I'll buy it. Closest thing to the miniguru yet, and I've been waiting for that for years.
I'll buy it. Closest thing to the miniguru yet, and I've been waiting for that for years.
There was a group buy/sale already but the thread got disappeared.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57909.0 for reference
Soooooo how do I get my hands on one?N/m, found the order page. (http://www.tex-design.com.tw/US_order.html)
Thank you for posting all the photos and for breaking it down the way you did. Awesome overview. :thumb:
Also very sorry I missed out on getting one of these boards. :'(
Seems like its you can still buy it if I am not mistaken.
Soooo how's it working out?
I don't know how to describe, this is just mouse moving with finger press...
more smooth than IBM's, that's only I can tell you clearly.
Only thing that held me back from purchasing this is the lack of programmabilityYes. Hope in next version will add.
Only thing that held me back from purchasing this is the lack of programmabilityYes. Hope in next version will add.
For a modern 60% keyboard, not providing a way to program your own layout is a clear NO-NO. Especially knowing that they are using a very powerful microcontroller that could EASILY support programmability.
Worse, the Fn layout they provide doesn't make sense. It's unusable.
So they won't get my money.
For a modern 60% keyboard, not providing a way to program your own layout is a clear NO-NO. Especially knowing that they are using a very powerful microcontroller that could EASILY support programmability.
Worse, the Fn layout they provide doesn't make sense. It's unusable.
So they won't get my money.
I didn't find any modern 60% in commercial with user programmable feature, even the next new product - ducky mini will be the same.
Currently I only know that poker/pure-pro can re-assign the key map.
But they all can't be programmable like GH60, or other user DIY modules.
Hope those companies can improve this.
Tex cannot get away with an expensive keyboard that is not programmable. It's a serious design flaw, almost inexcusable for a keyboard that already has a powerful microcontroller, made only worse by the fact that great programmable firmwares like Hasu's or Soarer's are available as open source.
This is the only thread here... but lots of people say they received it, and still not review :PI still haven't received mine, but when I do I will do a review! ;D
Can i still order those?
Can i still order those?http://www.tex-design.com.tw/US_order.html
And I received no spare keys for other layouts.Did you ask tex about that? I also expect keys for other layouts. What about keyboard? I think blank keycaps with media print it's no bad, if there was an option I probably would have chosen it.
I received my Yoda today in the UK. But the tops of all my (black) keys are blank, only the fronts (media keys, arrows, etc) are printed on. And I received no spare keys for other layouts. I don't even think it was an option to buy it with blank keys was it? little confused and disappointed right now.
I expected this, https://imgur.com/a/UOOFC#sOKUeJm, but got no spare keys and the tops of all my keys are blank.
huh, on closer inspection it looks like that's how the EU version was supposed to come, kinda strange though.
huh, on closer inspection it looks like that's how the EU version was supposed to come, kinda strange though.
Justin told me yours is EU design, with non printed on top side.
Due to too many kinds of languages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWfQD72nNB8#t=10s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWfQD72nNB8#t=10s)
Third picture reminded me of this.
Having had a bit of play with board, I think it would be better to have the fn layer printed on the top of the keys and the qwerty legends on the front. I'd guess that most owners would be able to touch type, but would struggle to get used to the fn layer - at least at first.
Oh, if you get one with a grey case, it looks great with a burgundy trackpoint cover...
Just make sure to use the dip switches to move the fn key otherwise you won't be able to unset the navigation layer...
Name is the tip of my tongue, but check WASD keyboards.Thanks. Find on wasd. This is "Keycap Stabilizer Insert".
I like the idea of having the trackpoint in that keyboard. I always felt that trackpoints were the best space-saving pointing devices.
Defenetly. Except for gaming and heavily mouse-related apps, trackpoint is a super nice space saving option.Trackpoint very good addition for keyboard. Now I'm using mouse only when work in photo editor or when needed precision movement. But one big disadvantage in this keyboard is lack of horizontal scrolling with trackpoint! It seems keyboard not send signals left/right after pressing middle button, only scrldn/scrlup. Why not add this ability, many apps use X scrolling (browsers, editors, players etc.). Hope developers will hear this!
Passing every input by a single cable is optimal and genius imo.
Defenetly. Except for gaming and heavily mouse-related apps, trackpoint is a super nice space saving option.Trackpoint very good addition for keyboard. Now I'm using mouse only when work in photo editor or when needed precision movement. But one big disadvantage in this keyboard is lack of horizontal scrolling with trackpoint! It seems keyboard not send signals left/right after pressing middle button, only scrldn/scrlup. Why not add this ability, many apps use X scrolling (browsers, editors, players etc.). Hope developers will hear this!
Passing every input by a single cable is optimal and genius imo.
http://www.tex-design.com.tw/US_order.html
http://www.tex-design.com.tw/EU_order.html
I did order about two days ago.
Even with lack of programmability and scroll it's interesting keyboard. At first I thought to take poker or tex beetle, but trackpoint and full aluminium case tip the scale (poker + alum case ~$200+).
Unfortunately now too few reviews and the price is quite high, but i hope keyboard worth the money.
http://www.tex-design.com.tw/US_order.html
http://www.tex-design.com.tw/EU_order.html
I did order about two days ago.
Even with lack of programmability and scroll it's interesting keyboard. At first I thought to take poker or tex beetle, but trackpoint and full aluminium case tip the scale (poker + alum case ~$200+).
Unfortunately now too few reviews and the price is quite high, but i hope keyboard worth the money.
Are we still able to order these boards from this link? I'm sorry if I'm being dense, but I see an order page and talk of a group buy that ended over a month ago. Just don't want to transfer money into someone's PayPal account because of an old HTML page that was never updated
This is listed on Massdrop as a kit. The price seems decent too.
This is listed on Massdrop as a kit. The price seems decent too.
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuyou won't be disappointed :)
just committed to the MD buy... I've been lusting after a mech board with trackpoint for easily 12 years or more, no way I can pass this up.
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuyou won't be disappointed :)
just committed to the MD buy... I've been lusting after a mech board with trackpoint for easily 12 years or more, no way I can pass this up.
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuyou won't be disappointed :)
just committed to the MD buy... I've been lusting after a mech board with trackpoint for easily 12 years or more, no way I can pass this up.
Oh I know I won't be... the fiance? That's a different story (spending > $200 when we have a wedding to plan for)
i notice the right shift you can split.
can someone bridge the pads and tell me if it outputs anything?
yeah, it's an extra switch location, I just wanted to know if it's enabled in the firmware and if so: for what key? I'll bring a paperclip to keycon and see what it does.i notice the right shift you can split.
can someone bridge the pads and tell me if it outputs anything?
Looks like an alternative switch location to me (plus an extra ESC):
(http://s27.postimg.org/3wqnzv0vz/2014_07_10_120355.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/3wqnzv0vz/)
Can anyone speak for the feel and quality of the trackpointer mechanicals on this? Especially from somebody who uses a thinkpad please.
yeah, it's an extra switch location, I just wanted to know if it's enabled in the firmware and if so: for what key? I'll bring a paperclip to keycon and see what it does.i notice the right shift you can split.
can someone bridge the pads and tell me if it outputs anything?
Looks like an alternative switch location to me (plus an extra ESC):
(http://s27.postimg.org/3wqnzv0vz/2014_07_10_120355.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/3wqnzv0vz/)Can anyone speak for the feel and quality of the trackpointer mechanicals on this? Especially from somebody who uses a thinkpad please.
Everyone I've talked to raves about the sprintek trackpoint module. Most people specifically mention how it's better than the ones IBM / Lenovo have used.
Massdrop says they'll bring it to keycon, so I'm sure lots of people will try it there.
yeah, it's an extra switch location, I just wanted to know if it's enabled in the firmware and if so: for what key? I'll bring a paperclip to keycon and see what it does.i notice the right shift you can split.
can someone bridge the pads and tell me if it outputs anything?
Looks like an alternative switch location to me (plus an extra ESC):
(http://s27.postimg.org/3wqnzv0vz/2014_07_10_120355.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/3wqnzv0vz/)
Trying this out at KeyCon.
I like it! It’s a nice size & weight (maybe a bit more than I'd want to carry in my bag all day, but nice and sturdy for a desk), it looks great, and it has a pretty nice trackpoint, about as nice as the ones on recentish thinkpads, I’d say (but take that with a grain of salt: I’m not a heavy trackpoint user). Typing on it now, and it types pretty well, even if MX brown isn’t my favorite switch ever. The trackpad is just the right height to be easy to reach but not in the way of typing. The left and right mouse keys are actually in a great spot to hit with the thumbs.. they’d be very convenient to use for backspace or shift or another modifier key.
All I want to know is: can I swap Caps for Control with this thing?
Has anyone been able to upload their own custom firmware or replace the controller on this keyboard? It would be great to give this keyboard programmable capabilities.
This is listed on Massdrop as a kit. The price seems decent too.
Has anyone been able to upload their own custom firmware or replace the controller on this keyboard? It would be great to give this keyboard programmable capabilities.
Massdrop claims "Firmware Upgrade-able over USB," but has not explained what exactly that means.
Does anyone here know?
If only it was programmable! I'd be allllll over this!
Yes, every geeker wants keyboard support programmable feature,
Sadly till now, there is no company show us such ideal 60% keyboard in mass production.
I can only find customize PCB can have this feature. :(
Ok so everyone agrees. this is a flop. not programmable and insane defaults.
is everyone buying the MD kit so they can try to replace the brains? or just going to use the case and throw the rest away? :)
Looking at the 1st page pics we have 4 boards:
- USB Hub board
- keyboard with its own brains and a 6-pin connector to hub board
- nipple mouse board, 8-pin connector to hub board
- mouse button matrix board, 5-pin connector to hub board
i can't read the main chip labels. and can't imagine what the empy/test pads next to ALT_L are.
Anyway, the only way this is "hackable" is if the chip on the keyboard is just a multiplexer and the actual keyboard brain is on the hub board and the keyboard board is just a dumb matrix. that way we can program it with a intermediate chip on that white cable!
Ok so everyone agrees. this is a flop. not programmable and insane defaults.I don’t think people agree with that at all. I think this is a great product, which would be even better if it were programmable. The defaults seem fine to me. If possible, I would really want to use those mouse buttons for something else, since they’re in a super convenient spot. But that’s hardly a killer flaw.
Found this post on massdrop:
mrvdb:
I got an answer directly from TeX design (through their web form), 3 statements were made:
Slightly reworded quote:
- firmware is not open source
- a new version of the firmware will be made
- the next version will be open source.
Who knows, this question in massdrop group buy for this keyboard and question in context of current Tex Yoda model. Anyway, if controller not locked and we have access to it why not reprogram it. Yoda quite new product, maybe lately we will see some solutions by DIY community for customising key layout .Found this post on massdrop:
mrvdb:
I got an answer directly from TeX design (through their web form), 3 statements were made:
Slightly reworded quote:
- firmware is not open source
- a new version of the firmware will be made
- the next version will be open source.
i'm reading that again and i think it is very misleading... and i'm a sucker...
what i read initially: the firmware is upgradable, and next update we provide of it, will be open source, hence the community will make it programmable in hours.
what it probably really means: this model will be upgrade with our useless, never programmable closed source firmware. but next keyboard models will have open source firmware.
This looks like a neat keyboard. I wonder how the keys that are used as the mouse buttons feel.They have same switches as main keyboard, in my case it's brown switches, I installed double o-rings on mouse keycaps for better feelings, but install black/red switches for mouse buttons should be even better.
I've been having a strange issue with my Yoda for the past couple days: the keys in the lower-right corner (right shift, control, function, windows) are now registering as arrow keys instead. I haven't changed the DIP switch settings since I first received it, and it seemed to happen suddenly (I was typing, tried to use right shift and found that I was moving up a line!) Anyone have any idea what may be the cause of this?You should try fiddling with the DIP switches, as there’s one which does this. (The Yoda that was brought to KeyCon was configured the same way, and I definitely wasn’t a fan.)
It's not DIP switch option, you turned on Arrow mode. You need to press FN+Enter (depending on DIP switch your second FN is tab, caps or the leftmost 1.25, anyway all DIP positions on the first page)I've been having a strange issue with my Yoda for the past couple days: the keys in the lower-right corner (right shift, control, function, windows) are now registering as arrow keys instead. I haven't changed the DIP switch settings since I first received it, and it seemed to happen suddenly (I was typing, tried to use right shift and found that I was moving up a line!) Anyone have any idea what may be the cause of this?You should try fiddling with the DIP switches, as there’s one which does this. (The Yoda that was brought to KeyCon was configured the same way, and I definitely wasn’t a fan.)
Update two pics, my special edition in REDLooks nice.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/gazBTwY.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/gazBTwY.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vcNsGSG.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/vcNsGSG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MYcQ1Vw.jpg)
These keyboards are wet due to I join the ICE bucket challenge, and I forgot to move them away. -_-
Update two pics, my special edition in REDShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/gazBTwY.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/gazBTwY.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/vcNsGSG.jpg]http://i.imgur.com/vcNsGSG.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/MYcQ1Vw.jpg)
These keyboards are wet due to I join the ICE bucket challenge, and I forgot to move them away. -_-
sdiearly -- what case is that on the far right on the last photo?
Is anyone aware if there will be possible to buy this kit again? I really really really want one. Unfortunately I didn't know about the last Massdrop. :(
Is anyone aware if there will be possible to buy this kit again? I really really really want one. Unfortunately I didn't know about the last Massdrop. :(
Hi, JustinIs anyone aware if there will be possible to buy this kit again? I really really really want one. Unfortunately I didn't know about the last Massdrop. :(
Don't mind !! If you have any question , that you can ask me :)
Hi, JustinIs anyone aware if there will be possible to buy this kit again? I really really really want one. Unfortunately I didn't know about the last Massdrop. :(
Don't mind !! If you have any question , that you can ask me :)
why horizontal scrolling not working with pressed middle button? Is it possible to add horizontal scrolling in next firmware update (if it will be)?
i have tried this unit, and frankly, i really dislike the trackpoint, which is the major and only novel feature of the board. the trackpoint unit is hacked together from what looks like a joystick controller with a very loose mechanical pillar. the response of the unit felt completely wrong to me, and, oddly, the pillar and nub are not tightly mechanically tied to the sensor. i don't see this being a viable product at all at the moment.
i have tried this unit, and frankly, i really dislike the trackpoint, which is the major and only novel feature of the board. the trackpoint unit is hacked together from what looks like a joystick controller with a very loose mechanical pillar. the response of the unit felt completely wrong to me, and, oddly, the pillar and nub are not tightly mechanically tied to the sensor. i don't see this being a viable product at all at the moment.If you tried massdrop's at keycon, it probaby felt bad because they broke it. I repaired that unit with superglue but it broke again (didnt bond right to ceramic substrate)
So you're saying it's not like an IBM trackpoint? Is it like the Unicomp trackpoint which moves when you use it?way better than IBM trackpoint, in my opinion.
yah, i tried massdrop's. in that case, other than potential durability issues, disregard my impressionsThis trackpoint very good for all day working and really sturdy, maybe you tried broken joystick. After some manipulation with sensitivity on mac os and linux trackpoint works very good and smooth. On my keyboard joystick rather tight than loose and much better(!) than on modern lenovo thinkpads. I found vendor of this modules and want to try with next custom board.
I've just created an emulation for Miniguru and Tex Yoda on X11.What is difference between this app and autohotkey? With autohotkey is possible to make much better layout than on this keyboards.
I can now pretend my EnduraPro is a TEX Yoda ;-)
https://github.com/frgomes/carpalx
You can also mixin Colemak, Dvorak or other custom layouts as you wish.
I've just created an emulation for Miniguru and Tex Yoda on X11.What is difference between this app and autohotkey? With autohotkey is possible to make much better layout than on this keyboards.
I can now pretend my EnduraPro is a TEX Yoda ;-)
https://github.com/frgomes/carpalx
You can also mixin Colemak, Dvorak or other custom layouts as you wish.
IronAHK and AutoKey. Anyway, choice is good and hope this app works well, so good luck rgomes with your app.I've just created an emulation for Miniguru and Tex Yoda on X11.What is difference between this app and autohotkey? With autohotkey is possible to make much better layout than on this keyboards.
I can now pretend my EnduraPro is a TEX Yoda ;-)
https://github.com/frgomes/carpalx
You can also mixin Colemak, Dvorak or other custom layouts as you wish.
does autohotkey run on linux?
http://ahkscript.org/download/ (looks like no).
rgomes's stuff does. If you notice it helps you navigate the complicated commands for setxkbmap. I like it.
IronAHK and AutoKey. Anyway, choice is good and hope this app works well, so good luck rgomes with your app.I've just created an emulation for Miniguru and Tex Yoda on X11.What is difference between this app and autohotkey? With autohotkey is possible to make much better layout than on this keyboards.
I can now pretend my EnduraPro is a TEX Yoda ;-)
https://github.com/frgomes/carpalx
You can also mixin Colemak, Dvorak or other custom layouts as you wish.
does autohotkey run on linux?
http://ahkscript.org/download/ (looks like no).
rgomes's stuff does. If you notice it helps you navigate the complicated commands for setxkbmap. I like it.
I hope it helps. Cheers :)Thanks for explanation. Will try in near feature.
I guess this configuration (provided by this package) works well with FreeBSD too (which is not technically Linux) since package 'xkb' was initially written for FreeBSD. If it works in FreeBSD, it will possibly work just fine on MacOS too, since MacOS is based on FreeBSD. But I haven't tested any of these things :(
I guess this configuration (provided by this package) works well with FreeBSD too (which is not technically Linux) since package 'xkb' was initially written for FreeBSD. If it works in FreeBSD, it will possibly work just fine on MacOS too, since MacOS is based on FreeBSD. But I haven't tested any of these things :(
Mac OS X doesn't use the X windowing system so this definitely won't work on OS X directly.
IronAHK and AutoKey. Anyway, choice is good and hope this app works well, so good luck rgomes with your app.I've just created an emulation for Miniguru and Tex Yoda on X11.What is difference between this app and autohotkey? With autohotkey is possible to make much better layout than on this keyboards.
I can now pretend my EnduraPro is a TEX Yoda ;-)
https://github.com/frgomes/carpalx
You can also mixin Colemak, Dvorak or other custom layouts as you wish.
does autohotkey run on linux?
http://ahkscript.org/download/ (looks like no).
rgomes's stuff does. If you notice it helps you navigate the complicated commands for setxkbmap. I like it.
This is not technically an "app". It is basically a set of configuration files for X11.
The point is: X11 was designed to handle any kind of keyboard without external assistence (device drivers). It can even emulate a mouse with the keyboard. You just need to configure X11 properly, which is not always trivial.
You don't need AutoKey on Linux, IMHO. I suppose there's no AutoKey for Linux since it is not needed, really.
X11 allows you to redefine Win-F, Win-R and Win-E for example, among others. In Linux you can do whatever you wish in regards to keyboard configuration. You just need to know the scan code associated to a key and that's all.
I guess this configuration (provided by this package) works well with FreeBSD too (which is not technically Linux) since package 'xkb' was initially written for FreeBSD. If it works in FreeBSD, it will possibly work just fine on MacOS too, since MacOS is based on FreeBSD. But I haven't tested any of these things :(
Chances are that working for any flavor of linux, FreeBSD and MacOS is a matter of just adjusting the path where the configuration files are installed. The installation script was tested on Debian and Ubuntu; and it will send an email to me when it find troublerunning on a different distribution. I will contact people trying to install in other distributions so that I will get some help adjusting the script for other distributions. It must be a matter of adding one line for a given distribution and that's it!
I hope it helps. Cheers :)
IronAHK and AutoKey. Anyway, choice is good and hope this app works well, so good luck rgomes with your app.I've just created an emulation for Miniguru and Tex Yoda on X11.What is difference between this app and autohotkey? With autohotkey is possible to make much better layout than on this keyboards.
I can now pretend my EnduraPro is a TEX Yoda ;-)
https://github.com/frgomes/carpalx
You can also mixin Colemak, Dvorak or other custom layouts as you wish.
does autohotkey run on linux?
http://ahkscript.org/download/ (looks like no).
rgomes's stuff does. If you notice it helps you navigate the complicated commands for setxkbmap. I like it.
This is not technically an "app". It is basically a set of configuration files for X11.
The point is: X11 was designed to handle any kind of keyboard without external assistence (device drivers). It can even emulate a mouse with the keyboard. You just need to configure X11 properly, which is not always trivial.
You don't need AutoKey on Linux, IMHO. I suppose there's no AutoKey for Linux since it is not needed, really.
X11 allows you to redefine Win-F, Win-R and Win-E for example, among others. In Linux you can do whatever you wish in regards to keyboard configuration. You just need to know the scan code associated to a key and that's all.
I guess this configuration (provided by this package) works well with FreeBSD too (which is not technically Linux) since package 'xkb' was initially written for FreeBSD. If it works in FreeBSD, it will possibly work just fine on MacOS too, since MacOS is based on FreeBSD. But I haven't tested any of these things :(
Chances are that working for any flavor of linux, FreeBSD and MacOS is a matter of just adjusting the path where the configuration files are installed. The installation script was tested on Debian and Ubuntu; and it will send an email to me when it find troublerunning on a different distribution. I will contact people trying to install in other distributions so that I will get some help adjusting the script for other distributions. It must be a matter of adding one line for a given distribution and that's it!
I hope it helps. Cheers :)
No it does not help.
Linux user here. I have been using linux as my main OS since 2003.
Your point about linux or X11 having been designed to handle any kind of keyboard is true, but only in theory.
In practice, it is very difficult or even impossible to do on linux things that are easily done on the Mac or on Windows.
On a Mac, you use Karabiner (formerly known as KeyRemap4MacBook) to write relatively simple scripts that allow you not only to change key assignments, but also to change the behavior of key combinations, and much more.
On Windows, you have AHK (AutoHotKey). It does the same thing. You write scripts to change the keyboard's behavior. And you can do pretty much anything.
On linux you have... NOTHING.
True, you can change xmodmap and use xkb and fiddle with various system-wide configuration files.
But it's a horrible mess. Most of the time you have to close and re-open your session to test your changes, or even reboot.
Some of your changes will affect X sessions (graphical sessions), other changes will affect the console (outside of the GUI).
Some things are extremely difficult or maybe impossible to do. Doing something simple may require changing several system files.
Just an example: I want Ctrl-Up to do PageUp and Ctrl-Down to do PageDown. The behavior of Up and Down when they are pressed alone must not be changed.
How do you do that in linux?
I have been able to do it with a program called AutoKey. Unfortunately AutoKey is very buggy, and hangs when you press and hold a key for which you have defined a new behavior. So it's not an option.
I have tried to write a C program to do just that, using X11's Xrecord extension, just to discover that you can intercept key presses, but not remove key presses from X11's input queue. Doing so would actually require messing with DBus or patching some system drivers.
Long story short: please don't hype linux or FreeBSD's ability to remap the keyboard, because it's 20 years behind Mac and Windows in this regard.
It is actually easier to hook a microcontroller to your keyboard to remap it than to do it inside the OS (that's how I do it, with Hasu's TMK firmware).
And it's coming from someone who would otherwise advocate in favor of linux.
IronAHK and AutoKey. Anyway, choice is good and hope this app works well, so good luck rgomes with your app.I've just created an emulation for Miniguru and Tex Yoda on X11.What is difference between this app and autohotkey? With autohotkey is possible to make much better layout than on this keyboards.
I can now pretend my EnduraPro is a TEX Yoda ;-)
https://github.com/frgomes/carpalx
You can also mixin Colemak, Dvorak or other custom layouts as you wish.
does autohotkey run on linux?
http://ahkscript.org/download/ (looks like no).
rgomes's stuff does. If you notice it helps you navigate the complicated commands for setxkbmap. I like it.
This is not technically an "app". It is basically a set of configuration files for X11.
The point is: X11 was designed to handle any kind of keyboard without external assistence (device drivers). It can even emulate a mouse with the keyboard. You just need to configure X11 properly, which is not always trivial.
You don't need AutoKey on Linux, IMHO. I suppose there's no AutoKey for Linux since it is not needed, really.
X11 allows you to redefine Win-F, Win-R and Win-E for example, among others. In Linux you can do whatever you wish in regards to keyboard configuration. You just need to know the scan code associated to a key and that's all.
I guess this configuration (provided by this package) works well with FreeBSD too (which is not technically Linux) since package 'xkb' was initially written for FreeBSD. If it works in FreeBSD, it will possibly work just fine on MacOS too, since MacOS is based on FreeBSD. But I haven't tested any of these things :(
Chances are that working for any flavor of linux, FreeBSD and MacOS is a matter of just adjusting the path where the configuration files are installed. The installation script was tested on Debian and Ubuntu; and it will send an email to me when it find troublerunning on a different distribution. I will contact people trying to install in other distributions so that I will get some help adjusting the script for other distributions. It must be a matter of adding one line for a given distribution and that's it!
I hope it helps. Cheers :)
No it does not help.
Linux user here. I have been using linux as my main OS since 2003.
Your point about linux or X11 having been designed to handle any kind of keyboard is true, but only in theory.
In practice, it is very difficult or even impossible to do on linux things that are easily done on the Mac or on Windows.
On a Mac, you use Karabiner (formerly known as KeyRemap4MacBook) to write relatively simple scripts that allow you not only to change key assignments, but also to change the behavior of key combinations, and much more.
On Windows, you have AHK (AutoHotKey). It does the same thing. You write scripts to change the keyboard's behavior. And you can do pretty much anything.
On linux you have... NOTHING.
True, you can change xmodmap and use xkb and fiddle with various system-wide configuration files.
But it's a horrible mess. Most of the time you have to close and re-open your session to test your changes, or even reboot.
Some of your changes will affect X sessions (graphical sessions), other changes will affect the console (outside of the GUI).
Some things are extremely difficult or maybe impossible to do. Doing something simple may require changing several system files.
Just an example: I want Ctrl-Up to do PageUp and Ctrl-Down to do PageDown. The behavior of Up and Down when they are pressed alone must not be changed.
How do you do that in linux?
I have been able to do it with a program called AutoKey. Unfortunately AutoKey is very buggy, and hangs when you press and hold a key for which you have defined a new behavior. So it's not an option.
I have tried to write a C program to do just that, using X11's Xrecord extension, just to discover that you can intercept key presses, but not remove key presses from X11's input queue. Doing so would actually require messing with DBus or patching some system drivers.
Long story short: please don't hype linux or FreeBSD's ability to remap the keyboard, because it's 20 years behind Mac and Windows in this regard.
It is actually easier to hook a microcontroller to your keyboard to remap it than to do it inside the OS (that's how I do it, with Hasu's TMK firmware).
And it's coming from someone who would otherwise advocate in favor of linux.
Depending on what you're trying to do, xbindkeys or sxhkd is much nicer to work with than straight up xmodmap.
So I got a Unicomp with a track nipple - and while it looks great on paper (yay no mouse!) in practice it sucks because there's no scroll wheel. So unless the keyboard has some kind of a scroll wheel in the vicinity of the track nipple it's just a gimmick and you won't use it at all.On yoda we have middle button, no problem with scroll. I planned to buy unicomp for office, but after your comment I look at keyboard picture more carefully and don't see middle button...
Hi, JustinIs anyone aware if there will be possible to buy this kit again? I really really really want one. Unfortunately I didn't know about the last Massdrop. :(
Don't mind !! If you have any question , that you can ask me :)
why horizontal scrolling not working with pressed middle button? Is it possible to add horizontal scrolling in next firmware update (if it will be)?
Sorry , this firmware only vertical scrolling , maybe next firmware :)
You don't need AutoKey on Linux, IMHO. I suppose there's no AutoKey for Linux since it is not needed, really.
You don't need AutoKey on Linux, IMHO. I suppose there's no AutoKey for Linux since it is not needed, really.
true. but i had to implement one thing i do with autoHH easily on a keyboard driver. and that was the PS/2 one... sigh... i still miss that when i use linux:
caps lock down = nothing. set flag.
any other key down = trigger control down, trigger ctrl+key down.
caps lock up = trigger control up.
caps lock up, without any other key press between capslock down = trigger ESC down, delay, ESC up.
so basically it turns caps lock into ESC if pressed and released. or control if pressed with any other key.
is there anyway to do that easily on modern distros?
hmm, I missed this entirely. Looks like I may have finally found a board to use my trackpoint doubleshots on :D
Anyone else interested? I've got spare sets.
It's not used for native apps of course but I believe they had support for it at least until OSX 10.6I guess this configuration (provided by this package) works well with FreeBSD too (which is not technically Linux) since package 'xkb' was initially written for FreeBSD. If it works in FreeBSD, it will possibly work just fine on MacOS too, since MacOS is based on FreeBSD. But I haven't tested any of these things :(
Mac OS X doesn't use the X windowing system so this definitely won't work on OS X directly.
Hi, JustinIs anyone aware if there will be possible to buy this kit again? I really really really want one. Unfortunately I didn't know about the last Massdrop. :(
Don't mind !! If you have any question , that you can ask me :)
why horizontal scrolling not working with pressed middle button? Is it possible to add horizontal scrolling in next firmware update (if it will be)?
Sorry , this firmware only vertical scrolling , maybe next firmware :)
please keep it that way. a mouse only have button 4 and 5, which in software it is meant as vertical scrolling. anything else requires hacks.
also most apps that use horizontal scrolling support Shift+mouse4,5. you can try that, Vitaly.
Wu, any word on that keyboard being programmable? or releasing the source? I confess i bought it only on that expectation :)
hmm, I missed this entirely. Looks like I may have finally found a board to use my trackpoint doubleshots on :DAre they from a desko?
Anyone else interested? I've got spare sets.
TEX Design published red case for X'mas edition:
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If I got one of these and used a different plate, such as GON's Universal 60% Plate, would I be able reprogram the board with my own layout?
If I got one of these and used a different plate, such as GON's Universal 60% Plate, would I be able reprogram the board with my own layout?
My present: sissy YodaShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZCEQmz4.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jhPpNDB.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mr9Q3JQ.jpg)
My present: sissy YodaShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZCEQmz4.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/jhPpNDB.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/mr9Q3JQ.jpg)
Did you re anodize that case or does Tex do a pink case? That thing is gorgeous!
Not sure if I should make a new thread or just zombie this one but Massdrop has this keyboard kit on sale. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/tex-yoda?mode=guest_open
I've crossing my fingers that the firmware is editable given the
Firmware Upgrade-able over USB
and
Customer Defined Memory Functions
in the description.
i have tried this unit, and frankly, i really dislike the trackpoint, which is the major and only novel feature of the board. the trackpoint unit is hacked together from what looks like a joystick controller with a very loose mechanical pillar. the response of the unit felt completely wrong to me, and, oddly, the pillar and nub are not tightly mechanically tied to the sensor. i don't see this being a viable product at all at the moment.
I'm looking at the GB on MD and contemplating if I should get the Greens or Clears.... Is this even a good buy even at lowest drop price ($200) what with the non programmable layers and the trackpoint issues???!?!?!?!!?!No issues with trackpoint after 7 months. Layers not superb, but for me it's not big deal (hope in future to see programmable layout anyway) , vim & IDE's + custom shorcuts do the job. I carry this board at work and home. This kb really worth money (especially with good keycaps).
I'm looking at the GB on MD and contemplating if I should get the Greens or Clears.... Is this even a good buy even at lowest drop price ($200) what with the non programmable layers and the trackpoint issues???!?!?!?!!?!No issues with trackpoint after 7 months. Layers not superb, but for me it's not big deal (hope in future to see programmable layout anyway) , vim & IDE's + custom shorcuts do the job. I carry this board at work and home. This kb really worth money (especially with good keycaps).
I heard from the MD discussions that someone contacted TEX and they said they are releasing a new version of the Yoda with upgraded firmware and programmability later this year
All the useful fn keys are on the left side
i'm using my yoda tex for over three months or so i think.Absolutely disagree, all depends on your style of work, I'm not computer gamer and open links with Vimium (by pressing keys) or with left kb mouse button. For work with graphic or CAD I use mouse, trackpad or wacom, but 70% of the time I work with kb. For me the best FN position is CAPS LOCK, because wasd with arrows in one little movement from home position (and you can turn on caps lock by pressing fn tab).
It is ****.
i'm using my yoda tex for over three months or so i think.Absolutely disagree, all depends on your style of work
It is ****.
i'm using my yoda tex for over three months or so i think.Absolutely disagree, all depends on your style of work
It is ****.
I agree with Vitaly. It really does depend on how you use a kb. I use a Lenovo laptop all day errday and the middle mouse button does not click for new tabs or closes tabs either. I use CTRL+click for that. And I use CTRL+w to close tabs. Simple enough. I don't usually horizontal scroll either. But I decided not to buy it and wait for a new version (whenever that's gonna happen) which they say will have compatibility for those little things.