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Title: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Thu, 03 June 2021, 20:57:02
(https://i.imgur.com/mDLUU8N.jpg)

Iskar
"Never let a human do a machine's job"


Watch the Trailer Here!

For Updates:
Discord (Fastest Updates): https://discord.gg/2w5ukHV
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bitmap.studio/ (https://www.instagram.com/bitmap.studio/)



Features

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(https://i.imgur.com/4rRUSfi.jpg)

Bold
Iskar features a one-of-a-kind bold, mirror-polished rim. The modular nature of the rim allows for easy matching with keysets.



(https://i.imgur.com/f2OvkBR.jpg)

Customizable
Multiple weight, rim, weight and sound dampening options allow for hundreds of possible combinations.



(https://i.imgur.com/Qo3ckQV.jpg)

Accessible
NOTE: This render shows south facing switches. The real board will feature north facing switches for compatibility. The Iskar will feature a multi-layout hotswap PCB for easy installation and even more options. Further, Iskar is able to be programmable via (pun intended) the VIA software.



(https://i.imgur.com/gvPFmHc.jpg)

Comfortable
A gasket mount design allows for increased bounciness and also helps to create a more poppy sound. Flex cuts on the PCB and a neutral 7 degree typing angle allows for a bouncy and comfortable typing experience. Multiple plate options ensure a comfortable configuration to each user's preferences.


Interest Form: https://forms.gle/MNNp6Tei659DMoXn6 (https://forms.gle/MNNp6Tei659DMoXn6)


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Additional Renders

More
https://imgur.com/gallery/gujCITc (https://imgur.com/gallery/gujCITc)

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Iskar Specs:
Case Material: Aluminum
Plate Material: PC, Aluminum, +TBD
Typing Angle: 7 Degrees
PCB: QMK Compatible, Per-Switch RGB, Hotswap. Designed by DrewKeys
Colors: TBD
Price: TBD, around $500
Dampening: Foam Between PCB and Plate, Case Foam.
GB Cap: TBD
Timeline: R1 Prototype Finished. R2 in progress.
GB Location: Bitmap Studio storefront (bitmapstudio.xyz).
Details missing (internal renders, PCB photos)? This is likely because more prototyping is needed to come to a final conclusion and so I can release official renders. Questions? Join our Discord Server

I would like to extend a special thanks to Randyland members for providing countless amounts of help and ideas. Renders by the talented @Ramnairvisuals and trailer by the people over at 23rdC


Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Thu, 03 June 2021, 21:00:57
Prototype #1 Photos

(https://i.imgur.com/zMDWr8F.jpg)

https://imgur.com/a/zNbQSIo (https://imgur.com/a/zNbQSIo)

Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: iinko_mk on Thu, 03 June 2021, 21:01:02
pretty cool
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Ihso on Thu, 03 June 2021, 21:01:25
lets gooo
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Olaugh on Thu, 03 June 2021, 21:03:36
Lets ****ing go!!!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Riizmaa on Thu, 03 June 2021, 21:04:13
sheeesh can i get one
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Techdude594 on Thu, 03 June 2021, 21:04:37
Finally! This looks amazing POG ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: IMZO on Thu, 03 June 2021, 21:05:39
that video ad is next level... looking good!
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Zyros on Thu, 03 June 2021, 21:07:51
It's about time, the board looks stunning!
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Xanira on Thu, 03 June 2021, 21:08:21
Looks nice, good variety in colors as well :)
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: asciisii on Thu, 03 June 2021, 21:08:59
The side curve looks really nice. GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Hellenic94 on Thu, 03 June 2021, 21:09:39
Love this! Cop cop cop!
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Chippy on Thu, 03 June 2021, 21:12:03
Maybe I am missing it, but what is the mounting on this, gasket strips?
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Thu, 03 June 2021, 21:13:58
Maybe I am missing it, but what is the mounting on this, gasket strips?

More details will be released as I finalize the design internally with prototypes.
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: sup3r170va on Thu, 03 June 2021, 21:27:59
Hi. Whatís the front height?
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: eibbun on Thu, 03 June 2021, 21:29:14
oh im in! hoping for some new case colors since i already have 2 alpines
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: ligongduck on Thu, 03 June 2021, 22:05:41
Very simple yet elegant
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Shoobs on Thu, 03 June 2021, 22:09:44
yessir
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: UswordM on Thu, 03 June 2021, 22:25:50
The design of the keeb is great! Definitely on board for this
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: MIGHTY CHICKEN on Thu, 03 June 2021, 22:47:15
Def a segsy one
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: PhantomLeadr on Thu, 03 June 2021, 23:27:07
Sheeeeeeeeeeesh

Got an alpine. Absolutely going in for the sequel. Bitmap 4 ever
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Ranger_Trivette on Fri, 04 June 2021, 03:12:04
the modular frame is soooo goodloking  :eek:
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: VXQN on Fri, 04 June 2021, 03:45:14
Not my preferred style of keyboard (I tend to like simpler designs) but this looks extremely good and I want one.
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: milka158 on Fri, 04 June 2021, 04:27:32
Great work! Looking forward to this!
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: RoyalOak88 on Fri, 04 June 2021, 04:29:47
Not a big fan of 65% without cluster separation, but I must admit that this is a sexy keeb!
The fact that is so customizable and has ISO hotswap might push me in  :p
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: r00dy on Fri, 04 June 2021, 11:05:35
Love the weight design and interchangeable rims, looks stunning!
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: shendoo on Fri, 04 June 2021, 13:16:41
Looks really great !! Def picking one up!
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: SolidCactus on Fri, 04 June 2021, 15:28:18
Great looking board! Iím in
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Iksion on Fri, 04 June 2021, 16:08:35
Very nice :thumb: Intersted.
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: ai06L on Fri, 04 June 2021, 22:15:05
nice board! is it a top mount board tho?
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: kriscard on Fri, 04 June 2021, 23:21:32
Really nice!
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: hayasaka on Sat, 05 June 2021, 06:08:03
nice.
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: aleeex on Sat, 05 June 2021, 06:19:21
Wow I canít wait to see the [REDACTED] with [REDACTED] that goes into the [REDACTED] ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: aleeex on Sat, 05 June 2021, 06:22:23
Also that IC form got me dead
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Poesjuh on Sat, 05 June 2021, 06:23:22
North facing switches? $500 keyboard but canít put my gmk sets on it? That would be a shame.
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Sat, 05 June 2021, 10:41:53
North facing switches? $500 keyboard but canít put my gmk sets on it? That would be a shame.

This render is inaccurate. Switches are south facing.
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Sat, 05 June 2021, 10:42:35
nice board! is it a top mount board tho?
Gasket Mount.
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: blacksimon on Sun, 06 June 2021, 10:37:29
I have questions:


Can we see the PCB with flex cuts?
Can we see the mounting for more than 0.125 seconds on the video, perhaps in a picture?
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: xeon on Sun, 06 June 2021, 10:38:13
I have questions:


Can we see the PCB with flex cuts?
Can we see the mounting for more than 0.125 seconds on the video, perhaps in a picture?
How does this have internal dampening when you do not even have a prototype to determine the sound of the keyboard?

deez nuts?
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Blitzschnitzel on Sun, 06 June 2021, 10:38:52
North facing switches? $500 keyboard but canít put my gmk sets on it? That would be a shame.
Doesn't that just mean the LEDs are at the top? Why would that make it incompatible with your keycaps?
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: xeon on Sun, 06 June 2021, 10:41:44
North facing switches? $500 keyboard but canít put my gmk sets on it? That would be a shame.
Doesn't that just mean the LEDs are at the top? Why would that make it incompatible with your keycaps?

Because the top housings will collide with cherry profile keycaps
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Visionaire on Sun, 06 June 2021, 10:49:35
North facing switches? $500 keyboard but can’t put my gmk sets on it? That would be a shame.
Doesn't that just mean the LEDs are at the top? Why would that make it incompatible with your keycaps?

Because the top housings will collide with cherry profile keycaps

1. Most people don't use LEDs in their custom builds these days...
2. If you choose to use them, if you use the correct LEDs they can work just fine.

Here you can see my COD67 with north facing LEDs and very shiny GMK caps (ignore the dust pls).

(https://i.imgur.com/zj3yArr.jpg)

Works just find as you can see here:

Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: AKiwi92 on Sun, 06 June 2021, 12:23:38
Really love the clean lines on this, look forward to seeing the GB!
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Sun, 06 June 2021, 13:00:42
I have questions:


Can we see the PCB with flex cuts?
Can we see the mounting for more than 0.125 seconds on the video, perhaps in a picture?

1 - Yes - I have waited to post an image of the PCB with flex cuts until after I get a prototype in order to minimize confusions if any changes need to be made.

2 - As for mounting, the same idea. I will be updating the IC with full exploded view renders as well as pictures of each individual part after the second prototype to make sure that the design that is posted is finalized. The purpose of the IC at this point in time is to check the general interest for the external appearance and proposed features of the board.
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Sun, 06 June 2021, 13:01:28
North facing switches? $500 keyboard but canít put my gmk sets on it? That would be a shame.
Doesn't that just mean the LEDs are at the top? Why would that make it incompatible with your keycaps?

Because the top housings will collide with cherry profile keycaps

Thank you for your input! I really appreciate it.

1. Most people don't use LEDs in their custom builds these days...
2. If you choose to use them, if you use the correct LEDs they can work just fine.

Here you can see my COD67 with north facing LEDs and very shiny GMK caps (ignore the dust pls).

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/zj3yArr.jpg)


Works just find as you can see here:

Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Shirogane on Mon, 07 June 2021, 00:56:49
Excited for this board!! Alpine is the best board i have right now and would expect nothing less for the next Bitmap Studios Board!!! Sending love <3
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Ustinj on Mon, 07 June 2021, 01:06:41
For what it's worth, I also ran into issues on R2 Cherry keycaps (QWERTYUIOP) hitting the switch housing on downstroke when using north-facing LED switches. It would hit the switch causing an unpleasantly thin clack, even without LEDs installed.

here's a reproduction of what it is like - the cap hits the switch before the stem bottoms out:

https://imgur.com/a/k9xu8Me (turn sound on)
 
edit: i now see that the render was just incorrect, but still worth noting that north facing switches did cause some issues with my GMK sets (namely R2)
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Mon, 07 June 2021, 13:39:07
For what it's worth, I also ran into issues on R2 Cherry keycaps (QWERTYUIOP) hitting the switch housing on downstroke when using north-facing LED switches. It would hit the switch causing an unpleasantly thin clack, even without LEDs installed.

here's a reproduction of what it is like - the cap hits the switch before the stem bottoms out:

https://imgur.com/a/k9xu8Me (turn sound on)
 
edit: i now see that the render was just incorrect, but still worth noting that north facing switches did cause some issues with my GMK sets (namely R2)
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Thank you for your input regardless!
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: JasonL84 on Wed, 09 June 2021, 17:24:07
Definitely keeping an eye on this one.
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Sat, 12 June 2021, 11:47:53
PCB Rough Renders

(https://i.vgy.me/OCdHs6.png)
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Mon, 14 June 2021, 20:33:07
Maybe I am missing it, but what is the mounting on this, gasket strips?

Will be gasket mounted.
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: NightRye_ on Mon, 14 June 2021, 23:30:08
so Frusta Fundamental with brass weight?

Sent from my SM-M115F using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Tue, 15 June 2021, 01:08:56
so Frusta Fundamental with brass weight?

Sent from my SM-M115F using Tapatalk

During the design phase, I became aware of the Frusta Fundemental and knew that this question would come up. Iskar and Frusta Fundamental are not associated in any way and development on Iskar had already begun before the Frusta was announced (August 2020). I was simply waiting for a suitable time to post an IC.
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: sup3r170va on Tue, 15 June 2021, 01:52:06
so Frusta Fundamental with brass weight?

Sent from my SM-M115F using Tapatalk

During the design phase, I became aware of the Frusta Fundemental and knew that this question would come up. Iskar and Frusta Fundamental are not associated in any way and development on Iskar had already begun before the Frusta was announced (August 2020). I was simply waiting for a suitable time to post an IC.

what's the front height of the keyboard?
One concern I have with Frusta Fundamental is that the front height of 22mm is too high to type with comfort.
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Tue, 15 June 2021, 11:24:50
so Frusta Fundamental with brass weight?

Sent from my SM-M115F using Tapatalk

During the design phase, I became aware of the Frusta Fundemental and knew that this question would come up. Iskar and Frusta Fundamental are not associated in any way and development on Iskar had already begun before the Frusta was announced (August 2020). I was simply waiting for a suitable time to post an IC.

what's the front height of the keyboard?
One concern I have with Frusta Fundamental is that the front height of 22mm is too high to type with comfort.

The front height of Iskar is 20mm (subject to change), but around 20mm +- 3mm is pretty standard for keyboards in general.
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: sup3r170va on Tue, 15 June 2021, 11:58:05
so Frusta Fundamental with brass weight?

Sent from my SM-M115F using Tapatalk

During the design phase, I became aware of the Frusta Fundemental and knew that this question would come up. Iskar and Frusta Fundamental are not associated in any way and development on Iskar had already begun before the Frusta was announced (August 2020). I was simply waiting for a suitable time to post an IC.

what's the front height of the keyboard?
One concern I have with Frusta Fundamental is that the front height of 22mm is too high to type with comfort.

The front height of Iskar is 20mm (subject to change), but around 20mm +- 3mm is pretty standard for keyboards in general.

usually 20mm or lower. other than a keychron, all my proper boards are 20mm or lower.
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Neely_12 on Tue, 15 June 2021, 12:23:28
Cool idea with the rims. I would love to have a blue case with white rim
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: anpoint on Tue, 15 June 2021, 12:24:28
yup, sign me up for one!
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: NightRye_ on Wed, 16 June 2021, 00:24:00
During the design phase, I became aware of the Frusta Fundemental and knew that this question would come up. Iskar and Frusta Fundamental are not associated in any way and development on Iskar had already begun before the Frusta was announced (August 2020). I was simply waiting for a suitable time to post an IC.

I was just joking, there is always going to be similar boards that come up, glwic anyway.
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Wed, 16 June 2021, 00:43:59
During the design phase, I became aware of the Frusta Fundemental and knew that this question would come up. Iskar and Frusta Fundamental are not associated in any way and development on Iskar had already begun before the Frusta was announced (August 2020). I was simply waiting for a suitable time to post an IC.

I was just joking, there is always going to be similar boards that come up, glwic anyway.

No worries! Thanks for giving me an opportunity to answer that question. :)
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Wed, 16 June 2021, 00:44:16
Cool idea with the rims. I would love to have a blue case with white rim

Navy/Silver
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Sat, 19 June 2021, 22:00:08
Major things of note:

- Gasket Mount design is confirmed. Plate design is not.

- Iskar's switches are oriented to not interfere with any keycaps (GMK Included). The orientation may affect RGB lighting.

Thank you for your interest!
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: DogSpark on Wed, 23 June 2021, 20:41:13
Major things of note:

- Iskar features North Facing switches, not south facing.


Why make this decision to go back to North facing as showed in the renders, which you corrected it would not be?  I'm hoping you made a typo here. 
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: DogSpark on Wed, 23 June 2021, 20:58:58
Major things of note:



- Iskar's switches are oriented to not interfere with any keycaps (GMK Included). The orientation may affect RGB lighting.



phew... :D
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: ThomasLT on Thu, 24 June 2021, 03:04:00
wow I want one
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Wed, 30 June 2021, 16:41:54
Major things of note:

- Iskar features North Facing switches, not south facing.


Why make this decision to go back to North facing as showed in the renders, which you corrected it would not be?  I'm hoping you made a typo here.

No typo, thanks for your patience
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: steamb0x on Thu, 01 July 2021, 22:10:50
I think I'm in love :-*
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: FluffyWaffle on Fri, 02 July 2021, 04:15:16
I'm picking this one up, whatever the price  :D
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Scriba on Mon, 12 July 2021, 13:50:55
interesting
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: SŲlstic3 on Sat, 24 July 2021, 23:54:32
Beautiful board any updates? And can we also get a render with the rose weight.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Tue, 27 July 2021, 17:44:27
Beautiful board any updates? And can we also get a render with the rose weight.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk

Protos are almost done! new PCB and board design.
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Xherion on Fri, 30 July 2021, 02:41:47
Can't wait to check out the protos, will there be a sound test too?
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: JavelinJyc on Wed, 25 August 2021, 23:26:34
is the iskar make in china?
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Wed, 01 September 2021, 13:37:37
is the iskar make in china?

yes
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: Bitmxp on Wed, 01 September 2021, 13:38:00
Can't wait to check out the protos, will there be a sound test too?

Yep! Soon.
Title: Re: [IC] Iskar - 65% Keyboard from Bitmap Studio
Post by: SovereignFate on Tue, 07 September 2021, 04:33:18
Can't wait to check out the protos, will there be a sound test too?

Yep! Soon.

Will it be with linear and tactile aswell?