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Title: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: senter on Tue, 31 October 2017, 10:02:41
Dear buyers in Time TKL group buy,

Some one have already received messages from DHL and should will receive the keyboard in this week.

At this moment I'd like to say thank you all for your support in this group buy.

Time TKL is the second keyboard we developed. It's a little crazy, yet special.
It's so special that not everyone like, but I'm glad I made it happen because you like it and joined the group buy.

Many buyers in Orange TKL group buy also joined this one. I'm so glad that I gain your trust.

Special thanks to zFrontier. They were very professional and patient through all the phases in this group buy and make sure everything goes well.

There are also three unexpected issues in the gb/keyboard.


At last, we'll be responsible for all possible problems. Feel free to ask me if you get any problems. My email address is runninghack[at]gmail[dot]com. Joining our discord channel (https://discord.gg/Z4Sq6br) is also an easy way to find me.

January 24, 2018
Senter



Introduction


(https://i.imgur.com/jpDiJNb.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/swXpk54.jpg)

IC post (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=91625.0)

Please find the detailed information and put your order on zFrontier (https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/keyboards/products/foxlab-time)

They will start accepting orders on November 2nd (eastern daylight time), 8 PM, right before TopClack (https://topclack.com/) starts.

Price

The price will be a fixed $458 with free shipping.

The pricing is like $390 for the board + $20 for paypal transaction fee + $50 for shipping (if it was a self-organized GB)

What you get


All the aluminum parts are either CNC machined or wire EDMed.

Fox Lab && zFrontier

Reasons why FoxLab is collaborating with zFrontier to organize and fulfill the GB for Time TKL:


Founder Edition


Contact


GB closed
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Tue, 31 October 2017, 15:47:38
As I mentioned, two days to go before GB starts on zfrontier (https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/keyboards/products/foxlab-time).

I didn't expect this post can be approved in such a short time. LOL
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: digi on Tue, 31 October 2017, 16:10:04
1st
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: gt1989 on Tue, 31 October 2017, 16:16:16
Are there anymore pictures of the color samples, the ones on the site are kind small.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: xondat on Tue, 31 October 2017, 16:45:59
1st

You're 2nd there mate.

GLWB senter :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Tue, 31 October 2017, 17:13:05
Are there anymore pictures of the color samples, the ones on the site are kind small.

Yes, check out these photos (https://imgur.com/a/OnMNY)
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Tue, 31 October 2017, 17:16:55
1st

You're 2nd there mate.

GLWB senter :thumb:

Thank you and GLWB for you 268 GB
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: gt1989 on Tue, 31 October 2017, 17:21:44
Are there anymore pictures of the color samples, the ones on the site are kind small.

Yes, check out these photos (https://imgur.com/a/OnMNY)
Awesome, thanks

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Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: ye_cole on Tue, 31 October 2017, 19:58:53
When will it end?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Tue, 31 October 2017, 20:18:26
When will it end?

Nov 2th - Nov 23th, 2017
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: _rubik on Tue, 31 October 2017, 21:25:04
I want to pull the trigger... but I just don't think I can. It's so painful to let this one go...
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: lanyusea on Wed, 01 November 2017, 00:34:30
When will it end?

Nov 2th - Nov 23th, 2017

so does it mean the GB in GH is non such limited as the one in ZF.cn?

I thought the GB of Time would start in China and overseas at the same time with both 66 units limited.  LOL
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: fishpod on Wed, 01 November 2017, 00:45:38
GLWGB :thumb: :thumb:

this is definitely gonna be a big and successful GB
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: Stresemann on Wed, 01 November 2017, 06:34:48
I would like to buy one. I hope there are more rendering photos available with other colors
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Wed, 01 November 2017, 07:09:59
When will it end?

Nov 2th - Nov 23th, 2017

so does it mean the GB in GH is non such limited as the one in ZF.cn?

I thought the GB of Time would start in China and overseas at the same time with both 66 units limited.  LOL

It's not limited here.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Wed, 01 November 2017, 07:15:16
I would like to buy one. I hope there are more rendering photos available with other colors

There're some renders for the emerald green version in the IC post. That's all I got.

You can also check out these photos (https://imgur.com/a/OnMNY) for color samples.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: Yeols on Wed, 01 November 2017, 07:49:46
Is it available 87keys(including windows keys) as well?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Wed, 01 November 2017, 07:57:48
Is it available 87keys(including windows keys) as well?

Yes, 87, 86, and 84 keys are all available.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: gt1989 on Wed, 01 November 2017, 09:41:01
I'm torn between the blue and green color for the case. Anyone know what are some SA keysets that would look good with a green case?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: aspenc4 on Wed, 01 November 2017, 09:53:56
Hana would look good on that imo


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Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: aspenc4 on Wed, 01 November 2017, 09:54:29
Or Grand Budapest


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Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: TerryMathews on Wed, 01 November 2017, 11:19:25
Is this BootMapper like Orange was?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: PotatoTM on Wed, 01 November 2017, 11:26:16
What an absolutely stunning board, I sadly won't be getting this one but look forward to your future projects!
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Wed, 01 November 2017, 11:59:44
Is this BootMapper like Orange was?

The PCBs use atmega32a as the controller which means they can be programmed using bootmapper client. They were supplied by another team who makes PCBs.

BTW, I'm working on a 32u4 or 32u2 version as well. I can make the schematics and TMK/QMK firmware but I'm not good at making the PCB file. This won't be an option in this GB but I'll work it out some day at least for myself.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: nurupism on Wed, 01 November 2017, 13:15:10
Thanks for opening this up, been looking forward to this for a long time.

What is the pricing like for the brass weight? Does it replace all 11 pieces of aluminum?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: Tally810 on Wed, 01 November 2017, 15:10:14
Will the clock be brass if I do the brass upgrade?

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Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: //gainsborough on Wed, 01 November 2017, 15:23:01
Thanks for opening this up, been looking forward to this for a long time.

What is the pricing like for the brass weight? Does it replace all 11 pieces of aluminum?

I'm interested in knowing this as well!
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: KetchyKech on Wed, 01 November 2017, 16:38:12
Im def in. Senter, I'd like to know if there will be a carrying case included this time around and if we can pick the color of top and bottom half (if I were to get two different colors for the halves for example). Thank you! Looking forward to this.  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Wed, 01 November 2017, 16:53:38
Oh boy, really excited to get my hands on this!

Just a question: Looks like the PCB supports split right shift and split backspace,and it seems like the MX plate supports that configuration, but does the alps plate supports that configuration? I think I remember senter mentioned that the alps plate is not universal in the IC thread, just wondering if anything changed between then and now.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Wed, 01 November 2017, 19:37:57
Thanks for opening this up, been looking forward to this for a long time.

What is the pricing like for the brass weight? Does it replace all 11 pieces of aluminum?

Upgrading to brass weight will cost around $92 or so. All the 11 pieces will be brass.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Wed, 01 November 2017, 19:41:50
Im def in. Senter, I'd like to know if there will be a carrying case included this time around and if we can pick the color of top and bottom half (if I were to get two different colors for the halves for example). Thank you! Looking forward to this.  :eek:

Sorry, no carrying case this time, and not available for different colors on two halves
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Wed, 01 November 2017, 19:47:52
Oh boy, really excited to get my hands on this!

Just a question: Looks like the PCB supports split right shift and split backspace,and it seems like the MX plate supports that configuration, but does the alps plate supports that configuration? I think I remember senter mentioned that the alps plate is not universal in the IC thread, just wondering if anything changed between then and now.

The PCB was designed by another team and this is the first time they make ALPS compatible PCBs. Honestly I'm not 100% sure what layouts it will support without problems. For now it's only safe to say it will support WKL 84 key layout. We'll figure it out the compatibility and make it fully tested of course.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: Eric404atx on Wed, 01 November 2017, 22:36:55
Anyone else notice the typo in the renders showing "founder editon"?  I hope this isn't on the production models.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: xondat on Wed, 01 November 2017, 23:13:32
Anyone else notice the typo in the renders showing "founder editon"?  I hope this isn't on the production models.

Could be a translation issue as I've seen that before.

For the note, it should be "Founders Edition" :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Thu, 02 November 2017, 08:06:25
Anyone else notice the typo in the renders showing "founder editon"?  I hope this isn't on the production models.

Yes, that was a typo. It's been fixed already.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: JDragon on Thu, 02 November 2017, 16:56:54
Will the brass be coated to prevent tarnishing?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Thu, 02 November 2017, 17:06:06
Will the brass be coated to prevent tarnishing?

Yes
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: elightcap on Thu, 02 November 2017, 19:00:47
Ordered! How do i know if i got founders?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: //gainsborough on Thu, 02 November 2017, 19:03:23
Ordered! How do i know if i got founders?

I was wondering that as well!  Hahaha.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: BJW on Thu, 02 November 2017, 19:15:27
I just have ordered Time TKL and have some questions about it.
1. what is the difference between 'extra time logo aluminum plate' and 'extra regular MX compatible plate'.
2. As I ordered mine through en.Zfroniter, how can I select the color and what key settings I want(I want 86 with 6.25 spacebar)
3. From the post, it is said that the GB starts at 8PM for EDT which is 9AM for KST(next day). But I have found that the thread was already opened at 8:57. I really wanted a Founders' edition as I could not afford to buy Orange TKL.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 02 November 2017, 19:21:56
Ordered! How do i know if i got founders?

Better question yet, what even is the founders?

Edit: I'm blind, seen it on the OP now. Durr.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: beerafffe1 on Thu, 02 November 2017, 19:45:55
Is there any sample of the rose pink weights and plates? Hard to make the decision on which color to get.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Thu, 02 November 2017, 20:08:44
I just have ordered Time TKL and have some questions about it.
1. what is the difference between 'extra time logo aluminum plate' and 'extra regular MX compatible plate'.
2. As I ordered mine through en.Zfroniter, how can I select the color and what key settings I want(I want 86 with 6.25 spacebar)
3. From the post, it is said that the GB starts at 8PM for EDT which is 9AM for KST(next day). But I have found that the thread was already opened at 8:57. I really wanted a Founders' edition as I could not afford to buy Orange TKL.

Thank you for your order!

1. 'time logo aluminum plate' is the 'Time' logo on the front.  'regular MX compatible plate' is the switch plate
2. There're options for colors. They didn't add the layout options but now they're adding the options now. Please contact the customer service of zFrontier to confirm your layout. Here's the email you can send emails to: support@zfrontier.com
3. The launch time should be correct. I guess you mixed up EST and EDT.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Thu, 02 November 2017, 20:09:39
Is there any sample of the rose pink weights and plates? Hard to make the decision on which color to get.

There're only color samples for rose pink. You can find them on zFrontier.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Thu, 02 November 2017, 20:19:11
The first several orders didn't have layout options (84, 86, 87). The default setting is 87 WK layout. If you're the first people who placed orders and want to choose 84 or 86 layouts, please contact support@zfrontier.com
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 02 November 2017, 20:23:36
The first several orders didn't have layout options (84, 86, 87). The default setting is 87 WK layout. If you're the first people who placed orders and want to choose 84 or 86 layouts, please contact support@zfrontier.com

Pardon my ignorance but if 87 is WK, then 84 is WKL and 86 is... something? Sorry if this is obvious.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 02 November 2017, 20:26:07
The first several orders didn't have layout options (84, 86, 87). The default setting is 87 WK layout. If you're the first people who placed orders and want to choose 84 or 86 layouts, please contact support@zfrontier.com

Pardon my ignorance but if 87 is WK, then 84 is WKL and 86 is... something? Sorry if this is obvious.

I think it's WKL without blockers.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Thu, 02 November 2017, 20:28:12
The first several orders didn't have layout options (84, 86, 87). The default setting is 87 WK layout. If you're the first people who placed orders and want to choose 84 or 86 layouts, please contact support@zfrontier.com

Pardon my ignorance but if 87 is WK, then 84 is WKL and 86 is... something? Sorry if this is obvious.

Actually I don't know how people call these three layouts. I check some posts and found they just call them 84, 86, and 87 layouts. That's how the options show on zfrontier currently. Tell me if it's not correct.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: BJW on Thu, 02 November 2017, 20:32:29
There are two types of 86 key with the one 7U spacebar and 6.25U spacebar
Which one do you support? I would prefer 86 with 6.25U
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: Delirious on Thu, 02 November 2017, 20:35:26
87 = no blockers
86 = chinese winkeyless with small blockers (6.25u)
84 = og winkeyless with big blockers (7u)

Also senter can we have the option of alps plate right off the main order?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Thu, 02 November 2017, 20:39:39
There are two types of 86 key with the one 7U spacebar and 6.25U spacebar
Which one do you support? I would prefer 86 with 6.25U

Our 86 key layout is exactly the type you like.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Thu, 02 November 2017, 20:42:34
87 = no blockers
86 = chinese winkeyless with small blockers (6.25u)
84 = og winkeyless with big blockers (7u)

Also senter can we have the option of alps plate right off the main order?

ALPS plates are only available as an extra part which cost $22. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: Vigrith on Thu, 02 November 2017, 21:16:10
Actually I don't know how people call these three layouts. I check some posts and found they just call them 84, 86, and 87 layouts. That's how the options show on zfrontier currently. Tell me if it's not correct.

I think it's WKL without blockers.

87 = no blockers
86 = chinese winkeyless with small blockers (6.25u)
84 = og winkeyless with big blockers (7u)

Also senter can we have the option of alps plate right off the main order?

Thanks homies, Delirious' explanation makes perfect sense, it was just hard for me to picture it without actual images portraying the different layouts as I'm not super familiar with the nomenclature.

86 key it is then!
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: KetchyKech on Thu, 02 November 2017, 21:38:03
Ordered!!! Msg'ing you now for dat founders <3  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: Sylanthra on Thu, 02 November 2017, 22:09:59
I am confused about the logo. There is an option to buy an extra brass logo plate, but no option to upgrade the logo to brass. Does this mean that logo is brass by default? If not, can you add an upgrade option, I don't want to pay extra for the aluminum logo that I will never use.

Thanks.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Thu, 02 November 2017, 22:26:48
I am confused about the logo. There is an option to buy an extra brass logo plate, but no option to upgrade the logo to brass. Does this mean that logo is brass by default? If not, can you add an upgrade option, I don't want to pay extra for the aluminum logo that I will never use.

Thanks.

The default logo plate is in aluminum. The only way to get a brass "Time" logo is to buy an extra one. It's not able to add all customization options on the website. And we're not able to add that option for you. Sorry about that. The aluminum logo only sells for $10.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: Jokrik on Thu, 02 November 2017, 22:45:08
Hello good sir, very interesting keyboard and thinking to get one
wondering how heavy the keyboard roughly after assembly?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Thu, 02 November 2017, 22:51:10
Would love to know if I got founders edition. I really hope I made it in TIME! (... I'll show myself out...)
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Fri, 03 November 2017, 07:16:44
Hello good sir, very interesting keyboard and thinking to get one
wondering how heavy the keyboard roughly after assembly?

top and bottom cases + aluminum plate + aluminum weight = 3.7 lbs

It will be how heavier with brass weights of course.

We didn't measure it after assembly.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Fri, 03 November 2017, 07:17:23
Would love to know if I got founders edition. I really hope I made it in TIME! (... I'll show myself out...)

You should be. There were not so many people joined last night.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: vtachkov on Fri, 03 November 2017, 09:57:07
Just placed an order (hoping not too late for dat founders edition), but I wasn't decided on upgrading to the brass weight. Will we still be able to add additional items up until the GB ends?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Fri, 03 November 2017, 10:30:55
Just placed an order (hoping not too late for dat founders edition), but I wasn't decided on upgrading to the brass weight. Will we still be able to add additional items up until the GB ends?

Yes, you still have plenty time to decide.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: ElvenSmite on Fri, 03 November 2017, 13:40:54
Ordered (Hopefully in time for founders edition... )!
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: dante on Fri, 03 November 2017, 15:19:25
This desperately needs Chrono Trigger music playing in the background.

Edit: Or the movie Interstellar!
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: papa on Sat, 04 November 2017, 23:47:26
Ordered!  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Sun, 05 November 2017, 07:48:58
Here's a build video from /u/manofinterests

Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: Sylvester on Tue, 07 November 2017, 20:28:33
Here's a build video from /u/manofinterests


The matte black PCB looks great!
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: mbljs5555 on Sun, 12 November 2017, 18:17:10
Can't wait! :D
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Mon, 13 November 2017, 15:34:44
Thanks Brian and Huey, Time TKL showed up on NorCal Meetup: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7ce4z1/my_norcal_meetup_bestof_list/
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: lshlsh1995 on Thu, 16 November 2017, 00:00:05
So if I order it now, do I still have a chance of getting founder edition?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: lshlsh1995 on Thu, 16 November 2017, 09:34:43
The first several orders didn't have layout options (84, 86, 87). The default setting is 87 WK layout. If you're the first people who placed orders and want to choose 84 or 86 layouts, please contact support@zfrontier.com

SO if I order now, do I still have a chance of getting the founder edition ones?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Thu, 16 November 2017, 14:31:08
So if I order it now, do I still have a chance of getting founder edition?

The first 38 orders will be founder editions. You can ask zFrontier to confirm what version you will get. I don't know the current number. There were about 10 old customers contacted me about their purchase. They will get founder editions as well but they are not included in the 38 orders.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: manofinterests on Sun, 19 November 2017, 13:31:59
I just finished my review of the Time TKL!

Here it is:

Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Sun, 19 November 2017, 13:59:58
I just finished my review of the Time TKL!

Here it is:


Thank you for the professional review. This is a prototype version. The CNC and anodizing will be even better in the final products. The design of little tip has been changed a little bit to make it stronger. /u/zF_IndianaJones or I can send you a replacement of that part.

BTW, nice stickers on your table :)
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: nurupism on Sun, 19 November 2017, 22:22:11
Hey Senter, do you have any photos of what color/shade the brass weights are? Are they going to be the same color as the brass weight on the Fox Orange?
I'm trying to figure out how good they would look with a black case.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Mon, 20 November 2017, 09:13:46
Hey Senter, do you have any photos of what color/shade the brass weights are? Are they going to be the same color as the brass weight on the Fox Orange?
I'm trying to figure out how good they would look with a black case.

Brass weights for Time TKL haven't been made. The color is identical to the brass weight on Orange TKL.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: GeauxBulldogs on Tue, 21 November 2017, 11:24:43
Hello.  I'm new to Mech Keyboards and this will be my first custom build.  If I were to upgrade to brass weights, would I still get a set of aluminum weights in the color of my choice?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 21 November 2017, 12:08:34
Hello.  I'm new to Mech Keyboards and this will be my first custom build.  If I were to upgrade to brass weights, would I still get a set of aluminum weights in the color of my choice?

not unless you order an alu weight to go with it, no
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Tue, 21 November 2017, 13:18:56
Hello.  I'm new to Mech Keyboards and this will be my first custom build.  If I were to upgrade to brass weights, would I still get a set of aluminum weights in the color of my choice?

I'm glad you're choosing Time TKL as your first custom keyboard. Puddsy was right about your question.

Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - Last two days!
Post by: euphoria on Tue, 21 November 2017, 14:41:22
Hello, I am considering joining this group buy, however on zFrontier there doesn't seem to be an option of picking the color when adding it to the cart. Is this intentional? If so how do we specify what colors we want?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - Last two days!
Post by: senter on Tue, 21 November 2017, 15:52:10
Hello, I am considering joining this group buy, however on zFrontier there doesn't seem to be an option of picking the color when adding it to the cart. Is this intentional? If so how do we specify what colors we want?

Is this (https://en.zfrontier.com/products/foxlab-time) the page you were looking at? There're 4 options of colors as I can see. The second option is for the color of top/bottom cases. The 3rd option is for the bottom parts, plate, and logo plate.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - Last two days!
Post by: euphoria on Tue, 21 November 2017, 16:06:46
Yes it is. This is the page as I see it. I only see one drop down menu on the whole page. Hopefully I'm not missing anything..
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - Last two days!
Post by: senter on Tue, 21 November 2017, 16:17:55
Yes it is. This is the page as I see it. I only see one drop down menu on the whole page. Hopefully I'm not missing anything..

I guess it's a technical problem. Could you try to use another browser?

You can also contact zFrontier and see what's the problem.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - Last two days!
Post by: euphoria on Tue, 21 November 2017, 16:28:06
I have tried multiple browsers and still no luck. Will reach out to support and see what I can do.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: BJW on Tue, 21 November 2017, 21:39:59
Hey Senter, do you have any photos of what color/shade the brass weights are? Are they going to be the same color as the brass weight on the Fox Orange?
I'm trying to figure out how good they would look with a black case.

Brass weights for Time TKL haven't been made. The color is identical to the brass weight on Orange TKL.

Where can I see the color of brass weight on Orange TKL cannot find one
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 21 November 2017, 22:00:18
Hey Senter, do you have any photos of what color/shade the brass weights are? Are they going to be the same color as the brass weight on the Fox Orange?
I'm trying to figure out how good they would look with a black case.

Brass weights for Time TKL haven't been made. The color is identical to the brass weight on Orange TKL.

Where can I see the color of brass weight on Orange TKL cannot find one

it's just normal uncoated brass
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL
Post by: senter on Tue, 21 November 2017, 23:05:44
Hey Senter, do you have any photos of what color/shade the brass weights are? Are they going to be the same color as the brass weight on the Fox Orange?
I'm trying to figure out how good they would look with a black case.

Brass weights for Time TKL haven't been made. The color is identical to the brass weight on Orange TKL.

Where can I see the color of brass weight on Orange TKL cannot find one

There's an option 'upgrade from aluminum weight to brass weight' on this page: https://en.zfrontier.com/collections/keyboards/products/foxlab-time-ac?variant=271550775307
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: elightcap on Wed, 29 November 2017, 12:27:45
Sorry if its posted somewhere (im sure it is) but i don't remember, is there a schedule/timeline for production and shipping on this?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: shadowrealmwarez on Wed, 29 November 2017, 12:39:03
Sorry if its posted somewhere (im sure it is) but i don't remember, is there a schedule/timeline for production and shipping on this?

From the zfrontier page:

Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Yeols on Sat, 16 December 2017, 19:21:58
I want to know the progress of the work. :p
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: senter on Sat, 16 December 2017, 23:09:09
I want to know the progress of the work. :p

Everything is going well so far. The production will be finished late this month or early next month. After that we'll examine the quality then ship all the boards to zFrontier. zFrontier will double check the quality and ship the boards to you.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: quanghuy1200 on Sun, 17 December 2017, 00:33:10
Sorry guys
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: blacksimon on Sun, 17 December 2017, 23:25:02
I have join the GB but I need the money for now. I got the FE No. but don't know the exact number yet. Mine is black color full upgrade to brass and 1 extra black alu logo.
https://imgur.com/wPHPWb1
WTS it at: $570


why you gotta cross out the package prices like that bro, you afraid we're gonna dox you based on your currency or what?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Pell99 on Mon, 18 December 2017, 03:33:36
I am really looking forward.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: BJW on Mon, 01 January 2018, 20:13:37
Happy new year~

Any updates?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: senter on Mon, 01 January 2018, 22:10:07
Happy new year~

Any updates?

Happy new year. Anodizing will be started tomorrow. You can expect anodizing to be finished in one week.
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Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 01 January 2018, 22:23:38
Happy new year~

Any updates?

Happy new year. Anodizing will be started tomorrow. You can expect anodizing to be finished in one week.

christ

we're looking at another 6 week GB

why can't every GB be like this
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: alienman82 on Mon, 01 January 2018, 23:33:04
removed.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: senter on Mon, 08 January 2018, 22:03:20
Quick update: Anodizing has been finished. Sorting starts today.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: gt1989 on Mon, 08 January 2018, 22:09:20
Quick update: Anodizing has been finished. Sorting starts today.
Awesome, you don't happen to have any pictures to share, do you?

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: BJW on Tue, 09 January 2018, 12:25:27
Amazing speed! After sorting will the ktis be shipped?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: senter on Fri, 12 January 2018, 09:51:42
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Amazing speed! After sorting will the ktis be shipped?

(https://i.imgur.com/mJVVVYb.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/z1wAPem.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/04Fv5au.jpg)

Sorting on our side has been finished. All the boards are being shipped to zfrontier. zfrontier will do the QC again, then package and ship boards to you.
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Post by: BJW on Fri, 12 January 2018, 10:38:48
You guys are so fast... did not even waste time in taking pictures of Time TKL kit. :)) :))
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Post by: avid on Fri, 12 January 2018, 11:00:23
Very impressive.
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Post by: TechieWeirdo on Sat, 13 January 2018, 06:03:13
Very impressive of the professionalism and effectiveness. One of the quickest GBs I have ever joined so far. How long will the delivery to zFrontier and QC take (approximately)?
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Post by: Pell99 on Sun, 14 January 2018, 09:13:07
That's really fast!  :thumb:
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Post by: lanyusea on Sun, 14 January 2018, 21:08:17
well....

that's the normal speed for keeb's GB in China  :D
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: BJW on Thu, 18 January 2018, 06:05:44
Is this using USB Mini B cable  or USB C type or micro 5pin?
Also is there any picture of the kit?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: AgonizedFish on Sun, 21 January 2018, 22:24:31
Any news on the status of the kits? I haven't seen any updates!
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: senter on Sun, 21 January 2018, 22:35:54
Is this using USB Mini B cable  or USB C type or micro 5pin?
Also is there any picture of the kit?

USB Mini B

Any news on the status of the kits? I haven't seen any updates!

We've sent all the boards to zFrontier for more than one week. The buyers in the Chinese GB have already received their boards. zFrontier checked more carefully on the international ones since this shipping will be expensive if problems happen.

I just asked zFrontier about the status. They told me that boards will be shipped in two days.

Here're some photos shared by Chinese buyers:

(https://i.imgur.com/ppxKWjP.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/HwxsJv3.png)

Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: tanvir175 on Mon, 22 January 2018, 16:01:38
Oh man, I wish I could have jumped on this.

Any plans to bring back the Time keeb, maybe in other form factors? Or will your next project be completely different?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 22 January 2018, 16:30:53
Oh man, I wish I could have jumped on this.

Any plans to bring back the Time keeb, maybe in other form factors? Or will your next project be completely different?

Would also love another run, in any form factor/layout, really. This keyboard is incredibly special.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: senter on Mon, 22 January 2018, 17:20:10
Oh man, I wish I could have jumped on this.

Any plans to bring back the Time keeb, maybe in other form factors? Or will your next project be completely different?


Would also love another run, in any form factor/layout, really. This keyboard is incredibly special.

Time TKL was a little crazy even for me. I'm glad I tried to make such a special keyboard come true.

I'm considering to make the next one a little regular. Orange/Pizza in 75% layout might be worth trying since I've been asked for many times.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: tanvir175 on Mon, 22 January 2018, 21:20:48
Oh man, I wish I could have jumped on this.

Any plans to bring back the Time keeb, maybe in other form factors? Or will your next project be completely different?

Would also love another run, in any form factor/layout, really. This keyboard is incredibly special.

Yeah, that is the most gorgeous "rear end" of a keyboard I've seen. It would have been super insane if it had moving parts and worked as a clock but it's for the better that it didn't, lol.


Time TKL was a little crazy even for me. I'm glad I tried to make such a special keyboard come true.

I'm considering to make the next one a little regular. Orange/Pizza in 75% layout might be worth trying since I've been asked for many times.

I'll be keeping an eye out on your other projects and patiently waiting for another Time Keeb, if you decide to run it again :)
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: breusch91 on Tue, 23 January 2018, 00:11:24
Oh man, I wish I could have jumped on this.

Any plans to bring back the Time keeb, maybe in other form factors? Or will your next project be completely different?


Would also love another run, in any form factor/layout, really. This keyboard is incredibly special.

Time TKL was a little crazy even for me. I'm glad I tried to make such a special keyboard come true.

I'm considering to make the next one a little regular. Orange/Pizza in 75% layout might be worth trying since I've been asked for many times.

Do an infinity ergodox case! files are already freely available, just need to be spiced up with some cool flair!
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: lanyusea on Tue, 23 January 2018, 00:18:54
Oh man, I wish I could have jumped on this.

Any plans to bring back the Time keeb, maybe in other form factors? Or will your next project be completely different?


Would also love another run, in any form factor/layout, really. This keyboard is incredibly special.

Time TKL was a little crazy even for me. I'm glad I tried to make such a special keyboard come true.

I'm considering to make the next one a little regular. Orange/Pizza in 75% layout might be worth trying since I've been asked for many times.

Do an infinity ergodox case! files are already freely available, just need to be spiced up with some cool flair!

They runned an ergo case GB in China last year.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: elightcap on Wed, 24 January 2018, 11:20:00
awwww yeah just got my tracking, board should be here friday. so quick.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: senter on Wed, 24 January 2018, 19:02:01
Dear buyers in Time TKL group buy,

Some one have already received messages from DHL and should will receive the keyboard in this week.

At this moment I'd like to say thank you all for your support in this group buy.

Time TKL is the second keyboard we developed. It's a little crazy, yet special.
It's so special that not everyone like, but I'm glad I made it happen because you like it and joined the group buy.

Many buyers in Orange TKL group buy also joined this one. I'm so glad that I gain your trust.

Special thanks to zFrontier. They were very professional and patient through all the phases in this group buy and make sure everything goes well.

There are also three unexpected issues in the gb/keyboard.


At last, we'll be responsible for all possible problems. Feel free to ask me if you get any problems. My email address is runninghack[at]gmail[dot]com. Joining our discord channel (https://discord.gg/Z4Sq6br) is also an easy way to find me.

January 24, 2018
Senter
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: TechieWeirdo on Thu, 25 January 2018, 04:04:14
Already got mine! Will upload some pics soon!

Edit: Added Pics ( https://imgur.com/gallery/Z0rsw )
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: tanvir175 on Thu, 25 January 2018, 08:47:42
Already got mine! Will upload some pics soon!

Edit: Added Pics ( https://imgur.com/gallery/Z0rsw )

****, I'm even more upset I missed this. That's beautiful.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Wongstongs on Thu, 25 January 2018, 11:03:38
For that price I would be extremely upset with that fit and finish. Brass is just scratched to all hell.
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Post by: nurupism on Thu, 25 January 2018, 13:34:21
Already got mine! Will upload some pics soon!

Edit: Added Pics ( https://imgur.com/gallery/Z0rsw )

As someone who also ordered the brass weight, the scratches are really concerning. Are all the brass weights like this?

For an extra $100, it would be pretty disappointing if that is the case.
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Post by: OmegaSupreme on Thu, 25 January 2018, 13:44:45
Already got mine! Will upload some pics soon!

Edit: Added Pics ( https://imgur.com/gallery/Z0rsw )

As someone who also ordered the brass weight, the scratches are really concerning. Are all the brass weights like this?

For an extra $100, it would be pretty disappointing if that is the case.

That looks like someone went out of their way to scratch it up.  I wonder what went on there.  Hopefully, this is just a one off.
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Post by: DALExSNAIL on Thu, 25 January 2018, 14:28:20
Already got mine! Will upload some pics soon!

Edit: Added Pics ( https://imgur.com/gallery/Z0rsw )

Well that's dissapointing
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 25 January 2018, 15:28:39
Already got mine! Will upload some pics soon!

Edit: Added Pics ( https://imgur.com/gallery/Z0rsw )

As someone who also ordered the brass weight, the scratches are really concerning. Are all the brass weights like this?

For an extra $100, it would be pretty disappointing if that is the case.

That looks like someone went out of their way to scratch it up.  I wonder what went on there.  Hopefully, this is just a one off.

Brass is a very soft metal, and (to my knowledge, i'm no machinist) scratches like this are common on machined brass parts.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: senter on Thu, 25 January 2018, 18:52:14
Dear buyers in Time TKL group buy,

Some one have already received messages from DHL and should will receive the keyboard in this week.

At this moment I'd like to say thank you all for your support in this group buy.

Time TKL is the second keyboard we developed. It's a little crazy, yet special.
It's so special that not everyone like, but I'm glad I made it happen because you like it and joined the group buy.

Many buyers in Orange TKL group buy also joined this one. I'm so glad that I gain your trust.

Special thanks to zFrontier. They were very professional and patient through all the phases in this group buy and make sure everything goes well.

There are also three unexpected issues in the gb/keyboard.

  • The secret gift for founder editions we intended to give were custom-made desk mats. We changed our mind at last because of lack of time. The final secret gifts are not so special but are pricier than the original one.
  • The brass weights were planned to be electroplated. However, the factory found that the small brass parts will be burnt to black with normal electroplating. We decided to only polish the brass surface lightly and keep the raw brass parts as is. You can compare the electroplated brass (https://imgur.com/7uyBMgf) and raw brass (https://imgur.com/BrsZveo) small parts. If your brass parts are oxidized in the future, the recommended treatment for them are applying a mixture of lemon juice + baking soda. You can also contact me if you’re not satisfied with the brass parts.
  • The design of top case is a little lack of consideration that the assembled plate is pretty difficult to be screwed in the top case. You'll need to find the correct angle to put together the plate and top case, which is tricky. A easy way to solve this problem is to solder switches while the plate is attached to the top case.

At last, we'll be responsible for all possible problems. Feel free to ask me if you get any problems. My email address is runninghack[at]gmail[dot]com. Joining our discord channel (https://discord.gg/Z4Sq6br) is also an easy way to find me.

January 24, 2018
Senter

I'm sorry for the scratches of brass parts. Totally 28 sets of brass weights were sold. We'll take care of these orders. Aluminum parts don't have problems AFAIK.

Reasons of scratches: The original plan was bead blasting + anodizing. Bead blasting will remove the scratches, anodizing will provide a beautiful finish. As I explained, anodizing has some problems on small brass parts, only bead blasting makes the surface dark and won't look good. Another method we can use is polishing, however the factory can't polish small parts very well.

We choose polishing at last because We believe this is the best option. Since these are raw brass parts, you can polish them manually with fine sand papers. It's not difficult to make them look incredible. If it's unacceptable to you, here are the options I can provide:

1) Replacing the brass parts with anodized aluminum parts. I'll cover all the costs and refund you the price difference.
2) Replacing the long straight brass parts. I've talked with the factory about the issues. They said they can try to make the two long straight brass parts better. They can't do anything to the other brass parts. I'll cover all the costs.
3) Returning the brass parts to the factory for bead blasting. The bead blasted brass parts will look dark but without scratches. Polishing bead blasted brass parts will ruin the finish. I'll cover all the costs.

I didn't make this GB perfect but I'll try my best to fix it. If you have any other suggestions, please let me know.

Send me an email with the

Thank you
Senter
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: senter on Thu, 25 January 2018, 19:16:56
https://imgur.com/a/htBMb

Here's the result of several minutes' manually polishing
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: excluisve on Thu, 25 January 2018, 19:33:52
Actually I have read this thread all days

Brass always be a question ,but it also have solvement .

Like this scratch you can polish it easily I think.

Run a gb not easy ,especially big gb

Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: lanyusea on Fri, 26 January 2018, 06:52:50
Actually I have read this thread all days

Brass always be a question ,but it also have solvement .

Like this scratch you can polish it easily I think.

Run a gb not easy ,especially big gb

agree
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: lanyusea on Fri, 26 January 2018, 07:07:13
Already got mine! Will upload some pics soon!

Edit: Added Pics ( https://imgur.com/gallery/Z0rsw )

As someone who also ordered the brass weight, the scratches are really concerning. Are all the brass weights like this?

For an extra $100, it would be pretty disappointing if that is the case.

That looks like someone went out of their way to scratch it up.  I wonder what went on there.  Hopefully, this is just a one off.

I saw someone post her brass weight, it looks not that bad. http://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/4401 (Please ignore things other than Time TKL)
Hopefully, just a one off.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: BJW on Fri, 26 January 2018, 07:34:42


I saw someone post her brass weight, it looks not that bad. http://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/4401 (Please ignore things other than Time TKL)
Hopefully, just a one off.

Isn't this aluminum? by the looks of color I think its not brass: too bright compared to mine
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: TechieWeirdo on Fri, 26 January 2018, 07:54:51
 
Already got mine! Will upload some pics soon!

Edit: Added Pics ( https://imgur.com/gallery/Z0rsw )

As someone who also ordered the brass weight, the scratches are really concerning. Are all the brass weights like this?

For an extra $100, it would be pretty disappointing if that is the case.

That looks like someone went out of their way to scratch it up.  I wonder what went on there.  Hopefully, this is just a one off.

I saw someone post her brass weight, it looks not that bad. http://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/4401 (Please ignore things other than Time TKL)
Hopefully, just a one off.

Idk man, mine's really scratched up, don't think this is brass too, btw did anyone notice that there's gold screws for the top and bottom weight? I got grey ones 🤔
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: hormbre on Fri, 26 January 2018, 08:30:24

Personally, I like the brass weight, which is more matchable with the retro punk style of TIME kbd. It may not be a good idea to make it too bright.

It is an impressive product, which took a very short time to make and send out. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

To the one who prefers a brighter brass weight, you may rub it down with sandpaper, it is not a hard working though  :) :) :)
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Post by: KetchyKech on Fri, 26 January 2018, 16:16:56
(https://i.imgur.com/ynvcYqB.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/itX7Jho.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/53KpV87.jpg)

Rawwrrr founder's edition has arrived and I love the color. Although less green than I envisioned. I think the founder's gift was some clear stabs? I do like the inscription!  :thumb:

can't wait to build this when I get some free time.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: AgonizedFish on Fri, 26 January 2018, 16:34:45
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ynvcYqB.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/itX7Jho.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/53KpV87.jpg)


Rawwrrr founder's edition has arrived and I love the color. Although less green than I envisioned. I think the founder's gift was some clear stabs? I do like the inscription!  :thumb:

can't wait to build this when I get some free time.

Wow the cyan(green?) and silver is gorgeous! I'm somewhat regretting not going with it now! What caps are you going with for your build?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: KetchyKech on Fri, 26 January 2018, 16:42:47
Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/ynvcYqB.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/itX7Jho.jpg)


Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/53KpV87.jpg)


Rawwrrr founder's edition has arrived and I love the color. Although less green than I envisioned. I think the founder's gift was some clear stabs? I do like the inscription!  :thumb:

can't wait to build this when I get some free time.

Wow the cyan(green?) and silver is gorgeous! I'm somewhat regretting not going with it now! What caps are you going with for your build?

I'd like to use my GMK Iris :) !!

thanks!
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: gt1989 on Fri, 26 January 2018, 18:03:33
Are the stabs that came with the Founder's Edition boards from Zeal PC?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: zl_ramiel on Fri, 26 January 2018, 18:11:16
Are the stabs that came with the Founder's Edition boards from Zeal PC?

Senter mentioned on discord that the gifts are Zeal stabs which worth $35 I guess.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Tre3Cycl3S on Fri, 26 January 2018, 23:50:43
Got my Time TKL! It looks gorgeous besides the imperfections of the brass parts. Here are some pictures: (pictures taken using my phone, sorry for the poor quality)

[attachimg=1][attachimg=6]

Some close up of imperfections:

[attachimg=2][attachimg=3][attachimg=4][attachimg=5]

Question: Any idea how to remove that fingerprint stain here:
[attachimg=2]
I tried wiping it with cloth towel but nothing seemed to worked, not sure why :(

Edit: Senter, what is your email address? I have some questions about the options offered to remedy this plus some problems with my order. never mind, found it!
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: MoebiuS451 on Sat, 27 January 2018, 04:01:40
Already got mine! Will upload some pics soon!

Edit: Added Pics ( https://imgur.com/gallery/Z0rsw )

****, I'm even more upset I missed this. That's beautiful.

On the contrary I am happy to have missed that order, since I should have chosen same options. Brass finition at this price tag is just plainly awfull...
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Post by: Water lee on Sat, 27 January 2018, 04:48:16
Amazing speed. This is the most quick gb I have ever seen. Great work. Senter :thumb:
Can't wait.  :thumb:
By the way. I don't think the brass is so bad. I prefer this more.I am agree with exclusive. Run a gb is not easy.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: beerafffe1 on Sun, 28 January 2018, 09:20:46
Got mine too, my first custom. As a mechanical watch lover, this was the perfect board I simply have to get. Was not sure about the color combo when I ordered but I have to say it is spectacular in person. So spectacular that have decided to build it with Tealios to match the case.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180128/e7c6f0dd3b0687183af1b611509d0227.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180128/ce0e82b932db6ac33bff2eb6c862e137.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180128/a480fc678fb40d4cf2fec13afb29039e.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180128/102e4db22608118330b2a46af25fd6d9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180128/76d8faa575d6ab1f4865183413f926a7.jpg)
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 28 January 2018, 12:51:17
Got mine too, my first custom. As a mechanical watch lover, this was the perfect board I simply have to get. Was not sure about the color combo when I ordered but I have to say it is spectacular in person. So spectacular that have decided to build it with Tealios to match the case.
Show Image
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Damn, the cyan came out nice
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Post by: le_wraith on Sun, 28 January 2018, 15:33:34
Just got mine. I am super disappointed by the execution of this. The brass parts are just a mess and show tons of machining marks. The plate is scratched and stained. This is really not even close to acceptable.
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Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 28 January 2018, 15:39:33
Just got mine. I am super disappointed by the execution of this. The brass parts are just a mess and show tons of machining marks. The plate is scratched and stained. This is really not even close to acceptable.

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(https://photos.app.goo.gl/3nhOtobAzwof2tnC3)

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(https://photos.app.goo.gl/TCa1QklGV33LM4xz2)

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(https://photos.app.goo.gl/7M1uQHUIeeMHK3IM2)

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(https://photos.app.goo.gl/WvrO0ujzKWPzWkT22)


take better pictures of the plate so i can see the blemishes, it looks fine in your picture
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: le_wraith on Sun, 28 January 2018, 15:47:52
Just got mine. I am super disappointed by the execution of this. The brass parts are just a mess and show tons of machining marks. The plate is scratched and stained. This is really not even close to acceptable.

Show Image
(https://photos.app.goo.gl/3nhOtobAzwof2tnC3)

Show Image
(https://photos.app.goo.gl/TCa1QklGV33LM4xz2)

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(https://photos.app.goo.gl/7M1uQHUIeeMHK3IM2)

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(https://photos.app.goo.gl/WvrO0ujzKWPzWkT22)


take better pictures of the plate so i can see the blemishes, it looks fine in your picture

Look at the QWERTY row on the right between what would be the "[" and "]" keys (weird stain) and the space bar row (scratch). Some other stains as well. Honestly keys cover the plate, so the much bigger deal is the brass front and back parts and the TIME logo. Really bad machining marks all over that you can't wipe off. Same issue as with the other guy who posted his black/brass unit above me.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: vtachkov on Sun, 28 January 2018, 18:19:37
Just received mine as well, a black/brass combo. First thing be careful when taking it out of the box; the screws for one of the brass inserts were loose so when I flipped it over right-side-up the brass piece slipped out. Oops, but the piece is ok! The anodizing looks and feels amazing (although this is my first alum case so take that with a grain of salt). No issues with the alum plate, but I am seeing the same issues as those above for the brass. I'll reserve final judgement for after I attempt to clean up the machining marks and the splotches in the brass polish, but overall I am pretty happy with the result

On that note, does anyone have a recipe for cleaning up the brass?

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(https://i.imgur.com/riLmerq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qnam39I.jpg)
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Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: xondat on Sun, 28 January 2018, 18:24:06
Just received mine as well, a black/brass combo. First thing be careful when taking it out of the box; the screws for one of the brass inserts were loose so when I flipped it over right-side-up the brass piece slipped out. Oops, but the piece is ok! The anodizing looks and feels amazing (although this is my first alum case so take that with a grain of salt). No issues with the alum plate, but I am seeing the same issues as those above for the brass. I'll reserve final judgement for after I attempt to clean up the machining marks and the splotches in the brass polish, but overall I am pretty happy with the result

On that note, does anyone have a recipe for cleaning up the brass?

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Unfortunately you won't be able to get rid of the machining marks in the 2nd picture without a harsher abrasive; probably best to keep it as is.

Cleaning wise, just isopropyl alcohol will do fine for pictures 1/3/4.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: senter on Sun, 28 January 2018, 19:05:51
2000 grit sandpaper like this (https://www.amazon.com/Sheets-Sandpaper-Waterproof-Silicon-Carbide/dp/B017GQDX36/) will remove scratches (https://imgur.com/a/htBMb) from the brass parts.

If you don't want to do it by yourself, here are the options: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92349.msg2552663#msg2552663
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Post by: Puddsy on Sun, 28 January 2018, 19:26:44
2000 grit sandpaper like this (https://www.amazon.com/Sheets-Sandpaper-Waterproof-Silicon-Carbide/dp/B017GQDX36/) will remove scratches (https://imgur.com/a/htBMb) from the brass parts.

If you don't want to do it by yourself, here are the options: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92349.msg2552663#msg2552663

should have been done before the boards were shipped, but glad to know there's an easy solution
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: vtachkov on Sun, 28 January 2018, 19:51:28
2000 grit sandpaper like this (https://www.amazon.com/Sheets-Sandpaper-Waterproof-Silicon-Carbide/dp/B017GQDX36/) will remove scratches (https://imgur.com/a/htBMb) from the brass parts.

If you don't want to do it by yourself, here are the options: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92349.msg2552663#msg2552663

Alright I can give that shot plus cleaning with some isopropyl alcohol and post back with some hopefully positive results.

--- Update ---

Ok! Using 91% isopropyl alcohol with a dish washing sponge, I was able to clean most of the splotches left on the brass. Here are my previous 'before' pictures with an 'after' shot. I know it's not perfect but I'm an amateur and we're working with brass here :)
(https://i.imgur.com/qnam39I.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/r87Zjfi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BQ2fA17.jpg)

I'm currently soaking the 2000 grit paper, since every resource I see online says to do it. Most recommend soaking overnight so I'll try it after 15 minutes tonight and if it doesn't work out soak overnight and try again tomorrow.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: laminam on Mon, 29 January 2018, 23:06:34
Got mine, looks great! Really glad I skipped the brass bits.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/b9c7a87207cb3d5929fe9e60e09d050b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/7c84d46c8453d69d92b8168509f68233.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/bca1d898e79238071c76e56d5e21f5aa.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180130/3c86bbb4d1ff417436d6e1bf966ace02.jpg)

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Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: BJW on Mon, 29 January 2018, 23:11:07
For my brass part, rub with toothpaste as they have function of polishing.  :thumb:
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 29 January 2018, 23:14:34
Got mine, looks great! Really glad I skipped the brass bits.
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Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: nurupism on Tue, 30 January 2018, 00:30:18
2000 grit sandpaper like this (https://www.amazon.com/Sheets-Sandpaper-Waterproof-Silicon-Carbide/dp/B017GQDX36/) will remove scratches (https://imgur.com/a/htBMb) from the brass parts.

If you don't want to do it by yourself, here are the options: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92349.msg2552663#msg2552663

Thanks for offering some options for the brass issue, senter. I'm still waiting for my Time TKL to arrive, hopefully it'll be okay with some polish.

In retrospect, I wish the communication for this GB was better. Many buyers would have appreciated learning about the change for the brass finish before the kits were sent out. Perhaps this is something that could be improved for future GBs? Personally I might have wanted a different colored keyboard if I knew that brass wasn't going to work out.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: seblove on Tue, 30 January 2018, 19:29:18
Got mine today and ... woah :eek:
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Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: gt1989 on Tue, 30 January 2018, 19:35:44
Got mine today and ... woah :eek:
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Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Puddsy on Tue, 30 January 2018, 19:36:12
Got mine today and ... woah :eek:
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damn, that's  nice too

looks like all the alu parts turned out great
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: le_wraith on Tue, 30 January 2018, 19:41:07
I hate to be a buzzkill, but the more pics I see of the other boards the angrier I am that black/brass buyers weren't warned about how badly ours would suck and given the option to switch. This just isn't right.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: TerryMathews on Tue, 30 January 2018, 19:53:10
I hate to be a buzzkill, but the more pics I see of the other boards the angrier I am that black/brass buyers weren't warned about how badly ours would suck and given the option to switch. This just isn't right.

I was pretty interested in the black and brass, I'm glad I didn't buy in.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: lshlsh1995 on Wed, 31 January 2018, 09:51:15
I hate to be a buzzkill, but the more pics I see of the other boards the angrier I am that black/brass buyers weren't warned about how badly ours would suck and given the option to switch. This just isn't right.

I was pretty interested in the black and brass, I'm glad I didn't buy in.

I hate to be a buzzkill, but the more pics I see of the other boards the angrier I am that black/brass buyers weren't warned about how badly ours would suck and given the option to switch. This just isn't right.

well, copper is copper. In essence it is better than alluminum. I am thinking if I should try to make the copper parts look aged.
Idk how well google can translate this link: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c.w4002-15833883722.99.473879ecnZ9IFa&id=12625996815
but basically such solution can make copper and brass look like antique. So in the very first pic, the brighter ones turn into the darker ones after being sunk into the solution.
I feel that this will definitely solve the scratch problem, but I am just kind of hesitating because I am just not sure if the color will match to black that well.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: le_wraith on Wed, 31 January 2018, 13:41:18


well, copper is copper. In essence it is better than alluminum. I am thinking if I should try to make the copper parts look aged.
Idk how well google can translate this link: https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c.w4002-15833883722.99.473879ecnZ9IFa&id=12625996815
but basically such solution can make copper and brass look like antique. So in the very first pic, the brighter ones turn into the darker ones after being sunk into the solution.
I feel that this will definitely solve the scratch problem, but I am just kind of hesitating because I am just not sure if the color will match to black that well.
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I get it . Sort of a steampunk vibe. Could work. If you try it please post results! Good luck.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: //gainsborough on Wed, 07 February 2018, 15:14:28
Just finished mine!!  Super happy with it! 

(https://preview.ibb.co/cVzQ3x/IMG_6844.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fxbiqc)

(https://preview.ibb.co/kHj3qc/IMG_6841.jpg) (https://ibb.co/btTk3x)

(https://preview.ibb.co/mzAMbH/IMG_6843.jpg) (https://ibb.co/n1u3qc)

(https://preview.ibb.co/e84gbH/IMG_6847.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bR1SGH)

(https://preview.ibb.co/hKVnGH/IMG_6854.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mRQbAc)
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: fohat.digs on Wed, 07 February 2018, 20:46:36
That is beautiful. Sometimes I wish that I understood how group buys work. They always seem impossibly convoluted and impenetrable.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: //gainsborough on Wed, 07 February 2018, 21:59:30
That is beautiful. Sometimes I wish that I understood how group buys work. They always seem impossibly convoluted and impenetrable.

This was actually my first group buy!  It was pretty straightforward for the most part.  Apparently, it's normal for people to buy-in to a group buy and then wait an insanely long time after placing an order, but this one was fulfilled in like 3 months or so - which was awesome.  So now I'm probably spoiled for future group buys and I'll be pissed when I don't have the product within 3 months, haha.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: nurupism on Thu, 08 February 2018, 00:00:02
Just finished mine!!  Super happy with it! 

That looks pretty great! Is yours with the aluminum or brass weight?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: //gainsborough on Thu, 08 February 2018, 10:51:24
Just finished mine!!  Super happy with it! 

That looks pretty great! Is yours with the aluminum or brass weight?

I got brass on mine.  It's pretty heavy.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Pell99 on Thu, 08 February 2018, 11:22:31
Top case CNC machining has an error.
What should I do?  :(
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Puddsy on Thu, 08 February 2018, 16:09:21
Top case CNC machining has an error.
What should I do?  :(

picture please
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: nurupism on Thu, 08 February 2018, 16:38:28
That looks pretty great! Is yours with the aluminum or brass weight?

I got brass on mine.  It's pretty heavy.

Did you do any polishing for your weights to get the scratches out? I'm still waiting for my kit to arrive, but I'm curious what the other brass owners have done.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Pell99 on Fri, 09 February 2018, 03:58:23
I sent an email to senter. I hope the problem is solved.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: //gainsborough on Fri, 09 February 2018, 11:06:28

Did you do any polishing for your weights to get the scratches out? I'm still waiting for my kit to arrive, but I'm curious what the other brass owners have done.


Didn't do anything to mine.  I'm alright with the worn-down look, personally.  I mainly upgraded to brass for the extra weight - I can always polish the brass at a later time if it starts to bother me at all.

Quote from: Pell99 link=topic=92349.msg2558889#msg2558889date=1518110551
Top case CNC machining has an error.
What should I do?  :(

Do you have a picture?  How bad is it?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Pell99 on Fri, 09 February 2018, 11:30:35

Did you do any polishing for your weights to get the scratches out? I'm still waiting for my kit to arrive, but I'm curious what the other brass owners have done.


Didn't do anything to mine.  I'm alright with the worn-down look, personally.  I mainly upgraded to brass for the extra weight - I can always polish the brass at a later time if it starts to bother me at all.

Quote from: Pell99 link=topic=92349.msg2558889#msg2558889date=1518110551
Top case CNC machining has an error.
What should I do?  :(

Do you have a picture?  How bad is it?

top case overall is bad. I do not know the exact name, cutting finish is not uniform throughout. :(



+I received a positive email. I hope this problem will be solved well.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: vtachkov on Sat, 10 February 2018, 00:08:12
Still working on polishing the brass, need to buy some more sandpaper this weekend. Despite that, overall I'm pretty happy with the result. I don't even see the brass anyways, and the thing feels like a tank. Using JTK WoB with HKP mods until I can get my hands on GMK red Samurai.

(https://i.imgur.com/DqWZKT9.png)
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: senter on Mon, 05 March 2018, 21:33:01
Updates on after-sale service:

Replacements and missing parts reported to me/zFrontier before CNY have all been shipped out by zFrontier. edit: Please contact zFrontier if you need a tracking number.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Vigrith on Mon, 05 March 2018, 22:32:54
Updates on after-sale service:

Replacements and missing parts reported to me/zFrontier before CNY have all been shipped out by zFrontier. edit: Please contact zFrontier if you need a tracking number.

So is this the time (pun, hurrhurr) to pressure you into having a round 2 at some point? Can be in a year or two for all I care, I just want one!  :blank:
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: tanvir175 on Tue, 06 March 2018, 00:41:27
Updates on after-sale service:

Replacements and missing parts reported to me/zFrontier before CNY have all been shipped out by zFrontier. edit: Please contact zFrontier if you need a tracking number.

So is this the time (pun, hurrhurr) to pressure you into having a round 2 at some point? Can be in a year or two for all I care, I just want one!  :blank:

Seconded!
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: vtachkov on Wed, 07 March 2018, 09:59:13
Updates on after-sale service:

Replacements and missing parts reported to me/zFrontier before CNY have all been shipped out by zFrontier. edit: Please contact zFrontier if you need a tracking number.

I received the tracking from DHL. Thanks again Senter for taking care of us :)
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: lovetree on Wed, 07 March 2018, 23:39:40
Still waitng for my Time TKL to be shipped... :'(
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: senter on Thu, 08 March 2018, 07:39:37
Still waitng for my Time TKL to be shipped... :'(

 :eek:

didn't know you are missing parts as well. It should be on the way to you tho.

I always take care of familiar faces first but I didn't know one of those order numbers belongs to you.

Ask zFrontier for the tracking number. Feel free to PM me with any other problems.
Title: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: trikoi00 on Thu, 08 March 2018, 19:00:56
Finished building mine. Sorry for potato pics
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Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Geek Maker on Thu, 08 March 2018, 19:38:39
Finished building mine. Sorry for potato pics
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Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: vtachkov on Sat, 10 March 2018, 12:18:29
I received the replacement brass bars last night. Top bar is the replacement, bottom is the original. There's still a faint line that you can see, but it looks like this time they bead blasted the piece as all of the machining marks are gone. It's practically perfect!  Thank you Senter for your amazing customer service. I can't wait for the Orange 75% :)

(https://imgur.com/PYPR1nj.png)
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: senter on Sat, 10 March 2018, 19:44:55
I received the replacement brass bars last night. Top bar is the replacement, bottom is the original. There's still a faint line that you can see, but it looks like this time they bead blasted the piece as all of the machining marks are gone. It's practically perfect!  Thank you Senter for your amazing customer service. I can't wait for the Orange 75% :)

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Hi vtachkov, actually I really want to thank you for your request of customer service.

1. Thanks for your optimistic. You gave me a positive comment at the start of your email, which encouraged me a lot.
2. Thank for your forgiving. You mentioned the effort you made for fixing the messes we fxxked up. Sometimes we do make mistakes, while we'll try our best to solve them, I really appreciate you were being flexible and would like to cooperate.
3. Thanks for your grateful. We spent a lot of money on the founder editions' gifts, when we can choose a much cheaper one. Most buyers just take it as a sure thing but you expressed your gratitude.

Unfortunately not everyone one was like you. I'm VERY sensitive to people's comments so that I was under a lot of pressure after the "brass parts drama". At least 3 or 4 people keep bad mousing on me, some are buyers some are even not. Why not ask me for solutions before bad mouthing on the brass parts? Where come the negative comments even you're not a part of this group buy? Some other buyers were just rude and troublesome to communicate. They keep messaging me for questions I explained in the post, asking for additional compensations that I can't provide, sending tons of photos on discord for a scratch around screw hole, sending multiple same emails in one day. I was deeply depressed, especially after accidents in real life at the same time. I wasn't even dare to watch Topclack or search on mechkeys because I was afraid of unpleasant comments. There were several times I really want to quite Fox Lab, or even this community. Keyboards is just a hobby to me, not my business.

I'm very grateful for those who encouraged me when I was down, for those good buyers like you. It was my pleasure to communicate with you for solving all your problems. You were a gentleman and I try my best to solve gentlemen's problems. Oh, keep that in mind, old customers always get discount/gifts if they buy again. I'll SPECIALLY take care of your order if you join again in the future.

BTW, here are some [url=https://imgur.com/a/ktiLr]photos[/url] of the brass parts polished by myself. You can compare them with your parts. Have fun with your board.
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Post by: tanvir175 on Sat, 10 March 2018, 21:49:28
I received the replacement brass bars last night. Top bar is the replacement, bottom is the original. There's still a faint line that you can see, but it looks like this time they bead blasted the piece as all of the machining marks are gone. It's practically perfect!  Thank you Senter for your amazing customer service. I can't wait for the Orange 75% :)

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Hi vtachkov, actually I really want to thank you for your request of customer service.

1. Thanks for your optimistic. You gave me a positive comment at the start of your email, which encouraged me a lot.
2. Thank for your forgiving. You mentioned the effort you made for fixing the messes we fxxked up. Sometimes we do make mistakes, while we'll try our best to solve them, I really appreciate you were being flexible and would like to cooperate.
3. Thanks for your grateful. We spent a lot of money on the founder editions' gifts, when we can choose a much cheaper one. Most buyers just take it as a sure thing but you expressed your gratitude.

Unfortunately not everyone one was like you. I'm VERY sensitive to people's comments so that I was under a lot of pressure after the "brass parts drama". At least 3 or 4 people keep bad mousing on me, some are buyers some are even not. Why not ask me for solutions before bad mouthing on the brass parts? Where come the negative comments even you're not a part of this group buy? Some other buyers were just rude and troublesome to communicate. They keep messaging me for questions I explained in the post, asking for additional compensations that I can't provide, sending tons of photos on discord for a scratch around screw hole, sending multiple same emails in one day. I was deeply depressed, especially after accidents in real life at the same time. I wasn't even dare to watch Topclack or search on mechkeys because I was afraid of unpleasant comments. There were several times I really want to quite Fox Lab, or even this community. Keyboards is just a hobby to me, not my business.

I'm very grateful for those who encouraged me when I was down, for those good buyers like you. It was my pleasure to communicate with you for solving all your problems. You were a gentleman and I try my best to solve gentlemen's problems. Oh, keep that in mind, old customers always get discount/gifts if they buy again. I'll SPECIALLY take care of your order if you join again in the future.

BTW, here are some [url=https://imgur.com/a/ktiLr]photos[/url] of the brass parts polished by myself. You can compare them with your parts. Have fun with your board.

Ignore the haters man. **** happens and from what I've read through this thread, you've taken care of any mistakes that were made. While I understand the reason for frustration, people just jump straight to taking their frustrations out on other people, in the worst, because they don't know how to cope with it.
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Post by: trikoi00 on Sat, 10 March 2018, 22:58:48
I received the replacement brass bars last night. Top bar is the replacement, bottom is the original. There's still a faint line that you can see, but it looks like this time they bead blasted the piece as all of the machining marks are gone. It's practically perfect!  Thank you Senter for your amazing customer service. I can't wait for the Orange 75% :)

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/PYPR1nj.png)


Hi vtachkov, actually I really want to thank you for your request of customer service.

1. Thanks for your optimistic. You gave me a positive comment at the start of your email, which encouraged me a lot.
2. Thank for your forgiving. You mentioned the effort you made for fixing the messes we fxxked up. Sometimes we do make mistakes, while we'll try our best to solve them, I really appreciate you were being flexible and would like to cooperate.
3. Thanks for your grateful. We spent a lot of money on the founder editions' gifts, when we can choose a much cheaper one. Most buyers just take it as a sure thing but you expressed your gratitude.

Unfortunately not everyone one was like you. I'm VERY sensitive to people's comments so that I was under a lot of pressure after the "brass parts drama". At least 3 or 4 people keep bad mousing on me, some are buyers some are even not. Why not ask me for solutions before bad mouthing on the brass parts? Where come the negative comments even you're not a part of this group buy? Some other buyers were just rude and troublesome to communicate. They keep messaging me for questions I explained in the post, asking for additional compensations that I can't provide, sending tons of photos on discord for a scratch around screw hole, sending multiple same emails in one day. I was deeply depressed, especially after accidents in real life at the same time. I wasn't even dare to watch Topclack or search on mechkeys because I was afraid of unpleasant comments. There were several times I really want to quite Fox Lab, or even this community. Keyboards is just a hobby to me, not my business.

I'm very grateful for those who encouraged me when I was down, for those good buyers like you. It was my pleasure to communicate with you for solving all your problems. You were a gentleman and I try my best to solve gentlemen's problems. Oh, keep that in mind, old customers always get discount/gifts if they buy again. I'll SPECIALLY take care of your order if you join again in the future.

BTW, here are some [url=https://imgur.com/a/ktiLr]photos[/url] of the brass parts polished by myself. You can compare them with your parts. Have fun with your board.

Ignore the haters man. **** happens and from what I've read through this thread, you've taken care of any mistakes that were made. While I understand the reason for frustration, people just jump straight to taking their frustrations out on other people, in the worst, because they don't know how to cope with it.
Well said Tanvir, I saw the brass replacement parts. That was really some customer aftersales service. Zeals stab were included in founders edition. That a really sweet gesture. Senter, I still hate myself for missing your first GB. Your post reminded me too. Thanks again for the gift. It really brighten my day.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Jimmare on Mon, 21 May 2018, 10:13:59

So is this the time (pun, hurrhurr) to pressure you into having a round 2 at some point? Can be in a year or two for all I care, I just want one!  :blank:

I dont really care if we get the same thing or something in these lines,but damn,makes you feel REALLY bad not being on this GB.

Yo senter,is there any chance you might do something like this in the near future?
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Post by: klennkellon on Wed, 04 July 2018, 07:09:30
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Just finished mine!!  Super happy with it! 

(https://preview.ibb.co/cVzQ3x/IMG_6844.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fxbiqc)


(https://preview.ibb.co/kHj3qc/IMG_6841.jpg) (https://ibb.co/btTk3x)


(https://preview.ibb.co/mzAMbH/IMG_6843.jpg) (https://ibb.co/n1u3qc)


(https://preview.ibb.co/e84gbH/IMG_6847.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bR1SGH)


(https://preview.ibb.co/hKVnGH/IMG_6854.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mRQbAc)
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My babies!
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: le_wraith on Wed, 04 July 2018, 10:39:08
I am still waiting for replacement parts and have no idea when or if  to expect them or how to get them. I have sent Z frontier probably a dozen emails about it and they say they have not been able to get responses from you. Maybe people would badmouth you less if you communicated better and more frequently.
I received the replacement brass bars last night. Top bar is the replacement, bottom is the original. There's still a faint line that you can see, but it looks like this time they bead blasted the piece as all of the machining marks are gone. It's practically perfect!  Thank you Senter for your amazing customer service. I can't wait for the Orange 75% :)

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Hi vtachkov, actually I really want to thank you for your request of customer service.

1. Thanks for your optimistic. You gave me a positive comment at the start of your email, which encouraged me a lot.
2. Thank for your forgiving. You mentioned the effort you made for fixing the messes we fxxked up. Sometimes we do make mistakes, while we'll try our best to solve them, I really appreciate you were being flexible and would like to cooperate.
3. Thanks for your grateful. We spent a lot of money on the founder editions' gifts, when we can choose a much cheaper one. Most buyers just take it as a sure thing but you expressed your gratitude.

Unfortunately not everyone one was like you. I'm VERY sensitive to people's comments so that I was under a lot of pressure after the "brass parts drama". At least 3 or 4 people keep bad mousing on me, some are buyers some are even not. Why not ask me for solutions before bad mouthing on the brass parts? Where come the negative comments even you're not a part of this group buy? Some other buyers were just rude and troublesome to communicate. They keep messaging me for questions I explained in the post, asking for additional compensations that I can't provide, sending tons of photos on discord for a scratch around screw hole, sending multiple same emails in one day. I was deeply depressed, especially after accidents in real life at the same time. I wasn't even dare to watch Topclack or search on mechkeys because I was afraid of unpleasant comments. There were several times I really want to quite Fox Lab, or even this community. Keyboards is just a hobby to me, not my business.

I'm very grateful for those who encouraged me when I was down, for those good buyers like you. It was my pleasure to communicate with you for solving all your problems. You were a gentleman and I try my best to solve gentlemen's problems. Oh, keep that in mind, old customers always get discount/gifts if they buy again. I'll SPECIALLY take care of your order if you join again in the future.

BTW, here are some [url=https://imgur.com/a/ktiLr]photos[/url] of the brass parts polished by myself. You can compare them with your parts. Have fun with your board.

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: alisonica on Wed, 04 July 2018, 18:29:11
Hey I'm waiting on replacement parts too. ;D

I am still waiting for replacement parts and have no idea when or if  to expect them or how to get them. I have sent Z frontier probably a dozen emails about it and they say they have not been able to get responses from you. Maybe people would badmouth you less if you communicated better and more frequently.
I received the replacement brass bars last night. Top bar is the replacement, bottom is the original. There's still a faint line that you can see, but it looks like this time they bead blasted the piece as all of the machining marks are gone. It's practically perfect!  Thank you Senter for your amazing customer service. I can't wait for the Orange 75% :)

Show Image
(https://imgur.com/PYPR1nj.png)


Hi vtachkov, actually I really want to thank you for your request of customer service.

1. Thanks for your optimistic. You gave me a positive comment at the start of your email, which encouraged me a lot.
2. Thank for your forgiving. You mentioned the effort you made for fixing the messes we fxxked up. Sometimes we do make mistakes, while we'll try our best to solve them, I really appreciate you were being flexible and would like to cooperate.
3. Thanks for your grateful. We spent a lot of money on the founder editions' gifts, when we can choose a much cheaper one. Most buyers just take it as a sure thing but you expressed your gratitude.

Unfortunately not everyone one was like you. I'm VERY sensitive to people's comments so that I was under a lot of pressure after the "brass parts drama". At least 3 or 4 people keep bad mousing on me, some are buyers some are even not. Why not ask me for solutions before bad mouthing on the brass parts? Where come the negative comments even you're not a part of this group buy? Some other buyers were just rude and troublesome to communicate. They keep messaging me for questions I explained in the post, asking for additional compensations that I can't provide, sending tons of photos on discord for a scratch around screw hole, sending multiple same emails in one day. I was deeply depressed, especially after accidents in real life at the same time. I wasn't even dare to watch Topclack or search on mechkeys because I was afraid of unpleasant comments. There were several times I really want to quite Fox Lab, or even this community. Keyboards is just a hobby to me, not my business.

I'm very grateful for those who encouraged me when I was down, for those good buyers like you. It was my pleasure to communicate with you for solving all your problems. You were a gentleman and I try my best to solve gentlemen's problems. Oh, keep that in mind, old customers always get discount/gifts if they buy again. I'll SPECIALLY take care of your order if you join again in the future.

BTW, here are some [url=https://imgur.com/a/ktiLr]photos[/url] of the brass parts polished by myself. You can compare them with your parts. Have fun with your board.

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: KaosJ on Sun, 02 September 2018, 11:19:07
Got mine today and ... woah :eek:
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Is your bottom made of alu? Looks perfect  :eek:
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Egobean on Mon, 24 June 2019, 16:02:21
OOooOOO love this color scheme :)
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: DukeEsquire on Mon, 15 June 2020, 23:13:38
I heard that there was a R2 of this board. Any truth to that?
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 15 June 2020, 23:17:59
I heard that there was a R2 of this board. Any truth to that?

if there was i never saw it
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: prangano on Tue, 16 June 2020, 01:54:16
senter mentioned it on the key65 thread and on Instagram comments
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Dennyroxsox on Tue, 16 June 2020, 08:15:34
That being said, I do plan to run a group buy for Time 80% in the near future. The concept is the same but all the details have been improved. It will be a totally different Time. I'll IC it and collect feedbacks soon.

copied here for ya
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: DukeEsquire on Tue, 16 June 2020, 09:20:08
Ah, thanks guys.

My brother is a big watch collector and I'm trying to track down a Time TKL for a gift.
Title: Re: [GB] Time TKL - GB closed
Post by: Angelsin on Wed, 11 November 2020, 13:33:32
Dear buyers in Time TKL group buy,

Some one have already received messages from DHL and should will receive the keyboard in this week.

At this moment I'd like to say thank you all for your support in this group buy.

Time TKL is the second keyboard we developed. It's a little crazy, yet special.
It's so special that not everyone like, but I'm glad I made it happen because you like it and joined the group buy.

Many buyers in Orange TKL group buy also joined this one. I'm so glad that I gain your trust.

Special thanks to zFrontier. They were very professional and patient through all the phases in this group buy and make sure everything goes well.

There are also three unexpected issues in the gb/keyboard.

  • The secret gift for founder editions we intended to give were custom-made desk mats. We changed our mind at last because of lack of time. The final secret gifts are not so special but are pricier than the original one.
  • The brass weights were planned to be electroplated. However, the factory found that the small brass parts will be burnt to black with normal electroplating. We decided to only polish the brass surface lightly and keep the raw brass parts as is. You can compare the electroplated brass (https://imgur.com/7uyBMgf) and raw brass (https://imgur.com/BrsZveo) small parts. If your brass parts are oxidized in the future, the recommended treatment for them are applying a mixture of lemon juice + baking soda. You can also contact me if you’re not satisfied with the brass parts.
  • The design of top case is a little lack of consideration that the assembled plate is pretty difficult to be screwed in the top case. You'll need to find the correct angle to put together the plate and top case, which is tricky. A easy way to solve this problem is to solder switches while the plate is attached to the top case.

At last, we'll be responsible for all possible problems. Feel free to ask me if you get any problems. My email address is runninghack[at]gmail[dot]com. Joining our discord channel (https://discord.gg/Z4Sq6br) is also an easy way to find me.

January 24, 2018
Senter

Can we get another link to the discord that doesn't expire?