[IC]New Original 'Panda' Linear Switch

[Hedgey]

Please stop moralizing, your whole post is completely unnecessary and not very well aligned with the facts about Pandagate. There are various pieces of the puzzle that don't match up and people are either interested or concerned.

Pandagate???   )

He'll stop moralizing when you stop vilifying OP.  You had some crazy theories that he's just going to bait and switch the testers, which makes you part of the negativity and unnecessary drama...

[Etherealsound]

It's pretty funny because I'm pretty sure I've noticed more people than usual selling off their holy pandas/panda switches on mm. Gotta cash in on that on the chance that the new switches are identical I guess.

[Rubbermilitia]

It's pretty funny because I'm pretty sure I've noticed more people than usual selling off their holy pandas/panda switches on mm. Gotta cash in on that on the chance that the new switches are identical I guess.

Yes I have noticed this trend as well, pandas are everywhere on mm now

[oldcat]

It's pretty funny because I'm pretty sure I've noticed more people than usual selling off their holy pandas/panda switches on mm. Gotta cash in on that on the chance that the new switches are identical I guess.

Pandas for everyone.

[tomu]

Will these be PCB-mount?

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[oldcat]

Will these be PCB-mount?

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I hope so too. Original Panda was not, though.

[Mcnos]

It's pretty funny because I'm pretty sure I've noticed more people than usual selling off their holy pandas/panda switches on mm. Gotta cash in on that on the chance that the new switches are identical I guess.

Yes I have noticed this trend as well, pandas are everywhere on mm now

I've been contemplating getting rid of them cause I'm leaning towards linears now lol

[oldcat]

It's pretty funny because I'm pretty sure I've noticed more people than usual selling off their holy pandas/panda switches on mm. Gotta cash in on that on the chance that the new switches are identical I guess.

Yes I have noticed this trend as well, pandas are everywhere on mm now

I've been contemplating getting rid of them cause I'm leaning towards linears now lol

63.5S Tealios are my new favorite.

[MMKB]

Is “Panda Switches” a trademark? Or is it a name that’s allowed by the OG inventor to use elsewhere?

Always good to see innovations in this community but need to get these details clarified first.

[KaosJ]

It's pretty funny because I'm pretty sure I've noticed more people than usual selling off their holy pandas/panda switches on mm. Gotta cash in on that on the chance that the new switches are identical I guess.

Yes I have noticed this trend as well, pandas are everywhere on mm now

I still have pandas but sold a batch few days before OP post, honestly i think i will regreat when (hopefully not) this will end up to not be a panda, the OG panda will raise even more. 

Please stop moralizing, your whole post is completely unnecessary and not very well aligned with the facts about Pandagate. There are various pieces of the puzzle that don't match up and people are either interested or concerned.

Pandagate???   )

He'll stop moralizing when you stop vilifying OP.  You had some crazy theories that he's just going to bait and switch the testers, which makes you part of the negativity and unnecessary drama...

People are honestly concerned about this, it's not vilifying OP. No one is saying that he will run out with the money, i'm pretty sure he will deliver something in fact. The problem is what he will deliver.
To be totally fair, i'm mostly concerned of the manifcaturer than OP.  If you saw some of the replies from the people who knows Panda very well, you will notice that they are not blaming what OP is trying to do (even if they should imho) and if you read very carefully and know panda switches, you might understand why. From their replies you might understand why our suspects are not unfounded. 

Funnily enough, just today I've seen first Zealios V2 arriving to reviews. They all say these are much more tactile than those before. It would be pretty unexpected unfolding of events if it turns out they are actually better than Holy Pandas.

Hopefully this time is real.  I think i just had a Déjà vu

[forevermadrigal]

Can't wait for these samples to come out

[oldcat]

Any time estimate on when the panda samples will be out?

[dimo]

can I inquire at what point samples may be discharged?

[oldcat]

Will these be PCB-mount?

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I believe the OG Pandas come with little holtites on the pins. Not sure if those will be offered in this iteration

[jeremyhrvtn]

A legend that I never thought would reach my grasp suddenly seems at arm's length. Do it mang.

[crykn]

I really want you to succeed, so I can finally get my hands on some Holy Pandas. However, I strongly urge you to visually distinguish these from Panda R1 to dispel any doubt and make it easy to tell from R1 and R2.

[Jedi]

... I strongly urge you to visually distinguish these from Panda R1 to dispel any doubt and make it easy to tell from R1 and R2.

So on this premise should kaihl also have visually distinguished a R1 box switch from their "fixed" R2 box switch?
Should also Cherry visually distinguish a silent black switch with incorrect spring weights from a corrected silent black switch?

I mean this way we can tell a difference right?
Asking for a friend.

[Allo]

I really want you to succeed, so I can finally get my hands on some Holy Pandas. However, I strongly urge you to visually distinguish these from Panda R1 to dispel any doubt and make it easy to tell from R1 and R2.

R1 say "INVYR" on them, and it seems Invyr is not involved in this project, so that likely won't be a problem.

[DasGnome]

... I strongly urge you to visually distinguish these from Panda R1 to dispel any doubt and make it easy to tell from R1 and R2.

So on this premise should kaihl also have visually distinguished a R1 box switch from their "fixed" R2 box switch?
Should also Cherry visually distinguish a silent black switch with incorrect spring weights from a corrected silent black switch?

I mean this way we can tell a difference right?
Asking for a friend.

Yeah that sounds really helpful. Good idea. 

[Acereconkeys]

... I strongly urge you to visually distinguish these from Panda R1 to dispel any doubt and make it easy to tell from R1 and R2.

So on this premise should kaihl also have visually distinguished a R1 box switch from their "fixed" R2 box switch?
Should also Cherry visually distinguish a silent black switch with incorrect spring weights from a corrected silent black switch?

I mean this way we can tell a difference right?
Asking for a friend.

The difference is in both of your cited cases the manufacturer doesn't change.

This, on the other hand, is a completely different person building a completely new product off a new mold and saying it's the same as someone else. It's like if Cherry decided it was going to make box switches we'd probably want osme kind of system to differentiate between cherry/kailh box switches.

[dimo]

I really want you to succeed, so I can finally get my hands on some Holy Pandas. However, I strongly urge you to visually distinguish these from Panda R1 to dispel any doubt and make it easy to tell from R1 and R2.

R1 say "INVYR" on them, and it seems Invyr is not involved in this project, so that likely won't be a problem.

But asfaik it only says INVYR on the housing.

So them stem could theoretically get swapped. If I’m going to play devils advocate— which could be done endlessly, evidently from this entire thread.

[dead_pixel_design]

Lot of good info in this thread, curios to see what comes of this

[oldcat]

... I strongly urge you to visually distinguish these from Panda R1 to dispel any doubt and make it easy to tell from R1 and R2.

So on this premise should kaihl also have visually distinguished a R1 box switch from their "fixed" R2 box switch?
Should also Cherry visually distinguish a silent black switch with incorrect spring weights from a corrected silent black switch?

I mean this way we can tell a difference right?
Asking for a friend.

The difference is in both of your cited cases the manufacturer doesn't change.

This, on the other hand, is a completely different person building a completely new product off a new mold and saying it's the same as someone else. It's like if Cherry decided it was going to make box switches we'd probably want osme kind of system to differentiate between cherry/kailh box switches.

It's the same factory, and OP has said the OG Panda mold was not destroyed.

We will find out soon. I am pretty optimistic.

[KaosJ]

It's the same factory, and OP has said the OG Panda mold was not destroyed.

That might be correct but unrelevant. Quoting OG Panda runner:

Uhhhhhh. The original moulds that 27 and I used for the pandas no longer exist - atleast in the state that they were for the original run.
Bsun do have very simmilar moulds but they are not the exact same.

>atleast in the state that they were for the original run

implies they if there was, they tried and that didn't produced a REAL Panda. 

[Ashardalon]

It's the same factory, and OP has said the OG Panda mold was not destroyed.

That might be correct but unrelevant. Quoting OG Panda runner:

Uhhhhhh. The original moulds that 27 and I used for the pandas no longer exist - atleast in the state that they were for the original run.
Bsun do have very simmilar moulds but they are not the exact same.

>atleast in the state that they were for the original run

implies they if there was, they tried and that didn't produced a REAL Panda.

This is what I've noticed a lot of people have been questioning, as the original creator came out and said they don't have the molds anymore. I guess we'll have to just wait and see how similar they are.

[dimo]

any updates ?

[Darknight00z]

any updates ?

No man, you don't want to stir the pandagate

[phatty]

What's happened here then?

A huge announcement > Pandas dropped to $3 - at the same time it's come to light that remaking Pandas is not looking so likely > SuperVan disappears

- Waiting to see how Pandas become the new Bitcoin.

Possible timeline:
SuperVan returns > new switches are Pandas > reasonable price is what they sold for originally

Likely timelines:
SuperVan returns > new switches are expensive bsuns, no real change
SuperVan doesn't return > old Pandas are now $18 a switch > "someone" dumps a bunch of Pandas they bought for $3 a switch during Pandagate

[Acereconkeys]

What's happened here then?

A huge announcement > Pandas dropped to $3 - at the same time it's come to light that remaking Pandas is not looking so likely > SuperVan disappears

- Waiting to see how Pandas become the new Bitcoin.

Possible timeline:
SuperVan returns > new switches are Pandas > reasonable price is what they sold for originally

Likely timelines:
SuperVan returns > new switches are expensive bsuns, no real change
SuperVan doesn't return > old Pandas are now $18 a switch > "someone" dumps a bunch of Pandas they bought for $3 a switch during Pandagate

What happened here was, as predicted based on the situation not making any sense, OP wasn't going to be providing new Pandas anytime soon.

It has only been about a month tho, maybe he'll show up again soon with more info hope so. I'd love to own HPs in my lifetime, but I think people were generally right to be skeptical here.

[HotRoderX]

What did people expect to happen? Any reasonable person would have vanished either completely or pending samples being tested.

[Gati]

What's happened here then?

A huge announcement > Pandas dropped to $3 - at the same time it's come to light that remaking Pandas is not looking so likely > SuperVan disappears

- Waiting to see how Pandas become the new Bitcoin.

Possible timeline:
SuperVan returns > new switches are Pandas > reasonable price is what they sold for originally

Likely timelines:
SuperVan returns > new switches are expensive bsuns, no real change
SuperVan doesn't return > old Pandas are now $18 a switch > "someone" dumps a bunch of Pandas they bought for $3 a switch during Pandagate

Or Zealios v2 wrecks the panda market entirely

[nuclear_wizard]

What's happened here then?

A huge announcement > Pandas dropped to $3 - at the same time it's come to light that remaking Pandas is not looking so likely > SuperVan disappears

- Waiting to see how Pandas become the new Bitcoin.

Possible timeline:
SuperVan returns > new switches are Pandas > reasonable price is what they sold for originally

Likely timelines:
SuperVan returns > new switches are expensive bsuns, no real change
SuperVan doesn't return > old Pandas are now $18 a switch > "someone" dumps a bunch of Pandas they bought for $3 a switch during Pandagate

Or Zealios v2 wrecks the panda market entirely

Not likely. Zealio v2's are much closer to improved royals than a competitor to HPs. Reviews I've seen and the description from Zeal make it pretty obvious that there is no lead-in to the tactile bump which is one of the main selling points of HPs imo.

[phatty]

To be honest, just use retooled blues.

They're so close to HPs, even at a $1 for Panda housing the price is a bit much.

[Acereconkeys]

To be honest, just use retooled blues.

They're so close to HPs, even at a $1 for Panda housing the price is a bit much.

Retooled blues would be perfect if it wasn't for the binding issue on the housings. You have to drill the housings.

[forevermadrigal]

To be honest, just use retooled blues.

They're so close to HPs, even at a $1 for Panda housing the price is a bit much.

Retooled blues would be perfect if it wasn't for the binding issue on the housings. You have to drill the housings.

Yeah, and spring weight also matters.

[Darknight00z]

What's happened here then?

A huge announcement > Pandas dropped to $3 - at the same time it's come to light that remaking Pandas is not looking so likely > SuperVan disappears

- Waiting to see how Pandas become the new Bitcoin.

Possible timeline:
SuperVan returns > new switches are Pandas > reasonable price is what they sold for originally

Likely timelines:
SuperVan returns > new switches are expensive bsuns, no real change
SuperVan doesn't return > old Pandas are now $18 a switch > "someone" dumps a bunch of Pandas they bought for $3 a switch during Pandagate

-Tinfoil hat on- It was all a plan for SuperVan to purchase some holy pandas for himself at $3 a pop.

[gbchk]

To be honest, just use retooled blues.

They're so close to HPs, even at a $1 for Panda housing the price is a bit much.

Retooled blues would be perfect if it wasn't for the binding issue on the housings. You have to drill the housings.

Isn't this only an issue with certain keycaps?

[Acereconkeys]

To be honest, just use retooled blues.

They're so close to HPs, even at a $1 for Panda housing the price is a bit much.

Retooled blues would be perfect if it wasn't for the binding issue on the housings. You have to drill the housings.

In my experience it only happened with GMK caps. But, from what i'm reading it may more have to do with the dimensions of the keycap, so ymmv. You'll have to just test/experiment.

Isn't this only an issue with certain keycaps?

[GeneriksGiraffe]

Watch, this was totally just an elaborate plot to lower panda prices for a brief period of time to let OP grab some switches and disappear lmao

[KaosJ]

Watch, this was totally just an elaborate plot to lower panda prices for a brief period of time to let OP grab some switches and disappear lmao

Actually tru 

[hineybush]

Watch, this was totally just an elaborate plot to lower panda prices for a brief period of time to let OP grab some switches and disappear lmao

big brane

[Solotov]

Man, I do still have my hope up. Wish this was not just a scam.

[xoxox1029]

lol already have halo trues ready for this!

[SuperVan]

I've sent the new panda samples to Quakemz, Walkerstop, MMKB and Nathan Kim more than a week. They will present all information to you guys and compare with the old samples after they received the samples. Detractors won't stop defaming me whether new pandas is as same as old pandas (except the logo) or not. They are all stakeholders. The cost of a rumor is too low, so stupid petty traders defame me again and again because they are afraid of new pandas' coming. As same as the way they defamed me, I can say these traders are too poor. They need the money from pandas' trading to improve their life a little. I sympathize with these detractors because of their embarassment currently. Maybe I will think about providing donation for them after the GB finished. Some guys keep on saying they believe in Jesus, and keep doing a lot of shameful things. Actually I have finshed running a GB successfully last year. If you hate me, you can attack me with your current evidence. Defaming with out any evidence is a pitiable display. Shame on these stupid rumormongers. I don't expect someone will support me. Please consider carefully before you decide to comment, for Jesus.

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[dimo]

I've sent the new panda samples to Quakemz, Walkerstop, MMKB and Nathan Kim more than a week. They will present all information to you guys and compare with the old samples after they received the samples. Detractors won't stop defaming me whether new pandas is as same as old pandas (except the logo) or not. They are all stakeholders. The cost of a rumor is too low, so stupid petty traders defame me again and again because they are afraid of new pandas' coming. As same as the way they defamed me, I can say these traders are too poor. They need the money from pandas' trading to improve their life a little. I sympathize with these detractors because of their embarassment currently. Maybe I will think about providing donation for them after the GB finished. Some guys keep on saying they believe in Jesus, and keep doing a lot of shameful things. Actually I have finshed running a GB successfully last year. If you hate me, you can attack me with your current evidence. Defaming with out any evidence is a pitiable display. Shame on these stupid rumormongers. I don't expect someone will support me. Please consider carefully before you decide to comment, for Jesus.

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Jesus help us all.

Excited for the reviews.

[KaosJ]

I've sent the new panda samples to Quakemz, Walkerstop, MMKB and Nathan Kim more than a week. They will present all information to you guys and compare with the old samples after they received the samples. Detractors won't stop defaming me whether new pandas is as same as old pandas (except the logo) or not. They are all stakeholders. The cost of a rumor is too low, so stupid petty traders defame me again and again because they are afraid of new pandas' coming. As same as the way they defamed me, I can say these traders are too poor. They need the money from pandas' trading to improve their life a little. I sympathize with these detractors because of their embarassment currently. Maybe I will think about providing donation for them after the GB finished. Some guys keep on saying they believe in Jesus, and keep doing a lot of shameful things. Actually I have finshed running a GB successfully last year. If you hate me, you can attack me with your current evidence. Defaming with out any evidence is a pitiable display. Shame on these stupid rumormongers. I don't expect someone will support me. Please consider carefully before you decide to comment, for Jesus.

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What the actual f* lol

Anyway looking forward for the reviews

[dimo]

bUt tHE sAmpLEs aRe jUSt oLD PAnDaS wITh nEw hOuSiNGs

[Acereconkeys]

This thread just went from a solid 6 to an 11. May Jesus guide us to HP nirvana.

[ReverbSlush]

father, son, and holy panda

Why do you look for the living among the dead? The pandas are not here; they have risen! Remember how SuperVan told you, while he was still with you in Galilee....

[Quakemz]

I was told the package was shipped to me last Monday. I imagine it will arrive soon. I will of course be letting my thoughts be known here once I experiment with them and tune them the same as I tuned the original holy panda board.