[url=https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108867.0][img]https://i.imgur.com/ByCWVlS.png[/img][/url]Terrible pricing and kitting. Should have done better tbh.
Well for starters, you don't even get non accented enter and escape keys in the base kit. There is no numpad or iso support in the base kit. If you want a normal base kit (aka fullsize support with iso) you would have to buy the base, numpad and NORDEUK kits, which total to $209. Also if you don't like the orange accents, which I can imagine some people might not, you have to purchase the "blackout" kit for an extra $72, just to get rid of the orange. So yeah, I would say that the base kit is far more expensive than it should be for what you're getting.Terrible pricing and kitting. Should have done better tbh.
I see nothing wrong with the kitting.
Now we need GMK S-125 to compliment this set and Yugo.
Now we need GMK S-125 to compliment this set and Yugo.
Well for starters, you don't even get non accented enter and escape keys in the base kit. There is no numpad or iso support in the base kit. If you want a normal base kit (aka fullsize support with iso) you would have to buy the base, numpad and NORDEUK kits, which total to $209. Also if you don't like the orange accents, which I can imagine some people might not, you have to purchase the "blackout" kit for an extra $72, just to get rid of the orange. So yeah, I would say that the base kit is far more expensive than it should be for what you're getting.Terrible pricing and kitting. Should have done better tbh.
I see nothing wrong with the kitting.
That's ****ing selfish but heyWell for starters, you don't even get non accented enter and escape keys in the base kit. There is no numpad or iso support in the base kit. If you want a normal base kit (aka fullsize support with iso) you would have to buy the base, numpad and NORDEUK kits, which total to $209. Also if you don't like the orange accents, which I can imagine some people might not, you have to purchase the "blackout" kit for an extra $72, just to get rid of the orange. So yeah, I would say that the base kit is far more expensive than it should be for what you're getting.Terrible pricing and kitting. Should have done better tbh.
I see nothing wrong with the kitting.
Personally I fully support the purging the ISO and Numpad from Base Kits.
Well if you only use ANSI then for sure you would support that, but there is more than one layout, ISO is not a rare layout, it's actually popular.Well for starters, you don't even get non accented enter and escape keys in the base kit. There is no numpad or iso support in the base kit. If you want a normal base kit (aka fullsize support with iso) you would have to buy the base, numpad and NORDEUK kits, which total to $209. Also if you don't like the orange accents, which I can imagine some people might not, you have to purchase the "blackout" kit for an extra $72, just to get rid of the orange. So yeah, I would say that the base kit is far more expensive than it should be for what you're getting.Terrible pricing and kitting. Should have done better tbh.
I see nothing wrong with the kitting.
Personally I fully support the purging the ISO and Numpad from Base Kits.
Where were all the ISO lovers when Yugo (The most ISOcentric kit of all times) has been struggling to reach MoQ?
I really love the irony on all meta levels here.
Friendly reminder that keycap design is based on a designers vision and not everyone will be happy with all of the choices, this was not meant to be a GMK Dark rip off so if you wanted completely blacked out base kit, this isn't the GB for you. I think those that really like the set but also want a more "blacked out" theme will be willing to pay for the additional kits.
Where were all the ISO lovers when Yugo (The most ISOcentric kit of all times) has been struggling to reach MoQ?
I really love the irony on all meta levels here.
Exactly how was Yugo ISOcentric, compared to other sets that had an ISO kit?
Well if you only use ANSI then for sure you would support that, but there is more than one layout, ISO is not a rare layout, it's actually popular.Well for starters, you don't even get non accented enter and escape keys in the base kit. There is no numpad or iso support in the base kit. If you want a normal base kit (aka fullsize support with iso) you would have to buy the base, numpad and NORDEUK kits, which total to $209. Also if you don't like the orange accents, which I can imagine some people might not, you have to purchase the "blackout" kit for an extra $72, just to get rid of the orange. So yeah, I would say that the base kit is far more expensive than it should be for what you're getting.Terrible pricing and kitting. Should have done better tbh.
I see nothing wrong with the kitting.
Personally I fully support the purging the ISO and Numpad from Base Kits.
+1 for good kitting!
really appreciate having alice support in the spacebars kit. i don't understand why it seems to be standard practice to only offer alice support in extension kits. for minimal support it's literally just 3 keys max (2 spacebars and a B if you're feeling generous), so paying for a spacebars kit instead of an extension kit makes it a bit more palatable.
also - a loud minority is still a minority. the kitting is a reflection of both the gb runner's vision and their attempt to realize the best pricing on kits for the largest possible audience. complaining about how the kitting seems "selfish" is idiotic since the runner specifically kitted everything to allow for the best chance possible to reach MOQ on each kit offered while also dictating kits/pricing in a way that benefits the majority (not the minority). this is the exact opposite of being "selfish". in fact, penalizing the majority by having them subsidize the cost for additional keys for the minority is "selfish" and straight up dumb. if you're in the minority, you're gonna have to pay extra. that is the reality of the world, not just keycaps.
/rant
Friendly reminder that keycap design is based on a designers vision and not everyone will be happy with all of the choices, this was not meant to be a GMK Dark rip off so if you wanted completely blacked out base kit, this isn't the GB for you. I think those that really like the set but also want a more "blacked out" theme will be willing to pay for the additional kits.
This summarizes things very nicely. Well put.Where were all the ISO lovers when Yugo (The most ISOcentric kit of all times) has been struggling to reach MoQ?
I really love the irony on all meta levels here.
Exactly how was Yugo ISOcentric, compared to other sets that had an ISO kit?
Yugo is an ISO-first (namely, ISO-YU–first) set. There is no ANSI US support in base, just physical ANSI compatibility. That's probably what Fearsome was referring to.
Well if you only use ANSI then for sure you would support that, but there is more than one layout, ISO is not a rare layout, it's actually popular.
Is it though... :/
Is it though... :/It should be nice living in 2015. 2020 was not a great year.
Wow, I just discovered that great looking set. But I hate to say, it feels like the usage as a kind of "dark dolch" set has been intentionally punished or completely ignored.
This way everybody who just wants a black Enter and Esc or the most basic ISO-support has to buy the full Blackout set.
I also dont understand the "<>" key instead of a "|\" for the additional ISO-key next to the small left shift. Because "|\" is what you get there with both ENG(UK) and ENG(US/INTL) layouts.
Any possibility to get a black numpad-enter would also be nice.
All this could be done with small "Blackout Mods plus basic ISO"-Kit. I don't know how such things work but maybe this could still be offered.
I hope this doesn't come across offensive towards the designers choices, but I see the usage as "dark dolch" is pretty obviously suggesting itself here.
The mentioned kit would be a comparably simple way to make a lot of people happy, I think. And maybe it would even be profitable although less Blackout Kits would be sold, when the whole set becomes more attractive this way.
I am sorry I didn't make this suggestions earlier, if this would have made a difference.
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(If there is already a kind of "dark dolch" kit out there or a reason for the "<>"-key please educate, I'm pretty new here.)
UPDATE - DAY ONE
BASE - 233
BLACKOUT - 95
NOVELTIES - 150
EXTENSION - 35
NUMPAD - 46
SPACEBARS - 52
NORDEUK - 31
HAWK Polished - 75
HAWK Matte - 96
BLACKOUT - 40
HORIZON - 73
HUD - 29
ALPHA - 11
BETA - 6
Some vendors might be outdated.
UPDATE - WEEK ONE AND A HALF
BASE - 490
BLACKOUT - 187
NOVELTIES - 269
EXTENSION - 52
NUMPAD - 74
SPACEBARS - 108
NORDEUK - 51
HAWK Polished - 142
HAWK Matte - 209
BLACKOUT - 60
HORIZON - 125
HUD - 70
ALPHA - 20
BETA - 15
Some vendors are outdated.
Where do I purchase this in the US? On Project keyboard site I do not see the kits only deskmats and posters.
Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk
But missing at https://store.projectkeyboard.com/collections/gmk-stealth
Ah - that’s unclear - looks like a poster.
I didn’t raise the issue, just investigated after someone else did. You would expect all GB items on the same page, it’s poor UX, especially with the thumbnail being the poster.
I didn’t raise the issue, just investigated after someone else did. You would expect all GB items on the same page, it’s poor UX, especially with the thumbnail being the poster.
I mean you did share a link which you apparently opened but did not explore at all lmao. But agreed, the link image for the keycap page should probably be... the keycaps. Haha.
But missing at https://store.projectkeyboard.com/collections/gmk-stealth
It's the very first panel.
UPDATE - WEEK THREE
BASE - 662
BLACKOUT - 240
NOVELTIES - 348
EXTENSION - 65
NUMPAD - 95
SPACEBARS - 137
NORDEUK - 57
HAWK Polished - 262
HAWK Matte - 200
BLACKOUT - 75
HORIZON - 152
HUD - 86
ALPHA - 24
BETA - 20
Some vendors are outdated.
ENDGAME - 3 Days left
- ALL KITS WILL BE MADE -
BASE - 839
BLACKOUT - 298
NOVELTIES - 442
EXTENSION - 78
NUMPAD - 117
SPACEBARS - 182
NORDEUK - 63
HAWK Polished - 296
HAWK Matte - 369
BLACKOUT - 95
HORIZON - 186
HUD - 113
ALPHA - 36
BETA - 26
Some vendors are outdated.
MoreENDGAME - 3 Days left
- ALL KITS WILL BE MADE -
BASE - 839
BLACKOUT - 298
NOVELTIES - 442
EXTENSION - 78
NUMPAD - 117
SPACEBARS - 182
NORDEUK - 63
HAWK Polished - 296
HAWK Matte - 369
BLACKOUT - 95
HORIZON - 186
HUD - 113
ALPHA - 36
BETA - 26
Some vendors are outdated.Show Image(https://i.postimg.cc/J7hwpSfz/GMKstealth-Status210113.png)
Now i know, why it's such a fight to get some NorDE/UK Kits... Glad i've got one.
Thank you for your work!MoreENDGAME - 3 Days left
- ALL KITS WILL BE MADE -
BASE - 839
BLACKOUT - 298
NOVELTIES - 442
EXTENSION - 78
NUMPAD - 117
SPACEBARS - 182
NORDEUK - 63
HAWK Polished - 296
HAWK Matte - 369
BLACKOUT - 95
HORIZON - 186
HUD - 113
ALPHA - 36
BETA - 26
Some vendors are outdated.Show Image(https://i.postimg.cc/J7hwpSfz/GMKstealth-Status210113.png)
Will you be disclosing final numbers?
Ticked I missed this, thought I had more time. . guess I'll have to wait for re-sales later this year.
FINAL NUMBERS
BASE - 2138
BLACKOUT - 730
NOVELTIES - 1092
EXTENSION - 168
NUMPAD - 277
SPACEBARS - 425
NORDEUK - 152
HAWK Polished - 968
HAWK Matte - 1110
BLACKOUT - 321
HORIZON - 546
HUD - 356
ALPHA - 90
BETA - 72
Numbers include extras.
Thanks to everyone who took part in the GB. We got the Set to a whooping 2138 Basekits!
I couldn't manage to get one custom cable with the set! :(
Just saw the Lumina GB thread and the disaster that turned out to be. This Reddit post is saying that Greenwald Designs, Lumina, BPOZ Consulting and Project Keyboard are all the same person. Should we be concerned if we ordered from Project Keyboard? https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/buo7mm/warning_regarding_tesletron_of_greenwald_designs/?st=k55o1aoe&sh=cfb61929
edit: nope just involved in a project with Project Keyboard, shouldn't have posted from my phone!
Any chance to get extrras for this kit?
Any updates on the new samples?
Any updates on the new samples?
Nothing yet.
LOLAny updates on the new samples?
Nothing yet.
Is the set still planned to be shipped q4 of this year?
Any updates on the new samples?
Nothing yet.
Is the set still planned to be shipped q4 of this year?
Is there any chance I can get my hands on a Numpad kit?
bruh
bruh
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