will we get a typing test on the protos soon? or do the protos not have the gaskets and all the bells n' whistles?
will we get a typing test on the protos soon? or do the protos not have the gaskets and all the bells n' whistles?
They do! I'll do a typing test shortly.
So glad ISO is supported. Does the PCB run QMK?I wanted to know as well, cause the original Cygnus run QMK, before the daughterboard.
So glad ISO is supported. Does the PCB run QMK?I wanted to know as well, cause the original Cygnus run QMK, before the daughterboard.
$67 for shipping to Norway, what? I pay less for furniture shipping from Denmark directly to my doorstep. Well it doesn't really matter because no PayPal. :shrug:$67 isn't much for international shipping of such a heavy item. it's a pretty common price for boards like this. it's aluminium and brass after all and therefore not light.
A typing test, as requested! Features SA/T1s on brass & GMK/Creams on POM.
hey theres something wrong with ur cygnus sound test video, it sounds really sht and idk how to fix the issue.
hey theres something wrong with ur cygnus sound test video, it sounds really sht and idk how to fix the issue.
QuoteA typing test, as requested! Features SA/T1s on brass & GMK/Creams on POM.
The mic makes everything sound rattle-y but looking past that the board sounds amazing! looking forward to it :-)
it probably sounds like that because it has no pcb.QuoteA typing test, as requested! Features SA/T1s on brass & GMK/Creams on POM.
The mic makes everything sound rattle-y but looking past that the board sounds amazing! looking forward to it :-)
That is not a mic thing. The board is rattley and hollow. I would suggest you listening again.
If you guys don't have any input on the board, why don't you just message pheonixstarr directly about your concerns? I would have expected a little bit better from people who are well known in the community.
hey theres something wrong with ur cygnus sound test video, it sounds really sht and idk how to fix the issue.
kinda resembles the intros of ramas promo videos imhohey theres something wrong with ur cygnus sound test video, it sounds really sht and idk how to fix the issue.
have the same problem, ne fix avail?
also nice intro, kinda reminded me of another video i watched earlier
If you guys don't have any input on the board, why don't you just message pheonixstarr directly about your concerns? I would have expected a little bit better from people who are well known in the community.
If you guys don't have any input on the board, why don't you just message pheonixstarr directly about your concerns? I would have expected a little bit better from people who are well known in the community.
Well known people aren't allowed to voice their opinions?
If you guys don't have any input on the board, why don't you just message pheonixstarr directly about your concerns? I would have expected a little bit better from people who are well known in the community.
Well known people aren't allowed to voice their opinions?
Did you read what I said? Or are you coming to troll as well?
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hey theres something wrong with ur cygnus sound test video, it sounds really sht and idk how to fix the issue.
There are a few things that draw people to high end keyboards:
1) Quality
2) Atypical Materials (compared to "gaming" keyboards with hollow plastic housings)
3) Sound
Cygnus seems to have 1&2 covered based on the photos and information provided both here and in the IC, but it failed catastrophically at 3 with the typing test that has since been removed. People are expressing these opinions because sound matters to them. People lube their switches and stabilizers because the sound matters to them. If it didn't we'd all still be using OEM boards and clacking away without a second thought.
None of this means the board will always sound bad, it's just that these particular build/config sounded bad. It's pretty confusing for some (and myself) as to why the GB runner wouldn't do everything possible make their board sound as good as possible. Posting those typing tests was just kinda counter-intuitive for someone trying to sell something.
If you guys don't have any input on the board, why don't you just message pheonixstarr directly about your concerns? I would have expected a little bit better from people who are well known in the community.
There are a few things that draw people to high end keyboards:
1) Quality
2) Atypical Materials (compared to "gaming" keyboards with hollow plastic housings)
3) Sound
Cygnus seems to have 1&2 covered based on the photos and information provided both here and in the IC, but it failed catastrophically at 3 with the typing test that has since been removed. People are expressing these opinions because sound matters to them. People lube their switches and stabilizers because the sound matters to them. If it didn't we'd all still be using OEM boards and clacking away without a second thought.
None of this means the board will always sound bad, it's just that these particular build/config sounded bad. It's pretty confusing for some (and myself) as to why the GB runner wouldn't do everything possible make their board sound as good as possible. Posting those typing tests was just kinda counter-intuitive for someone trying to sell something.
I agree. It makes no sense to post a noisy sound test. I messaged the runner privately to take it down because it was doing more harm than good. I believe she will post a better one once she has a proper setup.
There are a few things that draw people to high end keyboards:
1) Quality
2) Atypical Materials (compared to "gaming" keyboards with hollow plastic housings)
3) Sound
Cygnus seems to have 1&2 covered based on the photos and information provided both here and in the IC, but it failed catastrophically at 3 with the typing test that has since been removed. People are expressing these opinions because sound matters to them. People lube their switches and stabilizers because the sound matters to them. If it didn't we'd all still be using OEM boards and clacking away without a second thought.
None of this means the board will always sound bad, it's just that these particular build/config sounded bad. It's pretty confusing for some (and myself) as to why the GB runner wouldn't do everything possible make their board sound as good as possible. Posting those typing tests was just kinda counter-intuitive for someone trying to sell something.
I agree. It makes no sense to post a noisy sound test. I messaged the runner privately to take it down because it was doing more harm than good. I believe she will post a better one once she has a proper setup.
Quietly remove any evidence of faults of a board, only allow input that is positive. What a great forum that'll be. :thumb:
If you guys don't have any input on the board, why don't you just message pheonixstarr directly about your concerns? I would have expected a little bit better from people who are well known in the community.
my comment is clear input
why would u put a sht as fk sound test video in hopes of promoting 'your' board
dont need to pm pheonixstarr when the thread is there for that purpose
and as for pheonixstarr
At least do ur part and make effort since the other designers did all the work for you seeing as the cygnus is a 'stolen' design.
some advice for the sound test, maybe once you get ur paypal account or whatever to be unfrozen you can use the money to get a better mic.
There are a few things that draw people to high end keyboards:
1) Quality
2) Atypical Materials (compared to "gaming" keyboards with hollow plastic housings)
3) Sound
Cygnus seems to have 1&2 covered based on the photos and information provided both here and in the IC, but it failed catastrophically at 3 with the typing test that has since been removed. People are expressing these opinions because sound matters to them. People lube their switches and stabilizers because the sound matters to them. If it didn't we'd all still be using OEM boards and clacking away without a second thought.
None of this means the board will always sound bad, it's just that these particular build/config sounded bad. It's pretty confusing for some (and myself) as to why the GB runner wouldn't do everything possible make their board sound as good as possible. Posting those typing tests was just kinda counter-intuitive for someone trying to sell something.
I agree. It makes no sense to post a noisy sound test. I messaged the runner privately to take it down because it was doing more harm than good. I believe she will post a better one once she has a proper setup.
Quietly remove any evidence of faults of a board, only allow input that is positive. What a great forum that'll be. :thumb:
Seems better than the olivia++ IC thread amirite?
If you guys don't have any input on the board, why don't you just message pheonixstarr directly about your concerns? I would have expected a little bit better from people who are well known in the community.
my comment is clear input
why would u put a sht as fk sound test video in hopes of promoting 'your' board
dont need to pm pheonixstarr when the thread is there for that purpose
and as for pheonixstarr
At least do ur part and make effort since the other designers did all the work for you seeing as the cygnus is a 'stolen' design.
some advice for the sound test, maybe once you get ur paypal account or whatever to be unfrozen you can use the money to get a better mic.
If you guys don't have any input on the board, why don't you just message pheonixstarr directly about your concerns? I would have expected a little bit better from people who are well known in the community.
my comment is clear input
why would u put a sht as fk sound test video in hopes of promoting 'your' board
dont need to pm pheonixstarr when the thread is there for that purpose
and as for pheonixstarr
At least do ur part and make effort since the other designers did all the work for you seeing as the cygnus is a 'stolen' design.
some advice for the sound test, maybe once you get ur paypal account or whatever to be unfrozen you can use the money to get a better mic.
this is what i live for
If you guys don't have any input on the board, why don't you just message pheonixstarr directly about your concerns? I would have expected a little bit better from people who are well known in the community.
my comment is clear input
why would u put a sht as fk sound test video in hopes of promoting 'your' board
dont need to pm pheonixstarr when the thread is there for that purpose
and as for pheonixstarr
At least do ur part and make effort since the other designers did all the work for you seeing as the cygnus is a 'stolen' design.
some advice for the sound test, maybe once you get ur paypal account or whatever to be unfrozen you can use the money to get a better mic.
this is what i live for
giving ur life a more pleasant meaning hope you enjoy ur day :)
Quinella is now my best friendIf you guys don't have any input on the board, why don't you just message pheonixstarr directly about your concerns? I would have expected a little bit better from people who are well known in the community.
my comment is clear input
why would u put a sht as fk sound test video in hopes of promoting 'your' board
dont need to pm pheonixstarr when the thread is there for that purpose
and as for pheonixstarr
At least do ur part and make effort since the other designers did all the work for you seeing as the cygnus is a 'stolen' design.
some advice for the sound test, maybe once you get ur paypal account or whatever to be unfrozen you can use the money to get a better mic.
this is what i live for
giving ur life a more pleasant meaning hope you enjoy ur day :)
i appreciate it my friend, more days will be enjoyed if you keep laying down the roasts
remember all! if u missed out on the type test video make sure you visit keylace.co (http://keylace.co)
also obligatory screenshot https://imgur.com/a/LCEPwO8
remember all! if u missed out on the type test video make sure you visit keylace.coniceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, officially better at stealing than sprit :thumb:
also obligatory screenshot https://imgur.com/a/LCEPwO8
Quoteremember all! if u missed out on the type test video make sure you visit keylace.coniceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, officially better at stealing than sprit :thumb:
also obligatory screenshot https://imgur.com/a/LCEPwO8
Still super confused what was possibly making the weird rattling noise in that, is the plate too loose and the switches are moving around because there isn't a pcb? or is there a hidden outemu blue that all the keys lead to?
Sounds like the springs, makes the T1's sound clickly. Reverb of SA doesn't help.Quoteremember all! if u missed out on the type test video make sure you visit keylace.coniceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, officially better at stealing than sprit :thumb:
also obligatory screenshot https://imgur.com/a/LCEPwO8
Still super confused what was possibly making the weird rattling noise in that, is the plate too loose and the switches are moving around because there isn't a pcb? or is there a hidden outemu blue that all the keys lead to?
If you guys don't have any input on the board, why don't you just message pheonixstarr directly about your concerns? I would have expected a little bit better from people who are well known in the community.
Holy crap THOSE were T1 on that board?
What have you done to my favorite switch babies?If you guys don't have any input on the board, why don't you just message pheonixstarr directly about your concerns? I would have expected a little bit better from people who are well known in the community.
Sound tests do play a huge part in many people's purchase decision.
Which seems rather fair for a $400 board.
Who's to say other switch-plate configs wouldn't sound just as bad as what we have now?
Holy crap THOSE were T1 on that board?
What have you done to my favorite switch babies?If you guys don't have any input on the board, why don't you just message pheonixstarr directly about your concerns? I would have expected a little bit better from people who are well known in the community.
Sound tests do play a huge part in many people's purchase decision.
Which seems rather fair for a $400 board.
Who's to say other switch-plate configs wouldn't sound just as bad as what we have now?
There seems to be a lot of glazing over what I typed even though I've been quoted 4 or 5 different times now. Nowhere did I say if you had input about the board (sound included) should you not post anything. I said that IF you don't have any input, then message pheonix directly. Things that would fall under that category would be #justiceforbiso, things being awkward, stolen domains, etc, etc. What I'm trying to avoid is 4-5 people repeatedly posting in this thread to derail the GB instead of actually asking questions because they are interested in buying the board (which is part of the rules to the GB forum)
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Holy crap THOSE were T1 on that board?
What have you done to my favorite switch babies?If you guys don't have any input on the board, why don't you just message pheonixstarr directly about your concerns? I would have expected a little bit better from people who are well known in the community.
Sound tests do play a huge part in many people's purchase decision.
Which seems rather fair for a $400 board.
Who's to say other switch-plate configs wouldn't sound just as bad as what we have now?
There seems to be a lot of glazing over what I typed even though I've been quoted 4 or 5 different times now. Nowhere did I say if you had input about the board (sound included) should you not post anything. I said that IF you don't have any input, then message pheonix directly. Things that would fall under that category would be #justiceforbiso, things being awkward, stolen domains, etc, etc. What I'm trying to avoid is 4-5 people repeatedly posting in this thread to derail the GB instead of actually asking questions because they are interested in buying the board (which is part of the rules to the GB forum)
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See here's the problem:
People like you are blindly white knighting the OP when they very clearly have a bit of a shady history. First time GB runner, unlimited GB, many blatant lies, money already frozen, questionable design choices, etc. I personally feel like people should at least have some knowledge of the situation before blindly tossing their $4-500 away and ending up with another Tesletron2.0 situation. This goes beyond just the "justiceforbiso" situation and if you want to sit here with blinders on, that's fine but I am not going to.
threadcrapping is against the rules so ill probably be gone but before that.
people have been warned thanks for pwner listing it out.
#justice4biso
threadcrapping is against the rules so ill probably be gone but before that.it's been real
people have been warned thanks for pwner listing it out.
#justice4biso
threadcrapping is against the rules so ill probably be gone but before that.godspeed to u, u magnificent bastard
people have been warned thanks for pwner listing it out.
#justice4biso
At least do ur part and make effort since the other designers did all the work for you seeing as the cygnus is a 'stolen' design.
threadcrapping is against the rules so ill probably be gone but before that.
people have been warned thanks for pwner listing it out.
#justice4biso
threadcrapping is against the rules so ill probably be gone but before that.
people have been warned thanks for pwner listing it out.
#justice4biso
threadcrapping is against the rules so ill probably be gone but before that.
people have been warned thanks for pwner listing it out.
#justice4biso
QuoteAt least do ur part and make effort since the other designers did all the work for you seeing as the cygnus is a 'stolen' design.
Just wondering, is there anything other than the bezels and the spacing on the keyboard that is stolen? I can't find a whole lot that's similar personally. Especially the typing angle seeing as one of them has a 5.5 degree typing angle and one has a 14 degree typing angle. Not saying it isn't copied but just wondering if I'm that dumb. Still staying tuned on this thread because personally I like f-row less things and it'd be nice if this goes well :-)
QuoteAt least do ur part and make effort since the other designers did all the work for you seeing as the cygnus is a 'stolen' design.
Just wondering, is there anything other than the bezels and the spacing on the keyboard that is stolen? I can't find a whole lot that's similar personally. Especially the typing angle seeing as one of them has a 5.5 degree typing angle and one has a 14 degree typing angle. Not saying it isn't copied but just wondering if I'm that dumb. Still staying tuned on this thread because personally I like f-row less things and it'd be nice if this goes well :-)
tbh although the design is pretty much a copy of bisos board, I don't really mind it.
might sound harsh but biso made that prototype, put it on a shelf and apparently forgot about it.
he never showed any intent of running an actual gb with it.
so someone else picking up the design and actually making it available to other people isn't that bad imho since the original designer had his chance and tossed it.
I agree though that he should at least have been credited in some way and things don't actually run very smooth with this entire gb.
QuoteAt least do ur part and make effort since the other designers did all the work for you seeing as the cygnus is a 'stolen' design.
Just wondering, is there anything other than the bezels and the spacing on the keyboard that is stolen? I can't find a whole lot that's similar personally. Especially the typing angle seeing as one of them has a 5.5 degree typing angle and one has a 14 degree typing angle. Not saying it isn't copied but just wondering if I'm that dumb. Still staying tuned on this thread because personally I like f-row less things and it'd be nice if this goes well :-)
tbh although the design is pretty much a copy of bisos board, I don't really mind it.
might sound harsh but biso made that prototype, put it on a shelf and apparently forgot about it.
he never showed any intent of running an actual gb with it.
so someone else picking up the design and actually making it available to other people isn't that bad imho since the original designer had his chance and tossed it.
I agree though that he should at least have been credited in some way and things don't actually run very smooth with this entire gb.
That's because he never got the pcb he commissioned. :thumb:
QuoteAt least do ur part and make effort since the other designers did all the work for you seeing as the cygnus is a 'stolen' design.
Just wondering, is there anything other than the bezels and the spacing on the keyboard that is stolen? I can't find a whole lot that's similar personally. Especially the typing angle seeing as one of them has a 5.5 degree typing angle and one has a 14 degree typing angle. Not saying it isn't copied but just wondering if I'm that dumb. Still staying tuned on this thread because personally I like f-row less things and it'd be nice if this goes well :-)
tbh although the design is pretty much a copy of bisos board, I don't really mind it.
might sound harsh but biso made that prototype, put it on a shelf and apparently forgot about it.
he never showed any intent of running an actual gb with it.
so someone else picking up the design and actually making it available to other people isn't that bad imho since the original designer had his chance and tossed it.
I agree though that he should at least have been credited in some way and things don't actually run very smooth with this entire gb.
That's because he never got the pcb he commissioned. :thumb:
QuoteAt least do ur part and make effort since the other designers did all the work for you seeing as the cygnus is a 'stolen' design.
Just wondering, is there anything other than the bezels and the spacing on the keyboard that is stolen? I can't find a whole lot that's similar personally. Especially the typing angle seeing as one of them has a 5.5 degree typing angle and one has a 14 degree typing angle. Not saying it isn't copied but just wondering if I'm that dumb. Still staying tuned on this thread because personally I like f-row less things and it'd be nice if this goes well :-)
tbh although the design is pretty much a copy of bisos board, I don't really mind it.
might sound harsh but biso made that prototype, put it on a shelf and apparently forgot about it.
he never showed any intent of running an actual gb with it.
so someone else picking up the design and actually making it available to other people isn't that bad imho since the original designer had his chance and tossed it.
I agree though that he should at least have been credited in some way and things don't actually run very smooth with this entire gb.
QuoteAt least do ur part and make effort since the other designers did all the work for you seeing as the cygnus is a 'stolen' design.
Just wondering, is there anything other than the bezels and the spacing on the keyboard that is stolen? I can't find a whole lot that's similar personally. Especially the typing angle seeing as one of them has a 5.5 degree typing angle and one has a 14 degree typing angle. Not saying it isn't copied but just wondering if I'm that dumb. Still staying tuned on this thread because personally I like f-row less things and it'd be nice if this goes well :-)
tbh although the design is pretty much a copy of bisos board, I don't really mind it.
might sound harsh but biso made that prototype, put it on a shelf and apparently forgot about it.
he never showed any intent of running an actual gb with it.
so someone else picking up the design and actually making it available to other people isn't that bad imho since the original designer had his chance and tossed it.
I agree though that he should at least have been credited in some way and things don't actually run very smooth with this entire gb.
almost like he got screwed over by the person who he commissioned to design the pcb and it has put him off that project for a bit huh?
QuoteAt least do ur part and make effort since the other designers did all the work for you seeing as the cygnus is a 'stolen' design.
Just wondering, is there anything other than the bezels and the spacing on the keyboard that is stolen? I can't find a whole lot that's similar personally. Especially the typing angle seeing as one of them has a 5.5 degree typing angle and one has a 14 degree typing angle. Not saying it isn't copied but just wondering if I'm that dumb. Still staying tuned on this thread because personally I like f-row less things and it'd be nice if this goes well :-)
tbh although the design is pretty much a copy of bisos board, I don't really mind it.
might sound harsh but biso made that prototype, put it on a shelf and apparently forgot about it.
he never showed any intent of running an actual gb with it.
so someone else picking up the design and actually making it available to other people isn't that bad imho since the original designer had his chance and tossed it.
I agree though that he should at least have been credited in some way and things don't actually run very smooth with this entire gb.
That's because he never got the pcb he commissioned. :thumb:
to help reinforce that statement.
https://imgur.com/a/VTDOjtO
MoreQuoteAt least do ur part and make effort since the other designers did all the work for you seeing as the cygnus is a 'stolen' design.
Just wondering, is there anything other than the bezels and the spacing on the keyboard that is stolen? I can't find a whole lot that's similar personally. Especially the typing angle seeing as one of them has a 5.5 degree typing angle and one has a 14 degree typing angle. Not saying it isn't copied but just wondering if I'm that dumb. Still staying tuned on this thread because personally I like f-row less things and it'd be nice if this goes well :-)
tbh although the design is pretty much a copy of bisos board, I don't really mind it.
might sound harsh but biso made that prototype, put it on a shelf and apparently forgot about it.
he never showed any intent of running an actual gb with it.
so someone else picking up the design and actually making it available to other people isn't that bad imho since the original designer had his chance and tossed it.
I agree though that he should at least have been credited in some way and things don't actually run very smooth with this entire gb.
That's because he never got the pcb he commissioned. :thumb:
to help reinforce that statement.
https://imgur.com/a/VTDOjtO
So was the Kelly87 person supposed to design the PCB for this Biso guy?
I'm sorry but it is kinda hard to follow a point that you're trying to make when you only post a small snippet.
Glad all this is out in the open, transparency is important.I definitely agree that things like the weird pcb commission stuff should be discussed and clarified in here but the **** that went down in this thread has nothing to do with discussing problems.
MoreQuoteAt least do ur part and make effort since the other designers did all the work for you seeing as the cygnus is a 'stolen' design.
Just wondering, is there anything other than the bezels and the spacing on the keyboard that is stolen? I can't find a whole lot that's similar personally. Especially the typing angle seeing as one of them has a 5.5 degree typing angle and one has a 14 degree typing angle. Not saying it isn't copied but just wondering if I'm that dumb. Still staying tuned on this thread because personally I like f-row less things and it'd be nice if this goes well :-)
tbh although the design is pretty much a copy of bisos board, I don't really mind it.
might sound harsh but biso made that prototype, put it on a shelf and apparently forgot about it.
he never showed any intent of running an actual gb with it.
so someone else picking up the design and actually making it available to other people isn't that bad imho since the original designer had his chance and tossed it.
I agree though that he should at least have been credited in some way and things don't actually run very smooth with this entire gb.
That's because he never got the pcb he commissioned. :thumb:
to help reinforce that statement.
https://imgur.com/a/VTDOjtO
So was the Kelly87 person supposed to design the PCB for this Biso guy?
I'm sorry but it is kinda hard to follow a point that you're trying to make when you only post a small snippet.
I believe Kelly87 had nothing to do with. PhoenixStarr was commissioned by Bisoromi to produce a PCB for Biso's function row-less TKL design. PhoenixStarr never shipped the PCBs to Biso, therefore, halting his development while PheonixStarr goes and starts a GB for the same exact keyboard layout. That's my understanding out of this whole fiasco, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
So was the Kelly87 person supposed to design the PCB for this Biso guy?
I'm sorry but it is kinda hard to follow a point that you're trying to make when you only post a small snippet.
I believe Kelly87 had nothing to do with. PhoenixStarr was commissioned by Bisoromi to produce a PCB for Biso's function row-less TKL design. PhoenixStarr never shipped the PCBs to Biso, therefore, halting his development while PheonixStarr goes and starts a GB for the same exact keyboard layout. That's my understanding out of this whole fiasco, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
He can correct me if Im wrong but I dont believe Biso ever got his money back either. He paid to have someone design a pcb for their own board instead and instantly start a gb before he could get someone reliable to design his.
So was the Kelly87 person supposed to design the PCB for this Biso guy?
I'm sorry but it is kinda hard to follow a point that you're trying to make when you only post a small snippet.
I believe Kelly87 had nothing to do with. PhoenixStarr was commissioned by Bisoromi to produce a PCB for Biso's function row-less TKL design. PhoenixStarr never shipped the PCBs to Biso, therefore, halting his development while PheonixStarr goes and starts a GB for the same exact keyboard layout. That's my understanding out of this whole fiasco, someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Seems mostly right. I don't have an axe to grind in this drama, but it's interesting, so I am trying to lay out the facts as best as I can.
PheonixStarr made this claim Nov. 20th on Top Clack's Discord:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/loiQ46g.png)
It's important to follow through on promises like that, but it doesn't seem like Pheonix has followed through. It's harder to trust people with larger-scale projects when they don't take care of the little things.
I don't believe the keyboard case design was stolen. Here's Bisoromi talking about that on the MechKeys Discord:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/87Xqh0q.png)
Hope that helps.
Didn't know so much drama was behind this board. Oh gawd!