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Title: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40% (GB details posted)
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 22 June 2019, 03:37:05
Introducing the Equinox, a custom keyboard designed for premium aesthetics and typing feel in a compact package.

(https://i.imgur.com/tSSgfgc.jpg)




(https://i.imgur.com/LEH3w4o.png)
Beyond the Typical
Equinox skips the plate to offer maximum flex.  The PCB is secured by its tabs from below by rubber gaskets directly to the case, earning the name of tabbed "gasket" PCB mount.

(https://i.imgur.com/BfT6eUL.png)
Compact and Classy
The winkeyless blockers have been implemented for a classic aesthetic, regardless of the board’s small footprint. An internal weight adds sufficient mass for use at a desk, while the all-aluminum exterior provides durability on the go.


Specs & Features:
- 6° typing angle
- Case material TBD
- 17.25mm front height
- QMK PCB designed by ai03 with VIA support
- Backlight & Underglow LED support
- Optional CF plate will be available during GB, we will also open source the plate file should you want a different material.
- Brass internal "weight" (Sandblasted & Coated)
- Weight: 740g fully assembled
- Case colors: TBD
- Cost: TBD
- GB Date: TBD
- Vendor: Cannonkeys


Supported Layouts:
(https://i.imgur.com/jn7oe32.png)


A Long History:
12/17/2017 - Begin project
02/16/2018 - Prototype PCB batch 1 arrives
07/01/2018 - Forgot about the existence of the project by this time
01/30/2019 - Remember about the existence of the project; begin case/PCB redesign
02/03/2019 - Finish PCB and case redesign
03/16/2019 - First batch production begins
06/15/2019 - First batch shipped to testers
06/19/2019 - Units receive favorable feedback from testers; GB preparation begins


FAQ:
"WHY?" - Because.
"ne ____ avail?" -  :-X
"Unlimited GB?" - No, sorry.  Exact number will be decided with Upas of Cannonkeys.


Renders:
(https://i.imgur.com/BfT6eUL.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/QF2d5Ic.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/YtCmFjr.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/iuKozVv.png)


Prototypes:
(https://i.imgur.com/tSSgfgc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/t7XvcwJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/cWf9oB8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/WYMka7i.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mcn3N1K.jpg)


Special thanks:
ai03 - For being a bad influence and encouraging my bad ideas
Wilba & Olivia - For the VIA support! <2
Upas - For offering to help run a GB
The prototype supporters who helped support bad ideas
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 22 June 2019, 03:37:20
(https://i.imgur.com/L5aNwYT.png)


And now for the GB details:

Launching September 28th, 2019 via

Cannonkeys - $270 + shipping (100 units)
Mykeyboard - TBA (30 units)
Yushakobo - 29500jpy incl ship, excl tax of 10% (unlimited)

Layouts:
Top with either wkl blockers or without

Colors:
Black
Blue Grey - 8181c
Rose Gold - 7520c
Dark Grey - RAL 7016
Japan Blue - 7700c (Japan Exclusive)
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: kawasaki161 on Sat, 22 June 2019, 03:40:28
Finally a nice case for the Contra :thumb:

Still think TMO50 is better tho.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: piit79 on Sat, 22 June 2019, 03:42:41
Looks nice. WKL not for me tho. I prefer function over form ;)
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: Jae-3soteric on Sat, 22 June 2019, 03:44:02
So in for this. It looks great!!
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Sat, 22 June 2019, 03:47:30
Wow. Yes. So good.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: OracleKev on Sat, 22 June 2019, 03:50:01
Really like the layout
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: Macmutant on Sat, 22 June 2019, 03:53:10
I like it. Color me interested.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: Wilba on Sat, 22 June 2019, 04:13:58
If this had a brass plate and was compact 1800 southpaw layout with at least two knobs and a vertical 2U inserted in somewhere, I would totally buy this.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: kawaiicheung on Sat, 22 June 2019, 04:29:32
Quite a nice design! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

But as a 40% keyboard user, I really hope a regular top case like Polaris then I would absolutely in.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: EMC Labs on Sat, 22 June 2019, 04:42:20
Hmm, okay.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: RETURNISO on Sat, 22 June 2019, 04:57:25
In  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: victorpre on Sat, 22 June 2019, 06:47:40
Noice :D

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Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: tex_live_utility on Sat, 22 June 2019, 07:36:31
Yes yes yes yes. Never been so "in" anything in my life.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: audiosl4ve on Sat, 22 June 2019, 07:47:10
Looking awesome!  :thumb: :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: rope on Sat, 22 June 2019, 08:01:47
so cute, yes please
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: duckboi on Sat, 22 June 2019, 08:19:09
What does the bottom look like? always curious to see how the bottoms of boards are executed
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 22 June 2019, 08:30:03
What does the bottom look like? always curious to see how the bottoms of boards are executed

(https://i.imgur.com/vcW69tT.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: nasp on Sat, 22 June 2019, 08:43:01
If price is low, this might be my first 40!
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: TuCZnak on Sat, 22 June 2019, 08:53:42
Looks cool, winkey variant would help for folks that prefer function over blocker aesthetics. It's hard to afford dropping 2 keys on a 40%...
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: homerowco on Sat, 22 June 2019, 08:58:27
wouldn’t you need to open up the usb-c port cutout to give space when it moves up/down/angle?
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: cijanzen on Sat, 22 June 2019, 09:02:37
This is a terrible, horrible, no good idea. I hope to see it succeed!
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: ideus on Sat, 22 June 2019, 09:18:55
Is this a first for ISO enter on a 40 layout? That is a great idea. I am not sure if a 40 can be my daily driver; but this is attractive enough to be under consideration.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: TheMnBN on Sat, 22 June 2019, 09:27:25
This is the first time I'm excited for a 40%  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: Zambumon on Sat, 22 June 2019, 09:30:35
wouldn’t you need to open up the usb-c port cutout to give space when it moves up/down/angle?

It doesn't move THAT much to need a huge USB-C hole
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Sat, 22 June 2019, 09:46:11
I hear you guys like impractical layouts. https://imgur.com/a/xt5ifEi
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: Pwner on Sat, 22 June 2019, 09:59:05
Looks cool, winkey variant would help for folks that prefer function over blocker aesthetics. It's hard to afford dropping 2 keys on a 40%...

That's not entirely out of consideration, we wanted to see what kind of interest there is before adding other options.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: quatho_ on Sat, 22 June 2019, 10:01:45
I'm drooling allover this today. Super excited to see a 40% done this way! Nice stuff.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: equalunique on Sat, 22 June 2019, 10:07:55
Usually I see staggered 40% boards and think to myself: "lol why would any sane person want to use this over a planck"

This board however has really got my interest. The layout in the renders basically has my favorite kind of spacebar (almost same as 2.25u+1.25u+2.75u), ISO enter, and symmetric mods on the left and right (ppl who don't use right mods scare me). A lot of design choices that I like. Def willing to give it a go!

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Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: Wilba on Sat, 22 June 2019, 10:13:44
Looks cool, winkey variant would help for folks that prefer function over blocker aesthetics. It's hard to afford dropping 2 keys on a 40%...

That's not entirely out of consideration, we wanted to see what kind of interest there is before adding other options.

DIPLOMACY 100
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: xondat on Sat, 22 June 2019, 10:18:49
Thank you Pwner, very cool!
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: vosechu on Sat, 22 June 2019, 10:26:43
Very cool. I’m an ortho user and even I want one of these!
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: eastern_thug on Sat, 22 June 2019, 13:22:37
Keeping an eye on this one. Liking the internal weight and layout. Excited to see color options.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: Acereconkeys on Sat, 22 June 2019, 14:13:37
I absolutely love the "top surrounds bottom" design on small boards like a 40%. It just fits so nicely since the small height means the top doesn't stick out awkwardly.

I agree with other commentors, the only problem I have with this board is the bottom row. Regardless of WKL, for me personally, that position for the spacebar makes this not comfortable to use.

Here's my suggestion:

(https://i.imgur.com/2lVwNR7.png)

The benefits of making the board WKL 1.5 instead of the 1.25 and removing the 1u is that it puts the split space keys in positions where your thumbs rest when sitting on the home row making using the keyboard with split space much more comfortable. Of course this has the big drawback of removing the option for using full size spacebar. That's unfortunate for some but for me it's necessary.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: tex_live_utility on Sat, 22 June 2019, 14:28:51
I absolutely love the "top surrounds bottom" design on small boards like a 40%. It just fits so nicely since the small height means the top doesn't stick out awkwardly.

I agree with other commentors, the only problem I have with this board is the bottom row. Regardless of WKL, for me personally, that position for the spacebar makes this not comfortable to use.

Here's my suggestion:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/2lVwNR7.png)


The benefits of making the board WKL 1.5 instead of the 1.25 and removing the 1u is that it puts the split space keys in positions where your thumbs rest when sitting on the home row making using the keyboard with split space much more comfortable. Of course this has the big drawback of removing the option for using full size spacebar. That's unfortunate for some but for me it's necessary.

+1 for the 2.75/2.25 design. It puts the split right under the B key (equally-spaced between F and J), which I think keeps the split "out of the way" for most users.

I know this board started life as a joke, but since everything else on it is actually good, you might as well make the spacebar split good as well.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: upas on Sat, 22 June 2019, 21:07:08
I absolutely love the "top surrounds bottom" design on small boards like a 40%. It just fits so nicely since the small height means the top doesn't stick out awkwardly.

I agree with other commentors, the only problem I have with this board is the bottom row. Regardless of WKL, for me personally, that position for the spacebar makes this not comfortable to use.

Here's my suggestion:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/2lVwNR7.png)


The benefits of making the board WKL 1.5 instead of the 1.25 and removing the 1u is that it puts the split space keys in positions where your thumbs rest when sitting on the home row making using the keyboard with split space much more comfortable. Of course this has the big drawback of removing the option for using full size spacebar. That's unfortunate for some but for me it's necessary.

+1 for the 2.75/2.25 design. It puts the split right under the B key (equally-spaced between F and J), which I think keeps the split "out of the way" for most users.

I know this board started life as a joke, but since everything else on it is actually good, you might as well make the spacebar split good as well.

Personally, as someone who hasn't used a ton of 40% boards, but uses 60% with split spacebar, I would prefer if the layout stayed the same as shown.

I had the pleasure of receiving one of the prototypes, and honestly, it's the only 40% I've gotten comfortable typing on (though I do still make mistakes), despite having tried other 40%s in the past.
I think a lot of the reason for this is the familiarity coming from the 60% splits.

It's kind of unfair to say "since everything else on it is actually good, you might as well make the spacebar split good as well", because that implies the current spacebar split isn't good. Maybe it's not optimal for you, but that doesn't make it bad.
I think this 2.25/1/2.75 split space is better. And furthermore, I think the blockers with 1.25U mods look way better as well.

At the end of the day, it all boils down to preference. I'm happy to see this split on a 40%, and I really hope pwner and ai03 leave it the same.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: Acereconkeys on Sat, 22 June 2019, 22:24:25
I absolutely love the "top surrounds bottom" design on small boards like a 40%. It just fits so nicely since the small height means the top doesn't stick out awkwardly.

I agree with other commentors, the only problem I have with this board is the bottom row. Regardless of WKL, for me personally, that position for the spacebar makes this not comfortable to use.

Here's my suggestion:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/2lVwNR7.png)


The benefits of making the board WKL 1.5 instead of the 1.25 and removing the 1u is that it puts the split space keys in positions where your thumbs rest when sitting on the home row making using the keyboard with split space much more comfortable. Of course this has the big drawback of removing the option for using full size spacebar. That's unfortunate for some but for me it's necessary.

+1 for the 2.75/2.25 design. It puts the split right under the B key (equally-spaced between F and J), which I think keeps the split "out of the way" for most users.

I know this board started life as a joke, but since everything else on it is actually good, you might as well make the spacebar split good as well.

Personally, as someone who hasn't used a ton of 40% boards, but uses 60% with split spacebar, I would prefer if the layout stayed the same as shown.

I had the pleasure of receiving one of the prototypes, and honestly, it's the only 40% I've gotten comfortable typing on (though I do still make mistakes), despite having tried other 40%s in the past.
I think a lot of the reason for this is the familiarity coming from the 60% splits.

It's kind of unfair to say "since everything else on it is actually good, you might as well make the spacebar split good as well", because that implies the current spacebar split isn't good. Maybe it's not optimal for you, but that doesn't make it bad.
I think this 2.25/1/2.75 split space is better. And furthermore, I think the blockers with 1.25U mods look way better as well.

At the end of the day, it all boils down to preference. I'm happy to see this split on a 40%, and I really hope pwner and ai03 leave it the same.

I mean no offense to the designers of the board but the current split split space isn't good in my opinion. You're absolutely right I think it's good/bad based on what's optimal for me but this is an interest check designed to gather feedback no?

About the aesthetics of 1.5 vs 1.25u mods that's an interesting one I think it may be easier to compare options if a full/proper render was done with 1.5u mods but my gut says it'd look better than the current option. Again, just my opinion of course. It'd be a call back to the "real" WKL of 1.5u mods. Another thing that removing the 1.25u in the middle does it that it puts the split between spacebars riiiight down the center which is Noice aesthetically i think.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: equalunique on Sat, 22 June 2019, 22:39:45
Is there another board out there that supports this type of bottom row?

1.25u+1u+1.25u+2.25u+1u+2.75u+1.25u+1u+1.25u

If not, then why not let this board be the first?

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Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Sat, 22 June 2019, 22:52:24
I absolutely love the "top surrounds bottom" design on small boards like a 40%. It just fits so nicely since the small height means the top doesn't stick out awkwardly.

I agree with other commentors, the only problem I have with this board is the bottom row. Regardless of WKL, for me personally, that position for the spacebar makes this not comfortable to use.

Here's my suggestion:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/2lVwNR7.png)


The benefits of making the board WKL 1.5 instead of the 1.25 and removing the 1u is that it puts the split space keys in positions where your thumbs rest when sitting on the home row making using the keyboard with split space much more comfortable. Of course this has the big drawback of removing the option for using full size spacebar. That's unfortunate for some but for me it's necessary.

+1 for the 2.75/2.25 design. It puts the split right under the B key (equally-spaced between F and J), which I think keeps the split "out of the way" for most users.

I know this board started life as a joke, but since everything else on it is actually good, you might as well make the spacebar split good as well.

Personally, as someone who hasn't used a ton of 40% boards, but uses 60% with split spacebar, I would prefer if the layout stayed the same as shown.

I had the pleasure of receiving one of the prototypes, and honestly, it's the only 40% I've gotten comfortable typing on (though I do still make mistakes), despite having tried other 40%s in the past.
I think a lot of the reason for this is the familiarity coming from the 60% splits.

It's kind of unfair to say "since everything else on it is actually good, you might as well make the spacebar split good as well", because that implies the current spacebar split isn't good. Maybe it's not optimal for you, but that doesn't make it bad.
I think this 2.25/1/2.75 split space is better. And furthermore, I think the blockers with 1.25U mods look way better as well.

At the end of the day, it all boils down to preference. I'm happy to see this split on a 40%, and I really hope pwner and ai03 leave it the same.

I mean no offense to the designers of the board but the current split split space isn't good in my opinion. You're absolutely right I think it's good/bad based on what's optimal for me but this is an interest check designed to gather feedback no?

About the aesthetics of 1.5 vs 1.25u mods that's an interesting one I think it may be easier to compare options if a full/proper render was done with 1.5u mods but my gut says it'd look better than the current option. Again, just my opinion of course. It'd be a call back to the "real" WKL of 1.5u mods. Another thing that removing the 1.25u in the middle does it that it puts the split between spacebars riiiight down the center which is Noice aesthetically i think.
So you essentially want to force split space because you don't like having a 1u in the middle?
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: cepate11 on Sat, 22 June 2019, 23:17:43
In like Flynt!
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: Acereconkeys on Sun, 23 June 2019, 00:15:11

+1 for the 2.75/2.25 design. It puts the split right under the B key (equally-spaced between F and J), which I think keeps the split "out of the way" for most users.

I know this board started life as a joke, but since everything else on it is actually good, you might as well make the spacebar split good as well.

Personally, as someone who hasn't used a ton of 40% boards, but uses 60% with split spacebar, I would prefer if the layout stayed the same as shown.

I had the pleasure of receiving one of the prototypes, and honestly, it's the only 40% I've gotten comfortable typing on (though I do still make mistakes), despite having tried other 40%s in the past.
I think a lot of the reason for this is the familiarity coming from the 60% splits.

It's kind of unfair to say "since everything else on it is actually good, you might as well make the spacebar split good as well", because that implies the current spacebar split isn't good. Maybe it's not optimal for you, but that doesn't make it bad.
I think this 2.25/1/2.75 split space is better. And furthermore, I think the blockers with 1.25U mods look way better as well.

At the end of the day, it all boils down to preference. I'm happy to see this split on a 40%, and I really hope pwner and ai03 leave it the same.

I mean no offense to the designers of the board but the current split split space isn't good in my opinion. You're absolutely right I think it's good/bad based on what's optimal for me but this is an interest check designed to gather feedback no?

About the aesthetics of 1.5 vs 1.25u mods that's an interesting one I think it may be easier to compare options if a full/proper render was done with 1.5u mods but my gut says it'd look better than the current option. Again, just my opinion of course. It'd be a call back to the "real" WKL of 1.5u mods. Another thing that removing the 1.25u in the middle does it that it puts the split between spacebars riiiight down the center which is Noice aesthetically i think.
So you essentially want to force split space because you don't like having a 1u in the middle?

Yup. Just my personal suggestion of course, it's absolutely up to the designers to do what they want I'm not demanding they do that.

I've been informed through the discord I can edit the pcb to fit the layout I'm looking for which means that I am 100% in!
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: crd on Sun, 23 June 2019, 01:14:43
This looks super close to a 40% I could actually use. I’ll probably still jump on in the current iteration but corner blockers are my personal preference over WKL. This has a lot of potential. I’m glad to see it getting enough interest to run. Best of luck.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: nasp on Sun, 23 June 2019, 01:15:48
@acereconkeys Is it just a one off PCB then? Won't assembly be expensive or are you planning on cooking it up yourself?
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: Jkshowman on Sun, 23 June 2019, 02:47:45
sign me up omg, going to skip on polaris for this LOL
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: Nigolski on Sun, 23 June 2019, 04:21:31
woah
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: vicissitude on Sun, 23 June 2019, 04:24:21
Wooooow.
This is so cool.
Love this design.  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: blakstealth on Sun, 23 June 2019, 09:22:37
This is a cute keyboard. I want one!
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: equalunique on Sun, 23 June 2019, 10:43:57
Hoping the blue annodization shown on the blue case is gonna happen. Would be ok with a darker blue too.

Sent from my LG-H918 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: tex_live_utility on Sun, 23 June 2019, 15:08:01
I absolutely love the "top surrounds bottom" design on small boards like a 40%. It just fits so nicely since the small height means the top doesn't stick out awkwardly.

I agree with other commentors, the only problem I have with this board is the bottom row. Regardless of WKL, for me personally, that position for the spacebar makes this not comfortable to use.

Here's my suggestion:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/2lVwNR7.png)


The benefits of making the board WKL 1.5 instead of the 1.25 and removing the 1u is that it puts the split space keys in positions where your thumbs rest when sitting on the home row making using the keyboard with split space much more comfortable. Of course this has the big drawback of removing the option for using full size spacebar. That's unfortunate for some but for me it's necessary.

+1 for the 2.75/2.25 design. It puts the split right under the B key (equally-spaced between F and J), which I think keeps the split "out of the way" for most users.

I know this board started life as a joke, but since everything else on it is actually good, you might as well make the spacebar split good as well.

Personally, as someone who hasn't used a ton of 40% boards, but uses 60% with split spacebar, I would prefer if the layout stayed the same as shown.

I had the pleasure of receiving one of the prototypes, and honestly, it's the only 40% I've gotten comfortable typing on (though I do still make mistakes), despite having tried other 40%s in the past.
I think a lot of the reason for this is the familiarity coming from the 60% splits.

It's kind of unfair to say "since everything else on it is actually good, you might as well make the spacebar split good as well", because that implies the current spacebar split isn't good. Maybe it's not optimal for you, but that doesn't make it bad.
I think this 2.25/1/2.75 split space is better. And furthermore, I think the blockers with 1.25U mods look way better as well.

At the end of the day, it all boils down to preference. I'm happy to see this split on a 40%, and I really hope pwner and ai03 leave it the same.

I mean no offense to the designers of the board but the current split split space isn't good in my opinion. You're absolutely right I think it's good/bad based on what's optimal for me but this is an interest check designed to gather feedback no?

About the aesthetics of 1.5 vs 1.25u mods that's an interesting one I think it may be easier to compare options if a full/proper render was done with 1.5u mods but my gut says it'd look better than the current option. Again, just my opinion of course. It'd be a call back to the "real" WKL of 1.5u mods. Another thing that removing the 1.25u in the middle does it that it puts the split between spacebars riiiight down the center which is Noice aesthetically i think.
So you essentially want to force split space because you don't like having a 1u in the middle?
No? I'd like to have the split options + 6u.

If that's not possible due to PCB design constraints, that's another story.

Edit: I realize that my comment came across as "the current split layout is bad". That's not what I meant, but I see why it looks that way. I was trying to head off the "it's a meme anyway who cares?" response. I personally don't like it, and I know a few other people don't either. So I wanted to make that known.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: MMKB on Sun, 23 June 2019, 15:52:50
Crazy but I like how proper it looks. Going to join the GB no matter what.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: MMKB on Sun, 23 June 2019, 16:10:03
I absolutely love the "top surrounds bottom" design on small boards like a 40%. It just fits so nicely since the small height means the top doesn't stick out awkwardly.

I agree with other commentors, the only problem I have with this board is the bottom row. Regardless of WKL, for me personally, that position for the spacebar makes this not comfortable to use.

Here's my suggestion:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/2lVwNR7.png)


The benefits of making the board WKL 1.5 instead of the 1.25 and removing the 1u is that it puts the split space keys in positions where your thumbs rest when sitting on the home row making using the keyboard with split space much more comfortable. Of course this has the big drawback of removing the option for using full size spacebar. That's unfortunate for some but for me it's necessary.

Personally I like this. Less cluttered compared to the 3-piece split spacebars.

On the other hand, for those who use 6u spacebars, how would you source 6u stabs? Do you just bend & clip a 7u stab?
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Sun, 23 June 2019, 16:42:28
I absolutely love the "top surrounds bottom" design on small boards like a 40%. It just fits so nicely since the small height means the top doesn't stick out awkwardly.

I agree with other commentors, the only problem I have with this board is the bottom row. Regardless of WKL, for me personally, that position for the spacebar makes this not comfortable to use.

Here's my suggestion:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/2lVwNR7.png)


The benefits of making the board WKL 1.5 instead of the 1.25 and removing the 1u is that it puts the split space keys in positions where your thumbs rest when sitting on the home row making using the keyboard with split space much more comfortable. Of course this has the big drawback of removing the option for using full size spacebar. That's unfortunate for some but for me it's necessary.

Personally I like this. Less cluttered compared to the 3-piece split spacebars.

On the other hand, for those who use 6u spacebars, how would you source 6u stabs? Do you just bend & clip a 7u stab?
You buy a 6u stab. :/
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: xondat on Sun, 23 June 2019, 16:43:06
I absolutely love the "top surrounds bottom" design on small boards like a 40%. It just fits so nicely since the small height means the top doesn't stick out awkwardly.

I agree with other commentors, the only problem I have with this board is the bottom row. Regardless of WKL, for me personally, that position for the spacebar makes this not comfortable to use.

Here's my suggestion:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/2lVwNR7.png)


The benefits of making the board WKL 1.5 instead of the 1.25 and removing the 1u is that it puts the split space keys in positions where your thumbs rest when sitting on the home row making using the keyboard with split space much more comfortable. Of course this has the big drawback of removing the option for using full size spacebar. That's unfortunate for some but for me it's necessary.

Personally I like this. Less cluttered compared to the 3-piece split spacebars.

On the other hand, for those who use 6u spacebars, how would you source 6u stabs? Do you just bend & clip a 7u stab?

You buy a 6u stab. :/

From where?
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: InvidiousIgnoramus on Sun, 23 June 2019, 16:45:31




From where?

Come on, Xondat. Google isn't that hard to use.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: ideus on Sun, 23 June 2019, 17:00:23
I absolutely love the "top surrounds bottom" design on small boards like a 40%. It just fits so nicely since the small height means the top doesn't stick out awkwardly.

I agree with other commentors, the only problem I have with this board is the bottom row. Regardless of WKL, for me personally, that position for the spacebar makes this not comfortable to use.

Here's my suggestion:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/2lVwNR7.png)


The benefits of making the board WKL 1.5 instead of the 1.25 and removing the 1u is that it puts the split space keys in positions where your thumbs rest when sitting on the home row making using the keyboard with split space much more comfortable. Of course this has the big drawback of removing the option for using full size spacebar. That's unfortunate for some but for me it's necessary.

Personally I like this. Less cluttered compared to the 3-piece split spacebars.

On the other hand, for those who use 6u spacebars, how would you source 6u stabs? Do you just bend & clip a 7u stab?

You buy a 6u stab. :/

From where?


kbdfans has them for sale and on hand.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: worldspawn on Mon, 24 June 2019, 09:14:44
3 way split space is 10/10 great looking board! definitely in on this as long as the price isn't too crazy.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: Visionaire on Mon, 24 June 2019, 15:54:57
The craziness of WKL, Split Space 40 with an ISO enter is great. I can't wait to see more. I hope the pricing works out to be reasonable.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: ideus on Mon, 24 June 2019, 16:30:28
I may give the EQNX a try. Even when I have not acclimated to any under 60% keyboard yet.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: ejewell89 on Tue, 25 June 2019, 22:52:52
Think I'm in
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: dilbertprogrammer on Fri, 28 June 2019, 11:47:27
Looks great! Looking forward to seeing prices / GB launch!   :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: roostrc0gburn on Sat, 29 June 2019, 12:06:12
interested to see where the price ends up on this
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: Zytyx on Wed, 03 July 2019, 20:15:02
ngl pretty hype for this! Looks like a nice companion for the sebright.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: Artemie on Wed, 10 July 2019, 09:27:42
Excited to join for TMO Equinox!
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: ctrl on Thu, 22 August 2019, 05:09:54
Any news? I'm really stoked on this one!

The only thing on my wishlist here would be an additional column to the right. This would allow for DVORAK layouts as well. And because this keeb is already so damn awesome, while it doesn't allow for regular Nordic layouts, an additional column would allow for full Nordic DVORAK (basing this on the official Norwegian layout which is also fully implementable for Swedish, Danish and Finnish).

Either way, this is too cool to pass up on! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: Pwner on Thu, 22 August 2019, 06:35:37
Any news? I'm really stoked on this one!

Yes, GB details coming very soon.

Also relevant:

(https://i.imgur.com/er5jNWA.png)
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: ctrl on Thu, 22 August 2019, 08:36:40
Any news? I'm really stoked on this one!

Yes, GB details coming very soon.

Also relevant:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/er5jNWA.png)


Sweet! That'd allow for layouts such as the following freak Swedish DVORAK layout:

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 :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: ejewell89 on Thu, 22 August 2019, 13:18:07
huge fan of the triple split space layout. that's what i have on all of my TGR boards.
And clearly Sam is doing something right. 

(https://imgur.com/w9VOJAg.jpg)

having the reversible split layout can actually afford you to do a symmetrical spacebar split, if you want. Which is a big draw for me. 

That said, I would prefer if the 'alt' keys were 1u maybe? making the blockers 1.25. the way it currently breaks on the left side isn't staggered and it just looks off to me.

(https://imgur.com/P9HQ7ob.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: MMKB on Thu, 22 August 2019, 13:56:55
Any news? I'm really stoked on this one!

Yes, GB details coming very soon.

Also relevant:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/er5jNWA.png)


Love it! It looks odd but so perfect as well.
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: pino38 on Thu, 22 August 2019, 17:57:59
i want this


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Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40%
Post by: Pwner on Sun, 15 September 2019, 07:18:40
Okay, first a quick update to the supported layouts:

(https://i.imgur.com/L5aNwYT.png)


And now for the GB details:

Launching September 28th, 2019 via

Cannonkeys - $270 + shipping (100 units)
Mykeyboard - TBA (30 units)
Yushakobo - 29500jpy incl ship, excl tax of 10% (unlimited)

Layouts:
Top with either wkl blockers or without

Colors:
Black
Blue Grey - 8181c
Rose Gold - 7520c
Dark Grey - RAL 7016
Japan Blue - 7700c (Japan Exclusive)
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40% (GB details posted)
Post by: Lil on Sun, 15 September 2019, 07:54:16
If it's unlimited units from japan, does that mean we can just order internationally from there if the rest of the spots get taken?

Edit: their store doesn't ship outside of Japan from what I can see
Title: Re: [IC] ION x ai03: Equinox | WKL 40% (GB details posted)
Post by: The_Royal on Sun, 15 September 2019, 10:26:45
Okay, first a quick update to the supported layouts:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/L5aNwYT.png)



And now for the GB details:

Launching September 28th, 2019 via

Cannonkeys - $270 + shipping (100 units)
Mykeyboard - TBA (30 units)
Yushakobo - 29500jpy incl ship, excl tax of 10% (unlimited)

Layouts:
Top with either wkl blockers or without

Colors:
Black
Blue Grey - 8181c
Rose Gold - 7520c
Dark Grey - RAL 7016
Japan Blue - 7700c (Japan Exclusive)


How Long of a Turnaround time are you estimating?