Author Topic: [IC] Flatline Black and Cyan SA profile keyset (on hold see OP) (Read 183757 times)

Sifo · « **Reply #300 on:** Sat, 23 January 2016, 17:28:21 »

Quote from: SL89 on Sat, 23 January 2016, 17:26:17

tbh idk who is more annoying, mito and his cadre or the anti-mito circlejerk

now the toothpaste is out of the tube and colorways and designs wont be under lock and key

the few designers, artisans, and groups who have fans or cliques of support will just flame the 'interlopers' until they cant anymore and vice versa

no anti-mito circlejerk here you guys have the wrong idea. I can't speak for the people purchasing this set but I'm just running it because people wanted it, and at the time of conception we were all under the impression that Pulse would not have a round 2. Of course mito backed out like 5 times, deleting his IC as soon as I said I'd cancel my buy, and then posting it again as soon as I decided to continue it.

SL89 · « **Reply #301 on:** Sat, 23 January 2016, 17:29:58 »

@Sifo Oh its here (in this thread even,) and in full. Maybe not you Sifo, but GH has been on his case for a while and members from here continue to do so.

Quote from: f1xedgear on Sat, 23 January 2016, 17:26:50

I for one would love calm depths to happen again. I've read that others have tried to contact Calm about reruns with no response, so perhaps that would actually be a good candidate for a reboot?

Who's to say he has any input over that sort of thing now, you don't need Calm to run the colors and tmk its not even like Calm Depths had any (or many) custom legends.

Sifo · « **Reply #302 on:** Sat, 23 January 2016, 17:32:24 »

On second thought I won't respond to this because I'm not apart of any conflict.

I'm simply running a set that people expressed interest in. At the time of this set's conception, it was "confirmed" that a similar one would never happen again. Now that I'm running this buy, other said set is happening again (what a coincidence).

SL89 · « **Reply #303 on:** Sat, 23 January 2016, 17:36:25 »

Again, I'm not saying you Sifo or your intent. The toothpaste is out the tube, I'm sure we will see all the classics come back into circulation. Symbiosis and Round 6 have already proven that SP cares little who 'designed' any of this stuff so long as they get paid.

Michael · « **Reply #304 on:** Sat, 23 January 2016, 18:22:00 »

Phirr · « **Reply #305 on:** Sat, 23 January 2016, 18:35:37 »

Quote from: SL89 on Sat, 23 January 2016, 17:36:25

Again, I'm not saying you Sifo or your intent. The toothpaste is out the tube, I'm sure we will see all the classics come back into circulation. Symbiosis and Round 6 have already proven that SP cares little who 'designed' any of this stuff so long as they get paid.

SL89, you know that Symbiosis and 5a/6 are both based off of the Space cadet keyboard, right? Both are derivative of a 30 year old keyboard.

Melvang · « **Reply #306 on:** Sat, 23 January 2016, 18:39:17 »

Quote from: SL89 on Sat, 23 January 2016, 17:36:25

Again, I'm not saying you Sifo or your intent. The toothpaste is out the tube, I'm sure we will see all the classics come back into circulation. Symbiosis and Round 6 have already proven that SP cares little who 'designed' any of this stuff so long as they get paid.

If you want to go that route, look at Apple. When was the last time they actually INVENTED anything. All they do is get tech from other people, put it in a pretty box, and market the hell out of it.

n__dles · « **Reply #307 on:** Sat, 23 January 2016, 19:11:51 »

Quote from: SL89 on Sat, 23 January 2016, 17:36:25

.., I'm sure we will see all the classics come back into circulation.

If I read this right, you think it's a bad thing? If so, why?

Im all for 'designers' collecting royalties of each set sold if they chose. If a designer was collecting royalties I understand why they would want to have control over their design. However, I'm incapable of understanding why they would care if someone else runs a GB with their design if it didn't affect them financially. FWIW, I'd respect a designers wish in the latter case, but I can't see what differences it makes.

Melvang · « **Reply #308 on:** Sat, 23 January 2016, 19:15:27 »

Quote from: n__dles on Sat, 23 January 2016, 19:11:51

Quote from: SL89 on Sat, 23 January 2016, 17:36:25
.., I'm sure we will see all the classics come back into circulation.
If I read this right, you think it's a bad thing? If so, why?

Im all for 'designers' collecting royalties of each set sold if they chose. If a designer was collecting royalties I understand why they would want to have control over their design. However, I'm incapable of understanding why they would care if someone else runs a GB with their design if it didn't affect them financially. FWIW, I'd respect a designers wish in the latter case, but I can't see what differences it makes.

Problem is, you can't force royalties at least with colorways. Besides, with SP's terms and conditions agreement, the "designer" really has no rights to the colorway in any way, shape, or form. Now custom legends, that is a slightly different matter.

n__dles · « **Reply #309 on:** Sat, 23 January 2016, 19:43:54 »

Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 23 January 2016, 19:15:27

Problem is, you can't force royalties at least with colorways.

I meant that in an abstract sense: I'm not opposed to IP, in keycaps, software, etc. and I understand the motive: financial gain. Basically, I'm not a hippy who thinks everything should be free. I shouldn't have used a concrete example, sorry for confusion.

My point was, I can't wrap my mind around giving your content away for free, but worrying how the users gets it. For example, if Bill designs a keyset without plans to profit from it, why does he care if Alice runs a GB (given that she attributes Bill as the creator)? That's not a snarky rhetorical question, I know people care, I'm trying to see it from their perspective.

Jedi · « **Reply #310 on:** Sat, 23 January 2016, 19:43:58 »

Well dayum, this is better than watching a Kardashian rerun :grabs popcorn and sits down on the couch

Melvang · « **Reply #311 on:** Sat, 23 January 2016, 20:18:36 »

Quote from: n__dles on Sat, 23 January 2016, 19:43:54

Quote from: Melvang on Sat, 23 January 2016, 19:15:27
Problem is, you can't force royalties at least with colorways.
I meant that in an abstract sense: I'm not opposed to IP, in keycaps, software, etc. and I understand the motive: financial gain. Basically, I'm not a hippy who thinks everything should be free. I shouldn't have used a concrete example, sorry for confusion.

My point was, I can't wrap my mind around giving your content away for free, but worrying how the users gets it. For example, if Bill designs a keyset without plans to profit from it, why does he care if Alice runs a GB (given that she attributes Bill as the creator)? That's not a snarky rhetorical question, I know people care, I'm trying to see it from their perspective.

Gotcha, I understand your sentiment. I did a group buy for some single switch PCBs, the Enablers, and was approached by a site that is known here about them stocking it as a regular item and having it produced on their own. Honestly I could care less, they did approach me about doing that and I had just one request. I asked them to stay with US based fab shops. Other than that, I could care less about people running it. If I did care, I wouldn't have shared the design at OshPark for anyone to make.

UsualSuspectXXX · « **Reply #312 on:** Sat, 23 January 2016, 20:20:49 »

God, I love this thread. If this actually runs, I'm definitely in!

Edit: Nice change in subject

Sifo · « **Reply #313 on:** Sat, 23 January 2016, 22:15:23 »

Pls stop thread crap this is actually serious and the direction has changed.

I REALLY hope to get some mock ups out to you guys soon. I have seen the preview and the people who volunteered to help do them do great work so bare with me :X

skipped · « **Reply #314 on:** Sat, 23 January 2016, 22:25:37 »

Quote from: Sifo on Sat, 23 January 2016, 22:15:23

Pls stop thread crap this is actually serious and the direction has changed.

I REALLY hope to get some mock ups out to you guys soon. I have seen the preview and the people who volunteered to help do them do great work so bare with me :X

Can't wait! I think the mockups will help people realize that this is serious

demik · « **Reply #315 on:** Sat, 23 January 2016, 23:10:10 »

SIFO I HATE U HO

<3

Sifo · « **Reply #316 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:10:04 »

Still asleep so I'll update properly later including op. I'm sure you guys have seen the new bro reaper, he'll have the proper color chips soon to color match properly.

Just need a name, SP to get back to me about pricing and we're good to go.

SL89 · « **Reply #317 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:15:19 »

Quote from: Phirr on Sat, 23 January 2016, 18:35:37

SL89, you know that Symbiosis and 5a/6 are both based off of the Space cadet keyboard, right? Both are derivative of a 30 year old keyboard.

...And you know the unique legends (some of which SP didnt have on file) were made (and paid for) by 7bit from DT? The colorway, and the design predate all of them. But the SA molds for those legends were set up in preparation for Round 6.

Edit: out of deference for Sifo's project, i'll be on topic from here on out.

Sifo those renders look swell, did you decide on 312344 or 3333333 or 112344 or whatever yet?

FLFisherman · « **Reply #318 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:30:10 »

Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:10:04

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Still asleep so I'll update properly later including op. I'm sure you guys have seen the new bro reaper, he'll have the proper color chips soon to color match properly.

Just need a name, SP to get back to me about pricing and we're good to go.

Looking very good. And it's really cool you're coordinating with Bro on this.

Sifo · « **Reply #319 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:33:15 »

Quote from: SL89 on Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:15:19

Quote from: Phirr on Sat, 23 January 2016, 18:35:37
SL89, you know that Symbiosis and 5a/6 are both based off of the Space cadet keyboard, right? Both are derivative of a 30 year old keyboard.

...And you know the unique legends (some of which SP didnt have on file) were made (and paid for) by 7bit from DT? The colorway, and the design predate all of them. But the SA molds for those legends were set up in preparation for Round 6.

Edit: out of deference for Sifo's project, i'll be on topic from here on out.

Sifo those renders look swell, did you decide on 312344 or 3333333 or 112344 or whatever yet?

1-1-2-3-4-4 seemed to be most requested

TerryMathews · « **Reply #320 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:48:35 »

The render looks great. I'm in if it doesn't cost a fortune.

UTEster750 · « **Reply #321 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:50:25 »

Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:10:04

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Still asleep so I'll update properly later including op. I'm sure you guys have seen the new bro reaper, he'll have the proper color chips soon to color match properly.

Just need a name, SP to get back to me about pricing and we're good to go.

Much more interested about the set after seeing some renders!

swimmingbird · « **Reply #322 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 08:19:15 »

Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:10:04

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Still asleep so I'll update properly later including op. I'm sure you guys have seen the new bro reaper, he'll have the proper color chips soon to color match properly.

Just need a name, SP to get back to me about pricing and we're good to go.

where are the photos of the totally original novelties?
^{^{^{^{^{**** mito}}}}}

UsualSuspectXXX · « **Reply #323 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 08:46:12 »

Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:10:04

... the new bro reaper...

OMG yes! What a perfect accent to this set!

romevi · « **Reply #324 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 08:50:23 »

Okay, that's pretty Sexy.

nathanrosspowell · « **Reply #325 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 09:27:30 »

This has my interest Sifbro

dohbot · « **Reply #326 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 10:09:02 »

This sounds pretty cool seeing the mockup made me like it a whole lot better than the initial idea. I'll be following this thread.

Vittra · « **Reply #327 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 10:11:38 »

Yeah, the renders definitely showcase how nice this set is.

braidn · « **Reply #328 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 10:13:50 »

Absolutely in. Especially since it's going to be a simple set with no children like Hacked

justify · « **Reply #329 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:06:36 »

where's the DT and the reddit keycaps? S:

Sifo · « **Reply #330 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:07:41 »

if that's a problem I'll just remove the gh keys.

duckness · « **Reply #331 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:08:55 »

Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:10:04

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Still asleep so I'll update properly later including op. I'm sure you guys have seen the new bro reaper, he'll have the proper color chips soon to color match properly.

Just need a name, SP to get back to me about pricing and we're good to go.

Why is it "WIN" key for 1u but "SUPER" key for 1.25u?

Melvang · « **Reply #332 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:19:42 »

Did I see JD40 compatibility, or am I missing something?

Sifo · « **Reply #333 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:22:46 »

Quote from: Melvang on Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:19:42

Did I see JD40 compatibility, or am I missing something?

Is there not? I'm not very familiar with all the different layouts we have now. I'll update the profiles so you can see but if I accidentally crossed out a key or two let me know.

Also I'll have the legends fixed for consistency, thank you for spotting that.

Sifo · « **Reply #334 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:42:43 »

I don't think super will fit on the 1x keys and not sure if people want win on the 1.25x

I will also add a row 2 1x backspace for jd40 and I think that covers that layout?

duckness · « **Reply #335 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:48:57 »

Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:42:43

I don't think super will fit on the 1x keys

Ahh right. I'm retarded

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Ail · « **Reply #336 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:52:44 »

Hey everyone.

New poster, read about Pulse2 on reddit and was really excited until I read all the drama. I can't bring myself to buy that set, but I am down for this one if it gets off the ground.

Cheers.

FLFisherman · « **Reply #337 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:58:02 »

Quote from: Ail on Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:52:44

Hey everyone.

New poster, read about Pulse2 on reddit and was really excited until I read all the drama. I can't bring myself to buy that set, but I am down for this one if it gets off the ground.

Cheers.

Honestly, I think both sets are going to have to wait a little while because it seems as though SP is booked through on SA sets until April (according to this keycap status page on Pimp My Keyboard).

Ail · « **Reply #338 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 12:01:27 »

Quote from: FLFisherman on Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:58:02

Quote from: Ail on Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:52:44
Hey everyone.

New poster, read about Pulse2 on reddit and was really excited until I read all the drama. I can't bring myself to buy that set, but I am down for this one if it gets off the ground.

Cheers.

Honestly, I think both sets are going to have to wait a little while because it seems as though SP is booked through on SA sets until April (according to this keycap status page on Pimp My Keyboard).

That's good because I just spent about $500 on Group6 DA leftovers, Granite keys on Massdrop, Gem keys on Massdrop and a few varying portions of sets from PMK. I think I can wait.

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Dernubenfrieken · « **Reply #339 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 12:19:04 »

Quote from: FLFisherman on Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:58:02

Quote from: Ail on Sun, 24 January 2016, 11:52:44
Hey everyone.

New poster, read about Pulse2 on reddit and was really excited until I read all the drama. I can't bring myself to buy that set, but I am down for this one if it gets off the ground.

Cheers.

Honestly, I think both sets are going to have to wait a little while because it seems as though SP is booked through on SA sets until April (according to this keycap status page on Pimp My Keyboard).

Thats what makes me think the whole pulse R2 thing is so silly. He already wants to push another SA set at the same time, its not like this stuff is going to get made anytime soon.

Zapheo · « **Reply #340 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 12:22:47 »

Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:10:04

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Still asleep so I'll update properly later including op. I'm sure you guys have seen the new bro reaper, he'll have the proper color chips soon to color match properly.

Just need a name, SP to get back to me about pricing and we're good to go.

Sweet mother... I'm so in.

alexjd99 · « **Reply #341 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 12:31:33 »

Glad I wasn't in the first Pulse gb. I didn't realize how ugly that blue is until I compared it to BBJ.

And I'd be more than happy to give my money to someone who's not a complete thunder ****

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LXXXIX · « **Reply #342 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 12:37:31 »

This has a good following already. I'm sure this will make it.

sherryton · « **Reply #343 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 13:40:29 »

Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 24 January 2016, 07:10:04

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Still asleep so I'll update properly later including op. I'm sure you guys have seen the new bro reaper, he'll have the proper color chips soon to color match properly.

Just need a name, SP to get back to me about pricing and we're good to go.

Looking good!

Hispes · « **Reply #344 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 13:41:20 »

Quote from: LXXXIX on Sun, 24 January 2016, 12:37:31

This has a good following already. I'm sure this will make it.

*wrings hands*

I'm going to play each side and buy both sets.

Dance, Puppets, dance! muah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Sifo · « **Reply #345 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 13:47:53 »

Just got on my computer, idk why geekhack/imgur is compressing the renders so much but you can view them properly here

http://imgur.com/a/dLBqX

SJHL · « **Reply #346 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 14:34:05 »

Damn, it looks great!

Guess I have to get my wallet ready again..

Sifo · « **Reply #347 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 14:48:51 »

Awaiting quote and time slots from SP!

Also we are going with FLATLINE.

HPE1000 · « **Reply #348 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 14:53:18 »

Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 24 January 2016, 14:48:51

Awaiting quote and time slots from SP!

Also we are going with FLATLINE.

Flatline sounds good m8

Glenmael · « **Reply #349 on:** Sun, 24 January 2016, 14:55:18 »

Quote from: Sifo on Sun, 24 January 2016, 14:48:51

Awaiting quote and time slots from SP!

Also we are going with FLATLINE.

Great name, in for a set

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Author Topic: [IC] Flatline Black and Cyan SA profile keyset (on hold see OP) (Read 183757 times)