[IC] Sagittarius (dates, proxies and US prices announced)

[callidumnomen]

This is perfect. Forget the B agnostics they can't pick a side.

[RossLocke18]

I personally really like this! Only thing I would suggest is to potentially make use of all the dead space in the middle. An engraving, logo, badge, rotary lol. But I will certainly be keeping my eyes on this one

[Gondolindrim]

I personally really like this! Only thing I would suggest is to potentially make use of all the dead space in the middle. An engraving, logo, badge, rotary lol. But I will certainly be keeping my eyes on this one

We already have something on that space. You are gonna love it!

[dvorcol]

I personally really like this! Only thing I would suggest is to potentially make use of all the dead space in the middle. An engraving, logo, badge, rotary lol. But I will certainly be keeping my eyes on this one

We already have something on that space. You are gonna love it!

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Great design and amazing write-ups!

My only comment is just being nit-picky - I'm not a huge fan of the recessed logo so close to where hands might glaze/rub/touch. It seems to me that it would collect more dust/grim than if it was placed on the upper corners/middle. Personally, I would love to see a Sagittarius themed logo - maybe the constellation can be a backdrop to the cannonkeys logo?

Great design and amazing write-ups!

My only comment is just being nit-picky - I'm not a huge fan of the recessed logo so close to where hands might glaze/rub/touch. It seems to me that it would collect more dust/grim than if it was placed on the upper corners/middle. Personally, I would love to see a Sagittarius themed logo - maybe the constellation can be a backdrop to the cannonkeys logo?

Your objections to the logo placement makes sense to me.

I’d also like to see a Sagittarius logo, as you suggested.


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You will be surprised. There is a Sagittarius logo on Sagittarius, but you can't see it. Yet.

Careful inspection of the PCB hints at a location for the Sagittarius logo.

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[Gondolindrim]

I personally really like this! Only thing I would suggest is to potentially make use of all the dead space in the middle. An engraving, logo, badge, rotary lol. But I will certainly be keeping my eyes on this one

We already have something on that space. You are gonna love it!

Nudge nudge wink wink.  Say no more, say no more.

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Great design and amazing write-ups!

My only comment is just being nit-picky - I'm not a huge fan of the recessed logo so close to where hands might glaze/rub/touch. It seems to me that it would collect more dust/grim than if it was placed on the upper corners/middle. Personally, I would love to see a Sagittarius themed logo - maybe the constellation can be a backdrop to the cannonkeys logo?

Great design and amazing write-ups!

My only comment is just being nit-picky - I'm not a huge fan of the recessed logo so close to where hands might glaze/rub/touch. It seems to me that it would collect more dust/grim than if it was placed on the upper corners/middle. Personally, I would love to see a Sagittarius themed logo - maybe the constellation can be a backdrop to the cannonkeys logo?

Your objections to the logo placement makes sense to me.

I’d also like to see a Sagittarius logo, as you suggested.


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You will be surprised. There is a Sagittarius logo on Sagittarius, but you can't see it. Yet.

Careful inspection of the PCB hints at a location for the Sagittarius logo.

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ssshhh ssshhh

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[Wamuu]

I've finally found the first ergo board I actually want to buy. This is the one!

[lakeboredom]

Very excited to try this layout. The big rounded corners of the case are an aesthetic turn off though. To mirror what someone else commented, I think it's the combination of rounded corners and sharper squared off edges in the middle that I find kind of mismatched.

[konstantin]

Very excited to try this layout. The big rounded corners of the case are an aesthetic turn off though. To mirror what someone else commented, I think it's the combination of rounded corners and sharper squared off edges in the middle that I find kind of mismatched.

Agreed on all points.

[mizuwolf]

Ohhh man I love the arrow keys option; I'd be alllll over this if it was hotswap! Fingers crossed you're able to make that work c:

[openstruct]

Count me in!

[Wamuu]

Ohhh man I love the arrow keys option; I'd be alllll over this if it was hotswap! Fingers crossed you're able to make that work c:

Probably impossible to do without giving up the ability to use rotary encoders.

[Gondolindrim]

Very excited to try this layout. The big rounded corners of the case are an aesthetic turn off though. To mirror what someone else commented, I think it's the combination of rounded corners and sharper squared off edges in the middle that I find kind of mismatched.

Very excited to try this layout. The big rounded corners of the case are an aesthetic turn off though. To mirror what someone else commented, I think it's the combination of rounded corners and sharper squared off edges in the middle that I find kind of mismatched.

Agreed on all points.

Case is being reworked and we should see an update soon!

[Gondolindrim]

Ohhh man I love the arrow keys option; I'd be alllll over this if it was hotswap! Fingers crossed you're able to make that work c:

Probably impossible to do without giving up the ability to use rotary encoders.

Right on the dot -- also, doing hotswap with suspended PCB designs like top mount and gasket is a nightmare because we have to include posts on the PCB and plates, making for a new plate+PCB kit. This is a double-edged sword because if we offer that as an addon on top of a possible default solderable PCB and "normal" plate people will get angry because they are forced into getting two kits. On the other hand, if we make it a new kit that can be selected, it will break kit numbers -- possibly not reaching MOQ on the process -- and making for more logistics, more kits to manage, more shipping.

Hotswap also has technical problems, such as a shortened PCB lifespan and the possibility of popping the sockets out.

[DukeEsquire]

Ohhh man I love the arrow keys option; I'd be alllll over this if it was hotswap! Fingers crossed you're able to make that work c:

Just mill-max it.

[FlitzDeelman]

Just mill-max it.

Sorry if this has been answered before, I know it’s been asked on at least one of the GBs I’m following.

Can the PCB be Mill-Maxed?


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[konstantin]

Case is being reworked and we should see an update soon!

Great news, thanks Gondo!

[perry4761]

Count me in!

[SenseiJia]

Interesting...I'll keep an eye on this.

[Kahgen]

On my radar for sure. The anticipation is killing me!

[kommotion]

Very interested! Really want to see what the new case design looks like.

[jmcameron]

Please add me to the list of interested people!
-Jonathan

[RedBananaBread]

Very interesting layout! Keeping an eye on this

[Xpliscit]

Add me to list! Can't wait

[hudsonnc]

I am very interested! Please add me to the list

I really love your approach to this -- optimization using mathematical bio-mechanical models, testing with real humans with an eye towards making this usable for people with repetitive use injuries, etc. Really nice work. And my condolences about your friend. It's really lovely that you are trying to help out his family a bit with the proceeds, and I would be honored to contribute (and get a sweet keyboard too!).

[perry4761]

Having the option of choosing a case with rounded cutouts for the knobs would be a very nice addition, even though I totally understand all the reasons why you might not want to do that. Can’t wait for this to go into GB, I love the scientific approach you guys took for this board! I hope this layout catches on

[Xpliscit]

What about a frosted polycarb case option?

[Gondolindrim]

Having the option of choosing a case with rounded cutouts for the knobs would be a very nice addition, even though I totally understand all the reasons why you might not want to do that. Can’t wait for this to go into GB, I love the scientific approach you guys took for this board! I hope this layout catches on

Rounded cutouts do not support switches, unfortunately

[Gondolindrim]

What about a frosted polycarb case option?

If Upas can offer it, I don't see why not. The format of the group buy (colors, materials, quantities) is totally up to him

[beigeandbrown]

Probably wont appeal to most people, but I really think a delrin (POM) or polycarb bottom with the aluminum top would fit this case well. Specifically a grey delrin bottom would be killer with that midnight blue top. It could cost less than polycarb due to how easy it is to machine and the surface of delrin just has a really cool ghostly look to it that no other material can match. Anyways just want to say I love this board. Also like the idea of punching small holes in the top case to let light through and drive home that constellation look.

[Ammomruoy]

Cant wait for this one! Count me in please!

[Wamuu]

I'm buying KAT Cyberspace specifically for this board. I hope Upas includes a dark grey or black color option!!!!!

[Xpliscit]

Is there an updated (estimated) timeline for GB? Or is UPAS the decider on that?

[Gondolindrim]

Is there an updated (estimated) timeline for GB? Or is UPAS the decider on that?

He is currently reworking the case and it's hard to give an estimate. It's done when we feel the case is on par with design standards and we are sure that we have achieved the feedback given here.

[Wamuu]

any chance the PCB will also be VIA compatible?

[HRB]

I can wait for all other keycap sets and boards without any problem, but I get really impatient with this board. I want it asap so bad.

[samanth]

Definitely on my list. Always in for a good cause. Cheers.

[Gondolindrim]

any chance the PCB will also be VIA compatible?

PCB will definitely be VIA compatible, don't need to resort to chance 

[Gondolindrim]

I can wait for all other keycap sets and boards without any problem, but I get really impatient with this board. I want it asap so bad.

[Gondolindrim]

Definitely on my list. Always in for a good cause. Cheers.

Thanks mate! Cheers!

[HRB]

I can wait for all other keycap sets and boards without any problem, but I get really impatient with this board. I want it asap so bad.

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I meant.. I only waited less than two months now and it feels like it's been at least 4~5 months since I first read this IC post. Can't wait

[Wamuu]

I'm curious to see how the RGB will look on the pcb. So the only points of RGB on the board will be the points that create the Sagittarius?  Won't a significant of the RGB then not actually be underneath the solid parts of the case and not under keys where they can be appreciated?

[Gondolindrim]

I'm curious to see how the RGB will look on the pcb. So the only points of RGB on the board will be the points that create the Sagittarius?  Won't a significant of the RGB then not actually be underneath the solid parts of the case and not under keys where they can be appreciated?

Albeit being under the case, you will be able to see the RGB lights.

[Mistah]

I really love it! Good job to both you and Tom; I hope his family is doing okay, Tom is lucky to have had such a good friend.

I'm not sure if you were still considering layout changes, or if it's solidified by now, but I have a question/suggestion if you are. What do you think of an inward left hand slant the same way the right hand slants, like in the Atreus or Boardrun? I'm curious on how that would fit into the optimization logic, or if the ergonomic slant was already considered.

I'm excited for this keyboard; I'll be watching it!

Edit: for the first time, I've read through all threads and understood the reasoning. Fair points! Interested to see what the middle space will be used for.

[TopreMoon]

From Cannon Keys Newsletter on August 13 titled "CannonKeys Update: Naevy Switches, GMK First Love and Bunch of Deskmat Extras", there is a little snippet that says:

For those interested in the Sagittarius - our revised design is done, and we've ordered prototypes.

Ahhhhhh!!

[baobaozi]

I only just noticed that the 6 key is on the left hand section and that makes me so sad.

[Gondolindrim]

I only just noticed that the 6 key is on the left hand section and that makes me so sad.

There already were discussions on the B, the 6, the Y, the space cluster. Choices are explained there

[Gondolindrim]

Update #3:

From Cannon Keys Newsletter on August 13 titled "CannonKeys Update: Naevy Switches, GMK First Love and Bunch of Deskmat Extras", there is a little snippet that says:

For those interested in the Sagittarius - our revised design is done, and we've ordered prototypes.

Ahhhhhh!!

Upas allowed me some sneak peek on the new case and.. Phew.

[Zeelobby]

Update #3:

From Cannon Keys Newsletter on August 13 titled "CannonKeys Update: Naevy Switches, GMK First Love and Bunch of Deskmat Extras", there is a little snippet that says:

For those interested in the Sagittarius - our revised design is done, and we've ordered prototypes.

Ahhhhhh!!

Upas allowed me some sneak peek on the new case and.. Phew.

What a tease!

[baobaozi]

I only just noticed that the 6 key is on the left hand section and that makes me so sad.

There already were discussions on the B, the 6, the Y, the space cluster. Choices are explained there

ahh yep, have read through it, for anybody else frantically searching for “6”, the discussion is on page 4.

yeah, I think it was that in Europe they teach touch typing with 6 on left, while when I learnt in Australia, it was taught with 6 on right. Not gonna say right or wrong, but this is what I learnt and that’s why it makes me sad.

The nice thing about split orthos though is that 6, Y are always on right side, and B is on left. This is perfect for me.

Thank you though and good luck with everything, still think this is a beautiful board, and it was pretty much the only Alice-style I would consider

[tripnvll]

I used the printable layout guide to make an approximation of this layout on a two board Dumang DK6 Ergo (limited to 1u and 1.25u modules for now). The DK6 Ergo boards are a bit too narrow to fit the PgUp/PgDn/Home/End keys in this layout, but the standard size DK6 rectangular boards (206mm wide vs the 147mm wide larger sections of the DK6 Ergo) would almost certainly fit them. Liking it so far after about half an hour of using it, but I will be modifying it a bit as the backspace and pipe keys are a bit too much of a stretch for my small hands/short fingers. I'll probably incorporate an arrow cluster and one or two horizontal/vertical combo thumb keys as well and of course replace the keycaps with something nicer.