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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #300 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 00:27:42 »
Is the price because the split design doubles the individual parts in the kit?
That was something brought up when I was having a case designed for this.
yes it is, split, doubles CNC cost.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #301 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 00:31:54 »
Wow, I said a lot :) that could make some people uncomfortable.
GH is forum for custom keyboard discussion, So I think this is OK even in this thread which is -interesting check for keyboard kit-.

Haha to be fair anyone who spends this much on a keyboard should be equally or almost as nerdy as you are.
It's weird to spend so much money on something you don't understand.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #302 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 00:34:07 »
As far as price goes, as long as it stays under $700, I should be able to convince the wife to let me buy one. As for the SMT components, I have no problem soldering them. Means less work for you/your team. Just gives me something else to do for a little while!  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #303 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 00:59:59 »
As far as price goes, as long as it stays under $700, I should be able to convince the wife to let me buy one. As for the SMT components, I have no problem soldering them. Means less work for you/your team. Just gives me something else to do for a little while!  :thumb:
I'm hoping for under 600

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #304 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 01:06:29 »
As far as price goes, as long as it stays under $700, I should be able to convince the wife to let me buy one. As for the SMT components, I have no problem soldering them. Means less work for you/your team. Just gives me something else to do for a little while!  :thumb:
I'm hoping for under 600
As far as price goes, as long as it stays under $700, I should be able to convince the wife to let me buy one. As for the SMT components, I have no problem soldering them. Means less work for you/your team. Just gives me something else to do for a little while!  :thumb:

You've gone so far. I'll not doing this when it goes that high.
It's not just worth that much. I mean it.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #305 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 01:10:16 »
I've already sold a guitar and some of my mtg collection so I have money set aside to cover it even if it goes up :thumb:

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #306 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 01:32:54 »
Would you be willing to have extra PCBs made for people who'd rather just make their own case? And would these PCBs work with the old case files?
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #307 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 01:36:33 »
As far as price goes, as long as it stays under $700, I should be able to convince the wife to let me buy one. As for the SMT components, I have no problem soldering them. Means less work for you/your team. Just gives me something else to do for a little while!  :thumb:
I'm hoping for under 600
As far as price goes, as long as it stays under $700, I should be able to convince the wife to let me buy one. As for the SMT components, I have no problem soldering them. Means less work for you/your team. Just gives me something else to do for a little while!  :thumb:

You've gone so far. I'll not doing this when it goes that high.
It's not just worth that much. I mean it.

I appreciate that thought. It is no secret that I am a big fan of this design and form-factor, and reasonable pricing will definitely be a major factor for many of us who would love to support VE.A, but have a limited budget.

Hopefully, this is still a realistic dream, and we will be able to share the passion for such a cool keyboard.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #308 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 02:27:25 »
Would you be willing to have extra PCBs made for people who'd rather just make their own case? And would these PCBs work with the old case files?
No solid plan but if it helps, yes.
But old housing design is not fit with this PCB version.
I wish I can design acrylic case but I'm too busy recently.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #309 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 02:40:49 »
Hey Zefyr,

Love the board. I'm curious if the plate/PCB support a bottom row layout that doesn't have that 1u key in the bottom right (next to the split "space"). Based on your latest update to the OP, I'm assuming not, but I wanted to check.

Thanks so much for sharing your passion with us!

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #310 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 02:55:31 »
I've already sold a guitar and some of my mtg collection so I have money set aside to cover it even if it goes up :thumb:

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #311 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 03:23:05 »
Hey Zefyr,

Love the board. I'm curious if the plate/PCB support a bottom row layout that doesn't have that 1u key in the bottom right (next to the split "space"). Based on your latest update to the OP, I'm assuming not, but I wanted to check.

Thanks so much for sharing your passion with us!
No it deos not support other layout.
even if it does how can you get 3x bottom row keycap?
I designed that layout for ANSI 104+1.75 shift keyset coverage.
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« Reply #312 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 03:35:40 »
I have a small request! Could you show us how the keyboard looks in a video?

I know it will still be a while before I will ever get a chance to see it, but a video would be great!

I would especially love to see how the LED glows between the middle. It's a great look, and thank you for your efforts in trying to make the pricing as reasonable as possible. :thumb:

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #313 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 05:01:49 »
bump
Video added
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #314 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 05:09:44 »

  • No ISO layout support

I am sad now  :-[
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« Reply #315 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 05:36:04 »
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It's beautiful! Flow was so nice. :thumb:

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« Reply #316 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 05:38:51 »
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Thanks for the video! The frosted PC + LEDs work really well together. Looking forward to future updates on this. :)

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« Reply #317 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 07:28:34 »
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #318 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 07:37:02 »
It's so beautiful.  :'(
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #319 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 09:40:45 »
Looks like end game... Love the TAEYEON though.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #320 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 13:21:31 »
Very interested! Am I correct in that there is no sign up list as of now?

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« Reply #321 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 13:27:34 »
Looks like end game... Love the TAEYEON though.

It's definitely end game because if my g/f finds out how much I plan on spending on this, the game will definitely be over for me. RIP

Thanks for all of the effort pulling this together zefyr. Incredible keyboard.

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« Reply #322 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 14:16:02 »
Interesting.  But will it fly as well?
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« Reply #323 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 14:49:50 »
Looks like end game... Love the TAEYEON though.

this board is a beeeaauuuutaaaaaay
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #325 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 17:58:08 »
is the case cut from 1 solid piece, or do you have to make it from 2 pieces to get it to work?
because CNC time would not double if you just do it from 1? or do edges need to be worked on differently due to the split maybe?
although because it's so many layers... I really don't know :p
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #326 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 18:59:54 »
That video!!  I love it.  :D

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #327 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 22:59:15 »
Would you be willing to have extra PCBs made for people who'd rather just make their own case? And would these PCBs work with the old case files?
No solid plan but if it helps, yes.
But old housing design is not fit with this PCB version.
I wish I can design acrylic case but I'm too busy recently.
I can help with the design of acrylic case as long as the PCB layout drawing is available  :))
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« Reply #329 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 23:19:18 »
I wanted this before the video.......

Now, I NEED it! And when you NEED something, that's a responsibility!

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« Reply #330 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 23:34:24 »
Its a beautyyy

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« Reply #331 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 23:36:40 »


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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #333 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 23:52:42 »
Why not send the plans to a shop I the US? I'm sure you can find a trusted ghacker to help and partner up with. Prob be cheaper but can't say as I have no real experience in this sort of thing.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #334 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 23:54:16 »
Why not send the plans to a shop I the US? I'm sure you can find a trusted ghacker to help and partner up with. Prob be cheaper but can't say as I have no real experience in this sort of thing.

almost definitely would be more expensive. SK has much cheaper machining than the US as of now
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« Reply #335 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 23:55:51 »
Why not send the plans to a shop I the US? I'm sure you can find a trusted ghacker to help and partner up with. Prob be cheaper but can't say as I have no real experience in this sort of thing.

almost definitely would be more expensive. SK has much cheaper machining than the US as of now
Lol china then where build quality is a hit or miss or they will prob steal your design

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« Reply #336 on: Sun, 07 February 2016, 00:32:26 »
Why not send the plans to a shop I the US? I'm sure you can find a trusted ghacker to help and partner up with. Prob be cheaper but can't say as I have no real experience in this sort of thing.

almost definitely would be more expensive. SK has much cheaper machining than the US as of now
Lol china then where build quality is a hit or miss or they will prob steal your design

Right... And unproven QC, definitely a bad idea.

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« Reply #337 on: Sun, 07 February 2016, 03:09:33 »
Looks like end game... Love the TAEYEON though.

It's definitely end game because if my g/f finds out how much I plan on spending on this, the game will definitely be over for me. RIP

Thanks for all of the effort pulling this together zefyr. Incredible keyboard.

75% layout  :thumb:
macros for csgo buys :thumb:
split :thumb:
korean :thumb:
destroys wallets :thumb:
aluminium :thumb:

Yup. Glad I can't buy it because my wallet would be RIP again.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #338 on: Sun, 07 February 2016, 03:39:43 »
Looks like end game... Love the TAEYEON though.

It's definitely end game because if my g/f finds out how much I plan on spending on this, the game will definitely be over for me. RIP

Thanks for all of the effort pulling this together zefyr. Incredible keyboard.

75% layout  :thumb:
macros for csgo buys :thumb:
split :thumb:
korean :thumb:
destroys wallets :thumb:
aluminium :thumb:

Yup. Glad I can't buy it because my wallet would be RIP again.
Do it anyway tbh

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #339 on: Sun, 07 February 2016, 10:52:37 »
Looks like end game... Love the TAEYEON though.

It's definitely end game because if my g/f finds out how much I plan on spending on this, the game will definitely be over for me. RIP

Thanks for all of the effort pulling this together zefyr. Incredible keyboard.

75% layout - worst layout but can deal with it
macros for csgo buys - lame
split - yes
korean - who cares where it comes from
destroys wallets - worth it
aluminium - a must have

Yup. Glad I can't buy it because my wallet would be RIP again.

Fixed that for you :p
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #340 on: Sun, 07 February 2016, 10:56:53 »
Looks like end game... Love the TAEYEON though.

It's definitely end game because if my g/f finds out how much I plan on spending on this, the game will definitely be over for me. RIP

Thanks for all of the effort pulling this together zefyr. Incredible keyboard.

75% layout  :thumb:
macros for csgo buys :thumb:
split :thumb:
korean :thumb:
destroys wallets :thumb:
aluminium :thumb:

Yup. Glad I can't buy it because my wallet would be RIP again.
I like that you write "aluminium" instead of "aluminum." Ever since hearing that from a professor it has been my preferred pronunciation.

Also, why are Korean and aluminum keyboards so sought after?

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« Reply #341 on: Sun, 07 February 2016, 10:58:43 »
Looks like end game... Love the TAEYEON though.

It's definitely end game because if my g/f finds out how much I plan on spending on this, the game will definitely be over for me. RIP

Thanks for all of the effort pulling this together zefyr. Incredible keyboard.

75% layout  :thumb:
macros for csgo buys :thumb:
split :thumb:
korean :thumb:
destroys wallets :thumb:
aluminium :thumb:

Yup. Glad I can't buy it because my wallet would be RIP again.
I like that you write "aluminium" instead of "aluminum." Ever since hearing that from a professor it has been my preferred pronunciation.

Also, why are Korean and aluminum keyboards so sought after?

Korea is just where the fad originated, people are just wanting aluminum keyboards. Why wouldn't you want a solid board on your desk? Ever since I went with aluminum customs there is no chance I'm settling with anything else.
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« Reply #342 on: Sun, 07 February 2016, 10:59:33 »
Looks like end game... Love the TAEYEON though.

It's definitely end game because if my g/f finds out how much I plan on spending on this, the game will definitely be over for me. RIP

Thanks for all of the effort pulling this together zefyr. Incredible keyboard.

75% layout  :thumb:
macros for csgo buys :thumb:
split :thumb:
korean :thumb:
destroys wallets :thumb:
aluminium :thumb:

Yup. Glad I can't buy it because my wallet would be RIP again.
I like that you write "aluminium" instead of "aluminum." Ever since hearing that from a professor it has been my preferred pronunciation.

Also, why are Korean and aluminum keyboards so sought after?

Korea is just where the fad originated, people are just wanting aluminum keyboards. Why wouldn't you want a solid board on your desk? Ever since I went with aluminum customs there is no chance I'm settling with anything else.
I suppose it's something one would have to try in order to find out for themselves. Thank you for the info!

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« Reply #343 on: Sun, 07 February 2016, 11:12:36 »
I like that you write "aluminium" instead of "aluminum." Ever since hearing that from a professor it has been my preferred pronunciation.

Also, why are Korean and aluminum keyboards so sought after?
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« Reply #344 on: Sun, 07 February 2016, 15:14:08 »
I'm not from the US so that's why :-*

although I do say sidewalk etc

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« Reply #345 on: Sun, 07 February 2016, 15:22:08 »
Definitely interested. Your keyboards are beautiful zefyr.
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« Reply #346 on: Sun, 07 February 2016, 16:20:21 »
So long as the GB doesn't start until April or so, I should be able to buy one (presuming slot availability).

I just don't think I could manage anything sooner given the Vive's pre-order date is slated for the 29th.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #347 on: Sun, 07 February 2016, 17:47:28 »
So long as the GB doesn't start until April or so, I should be able to buy one (presuming slot availability).

I just don't think I could manage anything sooner given the Vive's pre-order date is slated for the 29th.

I believe it was quoted to start late February.
Though maybe he will delay it further for planning considering he has expanded his order limit.
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Offline romevi

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #348 on: Sun, 07 February 2016, 18:12:58 »
So long as the GB doesn't start until April or so, I should be able to buy one (presuming slot availability).

I just don't think I could manage anything sooner given the Vive's pre-order date is slated for the 29th.

I believe it was quoted to start late February.
Though maybe he will delay it further for planning considering he has expanded his order limit.

When did he confirm the order limit was increased?

Offline FrostyToast

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #349 on: Sun, 07 February 2016, 18:17:37 »
So long as the GB doesn't start until April or so, I should be able to buy one (presuming slot availability).

I just don't think I could manage anything sooner given the Vive's pre-order date is slated for the 29th.

I believe it was quoted to start late February.
Though maybe he will delay it further for planning considering he has expanded his order limit.

When did he confirm the order limit was increased?

I actually have an option to make it. I can hire people.
As I mentioned before, my factory's capacity is big enough everyone.
It's just my packaging, checking, shipping time that I'm short of.

But,
In that another way, It cannot be the same thing it used be.
a limited, somewhat rare, hard-to-get. Somebody (including me) want that as "Feature" of a board.
If many people thinks like that, I have to limit quantity.

I'm struggling with myself. Rarity? Practical? where I should go on this way?
As I talked with some friends, my little wish is "anyone who types" should uses split-style keyboard. not just VE series.
If that time comes, I can get good product in decent price. right? To be honest here, VE series? too expensive, even for me.

So, how do you think guys?

Never actually confirmed
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