I actually forgot til after I finished soldering but decided it’s okay since it’s PC), and now the keyboard doesn’t work.  Tested it right after soldering and was fine, so I’m guessing like someone said above it’s because I didn’t use the sound dampener.  So now I have to desolder anyways  :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jmsp0511 on Tue, 05 May 2020, 07:08:06
So first a couple of pics, don’t mind the key caps, they’re temporary until I get some nicer group buy ones delivered... 

Board looks amazing, I love it.  However, I didn’t put in the dampening thing since it’s PC (in reality I actually forgot til after I finished soldering but decided it’s okay since it’s PC), and now the keyboard doesn’t work.  Tested it right after soldering and was fine, so I’m guessing like someone said above it’s because I didn’t use the sound dampener.  So now I have to desolder anyways  :)

Wait what??!!!!
So it was tested right after soldering, before you put it inside the case? And it worked?

But after you fully assembled it doesnt work???

Can you please elaborate with more details?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Tue, 05 May 2020, 07:32:18
So first a couple of pics, don’t mind the key caps, they’re temporary until I get some nicer group buy ones delivered... 

Board looks amazing, I love it.  However, I didn’t put in the dampening thing since it’s PC (in reality I actually forgot til after I finished soldering but decided it’s okay since it’s PC), and now the keyboard doesn’t work.  Tested it right after soldering and was fine, so I’m guessing like someone said above it’s because I didn’t use the sound dampener.  So now I have to desolder anyways  :)

Wait what??!!!!
So it was tested right after soldering, before you put it inside the case? And it worked?

But after you fully assembled it doesnt work???

Can you please elaborate with more details?

Not sure what exactly is wrong, maybe a bad soldering job or something?  I'm gonna desolder and use the include rubber gasket between the pcb and the plate and see if that fixes the issue.  The keyboard works when I first plug it in, but if I press to hard in the center area, it will stop responding.  But every key was working fine when I tested it after soldering.

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Tue, 05 May 2020, 07:41:14
So first a couple of pics, don’t mind the key caps, they’re temporary until I get some nicer group buy ones delivered... 

Board looks amazing, I love it.  However, I didn’t put in the dampening thing since it’s PC (in reality I actually forgot til after I finished soldering but decided it’s okay since it’s PC), and now the keyboard doesn’t work.  Tested it right after soldering and was fine, so I’m guessing like someone said above it’s because I didn’t use the sound dampener.  So now I have to desolder anyways  :)

Wait what??!!!!
So it was tested right after soldering, before you put it inside the case? And it worked?

But after you fully assembled it doesnt work???

Can you please elaborate with more details?

Not sure what exactly is wrong, maybe a bad soldering job or something?  I'm gonna desolder and use the include rubber gasket between the pcb and the plate and see if that fixes the issue.  The keyboard works when I first plug it in, but if I press to hard in the center area, it will stop responding.  But every key was working fine when I tested it after soldering.

It is because of the reset button at the back of PCB. It touches the back case. I read in zfrontier, they suggest to clip it or desolder the button.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Tue, 05 May 2020, 08:21:09
So first a couple of pics, don’t mind the key caps, they’re temporary until I get some nicer group buy ones delivered... 

Board looks amazing, I love it.  However, I didn’t put in the dampening thing since it’s PC (in reality I actually forgot til after I finished soldering but decided it’s okay since it’s PC), and now the keyboard doesn’t work.  Tested it right after soldering and was fine, so I’m guessing like someone said above it’s because I didn’t use the sound dampener.  So now I have to desolder anyways  :)

Wait what??!!!!
So it was tested right after soldering, before you put it inside the case? And it worked?

But after you fully assembled it doesnt work???

Can you please elaborate with more details?

Not sure what exactly is wrong, maybe a bad soldering job or something?  I'm gonna desolder and use the include rubber gasket between the pcb and the plate and see if that fixes the issue.  The keyboard works when I first plug it in, but if I press to hard in the center area, it will stop responding.  But every key was working fine when I tested it after soldering.

It is because of the reset button at the back of PCB. It touches the back case. I read in zfrontier, they suggest to clip it or desolder the button.

interesting, mine is working fine... and the reset button def is not touching the back case, maybe gaskets under the pcb are missing? shuld bring the pcb up higher.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: matrixzj on Tue, 05 May 2020, 08:27:32
So first a couple of pics, don’t mind the key caps, they’re temporary until I get some nicer group buy ones delivered... 

Board looks amazing, I love it.  However, I didn’t put in the dampening thing since it’s PC (in reality I actually forgot til after I finished soldering but decided it’s okay since it’s PC), and now the keyboard doesn’t work.  Tested it right after soldering and was fine, so I’m guessing like someone said above it’s because I didn’t use the sound dampener.  So now I have to desolder anyways  :)

Wait what??!!!!
So it was tested right after soldering, before you put it inside the case? And it worked?

But after you fully assembled it doesnt work???

Can you please elaborate with more details?

Not sure what exactly is wrong, maybe a bad soldering job or something?  I'm gonna desolder and use the include rubber gasket between the pcb and the plate and see if that fixes the issue.  The keyboard works when I first plug it in, but if I press to hard in the center area, it will stop responding.  But every key was working fine when I tested it after soldering.

Please try to clip WHITE part of 'reset' key as show in this pic
(https://i.imgur.com/4D62qRO.jpg)

Since pcb is very close to bottom and too high of 'reset' key, 'reset' button will be pressed in some scenarios, such as occurred with you.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Tue, 05 May 2020, 08:30:44




interesting, mine is working fine... and the reset button def is not touching the back case, maybe gaskets under the pcb are missing? shuld bring the pcb up higher.


Did yours come with gaskets? Did you use them? If yes, did they alter the alignment of the USB port on the PCB with the case?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Tue, 05 May 2020, 08:35:19




interesting, mine is working fine... and the reset button def is not touching the back case, maybe gaskets under the pcb are missing? shuld bring the pcb up higher.


Did yours come with gaskets? Did you use them? If yes, did they alter the alignment of the USB port on the PCB with the case?

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it should come with gaskets...and i did use them. It does move the usb port up, but it is still perfectly accessible .
Also, i took a look at my spare pcb and it seems the reset button is already pre-clipped.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Tue, 05 May 2020, 08:46:00
Decided to just bite the bullet and port this to VIA myself.
Looks like it's working well for my really sloppy job.
Please do share the tutorial

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After uploading the json to the keyboard firmware builder, download the source code.

I just stuck that into a cloned directory of qmk_firmware and compiled it.

Then just follow any of MechMerlin's port tutorials on YouTube and you should get VIA working.

This is of course just a temporary solution until it gets officially ported to VIA.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Tue, 05 May 2020, 08:50:15



it should come with gaskets...and i did use them. It does move the usb port up, but it is still perfectly accessible .
Also, i took a look at my spare pcb and it seems the reset button is already pre-clipped.

Great to know, thanks so much! I'll be sure to post photos of the PCB/reset switch when I receive it.
I am curious whether I will be able to run led strips on the PCB given how tight the clearance is.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Tue, 05 May 2020, 08:50:42
Decided to just bite the bullet and port this to VIA myself.
Looks like it's working well for my really sloppy job.
Please do share the tutorial

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After uploading the json to the keyboard firmware builder, download the source code.

I just stuck that into a cloned directory of qmk_firmware and compiled it.

Then just follow any of MechMerlin's port tutorials on YouTube and you should get VIA working.

This is of course just a temporary solution until it gets officially ported to VIA.

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Thanks! I will check it. But for now, I am sitting here still waiting for shipping invoice haha!

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Mechalomania on Tue, 05 May 2020, 09:26:09
I am using the solder version.
The key above the right arrow is mapped to pgdn on mine. Which position on the board are the other keys? My esc is the top left key and top right is del.
Also it seems like it's not running QMK right now since I don't see QMK Toolbox list anything when I plug it in, but my other boards do.

From top right descending, it goes:
`; page up; page down; *nothing*; right arrow
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Tue, 05 May 2020, 09:35:05
I am using the solder version.
The key above the right arrow is mapped to pgdn on mine. Which position on the board are the other keys? My esc is the top left key and top right is del.
Also it seems like it's not running QMK right now since I don't see QMK Toolbox list anything when I plug it in, but my other boards do.

From top right descending, it goes:
`; page up; page down; *nothing*; right arrow

Try flashing the firmware senter uploaded to the first post.
You can also upload the json the firmware builder site and map your own layout.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Tue, 05 May 2020, 09:36:55
I am using the solder version.
The key above the right arrow is mapped to pgdn on mine. Which position on the board are the other keys? My esc is the top left key and top right is del.
Also it seems like it's not running QMK right now since I don't see QMK Toolbox list anything when I plug it in, but my other boards do.

From top right descending, it goes:
`; page up; page down; *nothing*; right arrow
The *nothing* is the fn key


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Mechalomania on Tue, 05 May 2020, 09:47:47
Whelp, I'm a dummy.  Thanks everyone, it works!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Tue, 05 May 2020, 09:59:58
my reset key came preclipped, and it's still resetting when I press too hard, so I guess I'll have to desolder it..  Not really sure how to do that with the reset button, do I just get the solder off and pull it off?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Tue, 05 May 2020, 10:03:35
Anyone with a poly plate get theirs yet? I’m curious if there were any build issues and how it sounds. Hopefully mine arrives soon
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Wongstongs on Tue, 05 May 2020, 10:15:01
Hmm, how did that happen? It's an alu full plate, right?

Yeah full alu plate. I'm assuming one of my switch legs in the middle of the board was touching the bottom of the case, but can't be certain. The foam did fix it.

With all of the gaskets installed, you really do have to screw this thing together tight, so it might be the gaskets forcing things closer together?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: clankgy1 on Tue, 05 May 2020, 10:20:22
Do these PCBs have a keycode to enter bootmapper/reset mode?  I dont want to desolder the reset button only to find out that there isn't a way to flash the board going forward.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Tue, 05 May 2020, 10:23:17
Do these PCBs have a keycode to enter bootmapper/reset mode?  I dont want to desolder the reset button only to find out that there isn't a way to flash the board going forward.
try fn + esc
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Tue, 05 May 2020, 12:26:13
just received my invoice!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Tue, 05 May 2020, 12:32:29
Just got my shipping invoice! Very excited :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Tue, 05 May 2020, 12:33:34
Just paid my invoice hypeeeeee
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: LazyJackfruit on Tue, 05 May 2020, 14:01:42
Just received my invoice. If its any consolation for those yet to receive one, there was a (370) beside the invoice which may refer to the current order that was just processed, out of the 480 total boards ordered.  The (370) didn't refer to my order # nor the invoice # on the spreadsheet for reference. $71 shipping to TX.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Tyson on Tue, 05 May 2020, 14:26:03
If anyone gets there's in and isn't happy with it I'd love to buy it from you, I don't mind the color combination either, I have the resources to change the color if I really want to (Unless it's polycarb lol).
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: deathjester on Tue, 05 May 2020, 14:40:48
Just paid my invoice. Absolutely stoked!!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Wongstongs on Tue, 05 May 2020, 14:54:05
Do these PCBs have a keycode to enter bootmapper/reset mode?  I dont want to desolder the reset button only to find out that there isn't a way to flash the board going forward.

Fn+esc

Just flashed mine using QMK toolbox
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Aiwanei on Tue, 05 May 2020, 15:10:18
Hmm, how did that happen? It's an alu full plate, right?

Yeah full alu plate. I'm assuming one of my switch legs in the middle of the board was touching the bottom of the case, but can't be certain. The foam did fix it.

With all of the gaskets installed, you really do have to screw this thing together tight, so it might be the gaskets forcing things closer together?

I actually had to loosen mine, had tightened it up and the board stopped working, because the reset switch was being hit constantly, even after trimming it.  So I guess I'm going to possibly remove the reset switch.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: InediblePi on Tue, 05 May 2020, 15:25:56
Looking to trade my PC Key65 with WK and brass key logo for an e-black Key65 with e-pink key logo. If interested, please PM me for complete build details!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Tue, 05 May 2020, 15:34:55
ne via avail?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Tue, 05 May 2020, 16:07:24
Quick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:

Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: toanta on Tue, 05 May 2020, 16:19:44
Quick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:

Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?

This is pretty concerning as people are finding out this issue now.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Tue, 05 May 2020, 16:33:26
Quick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:

Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?

This is pretty concerning as people are finding out this issue now.
I have a PC plate/case and not having this issue

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: 4nalee on Tue, 05 May 2020, 17:29:49
Mine came in the mail today but I received a 6.25u spacebar plate instead of a 7u spacebar plate. Does anyone have an extra plate they don't need that they can sell me?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Tue, 05 May 2020, 17:40:56
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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: edctog on Tue, 05 May 2020, 19:50:57
Thing of Beauty!
(https://i.imgur.com/fGc1LLK.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: edctog on Tue, 05 May 2020, 19:54:35
Quick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:

Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?

Nope, not for me. I installed all 16 gaskets for the plate and the silicone sound dampener. There is plenty of space between the bottom of the case and the reset button.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Tue, 05 May 2020, 19:57:22
Thing of Beauty!
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/fGc1LLK.jpg)

Ohh looks nice! What is the cable solution, looks like you have an aviation adapter on the board at the USB port?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Tue, 05 May 2020, 20:13:08
Just received my invoice. If its any consolation for those yet to receive one, there was a (370) beside the invoice which may refer to the current order that was just processed, out of the 480 total boards ordered.  The (370) didn't refer to my order # nor the invoice # on the spreadsheet for reference. $71 shipping to TX.

Just got mine as well. 392
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: clankgy1 on Tue, 05 May 2020, 21:24:14
Quick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:

Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?

Nope, not for me. I installed all 16 gaskets for the plate and the silicone sound dampener. There is plenty of space between the bottom of the case and the reset button.

Not directly addressed at you, but why would you have plenty of space between bottom of case and reset button while others are having issues with button contacting plate?  Seems like a very big variance.  I'm waiting on switches before putting mine together. but this is a curious development.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: edctog on Tue, 05 May 2020, 22:12:36
Quick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:

Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?

Nope, not for me. I installed all 16 gaskets for the plate and the silicone sound dampener. There is plenty of space between the bottom of the case and the reset button.

Not directly addressed at you, but why would you have plenty of space between bottom of case and reset button while others are having issues with button contacting plate?  Seems like a very big variance.  I'm waiting on switches before putting mine together. but this is a curious development.

Well, I read people reviews on Zfrontier and some have this problem. But they also didn't install all of the gaskets correctly as mentioned by some other people.  I might exaggerate by plenty of space, but I didn't have any difficulty put the bottom part on the case. It didn't feel like I pressed the PCB back or anything. The reset button is not at the lowest part of the PCB so if the lowest part made it, the reset button should be fine. Mine is a hotswap though, so I can't say for sure for the universal one.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: edctog on Tue, 05 May 2020, 22:40:30
Quick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:

Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?

I apologize. In my haste, I didn't see that you are asking specifically Alu buyers. Mine is PC. However, I can answer the part about the placement of the reset button. It's on the bottom side (face-down side like you said). The silicone pad included with this case is to sandwich between the PCB and the plate, not for the bottom of the case. It doesn't push the PCB any further down. I think maybe Alu users are tightening the screws more than they should and/or they didn't install all of the gasket pieces (16 for the plates and 6 for the middle case).
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: merkz on Tue, 05 May 2020, 23:50:52
Just got my shipping invoice, twas $68 to Florida
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: clankgy1 on Tue, 05 May 2020, 23:52:55
Quick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:

Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?

Nope, not for me. I installed all 16 gaskets for the plate and the silicone sound dampener. There is plenty of space between the bottom of the case and the reset button.

Not directly addressed at you, but why would you have plenty of space between bottom of case and reset button while others are having issues with button contacting plate?  Seems like a very big variance.  I'm waiting on switches before putting mine together. but this is a curious development.

Well, I read people reviews on Zfrontier and some have this problem. But they also didn't install all of the gaskets correctly as mentioned by some other people.  I might exaggerate by plenty of space, but I didn't have any difficulty put the bottom part on the case. It didn't feel like I pressed the PCB back or anything. The reset button is not at the lowest part of the PCB so if the lowest part made it, the reset button should be fine. Mine is a hotswap though, so I can't say for sure for the universal one.

This makes a lot of sense as to why some builds are having issues.  Lack of gasket installation would certainly affect bottom clearance.

Edit: Question on gaskets: (16 for the plates and 6 for the middle case).  I understand the gaskets on top and middle case for plates, what do the other 6 do and where do they go?  I have my keeb packed up until switches arrive, but I dont want to miss any gasket locations.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Wed, 06 May 2020, 00:19:51
Quick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:

Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?

Nope, not for me. I installed all 16 gaskets for the plate and the silicone sound dampener. There is plenty of space between the bottom of the case and the reset button.

Not directly addressed at you, but why would you have plenty of space between bottom of case and reset button while others are having issues with button contacting plate?  Seems like a very big variance.  I'm waiting on switches before putting mine together. but this is a curious development.

Well, I read people reviews on Zfrontier and some have this problem. But they also didn't install all of the gaskets correctly as mentioned by some other people.  I might exaggerate by plenty of space, but I didn't have any difficulty put the bottom part on the case. It didn't feel like I pressed the PCB back or anything. The reset button is not at the lowest part of the PCB so if the lowest part made it, the reset button should be fine. Mine is a hotswap though, so I can't say for sure for the universal one.

This makes a lot of sense as to why some builds are having issues.  Lack of gasket installation would certainly affect bottom clearance.

Edit: Question on gaskets: (16 for the plates and 6 for the middle case).  I understand the gaskets on top and middle case for plates, what do the other 6 do and where do they go?  I have my keeb packed up until switches arrive, but I dont want to miss any gasket locations.
I'm just gonna wait for a streamer to build it, and only them am I gonna build mine.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: clankgy1 on Wed, 06 May 2020, 00:32:32
Thought about having a streamer build mine tbh, but I am anal retentive about my stabs.  Yes even more so than some of the streamers I have seen.  (and it prob wouldn't end up on stream unless i was first one).
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: karmbit klacks on Wed, 06 May 2020, 03:21:28
Seeing everyone's builds is making me sad that I have yet to receive my shipping invoice :( anyone else on the same boat?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MsCookz on Wed, 06 May 2020, 05:07:34
Seeing everyone's builds is making me sad that I have yet to receive my shipping invoice :( anyone else on the same boat?

got my invoice yesterday and I'm in the last batch
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Wed, 06 May 2020, 06:54:31
Quick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:

Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?

Nope, not for me. I installed all 16 gaskets for the plate and the silicone sound dampener. There is plenty of space between the bottom of the case and the reset button.

Not directly addressed at you, but why would you have plenty of space between bottom of case and reset button while others are having issues with button contacting plate?  Seems like a very big variance.  I'm waiting on switches before putting mine together. but this is a curious development.

Well, I read people reviews on Zfrontier and some have this problem. But they also didn't install all of the gaskets correctly as mentioned by some other people.  I might exaggerate by plenty of space, but I didn't have any difficulty put the bottom part on the case. It didn't feel like I pressed the PCB back or anything. The reset button is not at the lowest part of the PCB so if the lowest part made it, the reset button should be fine. Mine is a hotswap though, so I can't say for sure for the universal one.

This makes a lot of sense as to why some builds are having issues.  Lack of gasket installation would certainly affect bottom clearance.

Edit: Question on gaskets: (16 for the plates and 6 for the middle case).  I understand the gaskets on top and middle case for plates, what do the other 6 do and where do they go?  I have my keeb packed up until switches arrive, but I dont want to miss any gasket locations.
You can pull off the middle layer and you put the 6 gaskets between the bottom and the middle layer, there's grooves where they need to go. Or at least I hope, if not I just ****ed up my keyboard badly LMAO

also, when will firmware be available on gmk
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Wed, 06 May 2020, 07:16:28
Quick room poll, is there anyone who got an alu case that HAS NOT had an issue with the reset button/board not working? There's just no way this issue made it through QC D:

Also, wouldn't any layer (foam, rubber, etc.) in between the pcb and the bottom of the case --> eliminate space and make it more likely for the reset button to unintentionally trigger? Or is the reset button not on the face-down side of the pcb like I think it is...?

Nope, not for me. I installed all 16 gaskets for the plate and the silicone sound dampener. There is plenty of space between the bottom of the case and the reset button.

Not directly addressed at you, but why would you have plenty of space between bottom of case and reset button while others are having issues with button contacting plate?  Seems like a very big variance.  I'm waiting on switches before putting mine together. but this is a curious development.

Well, I read people reviews on Zfrontier and some have this problem. But they also didn't install all of the gaskets correctly as mentioned by some other people.  I might exaggerate by plenty of space, but I didn't have any difficulty put the bottom part on the case. It didn't feel like I pressed the PCB back or anything. The reset button is not at the lowest part of the PCB so if the lowest part made it, the reset button should be fine. Mine is a hotswap though, so I can't say for sure for the universal one.

This makes a lot of sense as to why some builds are having issues.  Lack of gasket installation would certainly affect bottom clearance.

Edit: Question on gaskets: (16 for the plates and 6 for the middle case).  I understand the gaskets on top and middle case for plates, what do the other 6 do and where do they go?  I have my keeb packed up until switches arrive, but I dont want to miss any gasket locations.
You can pull off the middle layer and you put the 6 gaskets between the bottom and the middle layer, there's grooves where they need to go. Or at least I hope, if not I just ****ed up my keyboard badly LMAO

also, when will firmware be available on gmk

If only this thing had a build guide like polaris did. That thing was bloody helpful.

Also think u mixed up GMK and QMK. I don't think anyone knows when it'll be up.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: matrixzj on Wed, 06 May 2020, 07:25:00
Hmm, how did that happen? It's an alu full plate, right?

Yeah full alu plate. I'm assuming one of my switch legs in the middle of the board was touching the bottom of the case, but can't be certain. The foam did fix it.

With all of the gaskets installed, you really do have to screw this thing together tight, so it might be the gaskets forcing things closer together?

I actually had to loosen mine, had tightened it up and the board stopped working, because the reset switch was being hit constantly, even after trimming it.  So I guess I'm going to possibly remove the reset switch.

have you put all gaskets rubber on ? as tested, if all rubbers were put on the right position and reset key was clipped, it will not be happened
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kabocha on Wed, 06 May 2020, 07:39:12
Just finished my build. Love the board. However, as mentioned in the thread, the physical reset button on the universal pcb ends up pressing against the bottom case. I ended up desoldering the reset switch from the pcb. Another issue I had was the soldering pad around the split backspace, the pad was not registering from the back and I ended up having to add some solder from the switch side.

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Wed, 06 May 2020, 09:13:35
Hmm, how did that happen? It's an alu full plate, right?

Yeah full alu plate. I'm assuming one of my switch legs in the middle of the board was touching the bottom of the case, but can't be certain. The foam did fix it.

With all of the gaskets installed, you really do have to screw this thing together tight, so it might be the gaskets forcing things closer together?

I actually had to loosen mine, had tightened it up and the board stopped working, because the reset switch was being hit constantly, even after trimming it.  So I guess I'm going to possibly remove the reset switch.

have you put all gaskets rubber on ? as tested, if all rubbers were put on the right position and reset key was clipped, it will not be happened
I can't speak for everyone else, but I have all the gaskets on correctly as far as I know, button has been trimmed and I still get the reset button problem (full pc board if it matters) if I press down on caps hard enough. Obvious solution is to not press down caps hard.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 06 May 2020, 09:19:07
Why they use a big reset button? >.<

It would be better just use short pins on gap of space bar plate accessible from top.

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Wed, 06 May 2020, 09:23:17
Hmm, how did that happen? It's an alu full plate, right?

Yeah full alu plate. I'm assuming one of my switch legs in the middle of the board was touching the bottom of the case, but can't be certain. The foam did fix it.

With all of the gaskets installed, you really do have to screw this thing together tight, so it might be the gaskets forcing things closer together?

I actually had to loosen mine, had tightened it up and the board stopped working, because the reset switch was being hit constantly, even after trimming it.  So I guess I'm going to possibly remove the reset switch.

have you put all gaskets rubber on ? as tested, if all rubbers were put on the right position and reset key was clipped, it will not be happened
I can't speak for everyone else, but I have all the gaskets on correctly as far as I know, button has been trimmed and I still get the reset button problem (full pc board if it matters) if I press down on caps hard enough. Obvious solution is to not press down caps hard.
That's scary to know, that there is something fundamentally wrong with pcb's.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Wed, 06 May 2020, 09:26:26
Might be a dumb question, but I'll shoot it off anyway: If the reset button is desoldered, can the pads be jumped manually for resetting if needed?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Wongstongs on Wed, 06 May 2020, 09:27:06
Hmm, how did that happen? It's an alu full plate, right?

Yeah full alu plate. I'm assuming one of my switch legs in the middle of the board was touching the bottom of the case, but can't be certain. The foam did fix it.

With all of the gaskets installed, you really do have to screw this thing together tight, so it might be the gaskets forcing things closer together?

I actually had to loosen mine, had tightened it up and the board stopped working, because the reset switch was being hit constantly, even after trimming it.  So I guess I'm going to possibly remove the reset switch.

have you put all gaskets rubber on ? as tested, if all rubbers were put on the right position and reset key was clipped, it will not be happened
Yes I installed all of the gaskets. 8 on either side where the plate rests and 6 between the bottom and middle pieces.


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 06 May 2020, 09:27:49
Might be a dumb question, but I'll shoot it off anyway: If the reset button is desoldered, can the pads be jumped manually for resetting if needed?

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Of course. Or use combination on keymap for reset.

I always use Fn+Space+R. With this, you do not need to open the case just to flash.


Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Wed, 06 May 2020, 09:41:40
Might be a dumb question, but I'll shoot it off anyway: If the reset button is desoldered, can the pads be jumped manually for resetting if needed?

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Of course. Or use combination on keymap for reset.

I always use Fn+Space+R. With this, you do not need to open the case just to flash.
I definitely use a reset combo/layer, but it is nice to know that I have a hardware method of resetting if things get too sideways.
If jumping is possible I don't really think there is a problem de-soldering the button, assuming the aluminum case or weight won't  jump the reset pads.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Wed, 06 May 2020, 10:16:52
Easy to add a ws2812 rgb led strip !

(https://i.imgur.com/KqOD8Nm.jpg)


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Wed, 06 May 2020, 10:21:13
Easy to add a ws2812 rgb led strip !

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Nice! Do you have any control over it with the default firmware?
EDIT: also, when the strip is affixed, will it have clearance issues with the case? Thinking about the reset button issue and how little clearance there is makes me wonder if this will fit.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Wed, 06 May 2020, 10:26:44
Easy to add a ws2812 rgb led strip !

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Nice! Do you have any control over it with the default firmware?

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default firmware for the solder version has fn+ q / w/ e/ r mapped to RBG controls..
However, the default firmware only allows 6 leds so you are going to have to import the universal firmware from the front page on to kbfirmware and set to the number of leds you want.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Wed, 06 May 2020, 10:29:58
I have a PC case and plate and noticed that pressing hard on caps lock does reset my board as well.
It hasn't triggered while I've been normally using the board since I also have caps mapped to lctrl.

I too might just de solder the reset button.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Tyson on Wed, 06 May 2020, 10:35:49
I take back my request to buy this board, this reset pin issue is a big yikes. I'll just wait for another 65 to come out. No biggie.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Wed, 06 May 2020, 10:50:48
I take back my request to buy this board, this reset pin issue is a big yikes. I'll just wait for another 65 to come out. No biggie.

i mean...i wouldn't really say its that big of an issue that you disqualify any interest in the board, the pcb functions perfectly fine otherwise. You have to press really hard (which you would never do when typing normally) to get it to reset when gaskets are put in. plus, de-soldering is a 5 second job and mapping the reset key is easy(already mapped stock).
Still a sweet board imo.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Wed, 06 May 2020, 10:54:04
I take back my request to buy this board, this reset pin issue is a big yikes. I'll just wait for another 65 to come out. No biggie.

i mean...i wouldn't really say its that big of an issue that you disqualify any interest in the board, the pcb functions perfectly fine otherwise. You have to press really hard (which you would never do when typing normally) to get it to reset when gaskets are put in. plus, de-soldering is a 5 second job and mapping the reset key is easy(already mapped stock).
Still a sweet board imo.
I totally agree with you. I just unsoldered it right now and it took no time at all. This is a fantastic board and just one reset button doesn't change it at all. Could probably get a flatter reset button anyway the area seems like it fit anything.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Wongstongs on Wed, 06 May 2020, 10:55:23
I take back my request to buy this board, this reset pin issue is a big yikes. I'll just wait for another 65 to come out. No biggie.

i mean...i wouldn't really say its that big of an issue that you disqualify any interest in the board, the pcb functions perfectly fine otherwise. You have to press really hard (which you would never do when typing normally) to get it to reset when gaskets are put in. plus, de-soldering is a 5 second job and mapping the reset key is easy(already mapped stock).
Still a sweet board imo.

I didn't have to press whatsoever on mine to get it to trip.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Wed, 06 May 2020, 11:09:57
I take back my request to buy this board, this reset pin issue is a big yikes. I'll just wait for another 65 to come out. No biggie.

i mean...i wouldn't really say its that big of an issue that you disqualify any interest in the board, the pcb functions perfectly fine otherwise. You have to press really hard (which you would never do when typing normally) to get it to reset when gaskets are put in. plus, de-soldering is a 5 second job and mapping the reset key is easy(already mapped stock).
Still a sweet board imo.
I totally agree with you. I just unsoldered it right now and it took no time at all. This is a fantastic board and just one reset button doesn't change it at all. Could probably get a flatter reset button anyway the area seems like it fit anything.

This looks like the move. Going to desolder the reset button and adore this board to the fullest but darn what a QC botch lol
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 06 May 2020, 11:18:37
Sorry about the rest button issue.

We identified the reset button issue after sending out the Chinese orders. It happened because the PCB supplier changed the BOM after the prototype was tested. We have removed the physical reset buttons for all the following PCBs. Only the first 40 or so PCBs still have the physical reset button. You can simply remove it with a wirecutter or soldering iron. It's not a necessary part for the PCB.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Wed, 06 May 2020, 11:20:01
why is this not in qmk???

theoretically this could have been done a long time ago
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: clankgy1 on Wed, 06 May 2020, 13:02:45
I'm selling my Key65 (layoff from work announced) unassembled.  #562 in google doc below.  PM me if interested.  (EDIT: SOLD, thanks)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ke59MgAsZ6ndgRrGKoOHbbexn5sZshrAS9p2pbRq0U0/edit#gid=0
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Wed, 06 May 2020, 14:00:49
Has anyone had any luck with programming their key65 yet? When I head into QMK confiq the pcb isn't listed. I saw the .hex and .json files, but I am unsure what use these are without the keyboard being listed in the config. I've always just used VIA in the past but, it doesnt seem that VIA is able to recognize this PCB.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Wed, 06 May 2020, 14:07:57
Has anyone had any luck with programming their key65 yet? When I head into QMK confiq the pcb isn't listed. I saw the .hex and .json files, but I am unsure what use these are without the keyboard being listed in the config. I've always just used VIA in the past but, it doesnt seem that VIA is able to recognize this PCB.
you can use the website linked (https://kbfirmware.com/) and upload the json file.  after you change the keymap and stuff you'll see and option to compile as a hex file.  The hex file you use in qmk to flash keyboard with.  Use it as a local file in the QMK toolbox instead of selecting your keyboard from the list.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecheeselouise on Wed, 06 May 2020, 14:30:06
Has anyone had any luck with programming their key65 yet? When I head into QMK confiq the pcb isn't listed. I saw the .hex and .json files, but I am unsure what use these are without the keyboard being listed in the config. I've always just used VIA in the past but, it doesnt seem that VIA is able to recognize this PCB.
you can use the website linked (https://kbfirmware.com/) and upload the json file.  after you change the keymap and stuff you'll see and option to compile as a hex file.  The hex file you use in qmk to flash keyboard with.  Use it as a local file in the QMK toolbox instead of selecting your keyboard from the list.

Thanks for the help. Worked perfectly.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Wed, 06 May 2020, 15:18:55
I have a rudimentary VIA support going, if someone wants to test.
Disclaimer: I don't have all layouts and it may or may not work. Use at your own risk.
Edit: forgot you need an updated hex. Here's mine that I used for my board. Again use at your own risk.
Edit2: Updated json to match hex.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Wed, 06 May 2020, 15:24:58
You need to enable Design tab in VIA, then load the json file.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Wed, 06 May 2020, 16:53:12
Will there be any extras that will be available?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 06 May 2020, 17:39:54
I have a rudimentary VIA support going, if someone wants to test.
Disclaimer: I don't have all layouts and it may or may not work. Use at your own risk.
Edit: forgot you need an updated hex. Here's mine that I used for my board. Again use at your own risk.
Edit2: Updated json to match hex.
If failed, is there any chance to damage the pcb? Are you using it now in VIA?

Can you give step by step instruction on how to convert it? Thanks

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 06 May 2020, 17:41:35
I have a rudimentary VIA support going, if someone wants to test.
Disclaimer: I don't have all layouts and it may or may not work. Use at your own risk.
Edit: forgot you need an updated hex. Here's mine that I used for my board. Again use at your own risk.
Edit2: Updated json to match hex.

Thanks for your effort. I'll test it by myself when I get time.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 06 May 2020, 17:48:17
Are they any extras that will become available?

No extras but it shouldn't be difficult to buy one from a GB participant.
It was an unlimited GB. In total around 600 kits were sold in the international GB and Chinese GB.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 06 May 2020, 17:57:04
why is this not in qmk???

theoretically this could have been done a long time ago

kbfirmware.com is more convenient for those who don't write codes or use Github. If you do write C and know how to compile it, kbfirmware.com can simply generate the QMK codes. The json files for kbfirmware.com is attached in the OP if you didn't see them.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kamimamita on Wed, 06 May 2020, 18:06:23
Just finished building mine, really happy with how it turned out!
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 06 May 2020, 18:07:53
why is this not in qmk???

theoretically this could have been done a long time ago

kbfirmware.com is more convenient for those who don't write codes or use Github. If you do write C and know how to compile it, kbfirmware.com can simply generate the QMK codes. The json files for kbfirmware.com is attached in the OP if you didn't see them.
If in qmk, it would be easily to port it to be compatible with VIA. That's the main objective.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jackie89 on Wed, 06 May 2020, 18:08:21
Is anyone else still waiting for their order to move? Been a week since I got my tracking number and all I see on DHL is Shipment information received. I thought we only received tracking once the packages were processed by proxy/DHL?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 06 May 2020, 18:17:45
why is this not in qmk???

theoretically this could have been done a long time ago

kbfirmware.com is more convenient for those who don't write codes or use Github. If you do write C and know how to compile it, kbfirmware.com can simply generate the QMK codes. The json files for kbfirmware.com is attached in the OP if you didn't see them.
If in qmk, it would be easily to port it to be compatible with VIA. That's the main objective.

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I see. I've never used VIA THB. I always compile the codes or use kbfirmware.com.
I still don't understand why people ask for merging the codes into QMK's main branch. Is it required by VIA? If someone knows how do port, he/she must know how to compile the codes. If he/she only want it to be convenient,  why care about QMK's main branch?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Wed, 06 May 2020, 18:27:30
Is anyone else still waiting for their order to move? Been a week since I got my tracking number and all I see on DHL is Shipment information received. I thought we only received tracking once the packages were processed by proxy/DHL?

yep same with mine. got my tracking on the 28th of april and no movement :( will keep waiting
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Wed, 06 May 2020, 18:33:58
Is anyone else still waiting for their order to move? Been a week since I got my tracking number and all I see on DHL is Shipment information received. I thought we only received tracking once the packages were processed by proxy/DHL?

I paid my shipping invoice on the 23rd and haven't gotten a tracking number yet >_<  You're a step ahead of me!  I assume it's covid stuff
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 06 May 2020, 18:35:56
Is anyone else still waiting for their order to move? Been a week since I got my tracking number and all I see on DHL is Shipment information received. I thought we only received tracking once the packages were processed by proxy/DHL?

yep same with mine. got my tracking on the 28th of april and no movement :( will keep waiting

If you've received the tracking number, that means your board has been shipped to Hongkong from Shenzhen, and been processed by the Hongkong DHL proxy.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jackie89 on Wed, 06 May 2020, 18:41:47
Is anyone else still waiting for their order to move? Been a week since I got my tracking number and all I see on DHL is Shipment information received. I thought we only received tracking once the packages were processed by proxy/DHL?

yep same with mine. got my tracking on the 28th of april and no movement :( will keep waiting

If you've received the tracking number, that means your board has been shipped to Hongkong from Shenzhen, and been processed by the Hongkong DHL proxy.


Is anyone else still waiting for their order to move? Been a week since I got my tracking number and all I see on DHL is Shipment information received. I thought we only received tracking once the packages were processed by proxy/DHL?

I paid my shipping invoice on the 23rd and haven't gotten a tracking number yet >_<  You're a step ahead of me!  I assume it's covid stuff

Is anyone else still waiting for their order to move? Been a week since I got my tracking number and all I see on DHL is Shipment information received. I thought we only received tracking once the packages were processed by proxy/DHL?

yep same with mine. got my tracking on the 28th of april and no movement :( will keep waiting

Ahh I guess that makes sense, my apologies for the misunderstanding. I guess we just have to wait for the Proxy to hand over the packages to DHL Hong Kong so it can make its way to us. I'm excited to build to be honest, all the boards so far look fantastic.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Instinct on Wed, 06 May 2020, 19:23:18
Just finished building mine, really happy with how it turned out!
(Attachment Link)

Is that the hotswap pcb that has backlight? Can you change the colors from blue to other colors? Is it RGB?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kamimamita on Wed, 06 May 2020, 19:40:25
Just finished building mine, really happy with how it turned out!
(Attachment Link)

Is that the hotswap pcb that has backlight? Can you change the colors from blue to other colors? Is it RGB?

No, I have the solder pcb. I soldered some rgb strips on the back and I also have a polycarbonate plate so some of the light from under spills through, making it look backlit.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: karmbit klacks on Wed, 06 May 2020, 21:22:20
Is anyone else still waiting for their order to move? Been a week since I got my tracking number and all I see on DHL is Shipment information received. I thought we only received tracking once the packages were processed by proxy/DHL?

yep same with mine. got my tracking on the 28th of april and no movement :( will keep waiting

If you've received the tracking number, that means your board has been shipped to Hongkong from Shenzhen, and been processed by the Hongkong DHL proxy.

Is there a way to have the invoice resent? PayPal and Gmail did not notify me of a new email when the invoice was sent on May 4th. The invoice was set to expire on May 4th and its just now that I got the email in my inbox. I emailed at runninghack@gmail.com but I don't know if that is active for support so I'll post it here since it's relevant to shipping.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Wed, 06 May 2020, 21:53:44
I have a rudimentary VIA support going, if someone wants to test.
Disclaimer: I don't have all layouts and it may or may not work. Use at your own risk.
Edit: forgot you need an updated hex. Here's mine that I used for my board. Again use at your own risk.
Edit2: Updated json to match hex.
why is this not in qmk???

theoretically this could have been done a long time ago

kbfirmware.com is more convenient for those who don't write codes or use Github. If you do write C and know how to compile it, kbfirmware.com can simply generate the QMK codes. The json files for kbfirmware.com is attached in the OP if you didn't see them.
If in qmk, it would be easily to port it to be compatible with VIA. That's the main objective.

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I see. I've never used VIA THB. I always compile the codes or use kbfirmware.com.
I still don't understand why people ask for merging the codes into QMK's main branch. Is it required by VIA? If someone knows how do port, he/she must know how to compile the codes. If he/she only want it to be convenient,  why care about QMK's main branch?

Nice to see someone else gave this a go too. This is my first board so I decided to give this a **** and it seemed pretty simple. I managed to get the hotswap board and all the layouts for the universal pcb onto VIA. I just don't really understand how backlighting actually works on QMK so I have no idea what's going on with that. The intensity seems to work for the hotswap board though, I have no idea if the hotswap board is RGB or not I'm assuming it is, or at least hoping. Either way I suppose this is going to be up to senter as to which product numbers he wants to choose, I've just given the hotswap as 0003 and the universal as 0004 following the leaf60, anyway these are the flashes for each PCB and the json files for via.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kabocha on Wed, 06 May 2020, 21:57:06
Will the ANSI plate files be shared? Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 06 May 2020, 22:59:53
I have a rudimentary VIA support going, if someone wants to test.
Disclaimer: I don't have all layouts and it may or may not work. Use at your own risk.
Edit: forgot you need an updated hex. Here's mine that I used for my board. Again use at your own risk.
Edit2: Updated json to match hex.
why is this not in qmk???

theoretically this could have been done a long time ago

kbfirmware.com is more convenient for those who don't write codes or use Github. If you do write C and know how to compile it, kbfirmware.com can simply generate the QMK codes. The json files for kbfirmware.com is attached in the OP if you didn't see them.
If in qmk, it would be easily to port it to be compatible with VIA. That's the main objective.

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I see. I've never used VIA THB. I always compile the codes or use kbfirmware.com.
I still don't understand why people ask for merging the codes into QMK's main branch. Is it required by VIA? If someone knows how do port, he/she must know how to compile the codes. If he/she only want it to be convenient,  why care about QMK's main branch?

Nice to see someone else gave this a go too. This is my first board so I decided to give this a **** and it seemed pretty simple. I managed to get the hotswap board and all the layouts for the universal pcb onto VIA. I just don't really understand how backlighting actually works on QMK so I have no idea what's going on with that. The intensity seems to work for the hotswap board though, I have no idea if the hotswap board is RGB or not I'm assuming it is, or at least hoping. Either way I suppose this is going to be up to senter as to which product numbers he wants to choose, I've just given the hotswap as 0003 and the universal as 0004 following the leaf60, anyway these are the flashes for each PCB and the json files for via.
Can you provide step by step instruction on how to do it?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Wed, 06 May 2020, 23:12:26
Can you provide step by step instruction on how to do it?
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Well you reset the board first, open up the QMK toolbox under local file you just browse for the correct via hex file for you pcb then flash it. After that you just open via, click the desgin tab ( you might have to enable it in the setting panel.) hit load then load the .json file for you pcb and that's about it really.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Topernicus on Thu, 07 May 2020, 00:10:02
Just trying to decide on my layout while I'm waiting for stabs to arrive, but I'm pretty sure this is it.

(https://i.imgur.com/NFWOAm2.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Thu, 07 May 2020, 00:15:33
Can you provide step by step instruction on how to do it?
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Well you reset the board first, open up the QMK toolbox under local file you just browse for the correct via hex file for you pcb then flash it. After that you just open via, click the desgin tab ( you might have to enable it in the setting panel.) hit load then load the .json file for you pcb and that's about it really.

Thanks! I will try that.

Is there a possiblity the pcb will brick or damage if wrong procedure?



Just trying to decide on my layout while I'm waiting for stabs to arrive, but I'm pretty sure this is it.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/NFWOAm2.jpg)


Lovely! What color is your plate?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Topernicus on Thu, 07 May 2020, 00:18:03
Just trying to decide on my layout while I'm waiting for stabs to arrive, but I'm pretty sure this is it.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/NFWOAm2.jpg)


Lovely! What color is your plate?

I went with space grey on the logo, plate, mid, and weight.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Thu, 07 May 2020, 00:45:55
Can you provide step by step instruction on how to do it?
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Well you reset the board first, open up the QMK toolbox under local file you just browse for the correct via hex file for you pcb then flash it. After that you just open via, click the desgin tab ( you might have to enable it in the setting panel.) hit load then load the .json file for you pcb and that's about it really.

I mean I doubt it, I think that's what the reset button is for. I mean this is the first time I've ever worked on a keyboard, but I didn't run into any troubles and I ended up flashing the board like 20+ times while trying to port stuff to via. I forgot to do a lot of things along the way so there was a lot of back tracking. You should be good with just flashing that hex onto your board and then loading the json up onto Via.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Thu, 07 May 2020, 01:26:17
Can you provide step by step instruction on how to do it?
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Well you reset the board first, open up the QMK toolbox under local file you just browse for the correct via hex file for you pcb then flash it. After that you just open via, click the desgin tab ( you might have to enable it in the setting panel.) hit load then load the .json file for you pcb and that's about it really.

I mean I doubt it, I think that's what the reset button is for. I mean this is the first time I've ever worked on a keyboard, but I didn't run into any troubles and I ended up flashing the board like 20+ times while trying to port stuff to via. I forgot to do a lot of things along the way so there was a lot of back tracking. You should be good with just flashing that hex onto your board and then loading the json up onto Via.

Thank you very much!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: AMONster on Thu, 07 May 2020, 04:51:31
Anyone selling a gb spot? White color.


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ninjinphu on Thu, 07 May 2020, 09:55:46
Anyone selling a gb spot? White color.


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At this stage in the group buy you're probably best off waiting for someone who's already received theirs or are putting it up on aftermarket.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: happycamper87 on Thu, 07 May 2020, 14:42:55
Finally done building mine. Desoldering the reset button was an easy fix as like the others the pcb stopped working when screwing the board down.
Built mine with a PC plate and alpacas. The gaskets on this thing are a huge improvement (at least for me) in the sound department over the leaf60. sounds very very thocky with the alu case. Now I'm curious what those all polycarb builds sound like.

Thanks Senter!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kurple on Thu, 07 May 2020, 14:44:42
Can you do a sound test, pleasseee? ^_^

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: happycamper87 on Thu, 07 May 2020, 14:58:17
Can you do a sound test, pleasseee? ^_^




I tried with my phone but its a far cry from how the thing sounds irl. Dont have my mic with me atm unfortunately. Will definitely post a video soon.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Thu, 07 May 2020, 15:01:35
hows the machining on your top plate kanji?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: happycamper87 on Thu, 07 May 2020, 15:07:07
hows the machining on your top plate kanji?

clean. i don't see any rough edges or burrs.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Thu, 07 May 2020, 18:14:35
Those who built all alu with linear switches, how's the sound and feel of the plate?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: BestShuckleNA on Thu, 07 May 2020, 18:16:45
Just finished building mine! Built with 3204 lubed tealios with 55g tx springs oil lubed, sounds and feels so good! Wasn't sure what to hope for with my first gasket build but this knocks it out of the park for sure :D(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200507/ba0912d9bbec825d3fac58717ffd9d4b.jpg)

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Thu, 07 May 2020, 18:26:26
PC with rgb

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Thu, 07 May 2020, 18:31:26
PC with rgb

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Aluplate? What switches? How's the feel and sound of the plate?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Thu, 07 May 2020, 18:42:16
PC with rgb

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Aluplate? What switches? How's the feel and sound of the plate?
Brass with lubed and filmed black inks. Feels and sounds good. I added the rubber between the switch and plate, so it def. helps!


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Thu, 07 May 2020, 18:47:11
PC with rgb

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Aluplate? What switches? How's the feel and sound of the plate?
Brass with lubed and filmed black inks. Feels and sounds good. I added the rubber between the switch and plate, so it def. helps!


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Plate not rigid? Gaskets helps to soften it?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Thu, 07 May 2020, 19:03:07
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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Thu, 07 May 2020, 19:04:22
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The gasket def helps a lot!


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MsCookz on Thu, 07 May 2020, 19:44:43
PC with rgb

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love your artisans, best board ive seen yet :D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Little4Real on Thu, 07 May 2020, 20:14:42
Looking to trade my PC plate (7U) and hotswap PCB for a standard PCB
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Thu, 07 May 2020, 20:51:45
PC with rgb

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what rgb strip did you happen to use?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Thu, 07 May 2020, 21:03:54
Damn the PC looks so good. Hope my white,teal & PC look as nice

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Thu, 07 May 2020, 21:54:32
PC with rgb

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what rgb strip did you happen to use?
It’s a ALITOVE 60 Pixels WS2812B from Amazon. Any ws2812 would work .


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Wongstongs on Fri, 08 May 2020, 11:32:50
Those who built all alu with linear switches, how's the sound and feel of the plate?

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Very thocky, almost like an HHKB
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MadsMe on Fri, 08 May 2020, 12:01:22
Has anyone had any luck with programming their key65 yet? When I head into QMK confiq the pcb isn't listed. I saw the .hex and .json files, but I am unsure what use these are without the keyboard being listed in the config. I've always just used VIA in the past but, it doesnt seem that VIA is able to recognize this PCB.
you can use the website linked (https://kbfirmware.com/) and upload the json file.  after you change the keymap and stuff you'll see and option to compile as a hex file.  The hex file you use in qmk to flash keyboard with.  Use it as a local file in the QMK toolbox instead of selecting your keyboard from the list.

Thanks for the help. Worked perfectly.

Did you have to have the PCB plugged in?
It says "invalid configuration" when I try to upload the json file. But I don't have the PCB yet so that might be why?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Fri, 08 May 2020, 12:17:10
Got an email from DHL that I have a package arriving next Thurs. I got my shipping invoice on April 29.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Fri, 08 May 2020, 12:25:32
anyone in USA get theirs yet? im still in the boat of people waiting for hong kong DHL ship
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Fri, 08 May 2020, 12:26:42
Got an email from DHL that I have a package arriving next Thurs. I got my shipping invoice on April 29.

lucky :P where are you located? I got invoice on April 23, tracking on 28th, and still stuck in HK. hopefully its not lost and just slow in transit
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Fri, 08 May 2020, 12:28:23
anyone in USA get theirs yet? im still in the boat of people waiting for hong kong DHL ship

yeah im still in the US (VA) and no progress. I wonder if they are waiting for more packages to load on a plane or maybe theres a queue since not many planes flying to US.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Fri, 08 May 2020, 12:30:57
Pretty sure there was a guy from the OC (California) a couple pages ago that got theirs.

On the other hand I have trouble getting packages delivered to sweden from the US..  packages in transit for over a month now.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Fri, 08 May 2020, 12:32:11
Package is out for delivery today!! Got my tracking number wednesday and it left hong kong yesterday  :eek: :eek: :eek:
in Canada though
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jackie89 on Fri, 08 May 2020, 12:37:23
Got an email from DHL that I have a package arriving next Thurs. I got my shipping invoice on April 29.

Oh nice - I'm still waiting for movement on my package.

Got an email from DHL that I have a package arriving next Thurs. I got my shipping invoice on April 29.

lucky :P where are you located? I got invoice on April 23, tracking on 28th, and still stuck in HK. hopefully its not lost and just slow in transit

Same, got my tracking on 30th and DHL in HK says

Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - Shipment information received

anyone in USA get theirs yet? im still in the boat of people waiting for hong kong DHL ship

in Canada but same.

Package is out for delivery today!! Got my tracking number wednesday and it left hong kong yesterday  :eek: :eek: :eek:
in Canada though

This is so strange, not sure in what order are the tracking numbers going out. I received mine a week ago today and no movement.

anyone in USA get theirs yet? im still in the boat of people waiting for hong kong DHL ship

yeah im still in the US (VA) and no progress. I wonder if they are waiting for more packages to load on a plane or maybe theres a queue since not many planes flying to US.

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Fri, 08 May 2020, 12:40:47
Got an email from DHL that I have a package arriving next Thurs. I got my shipping invoice on April 29.

lucky :P where are you located? I got invoice on April 23, tracking on 28th, and still stuck in HK. hopefully its not lost and just slow in transit

Sorry, I should have stated that. I'm in North America.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Psykick on Fri, 08 May 2020, 15:22:38
anyone in USA get theirs yet? im still in the boat of people waiting for hong kong DHL ship

yeah im still in the US (VA) and no progress. I wonder if they are waiting for more packages to load on a plane or maybe theres a queue since not many planes flying to US.

Just a random datapoint, but I am in VA and I received mine on Monday (5/4). Already built and assembled.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Fri, 08 May 2020, 15:34:02
anyone in USA get theirs yet? im still in the boat of people waiting for hong kong DHL ship

yeah im still in the US (VA) and no progress. I wonder if they are waiting for more packages to load on a plane or maybe theres a queue since not many planes flying to US.

Just a random datapoint, but I am in VA and I received mine on Monday (5/4). Already built and assembled.

Lucky :P when did you get tracking number?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Sbaak on Fri, 08 May 2020, 15:48:02
anyone in USA get theirs yet? im still in the boat of people waiting for hong kong DHL ship

yeah im still in the US (VA) and no progress. I wonder if they are waiting for more packages to load on a plane or maybe theres a queue since not many planes flying to US.

Just a random datapoint, but I am in VA and I received mine on Monday (5/4). Already built and assembled.

Lucky :P when did you get tracking number?

Got mine in MN May 5th
Shipping notice Apr 30

edit- tracking email was apr 30th
it landed/appeared in IL on sunday from HK, arrived mn early may 5th, made it on delivery truck that day, and here.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jackie89 on Fri, 08 May 2020, 16:02:39
anyone in USA get theirs yet? im still in the boat of people waiting for hong kong DHL ship

yeah im still in the US (VA) and no progress. I wonder if they are waiting for more packages to load on a plane or maybe theres a queue since not many planes flying to US.

ust a random datapoint, but I am in VA and I received mine on Monday (5/4). Already built and assembled.

Lucky :P when did you get tracking number?

Got mine in MN May 5th
Shipping notice Apr 30

Interesting, I got my shipping invoice on 16th, Tracking on 30th and still no movement.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Fri, 08 May 2020, 16:03:51
Would love to see photos of a completed build with the Kanji logo and a 7U spacebar? Also does this board come with foam for sound dampening?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SpaceCowboy on Fri, 08 May 2020, 17:08:30
Does anyone know if you can add RGB strips on hotswap boards? This is all pretty new to me, I wasn't sure if I saw any place on the PCB for those strips...
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Fri, 08 May 2020, 17:26:06
Does anyone know if you can add RGB strips on hotswap boards? This is all pretty new to me, I wasn't sure if I saw any place on the PCB for those strips...
Should have a VOG through hope you can solder rgb on the hot swap, Clarence might be close though.


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: edctog on Fri, 08 May 2020, 19:16:59
For those who are interested, here is a short typing test on a full PC build with lubed filmed Inks Black

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3yeln2fbgg0131i/20200508-180754.m4a?dl=0

Putting that silicone pad between the PCB and Plate is a must. I tried it with and without.

Anyway, I'm in New Mexico.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: stampeden on Fri, 08 May 2020, 19:38:13
Just finished the build, and I'm blown away!

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kenny20x2 on Fri, 08 May 2020, 20:09:37
any1 know how often senter checks emails on runninghack@gmail.com. Trying to change my shipping address but no reply yet
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: finalarcadia on Fri, 08 May 2020, 20:36:40
Received mine today, in FL USA. Happy to report the e-coating is amazing. My pictures don't do it justice. Also the top right Kanji logo is perfect  :thumb:

(https://i.imgur.com/B9d8acn.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/qZstK1B.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: johnny2304 on Fri, 08 May 2020, 21:04:38
In PA USA, pay my shipping invoice in May 5 and still waiting for tracking :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Fri, 08 May 2020, 21:07:26
any1 know how often senter checks emails on runninghack@gmail.com. Trying to change my shipping address but no reply yet

FWIW, I sent an email last week with a question about my order and got a reply within 24 hours.

Also unrelated to above,but I paid my tracking late 5/2 and got tracking from DHL today. Est delivery next thursday to IL.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Fri, 08 May 2020, 21:50:33
i paid for my shipping April 26th and still haven't gotten tracking yet.  Granted DHL had an issue with my address, but the wait is brutal :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Fri, 08 May 2020, 22:18:47
Received mine today, in FL USA. Happy to report the e-coating is amazing. My pictures don't do it justice. Also the top right Kanji logo is perfect  :thumb:

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That's a relief. Can't wait to get mine!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vincevelorn on Sat, 09 May 2020, 00:31:45
Love, love, love how it came out! Thank you so much for the run, Senter!

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Sat, 09 May 2020, 00:58:30
Love, love, love how it came out! Thank you so much for the run, Senter!

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Is your weight scuffed on the right or something?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vincevelorn on Sat, 09 May 2020, 01:07:14
Love, love, love how it came out! Thank you so much for the run, Senter!

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(Can't say I'm amazing at taking pictures :P )

Is your weight scuffed on the right or something?

Nope, that was just some fuzz, there are pretty much no imperfections that I can see externally. Or heck even internally, it's a super good finish.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Sat, 09 May 2020, 01:18:25
Love, love, love how it came out! Thank you so much for the run, Senter!

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I feel a little bad for not getting your colors.

Absolutely loving your colors.

My lack of imagination is pretty bad

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Sat, 09 May 2020, 01:50:47
I feel a little bad for not getting your colors.

Absolutely loving your colors.

My lack of imagination is pretty bad

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My man, what kind of post is this!?  You gotta believe in yourself more!  I believe in your imagination!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Sat, 09 May 2020, 02:09:51
I feel a little bad for not getting your colors.

Absolutely loving your colors.

My lack of imagination is pretty bad

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My man, what kind of post is this!?  You gotta believe in yourself more!  I believe in your imagination!
[/quote]Thanks mate

I pretty much went for the serika colors and got the mt3 serika for it.

I'll tag you once I build it

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Sat, 09 May 2020, 02:22:28
Anyone else get their board disconnected by pressing down too hard?
Using the PC plate atm and everytime i apply pressure to the centre my keyboard just disconnects
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sat, 09 May 2020, 02:35:14
Anyone else get their board disconnected by pressing down too hard?
Using the PC plate atm and everytime i apply pressure to the centre my keyboard just disconnects
Desolder the reset button

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: happycamper87 on Sat, 09 May 2020, 02:35:29
Anyone else get their board disconnected by pressing down too hard?
Using the PC plate atm and everytime i apply pressure to the centre my keyboard just disconnects

desolder the reset button underneath the pcb. its a known issue
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Sat, 09 May 2020, 03:29:41
Thanks for all the help about the reset button haha. Was said to clip the reset button but it still somehow kept on being pressed so I just removed it fully :)
Got the WKL PC top with the Kanji Logo. It's very subtle which is nice.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Zeldris23 on Sat, 09 May 2020, 09:39:29
still waiting for my shipping invoice 🙁
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: leexy on Sat, 09 May 2020, 09:44:47
Love, love, love how it came out! Thank you so much for the run, Senter!

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e-teal looking good
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sat, 09 May 2020, 11:30:21
still waiting for my shipping invoice 🙁

PM me your email address please.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jackie89 on Sat, 09 May 2020, 12:22:29
Finally got a notification, the package is with DHL and I should have it by Wednesday.

Those of you that got it, did you authorize no signature? How was your experience?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: finalarcadia on Sat, 09 May 2020, 12:34:24
Senter can you provide screw specs for bottom of case. I want to change from gold color.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Zeldris23 on Sat, 09 May 2020, 13:31:07
still waiting for my shipping invoice 🙁

PM me your email address please.

im sorry what i meant was i still havent received any notification from DHL, I already paid for the shipping invoice last May 4 :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Sat, 09 May 2020, 13:40:46
Senter can you provide screw specs for bottom of case. I want to change from gold color.

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M2.5*6.

M2.5*5 to M2.5*8 all should work.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kenny20x2 on Sat, 09 May 2020, 17:47:21
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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kohsta on Sat, 09 May 2020, 20:06:38
The final product is outstanding. The gaskets work a charm and even make brass feel like a softer alu plate while keeping the sound I love. Had an issue too with the Reset switch but after taking a pair of wirecutters just to trim it down by about 1mm problem solved! Senter thank you. Legend.

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Sat, 09 May 2020, 20:36:23
All of your builds look awesome, can't wait to get mine on Wednesday  :-*
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: johnny2304 on Sat, 09 May 2020, 23:15:55
anybody still waiting for tracking like me. In PA, USA.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Sun, 10 May 2020, 00:55:00
anybody still waiting for tracking like me. In PA, USA.

I'm on PA, no tracking yet.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Sun, 10 May 2020, 10:34:10
Felt like I should post a build, I'm still waiting on the keycaps but it looks great nonetheless. Super happy with this board, thanks Senter <3

To all my friends who are still waiting on theirs godspeed.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Sun, 10 May 2020, 10:43:18
Nice! That's actually really nice that the led lights up the logo blocker. At first I thought it looked a little weird that it was a gaping switch hole underneath but think it works out well.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sun, 10 May 2020, 10:45:24
Nice build.

Me here lying on bed, still waiting for tracking.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Sun, 10 May 2020, 12:02:57
Felt like I should post a build, I'm still waiting on the keycaps but it looks great nonetheless. Super happy with this board, thanks Senter <3

To all my friends who are still waiting on theirs godspeed.

Nice build. Are those Helios switches?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Sun, 10 May 2020, 12:17:03
I have two of these, and I'm going to get one Cerakote'd a different color. I'm curious how the top Key logo fits in. Is it pressed in with an adhesive?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Sun, 10 May 2020, 13:43:10
I have two of these, and I'm going to get one Cerakote'd a different color. I'm curious how the top Key logo fits in. Is it pressed in with an adhesive?
both are screwed in i'm pretty sure.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: edctog on Sun, 10 May 2020, 14:30:22
Since the silicone pad didn't cover the spacebar area, has anyone inserted foam or sorbothane there to get a more consistent sound? I ordered a sheet of sorbothane already but just wondering.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: johnny2304 on Sun, 10 May 2020, 14:47:27
Felt like I should post a build, I'm still waiting on the keycaps but it looks great nonetheless. Super happy with this board, thanks Senter <3

To all my friends who are still waiting on theirs godspeed.
nice build, what stab is it? look very fancy!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Sun, 10 May 2020, 23:40:04
PC top and bottom, green middle. Green key logos top and bottom (brass weight). Brass plate layered with a botanical themed decal for upcoming GMK botanical.
My first build with mill-max sockets, currently running mint holy pandas and zeal stabs. I intend to shift to c3 stabs and may do zykos or whatever the t1 variant is called.
Dampening: in addition to the gaskets, I installed some leftover rubber from the gasket sticker pack onto the bottom of the PCB, as well as added o-rings between the bottom case and metal middle case to reduce vibration through the screws. I ran it for a while without the foam before installing it. I can confirm that even on a PC board it makes a huge difference.
More and better pics later.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200511/fca11578f8b6cffb438dca30ff489f66.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200511/b4e0bb148824f5a202428cbc0403c2a9.jpg)

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Mon, 11 May 2020, 00:12:23
Anyone here got an extra plate they would like to sell? Looking for any of the metal plates with the universal layout.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Mon, 11 May 2020, 02:20:42
Invoiced: 5th May
Tracking: still to wait. :)

>EU
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Mon, 11 May 2020, 02:39:44
PC top and bottom, green middle. Green key logos top and bottom (brass weight). Brass plate layered with a botanical themed decal for upcoming GMK botanical.
My first build with mill-max sockets, currently running mint holy pandas and zeal stabs. I intend to shift to c3 stabs and may do zykos or whatever the t1 variant is called.
Dampening: in addition to the gaskets, I installed some leftover rubber from the gasket sticker pack onto the bottom of the PCB, as well as added o-rings between the bottom case and metal middle case to reduce vibration through the screws. I ran it for a while without the foam before installing it. I can confirm that even on a PC board it makes a huge difference.
More and better pics later.
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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Mon, 11 May 2020, 05:05:38
Felt like I should post a build, I'm still waiting on the keycaps but it looks great nonetheless. Super happy with this board, thanks Senter <3

To all my friends who are still waiting on theirs godspeed.
nice build, what stab is it? look very fancy!
They're stabs from zeal.
Nice! That's actually really nice that the led lights up the logo blocker. At first I thought it looked a little weird that it was a gaping switch hole underneath but think it works out well.
Yea it's super nice since the pcb has a led there for people without top blockers.
Felt like I should post a build, I'm still waiting on the keycaps but it looks great nonetheless. Super happy with this board, thanks Senter <3

To all my friends who are still waiting on theirs godspeed.

Nice build. Are those Helios switches?

Yea they are, great switches can recommend, I do want to try the new dragonfruits though when they do come out.

I have two of these, and I'm going to get one Cerakote'd a different color. I'm curious how the top Key logo fits in. Is it pressed in with an adhesive?
both are screwed in i'm pretty sure.

Yea, it's screwed it with a small screw.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Mon, 11 May 2020, 05:47:53
Laser cut stickers?

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If only! No, I applied a big vinyl decal to the plate and used a hobby knife to cut each hole out.  Not a perfect job, but certainly good enough - particularly since the switches cover any minor imperfections in the cuts. 

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Mon, 11 May 2020, 05:49:09
Have the ansi plate files been released?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: superpringles on Mon, 11 May 2020, 07:44:22
Extra plates did not come with extra gaskets? :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Mon, 11 May 2020, 07:49:34
Extra plates did not come with extra gaskets? :(
You shouldn’t need them, gaskets are placed on the keyboard not plates.


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: superpringles on Mon, 11 May 2020, 08:08:21
I......... put them on the plates. Why did I do that
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Mon, 11 May 2020, 08:18:41
I......... put them on the plates. Why did I do that
I think because someone did on zfrontier.

Yeah it should be on the case

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Mon, 11 May 2020, 09:16:47
Anyone who got their shipping invoice on May 5th, do you have your tracking information yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Mon, 11 May 2020, 09:23:48
Anyone who got their shipping invoice on May 5th, do you have your tracking information yet?
Paid invoice 6th May at 6am (+8). No tracking yet.

Im from PH.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vi0till on Mon, 11 May 2020, 09:24:07
Anyone who got their shipping invoice on May 5th, do you have your tracking information yet?
I received and paid mine on 6th. Still no tracking. Guess it will take some times to ship.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Mon, 11 May 2020, 09:42:31
Anyone who got their shipping invoice on May 5th, do you have your tracking information yet?

Invoice paid 5th May, no shipping info.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: chrainer on Mon, 11 May 2020, 10:06:24
guess it will take some more time - paid may 3rd and didn't get a tracking number either
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: orim23 on Mon, 11 May 2020, 11:11:00
guess it will take some more time - paid may 3rd and didn't get a tracking number either
I paid 29th, just got tracking yesterday. so...it will happen. give it some more days.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Mon, 11 May 2020, 11:12:34
guess it will take some more time - paid may 3rd and didn't get a tracking number either
I paid 29th, just got tracking yesterday. so...it will happen. give it some more days.

Thanks!!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: edctog on Mon, 11 May 2020, 12:05:29
PC top and bottom, green middle. Green key logos top and bottom (brass weight). Brass plate layered with a botanical themed decal for upcoming GMK botanical.
My first build with mill-max sockets, currently running mint holy pandas and zeal stabs. I intend to shift to c3 stabs and may do zykos or whatever the t1 variant is called.
Dampening: in addition to the gaskets, I installed some leftover rubber from the gasket sticker pack onto the bottom of the PCB, as well as added o-rings between the bottom case and metal middle case to reduce vibration through the screws. I ran it for a while without the foam before installing it. I can confirm that even on a PC board it makes a huge difference.
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I believe so since you don't actually run a full PC board. The metal middle and plate will transmit more vibration. However, the huge improvement is from the airborne vibration, instead of structureborne vibration. By stuffing that empty space, you certainly will change the acoustics regardless.  However, I do think the o-rings will have minimal effect. Definitely they will have close to no effect if you have a full PC board.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Mon, 11 May 2020, 12:15:14
...  However, I do think the o-rings will have minimal effect. Definitely they will have close to no effect if you have a full PC board.

I agree it's probably minimal at best, but it also serves to keep the PCB lifted off of the bottom case. My thinking is that if a hard press on the board can trigger the SMD reset, there is not great clearance. That's also why I added gasket rubber to the PCB.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Dr0p on Mon, 11 May 2020, 13:36:58
WTB 7u hotswap pcb.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jeel7004 on Mon, 11 May 2020, 14:16:05
I was sent a hotswap PCB by accident, anyone in the US have an extra universal they want to trade?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: hcoopos on Mon, 11 May 2020, 14:42:06
Quote
Shipment held - Available upon receipt of payment

That's not a good thing to see on the tracking
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Mon, 11 May 2020, 15:06:31
Big shout out to Senter for putting this together. He's awesome and deserves a huge thanks!

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ele7087 on Mon, 11 May 2020, 15:47:56
WTB universal pcb + any plate
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: limepie on Mon, 11 May 2020, 17:40:17
Any possible way to order an extra plate soon? Im a big dumb and ordered the wrong plate for the hotswap pcb, so I don't have a space bar rip.
Also WTB 7U Plate in Yellow/White or Non-Hotswap PCB
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fc038263 on Mon, 11 May 2020, 18:35:46
Interested in the anodizing grey. Pm me if you're letting one go.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: cornballin on Mon, 11 May 2020, 20:38:21
Finally built mine and here is my take.

I used a brass plate with a full PC case and hotswap PCB. With the middle gasket it was pretty hard to get the switches seated correctly without bending pins. This probably would have been easier with a solder board but I insisted on hotswap. Additionally, the plate seems like it was slightly bowed, so the switches right side of the board refused to stay completely seated while assembling. The thick rubber gasket between the plate and PCB made this more difficult. However once the entire keyboard was reassembled and screwed together, this problem straightened itself out. One problem remains, however, and that is that the large rubber gasket between the plate and PCB seems to be cut slightly inaccurately. Specifically, where the Enter key is, the gasket overlaps the wire on the stabilizer. This creates a lot of friction and enter is very slow on both the up and down stroke. I think I can fix this issue by disassembling the board and cutting part of the rubber away in that spot. This is a major annoyance now, but I suspect it is fixable.

The only other problem I had was after assembly, discovering that my PCB (both of them, actually) have reset buttons and they contact the bottom of the case hard. I ended up cutting it off and everything works fine now.

The board feels very solid and looks pretty good, and all of the keys besides the enter key feel and sound great. My other minor issue is that the board is winkeyless but the plate has a cutout for another switch under the blocker. On aluminum cases this won't matter, but on a PC case it kind of looks like ****.

This board will be really really good once I fix that annoying issue with the gasket and the enter stabs. I did kind of expect a little bit better QC for the price though. And the hole under the blocker on WKL does feel a little lazy to me.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jackie89 on Mon, 11 May 2020, 20:43:30
Looks like there was a mix up in my order. My case top right logo was supposed to be e-teal but it's just white and the bottom weight was supposed to be teal with white logo. I actually don't mind the bottom weight - I think it looks great but I would definitely want the top right teal logo. :(

EDIT: Ignore the post, I am a dumbass.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Tenturo on Mon, 11 May 2020, 20:53:13
Has anyone built a WKL with polycarbonate plate? Everything on the bottom row for the polycarbonate is not lining up at all. Spacebar (7u doesn’t line up), Control and alt don’t either for 1.5u. My brass plate is fine, but the polycarbonate is certainly not. So when the switches are on the plate and you try to put the WKL top casing it won’t fit the right keys. I’ve posted an image below to demonstrate what I mean.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Mon, 11 May 2020, 21:01:13
Has anyone built a WKL with polycarbonate plate? Everything on the bottom row for the polycarbonate is not lining up at all. Spacebar (7u doesn’t line up), Control and alt don’t either for 1.5u. My brass plate is fine, but the polycarbonate is certainly not. So when the switches are on the plate and you try to put the WKL top casing it won’t fit the right keys. I’ve posted an image below to demonstrate what I mean.

Any chance flipping or rotating it helps at all?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Mon, 11 May 2020, 21:23:06
Has anyone built a WKL with polycarbonate plate? Everything on the bottom row for the polycarbonate is not lining up at all. Spacebar (7u doesn’t line up), Control and alt don’t either for 1.5u. My brass plate is fine, but the polycarbonate is certainly not. So when the switches are on the plate and you try to put the WKL top casing it won’t fit the right keys. I’ve posted an image below to demonstrate what I mean.

I could be missing something very obvious but is that not the split spacebar plate which is labeled for '6.25u spacebar + split spacebar version plate' in the OP?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Tenturo on Mon, 11 May 2020, 21:27:13
Has anyone built a WKL with polycarbonate plate? Everything on the bottom row for the polycarbonate is not lining up at all. Spacebar (7u doesn’t line up), Control and alt don’t either for 1.5u. My brass plate is fine, but the polycarbonate is certainly not. So when the switches are on the plate and you try to put the WKL top casing it won’t fit the right keys. I’ve posted an image below to demonstrate what I mean.

I could be missing something very obvious but is that not the split spacebar plate which is labeled for '6.25u spacebar + split spacebar version plate' in the OP?

Yep looks like this is the case actually. I just looked at my order, and the wrong plate was chosen foe the spare. Dang!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kurple on Mon, 11 May 2020, 21:31:35
Looks like there was a mix up in my order. My case top right logo was supposed to be e-teal but it's just white and the bottom weight was supposed to be teal with white logo. I actually don't mind the bottom weight - I think it looks great but I would definitely want the top right teal logo. :(
Colors were only for the key logos

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: finalarcadia on Mon, 11 May 2020, 21:34:38
I'll take that e-white with teal board off your hands if u don't like it  o.o
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Mon, 11 May 2020, 21:37:07
Looks like there was a mix up in my order. My case top right logo was supposed to be e-teal but it's just white and the bottom weight was supposed to be teal with white logo. I actually don't mind the bottom weight - I think it looks great but I would definitely want the top right teal logo. :(

I could be wrong, but it was my understanding that the kanji logo was basically just an engraving, and so you couldn't choose a special color for the logo.  Only the key logo was available to select different colors for.  I went for the key logo though so I didn't pay close attention to the kanji logo options.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jackie89 on Mon, 11 May 2020, 21:42:57
Looks like there was a mix up in my order. My case top right logo was supposed to be e-teal but it's just white and the bottom weight was supposed to be teal with white logo. I actually don't mind the bottom weight - I think it looks great but I would definitely want the top right teal logo. :(

I could be wrong, but it was my understanding that the kanji logo was basically just an engraving, and so you couldn't choose a special color for the logo.  Only the key logo was available to select different colors for.  I went for the key logo though so I didn't pay close attention to the kanji logo options.

Looks like there was a mix up in my order. My case top right logo was supposed to be e-teal but it's just white and the bottom weight was supposed to be teal with white logo. I actually don't mind the bottom weight - I think it looks great but I would definitely want the top right teal logo. :(
Colors were only for the key logos

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Looks like that was case, oh well. My dumbself didn't read, clearly! I still like it haha. Wonder what's the pantone on the teal, maybe I can try to paint it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Mon, 11 May 2020, 22:16:43
anyone have a link to a build video yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: H3NT4I on Mon, 11 May 2020, 23:03:41
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At first I thought all the gaskets and dampening was a bit much but I love the build in the end. Looking and feeling great!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Mon, 11 May 2020, 23:49:58
anyone have a link to a build video yet?

It's really straightforward.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Mon, 11 May 2020, 23:54:47
I'd just like to know the consensus from those who have already received their key65, for those with non-PC cases, is it necessary to snip the reset button?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Tue, 12 May 2020, 00:02:18
I'd just like to know the consensus from those who have already received their key65, for those with non-PC cases, is it necessary to snip the reset button?

No, mine was pre-clipped on both PCBs I ordered (hotswap). Just finished putting mine together tonight. It's really easy. Get the plate and dampener lined up, put it on the PCB, throw in the switches, then put the adhesive gaskets where they go in the case (check the first post). I'm pretty sure you only put the long gaskets/dampeners on the bottom part of the case, the shorter gasket/dampeners go on the mid and top housings. Put all that back together and you're good to go.

If you have the hotswap PCB, make sure you are pushing the switches in on a flat surface. I didn't do that for my ESC key and half the hotswap socket came off. I had to solder it back on, wasn't a big deal and it's a common issue with non-mill max hotswap.

Flashing QMK is also easy. One thing I'd point out is that you just need to hold FN + Esc for 1-2 seconds while the keyboard is plugged in to enter bootloader mode. I was confused and thought this was like a DZ60 where you have to hold down the buttons while plugging the USB in. Fox Labs' PCB is much easier, no need to test your dexterity like the DZ60.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Tue, 12 May 2020, 00:32:27
I'd just like to know the consensus from those who have already received their key65, for those with non-PC cases, is it necessary to snip the reset button?

No, mine was pre-clipped on both PCBs I ordered (hotswap). Just finished putting mine together tonight. It's really easy. Get the plate and dampener lined up, put it on the PCB, throw in the switches, then put the adhesive gaskets where they go in the case (check the first post). Put all that back together and you're good to go.

If you have the hotswap PCB, make sure you are pushing the switches in on a flat surface. I didn't do that for my ESC key and half the hotswap socket came off. I had to solder it back on, wasn't a big deal and it's a common issue with non-mill max hotswap.

Flashing QMK is also easy. One thing I'd point out is that you just need to hold FN + Esc for 1-2 seconds while the keyboard is plugged in to enter bootloader mode. I was confused and thought this was like a DZ60 where you have to hold down the buttons while plugging the USB in. Fox Labs' PCB is much easier, no need to test your dexterity like the DZ60.

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This board looks stellar. Is that a black case with blue or teal accents?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Tenturo on Tue, 12 May 2020, 00:53:41
Anyone else not have enough gaskets for the bottom of the middle case, and the top of the bottom case? I have 8 long strips and there is 12 total long strip/gasket spots.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Tue, 12 May 2020, 01:00:27
I'd just like to know the consensus from those who have already received their key65, for those with non-PC cases, is it necessary to snip the reset button?

No, mine was pre-clipped on both PCBs I ordered (hotswap). Just finished putting mine together tonight. It's really easy. Get the plate and dampener lined up, put it on the PCB, throw in the switches, then put the adhesive gaskets where they go in the case (check the first post). Put all that back together and you're good to go.

If you have the hotswap PCB, make sure you are pushing the switches in on a flat surface. I didn't do that for my ESC key and half the hotswap socket came off. I had to solder it back on, wasn't a big deal and it's a common issue with non-mill max hotswap.

Flashing QMK is also easy. One thing I'd point out is that you just need to hold FN + Esc for 1-2 seconds while the keyboard is plugged in to enter bootloader mode. I was confused and thought this was like a DZ60 where you have to hold down the buttons while plugging the USB in. Fox Labs' PCB is much easier, no need to test your dexterity like the DZ60.

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This board looks stellar. Is that a black case with blue or teal accents?

Black with teal accents. E-teal came out really nicely.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: bananafritters on Tue, 12 May 2020, 03:54:50
Paid on 5th May, receive tracking today. Item scheduled to deliver this Friday.

Thanks senter.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Tue, 12 May 2020, 03:59:18
Paid on 5th May, receive tracking today. Item scheduled to deliver this Friday.

Thanks senter.  :thumb:
Wow! Hoping to receive tracking today to have an idea of delivery date.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Tue, 12 May 2020, 04:10:34
Anyone else not have enough gaskets for the bottom of the middle case, and the top of the bottom case? I have 8 long strips and there is 12 total long strip/gasket spots.

You should only be using 6 I believe?  Mine only came with 8 as well, I put them onto the bottom case (if you put it on the mid case it sticks to the usb cutout on the pcb)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: happycamper87 on Tue, 12 May 2020, 04:11:11
Anyone else not have enough gaskets for the bottom of the middle case, and the top of the bottom case? I have 8 long strips and there is 12 total long strip/gasket spots.

You only need 6 of the long gaskets. They go either on top of the bottom piece or underneath the middle piece. (not on both otherwise you wouldn't be able to screw down the board)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: chrainer on Tue, 12 May 2020, 06:50:04
Paid on 5th May, receive tracking today. Item scheduled to deliver this Friday.

Thanks senter.  :thumb:

country?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: bananafritters on Tue, 12 May 2020, 07:06:50
Paid on 5th May, receive tracking today. Item scheduled to deliver this Friday.

Thanks senter.  :thumb:

country?

Switzerland
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Zylkan on Tue, 12 May 2020, 07:07:40
Sorry is this still on? Until when?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: eriatilox on Tue, 12 May 2020, 07:18:43
My order is #339. I ordered brass for top right logo and pink for bottom logo but got brass for both. Anything I can do about this?
edit: never mind. I think I prefer this now lol.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Tue, 12 May 2020, 08:12:07
Got invoiced for shipping May 1, still no tracking :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Se1nZ on Tue, 12 May 2020, 09:24:31
im using split backspace but the right switch cant register, any idea?
in the original json file looks like there is only 1 wiring (pic attached). maybe thats why its not detected?
thanks
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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Tue, 12 May 2020, 09:57:32
anyone have a link to a build video yet?

It's really straightforward.

seems like plenty of people are confused in here. just asked for a link. not whether you thought it was important or not.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Tenturo on Tue, 12 May 2020, 10:05:06
Anyone else not have enough gaskets for the bottom of the middle case, and the top of the bottom case? I have 8 long strips and there is 12 total long strip/gasket spots.

You only need 6 of the long gaskets. They go either on top of the bottom piece or underneath the middle piece. (not on both otherwise you wouldn't be able to screw down the board)

I realized this last night after building. I ended up putting six on the bottom, and it worked out great. Although I didn't use the dampener between the plate and pcb as I didn't want to make the typing experience really stiff (already had to use brass instead of polycarbonate). Have to say I'm not too impressed with the sound quality right now. Anyone feel right now this doesn't really sound like a gasket board?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Tue, 12 May 2020, 10:06:15
im using split backspace but the right switch cant register, any idea?
in the original json file looks like there is only 1 wiring (pic attached). maybe thats why its not detected?
thanks
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I have the same issue where the right switch in a split backspace isn't registering.  I'm very interested in figuring it out, although super busy this week.

Edit: I wonder if the default keymap has it working? I can't recall if that registered during my PCB jump testing.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Tue, 12 May 2020, 10:46:29
anyone have a link to a build video yet?

It's really straightforward.

seems like plenty of people are confused in here. just asked for a link. not whether you thought it was important or not.
No need to freak out, boss. I was only trying to reassure you that it's easier than it would seem from reading this thread. I, and a few other people, have shared our experience building it and tried to help. Good luck.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dumpling420 on Tue, 12 May 2020, 13:25:00
Got invoiced for shipping May 1, still no tracking :(

Same here, paid May 1 and haven't received anything.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: mg53 on Tue, 12 May 2020, 14:19:06
Just got mine in the mail and it unfortunately does not match what I ordered.  :(

Ordered: PC clear top, white middle, PC clear bottom, white plate, white weight with kanji logo (invoice #658)
Received: White top, teal middle, PC clear bottom, brass plate, white weight with key logo.

Going to reach out and see what we can get done.

Edit: emailed Senter and got a quick response. Shipping mix up.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: PotatoTM on Tue, 12 May 2020, 15:08:50
I just received mine and also have a small mixup in my order (got Clear Brass weight instead of E-Teal Brass weight, but everything else is correct), e-mailed enter as well! Aside from that, the board seems solid and I see no blatant problems with it, will test PCB / build it later in the month :) Thanks for the GB.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: happycamper87 on Tue, 12 May 2020, 16:14:37
Anyone else not have enough gaskets for the bottom of the middle case, and the top of the bottom case? I have 8 long strips and there is 12 total long strip/gasket spots.

You only need 6 of the long gaskets. They go either on top of the bottom piece or underneath the middle piece. (not on both otherwise you wouldn't be able to screw down the board)

I realized this last night after building. I ended up putting six on the bottom, and it worked out great. Although I didn't use the dampener between the plate and pcb as I didn't want to make the typing experience really stiff (already had to use brass instead of polycarbonate). Have to say I'm not too impressed with the sound quality right now. Anyone feel right now this doesn't really sound like a gasket board?

I used the dampener along with a PC plate and I'm very happy with the way mine sounds with lubed alpacas. what kind  of sound were you looking for?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Tenturo on Tue, 12 May 2020, 17:09:56
Anyone else not have enough gaskets for the bottom of the middle case, and the top of the bottom case? I have 8 long strips and there is 12 total long strip/gasket spots.

You only need 6 of the long gaskets. They go either on top of the bottom piece or underneath the middle piece. (not on both otherwise you wouldn't be able to screw down the board)

I realized this last night after building. I ended up putting six on the bottom, and it worked out great. Although I didn't use the dampener between the plate and pcb as I didn't want to make the typing experience really stiff (already had to use brass instead of polycarbonate). Have to say I'm not too impressed with the sound quality right now. Anyone feel right now this doesn't really sound like a gasket board?

I used the dampener along with a PC plate and I'm very happy with the way mine sounds with lubed alpacas. what kind  of sound were you looking for?

So I guess the sound I was looking for (or maybe expecting I should say was close to Polaris, and that Tealio build sound test posted above), but then again I did not use the dampener. How stiff would you say it is with the dampener and PC plate? I do like flex in my boards, and I'm wondering If I add that will it make it too stiff.

On a side note, did Senter release the plate files for non ISO, or is there any plans to do so? I have the wrong PC plate for configuration (choosing mistake) and seeing if I will be able to get a custom plate cut in the event I cannot get a 7u plate from Senter.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Tue, 12 May 2020, 17:22:20
im using split backspace but the right switch cant register, any idea?
in the original json file looks like there is only 1 wiring (pic attached). maybe thats why its not detected?
thanks
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That's pretty strange, split space registers for me.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: happycamper87 on Tue, 12 May 2020, 17:32:55

So I guess the sound I was looking for (or maybe expecting I should say was close to Polaris, and that Tealio build sound test posted above), but then again I did not use the dampener. How stiff would you say it is with the dampener and PC plate? I do like flex in my boards, and I'm wondering If I add that will it make it too stiff.

On a side note, did Senter release the plate files for non ISO, or is there any plans to do so? I have the wrong PC plate for configuration (choosing mistake) and seeing if I will be able to get a custom plate cut in the event I cannot get a 7u plate from Senter.

I'm no expert but I don't think that the dampener adds much stiffness to the board. In my case flex is minimal although the bottom out is very soft and thocky.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Tue, 12 May 2020, 17:37:30
Anyone else not have enough gaskets for the bottom of the middle case, and the top of the bottom case? I have 8 long strips and there is 12 total long strip/gasket spots.
There should only be six my guy, all between the bottom and middle layers.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Tue, 12 May 2020, 17:38:13
im using split backspace but the right switch cant register, any idea?
in the original json file looks like there is only 1 wiring (pic attached). maybe thats why its not detected?
thanks
Show Image


That's pretty strange, split space registers for me.
Split space works fine for me, but the issue here is specifically around split backspace.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 12 May 2020, 19:46:40
im using split backspace but the right switch cant register, any idea?
in the original json file looks like there is only 1 wiring (pic attached). maybe thats why its not detected?
thanks
Show Image


im using split backspace but the right switch cant register, any idea?
in the original json file looks like there is only 1 wiring (pic attached). maybe thats why its not detected?
thanks
Show Image

I have the same issue where the right switch in a split backspace isn't registering.  I'm very interested in figuring it out, although super busy this week.

Edit: I wonder if the default keymap has it working? I can't recall if that registered during my PCB jump testing.

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I don't know if it's a manufacturing defect or design flaw. Some PCBs turn out to be good. Some, however, don't have a bridge between the front side and back side of the PCB on that split BS key. I've consulted the PCB supplier and they admit it's an issue. Here's (https://imgur.com/a/rdBQgW3) the solution they provide. You need to apply large amount of solder on that BS key so that the broken bridge between the front and back of the PCB can be joined. It's not a good solution tbh. I've ordered some more PCBs from them. If you plan on building a split BS layout, or if you've already done that but can't make it work, PM me and I'll send you a new one.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Tue, 12 May 2020, 19:57:39



I don't know if it's a manufacturing defect or design flaw. Some PCBs turn out to be good. Some, however, don't have a bridge between the front side and back side of the PCB on that split BS key. I've consulted the PCB supplier and they admit it's an issue. Here's (https://imgur.com/a/rdBQgW3) the solution they provide. You need to apply large amount of solder on that BS key so that the broken bridge between the front and back of the PCB can be joined. It's not a good solution tbh. I've ordered some more PCBs from them. If you plan on building a split BS layout, or if you've already done that but can't make it work, PM me and I'll send you a new one.

Thanks for the info Senter! It seems like an easy enough (although crude) fix. I built my PCB with mill-max sockets so I could alternate between a few layouts, with split BS being my preferred. My hope is that I can make that bridge without impacting the ability to mount a stab there.  I'll give it a run later this week or this weekend and send an update.


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Se1nZ on Tue, 12 May 2020, 21:15:57
im using split backspace but the right switch cant register, any idea?
in the original json file looks like there is only 1 wiring (pic attached). maybe thats why its not detected?
thanks
Show Image


im using split backspace but the right switch cant register, any idea?
in the original json file looks like there is only 1 wiring (pic attached). maybe thats why its not detected?
thanks
Show Image

I have the same issue where the right switch in a split backspace isn't registering.  I'm very interested in figuring it out, although super busy this week.

Edit: I wonder if the default keymap has it working? I can't recall if that registered during my PCB jump testing.

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I don't know if it's a manufacturing defect or design flaw. Some PCBs turn out to be good. Some, however, don't have a bridge between the front side and back side of the PCB on that split BS key. I've consulted the PCB supplier and they admit it's an issue. Here's (https://imgur.com/a/rdBQgW3) the solution they provide. You need to apply large amount of solder on that BS key so that the broken bridge between the front and back of the PCB can be joined. It's not a good solution tbh. I've ordered some more PCBs from them. If you plan on building a split BS layout, or if you've already done that but can't make it work, PM me and I'll send you a new one.

Hi Senter, thanks for the update, i will try to apply large amount of solder first and see if its working or not. i will post the update later.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: nu_types on Tue, 12 May 2020, 22:20:08
Senter, you mentioned that the plate file would be available after the GB ended, right? I'd love to have an Alps plate made :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vincevelorn on Tue, 12 May 2020, 22:44:31
Senter, you mentioned that the plate file would be available after the GB ended, right? I'd love to have an Alps plate made :)

There is a .dxf on the first post on the thread for the plates that could be used as a start.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: nu_types on Tue, 12 May 2020, 22:57:31
Senter, you mentioned that the plate file would be available after the GB ended, right? I'd love to have an Alps plate made :)

There is a .dxf on the first post on the thread for the plates that could be used as a start.

Oh hey! Good looking out. I totally didn't notice that.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Tue, 12 May 2020, 23:32:02
(https://i.ibb.co/G7XFKy0/IMG-5110.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XX9Vh1b)

(https://i.ibb.co/TB6y49W/IMG-5112.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hRb0B3Y)

(https://i.ibb.co/1zHwZNm/IMG-5111.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fDmPMWx)

(https://i.ibb.co/yVC5dKY/IMG-5115.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YbS8PJy)

Got mine today =)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Wed, 13 May 2020, 01:58:19
Just received tracking. Paid invoice on April 30th.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Applet on Wed, 13 May 2020, 05:45:48
Show Image
Show Image
Show Image
(https://i.ibb.co/G7XFKy0/IMG-5110.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XX9Vh1b)


(https://i.ibb.co/TB6y49W/IMG-5112.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hRb0B3Y)


(https://i.ibb.co/1zHwZNm/IMG-5111.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fDmPMWx)


(https://i.ibb.co/yVC5dKY/IMG-5115.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YbS8PJy)

Got mine today =)
Damn! That is a nice keeb you got there  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: edctog on Wed, 13 May 2020, 08:17:28
Anyone else not have enough gaskets for the bottom of the middle case, and the top of the bottom case? I have 8 long strips and there is 12 total long strip/gasket spots.

You only need 6 of the long gaskets. They go either on top of the bottom piece or underneath the middle piece. (not on both otherwise you wouldn't be able to screw down the board)

I realized this last night after building. I ended up putting six on the bottom, and it worked out great. Although I didn't use the dampener between the plate and pcb as I didn't want to make the typing experience really stiff (already had to use brass instead of polycarbonate). Have to say I'm not too impressed with the sound quality right now. Anyone feel right now this doesn't really sound like a gasket board?

I used the dampener along with a PC plate and I'm very happy with the way mine sounds with lubed alpacas. what kind  of sound were you looking for?

So I guess the sound I was looking for (or maybe expecting I should say was close to Polaris, and that Tealio build sound test posted above), but then again I did not use the dampener. How stiff would you say it is with the dampener and PC plate? I do like flex in my boards, and I'm wondering If I add that will it make it too stiff.

On a side note, did Senter release the plate files for non ISO, or is there any plans to do so? I have the wrong PC plate for configuration (choosing mistake) and seeing if I will be able to get a custom plate cut in the event I cannot get a 7u plate from Senter.

The rubber dampener piece is much softer than both polycarbonate and brass. If those can flex, adding the rubber won’t change that much. If you don’t clip all of your switches in properly, you can have rattled plate. I think that’s what you have. I have tried both configs.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Wed, 13 May 2020, 09:23:34
Damn! That is a nice keeb you got there  :eek:

Thanks =)  I am loving it!  This is a first for a lot of things for me:

- first 60ish percent
- first carbon fiber plate
- first with flipped spacebar (not by choice - the stab inserts on the plate force me to use a different kind of wire stab)

I am a fan, though.  senter and fox labs have done it again!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: johnny2304 on Wed, 13 May 2020, 09:30:58
please surprise me with a tracking number today and scheduled to delivery tomorrow  :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Wed, 13 May 2020, 09:33:18
Damn! That is a nice keeb you got there  :eek:

Thanks =)  I am loving it!  This is a first for a lot of things for me:

- first 60ish percent
- first carbon fiber plate
- first with flipped spacebar (not by choice - the stab inserts on the plate force me to use a different kind of wire stab)

I am a fan, though.  senter and fox labs have done it again!

That build looks awesome! Congrats! What stabilizers and switches were you using? The stabilizers don't look like screw in ones.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 13 May 2020, 09:39:18
Show Image
Show Image
Show Image
(https://i.ibb.co/G7XFKy0/IMG-5110.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XX9Vh1b)


(https://i.ibb.co/TB6y49W/IMG-5112.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hRb0B3Y)


(https://i.ibb.co/1zHwZNm/IMG-5111.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fDmPMWx)


(https://i.ibb.co/yVC5dKY/IMG-5115.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YbS8PJy)

Got mine today =)
Damn! That is a nice keeb you got there  :eek:
The best build Ive seen so far.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 13 May 2020, 11:51:24
Just got tracking. Expected delivery date: tomorrow

lol
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Wed, 13 May 2020, 12:01:59
Just got tracking. Expected delivery date: tomorrow

lol

It took just a day to arrive in my country. Crazy fast.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 13 May 2020, 12:02:37
Paid shipping invoice on May 5th, just got my tracking.

Still just says "shipping info received"
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Wed, 13 May 2020, 12:43:17
Paid shipping invoice on May 5th, just got my tracking.

Still just says "shipping info received"

Mine has been like this since April 28th. Kinda worried that it's lost now.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 13 May 2020, 12:47:57
Paid shipping invoice on May 5th, just got my tracking.

Still just says "shipping info received"

Mine has been like this since April 28th. Kinda worried that it's lost now.

Oh no! hope it comes out ok!

Mine lists that DHL got the shipping info on the 11th so hopefully it moves soon!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 13 May 2020, 13:01:39
Shipping is very slow right now. I've got things in the mail still that I ordered mid march. My novelkeys order also didn't get an update for almost a month until it finally did a week ago. It's currently laying somewhere in customs. Tough times for parcels.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Wed, 13 May 2020, 13:03:14
Yeah that’s what I’m hoping is the scenario. I don’t have a problem with a long shipping time due to covid but wish i could get an update saying where it is.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 13 May 2020, 13:06:55
So apparently I was looking at the wrong tracking number in my excitement lmao. Mine also says shipping info received, on may 8th.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Wed, 13 May 2020, 13:43:27
That build looks awesome! Congrats! What stabilizers and switches were you using? The stabilizers don't look like screw-in ones.

Thanks!  The switches are known as "striped ambers," a rare linear alps switch!  So the stabilizers are just standard clip-in alps stabs.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DabbyBear on Wed, 13 May 2020, 13:50:02
Shipping info (tracking) received after invoice on the 5th of May - still appears to be in Hong Kong but this is a move in the right direction. To help gives others an idea - I'm in North east US invoice #0756. Will post pictures once it comes in! Realized I had also ordered a second PCB (one is hot swap one isn't) without an extra plate. How easy is it to get a plate cut from a third party? I would imagine it will be hard to get a plate from the secondary market.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Wed, 13 May 2020, 15:51:30
Shipping info (tracking) received after invoice on the 5th of May - still appears to be in Hong Kong but this is a move in the right direction. To help gives others an idea - I'm in North east US invoice #0756. Will post pictures once it comes in! Realized I had also ordered a second PCB (one is hot swap one isn't) without an extra plate. How easy is it to get a plate cut from a third party? I would imagine it will be hard to get a plate from the secondary market.

yup! I also got my shipping info today!
also paid the invoice on 5th May.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 13 May 2020, 17:26:34
Update: this mornings tracking was uploaded to PayPal by senter. 

I just got a text from DHL saying my package was picked up, but it has a different tracking number than the one that went to PayPalthis morning.

Expected delivery: monday the 18th.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Wed, 13 May 2020, 17:41:00
Update: this mornings tracking was uploaded to PayPal by senter. 

I just got a text from DHL saying my package was picked up, but it has a different tracking number than the one that went to PayPalthis morning.

Expected delivery: monday the 18th.

I hope I’m in that same boat as well.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MsCookz on Wed, 13 May 2020, 17:43:20
Update: this mornings tracking was uploaded to PayPal by senter. 

I just got a text from DHL saying my package was picked up, but it has a different tracking number than the one that went to PayPalthis morning.

Expected delivery: monday the 18th.

I hope I’m in that same boat as well.

Same as well, can't wait to get it!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kenny20x2 on Wed, 13 May 2020, 17:43:35
Anyone know how I can contact senter? I still haven't received my shipping invoice and I got no reply from runninghack@gmail.com
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: CodeMayhem on Wed, 13 May 2020, 18:18:55
Anyone know how I can contact senter? I still haven't received my shipping invoice and I got no reply from runninghack@gmail.com

just pm him he replied to me in a day.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: David93 on Wed, 13 May 2020, 19:29:09
How do we keep the bottom brass e-clear coating clean? I am getting little marks on it while using it on a deskmat.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 13 May 2020, 19:37:24
How do we keep the bottom brass e-clear coating clean? I am getting little marks on it while using it on a deskmat.

Handle it with the included gloves.  Use microfiber to remove small fingerprint marks.

For more serious tarnishing, dissolve 1tsp salt in 1/2 cup white vinegar.  Then add enough flour to thicken it to a paste.  Brush it onto your brass, let it sit 10 minutes,  rinse it off thoroughly, dry it and buff it clean with microfiber cloth.

I did this with my matrix 1.2 og weight and it came great!

[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Wed, 13 May 2020, 19:38:47
How do we keep the bottom brass e-clear coating clean? I am getting little marks on it while using it on a deskmat.

Handle it with the included gloves.  Use microfiber to remove small fingerprint marks.

For more serious tarnishing, dissolve 1tsp salt in 1/2 cup white vinegar.  Then add enough flour to thicken it to a paste.  Brush it onto your brass, let it sit 10 minutes,  rinse it off thoroughly, dry it and buff it clean with microfiber cloth.

I did this with my matrix 1.2 og weight and it came great!


Also just realized yours was eclear - the polish is for raw brass and may not work with eclear coating.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Yahhms on Wed, 13 May 2020, 21:09:45
I'm having issues programming mine. I can't seem to re program caps lock, lctrl, win, or lalt. Other keys seem to re program just fine. Any ideas?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: joonia on Wed, 13 May 2020, 21:59:13
WTB universal pcb
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: happycamper87 on Wed, 13 May 2020, 23:07:18
Did some infilling on the Kanji logo on mine just in case anyone was curious to see.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Thu, 14 May 2020, 00:22:21
Did some infilling on the Kanji logo on mine just in case anyone was curious to see.

Looks great. I'll be doing mine as well once I get my hands on it.

Edit: Got my delivery status! I paid on May 6th.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jackie89 on Thu, 14 May 2020, 00:31:43
Did some infilling on the Kanji logo on mine just in case anyone was curious to see.

I was thinking of doing this - how did you go about this? Also does anyone know what the Pantone colour is of the e-teal?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Thu, 14 May 2020, 00:38:16
Did some infilling on the Kanji logo on mine just in case anyone was curious to see.

I was thinking of doing this - how did you go about this? Also does anyone know what the Pantone colour is of the e-teal?
I based my Satisfaction infill on this https://topclack.com/textclack/2019/7/30/infilling-by-jae-a-text-guide-to-infilling-logos-and-designs-on-keyboard-parts(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200514/b40564e9de9f009da55a4ca3cc380f41.jpg)

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: deathjester on Thu, 14 May 2020, 02:48:57
DHL just called me to say that there is £17 of import duty and taxes before I can have it delivered to me (I'm not exactly surprised at this as HMRC inevitable) and I expected that I would need to pay something. Just glad it's not royal mail; as they charged me an additional £8 for the privilege of getting my money to HMRC when I ordered switches from Novelkeys.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MK47 on Thu, 14 May 2020, 04:45:15
DHL just called me to say that there is £17 of import duty and taxes before I can have it delivered to me (I'm not exactly surprised at this as HMRC inevitable) and I expected that I would need to pay something. Just glad it's not royal mail; as they charged me an additional £8 for the privilege of getting my money to HMRC when I ordered switches from Novelkeys.

FYI £11 Advanced Payments (handing fee), £6 tax.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Thu, 14 May 2020, 06:10:39
Love it. Thanks Senter!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: CodeMayhem on Thu, 14 May 2020, 08:52:25
Just got mine yesterday. Exactly as I hoped for.
[attachimg=1]
[attachimg=2]
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Thu, 14 May 2020, 09:31:03
Just got mine yesterday. Exactly as I hoped for.
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)
Damn that's nice, wish I had seen that rose color when I built mine.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Solotov on Thu, 14 May 2020, 12:24:11
Just got mine yesterday. Exactly as I hoped for.
(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

Nice color combo :eek:. Now you guys make me regret that I ordered mine in plain color lol
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: victorpre on Thu, 14 May 2020, 12:27:12
Just unboxed mine with e-yellow bottom. Here's a color comparison with MT3 Serika for those who are interested:

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/424773336577605632/710538264045551888/2020_0514_19033600.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Wobafet on Thu, 14 May 2020, 12:42:41
Does anyone who has a full pc board with pc plate or anyone using a pc plate have a hollow sounding right arrow key or is it just me?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Thu, 14 May 2020, 13:49:28
oof i cannot describe how nice the blue ano is[attachimg=1][attachimg=2]
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: victorpre on Thu, 14 May 2020, 14:03:40
In case anybody is interested, I've adapted the ISO plate file to an ANSI - Split spacebar one

Disclaimer:
NOT TESTED - DON'T COME CRYING TO ME IF DOESN'T WORK


Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kurple on Thu, 14 May 2020, 14:08:02
oof i cannot describe how nice the blue ano is (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
Did you modify the Kanji blocker logo at all? This looks a lot nicer than the past PC kanji logos

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Thu, 14 May 2020, 14:10:35
oof i cannot describe how nice the blue ano is (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
Did you modify the Kanji blocker logo at all? This looks a lot nicer than the past PC kanji logos

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no i did not. I think the lighting is the key it look sgreat from an angle and not so great from above. Im going to try to put a small cutout behind it so it can be lighted a bit more and see how that works. (right now the PCB is whats behind it and white doesn't highlight the pc engraving so well i think).
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Gumberculese on Thu, 14 May 2020, 14:39:00
Has anyone done a build stream for a Key65 yet?  Would love to watch one.  Just waiting for my tangerine switches from TKC to come in before I build mine.  Pretty stoked.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: edctog on Thu, 14 May 2020, 14:44:01
Does anyone who has a full pc board with pc plate or anyone using a pc plate have a hollow sounding right arrow key or is it just me?

Are you using the rubber pad? I mean pretty much all keys will sound different from each other. My left arrow does sound a little more hollow than other adjacent keys but it's not really much more. I can tell the progression from left, to down to right.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Thu, 14 May 2020, 15:23:49
Has anyone done a build stream for a Key65 yet?  Would love to watch one.  Just waiting for my tangerine switches from TKC to come in before I build mine.  Pretty stoked.

HugoKeys built one last night.  It was quite an adventure trying to get the split backspace working.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/620299522
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Thu, 14 May 2020, 16:26:39
I am trying to get a plate cut for ISO, is the thickness on the PC plate the same as metal?  1.5mm?  I probably cant go with 2mm because of the clearances but will going smaller with 1mm work?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Thu, 14 May 2020, 18:39:02
Got my tracking yesterday. Shipment info received on 11th.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200514/aaa32ab0dfcb6dc6312685a8088b93e3.jpg)

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: johnny2304 on Thu, 14 May 2020, 19:02:58
Does anybody have the situation like me? I got my tracking number from Paypal's updated shipping detail yesterday. It's status still Tracking information received. Shipment not yet picked up by DHL. But today, I received an SMS message from DHL that a package will be delivery on Monday May 18...
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DabbyBear on Thu, 14 May 2020, 19:17:24
Same for me! Monday the 18th and I got the text pretty recently.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Soraie on Thu, 14 May 2020, 19:31:04
Does anybody have the situation like me? I got my tracking number from Paypal's updated shipping detail yesterday. It's status still Tracking information received. Shipment not yet picked up by DHL. But today, I received an SMS message from DHL that a package will be delivery on Monday May 18...

In the same boat... Paypal tracking number is different from DHL text....
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cresc3nt on Thu, 14 May 2020, 19:35:18
Got tracking information on the 13th of May, and received a text later asking me about shipment details on how to deliver package like if it was okay to leave at door without any signatures. Says estimated delivery date was May 18th from the text, but when just manually entering the tracking number on a desktop (or anything not from the phone link) it just says Shipment Information Received. When I clicked on the phone link again (sent this to my desktop to open), it gives me a lot more details for today saying they received the package, but it's currently on hold in HK with still an estimated shipping date of May 18th. Hopefully that's true for the May 18th part.

Edit: My tracking number through paypal is different from the one that was sent through text but the final destination is the same, so I'm just hoping for the best.
DHL shipping is quite confusing tbh.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Thu, 14 May 2020, 20:06:18
my package is officially lost then lol. I havent gotten any text notifications and has been sitting at "Shipment information received" in HK since april 28th. RIP :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 14 May 2020, 20:41:12
shipping out of china (and associated territories like HK and macau) is a huge mess right now, and is being limited

it's definitely concerning but not cause for total alarm
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dumpling420 on Thu, 14 May 2020, 21:10:42
Did some infilling on the Kanji logo on mine just in case anyone was curious to see.

Wow that looks incredible. Really making me regret not getting alum with kanji logo.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vi0till on Thu, 14 May 2020, 23:07:04
Got my tracking yesterday. Shipment info received on 11th.
Show Image
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Got tracking yesterday, and arrived today. I am just a lucky boy.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: VashtaNerada on Fri, 15 May 2020, 00:26:27
I got an extra pcb for intentions to make one with millmax and the other to be a completely solder pcb.  I got the millmax one done and was testing the extra pcb.  Is the extra pcb a defective unit?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Morgan3Wheeler on Fri, 15 May 2020, 01:33:00
I got my 4 kits today.

They have nice colorway and good quality.

(https://i.imgur.com/9oC64CH.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Surefoot on Fri, 15 May 2020, 05:16:24
I am trying to get a plate cut for ISO, is the thickness on the PC plate the same as metal?  1.5mm?  I probably cant go with 2mm because of the clearances but will going smaller with 1mm work?
1.5mm is the standard for Cherry MX compatible switches. If you go thicker it will interfere with the retention clips. Smaller and you'll have to compensate with thicker gaskets i suppose...
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ConfuseBill on Fri, 15 May 2020, 05:26:06
I got my 4 kits today.

They have nice colorway and good quality.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/9oC64CH.jpg)


Wow, they look real nice.
The blue and Green Anodize looks solid.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ConfuseBill on Fri, 15 May 2020, 06:18:10
Got mine.

Invoice paid on May 6th.
Got tracking info from Paypal on the late 13th.
Arrived in my hand on the 15th morning. Somewhere in South East Asia.

Top, Middle and Weight E-Yellow finish is uniform in Color and sandblast finish.
Good Box design, Nice packaging and addition for the glove.
Great presentation.
Overall Happy with the product.
 
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: happycamper87 on Fri, 15 May 2020, 08:58:05
Got mine.

Invoice paid on May 6th.
Got tracking info from Paypal on the late 13th.
Arrived in my hand on the 15th morning. Somewhere in South East Asia.

Top, Middle and Weight E-Yellow finish is uniform in Color and sandblast finish.
Good Box design, Nice packaging and addition for the glove.
Great presentation.
Overall Happy with the product.
 

NGL this looks effin awesome.

Also, did the infill on the bottom logo as well. needs some smoothing out but overall happy with the result
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vi0till on Fri, 15 May 2020, 09:33:03
Got mine.

Invoice paid on May 6th.
Got tracking info from Paypal on the late 13th.
Arrived in my hand on the 15th morning. Somewhere in South East Asia.

Top, Middle and Weight E-Yellow finish is uniform in Color and sandblast finish.
Good Box design, Nice packaging and addition for the glove.
Great presentation.
Overall Happy with the product.
Wonder if the reset button have to be removed? I have hotswap pcb as well, and the reset button is still is not removed.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ConfuseBill on Fri, 15 May 2020, 09:47:59
The Hotswap still has the Reset switch. However, the button seems to be snipped and flushed.
I'll will assemble later, and see the result. If it is still pushed against the bottom and causing problem, will desolder it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ConfuseBill on Fri, 15 May 2020, 09:50:01
Got mine.

Invoice paid on May 6th.
Got tracking info from Paypal on the late 13th.
Arrived in my hand on the 15th morning. Somewhere in South East Asia.

Top, Middle and Weight E-Yellow finish is uniform in Color and sandblast finish.
Good Box design, Nice packaging and addition for the glove.
Great presentation.
Overall Happy with the product.
 

NGL this looks effin awesome.

Also, did the infill on the bottom logo as well. needs some smoothing out but overall happy with the result

Nice job on the infill, it looks neat.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Quasimodo on Fri, 15 May 2020, 09:57:50
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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Fri, 15 May 2020, 10:11:28
Has anyone had any issues keeping switches in the hotswap socket that have been using clipped switches?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Fri, 15 May 2020, 13:35:49
Mine is currently sitting on hold in HK. 

I called DHL, and they said everything is fine, it's currently waiting for room on a plane to be shipped over to the US. 

Mine is also still scheduled for Monday 5/18 delivery.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dwarflemur on Fri, 15 May 2020, 14:39:46
Mine is currently sitting on hold in HK. 

I called DHL, and they said everything is fine, it's currently waiting for room on a plane to be shipped over to the US. 

Mine is also still scheduled for Monday 5/18 delivery.

jeez, you called DHL over that? international logistics are ****ed right now, I would just expect it to come when it comes. However, once it clears US customs it will probably be pretty quick. Mine is in the same place, tracking has just said Hong Kong all week with Monday delivery.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vi0till on Fri, 15 May 2020, 14:47:13
Has anyone had any issues keeping switches in the hotswap socket that have been using clipped switches?
Build with clipped T1s, have no issue. I am not using the thick dampener layer tho.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Fri, 15 May 2020, 15:02:42
Mine is currently sitting on hold in HK. 

I called DHL, and they said everything is fine, it's currently waiting for room on a plane to be shipped over to the US. 

Mine is also still scheduled for Monday 5/18 delivery.

jeez, you called DHL over that? international logistics are ****ed right now, I would just expect it to come when it comes. However, once it clears US customs it will probably be pretty quick. Mine is in the same place, tracking has just said Hong Kong all week with Monday delivery.

Well, yes I called DHL.  Googling it, there are a few reasons it might have been held and some require action on my part.  Gotta call to make sure!  Not sure why that's so shocking.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: xenosen on Fri, 15 May 2020, 15:38:51
Just finished building my Key65 and wanted to share my findings with using split backspace. My PCB also had the issue with the pads on the front and back sides not connecting. I was able to fix this using a mill-max socket on the pad. With the use of the dampening pad, you can't even tell that one side of switch is in a mill-max socket since the dampening pad is so thick.

Hope this helps anyone experiencing the split backspace issue. (Please ignore the poor choice of keycaps. This is temporary until Camping R2 ships...)

[attach=1][attach=2][attach=3][attach=4]
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: johnny2304 on Fri, 15 May 2020, 15:49:34
Mine is currently sitting on hold in HK. 

I called DHL, and they said everything is fine, it's currently waiting for room on a plane to be shipped over to the US. 

Mine is also still scheduled for Monday 5/18 delivery.

same boat to Philly my friend!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Fri, 15 May 2020, 15:51:32
Has anyone had any issues keeping switches in the hotswap socket that have been using clipped switches?
Build with clipped T1s, have no issue. I am not using the thick dampener layer tho.

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That is good to know. I was planning on using the dampener if possible but I will just wait and see.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Yahhms on Fri, 15 May 2020, 21:16:53
For some reason, even with this as the keymap, my caps, ctrl, win, and alt keys stay default. Other keys change just fine. Anyone have any ideas?
[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kabocha on Sat, 16 May 2020, 00:48:01
Acrylic infill

(https://i.imgur.com/vrAQ7aN.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Sat, 16 May 2020, 07:35:50
Just got mine and didn't expect the finish to be so glossy. Guess I'll just try to find a way around it
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: bananafritters on Sat, 16 May 2020, 09:25:28
Just a tip for those who intend to use the rubber foam, cut the area near the usb-c. Without cutting it, the area will be too tight to fit the switches.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Sat, 16 May 2020, 10:16:10
Thanks for the tip. Will do a test fit first as well to see if I like it better with foam or without. Also, mine just landed in Germany a couple of hours ago. I expect to receive it some time next week.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: finalarcadia on Sat, 16 May 2020, 10:56:14
Not sure why people mention the area around USB switch, I had to cut near 'enter' stab instead

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Sat, 16 May 2020, 11:13:38
Thanks for the tip. Will do a test fit first as well to see if I like it better with foam or without. Also, mine just landed in Germany a couple of hours ago. I expect to receive it some time next week.

It isn't actually foam. It's more like rubber. Mine turned out fine so I didn't really need to cut anything out.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DabbyBear on Sat, 16 May 2020, 11:18:41
Thanks for the tip. Will do a test fit first as well to see if I like it better with foam or without. Also, mine just landed in Germany a couple of hours ago. I expect to receive it some time next week.

It isn't actually foam. It's more like rubber. Mine turned out fine so I didn't really need to cut anything out.

I thought we had guidance from Senter about assembly in the original post or something. Trying to assemble this blind with maybe cutouts here on the foam, maybe cutouts there just makes me rather uncomfortable. For a board that took cost $400 and took six months to receive, we should have assembly instructions set-in-stone. Just going off the notifications I have received in the past two weeks about people's builds, I'm still not totally sure what's "correct" and what's not in terms of the order of gasket, plate, and case...

In other news, I saw you said you received your kit. Any pics - I want to see what you mean by the glossyness.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Sat, 16 May 2020, 11:41:25
I had to trim the rubber around where the enter key goes because it was encroaching where the wire is, but besides that it fit just fine.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: nicx on Sat, 16 May 2020, 11:46:07
Yeah, I am definitely regretting backing out of this one. Was worried about the logo etched into the PC but they look awesome. GAH~!~!!$#!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kohsta on Sat, 16 May 2020, 11:48:24
Anyone have a good step by step for flashing with QMK? Thanks :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Sat, 16 May 2020, 11:51:33
Thanks for the tip. Will do a test fit first as well to see if I like it better with foam or without. Also, mine just landed in Germany a couple of hours ago. I expect to receive it some time next week.

It isn't actually foam. It's more like rubber. Mine turned out fine so I didn't really need to cut anything out.

I thought we had guidance from Senter about assembly in the original post or something. Trying to assemble this blind with maybe cutouts here on the foam, maybe cutouts there just makes me rather uncomfortable. For a board that took cost $400 and took six months to receive, we should have assembly instructions set-in-stone. Just going off the notifications I have received in the past two weeks about people's builds, I'm still not totally sure what's "correct" and what's not in terms of the order of gasket, plate, and case...

In other news, I saw you said you received your kit. Any pics - I want to see what you mean by the glossyness.

Yeah I was a tiny bit annoyed at the lack of the build guide. Would definitely be more reassuring to have a guide on where to put what and how to flash your PCB all in one place, especially since I'm coming off my Polaris.

As you can see in the picture, the red isn't exactly as matte as the black, but it's not serious enough to make me regret buying it.

Edit: For flashing on QMK, go to the site that senter linked in the post and download the JSON file and load it up to kbdfirmware. After you finish mapping, compile it into a HEX file and download it. Once done, boot up QMK firmware, connect your PCB and reset it. Once QMK has detected your PCB, manually select the HEX file that you compiled previously and then flash it. That should do the trick.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 16 May 2020, 11:56:11
Thanks for the tip. Will do a test fit first as well to see if I like it better with foam or without. Also, mine just landed in Germany a couple of hours ago. I expect to receive it some time next week.

It isn't actually foam. It's more like rubber. Mine turned out fine so I didn't really need to cut anything out.

I thought we had guidance from Senter about assembly in the original post or something. Trying to assemble this blind with maybe cutouts here on the foam, maybe cutouts there just makes me rather uncomfortable. For a board that took cost $400 and took six months to receive, we should have assembly instructions set-in-stone. Just going off the notifications I have received in the past two weeks about people's builds, I'm still not totally sure what's "correct" and what's not in terms of the order of gasket, plate, and case...

In other news, I saw you said you received your kit. Any pics - I want to see what you mean by the glossyness.

Yeah I was a tiny bit annoyed at the lack of the build guide. Would definitely be more reassuring to have a guide on where to put what and how to flash your PCB all in one place, especially since I'm coming off my Polaris.

As you can see in the picture, the red isn't exactly as matte as the black, but it's not serious enough to make me regret buying it.

Edit: For flashing on QMK, go to the site that senter linked in the post and download the JSON file and load it up to kbdfirmware. After you finish mapping, compile it into a HEX file and download it. Once done, boot up QMK firmware, connect your PCB and reset it. Once QMK has detected your PCB, manually select the HEX file that you compiled previously and then flash it. That should do the trick.

...where are your stabs?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Sat, 16 May 2020, 12:07:30
Thanks for the tip. Will do a test fit first as well to see if I like it better with foam or without. Also, mine just landed in Germany a couple of hours ago. I expect to receive it some time next week.

It isn't actually foam. It's more like rubber. Mine turned out fine so I didn't really need to cut anything out.

I thought we had guidance from Senter about assembly in the original post or something. Trying to assemble this blind with maybe cutouts here on the foam, maybe cutouts there just makes me rather uncomfortable. For a board that took cost $400 and took six months to receive, we should have assembly instructions set-in-stone. Just going off the notifications I have received in the past two weeks about people's builds, I'm still not totally sure what's "correct" and what's not in terms of the order of gasket, plate, and case...

In other news, I saw you said you received your kit. Any pics - I want to see what you mean by the glossyness.

Yeah I was a tiny bit annoyed at the lack of the build guide. Would definitely be more reassuring to have a guide on where to put what and how to flash your PCB all in one place, especially since I'm coming off my Polaris.

As you can see in the picture, the red isn't exactly as matte as the black, but it's not serious enough to make me regret buying it.

Edit: For flashing on QMK, go to the site that senter linked in the post and download the JSON file and load it up to kbdfirmware. After you finish mapping, compile it into a HEX file and download it. Once done, boot up QMK firmware, connect your PCB and reset it. Once QMK has detected your PCB, manually select the HEX file that you compiled previously and then flash it. That should do the trick.

...where are your stabs?

Not here yet. I don't have my keycaps either. I just put in my switches to test out the PCB.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DabbyBear on Sat, 16 May 2020, 12:10:23
Thanks for the tip. Will do a test fit first as well to see if I like it better with foam or without. Also, mine just landed in Germany a couple of hours ago. I expect to receive it some time next week.

It isn't actually foam. It's more like rubber. Mine turned out fine so I didn't really need to cut anything out.

I thought we had guidance from Senter about assembly in the original post or something. Trying to assemble this blind with maybe cutouts here on the foam, maybe cutouts there just makes me rather uncomfortable. For a board that took cost $400 and took six months to receive, we should have assembly instructions set-in-stone. Just going off the notifications I have received in the past two weeks about people's builds, I'm still not totally sure what's "correct" and what's not in terms of the order of gasket, plate, and case...

In other news, I saw you said you received your kit. Any pics - I want to see what you mean by the glossyness.

Yeah I was a tiny bit annoyed at the lack of the build guide. Would definitely be more reassuring to have a guide on where to put what and how to flash your PCB all in one place, especially since I'm coming off my Polaris.

As you can see in the picture, the red isn't exactly as matte as the black, but it's not serious enough to make me regret buying it.

Edit: For flashing on QMK, go to the site that senter linked in the post and download the JSON file and load it up to kbdfirmware. After you finish mapping, compile it into a HEX file and download it. Once done, boot up QMK firmware, connect your PCB and reset it. Once QMK has detected your PCB, manually select the HEX file that you compiled previously and then flash it. That should do the trick.

You're totally right, it does look somewhat glossy compared to the black - but it appears you're still happy with it, so that's what matters  :thumb:. Thanks for the additional information on the set-up! Maybe once everyone has recieved their kit, Senter will release a build guide or something all in one place.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: limepie on Sat, 16 May 2020, 21:58:18
In case anybody is interested, I've adapted the ISO plate file to an ANSI - Split spacebar one

Disclaimer:
NOT TESTED - DON'T COME CRYING TO ME IF DOESN'T WORK


Is it possible you can make an ANSI 7u space bar file? I got the wrong plate in my order so i'm just sitting here with a beautiful paper weight till I can get a new plate or pcb.   
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: AMONster on Sun, 17 May 2020, 00:49:02
Has anyone not received any tracking info yet? Or is it just me?


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MxBlue on Sun, 17 May 2020, 05:52:15
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: audax989 on Sun, 17 May 2020, 05:57:31
Has anyone not received any tracking info yet? Or is it just me?


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 I haven’t received mine either. Just waiting to hear back from senter
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sun, 17 May 2020, 06:07:27
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141
Good to see lots are contributing to make this VIA compatible.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MK47 on Sun, 17 May 2020, 06:19:20
In case anybody is interested, I've adapted the ISO plate file to an ANSI - Split spacebar one

Disclaimer:
NOT TESTED - DON'T COME CRYING TO ME IF DOESN'T WORK


Is it possible you can make an ANSI 7u space bar file? I got the wrong plate in my order so i'm just sitting here with a beautiful paper weight till I can get a new plate or pcb.   

Senter is going to release the plate files soon and I recommend that you wait. But if you are really desperate, I have adapted the 7u ISO plate file to ANSI. IT IS NOT TESTED. I will not take responsibility if you end up with another piece of paperweight.

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sun, 17 May 2020, 06:23:29
In case anybody is interested, I've adapted the ISO plate file to an ANSI - Split spacebar one

Disclaimer:
NOT TESTED - DON'T COME CRYING TO ME IF DOESN'T WORK


Is it possible you can make an ANSI 7u space bar file? I got the wrong plate in my order so i'm just sitting here with a beautiful paper weight till I can get a new plate or pcb.   

Senter is going to release the plate files soon and I recommend that you wait. But if you are really desperate, I have adapted the 7u ISO plate file to ANSI. IT IS NOT TESTED. I will not take responsibility if you end up with another piece of paperweight.
He can simply print it then test fit on pcb

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sun, 17 May 2020, 06:23:39
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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kabocha on Sun, 17 May 2020, 16:10:16
senter just updated his website.

7u MX ANSI:
https://fox-lab.github.io/assets/files/Key_65_MX_7u.dxf

6.25u MX ANSI:
https://fox-lab.github.io/assets/files/Key_65_MX_6.25u.dxf

https://fox-lab.github.io/gbs/Key-65.html
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Sun, 17 May 2020, 17:38:49
senter just updated his website.

7u MX ANSI:
https://fox-lab.github.io/assets/files/Key_65_MX_7u.dxf

6.25u MX ANSI:
https://fox-lab.github.io/assets/files/Key_65_MX_6.25u.dxf

https://fox-lab.github.io/gbs/Key-65.html
what are these files?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sun, 17 May 2020, 17:46:28
senter just updated his website.

7u MX ANSI:
https://fox-lab.github.io/assets/files/Key_65_MX_7u.dxf

6.25u MX ANSI:
https://fox-lab.github.io/assets/files/Key_65_MX_6.25u.dxf

https://fox-lab.github.io/gbs/Key-65.html
what are these files?
Plate

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: _senya on Sun, 17 May 2020, 19:16:51
There are some 3M paddings included. One st is little ones - 16 of them are needed for gaskets (8 leaves, 2 sides each) - those are the short ones. But there is also a set of 8 long ones. What are those for?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Sun, 17 May 2020, 19:42:56
For some reason, even with this as the keymap, my caps, ctrl, win, and alt keys stay default. Other keys change just fine. Anyone have any ideas?
(Attachment Link)
Don't know if anyone has responded to you, but you may have to clear eeprom through QMK Toolbox.
The latest version 0.0.18 should have the eeprom clear fixed, so use that version.
After clearing flash your keymap again and see if it takes.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kabocha on Sun, 17 May 2020, 20:35:11
There are some 3M paddings included. One st is little ones - 16 of them are needed for gaskets (8 leaves, 2 sides each) - those are the short ones. But there is also a set of 8 long ones. What are those for?

Its for the middle / bottom case
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Sun, 17 May 2020, 20:53:47
There are some 3M paddings included. One st is little ones - 16 of them are needed for gaskets (8 leaves, 2 sides each) - those are the short ones. But there is also a set of 8 long ones. What are those for?

Its for the middle / bottom case

is it best to install all gaskets? or just the small ones? just the large ones?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kabocha on Sun, 17 May 2020, 21:44:01
Not sure what the typing experience would be like, but I would just go for it since they were designed as intended. See the OP for where the gaskets are to be installed.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Sun, 17 May 2020, 22:01:28
If anyone who got the POM Red or Yellow is willing to share I'd love to see how they turned out

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Sun, 17 May 2020, 22:15:59
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141

I did via PR a while back for both hotswap and universal, tested both. Seems to be working fine just waiting for a merge I guess. Though didn't PR QMK.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: _senya on Sun, 17 May 2020, 22:24:20
Thank you! Result:

[attach=1]

Aqua Zilents 62, GMK Handarbeit
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MxBlue on Sun, 17 May 2020, 23:23:07
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141

I did via PR a while back for both hotswap and universal, tested both. Seems to be working fine just waiting for a merge I guess. Though didn't PR QMK.

Ah so you did. I'm happy to close mine and leave yours to be merged, though you'll want to link it to my QMK PR for completeness (or do your own). Leave a comment on my VIA PR with what you'd think is better, and I can update the productIds accordingly if needed.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Sbaak on Sun, 17 May 2020, 23:28:35
Nice and boring grey.

Mill max sockets. Trying out 67g Zilents. Assembling/lubing pandas. Cutting a reset switch. Figuring out why qmk wouldn't recognize it. whew, i'm done.
buuuuuuut it sounds great, feels great, and I am happy with it.

(https://i.imgur.com/y7RPQXB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/BZP9LLi.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/RmaR0yq.jpg)

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Mon, 18 May 2020, 00:49:28
Ah so you did. I'm happy to close mine and leave yours to be merged, though you'll want to link it to my QMK PR for completeness (or do your own). Leave a comment on my VIA PR with what you'd think is better, and I can update the productIds accordingly if needed.

I don't mind too much, though I'd probably prefer keeping mine open since I've tested both and I'm assuming your qmk pr are just the files that senter didn't merge himself. I did link your QMK PR on the via one though. :D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MxBlue on Mon, 18 May 2020, 01:24:46
Ah so you did. I'm happy to close mine and leave yours to be merged, though you'll want to link it to my QMK PR for completeness (or do your own). Leave a comment on my VIA PR with what you'd think is better, and I can update the productIds accordingly if needed.

I don't mind too much, though I'd probably prefer keeping mine open since I've tested both and I'm assuming your qmk pr are just the files that senter didn't merge himself. I did link your QMK PR on the via one though. :D

Cool, closed the VIA PR. The QMK one was converted from the kbfirmware json and has some manual TLC, esp on the universal PCB.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Mon, 18 May 2020, 07:41:08
Cool, closed the VIA PR. The QMK one was converted from the kbfirmware json and has some manual TLC, esp on the universal PCB.
Ah that's great to hear.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Mon, 18 May 2020, 07:43:27
Mine just arrived and I have to say this is one of the nicest kits I've gotten so far! No issues on the kanji weight, no issues on the PC plate machining, no issues with anything really.

I know senter and his crew wanted people to get some cool colours but this PC just looks too good to pass.

EDIT: If there is anyone else in Germany still waiting on theirs, I paid 39€ custom fees.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/605220936882323462/711920497369284638/IMG_20200518_141321.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Mon, 18 May 2020, 09:24:42
Mine has been "on hold" 3 times so far.  Was supposed to arrive today.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Mon, 18 May 2020, 09:26:49
Mine has been "on hold" 3 times so far.  Was supposed to arrive today.
Mine hasn't moved from hongkong since May 11th :(

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: merkz on Mon, 18 May 2020, 09:37:27
Mine has been "on hold" 3 times so far.  Was supposed to arrive today.
Mine hasn't moved from hongkong since May 11th :(

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk

Well ****, just saw mine was on hold too :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DabbyBear on Mon, 18 May 2020, 10:46:55
Mine has said on hold since last Thursday, but I've had some light hope that it actually is coming in today the DHL tracking states. Here comes the disappointment... :p
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: karmbit klacks on Mon, 18 May 2020, 12:53:54
Nice and boring grey.

Mill max sockets. Trying out 67g Zilents. Assembling/lubing pandas. Cutting a reset switch. Figuring out why qmk wouldn't recognize it. whew, i'm done.
buuuuuuut it sounds great, feels great, and I am happy with it.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/y7RPQXB.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/BZP9LLi.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/RmaR0yq.jpg)


Hey quick question, are the stabilizers plate or pcb mounted? Haven't received mine yet but I'm ordering some keycaps and switches now.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Mon, 18 May 2020, 12:56:36
Mine has been "on hold" 3 times so far.  Was supposed to arrive today.
Mine hasn't moved from hongkong since May 11th :(

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk

Well ****, just saw mine was on hold too :(
triple "on hold" as well. Absolute bummer.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: merkz on Mon, 18 May 2020, 13:23:43
real sad boy hours
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MxBlue on Mon, 18 May 2020, 14:23:25
Nice and boring grey.

Mill max sockets. Trying out 67g Zilents. Assembling/lubing pandas. Cutting a reset switch. Figuring out why qmk wouldn't recognize it. whew, i'm done.
buuuuuuut it sounds great, feels great, and I am happy with it.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/y7RPQXB.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/BZP9LLi.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/RmaR0yq.jpg)


Hey quick question, are the stabilizers plate or pcb mounted? Haven't received mine yet but I'm ordering some keycaps and switches now.
PCB mount stabilisers
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: InediblePi on Mon, 18 May 2020, 14:57:53
Anyone have more information about these special Key65s posted on zFrontier? https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21258
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Mon, 18 May 2020, 15:10:40
Anyone have more information about these special Key65s posted on zFrontier? https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21258

Damn those are nice - that fox logo is sick
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: merkz on Mon, 18 May 2020, 15:32:08
Anyone have more information about these special Key65s posted on zFrontier? https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21258

Damn those are nice - that fox logo is sick

Oh man if that fox logo was bronzed on a space gray body, I'd probably cream myself
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MsCookz on Mon, 18 May 2020, 16:36:09
got an update on dhl, it's now been on hold for four times now and was expecting it today  :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Mon, 18 May 2020, 16:38:06
got an update on dhl, it's now been on hold for four times now and was expecting it today  :(

Same thing here.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Mon, 18 May 2020, 16:56:56
Mine already at delivery facility in our city on 18th. But scheduled for delivery on 21st. They're on skeletal workforce.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DabbyBear on Mon, 18 May 2020, 17:33:40
got an update on dhl, it's now been on hold for four times now and was expecting it today  :(

Same thing here.

I'm on the fourth hold too... most recently today with an estimated arrival date of today, which if it truely is still in HK makes absolutely no sense. I understand the situation makes shipping a struggle but I really don't understand how the shipping estimation is this messed up.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: toanta on Mon, 18 May 2020, 18:03:24
got an update on dhl, it's now been on hold for four times now and was expecting it today  :(

Same thing here.

I'm on the fourth hold too... most recently today with an estimated arrival date of today, which if it truely is still in HK makes absolutely no sense. I understand the situation makes shipping a struggle but I really don't understand how the shipping estimation is this messed up.

It is the estimate before it gets into any sort of customs.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: deathjester on Mon, 18 May 2020, 18:15:08
Mine arrived today.

The finish is amazing, I'm really happy with the grey and blue anno!

Mine still came with the reset switch (clipped button) but I removed it anyway just to be safe.

Also I'm using an ISO plate file, the wings on the plate were too square and required the corners filing down (This wasn't too much of an issue because it's only brushed aluminium.
Second I put the rubber in between the plate and the PCB, but I didn't check it and the #~ key under the bottom of the enter key wouldn't fit due to the rubber, I had to trim it back, I'd already made extensive trims to allow for the ISO enter key.

Once I'd figured out how to adjust the template to move \ | to next to left shift it was a piece of cake to build and looks amazing.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: merkz on Mon, 18 May 2020, 18:33:42
got an update on dhl, it's now been on hold for four times now and was expecting it today  :(

Same thing here.

I'm on the fourth hold too... most recently today with an estimated arrival date of today, which if it truely is still in HK makes absolutely no sense. I understand the situation makes shipping a struggle but I really don't understand how the shipping estimation is this messed up.

It's because that plane is going to make a runway out of your street
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DabbyBear on Mon, 18 May 2020, 18:54:16
got an update on dhl, it's now been on hold for four times now and was expecting it today  :(

Same thing here.

I'm on the fourth hold too... most recently today with an estimated arrival date of today, which if it truely is still in HK makes absolutely no sense. I understand the situation makes shipping a struggle but I really don't understand how the shipping estimation is this messed up.

It's because that plane is going to make a runway out of your street

Time to clear the road and get the runway lights set up!  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: edctog on Mon, 18 May 2020, 19:10:26
My sorbothane sheet finally arrived. I stuffed that space right below the spacebar and now the spacebar sounds lovely and consistent like the rest of the board. Highly recommended I say!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ConfuseBill on Mon, 18 May 2020, 19:47:17
My sorbothane sheet finally arrived. I stuffed that space right below the spacebar and now the spacebar sounds lovely and consistent like the rest of the board. Highly recommended I say!

Please share pics on how you stuff it. Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Mon, 18 May 2020, 20:21:17
Anyone have more information about these special Key65s posted on zFrontier? https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21258

Isn't this what everybody wanted instead of the key logo? Haha
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: pengle on Mon, 18 May 2020, 20:35:44
I'm having an issue with one of the hotswap sockets on my board being dead, the one right above the right arrow key, not sure how to proceed. I've tested it with other switches and tried to manually test it with tweezers but it seems like the socket is full on dead. Anyone have any suggestions?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prangano on Mon, 18 May 2020, 20:39:01
I'm having an issue with one of the hotswap sockets on my board being dead, the one right above the right arrow key, not sure how to proceed. I've tested it with other switches and tried to manually test it with tweezers but it seems like the socket is full on dead. Anyone have any suggestions?
Adding a bit of solder to the sockets connection might help, also check if there is a missing diode next to the switch traces, sometimes they come loose, at least that happened to me on the NK65
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: pengle on Mon, 18 May 2020, 20:53:52
I'm having an issue with one of the hotswap sockets on my board being dead, the one right above the right arrow key, not sure how to proceed. I've tested it with other switches and tried to manually test it with tweezers but it seems like the socket is full on dead. Anyone have any suggestions?
Adding a bit of solder to the sockets connection might help, also check if there is a missing diode next to the switch traces, sometimes they come loose, at least that happened to me on the NK65

Thanks for the suggestion, I just tried adding solder but that didn't end up doing anything
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: o3okevin on Mon, 18 May 2020, 20:55:15
I'm having an issue with one of the hotswap sockets on my board being dead, the one right above the right arrow key, not sure how to proceed. I've tested it with other switches and tried to manually test it with tweezers but it seems like the socket is full on dead. Anyone have any suggestions?
could be because that's set to Fn by default
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: pengle on Mon, 18 May 2020, 21:00:49
I'm having an issue with one of the hotswap sockets on my board being dead, the one right above the right arrow key, not sure how to proceed. I've tested it with other switches and tried to manually test it with tweezers but it seems like the socket is full on dead. Anyone have any suggestions?
could be because that's set to Fn by default

Wow, I think you're right,would have never thought that was the case. I tried multiple keyboard testing suites but none of them showed 'fn' being pressed until I tried inputting it with number keys. Appreciate the help  :D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Mon, 18 May 2020, 21:55:09
Anyone have more information about these special Key65s posted on zFrontier? https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21258

With my limited knowledge of chinese, seems to be a valentines day gift. As to how he procured it, I'm not exactly sure.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: leexy on Mon, 18 May 2020, 22:32:24
managed to flash the pcb and was able to edit the keymappings in via. however, can't seem to turn on or adjust the led lighting. anyone facing similar issues? (universal pcb and not soldered yet)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Tue, 19 May 2020, 03:43:02
Are you talking about backlighting or underglow lighting? Blacklighting I can't help you with but the PCB doesn't have underglow LEDs unless you solder on a strip.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: leexy on Tue, 19 May 2020, 04:09:19
Are you talking about backlighting or underglow lighting? Blacklighting I can't help you with but the PCB doesn't have underglow LEDs unless you solder on a strip.

ah ok thanks. was under the impression the pcb had underglow
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Tue, 19 May 2020, 05:17:17
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141

I'm not sure if it was intentional or not but you're lighting the caps lock led when it's off, instead of the usual when it's on.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MxBlue on Tue, 19 May 2020, 06:13:12
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141

I'm not sure if it was intentional or not but you're lighting the caps lock led when it's off, instead of the usual when it's on.

Not what I had intended :)) Is this the case on both the universal and hotswap?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Tue, 19 May 2020, 07:33:24
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141

I'm not sure if it was intentional or not but you're lighting the caps lock led when it's off, instead of the usual when it's on.

Not what I had intended :)) Is this the case on both the universal and hotswap?

Yea it is. Fixed it up myself but I wasn't sure if it was intentional. I haven't tested the universal sicne I don't have led's on it, but I noticed it's the same function.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Tue, 19 May 2020, 08:28:10
Mine came not flawless  :(
https://imgur.com/a/yDs4Hzt

I notice 2 scratch and the alum color is visible
(https://imgur.com/er1eL2u)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 19 May 2020, 09:30:59
Mine came not flawless  :(
https://imgur.com/a/yDs4Hzt

I notice 2 scratch and the alum color is visible
Show Image
(https://imgur.com/er1eL2u)


Please send it back to me. I want to check it by myself. Your PM has been replied.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Tue, 19 May 2020, 09:49:36
Mine also just came in. Had to pay an extra 80zł (~20$) VAT, but then it arrived the next day.

Holy-moly this thing is niiiice. The e-coat is immaculate.

(https://i.imgur.com/lgPSJnJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FpRT68V.jpg)

Unfortunately, the PCB came in a little scuffed. Hopefully it's functional (will test later).

(https://i.imgur.com/5mZgIHt.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Z5sONmM.jpg)

It also seems that the reset button was already cut down.

(https://i.imgur.com/EF0yXuS.jpg)

The key corner logo is perfect, though. I'm so happy. :)

(https://i.imgur.com/jarxUTl.jpg)

E-white is a very nice shade; bright and milky. Here's a color comparison with a box of sweets. I'll be putting KAT Milkshake on it once that arrives, so hopefully it matches well. :)

(https://i.imgur.com/QRwjlZf.jpg)

Here's the full gallery if you need more: https://imgur.com/gallery/RE5NojO
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Tue, 19 May 2020, 10:20:57
Mine also just came in. Had to pay an extra 80zł (~20$) VAT, but then it arrived the next day.

Holy-moly this thing is niiiice. The e-coat is immaculate.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/lgPSJnJ.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/FpRT68V.jpg)


Unfortunately, the PCB came in a little scuffed. Hopefully it's functional (will test later).

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/5mZgIHt.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Z5sONmM.jpg)


It also seems that the reset button was already cut down.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/EF0yXuS.jpg)


The key corner logo is perfect, though. I'm so happy. :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/jarxUTl.jpg)


E-white is a very nice shade; bright and milky. Here's a color comparison with a box of sweets. I'll be putting KAT Milkshake on it once that arrives, so hopefully it matches well. :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/QRwjlZf.jpg)


Here's the full gallery if you need more: https://imgur.com/gallery/RE5NojO
Hi quick question,

My board was delivered to a friend, he was not able to find the gaskets.

Is the black plate like thingy the gasket?
I thought it was the foam which would go between the pcb and plate.

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Tue, 19 May 2020, 10:22:18
Mine also just came in. Had to pay an extra 80zł (~20$) VAT, but then it arrived the next day.

Holy-moly this thing is niiiice. The e-coat is immaculate.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/lgPSJnJ.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/FpRT68V.jpg)


Unfortunately, the PCB came in a little scuffed. Hopefully it's functional (will test later).

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/5mZgIHt.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Z5sONmM.jpg)


It also seems that the reset button was already cut down.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/EF0yXuS.jpg)


The key corner logo is perfect, though. I'm so happy. :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/jarxUTl.jpg)


E-white is a very nice shade; bright and milky. Here's a color comparison with a box of sweets. I'll be putting KAT Milkshake on it once that arrives, so hopefully it matches well. :)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/QRwjlZf.jpg)


Here's the full gallery if you need more: https://imgur.com/gallery/RE5NojO
Hi quick question,

My board was delivered to a friend, he was not able to find the gaskets.

Is the black plate like thingy the gasket?
I thought it was the foam which would go between the pcb and plate.

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk

Gaskets are in small ziplock



(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200519/8df8ba6b8d18f0a67f55e83b553c8616.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Tue, 19 May 2020, 11:14:52
Hi quick question,

My board was delivered to a friend, he was not able to find the gaskets.

Is the black plate like thingy the gasket?
I thought it was the foam which would go between the pcb and plate.
You are correct. That is the foam (but it feels more like rubber) that is sandwiched between the plate and PCB. The gaskets and the bumpons were packed in a small plastic bag. They're translucent and were packaged on the top layer of the box along with the gloves and alcohol pads.

(https://i.imgur.com/CBkcyc1.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Tue, 19 May 2020, 11:34:49
Hi quick question,

My board was delivered to a friend, he was not able to find the gaskets.

Is the black plate like thingy the gasket?
I thought it was the foam which would go between the pcb and plate.
You are correct. That is the foam (but it feels more like rubber) that is sandwiched between the plate and PCB. The gaskets and the bumpons were packed in a small plastic bag. They're translucent and were packaged on the top layer of the box along with the gloves and alcohol pads.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/CBkcyc1.jpg)

Thanks for the clearing that up so quick :)

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Tue, 19 May 2020, 14:07:28
Seems like all of the keyboards going to the east coast are going to come together since I have had a "Shipment on Hold" status just like some others on the east coast.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Tue, 19 May 2020, 14:17:27
Seems like all of the keyboards going to the east coast are going to come together since I have had a "Shipment on Hold" status just like some others on the east coast.

I called DHL about my package (coming to CHI) because I also have a laundry list of "Shipment on hold" statuses, and they told me that Hong Kong currently only allows a certain quantity of packages to be sent out per day. They also said they might not update the estimated delivery date and also don't know when the package would ship.

I sort of assumed this was the case, so we have no choice but to continue playing the waiting game for now...
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Tue, 19 May 2020, 14:43:32
Seems like all of the keyboards going to the east coast are going to come together since I have had a "Shipment on Hold" status just like some others on the east coast.

I called DHL about my package (coming to CHI) because I also have a laundry list of "Shipment on hold" statuses, and they told me that Hong Kong currently only allows a certain quantity of packages to be sent out per day. They also said they might not update the estimated delivery date and also don't know when the package would ship.

I sort of assumed this was the case, so we have no choice but to continue playing the waiting game for now...

That is good to know. Thank you follow-up with them!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: johnny2304 on Tue, 19 May 2020, 16:17:49
 "on hold" 5th times so far. The Estimated Delivery Date is currently unavailable.   :'(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prangano on Tue, 19 May 2020, 16:43:34
Tracking says shipment information received since May 7th but I got it today so yeah, DHL’s a mess right now.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MxBlue on Tue, 19 May 2020, 17:58:40
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141

I'm not sure if it was intentional or not but you're lighting the caps lock led when it's off, instead of the usual when it's on.

Not what I had intended :)) Is this the case on both the universal and hotswap?

Yea it is. Fixed it up myself but I wasn't sure if it was intentional. I haven't tested the universal sicne I don't have led's on it, but I noticed it's the same function.

Fixed and tested on universal, should be fixed up on hotswap too. Thanks for pointing it out.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cresc3nt on Wed, 20 May 2020, 00:28:26
Tracking says shipment information received since May 7th but I got it today so yeah, DHL’s a mess right now.
What country?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Wed, 20 May 2020, 00:30:31
Tracking says shipment information received since May 7th but I got it today so yeah, DHL’s a mess right now.
What country?
I received it yesterday and DHL website still says shipment information received. So please take the tracking information with a grain if salt.

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cresc3nt on Wed, 20 May 2020, 00:36:40
Tracking says shipment information received since May 7th but I got it today so yeah, DHL’s a mess right now.
What country?
I received it yesterday and DHL website still says shipment information received. So please take the tracking information with a grain if salt.

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk

Well I guess that's better than my package being stuck in Hong Kong all this time and I may receive it any day now since my shipment says it was received on the 7th, but it's been on hold since then.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MsCookz on Wed, 20 May 2020, 00:37:43
Tracking says shipment information received since May 7th but I got it today so yeah, DHL’s a mess right now.
What country?
I received it yesterday and DHL website still says shipment information received. So please take the tracking information with a grain if salt.

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what was your estimated delivery date though on the website?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prangano on Wed, 20 May 2020, 02:36:32
Tracking says shipment information received since May 7th but I got it today so yeah, DHL’s a mess right now.
What country?
I received it yesterday and DHL website still says shipment information received. So please take the tracking information with a grain if salt.

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what was your estimated delivery date though on the website?
Mine didn't have an estimate, it still says shipment information received and no estimate
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: tuilokee on Wed, 20 May 2020, 02:56:45
Received my package yesterday (excited),but no tools to open the case.
Can anyone tell me what size of (hex) wrench I need?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 20 May 2020, 03:02:15
Added foam on spacebar area

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200520/27a09574c03cd741b39ba146202dad8c.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 20 May 2020, 03:07:42
Finally built mine. Its my first time to use a gasket/sandwich mount keyboard. Really loving it!

(https://i.imgur.com/cozESWy.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Izr1jSc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Izr1jSc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/UuzVmQc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/giinTCd.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uwOTY1q.jpg)

Sorry for my cloned Olivia (PBT Blush). Its a doubleshot.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Wed, 20 May 2020, 05:33:47
Received my package yesterday (excited),but no tools to open the case.
Can anyone tell me what size of (hex) wrench I need?

The one I used just says 2.0 on it.  but yeah it is a hex tip
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: tuilokee on Wed, 20 May 2020, 09:39:35

The one I used just says 2.0 on it.  but yeah it is a hex tip

thanks,really helpful.
Title: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: prangano on Wed, 20 May 2020, 09:59:24
Have some issues on my plate.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZyqQZcP.jpg)

Seems these two parts are untreated. Will they rust?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thecyangiant on Wed, 20 May 2020, 10:07:38
Have some issues on my plate.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ZyqQZcP.jpg)


Seems these two parts are untreated. Will they rust?
It's possible that those may eventually rust, you could probably apply a thin coat of clear fingernail polish if you are concerned. 

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Wed, 20 May 2020, 10:20:28
There is another Key 65 on zfrontier with a fox logo. Looks pretty cool!
https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21303
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: deathjester on Wed, 20 May 2020, 10:21:12
Have some issues on my plate.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ZyqQZcP.jpg)


Seems these two parts are untreated. Will they rust?

It shouldn't do it's aluminium not steel or iron. I might oxidize given time but that will be a streaky white appearance.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Wed, 20 May 2020, 10:27:24
Finally built mine. Its my first time to use a gasket/sandwich mount keyboard. Really loving it!

[...]

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Izr1jSc.jpg)


[...]
Sweet build. Love how the pink plate peeks out from in between the keycaps.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: finalarcadia on Wed, 20 May 2020, 11:24:00
So when is the next gb senter, loving that new fox logo

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 20 May 2020, 12:14:44
There is another Key 65 on zfrontier with a fox logo. Looks pretty cool!
https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21303

I won't call it Key65 as there's no key logo or the kanji logo on it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Wed, 20 May 2020, 12:59:59
There is another Key 65 on zfrontier with a fox logo. Looks pretty cool!
https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21303

I won't call it Key65 as there's no key logo or the kanji logo on it.

Would you call it the Fox65?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SolidCactus on Wed, 20 May 2020, 13:36:22
There is another Key 65 on zfrontier with a fox logo. Looks pretty cool!
https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21303

I won't call it Key65 as there's no key logo or the kanji logo on it.

I have a Key65 but would love to pick up a Fox Logo one as well! Bring on Fox65 Senter :p
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 20 May 2020, 13:49:05
There is another Key 65 on zfrontier with a fox logo. Looks pretty cool!
https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21303

I won't call it Key65 as there's no key logo or the kanji logo on it.

I have a Key65 but would love to pick up a Fox Logo one as well! Bring on Fox65 Senter :p

The fox logo was not designed by me. A friend designed it. I only made several kits with that logo.
Personally I like the key logo better. I also designed a similar lock logo for potential future keyboard kits.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Wed, 20 May 2020, 17:35:14
There is another Key 65 on zfrontier with a fox logo. Looks pretty cool!
https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21303

I won't call it Key65 as there's no key logo or the kanji logo on it.

I have a Key65 but would love to pick up a Fox Logo one as well! Bring on Fox65 Senter

The fox logo was not designed by me. A friend designed it. I only made several kits with that logo.
Personally I like the key logo better. I also designed a similar lock logo for potential future keyboard kits.
Any chance you will release a 75% next?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Wed, 20 May 2020, 18:22:16
Anyone else having some pcb issues? Everytime I push 'X' my kb shuts off.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kohsta on Wed, 20 May 2020, 18:30:40
Anyone else having some pcb issues? Everytime I push 'X' my kb shuts off.

You'll need to open the case trim the reset switch with wire cutters then youll be all good.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Wed, 20 May 2020, 18:44:28

You'll need to open the case trim the reset switch with wire cutters then youll be all good.
[/quote]

Thanks!

Another Q, how do I use the VIA above? I can't get it to pull up in via configurator :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Wed, 20 May 2020, 18:48:02

You'll need to open the case trim the reset switch with wire cutters then youll be all good.

Thanks!

Another Q, how do I use the VIA above? I can't get it to pull up in via configurator :(
[/quote]


You need to get the via firmware someone posted above and load the json in VIA. Will probably be a while for it to be officially pulled into QMK and VIA.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Wed, 20 May 2020, 18:51:24

You need to get the via firmware someone posted above and load the json in VIA. Will probably be a while for it to be officially pulled into QMK and VIA.

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I can't figure out how to download the JSON oops

Edit: NVM I am dumb af. I got it downloaded. But when I load it I can't change the mapping.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Wed, 20 May 2020, 19:02:25

You need to get the via firmware someone posted above and load the json in VIA. Will probably be a while for it to be officially pulled into QMK and VIA.

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I can't figure out how to download the JSON oops


Edit: NVM I am dumb af. I got it downloaded. But when I load it I can't change the mapping. Also not seeing it come up in QMK.

Got it, FN + ESC for reset first
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 20 May 2020, 23:21:33

Using camphone only
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Thu, 21 May 2020, 00:53:40
Thanks IPSE

(https://i.imgur.com/VVR3ycp.png)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: audax989 on Thu, 21 May 2020, 04:52:55

Using camphone only

Sounds really good myk
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Faust_ on Thu, 21 May 2020, 08:33:09
Will there be extra tops/plates for purchase?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: spring4k on Thu, 21 May 2020, 10:53:39
There is no place to solder the led under the pcb. Is there a way to install the led under pcb?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Thu, 21 May 2020, 11:38:46
There is no place to solder the led under the pcb. Is there a way to install the led under pcb?
(https://i.imgur.com/KqOD8Nm.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Thu, 21 May 2020, 11:44:09
Thanks for the tip. Will do a test fit first as well to see if I like it better with foam or without. Also, mine just landed in Germany a couple of hours ago. I expect to receive it some time next week.

It isn't actually foam. It's more like rubber. Mine turned out fine so I didn't really need to cut anything out.

I thought we had guidance from Senter about assembly in the original post or something. Trying to assemble this blind with maybe cutouts here on the foam, maybe cutouts there just makes me rather uncomfortable. For a board that took cost $400 and took six months to receive, we should have assembly instructions set-in-stone. Just going off the notifications I have received in the past two weeks about people's builds, I'm still not totally sure what's "correct" and what's not in terms of the order of gasket, plate, and case...

In other news, I saw you said you received your kit. Any pics - I want to see what you mean by the glossyness.

Yeah I was a tiny bit annoyed at the lack of the build guide. Would definitely be more reassuring to have a guide on where to put what and how to flash your PCB all in one place, especially since I'm coming off my Polaris.

As you can see in the picture, the red isn't exactly as matte as the black, but it's not serious enough to make me regret buying it.

Edit: For flashing on QMK, go to the site that senter linked in the post and download the JSON file and load it up to kbdfirmware. After you finish mapping, compile it into a HEX file and download it. Once done, boot up QMK firmware, connect your PCB and reset it. Once QMK has detected your PCB, manually select the HEX file that you compiled previously and then flash it. That should do the trick.

Nooooo I was so hoping you wouldn't like it so you would sell it to me  ;)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Thu, 21 May 2020, 11:55:27
Will there be extra tops/plates for purchase?
Plates probably, can't really say anything about tops

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vi0till on Thu, 21 May 2020, 12:15:51
There is another Key 65 on zfrontier with a fox logo. Looks pretty cool!
https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21303

I won't call it Key65 as there's no key logo or the kanji logo on it.

I have a Key65 but would love to pick up a Fox Logo one as well! Bring on Fox65 Senter

The fox logo was not designed by me. A friend designed it. I only made several kits with that logo.
Personally I like the key logo better. I also designed a similar lock logo for potential future keyboard kits.
Any chance you will release a 75% next?

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+1 for 75% as well.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: finalarcadia on Thu, 21 May 2020, 14:31:31
I think it's time for that tkl, and based on senter's Instagram I may be right.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dumpling420 on Thu, 21 May 2020, 15:48:43
There is no place to solder the led under the pcb. Is there a way to install the led under pcb?
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/KqOD8Nm.jpg)


What kind of LED strip is that?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Thu, 21 May 2020, 17:29:49
There is no place to solder the led under the pcb. Is there a way to install the led under pcb?
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/KqOD8Nm.jpg)


What kind of LED strip is that?
Ws2812B


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Instinct on Thu, 21 May 2020, 20:20:18
There is no place to solder the led under the pcb. Is there a way to install the led under pcb?
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/KqOD8Nm.jpg)


What kind of LED strip is that?
Ws2812B


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Is it possible to change the brightness and turn off/on the lightstrip through a keybind with firmware? If so, what QMK keycodes are used?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: achan7942 on Thu, 21 May 2020, 21:19:42
There is no place to solder the led under the pcb. Is there a way to install the led under pcb?
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/KqOD8Nm.jpg)


What kind of LED strip is that?
Ws2812B


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Is it possible to change the brightness and turn off/on the lightstrip through a keybind with firmware? If so, what QMK keycodes are used?
Believe it was fn + q / w / e / r
The keymap files will show you exactly.


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Trixxur on Thu, 21 May 2020, 22:19:20
Just finished the build but I’m having clearance issues with the spacebar stabiliser bar hitting the plate. I have the 7U hotswap PCB.
Anyone else having this issue and any solutions?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Fri, 22 May 2020, 00:35:43
Just finished the build but I’m having clearance issues with the spacebar stabiliser bar hitting the plate. I have the 7U hotswap PCB.
Anyone else having this issue and any solutions?

Silly question, but just making sure: did you install the gaskets correctly?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Fri, 22 May 2020, 00:37:23
Just finished the build but I’m having clearance issues with the spacebar stabiliser bar hitting the plate. I have the 7U hotswap PCB.
Anyone else having this issue and any solutions?

Silly question, but just making sure: did you install the gaskets correctly?
A build guide would've helped avoid unnecessary confusion.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Trixxur on Fri, 22 May 2020, 00:59:25
Just finished the build but I’m having clearance issues with the spacebar stabiliser bar hitting the plate. I have the 7U hotswap PCB.
Anyone else having this issue and any solutions?

Silly question, but just making sure: did you install the gaskets correctly?

Yup everything fits well and I am very sure that gaskets are installed in the correct positions. Literally just the plate blocking the stab bars from coming up.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Fri, 22 May 2020, 04:05:20
Can you maybe show us a photo of the issue?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ShadeDream on Fri, 22 May 2020, 07:44:24
Hmm... still sitting on "Shipping Information Received" for me since May 8th... little concerning.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Fri, 22 May 2020, 07:46:12
Hmm... still sitting on "Shipping Information Received" for me since May 8th... little concerning.
It'll show up suddenly without any updates, atleast that's what happened to me.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kurple on Fri, 22 May 2020, 08:14:36
Hmm... still sitting on "Shipping Information Received" for me since May 8th... little concerning.
There's a DHL tracking # in the PayPal email. For me, this number still states that shipping info isn't received.

I don't use that number.

After signing up for SMS notifications on the original tracking #, I received an SMS with a different tracking #.

This new tracking # actually gives me information.

Perhaps you (along with the others who have the same experience) need to do the same thing.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Fri, 22 May 2020, 09:31:40
Hmm... still sitting on "Shipping Information Received" for me since May 8th... little concerning.
There's a DHL tracking # in the PayPal email. For me, this number still states that shipping info isn't received.

I don't use that number.

After signing up for SMS notifications on the original tracking #, I received an SMS with a different tracking #.

This new tracking # actually gives me information.

Perhaps you (along with the others who have the same experience) need to do the same thing.

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I had the same experience, the original PP tracking number didn't end up being the one I used to track delivery. I got a text with one later on and that one gave me the info I needed.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: chrainer on Fri, 22 May 2020, 14:06:17
Hmm... still sitting on "Shipping Information Received" for me since May 8th... little concerning.
don't worry - i had this issue several times(including now - waiting since may 13th), when ordering from china! I got kind of used to waiting for 3-4+weeks
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Fri, 22 May 2020, 16:02:39
Hmm... still sitting on "Shipping Information Received" for me since May 8th... little concerning.
There's a DHL tracking # in the PayPal email. For me, this number still states that shipping info isn't received.

I don't use that number.

After signing up for SMS notifications on the original tracking #, I received an SMS with a different tracking #.

This new tracking # actually gives me information.

Perhaps you (along with the others who have the same experience) need to do the same thing.

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Same experience here.  My board has been on hold in HK for a week now, waiting for room on a plane for transit.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ShadeDream on Fri, 22 May 2020, 16:29:17
After signing up for SMS notifications on the original tracking #, I received an SMS with a different tracking #.

This new tracking # actually gives me information.

Perhaps you (along with the others who have the same experience) need to do the same thing.

Ahh just checked the text message and it is a different number... not much help either though as it's just shipment on hold messages since the 14th. Will watch that one from now on.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MsCookz on Fri, 22 May 2020, 16:52:31
Hmm... still sitting on "Shipping Information Received" for me since May 8th... little concerning.
There's a DHL tracking # in the PayPal email. For me, this number still states that shipping info isn't received.

I don't use that number.

After signing up for SMS notifications on the original tracking #, I received an SMS with a different tracking #.

This new tracking # actually gives me information.

Perhaps you (along with the others who have the same experience) need to do the same thing.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

Same experience here.  My board has been on hold in HK for a week now, waiting for room on a plane for transit.

I am assuming that anyone in the US still have their shipment on hold (just like mine since may 8 ). Just sad to have to keep waiting longer, when we already waited so long ;(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dwarflemur on Fri, 22 May 2020, 17:16:42
I got mine in California on Monday, text came sometime last week I don't remember. I had the same thing where the tracking number in the text was the one that actually tracked it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MsCookz on Fri, 22 May 2020, 17:33:04
I got mine in California on Monday, text came sometime last week I don't remember. I had the same thing where the tracking number in the text was the one that actually tracked it.

maybe it's just the mid-east coast US? My tracking number that gives more details, didn't update for May 22, so maybe it got shipped, I'm just hoping at this point
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Bryan on Sat, 23 May 2020, 01:11:25
Built mine a few days ago, and finally got around to taking some glamour shots and a noob's type test.

It's my best sounding and feeling keyboard so far! I hope everyone enjoys theirs!

Thanks Senter/Fox Lab!

Gateron Black Inks (Krytox 205g0)
Top/Mid/Bot: E-white
Plate: Brass (E-white)
Weight/Logo: Brass (E-black)

(https://i.imgur.com/Io7EWtF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/y2XSVSH.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/roq8cK0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DjDyRhq.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HxXTXlP.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VpKjoXB.jpg)

Type Test: https://streamable.com/tf1raa

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Sat, 23 May 2020, 02:30:13
Built mine a few days ago, and finally got around to taking some glamour shots and a noob's type test.

It's my best sounding and feeling keyboard so far! I hope everyone enjoys theirs!

Thanks Senter/Fox Lab!


Very nice, dude!  That's a great color combo, and it sounds wonderful!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cresc3nt on Sat, 23 May 2020, 03:01:56
Built mine a few days ago, and finally got around to taking some glamour shots and a noob's type test.

It's my best sounding and feeling keyboard so far! I hope everyone enjoys theirs!

Thanks Senter/Fox Lab!

Gateron Black Inks (Krytox 205g0)
Top/Mid/Bot: E-white
Plate: Brass (E-white)
Weight/Logo: Brass (E-black)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/Io7EWtF.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/y2XSVSH.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/roq8cK0.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/DjDyRhq.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/HxXTXlP.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/VpKjoXB.jpg)


Type Test: https://streamable.com/tf1raa

This looks and sounds amazing. Great build.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jdbaker82 on Sun, 24 May 2020, 08:25:25
Can someone PLEASE put an entire build video on YouTube for this keyboard I have no idea how to build it.....
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: merkz on Sun, 24 May 2020, 09:01:35
I'm still stuck in shipment on hold hell
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: johnny2304 on Sun, 24 May 2020, 09:19:32
I'm still stuck in shipment on hold hell
Same here,  shipment on hold for over a week already!  :-[
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: merkz on Sun, 24 May 2020, 09:23:51
I'm still stuck in shipment on hold hell
Same here,  shipment on hold for over a week already!  :-[

Is this your first group buy as well?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Sun, 24 May 2020, 09:30:51
I'm still stuck in shipment on hold hell
Same here,  shipment on hold for over a week already!  :-[

Is this your first group buy as well?

Same here gents.  This is my first GB board.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sun, 24 May 2020, 09:33:00
Looks like problem to US only? I have another key65 to be delivered on Tuesday. Its already here in PH.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Sun, 24 May 2020, 09:34:43
Looks like problem to US only? I have another key65 to be delivered on Tuesday. Its already here in PH.

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Yes, DHL told me when I called that there's only X number of shipments going to the US per day, and our parcels just have to wait for a spot.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sun, 24 May 2020, 09:34:44
Can someone PLEASE put an entire build video on YouTube for this keyboard I have no idea how to build it.....
There is a twitch build stream posted few page back.

Also there is step by step assembly with photos on zfrontier.com


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Sun, 24 May 2020, 09:56:26
Hoping that they will be able to combine some of the US boards in one shipment!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Sun, 24 May 2020, 10:19:21
Just want to confirm, use 8 short gaskets on top, 8 short gaskets and 6 long gaskets on middle case, so the total gaskets used should be 16 short and 6 long ones right?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Sun, 24 May 2020, 10:19:29
Can someone PLEASE put an entire build video on YouTube for this keyboard I have no idea how to build it.....

https://www.twitch.tv/hugokeys - key 65 build stream.

https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/19498 - Zfrontier build guide

Gasket positions:
- https://i.imgur.com/tqlbabP.jpg
- https://i.imgur.com/k6zpnxl.jpg
- https://i.imgur.com/jEUy7ng.jpg

I got the gasket position images from the OP.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Sun, 24 May 2020, 10:21:25
Just want to confirm, use 8 short gaskets on top, 8 short gaskets and 6 long gaskets on middle case, so the total gaskets used should be 16 short and 6 long ones right?
Check the starting post, gasket positions are provided :)

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Sun, 24 May 2020, 10:22:40
Just want to confirm, use 8 short gaskets on top, 8 short gaskets and 6 long gaskets on middle case, so the total gaskets used should be 16 short and 6 long ones right?
Check the starting post, gasket positions are provided :)

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Still not clear whether to use 8 short gaskets on either top / middle case or 8 on each top and middle case (so 16 in total).

Edit: After watching the linked stream I guess I should use 16 of them.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: matrixzj on Sun, 24 May 2020, 11:54:31
Just want to confirm, use 8 short gaskets on top, 8 short gaskets and 6 long gaskets on middle case, so the total gaskets used should be 16 short and 6 long ones right?
Check the starting post, gasket positions are provided :)

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Still not clear whether to use 8 short gaskets on either top / middle case or 8 on each top and middle case (so 16 in total).

Edit: After watching the linked stream I guess I should use 16 of them.

All should be used on both top and bottom of PCB. And you can also put them on case.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kasterborous on Sun, 24 May 2020, 13:10:19
Hi, small question but, does anyone know what sort of PCBs are compatible with this keyboard? Thanks  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sun, 24 May 2020, 20:22:14
I positioned the gaskets

Top (bottom part)
Middle (top part)
Bottom (top part)

I did not put gaskets on plate. Do not put gaskets on middle (bottom part) for it will stick on pcb.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Sun, 24 May 2020, 20:40:17
Does the pcb have another reset method if i remove the reset button?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sun, 24 May 2020, 20:42:02
Does the pcb have another reset method if i remove the reset button?

Fn+Esc

Or you simply change the key or combination.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: finalarcadia on Mon, 25 May 2020, 14:44:18
Some pics of the build

(https://i.imgur.com/lTudBcY.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/lwY0jdZ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/00Nq8UG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/EWl0sGh.jpg)

Striker will have to do until GMK Lux.

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MadsMe on Mon, 25 May 2020, 14:52:38
Looks like problem to US only? I have another key65 to be delivered on Tuesday. Its already here in PH.

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Yes, DHL told me when I called that there's only X number of shipments going to the US per day, and our parcels just have to wait for a spot.

I'm in EU an in the same situation. I guess the shipping case is the same here as well. Good insight thank you!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Willtham on Mon, 25 May 2020, 17:58:06
Is it still worth putting a foam plate on the back of the pcb or do you guys think its sounds good with its switch foams.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MxBlue on Mon, 25 May 2020, 17:58:39
I went and put the gaskets on the case parts, since you can't swap out PCB/plates otherwise. The different methods contact the same places, so they should all work out.

(https://i.imgur.com/XqK5DqJ.png)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Mon, 25 May 2020, 20:10:02
I did the same, gaskets on the case parts and it seems to be working out just fine.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Mon, 25 May 2020, 23:51:42
Don't want to come off as condescending, but it isn't hard to build at all.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Tue, 26 May 2020, 01:13:35
Don't want to come off as condescending, but it isn't hard to build at all.

+1
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Se1nZ on Tue, 26 May 2020, 01:20:20
I went and put the gaskets on the case parts, since you can't swap out PCB/plates otherwise. The different methods contact the same places, so they should all work out.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/XqK5DqJ.png)


what a nice idea of yours. hahaha gonna try later for new pcb and plate.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MxBlue on Tue, 26 May 2020, 01:44:11
Don't want to come off as condescending, but it isn't hard to build at all.

It's not very, once you figure out where to stick those weird rubber things lmao. But yea, for someone who's trying a gasket board for the first time, it can be a little confusing. Just a pic like the one I provided would go a long way.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: bananafritters on Tue, 26 May 2020, 03:04:35
Thanks @MxBlue for the contribution to qmk_firmware, finally I am able to use GESC.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: molotov87 on Tue, 26 May 2020, 03:23:21
i have a question about my board. when I hold down the F Key like if im  playing a game where that key bind requires me to hold it down for a certain amount of time my board loses its functionality and disconnects, LEDs stay on. is this an issue or am i activating a modifier ? im using the modifier button from the stock flash set up
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Se1nZ on Tue, 26 May 2020, 03:33:01
i have a question about my board. when I hold down the F Key like if im  playing a game where that key bind requires me to hold it down for a certain amount of time my board loses its functionality and disconnects, LEDs stay on. is this an issue or am i activating a modifier ? im using the modifier button from the stock flash set up

have you clipped your reset button below the PCB?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: johnny2304 on Tue, 26 May 2020, 18:54:31
Departed Facility in HONG KONG  :p :p :)) :)) Finally, it's moving
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Tue, 26 May 2020, 19:24:36
Departed Facility in HONG KONG  :p :p :)) :)) Finally, it's moving

grats! still no update on mine since april 28th. any other April waiters :P ?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Tue, 26 May 2020, 19:37:02
Departed Facility in HONG KONG  :p :p :)) :)) Finally, it's moving

Aww yeah, mine has moved as well! Strange I didn't get a text notification this time around.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MsCookz on Tue, 26 May 2020, 19:50:51
Departed Facility in HONG KONG  :p :p :)) :)) Finally, it's moving

Aww yeah, mine has moved as well! Strange I didn't get a text notification this time around.

yep just refreshed mine, says it has been processed and departed hk at 7:20!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 27 May 2020, 03:13:02
Second key65 arrived

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Surefoot on Wed, 27 May 2020, 04:55:59
Is there a way to get an extra PCB ? (i want to experiment with plates) Will there be a sale for extras ?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Wed, 27 May 2020, 13:26:33
would also love to do an extra PCB / plate post GB. saw senter ran one for his older boards recently so maybe this one will pop up again.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: merkz on Wed, 27 May 2020, 15:26:26
Departed Facility in HONG KONG  :p :p :)) :)) Finally, it's moving

Aww yeah, mine has moved as well! Strange I didn't get a text notification this time around.

Mine hasn't updated since yesterday but still on hold was the last update I received :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Willtham on Wed, 27 May 2020, 17:15:00
As I was screwing in the last screw I think it striped on me and won't tighten is there a fix for this or is that a total loss :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 27 May 2020, 18:11:15
As I was screwing in the last screw I think it striped on me and won't tighten is there a fix for this or is that a total loss :(
You over tighten it, lost its thread. Maybe you can use a little wider screw. Wait for other's opinion.

Is it PC?

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Willtham on Wed, 27 May 2020, 23:10:25
As I was screwing in the last screw I think it striped on me and won't tighten is there a fix for this or is that a total loss :(
You over tighten it, lost its thread. Maybe you can use a little wider screw. Wait for other's opinion.

Is it PC?

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Nope is All ewhite. Man sad life it just some of its value uwu
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Se1nZ on Wed, 27 May 2020, 23:23:07
My build, the blue and yellow goes well with Nautilus.

sorry for blurry pics  :))

(https://i.imgur.com/tQoC2en.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: SoraNoTenshi on Thu, 28 May 2020, 07:11:37
Does anyone of you have a weird 'Pink' colour on their board?

I am kinda sad that it turned out to look more salmon than the pink in the render....
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Thu, 28 May 2020, 07:17:08
Does anyone of you have a weird 'Pink' colour on their board?

I am kinda sad that it turned out to look more salmon than the pink in the render....
Im happy with the color. Mine have pink logo, plate, bottom


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kipawazi on Thu, 28 May 2020, 10:56:29
Have some issues on my plate.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ZyqQZcP.jpg)


Seems these two parts are untreated. Will they rust?

Same here.

It's not too visible but the surface is not coated ^^.

(https://i.imgur.com/SVmUtBS.jpg)

Here is a big scratch of a tool :s

(https://i.imgur.com/cFVnAqZ.jpg)

And a failling pcb :s

(https://i.imgur.com/ZiY82wt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zGtT1jZ.jpg)

One key press => two keys pressed. I reflashed with QMK but no effect.

Someone have his email address please?

Thank you :s
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Thu, 28 May 2020, 11:14:27
Have some issues on my plate.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ZyqQZcP.jpg)


Seems these two parts are untreated. Will they rust?

Same here.

It's not too visible but the surface is not coated ^^.

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/SVmUtBS.jpg)


Here is a big scratch of a tool :s

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/cFVnAqZ.jpg)


And a failling pcb :s

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ZiY82wt.jpg)

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zGtT1jZ.jpg)


One key press => two keys pressed. I reflashed with QMK but no effect.

Someone have his email address please?

Thank you :s

PM him on geekhack. He usually responds faster that way
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: johnny2304 on Thu, 28 May 2020, 13:33:06
waiting for mine delivery TODAY  :p :p :p ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: att1cus on Thu, 28 May 2020, 13:36:01
Mine just arrived!

(https://i.imgur.com/RoMh3to.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/3HLk0Ph.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Thu, 28 May 2020, 14:20:08
Mine just arrived!

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/RoMh3to.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/3HLk0Ph.jpg)

Nice! Hoping that I will get lucky and the next shipment will include NYC orders.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Thu, 28 May 2020, 14:59:43
Arrived to chicago today<33333 Have not assembled yet but the board looks pristine :cool:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: oldcat on Thu, 28 May 2020, 16:56:04
As I was screwing in the last screw I think it striped on me and won't tighten is there a fix for this or is that a total loss :(

Will be hard to fix once stripped

Custom keebs, Handle with care :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Thu, 28 May 2020, 21:51:23
Do plate clip-in stabs work in this board? I have ordered screw in stabs but due to shipping issues, they seem to have gotten lost in the mail.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Thu, 28 May 2020, 22:34:05
Do plate clip-in stabs work in this board? I have ordered screw in stabs but due to shipping issues, they seem to have gotten lost in the mail.
Nope

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Thu, 28 May 2020, 23:10:29
I have two Key 65, two alu plates, one titanium plate, and one PC plate. One alu plate is thick and heavy, the other is thin and light. The difference is quite noticeable. Does anyone else have a thick alu plate? Not complaining, at all. Both sound great. Maybe my thick alu plate is actually brass.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Se1nZ on Thu, 28 May 2020, 23:13:24
I have two Key 65, two alu plates, one titanium plate, and one PC plate. One alu plate is thick and heavy, the other is thin and light. The difference is quite noticeable. Does anyone else have a thick alu plate? Not complaining, at all. Both sound great. Maybe my thick alu plate is actually brass.

have pic?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noideawhatsgoing on Thu, 28 May 2020, 23:26:22
I have two Key 65, two alu plates, one titanium plate, and one PC plate. One alu plate is thick and heavy, the other is thin and light. The difference is quite noticeable. Does anyone else have a thick alu plate? Not complaining, at all. Both sound great. Maybe my thick alu plate is actually brass.

have pic?

https://imgur.com/a/FJN3Ivh

The teal plate is much heavier and has like no flex, the black plate is very light and flexes a lot. I'm happy with the difference. The weight difference is very noticeable. I am not using the dampener with the black plate because it had so much more flex, I figure I'd go without it for some "clacks" while the teal plate gives the "thocks."

Perhaps "thick" was not the best descriptor, it is more the weight difference. I don't want to take these apart for science quite yet, though.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Se1nZ on Thu, 28 May 2020, 23:34:54
I have two Key 65, two alu plates, one titanium plate, and one PC plate. One alu plate is thick and heavy, the other is thin and light. The difference is quite noticeable. Does anyone else have a thick alu plate? Not complaining, at all. Both sound great. Maybe my thick alu plate is actually brass.

have pic?

https://imgur.com/a/FJN3Ivh

The teal plate is much heavier and has like no flex, the black plate is very light and flexes a lot. I'm happy with the difference. The weight difference is very noticeable. I am not using the dampener with the black plate because it had so much more flex, I figure I'd go without it for some "clacks" while the teal plate gives the "thocks."

Perhaps "thick" was not the best descriptor, it is more the weight difference. I don't want to take these apart for science quite yet, though.

since it was painted, maybe one of your alu plate is actually a brass plate. hahahha
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ninjinphu on Fri, 29 May 2020, 03:01:05
Polycarb looks and feels amazing thank you for an amazing keyboard <3
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: wil on Fri, 29 May 2020, 08:11:15
no update from DHL in more than 2 weeks now :blank:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Fri, 29 May 2020, 10:04:10
no update from DHL in more than 2 weeks now :blank:

I just got movement on my package. It took over 2.5 weeks for me.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Fri, 29 May 2020, 10:06:53
Any April people still no updates? :D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: wil on Fri, 29 May 2020, 10:36:34
no update from DHL in more than 2 weeks now :blank:

I just got movement on my package. It took over 2.5 weeks for me.

glad to hear that! makes me less nervous  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: merkz on Fri, 29 May 2020, 11:26:20
no update from DHL in more than 2 weeks now :blank:

I just got movement on my package. It took over 2.5 weeks for me.

glad to hear that! makes me less nervous  :thumb:

Mine was on hold from the 15th till yesterday it finally left hong kong
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ShadeDream on Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:43:19
Finally got mine, looks great all around. Will probably stream building it on Saturday, might be helpful for people confused on the build process.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: wil on Fri, 29 May 2020, 14:58:30
no update from DHL in more than 2 weeks now :blank:

I just got movement on my package. It took over 2.5 weeks for me.

glad to hear that! makes me less nervous  :thumb:

so, ironically, mine arrived today with no text message or anything! DHL's tracking # wasn't even updated after delivery. so be prepared for this thing to just show up folks.

gorgeous keyboard. really regret not getting a hotswap pcb right now because i want to build this ASAP but have to wait until after i lube some keys.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: tkh531 on Fri, 29 May 2020, 15:58:30
no update from DHL in more than 2 weeks now :blank:

I just got movement on my package. It took over 2.5 weeks for me.

glad to hear that! makes me less nervous  :thumb:

so, ironically, mine arrived today with no text message or anything! DHL's tracking # wasn't even updated after delivery. so be prepared for this thing to just show up folks.

gorgeous keyboard. really regret not getting a hotswap pcb right now because i want to build this ASAP but have to wait until after i lube some keys.

Was there no notification or update on DHL for your first or second tracking number?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Fri, 29 May 2020, 20:05:05
Finally put this puppy together.

Hotswap PCB built with MX Zilents lubed with tribosys 3203.

I think im in love<3 :D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: InediblePi on Fri, 29 May 2020, 21:16:19
Another cool find from zFrontier of someone modding their PCB to have a 4x LED on the top left key like the Think6.5. https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21612

Anyone know where one could buy PCB with 4 LEDs from?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Solotov on Fri, 29 May 2020, 23:04:31
Removed the reset button and now the pcb stop working. It used to work fine  :'(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sat, 30 May 2020, 07:51:38
Another cool find from zFrontier of someone modding their PCB to have a 4x LED on the top left key like the Think6.5. https://www.zfrontier.com/app/flow/21612

Anyone know where one could buy PCB with 4 LEDs from?
Looks like its from space65

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: r4bbl3d4bbl3 on Sat, 30 May 2020, 07:57:31
Every Fox Lab GB thread is so active, I love it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: merkz on Sat, 30 May 2020, 09:03:18
Mine finally shipped out and is in the states already just waiting eagerly for delivery!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dwarflemur on Sat, 30 May 2020, 14:50:22
Every Fox Lab GB thread is so active, I love it.

No order limit=lots of people joining. I do wish they had a site or something so you don’t have to sift through like five pages to find update.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: karmbit klacks on Sat, 30 May 2020, 15:37:02
Still haven't received my board but I've been trying to find some full build videos online, sadly can't seem to find anything and the only one I knew of from HugoKeys no longer links to the twitch vod. Has anyone else made one or know of one?

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/620299522
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Toastito on Sat, 30 May 2020, 15:58:18
Anyone here running into issues with their board? Didn't know where to post about it. I am getting two different key inputs when I actuate anything on the 12th and 13th column of the board. For example if I press the left bracket key "[" I get both brackets and if press the right bracket key "]" I'll also get both brackets.

Examples of the inputs are:
[][][][]
-=-=-=-=-=-=

I am using the 7u hot-swap board. I already updated the board with the hex file provided on the thread.

Any help is appreciated.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: PantoneC on Sat, 30 May 2020, 16:15:26
Just found this sound test enjoy  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: spring4k on Sat, 30 May 2020, 19:50:22
split backspace not working. how can i modify this wiring?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Zeldris23 on Sun, 31 May 2020, 04:45:17
Hello,

This is my first time getting a custom keyboard, does anyone got a guide especially in remapping keys ? for newbies
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: chrainer on Sun, 31 May 2020, 08:00:10
i was finally able to build my key65 last night. coming from a kbd75, i was blown away by how good a keyboard can sound and feel.

@spring4k also had some troubles, getting the split backspace to work, but managed to fix it eventually, by soldering in a small cable, from the top to the bottom pad. filling it up, as described by senter, didn't really work out for me, or more likely, my soldering skills ;-)

@zeldris23 flash the "via" qmk layout and you can remap the keys on the fly with the corresponding software
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Se1nZ on Sun, 31 May 2020, 09:05:39
split backspace not working. how can i modify this wiring?

its a known issue, you can PM senter or look a few page behind. he post something to fix it.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Zeldris23 on Sun, 31 May 2020, 13:55:12
i was finally able to build my key65 last night. coming from a kbd75, i was blown away by how good a keyboard can sound and feel.

@spring4k also had some troubles, getting the split backspace to work, but managed to fix it eventually, by soldering in a small cable, from the top to the bottom pad. filling it up, as described by senter, didn't really work out for me, or more likely, my soldering skills ;-)

@zeldris23 flash the "via" qmk layout and you can remap the keys on the fly with the corresponding software

Sorry but i do not understand..
I've already downloaded the VIA application but it didnt detect the keyboard so im kinda stuck to what to do next..
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Felt on Sun, 31 May 2020, 14:55:17
i was finally able to build my key65 last night. coming from a kbd75, i was blown away by how good a keyboard can sound and feel.

@spring4k also had some troubles, getting the split backspace to work, but managed to fix it eventually, by soldering in a small cable, from the top to the bottom pad. filling it up, as described by senter, didn't really work out for me, or more likely, my soldering skills ;-)

@zeldris23 flash the "via" qmk layout and you can remap the keys on the fly with the corresponding software

Sorry but i do not understand..
I've already downloaded the VIA application but it didnt detect the keyboard so im kinda stuck to what to do next..

I reprogrammed the board by downloading the correct json file, going to https://kbfirmware.com/ and uploading the json there. Then I remapped the keys I wanted on that website, hit compile after I was done to download the hex file, then use qmk to flash my board.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sun, 31 May 2020, 17:49:07
i was finally able to build my key65 last night. coming from a kbd75, i was blown away by how good a keyboard can sound and feel.

@spring4k also had some troubles, getting the split backspace to work, but managed to fix it eventually, by soldering in a small cable, from the top to the bottom pad. filling it up, as described by senter, didn't really work out for me, or more likely, my soldering skills ;-)

@zeldris23 flash the "via" qmk layout and you can remap the keys on the fly with the corresponding software

Sorry but i do not understand..
I've already downloaded the VIA application but it didnt detect the keyboard so im kinda stuck to what to do next..
You need to download the hex file from caniusevia, flash it using qmk. Run VIA and it will be detected.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: wil on Sun, 31 May 2020, 23:19:32
looking to buy a hotswap pcb if there are any people who got one and realized they don't need it. i'm in the US. ideally would be just $36 + shipping. pm me
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jmsp0511 on Mon, 01 June 2020, 08:20:48
Getting mine today, so excited!! Almost 3 weeks after shipping notice
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Mon, 01 June 2020, 10:25:00
I was going to flash my hotswap PCB with the VIA hex file but I wanted to confirm if this board uses the "atmega32u4" microcontroller? I could not find anything in this thread which specified the micro controller for the hotswap PCB

Edit - Nevermind. I was able to figure it out.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: toanta on Mon, 01 June 2020, 12:29:58
Getting mine today (according to DHL), been on hold since 4/28
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: toanta on Mon, 01 June 2020, 17:55:53
Who do I contact for missing items issue?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Mon, 01 June 2020, 19:06:24
Got and built mine today! Very happy with how it turned out. Thank you Senter!

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jmsp0511 on Mon, 01 June 2020, 19:31:07
I was going to flash my hotswap PCB with the VIA hex file but I wanted to confirm if this board uses the "atmega32u4" microcontroller? I could not find anything in this thread which specified the micro controller for the hotswap PCB

Edit - Nevermind. I was able to figure it out.

Did you figure out how to use VIA?
Is there a step by step instruction on how to do this?
I just use QMK to flash my boards, but want to port to VIA since I heard it's super convinient
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jmsp0511 on Mon, 01 June 2020, 19:42:39
Is it as simple as just loading the key65 VIA HEX on qmk toolbox and flashing it?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Mon, 01 June 2020, 20:14:41
Is it as simple as just loading the key65 VIA HEX on qmk toolbox and flashing it?
Yup pretty much what you've to do.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Mon, 01 June 2020, 20:16:35
Is it as simple as just loading the key65 VIA HEX on qmk toolbox and flashing it?
Yup pretty much what you've to do.

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It was pretty straightforward.

I downloaded the hex file for my PCB from the caniusevia.com webpage and flashed it to the board using QMK toolbox. Since it was my first time, i had to install all of the keyboard drivers but it worked without any issues. After the flash, I unplugged and replugged the board and it was detected by VIA to configure. Hope that helps.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: matrixzj on Mon, 01 June 2020, 21:02:31
Anyone here running into issues with their board? Didn't know where to post about it. I am getting two different key inputs when I actuate anything on the 12th and 13th column of the board. For example if I press the left bracket key "[" I get both brackets and if press the right bracket key "]" I'll also get both brackets.

Examples of the inputs are:
[][][][]
-=-=-=-=-=-=

I am using the 7u hot-swap board. I already updated the board with the hex file provided on the thread.

Any help is appreciated.

So the problem was occurred with whole 12th and 13th column ?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Mon, 01 June 2020, 21:20:51
The only thing that disappoints me is the split backspace issue

I thickened the switch pin with solder lead to be sure it will made contact on top the top solder pad. Once soldered at the bottom, Hoping the leads on the pin with soften and will also directly soldered on top solder pad. But it wont happen.

End key functional maybe 30% because most of the time, it failed. I dont want to keep opening the case as it may ruined the threads or reheating that may ruin the solder pads.

(https://i.imgur.com/N1Uf5WX.jpg)

While using jumper will make it work, but it shouldnt be the best option since this is a brand new pcb. They overlook it  :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Mufasa on Tue, 02 June 2020, 05:47:08
Loving the build quality! My only issue is I cannot get it to show in VIA, I have flashed with qmk.
[attach=1][attach=2][attach=3]
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Tue, 02 June 2020, 05:51:23
Loving the build quality! My only issue is I cannot get it to show in VIA, I have flashed with qmk.
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)
Download the correct hex file in caniusevia then flash in using qmk. Via will detect it after.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: RaxXo on Tue, 02 June 2020, 09:00:51
Really happy with the build quality. Not sure why people are complaining about no instructions, the thing basically assembled itself

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/420989878734422032/717373647781756958/image1.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/420989878734422032/717373647391817828/image0.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: noodleman on Tue, 02 June 2020, 09:08:56
After a long wait, finally got my hands on mine and love it!

(https://i.imgur.com/F7d0KQp.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/WcPIAwd.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jmsp0511 on Tue, 02 June 2020, 09:43:16
Ported my hotswap PCB to VIA, it was super simple.
When I first started VIA, all the factory default keys showed up, and changing the keymaps was really simple.

However, when I go to load the JSON file provided by Senter on the first page, it says "Could not load file: invalid data"
I wanted to load the JSON to see what the layout for the lighting buttons were.

Right now, the only thing I can do for the lighting is turn them on and off, and adjust brightness.
I also tried assigning the other keys under "QMK LIGHTING" and non of them really do anything.

Mine looks exactly like the picture Ipse posted on page 26, and dont know how to change the lighting... lol

If anyone knows how to assign perkey lighting, or knows how to toggle backlight modes, please let me know.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Tue, 02 June 2020, 12:05:59
Ported my hotswap PCB to VIA, it was super simple.
When I first started VIA, all the factory default keys showed up, and changing the keymaps was really simple.

However, when I go to load the JSON file provided by Senter on the first page, it says "Could not load file: invalid data"
I wanted to load the JSON to see what the layout for the lighting buttons were.

Right now, the only thing I can do for the lighting is turn them on and off, and adjust brightness.
I also tried assigning the other keys under "QMK LIGHTING" and non of them really do anything.

Mine looks exactly like the picture Ipse posted on page 26, and dont know how to change the lighting... lol

If anyone knows how to assign perkey lighting, or knows how to toggle backlight modes, please let me know.
Did you try using the hex file from the via webpage? It was peer reviewed and should have this functionality working.


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: merkz on Tue, 02 June 2020, 14:27:16
I can't get my board to be recognized by QMK, any tips?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: RaxXo on Tue, 02 June 2020, 14:32:12
I can't get my board to be recognized by QMK, any tips?

Do you have a reset button on your keyboard? When assembled, the reset button will be constantly pressed in, which means it won't be recognized. I disassembled my keyboard, plugged in the pcb with switches, hit the reset button and now qmk toolbox could recognize it. I then flashed, made sure I had a software reset, desoldered the reset button, and assembled.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jmsp0511 on Tue, 02 June 2020, 14:40:26
Ported my hotswap PCB to VIA, it was super simple.
When I first started VIA, all the factory default keys showed up, and changing the keymaps was really simple.

However, when I go to load the JSON file provided by Senter on the first page, it says "Could not load file: invalid data"
I wanted to load the JSON to see what the layout for the lighting buttons were.

Right now, the only thing I can do for the lighting is turn them on and off, and adjust brightness.
I also tried assigning the other keys under "QMK LIGHTING" and non of them really do anything.

Mine looks exactly like the picture Ipse posted on page 26, and dont know how to change the lighting... lol

If anyone knows how to assign perkey lighting, or knows how to toggle backlight modes, please let me know.
Did you try using the hex file from the via webpage? It was peer reviewed and should have this functionality working.


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Yeah, when I use that file in VIA or even try to load it on QMK Configuratos, it says the JSON is invalid.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Arithmetics on Tue, 02 June 2020, 22:24:17

here's mine :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 03 June 2020, 04:12:57
For those are still getting in trouble with firmware

1. You can not use the json files attached by Senter in QMK configurator. It is only usable here >> https://kbfirmware.com, download the hex file then flash at QMK tollbox

2. Easiest way is download the corresponding hex file in https://caniusevia.com/docs/download_firmware, flash in QMK toolbox. Then run VIA. The program will now detect your keyboard and start remapping.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 03 June 2020, 05:47:34
For those are still getting in trouble with firmware

1. You can not use the json files attached by Senter in QMK configurator. It is only usable here >> https://kbfirmware.com, download the hex file then flash at QMK tollbox

2. Easiest way is download the corresponding hex file in https://caniusevia.com/docs/download_firmware, flash in QMK toolbox. Then run VIA. The program will now detect your keyboard and start remapping.

Still waiting on a lot of parts to build mine but I already prepared my PCBs. Second step made this dumb easy.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 03 June 2020, 14:42:06
Update on the firmware:

I've tested the VIA firmware. It works great.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Wed, 03 June 2020, 15:02:06
Many people asked me if there will be a round 2 (no) and why not. I guess I need to give a public answer here.
Firstly, Key65 was not a limited GB. The IC was long enough that anyone care about the community would see it. The GB period was long enough that anyone wanted to join can join. It was a long journey to get the 600 kits manufactured and shipped in this special time. I'm deeply grateful for those who patiently waited and who had faith on me. I'm not interested in making their wait a little less meaningful by running a much quicker group buy for the same design.
Secondly, I'm not interested in running the group buys for the same design. I've mentioned it many times. I don't want to run a group buy if there's nothing new.





That being said, I do plan to run a group buy for Time 80% in the near future. The concept is the same but all the details have been improved. It will be a totally different Time. I'll IC it and collect feedbacks soon.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: toanta on Wed, 03 June 2020, 19:07:45
Update on the firmware:

I've tested the VIA firmware. It works great.
  • Download QMK toolbox (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_toolbox/releases).
  • Download the Key65 VIA firmware (the hex file) here: https://caniusevia.com/docs/download_firmware/
  • Flash the VIA hex file using the QMK toolbox. You need to press Fn+ESC before the flashing.
  • Download VIA: https://github.com/the-via/releases/releases
  • Open VIA then it should detect your keyboard.
I what you said and when I launch VIA i get the "searching for devices" for a while. Did I do something wrong? QMK Toolbox seemed like it worked. I'm using the hot swap board.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Wed, 03 June 2020, 19:39:06
Update on the firmware:

I've tested the VIA firmware. It works great.
  • Download QMK toolbox (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_toolbox/releases).
  • Download the Key65 VIA firmware (the hex file) here: https://caniusevia.com/docs/download_firmware/
  • Flash the VIA hex file using the QMK toolbox. You need to press Fn+ESC before the flashing.
  • Download VIA: https://github.com/the-via/releases/releases
  • Open VIA then it should detect your keyboard.
I what you said and when I launch VIA i get the "searching for devices" for a while. Did I do something wrong? QMK Toolbox seemed like it worked. I'm using the hot swap board.
Seems like you need to re-flash it since it would be automatically detected almost instantly by Via when you launch the app.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: toanta on Wed, 03 June 2020, 20:28:01
Update on the firmware:

I've tested the VIA firmware. It works great.
  • Download QMK toolbox (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_toolbox/releases).
  • Download the Key65 VIA firmware (the hex file) here: https://caniusevia.com/docs/download_firmware/
  • Flash the VIA hex file using the QMK toolbox. You need to press Fn+ESC before the flashing.
  • Download VIA: https://github.com/the-via/releases/releases
  • Open VIA then it should detect your keyboard.
I what you said and when I launch VIA i get the "searching for devices" for a while. Did I do something wrong? QMK Toolbox seemed like it worked. I'm using the hot swap board.
Seems like you need to re-flash it since it would be automatically detected almost instantly by Via when you launch the app.
I downloaded the "foxlab_key65_hotswap_default_b3810c59.hex" and tried to re-flash multiple times. I ended up getting to remap the keys using kbfirmware but I cant seem to get the back lighting to work.

EDIT: I figured it out through kbfirmware, thanks for the help!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jeel7004 on Wed, 03 June 2020, 21:15:41
While I wait to get the universal PCB that I ordered, does anyone in the US have a hot-swap plate that I could buy?
Or have the plate files been released so that I could order my own?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: vsrnth on Wed, 03 June 2020, 21:20:51
While I wait to get the universal PCB that I ordered, does anyone in the US have a hot-swap plate that I could buy?
Or have the plate files been released so that I could order my own?
Plate files have been released here :

https://fox-lab.github.io/gbs/Key-65.html

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: toanta on Wed, 03 June 2020, 22:04:47
Anyone have an extra E-White 7u plate they want to sell?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: matrixzj on Thu, 04 June 2020, 03:38:53
Update on the firmware:

I've tested the VIA firmware. It works great.
  • Download QMK toolbox (https://github.com/qmk/qmk_toolbox/releases).
  • Download the Key65 VIA firmware (the hex file) here: https://caniusevia.com/docs/download_firmware/
  • Flash the VIA hex file using the QMK toolbox. You need to press Fn+ESC before the flashing.
  • Download VIA: https://github.com/the-via/releases/releases
  • Open VIA then it should detect your keyboard.
I what you said and when I launch VIA i get the "searching for devices" for a while. Did I do something wrong? QMK Toolbox seemed like it worked. I'm using the hot swap board.
Seems like you need to re-flash it since it would be automatically detected almost instantly by Via when you launch the app.
I downloaded the "foxlab_key65_hotswap_default_b3810c59.hex" and tried to re-flash multiple times. I ended up getting to remap the keys using kbfirmware but I cant seem to get the back lighting to work.

EDIT: I figured it out through kbfirmware, thanks for the help!

please try foxlab_key65_hotswap_via.hex from https://caniusevia.com/docs/download_firmware
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: superpringles on Thu, 04 June 2020, 03:53:45
There's no RGB, only white lighting on the hotswap pcb right? Even though VIA has color choices they don't do anything yes?

Just double checking, seen talks of colors above in the thread.


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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jdbaker82 on Thu, 04 June 2020, 09:04:27
Can someone chime in on the sound of a titanium plate vs brass or alu? I just bought one of these from a friend and his came with a titanium plate and I don't know what to think of it
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: merkz on Thu, 04 June 2020, 17:51:40
Can someone chime in on the sound of a titanium plate vs brass or alu? I just bought one of these from a friend and his came with a titanium plate and I don't know what to think of it

I have the titanium  plate but the other options to compare it to. I have mine with black inks/titanium plate
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: johnny2304 on Thu, 04 June 2020, 22:53:51
mine  ;D
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Omnomnominous on Fri, 05 June 2020, 06:11:14
Mine arrived a few days ago - first custom mech and honestly so pleased with it!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kingjunguhn on Fri, 05 June 2020, 17:35:41
Many people asked me if there will be a round 2 (no) and why not. I guess I need to give a public answer here.
Firstly, Key65 was not a limited GB. The IC was long enough that anyone care about the community would see it. The GB period was long enough that anyone wanted to join can join. It was a long journey to get the 600 kits manufactured and shipped in this special time. I'm deeply grateful for those who patiently waited and who had faith on me. I'm not interested in making their wait a little less meaningful by running a much quicker group buy for the same design.
Secondly, I'm not interested in running the group buys for the same design. I've mentioned it many times. I don't want to run a group buy if there's nothing new.





That being said, I do plan to run a group buy for Time 80% in the near future. The concept is the same but all the details have been improved. It will be a totally different Time. I'll IC it and collect feedbacks soon.




Can we get the plate files instead?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Fri, 05 June 2020, 19:59:43
Can we get the plate files instead?

Check the bottom of this page https://fox-lab.github.io/gbs/Key-65.html
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: johnny2304 on Fri, 05 June 2020, 22:45:11
Mine build with Vintage Black and SA VoC
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jdbaker82 on Sat, 06 June 2020, 19:38:08
Can anyone tell me what the default function key is on the standard layout? Soldered board
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jdbaker82 on Sat, 06 June 2020, 20:10:50
Does anyone know if that physical reset button exists and is constantly pushing down would it prevent the function key from actually registering a key press of the fn key?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kurple on Sat, 06 June 2020, 20:18:17
Can anyone tell me what the default function key is on the standard layout? Soldered board
HS was right above the right arrow.

In regards to your other question, about the reset button, you should desolder if possible. Heat the joints from the top and pull with tweezers.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jdbaker82 on Sat, 06 June 2020, 20:34:05
Can anyone tell me what the default function key is on the standard layout? Soldered board
HS was right above the right arrow.

In regards to your other question, about the reset button, you should desolder if possible. Heat the joints from the top and pull with tweezers.

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Thank you but it's a soldered board does that mean there is no physical reset button that could be getting constantly pushed?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kurple on Sat, 06 June 2020, 20:37:26
Can anyone tell me what the default function key is on the standard layout? Soldered board
HS was right above the right arrow.

In regards to your other question, about the reset button, you should desolder if possible. Heat the joints from the top and pull with tweezers.

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Thank you but it's a soldered board does that mean there is no physical reset button that could be getting constantly pushed?
Yes, the solder pcb has one. You should desolder it and remove it bc it will get pressed through normal use and prevent your keyboard from functioning.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Faust_ on Sun, 07 June 2020, 02:23:20
Is there a limit on the cable length for this keyboard? Asking because I'm using a 6 feet cable with 6 inches of coils, and I keep experiencing disconnects on it while playing Valorant. Haven't run into this with any of my other keyboards though.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Sun, 07 June 2020, 05:37:29
Is there a limit on the cable length for this keyboard? Asking because I'm using a 6 feet cable with 6 inches of coils, and I keep experiencing disconnects on it while playing Valorant. Haven't run into this with any of my other keyboards though.

Did you remove the reset switch on the back of the board?  It sits right under your WASD keys and if its still there you could be pressing it while using the keyboard if you push down too hard.  Which will cause the kb to stop responding until you unplug and plug it back in.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jdbaker82 on Sun, 07 June 2020, 08:47:05
I have a problem my bottom right arrow key isn't working and I think I see why but I have no idea how or if this is fixable. The little black part of this thing in the picture is missing from the bottom right arrow.

Missing black thingy https://imgur.com/a/glQkHa7
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sun, 07 June 2020, 08:58:05
I have a problem my bottom right arrow key isn't working and I think I see why but I have no idea how or if this is fixable. The little black part of this thing in the picture is missing from the bottom right arrow.

Missing black thingy https://imgur.com/a/glQkHa7
Diode was stripped off. Its not easy to fix. You need to replace it or use jumper wires to tap on the correct trace

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Faust_ on Sun, 07 June 2020, 11:06:42
Is there a limit on the cable length for this keyboard? Asking because I'm using a 6 feet cable with 6 inches of coils, and I keep experiencing disconnects on it while playing Valorant. Haven't run into this with any of my other keyboards though.

Did you remove the reset switch on the back of the board?  It sits right under your WASD keys and if its still there you could be pressing it while using the keyboard if you push down too hard.  Which will cause the kb to stop responding until you unplug and plug it back in.

Is the button on the top of the PCB or the underside?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Sun, 07 June 2020, 11:18:45
Is there a limit on the cable length for this keyboard? Asking because I'm using a 6 feet cable with 6 inches of coils, and I keep experiencing disconnects on it while playing Valorant. Haven't run into this with any of my other keyboards though.

Did you remove the reset switch on the back of the board?  It sits right under your WASD keys and if its still there you could be pressing it while using the keyboard if you push down too hard.  Which will cause the kb to stop responding until you unplug and plug it back in.

Is the button on the top of the PCB or the underside?


2:43:26
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Sun, 07 June 2020, 12:42:34
Can somebody chime in which direction their stab wire is for the enter key, specifically a hot swap pcb? Since PCB mount stabs only go one direction its forcing my wire to be south facing so the rubber damper doesn't fit. Yea not a big deal, I can mod the dampener just curious. I'm looking at a pic of the solder PCB and its north facing which matches the cutout of the dampener.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jdbaker82 on Sun, 07 June 2020, 12:55:57
I have a problem my bottom right arrow key isn't working and I think I see why but I have no idea how or if this is fixable. The little black part of this thing in the picture is missing from the bottom right arrow.

Missing black thingy https://imgur.com/a/glQkHa7
Diode was stripped off. Its not easy to fix. You need to replace it or use jumper wires to tap on the correct trace

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I have no idea what I was doing by somehow I managed to fix this by desoldering the bad diode and stealing one from the switch where my key blocker is and was able to solder it to where the bad diode was and the arrow key is working again! This made my day I can't believe I was able to do this.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jmsp0511 on Sun, 07 June 2020, 13:09:04
Can somebody chime in which direction their stab wire is for the enter key, specifically a hot swap pcb? Since PCB mount stabs only go one direction its forcing my wire to be south facing so the rubber damper doesn't fit. Yea not a big deal, I can mod the dampener just curious. I'm looking at a pic of the solder PCB and its north facing which matches the cutout of the dampener.

Like you said, the PCB mount stabs go one direction, the hook part is the larger hole, and the screw-in part is the smaller hole.
You have the orientation of the stab correct, you just have to trim the rubber a bit, I had to do this and it fixed the issue.
Just take a box cutter and trim it so that the portion hitting the wire.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Sun, 07 June 2020, 14:37:13
Can somebody chime in which direction their stab wire is for the enter key, specifically a hot swap pcb? Since PCB mount stabs only go one direction its forcing my wire to be south facing so the rubber damper doesn't fit. Yea not a big deal, I can mod the dampener just curious. I'm looking at a pic of the solder PCB and its north facing which matches the cutout of the dampener.

Like you said, the PCB mount stabs go one direction, the hook part is the larger hole, and the screw-in part is the smaller hole.
You have the orientation of the stab correct, you just have to trim the rubber a bit, I had to do this and it fixed the issue.
Just take a box cutter and trim it so that the portion hitting the wire.

Cool, was just making sure I wasn't doing anything wrong. I'm using clip in stabs(c3 screw-in's incoming) so wasn't sure if orientation was different for screw ins but sounds the same so I'll just trim the rubber. Thanks
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Sun, 07 June 2020, 15:37:43
Finally built mine. Overall, super happy. This was my first group buy of this type so was a little skeptical, especially towards the end with covid but overall very solid board, so props to senter.

Some random thoughts..
 -The PC finish/polish is flawless. I have no other experience with PC boards but from what I've seen on other runs, it isn't easy to get a perfect finish. Even the inside is flawless, no machining marks, scratches, etc.
 -After seeing some early builds with the PC plate looking like swiss cheese I was worried but my plate is perfect. Alu plates looked good from the start but same idea, e-white finish is flawless.
 -Really wished I had gotten the key logo right blocker.  :'(
 -Gaskets were pretty straight forward, little skeptical of the longevity of the adhesive over time but there are a few extras in the pack.
 -Reset button was pre-trimmed but it still clicked when I was pressing the plate to test flex. NBD just de-soldered it and its been fine.
 -As mentioned above, the rubber damper isn't cut right for hotswap PCB stab direction but easily trimmable.
 -Just a personal issue/quirk, the typing angle+PC plate with no damper = LEDs straight into my eyeballs lol.
 -Reprograming was a super easy. Followed senters directions of flashing the hex from caniusavia with qmk tookbox and VIA worked perfectly (First time using VIA, but not QMK toolbox).

Some pics!


Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: anonthing00 on Sun, 07 June 2020, 16:44:35
Has anyone managed to get in contact with Senter about pcbs for people who want to build with split backspace? I send him my info but never heard back
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: PantoneC on Mon, 08 June 2020, 04:58:26
Has anyone managed to get in contact with Senter about pcbs for people who want to build with split backspace? I send him my info but never heard back

You can contact senter for a replacement solder pcb if yours is defective meaning solder pcb was in your original order by way of your original order email.
If you are looking to get a extra solder pcb your best bet is aftermarket.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kungszehon on Mon, 08 June 2020, 11:16:17
I PM'd senter about replacing my solder PCB due to the issue with split backspace just over 2 weeks ago, no response as of yet :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Riskymilk on Mon, 08 June 2020, 16:29:29
Finally arrived and all built!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Tue, 09 June 2020, 08:42:04
Anyone got key65 typing sound test but with marshmallow switches?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: toanta on Tue, 09 June 2020, 16:19:10
Is the plate file available?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dwarflemur on Tue, 09 June 2020, 16:35:53
Is the plate file available?

Bruh it's literally right there linked halfway up the page
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kungszehon on Wed, 10 June 2020, 00:27:29
Just an update, I got an email confirming my shipping address for a replacement solder PCB. Thanks senter for resolving the issue! :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 10 June 2020, 10:27:28
Just an update, I got an email confirming my shipping address for a replacement solder PCB. Thanks senter for resolving the issue! :)
Hoping to receive too!

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MK47 on Wed, 10 June 2020, 13:41:10
Got a PP plate cut by a local laser cutting service. It feels and sounds great.

(https://i.imgur.com/uYt2H7x.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ShadeDream on Wed, 10 June 2020, 16:28:49
My wife's all teal (gray weight) with zilents, GMK Mitolet and some JTK Hyperfuse accents. She's waiting for Skeletor for it.

(https://i.imgur.com/r8XxN9Y.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Wed, 10 June 2020, 18:32:03
Damn, the teal matches so well!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: bananafritters on Thu, 11 June 2020, 03:07:47
After using it for weeks, I would say I love the keyboard. I am satisfied with it Key65 definitely on par with at the value it promised. That being said, I need a better camera and definitely better keycap.

(https://i.imgur.com/qRVvCcR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GtEl86v.jpg)
Title: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Thu, 11 June 2020, 17:31:22
Has anyone come across an issue where the "end" key doesn’t register an upstroke? It’s weird since when I hit fn + end, the key works fine. This is on the hotswap board. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: cyanide814 on Wed, 17 June 2020, 17:20:30
The plate files are not the correct. The stabilizers for the Enter Key are in the wrong spot. It's for a ISO enter key I think. We need the correct plate files, It's also not registering the size on Laser Boost.  I have the hot swap version which is 7U, I want to get a couple plates made, I can't right now until this is fixed. I don't know how to get a hold of them. Hopefully they see it here.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 17 June 2020, 17:25:02
The plate files are not the correct. The stabilizers for the Enter Key are in the wrong spot. It's for a ISO enter key I think. We need the correct plate files, It's also not registering the size on Laser Boost.  I have the hot swap version which is 7U, I want to get a couple plates made, I can't right now until this is fixed. I don't know how to get a hold of them. Hopefully they see it here.
Did you check here?
 https://fox-lab.github.io/gbs/Key-65.html

Sent from my Mi 9T using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: cyanide814 on Wed, 17 June 2020, 17:31:05
Holy **** am I stupid as rocks. Just forget it. I clearly can't ****ing read. Thank you.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 17 June 2020, 20:02:54
Emailed and PMed Senter for the replacement PCB due to problems on split backspace. Still not getting any response  :-[
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: ConfuseBill on Wed, 17 June 2020, 20:09:56
Done building mine. Got to desolder the reset switch. PCB works fine with KBFirmware, QMK dan VIA. Very pleases so far
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jackie89 on Thu, 18 June 2020, 10:19:34
Finally got around to building mine, was waiting for the keycaps! Really happy with how things turned out.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Se1nZ on Thu, 18 June 2020, 23:49:26
anyone know what type of hex screw this case use?
M3?

UPDATE: Found it on Foxlab's website.

Case screws: M2.5x6
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: leexy on Fri, 19 June 2020, 02:37:45
Finally got around to building mine, was waiting for the keycaps! Really happy with how things turned out.

info on the cable?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Blehhh on Fri, 19 June 2020, 06:38:37
I missed the group buy, but will there be a round 2 of the key65?
thanks in advance and stay safe :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Fri, 19 June 2020, 07:00:24
I missed the group buy, but will there be a round 2 of the key65?
thanks in advance and stay safe :)
Nope

Sent from my Mi 9T using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: nu_types on Fri, 19 June 2020, 13:20:51
I haven't seen one posted anywhere (maybe I missed it) but has anyone shared an Alps plate file yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jdbaker82 on Fri, 19 June 2020, 16:37:06
When I plug my Key65 into my Laptop with QMK it is never recognized in QMK does anyone have any ideas on what can cause this or a possible fix?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Fri, 19 June 2020, 17:32:00
When I plug my Key65 into my Laptop with QMK it is never recognized in QMK does anyone have any ideas on what can cause this or a possible fix?
Press Fn+Esc then toolbox will detect it.

Sent from my Mi 9T using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: audax989 on Fri, 19 June 2020, 18:51:27
Built mine the other day! Its really one hell of a looker.

I plan to install an rgb strip on the bottom. Is that something that is configurable in via?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dumpling420 on Fri, 19 June 2020, 22:06:25
Does anybody know the maximum number of underglow LEDs the PCB supports?

Thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jackie89 on Sat, 20 June 2020, 15:17:26
Finally got around to building mine, was waiting for the keycaps! Really happy with how things turned out.

info on the cable?

It's a Laser themed cable by Badger Cables in Canada.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bn1Q0LIHp3o/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bn1Q0LIHp3o/)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: audax989 on Sat, 20 June 2020, 19:36:00

Made a quick typing test.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kipawazi on Mon, 22 June 2020, 09:07:07
Hello,

I am annoyed because my pcb does not work, I contacted Senter and he told me to send everything back, pcb, case, everything but I don't want because only the pcb is broken and if I send everything back, I lose everything so I told him that I just need a working pcb, I'm ok to send the pcb back to him but only the pcb.

I sent him 3 messages in almost 1 month and he does not answer me while he has already answered on this post in this interval...
I don't know what to do if he doesn't answer me...
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Mon, 22 June 2020, 11:35:39
Hello,

I am annoyed because my pcb does not work, I contacted Senter and he told me to send everything back, pcb, case, everything but I don't want because only the pcb is broken and if I send everything back, I lose everything so I told him that I just need a working pcb, I'm ok to send the pcb back to him but only the pcb.

I sent him 3 messages in almost 1 month and he does not answer me while he has already answered on this post in this interval...
I don't know what to do if he doesn't answer me...

For the quality issues of your kit, I don't feel comfortable to sell it out.
I can issue a full refund including the shipping cost, as I mentioned before. This is the best and only solution I can provide right now.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Dennyroxsox on Mon, 22 June 2020, 12:46:29
Assembled one yesterday - It's amazing! Thank you Senter!

(https://i.imgur.com/TdOXGI5.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kipawazi on Tue, 23 June 2020, 11:22:11
Hello,

I am annoyed because my pcb does not work, I contacted Senter and he told me to send everything back, pcb, case, everything but I don't want because only the pcb is broken and if I send everything back, I lose everything so I told him that I just need a working pcb, I'm ok to send the pcb back to him but only the pcb.

I sent him 3 messages in almost 1 month and he does not answer me while he has already answered on this post in this interval...
I don't know what to do if he doesn't answer me...

For the quality issues of your kit, I don't feel comfortable to sell it out.
I can issue a full refund including the shipping cost, as I mentioned before. This is the best and only solution I can provide right now.

@senter Thank you for your fast response.

I understand that the quality issues does not satisfy you but the lack of coating on the plate is very minor and invisible and the scratch caused by the tooling is already fixed with paste and paint.
These are not big issues for me, once the keyboard is assembled, everything is invisible.

I like this keyboard, I was very impatient to receive it and I don't want loose it.
I want use it. And I can't because I don't have a working pcb...

So no, I don't want a full refund, I need only a pcb exchange.

I wish I could use it one day.

Thank you.

@all Worst case scenario, does anyone know of a compatible pcb? A lot of people are already looking for a pcb on r/mechmarket... It's crazy...

Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: cyanide814 on Tue, 23 June 2020, 19:29:45
I soldered LED Light strips to my hotswap board

I only did one strip which had 8 LEDs

I decided I was going to wire one more strip of 8. So I connected another strip using 3 wires as an extension to get the desired position. After a lot of back and forth.

Nothing worked, the 2nd strip never turned on.

Frustrated enough, I decided to redo the whole thing, make one long strip of 16 LEDs, soldered it all together, when I finally turned it on, only 8 of them lit up.

Not only that if I moved the strip around they would turn off until I unplugged and turned it back on. (Not sure if I have a bad solder, I'm still new to soldering)

But my question is, why is this PCB only allowing 8 LEDS?

I know its not the strip it self, because I cut multiple different strips to test out different things. It just wouldn't allow more than 8.

I tried a different USB cable, but I don't think that is the issue.

This has been quite frustrating, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Tue, 23 June 2020, 19:54:55
Hello,

I am annoyed because my pcb does not work, I contacted Senter and he told me to send everything back, pcb, case, everything but I don't want because only the pcb is broken and if I send everything back, I lose everything so I told him that I just need a working pcb, I'm ok to send the pcb back to him but only the pcb.

I sent him 3 messages in almost 1 month and he does not answer me while he has already answered on this post in this interval...
I don't know what to do if he doesn't answer me...

For the quality issues of your kit, I don't feel comfortable to sell it out.
I can issue a full refund including the shipping cost, as I mentioned before. This is the best and only solution I can provide right now.

@senter Thank you for your fast response.

I understand that the quality issues does not satisfy you but the lack of coating on the plate is very minor and invisible and the scratch caused by the tooling is already fixed with paste and paint.
These are not big issues for me, once the keyboard is assembled, everything is invisible.

I like this keyboard, I was very impatient to receive it and I don't want loose it.
I want use it. And I can't because I don't have a working pcb...

So no, I don't want a full refund, I need only a pcb exchange.

I wish I could use it one day.

Thank you.

@all Worst case scenario, does anyone know of a compatible pcb? A lot of people are already looking for a pcb on r/mechmarket... It's crazy...

Thanks.

Tada68, DZ65, KBD67, KB67MKII, NK65 are non-centered USB port.

Best thing to do is make buying post at rmm

Mine too have issue on PCB (split backspace). Like you, Senter is also ignoring my email and private message.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 24 June 2020, 06:02:27
Got around to build mine today. I got myself a POM plate and it's real nice in both look and feel. Will post some photos in the future.

Great keyboard, thank you senter!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Wed, 24 June 2020, 08:39:11
I soldered LED Light strips to my hotswap board

I only did one strip which had 8 LEDs

I decided I was going to wire one more strip of 8. So I connected another strip using 3 wires as an extension to get the desired position. After a lot of back and forth.

Nothing worked, the 2nd strip never turned on.

Frustrated enough, I decided to redo the whole thing, make one long strip of 16 LEDs, soldered it all together, when I finally turned it on, only 8 of them lit up.

Not only that if I moved the strip around they would turn off until I unplugged and turned it back on. (Not sure if I have a bad solder, I'm still new to soldering)

But my question is, why is this PCB only allowing 8 LEDS?

I know its not the strip it self, because I cut multiple different strips to test out different things. It just wouldn't allow more than 8.

I tried a different USB cable, but I don't think that is the issue.

This has been quite frustrating, any help would be greatly appreciated.
You're going to have edit the firmware to allow more LEDs. I think. I haven't attached them myself but there is an option on kbfirmware to set the number of LEDs. Or you can edit the config.h on QMK and rebuild the firmware.

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: cyanide814 on Wed, 24 June 2020, 09:09:51
I soldered LED Light strips to my hotswap board

I only did one strip which had 8 LEDs

I decided I was going to wire one more strip of 8. So I connected another strip using 3 wires as an extension to get the desired position. After a lot of back and forth.

Nothing worked, the 2nd strip never turned on.

Frustrated enough, I decided to redo the whole thing, make one long strip of 16 LEDs, soldered it all together, when I finally turned it on, only 8 of them lit up.

Not only that if I moved the strip around they would turn off until I unplugged and turned it back on. (Not sure if I have a bad solder, I'm still new to soldering)

But my question is, why is this PCB only allowing 8 LEDS?

I know its not the strip it self, because I cut multiple different strips to test out different things. It just wouldn't allow more than 8.

I tried a different USB cable, but I don't think that is the issue.

This has been quite frustrating, any help would be greatly appreciated.
You're going to have edit the firmware to allow more LEDs. I think. I haven't attached them myself but there is an option on kbfirmware to set the number of LEDs. Or you can edit the config.h on QMK and rebuild the firmware.

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

Bro.. thank you so much. I literally had no idea it was just a stupid setting. It was driving me insane man. Welp, back to soldering 2 strips.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kurple on Wed, 24 June 2020, 09:20:38
Hello,

I am annoyed because my pcb does not work, I contacted Senter and he told me to send everything back, pcb, case, everything but I don't want because only the pcb is broken and if I send everything back, I lose everything so I told him that I just need a working pcb, I'm ok to send the pcb back to him but only the pcb.

I sent him 3 messages in almost 1 month and he does not answer me while he has already answered on this post in this interval...
I don't know what to do if he doesn't answer me...

For the quality issues of your kit, I don't feel comfortable to sell it out.
I can issue a full refund including the shipping cost, as I mentioned before. This is the best and only solution I can provide right now.

@senter Thank you for your fast response.

I understand that the quality issues does not satisfy you but the lack of coating on the plate is very minor and invisible and the scratch caused by the tooling is already fixed with paste and paint.
These are not big issues for me, once the keyboard is assembled, everything is invisible.

I like this keyboard, I was very impatient to receive it and I don't want loose it.
I want use it. And I can't because I don't have a working pcb...

So no, I don't want a full refund, I need only a pcb exchange.

I wish I could use it one day.

Thank you.

@all Worst case scenario, does anyone know of a compatible pcb? A lot of people are already looking for a pcb on r/mechmarket... It's crazy...

Thanks.

Tada68, DZ65, KBD67, KB67MKII, NK65 are non-centered USB port.

Best thing to do is make buying post at rmm

Mine too have issue on PCB (split backspace). Like you, Senter is also ignoring my email and private message.
Have you tried the fix for split bs on soldered pcbs? Dropping in solder to connect or slipping in a millmax socket? There's more info earlier in the thread.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Wed, 24 June 2020, 09:25:23
Hello,

I am annoyed because my pcb does not work, I contacted Senter and he told me to send everything back, pcb, case, everything but I don't want because only the pcb is broken and if I send everything back, I lose everything so I told him that I just need a working pcb, I'm ok to send the pcb back to him but only the pcb.

I sent him 3 messages in almost 1 month and he does not answer me while he has already answered on this post in this interval...
I don't know what to do if he doesn't answer me...

For the quality issues of your kit, I don't feel comfortable to sell it out.
I can issue a full refund including the shipping cost, as I mentioned before. This is the best and only solution I can provide right now.

@senter Thank you for your fast response.

I understand that the quality issues does not satisfy you but the lack of coating on the plate is very minor and invisible and the scratch caused by the tooling is already fixed with paste and paint.
These are not big issues for me, once the keyboard is assembled, everything is invisible.

I like this keyboard, I was very impatient to receive it and I don't want loose it.
I want use it. And I can't because I don't have a working pcb...

So no, I don't want a full refund, I need only a pcb exchange.

I wish I could use it one day.

Thank you.

@all Worst case scenario, does anyone know of a compatible pcb? A lot of people are already looking for a pcb on r/mechmarket... It's crazy...

Thanks.

Tada68, DZ65, KBD67, KB67MKII, NK65 are non-centered USB port.

Best thing to do is make buying post at rmm

Mine too have issue on PCB (split backspace). Like you, Senter is also ignoring my email and private message.
Have you tried the fix for split bs on soldered pcbs? Dropping in solder to connect or slipping in a millmax socket? There's more info earlier in the thread.

Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk
Unfortunately I dont have millmax or holtites.

Yes I tried that. But key most of the time fails. There is position where to press to make it work.

Sent from my Mi 9T using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: cyanide814 on Wed, 24 June 2020, 11:48:56
I soldered LED Light strips to my hotswap board

I only did one strip which had 8 LEDs

I decided I was going to wire one more strip of 8. So I connected another strip using 3 wires as an extension to get the desired position. After a lot of back and forth.

Nothing worked, the 2nd strip never turned on.

Frustrated enough, I decided to redo the whole thing, make one long strip of 16 LEDs, soldered it all together, when I finally turned it on, only 8 of them lit up.

Not only that if I moved the strip around they would turn off until I unplugged and turned it back on. (Not sure if I have a bad solder, I'm still new to soldering)

But my question is, why is this PCB only allowing 8 LEDS?

I know its not the strip it self, because I cut multiple different strips to test out different things. It just wouldn't allow more than 8.

I tried a different USB cable, but I don't think that is the issue.

This has been quite frustrating, any help would be greatly appreciated.
You're going to have edit the firmware to allow more LEDs. I think. I haven't attached them myself but there is an option on kbfirmware to set the number of LEDs. Or you can edit the config.h on QMK and rebuild the firmware.

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

Also, I got the keyboard flashed, going to solder later. But I noticed now that I enabled 16 LEDs using KBDfans. It won't let me use the QMK configurator now, or use VIA. It seems I'm only locked to using KBDfans now. I could be wrong, let me know. But when looking around it seemed like KBDfans was the only place where I could change the LED light numbers. I couldn't find it on QMK configuator unless I was on the wrong website.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Wed, 24 June 2020, 12:13:48
I soldered LED Light strips to my hotswap board

I only did one strip which had 8 LEDs

I decided I was going to wire one more strip of 8. So I connected another strip using 3 wires as an extension to get the desired position. After a lot of back and forth.

Nothing worked, the 2nd strip never turned on.

Frustrated enough, I decided to redo the whole thing, make one long strip of 16 LEDs, soldered it all together, when I finally turned it on, only 8 of them lit up.

Not only that if I moved the strip around they would turn off until I unplugged and turned it back on. (Not sure if I have a bad solder, I'm still new to soldering)

But my question is, why is this PCB only allowing 8 LEDS?

I know its not the strip it self, because I cut multiple different strips to test out different things. It just wouldn't allow more than 8.

I tried a different USB cable, but I don't think that is the issue.

This has been quite frustrating, any help would be greatly appreciated.
You're going to have edit the firmware to allow more LEDs. I think. I haven't attached them myself but there is an option on kbfirmware to set the number of LEDs. Or you can edit the config.h on QMK and rebuild the firmware.

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

Also, I got the keyboard flashed, going to solder later. But I noticed now that I enabled 16 LEDs using KBDfans. It won't let me use the QMK configurator now, or use VIA. It seems I'm only locked to using KBDfans now. I could be wrong, let me know. But when looking around it seemed like KBDfans was the only place where I could change the LED light numbers. I couldn't find it on QMK configuator unless I was on the wrong website.

I'm assuming you mean kbfirmware not kbdfans.
So you will have to clone the github repo for QMK and then go find the config.h for your board universal or hotswap.
Then you will build it with "make foxlab/key65/universal:via"
Flash that firmware and you should get it working with VIA again.

Here is a firmware I just now built for you, let me know if it supports more LEDs or not because I can't test myself.
Flash whichever one you have. You may have to reset EEPROM through qmk toolbox if the firmware doesn't take.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: cyanide814 on Wed, 24 June 2020, 13:54:02
I soldered LED Light strips to my hotswap board

I only did one strip which had 8 LEDs

I decided I was going to wire one more strip of 8. So I connected another strip using 3 wires as an extension to get the desired position. After a lot of back and forth.

Nothing worked, the 2nd strip never turned on.

Frustrated enough, I decided to redo the whole thing, make one long strip of 16 LEDs, soldered it all together, when I finally turned it on, only 8 of them lit up.

Not only that if I moved the strip around they would turn off until I unplugged and turned it back on. (Not sure if I have a bad solder, I'm still new to soldering)

But my question is, why is this PCB only allowing 8 LEDS?

I know its not the strip it self, because I cut multiple different strips to test out different things. It just wouldn't allow more than 8.

I tried a different USB cable, but I don't think that is the issue.

This has been quite frustrating, any help would be greatly appreciated.
You're going to have edit the firmware to allow more LEDs. I think. I haven't attached them myself but there is an option on kbfirmware to set the number of LEDs. Or you can edit the config.h on QMK and rebuild the firmware.

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

Also, I got the keyboard flashed, going to solder later. But I noticed now that I enabled 16 LEDs using KBDfans. It won't let me use the QMK configurator now, or use VIA. It seems I'm only locked to using KBDfans now. I could be wrong, let me know. But when looking around it seemed like KBDfans was the only place where I could change the LED light numbers. I couldn't find it on QMK configuator unless I was on the wrong website.

I'm assuming you mean kbfirmware not kbdfans.
So you will have to clone the github repo for QMK and then go find the config.h for your board universal or hotswap.
Then you will build it with "make foxlab/key65/universal:via"
Flash that firmware and you should get it working with VIA again.

Here is a firmware I just now built for you, let me know if it supports more LEDs or not because I can't test myself.
Flash whichever one you have. You may have to reset EEPROM through qmk toolbox if the firmware doesn't take.

Awesome! So I soldered in the 2nd set of LEDs. I did get all 16 to work! It was just a stupid ass setting the whole time! I was correct the very first time I did this, but got frustrated for no reason. And yes I did mean KB not KBD. I got the hex file flashed correct from the one I did. I'll check out the one you just linked to try to get VIA working. I necessarily don't need it right now. The only other thing I was having trouble with was getting the NKEY rollover enabled.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: cyanide814 on Wed, 24 June 2020, 14:06:23
Here is the picture of the result. Pretty happy. But yeah KB and VIA wasn't allowing me to enable NKEY rollover. So I'll figure that out in the future. Not sure if I really need it enabled or not, and not really sure if I need VIA now that I have ever thing that I need. So well see.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: audax989 on Thu, 25 June 2020, 00:27:45
Here is the picture of the result. Pretty happy. But yeah KB and VIA wasn't allowing me to enable NKEY rollover. So I'll figure that out in the future. Not sure if I really need it enabled or not, and not really sure if I need VIA now that I have ever thing that I need. So well see.

I have a strip ordered for this! Would you mind sharing your config file to make em all work?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Thu, 25 June 2020, 01:19:56
Hello,

I am annoyed because my pcb does not work, I contacted Senter and he told me to send everything back, pcb, case, everything but I don't want because only the pcb is broken and if I send everything back, I lose everything so I told him that I just need a working pcb, I'm ok to send the pcb back to him but only the pcb.

I sent him 3 messages in almost 1 month and he does not answer me while he has already answered on this post in this interval...
I don't know what to do if he doesn't answer me...

For the quality issues of your kit, I don't feel comfortable to sell it out.
I can issue a full refund including the shipping cost, as I mentioned before. This is the best and only solution I can provide right now.

@senter Thank you for your fast response.

I understand that the quality issues does not satisfy you but the lack of coating on the plate is very minor and invisible and the scratch caused by the tooling is already fixed with paste and paint.
These are not big issues for me, once the keyboard is assembled, everything is invisible.

I like this keyboard, I was very impatient to receive it and I don't want loose it.
I want use it. And I can't because I don't have a working pcb...

So no, I don't want a full refund, I need only a pcb exchange.

I wish I could use it one day.

Thank you.

@all Worst case scenario, does anyone know of a compatible pcb? A lot of people are already looking for a pcb on r/mechmarket... It's crazy...

Thanks.

Tada68, DZ65, KBD67, KB67MKII, NK65 are non-centered USB port.

Best thing to do is make buying post at rmm

Mine too have issue on PCB (split backspace). Like you, Senter is also ignoring my email and private message.

You could maybe use a RAMA works PCB or a Keycult pcb I'm sure if they'll be any clearance issues with the case, so you'll have to measure that out since those pcb's have daughter boards.

Though I myself am in the middle of working on a pcb that'll fit the case, simply because I'd like rgb and ws2812 and 6028 leds. I have absolutely no eta because I want to make sure it's perfect and haven't actually designed a keyboard pcb before.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Thu, 25 June 2020, 05:29:39
Anyone encountered this issue where caps lock button is not working? Shorting it didn't work and sometimes when the board is plugged in the key is spammed.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: cyanide814 on Thu, 25 June 2020, 08:53:54
Hello,

I am annoyed because my pcb does not work, I contacted Senter and he told me to send everything back, pcb, case, everything but I don't want because only the pcb is broken and if I send everything back, I lose everything so I told him that I just need a working pcb, I'm ok to send the pcb back to him but only the pcb.

I sent him 3 messages in almost 1 month and he does not answer me while he has already answered on this post in this interval...
I don't know what to do if he doesn't answer me...

For the quality issues of your kit, I don't feel comfortable to sell it out.
I can issue a full refund including the shipping cost, as I mentioned before. This is the best and only solution I can provide right now.

@senter Thank you for your fast response.

I understand that the quality issues does not satisfy you but the lack of coating on the plate is very minor and invisible and the scratch caused by the tooling is already fixed with paste and paint.
These are not big issues for me, once the keyboard is assembled, everything is invisible.

I like this keyboard, I was very impatient to receive it and I don't want loose it.
I want use it. And I can't because I don't have a working pcb...

So no, I don't want a full refund, I need only a pcb exchange.

I wish I could use it one day.

Thank you.

@all Worst case scenario, does anyone know of a compatible pcb? A lot of people are already looking for a pcb on r/mechmarket... It's crazy...

Thanks.

Tada68, DZ65, KBD67, KB67MKII, NK65 are non-centered USB port.

Best thing to do is make buying post at rmm

Mine too have issue on PCB (split backspace). Like you, Senter is also ignoring my email and private message.

You could maybe use a RAMA works PCB or a Keycult pcb I'm sure if they'll be any clearance issues with the case, so you'll have to measure that out since those pcb's have daughter boards.

Though I myself am in the middle of working on a pcb that'll fit the case, simply because I'd like rgb and ws2812 and 6028 leds. I have absolutely no eta because I want to make sure it's perfect and haven't actually designed a keyboard pcb before.

The guy above me made one that can possible work with VIA. Mine doesn't. Mine you have to flash through QMK. I just set up the file on KBfirmware and went to settings to allow more LEDs.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Fri, 26 June 2020, 00:37:45

The guy above me made one that can possible work with VIA. Mine doesn't. Mine you have to flash through QMK. I just set up the file on KBfirmware and went to settings to allow more LEDs.

I already have a strip, just don't enjoy the look. It works perfectly with the VIA flash that's provided by VIA because the QMK firmware has 8 LED RGB undergrowth set
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: CodeMayhem on Fri, 26 June 2020, 21:52:13
Anyone encountered this issue where caps lock button is not working? Shorting it didn't work and sometimes when the board is plugged in the key is spammed.

my caps lock won't work on the default layer. if i put it on layer 1 then it does.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Fri, 26 June 2020, 22:12:43
Anyone encountered this issue where caps lock button is not working? Shorting it didn't work and sometimes when the board is plugged in the key is spammed.

my caps lock won't work on the default layer. if i put it on layer 1 then it does.
Both of you are using hotswap pcb?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Fri, 26 June 2020, 22:25:11
Anyone encountered this issue where caps lock button is not working? Shorting it didn't work and sometimes when the board is plugged in the key is spammed.

my caps lock won't work on the default layer. if i put it on layer 1 then it does.

Oo that's weird, and you're using the default layout configuration? Soldered PCB too I take it?

Anyone encountered this issue where caps lock button is not working? Shorting it didn't work and sometimes when the board is plugged in the key is spammed.

my caps lock won't work on the default layer. if i put it on layer 1 then it does.
Both of you are using hotswap pcb?


No, solder pcb
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: CodeMayhem on Fri, 26 June 2020, 22:34:06
Anyone encountered this issue where caps lock button is not working? Shorting it didn't work and sometimes when the board is plugged in the key is spammed.

my caps lock won't work on the default layer. if i put it on layer 1 then it does.
Both of you are using hotswap pcb?

i got mine working now. not sure why it wasn't working earlier. just made a fresh hex file.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Fri, 26 June 2020, 22:45:30
Anyone encountered this issue where caps lock button is not working? Shorting it didn't work and sometimes when the board is plugged in the key is spammed.

my caps lock won't work on the default layer. if i put it on layer 1 then it does.
Both of you are using hotswap pcb?

i got mine working now. not sure why it wasn't working earlier. just made a fresh hex file.

Lol ok. Looks like I got a faulty pcb.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Sat, 27 June 2020, 00:48:43
Anyone encountered this issue where caps lock button is not working? Shorting it didn't work and sometimes when the board is plugged in the key is spammed.

my caps lock won't work on the default layer. if i put it on layer 1 then it does.
Both of you are using hotswap pcb?

i got mine working now. not sure why it wasn't working earlier. just made a fresh hex file.

Lol ok. Looks like I got a faulty pcb.
Sometimes I need to reset my EEPROM for random problems. Try that with qmk toolbox and then flash a new hex

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: spring4k on Sat, 27 June 2020, 00:57:14
Here is the picture of the result. Pretty happy. But yeah KB and VIA wasn't allowing me to enable NKEY rollover. So I'll figure that out in the future. Not sure if I really need it enabled or not, and not really sure if I need VIA now that I have ever thing that I need. So well see.

Can you take a picture of the bottom of the PCB and show it? I wonder how I installed RGB.

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Sat, 27 June 2020, 03:05:59
Anyone encountered this issue where caps lock button is not working? Shorting it didn't work and sometimes when the board is plugged in the key is spammed.

my caps lock won't work on the default layer. if i put it on layer 1 then it does.
Both of you are using hotswap pcb?

i got mine working now. not sure why it wasn't working earlier. just made a fresh hex file.

Lol ok. Looks like I got a faulty pcb.
Sometimes I need to reset my EEPROM for random problems. Try that with qmk toolbox and then flash a new hex

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

Won't work. I tested with tweezer the caps lock key won't respond. Appreciate the suggestion tho.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Ipse on Sat, 27 June 2020, 05:30:20
Here is the picture of the result. Pretty happy. But yeah KB and VIA wasn't allowing me to enable NKEY rollover. So I'll figure that out in the future. Not sure if I really need it enabled or not, and not really sure if I need VIA now that I have ever thing that I need. So well see.

Can you take a picture of the bottom of the PCB and show it? I wonder how I installed RGB.

The VOG pads connect to your led strip. V for 5V and O for Data and G for ground. That's pretty much it really. There might be some spacing issues so just make sure you wire stuff nicely.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: leexy on Sat, 27 June 2020, 09:00:12
my e-teal key65

(https://i.imgur.com/8oztIQ0.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Mechalomania on Sat, 27 June 2020, 13:14:13
So I might be the only person that wanted to add backlit LEDs to my keyboard, but in the case that someone else has tried, were you able to get it to work?  The LEDS wouldn't turn on for me (one did briefly, then faded almost immediately).  I've tried on 2 PCBs (the original I received and the replacement due to the split backspace issue), and neither of them turned the lights on.  I tried adjusting the settings with the original files on kbfirmware and the newer files in VIA. 

Hopefully I'm not wrong, but I'm ruling out soldering-error since I was able to install LEDs on another keyboard without issue and I tested multiple slots to be sure that the issue is consistent.  It's not the end of the world if it won't work, but it would've been nice to have for my personal build.

7/19/20 Update:  In case anyone else sees this and wonders if there is an update, I'm just a big dum doodoo head and it works fine.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DuellM on Sat, 27 June 2020, 14:26:07
Your Teal Keeb Is Beautiful  ^-^
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Sat, 27 June 2020, 20:04:49
Here's mine.

(https://i.imgur.com/p6BMu8S.jpg)

I finally fixed the split backspace. Since the solder pad is wide (due to alps compatible), I inserted the tip of solder iron and the lead to make sure the pad from top will make contact with the pin.


Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Mon, 29 June 2020, 14:24:17
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141

I'm not sure if it was intentional or not but you're lighting the caps lock led when it's off, instead of the usual when it's on.

Not what I had intended :)) Is this the case on both the universal and hotswap?

Yea it is. Fixed it up myself but I wasn't sure if it was intentional. I haven't tested the universal sicne I don't have led's on it, but I noticed it's the same function.

Could you fix the matrix for the universal board? I submitted a issue on github since the backspace is set to the wrong key.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MxBlue on Mon, 29 June 2020, 17:16:34
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141

I'm not sure if it was intentional or not but you're lighting the caps lock led when it's off, instead of the usual when it's on.

Not what I had intended :)) Is this the case on both the universal and hotswap?

Yea it is. Fixed it up myself but I wasn't sure if it was intentional. I haven't tested the universal sicne I don't have led's on it, but I noticed it's the same function.

Could you fix the matrix for the universal board? I submitted a issue on github since the backspace is set to the wrong key.

Sure, mind linking your issue? I can't find it on the QMK github.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Mon, 29 June 2020, 17:19:09
I've gone ahead and created a PR for the Key 65 PCBs to QMK and VIA. Since I don't own a hotswap PCB, would appreciate someone testing the Hotswap variants and leaving a comment on the PRs with test results.

https://github.com/qmk/qmk_firmware/pull/9116
https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/pull/141

I'm not sure if it was intentional or not but you're lighting the caps lock led when it's off, instead of the usual when it's on.

Not what I had intended :)) Is this the case on both the universal and hotswap?

Yea it is. Fixed it up myself but I wasn't sure if it was intentional. I haven't tested the universal sicne I don't have led's on it, but I noticed it's the same function.

Could you fix the matrix for the universal board? I submitted a issue on github since the backspace is set to the wrong key.

Sure, mind linking your issue? I can't find it on the QMK github.

Here is the issue. https://github.com/the-via/keyboards/issues/186
I don't think it's a QMK issue, I just think ipse just needs to edit the matrix to select the correct backspace. Should be an easy fix.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Instinct on Mon, 29 June 2020, 22:53:03
Is there a fix to make NKRO work on the universal VIA firmware?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Gumberculese on Wed, 01 July 2020, 15:15:57
Here is the picture of the result. Pretty happy. But yeah KB and VIA wasn't allowing me to enable NKEY rollover. So I'll figure that out in the future. Not sure if I really need it enabled or not, and not really sure if I need VIA now that I have ever thing that I need. So well see.

That looks great!  What LED strips did you use for that?   Got a link?  Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Cujo96 on Wed, 01 July 2020, 23:49:51
Anyone know whereabouts the ALPS Plate file is?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Tyson on Sun, 12 July 2020, 15:56:16
Has anyone else experienced any bowing issues with a polycarb bottom piece, I feel like there shouldn't be gaskets stuck to the bottom of the mid piece. Here's the issue I ran into from my stream building the board. https://clips.twitch.tv/HappyDaintyVanillaCeilingCat
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Scottw on Tue, 14 July 2020, 19:11:27
Have the non-iso plate files been released? Anyone know if there are any plans to release them?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Fnzzy on Wed, 15 July 2020, 04:32:07
Have the non-iso plate files been released? Anyone know if there are any plans to release them?

https://fox-lab.github.io/gbs/Key-65.html
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Wed, 15 July 2020, 23:19:56
Has anyone else experienced any bowing issues with a polycarb bottom piece, I feel like there shouldn't be gaskets stuck to the bottom of the mid piece. Here's the issue I ran into from my stream building the board. https://clips.twitch.tv/HappyDaintyVanillaCeilingCat

Did you get this worked out? I skimmed thru your stream and looks like you double gasketed the base and mid piece? You don't need gaskets on the bottom of the mid piece which is why you didn't need to cut your own. You should have had 2 extra long pieces. I'm 98% sure anyway lol, based on building my own. I've never seen anything that was meant to be rubber on rubber.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: mg53 on Thu, 16 July 2020, 00:10:48
Has anyone else experienced any bowing issues with a polycarb bottom piece, I feel like there shouldn't be gaskets stuck to the bottom of the mid piece. Here's the issue I ran into from my stream building the board. https://clips.twitch.tv/HappyDaintyVanillaCeilingCat

Did you get this worked out? I skimmed thru your stream and looks like you double gasketed the base and mid piece? You don't need gaskets on the bottom of the mid piece which is why you didn't need to cut your own. You should have had 2 extra long pieces. I'm 98% sure anyway lol, based on building my own. I've never seen anything that was meant to be rubber on rubber.

Yea, this sounds right. You put the 6 long gaskets on the bottom piece, and no gaskets on the underside of the middle. That is what I did too and have no issues with the polycarb bottom bowing.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Tyson on Thu, 16 July 2020, 01:38:13
 I actually removed the gaskets from the bottom of the middle layer and it resolved the issue the board doesn't bow anymore. Thanks guys for your replies :)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kookiekurls on Thu, 16 July 2020, 09:58:22
On the hotswap board, the enter key stabs are south facing, which causes an issue with the rubber pad. It makes the rubber pad off center for all the keys below it... has anyone had this issue? I think the holes for the enter key stabs are upside down...

Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Mechalomania on Thu, 16 July 2020, 10:08:05
On the hotswap board, the enter key stabs are south facing, which causes an issue with the rubber pad. It makes the rubber pad off center for all the keys below it... has anyone had this issue? I think the holes for the enter key stabs are upside down...

Had same issue with hotswap.  I just used a box cutter and sliced off the notch.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kookiekurls on Thu, 16 July 2020, 10:45:39
Thanks, I was assuming I would have to do so, but just in case wanted to make sure it wasn’t the wrong thing to do!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Kookiekurls on Thu, 16 July 2020, 14:56:35
Sorry one more issue. Having trouble using QMK Toolbox and flashing the keyboard. When attached, it doesn't recognize it, and says "No HID console interfaces found." I've been able to get it working with my other keyboards, but this one doesn't work :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Fri, 17 July 2020, 05:26:12
If anyone has spare pcb they don't need, please sell it to me :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Fri, 17 July 2020, 14:34:00
If anyone has spare pcb they don't need, please sell it to me :thumb:

Senter has some extras: www.shorturl.at/hsJO6
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Fri, 17 July 2020, 14:53:13
If anyone has spare pcb they don't need, please sell it to me :thumb:

Senter has some extras: www.shorturl.at/hsJO6
I emailed him earlier this week and still haven’t heard back. Hopefully, I’ll hear something soon.

Got a reply.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Surefoot on Fri, 17 July 2020, 19:01:22
I emailed him earlier this week and still haven’t heard back. Hopefully, I’ll hear something soon.
I sent an email two weeks ago, and still no response - i suppose there's nothing left.
Strike that, just got a reply too.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Fri, 17 July 2020, 21:27:29
If anyone has spare pcb they don't need, please sell it to me :thumb:

Senter has some extras: www.shorturl.at/hsJO6

Sent him a PM about it and an email to order, haven't heard anything back nor got invoiced. So I assume extra PCBs are all sold out.

Nvm just got a reply.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: kchlam on Fri, 17 July 2020, 22:48:20
Is it just me or does the 7u plate file not upload onto ponoko? I've been trying for 2 days and it never uploads successfully.. :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thestateofmay on Mon, 20 July 2020, 11:43:52
Is anyone selling theirs? I'd love to get one D:
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Tue, 21 July 2020, 03:53:50
Sharing my Acrylic Key65
https://imgur.com/a/b58VYNB

Sound test
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Dr0p on Tue, 21 July 2020, 04:48:48
WTB Hotswap pcb or
trade brand new solder pcb for hotswap pcb please.
Pm me.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: xthongyy on Tue, 21 July 2020, 17:23:36
Did Senter pull the Fox Lab store? Had a couple item in carts and it's been down since yesterday
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thestateofmay on Tue, 21 July 2020, 23:49:10
Any chance this goes for a rerun?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Wed, 22 July 2020, 08:57:12
Many people asked me if there will be a round 2 (no) and why not. I guess I need to give a public answer here.
Firstly, Key65 was not a limited GB. The IC was long enough that anyone care about the community would see it. The GB period was long enough that anyone wanted to join can join. It was a long journey to get the 600 kits manufactured and shipped in this special time. I'm deeply grateful for those who patiently waited and who had faith on me. I'm not interested in making their wait a little less meaningful by running a much quicker group buy for the same design.
Secondly, I'm not interested in running the group buys for the same design. I've mentioned it many times. I don't want to run a group buy if there's nothing new.





That being said, I do plan to run a group buy for Time 80% in the near future. The concept is the same but all the details have been improved. It will be a totally different Time. I'll IC it and collect feedbacks soon.
[mention]thestateofmay [/mention] see quote
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: thestateofmay on Wed, 22 July 2020, 12:01:19
Ah that sucks. I only recently join the community and wasn't there for the group buy.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: crystalflame on Wed, 22 July 2020, 19:57:22
(https://i.imgur.com/aoZGyX4.png)

Hooked up 40 LEDs. I never want to open this up again. After all of that my left shift stab wire popped out and I somehow managed to pop it back in without having to desolder.


https://imgur.com/a/rhhwa8K
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: bananafritters on Thu, 23 July 2020, 07:01:59
Did anyone use SK6812b for RGB? I used it it worked but I did not get RGB but only white warm light.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: namplanana on Thu, 23 July 2020, 21:44:19
This is my Double Key
(https://www.234.in.th/images/2020/07/24/7BA15B98-6EEF-49AA-AC1B-BAC1E682FC19-17979-0000096C123ABD04.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Tue, 28 July 2020, 14:09:42
Are there any òther PCBs that work with the key65?  I need a spare one..
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Tue, 28 July 2020, 14:17:09
Are there any òther PCBs that work with the key65?  I need a spare one..

It's possible that a generic 65% with the same layout might work. But there is no guarantee that it will fit the usb port/cutout.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: senter on Tue, 28 July 2020, 16:07:37
There are still several spare PCBs.
 Now they can only be shipped to CONUS tho.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Tue, 28 July 2020, 17:38:08
There are still several spare PCBs.
 Now they can only be shipped to CONUS tho.

Oh wow that would be great, sent you an email.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: axisean1 on Tue, 28 July 2020, 17:42:24
There are still several spare PCBs.
 Now they can only be shipped to CONUS tho.

Email sent. Any 7u plates left?
Title: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: DZSlasher on Tue, 28 July 2020, 18:39:08
There are still several spare PCBs.
 Now they can only be shipped to CONUS tho.

That’s great! Any timeline of when the orders for the spare pcbs will be shipped?

Update: Received tracking number!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: bustorblador on Tue, 28 July 2020, 19:21:05
There are still several spare PCBs.
 Now they can only be shipped to CONUS tho.

Ive been looking for a spare pcb and plate too. Is there a site to order on?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Myk! on Tue, 28 July 2020, 21:20:02
Sharing my 2nd Key65 in acrylic case

(https://i.imgur.com/BNvksuG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/T2JERRJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/oFabE3z.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/fD7pFNY.jpg)


Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: axisean1 on Tue, 28 July 2020, 21:33:08
Does anyone have a 7u titanium plate for sale?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Fri, 31 July 2020, 19:50:20
I accidentally bought a spare hotswap 7u PCB. Non of my plates fit it.
Does anyone want to buy it off of me or swap me for another 6.25u pcb?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: MK47 on Mon, 03 August 2020, 05:25:35
Does anyone know what the foam between pcb and plate is called? I want to get some for my other boards.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Mon, 03 August 2020, 12:21:22
Does anyone know what the foam between pcb and plate is called? I want to get some for my other boards.
Don't know what it is exactly, but it's probably sorbothane.
Sorbothane is high density acoustic dampener.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Mon, 03 August 2020, 12:33:26
Does anyone know what the foam between pcb and plate is called? I want to get some for my other boards.

Think KBDFans has module foam you can buy. Not too sure if it fits the Key65 layout so check that first before you pull the trigger.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: synztran on Tue, 04 August 2020, 05:02:59
Help! Help! Help! Anyone can share me key65's wkl 7u spacebar plate file  ?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: //gainsborough on Tue, 04 August 2020, 09:58:10
Help! Help! Help! Anyone can share me key65's wkl 7u spacebar plate file  ?

https://fox-lab.github.io/gbs/Key-65.html

It's the last link on the "plate file" row.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Wed, 05 August 2020, 09:47:28
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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Fri, 14 August 2020, 15:14:19
There are still several spare PCBs.
 Now they can only be shipped to CONUS tho.

Do you still have some? My PCB keeps turning off. The reset button is not there.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: axisean1 on Sat, 15 August 2020, 16:25:44
has anyone tried a build with a pom plate? or does someone have an extra PC plate for sale?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jordanchan_ on Wed, 19 August 2020, 16:50:33
If anyone has a spare hotswap PCB or any spare parts they'd like to sell, please let me know!!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Sun, 23 August 2020, 00:07:13
Am I just really unlucky or what? I purchased an extra pcb from senter and it malfunctioned upon plugging in. Then he replaced it with a new one and it also malfunctioned.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Sun, 23 August 2020, 03:41:37
Am I just really unlucky or what? I purchased an extra pcb from senter and it malfunctioned upon plugging in. Then he replaced it with a new one and it also malfunctioned.

then it might be the cable you're using
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Sun, 23 August 2020, 11:45:51
Am I just really unlucky or what? I purchased an extra pcb from senter and it malfunctioned upon plugging in. Then he replaced it with a new one and it also malfunctioned.

then it might be the cable you're using

Nah, my key65 GB pcb is working just fine. Same cable same laptop. These 2 extra pcbs were busted the moment I plugged them in. Even tried with different cable / port still broken.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: PantoneC on Sun, 23 August 2020, 15:13:43
Am I just really unlucky or what? I purchased an extra pcb from senter and it malfunctioned upon plugging in. Then he replaced it with a new one and it also malfunctioned.

then it might be the cable you're using

Nah, my key65 GB pcb is working just fine. Same cable same laptop. These 2 extra pcbs were busted the moment I plugged them in. Even tried with different cable / port still broken.
Same here got extra pcb no issue everything worked just fine.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: axisean1 on Tue, 25 August 2020, 19:01:12
has anyone done a half plate build yet?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: mambamental1ty on Tue, 25 August 2020, 23:14:39
Has anyone had any luck filling in their kanji logo with acrylic paint themselves? I purchased mine on the after market and it's blank. Would I just use a small brush to fill it in myself?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Wed, 26 August 2020, 00:21:17
Has anyone had any luck filling in their kanji logo with acrylic paint themselves? I purchased mine on the after market and it's blank. Would I just use a small brush to fill it in myself?
Here's a written guide.
https://topclack.com/textclack/2019/7/30/infilling-by-jae-a-text-guide-to-infilling-logos-and-designs-on-keyboard-parts

Here's a video example at around 2:07:45.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: olsen34 on Wed, 26 August 2020, 02:51:53
Update to my extra PCBs situation:

Apparently the extra PCB I ordered from senter recently used a USB-C connector that only works in 1 direction, i.e. if you plug in your cable in the wrong orientation the pcb won't be detected and your pc will throw a malfunction warning.

I'm wondering if any of you guys has also encountered the same issue as I do regarding leftover PCBs.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: suparnemo on Fri, 04 September 2020, 08:24:00
Update to my extra PCBs situation:

Apparently the extra PCB I ordered from senter recently used a USB-C connector that only works in 1 direction, i.e. if you plug in your cable in the wrong orientation the pcb won't be detected and your pc will throw a malfunction warning.

I'm wondering if any of you guys has also encountered the same issue as I do regarding leftover PCBs.

How'd you order the PCB? I sent an email to runninghack and nothing back :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Dr0p on Fri, 04 September 2020, 08:38:04
WTB Polycarb 7u plate please.

Also wtb a hotswap pcb.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Fri, 04 September 2020, 09:09:55
You might have to keep an eye on r/mechmarket for pcbs. Plates I cut one from ponoko with the file and it works great. It's a good option.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: audax989 on Fri, 04 September 2020, 22:45:27
You might have to keep an eye on r/mechmarket for pcbs. Plates I cut one from ponoko with the file and it works great. It's a good option.

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where did you get them cut? also, what thickness did you ask them to do?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Fri, 04 September 2020, 22:46:45
You might have to keep an eye on r/mechmarket for pcbs. Plates I cut one from ponoko with the file and it works great. It's a good option.

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where did you get them cut? also, what thickness did you ask them to do?
I got them cut from ponoko with 1.5mm.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: isot0nic on Mon, 07 September 2020, 21:36:59
Really interesting board
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jmsp0511 on Mon, 07 September 2020, 21:55:52
does anyone have a solder pcb & plate combo for sale with the plate dampener?
Would love to purchase one, thank you!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: airyimbin on Mon, 07 September 2020, 23:49:39
does anyone have a solder pcb & plate combo for sale with the plate dampener?
Would love to purchase one, thank you!
Check /r/mechmarket there's a few that people are selling all the time.

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: snoofy on Tue, 08 September 2020, 01:32:12
My PCB keeps turning off too.

How can i?

I was checked my usb port
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: jmsp0511 on Tue, 08 September 2020, 01:50:27
does anyone have a solder pcb & plate combo for sale with the plate dampener?
Would love to purchase one, thank you!
Check /r/mechmarket there's a few that people are selling all the time.

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I'm actually on there all the time and no one is selling a solder pcb and plate combo lol
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: dommyy13 on Tue, 08 September 2020, 06:30:22
My PCB keeps turning off too.

How can i?

I was checked my usb port

did it come with the reset button removed or did you desolder it?  I had the same issue until I removed it
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: snoofy on Wed, 09 September 2020, 17:25:41
My PCB keeps turning off too.

How can i?

I was checked my usb port

did it come with the reset button removed or did you desolder it?  I had the same issue until I removed it


oh god!
thank you! so much!
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: cyanide814 on Thu, 10 September 2020, 13:30:44
Senter, can I buy an extra PCB or are there zero?

Does anyone have an extra PCB for sale?

"Solder Version" plz
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: axisean1 on Fri, 11 September 2020, 04:43:16
anyone want to do a gb on pom plates for the 7u?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: audax989 on Sat, 12 September 2020, 01:41:33
anyone want to do a gb on pom plates for the 7u?

I'd join it. but, I'm just looking to make one through ponoko
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: axisean1 on Sat, 12 September 2020, 17:17:44
anyone want to do a gb on pom plates for the 7u?

I'd join it. but, I'm just looking to make one through ponoko

i was planning to do that but its a lot cheaper if i could gather a group of people. or if anyone has a pc or pom plate for trade, i have an extra fr4 plate.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: audax989 on Fri, 25 September 2020, 06:23:01
I got my rgb strip in. but it seems I may have gotten the wrong one. it has 4 wires instead of 3. I tried soldering just the V D and G but it didn't seem to do the trick.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: aj90k on Tue, 29 September 2020, 21:07:26
does anyone know where i can get extra of the bumpons for the plate gasket? I ordered two plates in the group buy but only have enough for my 1st plate. Looking to get 16 more for my second.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: fault_lin3 on Tue, 29 September 2020, 21:39:27
does anyone know where i can get extra of the bumpons for the plate gasket? I ordered two plates in the group buy but only have enough for my 1st plate. Looking to get 16 more for my second.

Not sure where you're based but you're probably better off finding an adhesive sheet of 'gasket' off like amazon or something and making your own. I believe the common materials are rubber, silicone, poron, or foam. Its all preference.

That said, hate to say this but you installed the gaskets wrong. The 16 gaskets go on the mid and top case, which makes the plates interchangeable.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: aj90k on Tue, 29 September 2020, 22:43:37
:( my smooth brain makes me sad
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: M4ZEZ on Sat, 03 October 2020, 17:36:34
Will there be a rev 2 cause I really want to get this. :(
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: PantoneC on Sun, 04 October 2020, 11:05:49
does anyone know where i can get extra of the bumpons for the plate gasket? I ordered two plates in the group buy but only have enough for my 1st plate. Looking to get 16 more for my second.

You can buy 3m silcone gasket patches off amazon and cut with a knife to size.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Sun, 18 October 2020, 03:23:51
So, tried to infill my key65. Is this supposed to happen? I thought the paint on the case wouldn't wipe off.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: PantoneC on Sun, 18 October 2020, 03:46:43
So, tried to infill my key65. Is this supposed to happen? I thought the paint on the case wouldn't wipe off.
It is paint what did you use to wipe it? Personally tried using enamel paint kind of failed and used acetone free nail polish remover to wipe it clean. Even then I washed it with mild soap and water to be certain none of the nail polish remover got leftover.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Knoxx on Sun, 18 October 2020, 03:56:51
So, tried to infill my key65. Is this supposed to happen? I thought the paint on the case wouldn't wipe off.
It is paint what did you use to wipe it? Personally tried using enamel paint kind of failed and used acetone free nail polish remover to wipe it clean. Even then I washed it with mild soap and water to be certain none of the nail polish remover got leftover.

Thought the whole point of electrophoresis was so it didnt wipe off. I used isopropyl alcohol.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Draxion on Tue, 02 February 2021, 12:03:27
Does anyone know where to buy replacement gaskets. I'm getting my board cerakoated since my board came with tiny scratch on top case.
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: Slyceth on Fri, 21 May 2021, 10:28:15
I ordered my keyboard a year ago, and still got no updates. Did I get scammed?
Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: victorpre on Fri, 21 May 2021, 11:20:47
I ordered my keyboard a year ago, and still got no updates. Did I get scammed?
This was shipped months ago

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Title: Re: [GB] Fox Lab - Key 65
Post by: OmniSzron on Tue, 05 December 2023, 17:40:19
Just finished building my Key65 and wanted to share my findings with using split backspace. My PCB also had the issue with the pads on the front and back sides not connecting. I was able to fix this using a mill-max socket on the pad. With the use of the dampening pad, you can't even tell that one side of switch is in a mill-max socket since the dampening pad is so thick.

Hope this helps anyone experiencing the split backspace issue. (Please ignore the poor choice of keycaps. This is temporary until Camping R2 ships...)
I know it's been a while, but I just wanted to thank you for posting this. I built my Key65 a couple weeks ago and it turns out I also got a bum PCB. I tried the factory suggested method of just jamming a buttload of solder into the socket, but that didn't feel good and in the end - didn't work. I also tried contacting Senter, but he hasn't responded yet.

I was pretty bummed out about the whole build when I found your post, but it gave me some hope of actually salvaging it. I ordered some mill max sockets and they just got here today. I had never worked with them before, so that was also a learning experience. In the end, I soldered two for the switch in question, just to be safe and diligent (and hey, now I'll have one hot-swappable switch on the board).

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All I can say is that it worked! The key was immediately picked up in the VIA keytester. I'm so happy now. Not sure if you'll read this, but thank you for sharing your method.