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Title: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps (taken over, new link in OP)
Post by: hineybush on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:08:41
My friend PigeonsLB has taken this over, find his IC here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113525.0

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Hi

Had an idea, I wanna do some WoB Alps-mount caps in DCS profile by Signature Plastics. I've been in contact with Melissa over there about them, and I'm working on figuring out kits. I'd like to eventually do a beige-based set, gonna send some GMK 9009 caps over to SP so they can give me some good color chip recs so I don't have to buy 50 different ones.

The challenges atm are if I want to split out random stuff like ISO, Bottom row stuff (like a Tsangan/WKL + AEK + HHKB bottom row kit), 40's (pictured below) etc. so please give me input on what would actually be worth covering.

latest update (June 11, 2020):

so I talked to SP. here are the updates:

- they only have MX stabilizer stem, Alps switch stem caps. so there won't be any option for Alps/Costar stab inserts.
- pricing seems good, a base kit would be about ~$120 USD.
- regarding legends, I have to pretty much hand-pick these so it will go one of two ways: either the Cherry style like DCS Midnight (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dcs-midnight-keyset/) or the Wyse style like their "black & white" set (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dcs-black-white-keysets/). Either one would be cool IMO, sort of leaning towards the Cherry style but that's just me.

Latest kits:

(https://i.imgur.com/8Ctf9oq.png)


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Current kit sheets as far as I can figure out so far:

base
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616332077796818984/616334310873497605/unknown.png)

spacebar and 40's
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616332077796818984/616332168750432258/unknown.png)

Legends would be the classic DCS ones, like this:
(https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=84502.0;attach=147391;image)

afaik they only have MX-mount stab mounting, but I can ask if they have the classic alps style too.

tyvm, lmk what else would be worth doing.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: fcoury on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:09:03
Yes, please!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Kokaloo on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:09:27
praise ****ing jesus
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Rob27shred on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:10:32
100% behind this! Thanks Hiney!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: gaynut on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:11:00
yes
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Capsy on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:11:39
Yes.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: elli on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:12:25
albs
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:16:17
i'm in
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: nasp on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:19:04
R3 1u Ctrl in 40s kit please
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: TheArcticFox_27 on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:32:21
I'm down for some more WoB
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: jrs on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:33:13
Yes
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Krelbit on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:35:15
alps is ****

im ****
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: LightningXI on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:36:02
alps is ****

im ****
No u


Wait...

I'm interested. Anyway.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Kokaloo on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:36:20
alps is ****

im ****
handarbeit isn't **** so it cancels out right
Title: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: nguyenhimself on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:48:34
On one hand, more custom Alps keycaps? Hell yeah.
On another, beige and BOW? Boring.
Eh, one step at a time I guess?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:51:11
On one hand, more custom Alps keycaps? Hell yeah.
On another, beige and BOW? Boring.
Eh, one step at a time I guess?

yep, one step at a time. I'd like to start with the classics as I figure they'd sell pretty well and they're easy to adapt to the platform.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Kokaloo on Wed, 28 August 2019, 13:53:50
On one hand, more custom Alps keycaps? Hell yeah.
On another, beige and BOW? Boring.
Eh, one step at a time I guess?
We got DCS Alps Yuri in October too homie
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Taeha Types on Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:01:02
you already know I'm in for this
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: OfTheWild on Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:02:53
I'm in... twice at least.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: TheInverseKey on Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:03:47
Yes, 7u spacebars are needed badly. Also what stab inserts are going to be used?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:08:30
Yes, 7u spacebars are needed badly. Also what stab inserts are going to be used?

At this point I've been informed that these all use MX stab inserts. Sort of a pain, working with some people to see if we can get MX-alps stab inserts made or what other options could be.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: SGRX on Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:19:52
Definitely in for this.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Kokaloo on Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:22:24
Yes, 7u spacebars are needed badly. Also what stab inserts are going to be used?

At this point I've been informed that these all use MX stab inserts. Sort of a pain, working with some people to see if we can get MX-alps stab inserts made or what other options could be.
Matias sells some alps plate to mx cap wires.
Not the best quality but they work.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Gert Fischer on Wed, 28 August 2019, 14:53:15
Get this set in high gear I am all in
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: equalunique on Wed, 28 August 2019, 15:05:47
>40% kit

I'm all in

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Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: t0rk on Wed, 28 August 2019, 15:34:23
Yup yup yup.

In.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: pixelpusher on Wed, 28 August 2019, 15:51:04
Yes, unfortunately we still have this whole stabilizer issue.  I think the best bet is to just have custom boards with alps switch cutouts and cherry PCB stabilizer cutouts.  Unfortunately, this doesn't do a lot to help out with coverage on old boards. 

Any consideration about the style of alps stem used?  I know the Alps Throwback set used the 1Z mount and it was "said" to work better.  (no need to shave super tight stems or worry about them breaking off in the switch)

Also, ima need to pick up some more of those NoS yellow alps b/c they rock.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Mcnos on Wed, 28 August 2019, 16:02:48
Hi thanks
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: djeucalyptus on Wed, 28 August 2019, 16:18:27
Yes. In for at least one kit. Spacebars and 40 kit would be a nice plus, but certainly not a necessity. 7u space would be awesome.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: vikipedeer on Thu, 29 August 2019, 02:15:11
Donr mind if spacebar use mx style mount but please make the >2u mod use Alps style stabilizer
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: EMC Labs on Thu, 29 August 2019, 07:16:03
yep, I'm in/.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Robotical on Thu, 29 August 2019, 07:59:40
Yes please.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Applet on Thu, 29 August 2019, 08:20:02
Yes, please make this.  ;D

I like the kits. No need to split them up more imo. For me, HHKB and Tsangan-support is what I need for buying the set.

Is the 6u space center stem?

I question the 6.5u space, is it compatible with AEK? If not, we could skip that?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: equalunique on Thu, 29 August 2019, 08:54:32
Convex keycaps for the spacebars kit would be amazing, as would be a colevrak kit too

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Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: dallman5 on Thu, 29 August 2019, 09:40:31
I like this

Also in for 9009 whenever that happens

Whatís MOQ for DCS alps?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Findecanor on Thu, 29 August 2019, 13:15:21
I'm pretty sure I've seen inserts for Alps-stabilisers into MX stems on a 3D-printing site somewhere, but I forgot to bookmark it. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, please post a link.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: janglad on Thu, 29 August 2019, 13:30:23
This is nice
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Yakbats on Thu, 29 August 2019, 14:19:00
I'm totally in
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Thu, 29 August 2019, 14:19:20
Interested!

I'm pretty sure I've seen inserts for Alps-stabilisers into MX stems on a 3D-printing site somewhere, but I forgot to bookmark it. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, please post a link.

nubbinator worked on stab inserts to go with his MX to ALPS adapters - it may be a corresponding height though

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=69031.msg1680705#msg1680705
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 29 August 2019, 14:34:36
I like this

Also in for 9009 whenever that happens

Whatís MOQ for DCS alps?

25 but i imagine hiney will set it higher so that the price is reasonable
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: growler on Thu, 29 August 2019, 17:40:46
Noob, PBT or ABS ?

In if PBT....

growler

Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 29 August 2019, 18:59:16
I like this

Also in for 9009 whenever that happens

Whatís MOQ for DCS alps?

25 but i imagine hiney will set it higher so that the price is reasonable

logical MOQ is 100 because I can make the set like $165. Might aim for 200 tho bc then it'd be $125

Noob, PBT or ABS ?

In if PBT....

growler

doubleshot abs
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Mcnos on Thu, 29 August 2019, 19:09:36
I like this

Also in for 9009 whenever that happens

Whatís MOQ for DCS alps?

25 but i imagine hiney will set it higher so that the price is reasonable

logical MOQ is 100 because I can make the set like $165. Might aim for 200 tho bc then it'd be $125

Noob, PBT or ABS ?

In if PBT....

growler

doubleshot abs

Hi,

Can we start GB
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 29 August 2019, 19:28:52
1Z mount stems or the standard ones that you have to shave on matias switches so they donít break?

Iíve done it (shaved and broken), and it sucks. 
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Sifo on Fri, 30 August 2019, 09:09:31
1Z mount stems or the standard ones that you have to shave on matias switches so they donít break?

Iíve done it (shaved and broken), and it sucks. 

same....
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Fri, 30 August 2019, 15:40:26
1Z mount stems or the standard ones that you have to shave on matias switches so they donít break?

Iíve done it (shaved and broken), and it sucks.

Not sure but I can check.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: pixelpusher on Fri, 30 August 2019, 16:19:59
1Z mount stems or the standard ones that you have to shave on matias switches so they donít break?

Iíve done it (shaved and broken), and it sucks.

Not sure but I can check.

I can't speak for the effectiveness of the 1z mount, but what I read about it seems positive.  I bought a set of Alps Throwback to be delivered with my Modern M0110, but yeah... we all know how that Group Buy is doing.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: mountainblocks on Fri, 30 August 2019, 17:01:56
100% in for this one. I definitely prefer MX stab mounts over OG Alps style.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: ZivZulander on Fri, 30 August 2019, 17:06:47
AEK, please! There aren't any good dark AEK-compatible keycap sets, and only a handful of Alps-mount keycap sets, period, so I'm definitely in.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: 82d28a on Fri, 30 August 2019, 20:04:42
100% in for this one. I definitely prefer MX stab mounts over OG Alps style.

Same here. I am in for one set.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: ReDsNoTDeAd on Fri, 30 August 2019, 23:12:24
nice

Also big +1 on the MX style mounts. Those clip and wire getups from old boards suck.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Sheva000 on Tue, 03 September 2019, 07:52:50
please include a R1 ALPS logo novality
Mx stab is perfect, its time to have a project to renew alps pcb and plate file
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: equalunique on Tue, 03 September 2019, 09:08:42
I think the 40% kit would benefit from Raise/Lower keys.

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Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Vox_Reticuli on Tue, 03 September 2019, 09:15:22
Count me in on this. 40% would be a godsend but it does need raise/lower keys.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Applet on Tue, 03 September 2019, 09:36:05
I'm 100% in on this, MX-stabilizer mount suits me, I prefer PCB-mount cherry-stabs. A 1u R1 alps novelty keycap would be dope
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: JerkChicken456 on Wed, 04 September 2019, 02:55:29
oooooh yes. in this 1 hunna
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: wd9001 on Wed, 04 September 2019, 06:29:36
Definitely in on this!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: _rubik on Wed, 04 September 2019, 13:22:56
Oh hell yes -- an Alps set I can get behind! Insta-buy for me
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Rob27shred on Wed, 04 September 2019, 13:44:19
I guess I'm in the minority with wanting the stabilizer stems to be old school ALPS style. Sure they are fiddly to get installed, but once lubed & properly installed I much prefer them over Cherry style. Very little rattle, very little effect on the way the switch operates, & very smooth. Although I do get the convenience of using Cherry style stabilizers especially when most custom boards that support ALPS switches are designed to use Cherry PCB mount. Either way I am still in as there are adapters you can have 3D printed to use ALPS style stabilizers with keycaps that use Chery style stabilizers.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: TeacherGeek on Wed, 04 September 2019, 15:31:07
Really interested, but I assume that this is like a $200 keycap set?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: _rubik on Wed, 04 September 2019, 15:36:08
I guess I'm in the minority with wanting the stabilizer stems to be old school ALPS style. Sure they are fiddly to get installed, but once lubed & properly installed I much prefer them over Cherry style. Very little rattle, very little effect on the way the switch operates, & very smooth. Although I do get the convenience of using Cherry style stabilizers especially when most custom boards that support ALPS switches are designed to use Cherry PCB mount. Either way I am still in as there are adapters you can have 3D printed to use ALPS style stabilizers with keycaps that use Chery style stabilizers.

You're definitely not in the minority. In fact, I might not buy this set if it _doesn't_ have old school Alps style stabs. Half of the appeal of this set is to use with older Alps boards imho.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: futurecrime on Wed, 04 September 2019, 17:39:02
Probably in for this. Defo in for 9009. Good stuff man.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: kolicivan on Thu, 05 September 2019, 03:30:43
I have a Tai Hao WoB set. It's a pretty good quality for the money.
DCS is not that different profile than OEM, maybe slightly shorter.
And the keycap thickness is comparable to Tai Hao.
But I think Tai Hao no longer has them in stock.

I'm always happy to see new sets coming out for ALPS but if this set is gonna cost the same as ALPS Throwback keycaps I'm gonna pass.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: alisonica on Thu, 05 September 2019, 08:37:50
Herobush saves the day again! 100% in for at least 2 sets
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Kokaloo on Thu, 05 September 2019, 10:20:08
I have a Tai Hao WoB set. It's a pretty good quality for the money.
DCS is not that different profile than OEM, maybe slightly shorter.
And the keycap thickness is comparable to Tai Hao.
But I think Tai Hao no longer has them in stock.

I'm always happy to see new sets coming out for ALPS but if this set is gonna cost the same as ALPS Throwback keycaps I'm gonna pass.
There's some Alps WoB on mechanicalkeyboards.com but they are a bit pricey. Other colorways exist on YMDK's store.
It's still just to exciting to have this variable of compatibility, with so many ALPS PCBs coming out that are in so many different layouts.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 05 September 2019, 11:44:43
At this point it seems like MX stem is the way to go (probably the only way based on SP's molds). Working on hopefully running a slider adapter GB alongside this though.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Dumble_Hub on Thu, 05 September 2019, 11:58:51
I really happy to see more custom alps sets being worked on nowadays but I feel like they are mostly based on the classic beige and white CW. I would really like to see some legendary MX colorways to become alps sets. That's why im 100% getting on the Yuri GB.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: _rubik on Thu, 05 September 2019, 12:09:28
At this point it seems like MX stem is the way to go (probably the only way based on SP's molds). Working on hopefully running a slider adapter GB alongside this though.

Slider adaptors work just as well :thumb: (maybe even better). Herobush does it all, folks!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 05 September 2019, 12:57:36
At this point it seems like MX stem is the way to go (probably the only way based on SP's molds). Working on hopefully running a slider adapter GB alongside this though.

blindassasin had adapters when he ran nexus sliders, just in case someone wants his input/insight
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 05 September 2019, 13:41:40
At this point it seems like MX stem is the way to go (probably the only way based on SP's molds). Working on hopefully running a slider adapter GB alongside this though.

blindassasin had adapters when he ran nexus sliders, just in case someone wants his input/insight

That's who I've been talking to  :p
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Thu, 05 September 2019, 14:03:24
So the current plan is going to be different to how the nexus stab adapters were done. I originally had them 3D printed using material jetting and got them for ~$7/set, not too long after the GB prices shot up to ~$60/set, which really destroyed my hopes of ever being able to support them again.

Current plan is to see if we can possibly get them injection molded, trying to look into how viable this is before anything else is said, I don't want to get anyones hopes up in case prices aren't able to be brought down.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Rob27shred on Thu, 05 September 2019, 15:49:21
So the current plan is going to be different to how the nexus stab adapters were done. I originally had them 3D printed using material jetting and got them for ~$7/set, not too long after the GB prices shot up to ~$60/set, which really destroyed my hopes of ever being able to support them again.

Current plan is to see if we can possibly get them injection molded, trying to look into how viable this is before anything else is said, I don't want to get anyones hopes up in case prices aren't able to be brought down.

What!? They wanted $60 just to make a set of those adapter!? Wow, that is insane because the adapters ending up being pretty disappointing IME, super fragile & stems that were too big. It's almost impossible to get them out of a spacebar without breaking them, even if you put some lube on them. I think injection molded ones would be infinitely better even if they end up being a good bit more expensive than the original run of 3D printed ones IMHO. I know I'd be willing to pay more for something I know can be used more than just once. Also any ideal why the cost of the 3D printed sets shot up so high after you had the batch for the Nexus buy made? $7 per set to $60 is a pretty crazy price hike even if materials got significantly more expensive.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: BlindAssassin111 on Thu, 05 September 2019, 21:44:45
What!? They wanted $60 just to make a set of those adapter!? Wow, that is insane because the adapters ending up being pretty disappointing IME, super fragile & stems that were too big. It's almost impossible to get them out of a spacebar without breaking them, even if you put some lube on them. I think injection molded ones would be infinitely better even if they end up being a good bit more expensive than the original run of 3D printed ones IMHO. I know I'd be willing to pay more for something I know can be used more than just once. Also any ideal why the cost of the 3D printed sets shot up so high after you had the batch for the Nexus buy made? $7 per set to $60 is a pretty crazy price hike even if materials got significantly more expensive.

They were not the best because of printing variations I believe, all of the ones I had were fine but it may have been a batch to batch difference even.

As for pricing I have no clue what caused the jump but I had no way to combat that change sadly.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: waldorf120 on Fri, 06 September 2019, 00:04:58
Already have Tai-Hao alps mount WoB but SP sets have better compatibility.  I'd be in for one.  Also for the stab inserts I absolutely love those things, they work perfectly for me.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: manzel on Tue, 10 September 2019, 04:42:33
If the classic DCS legends are used, text-only mods look better in my opinion because of the non-existent spacing between text and icon. With the Cherry font, text+icon is fine (like on Alpine Winter).
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Yakbats on Sat, 21 September 2019, 00:27:52
This looks great! Count me in
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Rob27shred on Sat, 21 September 2019, 04:06:24
What!? They wanted $60 just to make a set of those adapter!? Wow, that is insane because the adapters ending up being pretty disappointing IME, super fragile & stems that were too big. It's almost impossible to get them out of a spacebar without breaking them, even if you put some lube on them. I think injection molded ones would be infinitely better even if they end up being a good bit more expensive than the original run of 3D printed ones IMHO. I know I'd be willing to pay more for something I know can be used more than just once. Also any ideal why the cost of the 3D printed sets shot up so high after you had the batch for the Nexus buy made? $7 per set to $60 is a pretty crazy price hike even if materials got significantly more expensive.

They were not the best because of printing variations I believe, all of the ones I had were fine but it may have been a batch to batch difference even.

As for pricing I have no clue what caused the jump but I had no way to combat that change sadly.

Yeah that makes sense, I know 3D printing has come a long way, but unless you're working with the best & most expensive printers results still can vary pretty wildly from batch to batch. Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 23 September 2019, 11:51:19
lots to consider here lately. I need to draft up a new email to send to SP with the stab insert questions and try to figure out what's best going forward. I'm currently leaning towards MX mounts as they're likely the only option from SP anyway - inserts will be a great help (working on these too lol). My future PCBs designed for Alps will have cherry stab mount holes in them, so compatibility there will help out a good bit. Sadly there's only so much I can control in the grand scheme of Alps lol
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: bthezebra on Mon, 23 September 2019, 12:12:00
lots to consider here lately. I need to draft up a new email to send to SP with the stab insert questions and try to figure out what's best going forward. I'm currently leaning towards MX mounts as they're likely the only option from SP anyway - inserts will be a great help (working on these too lol). My future PCBs designed for Alps will have cherry stab mount holes in them, so compatibility there will help out a good bit. Sadly there's only so much I can control in the grand scheme of Alps lol
Appreciate all your efforts and definitely will be getting a set!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Atlantic on Tue, 24 September 2019, 11:37:42
hell yeah
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: PancakeMSTR on Tue, 24 September 2019, 16:31:49
Yes probably.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: SenhorHoshino on Wed, 25 September 2019, 08:05:37
Definitely interested. Please don't run on Drop though, harder for us EU folk to join in...
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Aevyn on Fri, 27 September 2019, 12:52:45
I'd be down for this. I need keycaps for an alps alice  :-X
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Zephyraeon on Fri, 27 September 2019, 15:24:08
Interested if a way to solve the alps mount stabilisers is found, looking for AEK/lunar compatibility.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: L0NE ST4RR on Wed, 09 October 2019, 15:57:17
Wow, DCS Alps for Cherry Stabs. The only way to build XD60 with ALPS-Plate from KPrepublic. I'm 100% in... if there will be an option for an international kit.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: OfTheWild on Fri, 11 October 2019, 00:02:43
I'm hoping to cover a TGR Alice layout with this one... definitely in either way though.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: FZ on Sun, 13 October 2019, 11:10:00
Definitely in. There haven't been nearly enough of these efforts to match the interest that is out there for them. I appreciate this.

I hope in someone's future efforts an Alps rendition of the Modern Dolch style or a modern version of the old Apple IIc extended keycaps eventually comes to fruition.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: liangalv on Sun, 13 October 2019, 15:22:46
Hiney, were you able to find out if SP had alps mount spacebars?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Ljit0 on Sun, 13 October 2019, 18:35:29
I'd definitely be in for a set. There's a real lack of good alps keycaps out there, especially ones that are compatible with modern layouts.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: andj00 on Fri, 08 November 2019, 10:52:51
PLEASE!!!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Fri, 08 November 2019, 11:11:56
PLEASE!!!!!!

hoping to get this going Q1
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: kakan on Fri, 08 November 2019, 15:44:20
Always nice to see quality stuff from you :)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: StormyMonday on Sun, 10 November 2019, 18:44:53
PLEASE!!!!!!

hoping to get this going Q1

Any chance for some ortholinear love?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: nasp on Sun, 10 November 2019, 20:59:33
PLEASE!!!!!!

hoping to get this going Q1

Any chance for some ortholinear love?
.
Yes! There's a 40's kit that will cover ortho
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Chesebro on Sun, 10 November 2019, 21:52:25
I second the AEK bottom row. We need more selection in that layout!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: StormyMonday on Sun, 10 November 2019, 23:42:06
PLEASE!!!!!!

hoping to get this going Q1

Any chance for some ortholinear love?
.
Yes! There's a 40's kit that will cover ortho

Oh, I see it on the OP, now. For some reason the base pic and the spacebar/40 pic won't load for me. I can only see the pic of the TKL.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 11 November 2019, 04:22:22
PLEASE!!!!!!

hoping to get this going Q1

Really need this to support my True-HHKB Alps build hasn't completed yet after 3+ years.
Hope I save up enough for Q1 2020 or finally the job-market gives my 10+ years non-commercial academic background some credit...
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: tvpeople on Mon, 18 November 2019, 10:54:49
Any chance we can go with more lighter color scheme like BoW?

BoW may go better with both dark & light color cases.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 18 November 2019, 11:27:03
Any chance we can go with more lighter color scheme like BoW?

BoW may go better with both dark & light color cases.

ya i wanna do that one too
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: tex_live_utility on Mon, 18 November 2019, 12:37:45
No love for classic beige? Not really a fan of how WoB or BoW look in DCS.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 18 November 2019, 13:13:42
No love for classic beige? Not really a fan of how WoB or BoW look in DCS.

actually ya i meant i'd do classic beige, not BoW. i don't care for BoW either
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: StormyMonday on Fri, 22 November 2019, 13:58:06
A couple of folks have already requested "Raise" and "Lower" keys for the 40% kit. I'd like to second that motion!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Rayndalf on Fri, 22 November 2019, 17:11:19
Hope this is the classic 'Wyse' DCS font, the 'almost Cherry' font is too thick on the sets I've seen.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: tex_live_utility on Fri, 22 November 2019, 17:39:28
Hope this is the classic 'Wyse' DCS font, the 'almost Cherry' font is too thick on the sets I've seen.

As cool as that would be, I'd be surprised if SP has those legends available.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Rayndalf on Fri, 22 November 2019, 19:12:12
Hope this is the classic 'Wyse' DCS font, the 'almost Cherry' font is too thick on the sets I've seen.

As cool as that would be, I'd be surprised if SP has those legends available.
The most recent grab bag I've gotten from them has a healthy selection of keys with the OG font, but most of them are white on black or black on beige for commercial cash registers and the like.

The DCS Wyse adapter kits that are also in IC right make use of those legends as well, so (despite the new 'cherry' legends being "better") they seem to keep the old ones around (so many custom legends for different languages and systems that commercial customers don't want to pay to remake I guess?).

In fact the DCS Yuri renders used it too I think (text instead of icon + text, but the font is the OG one). So somehow the older font has text only mods now too?  :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: dr_derivative on Sat, 23 November 2019, 06:40:26
Hope this is the classic 'Wyse' DCS font, the 'almost Cherry' font is too thick on the sets I've seen.

As cool as that would be, I'd be surprised if SP has those legends available.
The most recent grab bag I've gotten from them has a healthy selection of keys with the OG font, but most of them are white on black or black on beige for commercial cash registers and the like.

The DCS Wyse adapter kits that are also in IC right make use of those legends as well, so (despite the new 'cherry' legends being "better") they seem to keep the old ones around (so many custom legends for different languages and systems that commercial customers don't want to pay to remake I guess?).

In fact the DCS Yuri renders used it too I think (text instead of icon + text, but the font is the OG one). So somehow the older font has text only mods now too?  8)


The OG DCS legends are just Gorton Modified moved to the top left corner of the keys, and AFAIK it's the default font SP will use on DCS. The Cherry replica legends were paid for by the community to make OG Cherry style sets before GMK started producing keycaps.

Text mods do exist (DCS Percent used them not too long ago, but older sets like DCS Hyperfuse used them too), as do icon only mods (DCS Icon SoWaRe, OTD Red Alert)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: tex_live_utility on Sat, 23 November 2019, 08:48:02
Hope this is the classic 'Wyse' DCS font, the 'almost Cherry' font is too thick on the sets I've seen.

As cool as that would be, I'd be surprised if SP has those legends available.
The most recent grab bag I've gotten from them has a healthy selection of keys with the OG font, but most of them are white on black or black on beige for commercial cash registers and the like.

The DCS Wyse adapter kits that are also in IC right make use of those legends as well, so (despite the new 'cherry' legends being "better") they seem to keep the old ones around (so many custom legends for different languages and systems that commercial customers don't want to pay to remake I guess?).

In fact the DCS Yuri renders used it too I think (text instead of icon + text, but the font is the OG one). So somehow the older font has text only mods now too?  8)


The OG DCS legends are just Gorton Modified moved to the top left corner of the keys, and AFAIK it's the default font SP will use on DCS. The Cherry replica legends were paid for by the community to make OG Cherry style sets before GMK started producing keycaps.

Text mods do exist (DCS Percent used them not too long ago, but older sets like DCS Hyperfuse used them too), as do icon only mods (DCS Icon SoWaRe, OTD Red Alert)

Yup I'm also dead wrong  ;D. DCS Percent has the original legends and it's sitting right in front of me. Also that's my Wyse IC so it's not like I didn't know this already  :confused:
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Jacob4341 on Wed, 25 December 2019, 21:04:16
hhkb and aek bottom row in the base kit should be a must.  I'm in for this, whatever colorway is decided on.  Personally I'd prefer BOW > WOB > Beige.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: grav3serker on Thu, 26 December 2019, 00:30:17
100% in on all the Alps sets. MX stabs are perfectly fine with me  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: helborne on Thu, 26 December 2019, 21:11:01
In!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Hapi on Thu, 09 January 2020, 16:31:02
yes pls. and R3 1.75 function keycap would be nice :)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: LoneRegiment on Fri, 10 January 2020, 05:51:35
yes pls. and R3 1.75 function keycap would be nice :)
I second this, also very excited
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: segami on Sun, 19 January 2020, 05:18:57
Definitely in for this and 9009.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Hapi on Sun, 19 January 2020, 05:34:32
What about PBT as ALPS throwback


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Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: equalunique on Wed, 22 January 2020, 13:11:19
Maybe it's time SP offered R4C for small non-standard space keys. If it were done for this Alps set first, it could boost the popularity of this IC, future SP Alps ICs, and perhaps Alps as a whole.

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Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Jacob4341 on Thu, 20 February 2020, 14:49:48
Any update on when this will be ran?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 20 February 2020, 15:26:25
Any update on when this will be ran?

havent had much of a chance to work on kits. hopefully can soon ish and get that info over to SP for some quotations!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Lil on Sat, 22 February 2020, 05:34:08
Interested

Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: keyboardcircle on Sun, 23 February 2020, 14:29:31
BoW please.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: nasp on Sun, 23 February 2020, 20:51:15
BoW please.

Ditto. :pray:
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: mode on Mon, 24 February 2020, 02:47:29
1u blanks for each row would be very much appreciated from this uk mac layout user.

R4 Ď~ and R3 \| I would love, but Iíll accept blanks for those keys.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Merfolk on Tue, 25 February 2020, 02:07:15
Could you include a R3 Cap Lock with a 1.50/1.75 primary/secondary width and the stem centered on 1.5 that will work with the Dell AT101?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 25 February 2020, 08:21:29
wtb non alps version after this runs
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: jrs on Tue, 25 February 2020, 08:47:35
wtb non alps version after this runs
https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dcs-black-white-keysets/
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: DALExSNAIL on Tue, 25 February 2020, 09:38:13
wtb non alps version after this runs
https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dcs-black-white-keysets/

Mods are poop and doesn't have all the addon kits from butt man hiney
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: littleairbison on Wed, 26 February 2020, 15:21:51
any update on this awesome and much-needed set for Alps lovers? xD
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: celta on Thu, 05 March 2020, 23:20:38
Down for this set and seconding the request for a BoW alps set.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Vox_Reticuli on Mon, 16 March 2020, 18:33:32
any updates? My wallet is ready!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 16 March 2020, 22:20:11
Hi update city

Legends will be the DCS Cherry style, as seen on DCS Midnight: https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dcs-midnight-keyset/

Kits redone. couple of questions, which I will leave for after:

(https://i.imgur.com/FslslMl.png)

Questions:

-Break numpad out? due to SP's lower MOQs per kit it would likely be made regardless.
-Full on international kit?
-ISO UK good enough?
-Any keys in the 40s/small kit needed?


Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: helborne on Mon, 16 March 2020, 22:36:14
Would you be open to doing blanks too? I don't know if that would help drive down the per key cost though.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: LightningXI on Mon, 16 March 2020, 22:40:25
I wouldn't split the numpad, because it'd be nice to use this set, maybe to replace the keysets on nice Alps vintage boards out there =)

Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 16 March 2020, 23:51:54
Would you be open to doing blanks too? I don't know if that would help drive down the per key cost though.

nahh if i'm gonna do it may as well do it full-assed
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Zephyraeon on Tue, 17 March 2020, 00:31:54
Liking the kits as they are, only thing I'd change would be adding a second B to spacebars, but I'm not sure how many people are really planning on doing ALPS alice layouts so understand if that's left out. I'll be buying everything except ISO regardless.

Which spacebars in the spacebar kit are convex?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 17 March 2020, 01:06:46
Liking the kits as they are, only thing I'd change would be adding a second B to spacebars, but I'm not sure how many people are really planning on doing ALPS alice layouts so understand if that's left out. I'll be buying everything except ISO regardless.

Which spacebars in the spacebar kit are convex?

second B is on the list!

I believe only keys 4.5u and up are convex. the rest will be concave blanks. https://www.solutionsinplastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/DCSFamily.pdf
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: tex_live_utility on Tue, 17 March 2020, 01:17:38
Can probably strip the 40s kit down somewhat, considering that all those 1u keys are "cosmetic" for ortho users, rather than functionally necessary like the > 1u keys. Then again this is SP so maybe you can just split it into a 40s kit and an ortho kit depending on pricing and MOQs. Or just leave it all in because maybe ortho people will be excited to use this on their Alps Planck or something.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: mode on Tue, 17 March 2020, 01:30:05
I would really appreciate a blank kit, a couple for each row to fill in for unusual layouts. A small kit would let you buy multiple if you want more blanks, just as long as you get each row.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: vewy_nice on Tue, 17 March 2020, 10:14:40
I have some doubleshot JP NEXT keycaps that have dumb-sized mods... I'd love to be able to use mods from this to get standard usability with the awesome alphas!

EDIT:
To answer some of your questions:
I don't need a numpad, and would always appreciate a cheaper base kit.

Indifferent indifferent bla bla

Having some alps 40's keys would be super awesome to cover some of those weird boards that you aren't sure why they have alps support because no standard keysets fit them.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: monteyalps on Tue, 17 March 2020, 11:20:04
Really loving the kit and would be happy if it rolled out the way it is.  :cool:

Can't wait to see how this looks on my Alps board!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 17 March 2020, 11:46:35
I would really appreciate a blank kit, a couple for each row to fill in for unusual layouts. A small kit would let you buy multiple if you want more blanks, just as long as you get each row.

true, i'm not sure what offerings SP has for alps-mount blanks as far as their in-stock options go but I can ask Melissa.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: nasp on Tue, 17 March 2020, 14:31:34
Can probably strip the 40s kit down somewhat, considering that all those 1u keys are "cosmetic" for ortho users, rather than functionally necessary like the > 1u keys. Then again this is SP so maybe you can just split it into a 40s kit and an ortho kit depending on pricing and MOQs. Or just leave it all in because maybe ortho people will be excited to use this on their Alps Planck or something.

I don't quite understand what your are saying, but the kit is already fairly minimal. As for the "cosmetic" keys, why would I put incorrect legends on my ortho board if I'm spending $100 plus on keycaps? Especially since this is a neutral color. If I didn't care for correct legends I might as well buy any Alps set and just use that. It likely will be a lot cheaper than $100 too.

Please don't take any keys out of the 40s kit.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Vox_Reticuli on Tue, 17 March 2020, 14:33:08
I'd like to see a 1.75 Backspace and a 1.5 Enter on the 40s kit for V4n4g0n support.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: ttom on Tue, 17 March 2020, 19:29:55
R2 1.5u backspace in 40s doesnít seem necessary seeing as to how itís in base already

Edit: if youíre adding a second B to spacebars you should probably add a 2u spacebar there too since quite a lot of Alice layouts use that
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 17 March 2020, 20:12:55
R2 1.5u backspace in 40s doesnít seem necessary seeing as to how itís in base already

Edit: if youíre adding a second B to spacebars you should probably add a 2u spacebar there too since quite a lot of Alice layouts use that

oh yea tru will adjust the backspace. reminded me that I updated the legends on the 40s kit and not the base kit to have two-line Back Space. thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: d.caminero on Wed, 18 March 2020, 14:55:20
looking forward to this GB, I need those standard mods to use fancy JP keycaps :)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Jacob4341 on Wed, 18 March 2020, 16:53:15
Hyped for this. Going to use this as an excuse to rebuild my SKCM brown alps board... (I want to change layout  ;) )
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: equalunique on Wed, 18 March 2020, 17:06:34
I'd like that there are spacebar and 40s kits, but honestly, regular R4 small space keys are kinda painful to use compared to R4C or even DSA. I know the molds don't exist at SP. It would be amazing if they did tho - I'd be way more of a DCS fan.

Speaking of special row profiles, did you consider DCS R0/R5? SP has molds for those, and NN was what they were last offered in AFAIK.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Skelig on Thu, 02 April 2020, 16:00:24
This GB looks amazing. I need ISO Alps in my life.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: BlueeQ on Sat, 11 April 2020, 06:03:11
Very much excited for this, really wanting some more variation in terms of alps caps and I wish more were available :)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Th3rav4ger on Sat, 11 April 2020, 11:39:34
Im very down for this, the struggle with Alps isn't finding the switch it's finding good keycaps. :'(
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Jacob4341 on Mon, 13 April 2020, 18:33:54
Im very down for this, the struggle with Alps isn't finding the switch it's finding good keycaps. :'(

This is so true! I plan on using this set to fix compatibility issues with my vintage sets like IBM 5140, NEC 8801, or Cannon Hipros.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: RominRonin on Wed, 15 April 2020, 14:44:44
Hey, since this is by SP, Iíll try my luck and ask: do you think thereís a chance of getting one-off keys produced with custom legends? Iíd kill for 2x 1.5 u shift keys on row 4 (bottom row) profile.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: tpec on Sat, 18 April 2020, 23:25:02


Questions:

-Break numpad out? due to SP's lower MOQs per kit it would likely be made regardless.
-Full on international kit?
-ISO UK good enough?
-Any keys in the 40s/small kit needed?

I'd be down for all three kits if there was Minivan support. As far as I can tell all that's needed is R2 1.75 backspace and R3 1.5 enter in the 40s kit.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: static_lifetime on Wed, 06 May 2020, 02:37:46
I'm 200% in. (with 2 sets :D)

400% in with beige if that ever drops
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Little4Real on Sun, 17 May 2020, 21:29:57
Any news on these?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Sun, 17 May 2020, 21:48:55
need to email SP but hopefully i can soon
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: PigeonsLikeBread on Tue, 19 May 2020, 16:25:18
Very interested
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Skelig on Sat, 06 June 2020, 15:17:28
Quick question on this, would the ISO enter stem be oriented vertically or horizontally? That's the one catch I struggle with when sourcing ISO Alps keycaps, since mine is mounted vertically.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Sat, 06 June 2020, 21:51:31
emailed SP the other day re: the mounts, stabs etc. to see what's available. it would be idea to offer a set of alps and mx mount mods separately to accommodate everyone.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Lormania on Sun, 07 June 2020, 12:41:56
I think about this set every now and then and get excited. I am a fan of the idea of the mx mods to make it easier for everyone. The Alps Throwback Keycap set had these (alps middle stem and mx outer stem) so you don't have to find alps stabilizers. Plates though are tough to come by that are made for alps but still keep the same cutouts for the mx stabilizers.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: mode on Sun, 07 June 2020, 14:00:57
I think about this set every now and then and get excited. I am a fan of the idea of the mx mods to make it easier for everyone. The Alps Throwback Keycap set had these (alps middle stem and mx outer stem) so you don't have to find alps stabilizers. Plates though are tough to come by that are made for alps but still keep the same cutouts for the mx stabilizers.

Design your own! I posted some in the DCS Yuri thread. Costs about Ä60 to get them made by laserboost.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: NorrittMTG on Mon, 08 June 2020, 11:26:42
Really interesting.

I've been working on a DCS PBT Dyesubbed set from SP myself. Drop me a message if you're up for chatting.
Would love to see another Alps set hit the market but dont want to interfere with another GB as we all know how hard Alps caps GBs can be.

J
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 11 June 2020, 10:54:05
hey everyone

so I talked to SP. here are the updates:

- they only have MX stabilizer stem, Alps switch stem caps. so there won't be any option for Alps/Costar stab inserts.
- pricing seems good, a base kit would be about ~$120 USD.
- regarding legends, I have to pretty much hand-pick these so it will go one of two ways: either the Cherry style like DCS Midnight (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dcs-midnight-keyset/) or the Wyse style like their "black & white" set (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dcs-black-white-keysets/). Either one would be cool IMO, sort of leaning towards the Cherry style but that's just me.

Latest kits:

(https://i.imgur.com/8Ctf9oq.png)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: _rubik on Thu, 11 June 2020, 10:59:47
Thanks for the update, hiney

- regarding legends, I have to pretty much hand-pick these so it will go one of two ways: either the Cherry style like DCS Midnight (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dcs-midnight-keyset/) or the Wyse style like their "black & white" set (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dcs-black-white-keysets/). Either one would be cool IMO, sort of leaning towards the Cherry style but that's just me.

x2. My inner back-seat designer is leaning cherry as well.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: neon_tom on Thu, 11 June 2020, 12:33:14
hey everyone

so I talked to SP. here are the updates:

- they only have MX stabilizer stem, Alps switch stem caps. so there won't be any option for Alps/Costar stab inserts.
- pricing seems good, a base kit would be about ~$120 USD.
- regarding legends, I have to pretty much hand-pick these so it will go one of two ways: either the Cherry style like DCS Midnight (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dcs-midnight-keyset/) or the Wyse style like their "black & white" set (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dcs-black-white-keysets/). Either one would be cool IMO, sort of leaning towards the Cherry style but that's just me.

Latest kits:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/8Ctf9oq.png)

+1 on cherry style but, frankly, Iíd jump on either one
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Skelig on Thu, 11 June 2020, 12:38:42
- regarding legends, I have to pretty much hand-pick these so it will go one of two ways: either the Cherry style like DCS Midnight (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dcs-midnight-keyset/) or the Wyse style like their "black & white" set (https://pimpmykeyboard.com/dcs-black-white-keysets/). Either one would be cool IMO, sort of leaning towards the Cherry style but that's just me.

Also +1 for Cherry style.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: mode on Thu, 11 June 2020, 12:41:26
I'm fine with either legend, mild pref for cherry as Yuri ran with WYSE. Would be nice to try both.

Still pining for some more blanks though, two of each row!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Zephyraeon on Thu, 11 June 2020, 16:39:36
I prefer Cherry too, I like the font being a bit easier to read, and also the Wyse legends have 'Back Space' not 'Backspace'.

Can you make sure that these caps use the 1Z tooling for the stems? There was some info about it on the DCS Yuri GB post, but this post shows the difference: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94727.msg2592093#msg2592093
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Thu, 11 June 2020, 18:30:25
I prefer Cherry too, I like the font being a bit easier to read, and also the Wyse legends have 'Back Space' not 'Backspace'.

Can you make sure that these caps use the 1Z tooling for the stems? There was some info about it on the DCS Yuri GB post, but this post shows the difference: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94727.msg2592093#msg2592093

Yup I can verify 1Z soon!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Fri, 12 June 2020, 03:26:00
I prefer Cherry too, I like the font being a bit easier to read, and also the Wyse legends have 'Back Space' not 'Backspace'.

Can you make sure that these caps use the 1Z tooling for the stems? There was some info about it on the DCS Yuri GB post, but this post shows the difference: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=94727.msg2592093#msg2592093

1Z it is. SP also prefers them.

I was also told to mention that the stab stems can be somewhat fragile/brittle, so it may not be recommended to remove/install the keycaps often. I'll include this as a disclaimer during the buy, etc.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: jH0Ni on Fri, 12 June 2020, 08:25:49
I'm in.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: waldorf120 on Fri, 12 June 2020, 18:49:57
I was also told to mention that the stab stems can be somewhat fragile/brittle, so it may not be recommended to remove/install the keycaps often.

I love SP.  Only company that can get away with this.  "Yeah we know our product is crap but we're the only game in town".  I'm in for 2 of everything.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: krautcat on Fri, 12 June 2020, 21:38:07
I can be late, but don't you mind to add second R3 1.5U key? Like Meta, Control or Tab. It's useful for some (maybe even one) rare 40% boards with non-usual staggering.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: RominRonin on Fri, 12 June 2020, 21:39:42
I can be late, but don;t you mind to add second R3 1.5U key? Like Meta, Cotnrol or Tab. It's useful for some (maybe even one) rare 40% boards with non-usual staggering.
I second this ;)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Jacob4341 on Sat, 13 June 2020, 17:01:35
+1 for Cherry style legends. I would even be interested in icon mods.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: segami on Sun, 14 June 2020, 07:47:11
+1 for Cherry style legends. I would even be interested in icon mods.

Icon mods would be sick but I'd be down for 2 sets cherry style if that's the final choice.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: mode on Sun, 14 June 2020, 08:31:25
Icon mods would be the best.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Little4Real on Tue, 16 June 2020, 07:05:54
Cherry-style with icon mods would be amazing, but I know SP doesn't have them  :-[

It's okay, but Cherry-style PLEASE
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: danieltwc on Mon, 13 July 2020, 19:08:24
Late to the game here, but I'm in for a set. I've resigned myself to needing to custom order a plate for my build, and would kind of prefer Cherry-style stabilizers anyway.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Little4Real on Sun, 16 August 2020, 01:35:27
Any updates??
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Sun, 16 August 2020, 16:36:39
Any updates??

yeah i've been distracted by other stuff and lazy lol

look for this in the next month
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: nasp on Mon, 17 August 2020, 11:48:48
Any updates??

yeah i've been distracted by other stuff and lazy lol

look for this in the next month


Next month?! Yes!!  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Little4Real on Tue, 18 August 2020, 02:20:55


yeah i've been distracted by other stuff and lazy lol

look for this in the next month

Welp, I'm in for two sets.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: NorrittMTG on Thu, 20 August 2020, 14:19:56
is that a 7u bar?
Has something changed with Signature Plastics over the past few years as so far i havent seen a 7U alps mount bar with MX stabs in DCS that isnt 100% ****ed.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 20 August 2020, 16:16:34
is that a 7u bar?
Has something changed with Signature Plastics over the past few years as so far i havent seen a 7U alps mount bar with MX stabs in DCS that isnt 100% ****ed.

Iím using a 7u DCS alps Yuri space bar with mx stabilizer mounts.  All good on mine. 
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Little4Real on Thu, 20 August 2020, 16:52:10
is that a 7u bar?
Has something changed with Signature Plastics over the past few years as so far i havent seen a 7U alps mount bar with MX stabs in DCS that isnt 100% ****ed.

I have DCS Alps Throwback and Yuri, and both of those 7U spacebars work flawlessly. I had Alpine Winter and the 7U space was junk. The only way I could use it is by making a custom plate and using a Costar stabilizer on the spacebar.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: pixelpusher on Thu, 20 August 2020, 18:47:56
Well the PBT space bars in my alps throwback set are crap, but the ABS ones (that didnít match color) worked. Donít get me started on that jank set
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Cods on Sun, 30 August 2020, 16:59:36
Iím in. Maybe 2x.
As a latecomer to the Alps thing, I jumped on Alps Yuri just to get an Alps set. TBH, I donít particularly like the Yuri colours (I may sell my 2x sets as soon as I have something else in hand), but Alps Yuriís better than nothing.
Alps WoB looks great!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: nicolaidavies on Mon, 31 August 2020, 05:26:13
I'm definitely in for Base and Spacebar kit.

Is there going to be a European vendor?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: i luv chuletas on Mon, 31 August 2020, 09:41:27
Oh this is awesome, just got alps myself. Will def be picking up multiple base kits!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: zoo on Mon, 31 August 2020, 10:47:31
Eagerly awaiting the beige color set if based on 9009
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Jacob4341 on Wed, 16 September 2020, 17:16:30
GB when?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Onnimar on Sat, 21 November 2020, 11:00:01
This needs to happen! I'm down for 2 sets. Could we also get an F13 please.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: nicolaidavies on Tue, 08 December 2020, 04:31:03
Is there any update to this? I'm planning an Alps build and really hope to use this set :)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Rob27shred on Tue, 08 December 2020, 04:47:52
Any updates??

yeah i've been distracted by other stuff and lazy lol

look for this in the next month

From one yinzer to another, please make this set happen!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: eyeon on Wed, 09 December 2020, 01:52:52
Looks great, hoping this actually happens since I am currently in the market for quality alps mount keycaps.

I am hoping that we could get 1.5u R4 Super keys added though.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: eltrotro on Tue, 29 December 2020, 03:41:04
I'm in if this ever goes live!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Alectardy98 on Tue, 29 December 2020, 23:08:13
me too!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: ephemeral25 on Wed, 30 December 2020, 05:26:46
Please include ISO int in the base kit.

Also hope it's still a thing.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Wed, 30 December 2020, 10:31:10
yeah hey yall, since we are planning on buying a house/moving around when this could ship I'm gonna wait to launch until we have the new place locked down and I know for sure where I'll be fulfilling from.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Rob27shred on Wed, 30 December 2020, 11:34:28
yeah hey yall, since we are planning on buying a house/moving around when this could ship I'm gonna wait to launch until we have the new place locked down and I know for sure where I'll be fulfilling from.

Hey, glad to hear this is still in the works! GL with the move man!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: siggie0815 on Sat, 02 January 2021, 08:29:24
Hey, I'll be a late joiner as well (glad that you're busy with other stuff)  ;)

I'll be definitely in for a Base and ISO Kit, given there is shipping to Europe.

Thanks for your effort, I'm looking forward this.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 04 January 2021, 00:24:10
Hey, I'll be a late joiner as well (glad that you're busy with other stuff)  ;)

I'll be definitely in for a Base and ISO Kit, given there is shipping to Europe.

Thanks for your effort, I'm looking forward this.

I will def work with a European proxy for this!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: i luv chuletas on Mon, 04 January 2021, 00:41:04
Awesome to hear this is still in the works!

gratz on the move man
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: nicolaidavies on Mon, 04 January 2021, 08:20:45
Really glad to hear that this is still alive.

Is there any possibility for an extra B in the spacebars kit? Or even a blank 1u?

I plan on building an Acrylic Alice, so It would be nice to have the right legends.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Rob27shred on Mon, 04 January 2021, 08:24:42
Really glad to hear that this is still alive.

Is there any possibility for an extra B in the spacebars kit? Or even a blank 1u?

I plan on building an Acrylic Alice, so It would be nice to have the right legends.

Where you getting an ALPS compatible Alice style PCB? I'd love to grab one if it is something readily available!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: nicolaidavies on Mon, 04 January 2021, 08:45:46
Really glad to hear that this is still alive.

Is there any possibility for an extra B in the spacebars kit? Or even a blank 1u?

I plan on building an Acrylic Alice, so It would be nice to have the right legends.

Where you getting an ALPS compatible Alice style PCB? I'd love to grab one if it is something readily available!

I got an extra PCB from the Tengu GB (https://store.projectkeyboard.com/collections/tengu/products/tengu-pcb-extra). And I got an Alps plate file with support for MX stabs based of the Yuktsi files. Then I got an old Apple keyboard with Salmon alps.

So these keycaps are the missing piece.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: nicolaidavies on Mon, 04 January 2021, 08:46:40
Really glad to hear that this is still alive.

Is there any possibility for an extra B in the spacebars kit? Or even a blank 1u?

I plan on building an Acrylic Alice, so It would be nice to have the right legends.

Where you getting an ALPS compatible Alice style PCB? I'd love to grab one if it is something readily available!

I got an extra PCB from the Tengu GB (https://store.projectkeyboard.com/collections/tengu/products/tengu-pcb-extra). And I got an Alps plate file with support for MX stabs based of the Yuktsi files. Then I got an old Apple keyboard with Salmon alps.

So these keycaps are the missing piece.

You can pre order one here: https://store.projectkeyboard.com/collections/alice-pcbs/products/preorder-alice-pcb-rev2-black
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Rob27shred on Mon, 04 January 2021, 08:54:15
Really glad to hear that this is still alive.

Is there any possibility for an extra B in the spacebars kit? Or even a blank 1u?

I plan on building an Acrylic Alice, so It would be nice to have the right legends.

Where you getting an ALPS compatible Alice style PCB? I'd love to grab one if it is something readily available!

I got an extra PCB from the Tengu GB (https://store.projectkeyboard.com/collections/tengu/products/tengu-pcb-extra). And I got an Alps plate file with support for MX stabs based of the Yuktsi files. Then I got an old Apple keyboard with Salmon alps.

So these keycaps are the missing piece.

You can pre order one here: https://store.projectkeyboard.com/collections/alice-pcbs/products/preorder-alice-pcb-rev2-black

Thanks for the response & links, I didn't know the PKB Alice PCB had ALPS support! Might have to give this project a go myself.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: treeleaf64 on Mon, 04 January 2021, 10:00:17
Thank you Hiney, this is something I have always wanted to do/buy so it is awesome that you have done all the work
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: parablol on Mon, 04 January 2021, 18:25:00
I really wish the small spacebars were convex
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Tue, 05 January 2021, 08:11:51
I really wish the small spacebars were convex

same, sadly SP doesn't have those molds
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: nicolaidavies on Tue, 05 January 2021, 14:36:34
I really wish the small spacebars were convex

same, sadly SP doesn't have those molds

What about double B molds? You know for Alice people
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: IO Sam on Sun, 31 January 2021, 12:53:55
Really glad to hear that this is still alive.

Is there any possibility for an extra B in the spacebars kit? Or even a blank 1u?

I plan on building an Acrylic Alice, so It would be nice to have the right legends.

Where you getting an ALPS compatible Alice style PCB? I'd love to grab one if it is something readily available!

I got an extra PCB from the Tengu GB (https://store.projectkeyboard.com/collections/tengu/products/tengu-pcb-extra). And I got an Alps plate file with support for MX stabs based of the Yuktsi files. Then I got an old Apple keyboard with Salmon alps.

So these keycaps are the missing piece.
I'm in the exact same situation you're in. Also, would you mind sharing the alps compatible Alice plate file you mentioned? That was the main other issue I was struggling with. Tks!

Hey Nicolaidavies, thank you for sending it to me over Reddit!!! Really appreciated man!
Do you mind if I share that file with the rest of the community here? I'm sure there will be other people in the same situation at some point.

Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: monteyalps on Sun, 21 February 2021, 21:32:29
Can't wait for this to drop!  :p
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: tpec on Thu, 18 March 2021, 16:33:31
I just realised that a 1.75u R4 'Caps Lock' key is missing in the 40s kit, if you're looking to complete the Minivan support. There's already all the other Minivan specific keys (e.g., 1.75u R2 'Backspace'), so it'd be nice to have. Worst case I suppose the R3 Caps Lock key from the base kit could be used, which isn't too bad.

Excited for this to happen though! I recently finished putting together a Blue Alps Minivan in preparation :)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: igooo33333 on Sat, 27 March 2021, 13:12:18
Is there any update on this?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Rob27shred on Sat, 27 March 2021, 13:19:55
Is there any update on this?

AFAIK it's kinda on hold for right now, but Hiney does intend on running it when he can. So it's not a dead project.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: igooo33333 on Sat, 27 March 2021, 16:04:29
Is there any update on this?

AFAIK it's kinda on hold for right now, but Hiney does intend on running it when he can. So it's not a dead project.

Thanks that's good to hear. I'm planning a Time 80 RE build using yellow alps and would love to eventually use this set rather than the XDA pbt ones from kprepublic.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: IO Sam on Sun, 18 April 2021, 15:51:20
Really glad to hear that this is still alive.

Is there any possibility for an extra B in the spacebars kit? Or even a blank 1u?

I plan on building an Acrylic Alice, so It would be nice to have the right legends.

Where you getting an ALPS compatible Alice style PCB? I'd love to grab one if it is something readily available!

I got an extra PCB from the Tengu GB (https://store.projectkeyboard.com/collections/tengu/products/tengu-pcb-extra). And I got an Alps plate file with support for MX stabs based of the Yuktsi files. Then I got an old Apple keyboard with Salmon alps.

So these keycaps are the missing piece.
I'm in the exact same situation you're in. Also, would you mind sharing the alps compatible Alice plate file you mentioned? That was the main other issue I was struggling with. Tks!

Hey Nicolaidavies, thank you for sending it to me over Reddit!!! Really appreciated man!
Do you mind if I share that file with the rest of the community here? I'm sure there will be other people in the same situation at some point.

Happy to report that the original Alps Alice plate designer (u/Wolframme on Reddit) authorized me to share the file publicly (and thanks to Nicolaidavies for assisting me on this matter!). So, for anyone in need of an Alps compatible plate for a stacked acrylic Alice board, here is his link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1eWbhpDfI1_Yn8qojrovlFp846NTVviH5?usp=sharing

I am currently working on a project to build myself an Alice board with Alps SKCM switches (which I will eventually document on my YouTube channel) and will likely make some modification to the original design. But, for now, I can confirm that I know of at least one person who successfully used this design on a stacked acrylic Alice board as it is.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: F13 on Wed, 28 April 2021, 11:24:54
Fantastic that there will be multiple spacebar support.

MX stems for stabs is fine but it pretty much means these caps will be for Alps versions of modern boards...which is very much needed.

I think a large base kit makes sense. Alps lovers are definitely a subset of the keeb community so there might not be enough of us to support lots of kitting options.

Frankly, most people buying GMK end up with a bunch of caps they never use anyway (numpad...I'm looking at you), so I don't think it should shock anyone to have a DCS Alps set that includes keys that some might not need (e.g. ISO vs ANSI).
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 17 May 2021, 17:21:49
if anyone else wants to take this over, please let me know and we can work that out. I don't have the bandwidth to do it atm.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps
Post by: Onnimar on Wed, 19 May 2021, 08:04:54
I hope someone takes this over. Been waiting on a decent alps iso set for my alps build.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS Alps-mount WoB keycaps (taken over, new link in OP)
Post by: hineybush on Mon, 28 June 2021, 10:45:42
My friend PigeonsLB has taken this over, new IC here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113525.0